#65 - Turning Soft Wood - Grain stiffening methods

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  • I turned this little bowl from some very dry spalted Maple. I show two of the techniques I use for stiffening the fibers of soft wood to help eliminate tear out. Thanks for watching. Please Like, Subscribe and Share.
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  • @albertdawson6814
    @albertdawson6814 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very nice Bill. Hope to see you Wednesday night

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, Albert! Looking forward to it.

  • @jasonrichelhoff4249
    @jasonrichelhoff4249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi billy
    You good job bowl
    Nice job bowl
    You thanks video
    👍👍👍👍👍👍🏅🏅🏅

  • @ronnielloyd4514
    @ronnielloyd4514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw on your back wall a sticker about Sawdust is Man Glitter. I have that tee shirt on right now.

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool, Ronnie! My daughter bought me that sign and it fits... lol.
      Billy

  • @CrossCutCreations
    @CrossCutCreations 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good work, Billy! I really enjoyed the singing and comedy in this video. Keep up the great work.

  • @williamellis8993
    @williamellis8993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a beautiful bowl/piece of art. Well worth the effort. We knew (or guessed) what was going to happen when the dreaded slo-mo started.

  • @carolriley569
    @carolriley569 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful...I love spalted maple!

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, Carol! I have a love for all spalted woods. Such variation in character and you never know what to expect.
      Billy

  • @AlbeTurner
    @AlbeTurner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful! I have Howards Feed 'n Wax but never thought to use it on my turnings. Thanks for the take-along. P.S. Plan B was a great save! Another lesson learned for me.

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I'm glad it was beneficial!

  • @turntbyhi-lo3516
    @turntbyhi-lo3516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ha, c a fumes got to you. That is some beautiful maple. Cant wait to see the other half.

  • @monnersmarket
    @monnersmarket 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is GORGEOUS!!!!

  • @oneshotme
    @oneshotme 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful bowl and great job getting it turned
    Enjoyed and gave a Thumbs Up also

  • @stinger5800
    @stinger5800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well I am glad that didn't knock you on the noggin. lol great vid . thanks. I'm subscribing. I am catching a few pointers from you on the turning as I begin my journey into wood turning.

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Hopefully you'll find some of it useful.
      Billy

  • @Bramsshed1913
    @Bramsshed1913 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Plan B saved the day mate :) love the spalting in that lovely little bowl ,great work Billy!
    Cheers, Bram

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, mate! I really wasn't surprised except that it held as long as it did. LOL
      Billy

  • @OspreyMomma
    @OspreyMomma 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍🤚Billy 💯 I agree BEAUTIFUL Awesome job.
    Fix that Bid House yeah can’t wait to see that one. Thank you for sharing your wonderful talent. ❤️this old rambling man lol have a great week until next time take care from Florida 💕

  • @WaynetheWoodturner
    @WaynetheWoodturner 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it Billy, bloody good save

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, Wayne! Enjoy MC and say hi to the mates for me!
      Billy

    • @WaynetheWoodturner
      @WaynetheWoodturner 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ll do that

  • @Susanjilek1953
    @Susanjilek1953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Billy just watched this and I loved it. After talking to y’all about the spalted Sycamore and the issues I have, I start with the 3408 to help stabilize the wood. Or else I have a who.le lot of wood for the fire pit LOL. Thanks again!.

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, Susan! Great to hear! I hope it helps!
      Billy

  • @ronnielloyd4514
    @ronnielloyd4514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I had a brain.
    You are truly funny and good at what you do.

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, Ronnie! I try.
      Billy

  • @kobiekaasjager4822
    @kobiekaasjager4822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome awesome awesome.

  • @pamelathomas5676
    @pamelathomas5676 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely bowl Billy, I too love the spalting although I haven’t turned any myself yet.

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Pamela! I've found that with many species if you leave logs in any length laying out for about 6 months or so they will spalt naturally. The trick is to process them before it goes too far and they get punky (like I did on many of these pieces of maple).
      Billy

  • @PohlBarnProductions
    @PohlBarnProductions 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice looking little Maple bowl Billy, I would rough turn the bowl before stabilizing it, at least one side anyways, I needs to get that stuff too.

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Doug! Yep, that is the plan. No sense in wasting resin unnecessarily.
      Billy

  • @MartyRaaymakers
    @MartyRaaymakers ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting watching you line up the maple. Not sure what I thought before. Thanks^

    • @MartyRaaymakers
      @MartyRaaymakers ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Learned a whole bunch of things awesome.

    • @MartyRaaymakers
      @MartyRaaymakers ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love how you push the edges of turning. So many take and use perfect. I like quirky a lot.

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it, Marty!

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool!

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  ปีที่แล้ว

      I just can't help myself, Marty! I like doing what others don't... or won't.

  • @ThePapa1947
    @ThePapa1947 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very pretty bowl Billy. Great job on getting the glue block on. I used my cole jaws once to get a lost tenon back on a turning. But you got yours plenty close.
    Not sure I have seen cactus juice but if you need a vacuum chamber I don't have one of those. Not sure I have room for another toy.
    I have thinned down brushing lacquer 50/50 and brushed as much as I could into soft wood and it did help in the sanding.
    Nice work my friend,
    Gary

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Gary! There are also several wood hardeners on the market, like Minwax Wood Hardener, and I have and do use them on occasion. But usually when a spot is just too punky for the two methods I've shown here. And they do a fairly good job. But they can be a bit pricey. Not as pricey as a vacuum chamber, but still. LOL
      Billy

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Billy so could you use the vacuum pump on a lathe? Mine came with the spindle setup.
      That way 1 toy to uses😈

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThePapa1947 Yes, Gary, I bought my vacuum pump years ago for just that purpose. Finally got a vacuum chuck setup last year, but haven't taken the time to set it up. But I will.

  • @daracoulon
    @daracoulon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That bowl with its finish is just fine for a candy dish. M&M’s and most candies are made with shellac. Once it’s cured it food safe as long as you don’t cut into or chip the finish and ingest it.

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, Dara, but the oils I finished the piece with don't actually cure like shellac or oils with dryers in them. Thanks for watching!
      Billy

  • @monnersmarket
    @monnersmarket 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi!! I’m new from Annie’s live tonight!!

  • @dianerhymes1875
    @dianerhymes1875 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Billy I believe we might be kin! Like me you are about as mixed up as a termite in a yoyo! Lol! Love your videos!

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You never know... LOL. Thanks!
      Billy

  • @alanbarbour5185
    @alanbarbour5185 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful piece of spalted timber turned into a piece of simple elegance. What is the term you used describing something in the interior of the bowl after polishing with Howards feed n wax? It sounded like shitoyas? That's a new word on me. Well done sir.

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much, Alan! The word is chatoyance.
      Billy

  • @jrneff9773
    @jrneff9773 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    can to bowl be food safe with tried and true finish

  • @AlForte13
    @AlForte13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Turn Baby Turn !

  • @huwdavies5264
    @huwdavies5264 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Billy, I loved your singing and your sense of humour but more than that, as I've already said on Instagram that bowl is stunning. I have 3 pieces of Spalted Beech which are currently at 25% moisture so I will turn them wet and hope for the best leaving a 10% rim width all the way round to hopefully avoid too much checking and finish them in a few months time. Cheers, Huw

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Huw! Looking forward to seeing them!
      Billy

  • @rickchapman3051
    @rickchapman3051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a truck load of punky spalted maple. Guess I need a tanker truck of cactus juice.

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's certainly on e method, Rick. But here I tried to show one other alternative.
      Billy

    • @JLang-bn3hs
      @JLang-bn3hs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m with Billy. I just use shellac and saturate the piece. I have used Cactus Juice, but it is way too expensive to do much.

  • @charlesball8872
    @charlesball8872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Billy, I’m assuming that is a Powermatic Lathe. I am about to take the plunge to a big lathe! Please give me your overall opinion of the Powermatic, it’s main downside is the cost, as it’s one of the more expensive lathes on the market. I’ve got about a $5K to $6K budget but of course the less I spend on the lathe purchase the more I can spend on the “goodies” that go with it!

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, Charles, it's a Powermatic 3520B. I love it! Bought it new about 15 years ago. I also bought the new Powermatic 2014 when they came out in May. Yes, they are expensive, but well worth it. If I had could justify the additional expense, I'd get a Robust. But they are typically around $3k more. So my advice... if you don't have the money for a Robust or Oneway, buy a Powermatic. I doubt you'll be disappointed. I know I haven't been... with either of them.
      Billy

  • @Leefywood
    @Leefywood 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On punky wood I get a much cleaner cut using a push cut. Maybe just me but pull cuts don’t work as well.

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It didn't seem to matter much on this piece. Thanks for watching!
      Billy

  • @cazzag8254
    @cazzag8254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is CA? What are using to seal the grain?

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      CA is cyanoacrylate... aka super glue. I will sometimes use it to stiffen and harden the fibers of punky (really soft) wood. I also use a diluted shellac for the same purpose. I used shellac to seal the grain.
      Billy

    • @cazzag8254
      @cazzag8254 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you I also found this, which was really helpful. www.docgreenwoodturner.com/adhesives.html

  • @stevenjobbins2600
    @stevenjobbins2600 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Billy I heard it through the grapevine you might have got yourself a vacuum chamber i'm not sure if this is true the source was a little unsure........

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I have a vacuum chamber. Haven't used it yet for stabilizing, but it will happen.
      Billy

  • @ArrowsDIY
    @ArrowsDIY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if i had a brain i would take it out and play with it! i would bounce it off the ceiling! lol 10 Lords a Leaping

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL, Thanks for watching, Favi!
      Billy

  • @JLang-bn3hs
    @JLang-bn3hs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He uses sanding sealer to stiffen his wood.😮 Then he says, “let’s see how it stands up”😂

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching.

  • @allynwasser4566
    @allynwasser4566 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It broke because you were using what I call the Russian roulette chucking method. NEVER let opposing jaws hit directly into end grain. That applies for both a mortice or a tenon.

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, I wasn't paying much attention when I mounted it. Thanks for watching!
      Billy

    • @ahsquared1
      @ahsquared1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great looking bowl Billy, you may want to consider removing your jewelry while turning. It would be very disappointing to all of us to see you get injured. 🖖

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ahsquared1, the silicone ring doesn't worry me. It will rip away easily enough and I bought it for that reason. The gold bracelet will as well and I can't get it back on by myself so it stays. Thank you for your concern!
      Billy

  • @BrendaGsDesigns
    @BrendaGsDesigns 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dropping by with love and channel support my friend. Thumbs up on your awesome vid. Come visit me again soon. xoxo

  • @HandymanJim
    @HandymanJim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Breathing CA will mess your brain up

  • @undeaddread
    @undeaddread 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll tell you what was going on with your speech problem, the fumes from all that CA you applied, I nee dto find some cheaper way of buying CA if this is teh way to treat spalted wood

    • @TheMessyStudio
      @TheMessyStudio  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, CA fumes really get to me. When I'm using it, I always have a fan blowing from behind me and my dust collector on to pull the fumes away from me. But it sometimes isn't enough. A wood hardener is also good at stiffening soft grain, but it can be harder to find. The best price on CA I've found is from Starbond. Another turner has a discount code for it, but I can't remember who at the moment. Maybe Kim Tippin.
      Billy

    • @undeaddread
      @undeaddread 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMessyStudio Thanks Billy, I appreciate the time for your reply getting spalty wood finished has driven me round the bend, I've found another video from robohippy check it out, he's found a roughing gouge used at a high angle gets really clean cuts with punky wood :th-cam.com/video/w5mHMiCrElc/w-d-xo.html
      Big love from Wales :)