Spyderco Paramilitary 2 S45VN & A Rant About Sprint Runs
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- Why I don't buy Sprint Runs and why I got this one.
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What do you want for the scales? 🤣
Never bought a sprint run 🏃♂️, always sold out and/or overpriced
That depends. Some sprints are around for a while. The S35VN Para 3 and PM2 were a sprint and were available for a long time. Same with the M390 Manix 2. I do hate the flash sprints though.
Lol. No. Not always sold out. And often same price as the standard version.
Sprint runs can be cool if the community didn’t jack up prices DAY OF RELEASE!
They haven’t even received it, and are already charging more! Why?!
As usual great vid from yourself though :)
Because idiots buy them
Got to make some extra cash, child support ain't cheep.
those are probably my favorite stock g10 scales I've seen.
the texture looks sick!
Curious. KnifeSteelNerds did extremely thorough testing on S45VN...”S45VN is somewhat of an incremental advance but it does seem to be an upgrade overall vs the earlier S30-series steels. I also think that S45VN is an upgrade over Elmax as it has similar edge retention but somewhat better potential hardness, corrosion resistance, toughness, and a finer carbide structure.”
For the sprint, it’s genius for Spyderco but frustrating to purchase.
Thank you. I was hoping for a review of the steel. Glad I found one in your comment :-).
I’m always happy to watch the sprint run stuff. I’m very rarely one to jump on a sprint run, but always like seeing what all is out there
I wonder if these will be less “chippy” than their s30v steel. I’ve chipped my original pm2 quite a few times just from accidental taps on abrasive surfaces
I got the text from DLT and clicked on it and it was gone already. It hadn't been 30 mins.
And the lanyard cube is sold out!
Glad you're here for us making content, and have the Dad patience to deal with the annoyances associated.
Technically, once you switch the scales, it won’t be a sprint run anymore. White Mountain Knives has a PM2 in S45VN with black G10 with this same texture. And I think it’s just a regular production knife. They’re not in stock yet though.
Stephen Barone that would make sense, although it looks black on my screen. But every phone has different resolutions so maybe that’s all it is.
Edit: yeah it was just my phone lol I looked at other websites and they all look “black” too. I don’t have a computer so I had nothing to compare it to.
Spyderco needs to increase the size of their sprints. But they probably won't. So the madness will continue.
Just got one, brilliant cheers Brian
I picked up that 10V REC exclusive PM2 a while back and I still can't bring myself to cut anything with it. What you said really rings true
just want spyderco to have an online configuration tool where I can pick anything I want
Yes! Like the Benchmade custom shop.
Lol ikr
I like your style more and more ! You are growing confidently .. It’s not about collectors nor sprint run, it’s about being fair and true to your own vision of things. It’s a quality And a value ; ))) Keep pushing !
There will be one showing up in stock at National Knives very soon. I just returned it cuz it had a wonky/squeaky/rough compression lock with a non existent detent. Have at it crazies!
rivers edge cutlery is a fantastic store. they are only about 40 min from me. cant wait to go back in.
Looks pretty cool..Thanks for sharing 😎👍
Great video as always. Totally agree with you! 👏👏👍👍
Great video sir. Dying to try out some S45VN. Cool lanyard tube tool. How much you want for it? (kidding) ;)
Just picked one up today from the spyderco factory outlet in Golden, CO. $168. Sweet knife. I knew I hadn’t seen it before. Didn’t even know it was a sprint run until after I purchased.
Lavenderpants!!! My man. I bought his QC waypoint. Love it. He convinced me by sending me the video of you showing it off saying "Do ittttt. Do itttttt."
Really wanted this and never saw an opportunity to buy.
Haha. I’ve already put my diamond arc scales on another knife! I never ever sell scales. I also found that if I sell a hot sprint/exclusive, they sell waaaaayyyy faster if you price them fairly. Instead of price gouging. Flippers may eventually make a big sale, but I’d rather have a quick sale.
The Manix 2 LW in blurple is the only Spyderco I own! I just can’t get behind most of what they put out, but I do appreciate them as a company!
I only own one after years of putting off getting a spyderco not liking the look of the hole and the price tag, came across the dlt exclusive paramilitary 2 in purple g10 with dlc coated cruwear blade and couldn't say no any longer, my favourite colours in one of my favourite steels and I don't regret it in the slightest, definitely won't be getting rid of this one.
Quite a rant and totally agree with you. 👍
When I've had the opportunity to buy a sprint run or a hard to get knife (Pena X Series Front Flipper Trapper) if I decide to sell it, Ill post it on eBay with a starting price of .99 and let the market determine the price. Works in my favor most of the time, and I don't feel like a creep putting a buy it now price of $500 on a $200 knife.
Sweet pick up... those scales on it are AMAZING. I love green the most lol I will buy when ur ready to sell my guy
I saw that they were gone from DLT the weekend they started rolling out, and I knew I wasn’t gonna find one, But a few days later, I was looking on Knifeworks website, and I saw they had 15 in stock. I logged in so fast to order it, 10 seconds later it was gone. Order went through, a few days later, and it came! I’m so excited! And yes, I hate sprints as well!
I didn't realize you sold the Void, what made you think of selling it? Just out of curiosity, what does a void go for in the secondary market anyways? I'm excited to see s45vn hitting the mainstream. I think with its ability to reach higher hardness, it will perform better as an edc steel.
How about that REC para 3 that being auctioned for $610?
I do agree that it would be more beneficial if Spyderco released semi production runs instead of very limited amounts. They say that the purpose of sprint runs is to test out new steels, but if most people are safe keeping them and reselling them, then what's the point? If more people had their hands on them and actually used them, Spyderco would have more feedback on the product. I managed to get a Native 5 in REX 45 and was considering selling it but I'm really happy that I decided to keep it because now I actually get to use and enjoy it!
I'd like to find a manix2 moonglow! Been looking for a while....
I hunt for the sprints/exclusives I like the rush of maybe not getting one
Awesome knives. I have them. I like exclusives more than sprint runs. Two different beasts. It's never enough knives.
I’m a fan of Sprint Rins and exclusives. I definitely understand why some people don’t like them but me personally I do. Thanks for the video brother
I only own one exclusive paramilitary 2 and I wouldn't sell it no matter what price they were going for, I love it too much lol
Right on with the sprint runs... Thanks for the video 😎👍 love hate as a user... PM2 in M4 and M390. Couldn't bear to use them.
bento box u can buy them all day. even k390 there like 189.95
Yeah I decided just a little while ago to part ways with most of my Spyderco para military twos and threes I’m done chasing the sprint runs it’s gotten ridiculous.And with the money I’m getting I’m buying nice customs and semi custom knives.
I see how it can annoy but i dont think its rude to ask what you want for something. We are all the same and just get excited over stuff. Lol.
That's probably the one I had in my hand and almost bought. And wish I would have cause I think that was the last one they had in stock at REC
Was thinking about buying it (can't carry it anyway, so why not get one that has more collector value and differs from the standard version), but I doubt it'll even become available for a sensible price. the US price of $157 is cheaper than what a regular PM2 goes for here in Europe.
I'm from the UK and ordered my purple g10 and dlc coated cru wear dlt trading exclusive from the US for 180 dollars, had to pay tax when it got here but still didn't end up any more expensive than the cheapest paramilitary 2 I could find anywhere local, some local websites were charging far more even after the tax for much lower models which weren't exclusive rarer models with much worse steel than cruwear so I don't regret it at all.
I havent had much luck with getting a hold of any sprint runs. I really wanted the micarta cruwear Shaman but no luck. I bought a few dealer exclusives the k390 PM2 and tge rosewood rex 45 shaman. I'm happy with those. So I'll just stick with dealer exclusives or production. knives.
This is the first sprint run that I’ve gotten in on. I hate the secondary market markups and gouging.
I have to admit I was wondering if you were going to sell those scales, I wouldn’t have thought it rude to inquire... but I would have asked if you were interested in selling them not “how much for them?” Or “give me those stock scales!”. But I could see how annoying that could get.
The texture looks nice on the scales. I have an original, but never carry it. I will probably sell or trade it.
Sweet knife Slicey! Thoughts on S45 vs S35?
Not enough experience to comment yet.
S45 will open 11,492 amazon packages. S35 will only open 10,937.
I was pissed about this release. I got the text from DLT while I was in the kitchen making coffee. I got excited. Really wanted one. Never tried S45vn and loved the color. But by the time I got to my PC maybe 5 minutes later, they were sold out. I was and still am salty about it.
Welcome to Sprint Runs!!!
I actually ordered a regular para 3 black g10 with s30v and it came in today but it’s s45vn. Did they officially switch over? 🤔
Also I bought it from their official website so it’s no way a fake.
Must be.
@@SliceyDicey I emailed them about it. It’s an official upgrade.
Sooooo...How's the steel? Does it cut well? Does it retain it's edge spectacularly? Is it durable?
Come on man, we need to see the knife in action. Is the 45VN that much better than 35?
I got the para3 s45vn
Thanks for the video. Para military 2 are the best for EDC. Sprint run always sold out and secondary market always overprice. The people buying in to the hype. It great to see Wholesale don’t Price gouge on these sprint run. I got lucky and order my PM2 S45VN from a Canadian knife company couple days ago. I personally love the green Forest handle. If you are looking for this sprint run check out Warrior in wonder Vancouver bc.
If you still have the scales and if you are willing to sell them, I would like to buy them.
I find myself not chasing sprint runs once I have one of the model. Like I have one Para 3, don’t really want another unless it’s something crazy (usually mods or great steel). Another example is I have an m390 PM2 and a modded s30v one. Probably letting the m390 one go.
What's also irritating is that some of the knife sites allow two knives to be purchased on the sprints. All that does is encourage price gouging on the secondary market as people keep one and jack up the price on the other. The sprints I've sold get $25 added to them, and $5 of that is for shipping. On some models I will try and snag one, and have a half-dozen nice ones, but I also carry all my knives as regular EDC users. The one that really got me was the CF Shaman in S90V, which I preordered and paid for, and then was told after the fact by Knifecenter that they weren't available. I agree on that limited production concept, and wish Spyderco would do that, like they did with the PM2's in S35VN. They would actually end up making way more money in the long run.
Supply and demand determine what a knife costs. Free market. I understand the frustration of not getting one when they are released and the mild anger of having to pay more, but that's what it is in all collecting hobbies. Me? I don't buy em so I never feel the pain of missing out.
Rivers Edge is a quality spot... About 15 min away.
I carry and use my PM2 S45VN. If this knife is any good, I am sure it will be common. I have a few sprint runs, but I don’t treat them like investments. I also have people try to buy things I don’t have for sale, like cars. I don’t even care what they might offer. I am more likely to gift things rather than sell them.
If I resale for a hard to get blade I'll bump it just to pay for shipping
Years later....s45vn is now the default pm2 steel lol
I agree sprints are a pain. However, it is easy to get sucked into the hype. I have pretty much given up on them.
There is reason I like sprint runs, specifically from Spyderco. And I am not disagreeing with you or Nick or anybody who disapproves of the false scarcity created by sprint runs. Especially knowing that if Spyderco quadruples its production, they would still sell out I hours. But I can't help but notice how expensive regular production Spydercos are. And their sprint runs and exclusives seem to often be a much higher value. Case in point, last year I got the Smock for $175. This year I got the Smock in 20CV for $175.
some of the sprints appear on bento box. like the one here buts its over$300 yikes!!
@@bigsean2473 - yeah, Bentobox can be hit or miss. I got a Delica in M390 and a Domino in 204P, both for what felt like super deals. Then there is a PM2 in Cru-Wear for $299. Crazy.
I do consider myself a part time knife collector and to your point when I buy sprints and or even one offs I don't use them. Not sure I see the issue of buying knifes that will appreciate in value over time. Have we not been doing that with coins, stamps, comics, paintings, cars, even some firearms. I do think some companies over use the sprint run sales gimmick way too much.....looking at you ZT and Spyderco. I will say this. One reason I really appreciate your site, maybe more then any other, is that fact you don't show knives that no one can get. I have no use to see something to get all excited about only to know I will never have access to buy it. I could be wrong on this point
I can still get all excited watching (viddies of) '68 Firebirds (not as though I've ever even seen one here in Europe, much less believe that I could buy and restore one at my income) 😖
Hey Bryan...that was a very nice rant...lol. You got me kind of revved up to, so I did a nice rant too...see below...hahah.
Come on Bryan...tell us about your new scales...lol. I have to agree with you on the flipping sprint runs. It’s like everything since day one...if there is someone willing to pay for it then there will be someone out there who will take advantage of the situation. So I’m really happy to hear that you have drawn a line in the sand...and like you suggest, it’s not illegal, or you could certainly debate wether it is the wrong thing to do and those who do it will defend it as good business and that somehow if they were smart enough to get in on the sprint run at a fair price, then they DESERVE getting everything they can out of the knife. If you ask me, it’s kind of sleazy. But here is the thing...since your line is drawn in the sand, sometimes that line can become blurred or blown by the winds. These folks are not bad people, they just may have lost site of that line in the sand and end up on the wrong side...
Hahah...I guess that is my rant for what it’s worth.
Can’t you buy a non sprint run PM2 an customize it?!
You totally can, but for now you can't get the S45VN blade steel outside this particular knife
yeah. It’s a two birds one stone thing
Yea I had to get one on a premium on bladeforums... :/
I don’t enjoy sprint runs. I’m looking in to getting a PM2 next month or soon after. Hope they upgrade the base steel sometime soon to S35VN at least. Since there’s a new “standard” and all, who knows? *Shrugs* :)
It’s shocking to me that anything is still produced in S30v anymore, let alone one of the most popular and best-selling models in the knife world. Kind of an outdated steel for such a benchmark blade.
Ah Sprint Runs, we always hate them regardless of where they come from and yet they're always nice. Two of my favorite knives are actually both Sprint Runs from ZT. Hell my para 3 is a sprint run and I love it to death.
I see something as a sprint run and I have a really easy decision : ignore the knife! As a buyer who’s instant reaction to being pressured into buying anything is I don’t need it the hype doesn’t effect me all that much.
I've got no patience for the "collector" aspect of knife enthusiasts. It's fine if that's someone's thing, but it will always strike me as weird.
I would have a hard time swapping out the scales on that one! Green definitely isn't my color either, but that's a good looking folder.
I get why manufacturer does the sprint runs.. definitely creates sales. However, I am with you.. Hate the gouging on the secondary market. For me, I'd buy it because I love the uniqueness factor.. Guess I'm not willing to pay to play though either.
Though.. If you don't own just one or two knives.. You're a collector lol
I buy knives not for their resale value.. But their value to me.. Something about a new knife makes me happy 😃 same as the little pocket folder our granddad's kept in their pocket.. It was enough to handle day to day tasks.. They didn't need fancy steels and a thousand configurations on the handle.. It just worked. So if you own one or two your the average Joe.. If you're like me.. They just put a smile on your face so you buy more than you ever really could ever need or use.
How about a Spyderco Ikuchi vs GM Ace Clyde Battle to the Death?
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I watched this video just after taking apart my pm2 for the first time... "A bit sweary..." To say the least!
. Years ago I bought sprint runs. Back then they didn’t seem as popular as they do now. They didn’t sell out in hours either. Weeks seem to go by and you could still pick up one. Now it’s different gone in a flash and on eBay the next day.
Then the dilemma of not using it for fear of reducing the value. I had a a few sprint runs plus some collectible knives that were stolen in a house theft. I was upset they were gone but also I never got to enjoy using them. I vowed never to buy a knife and not enjoy carrying and cutting with it. If you into collecting and flipping that’s ok but for me I’d rather enjoy what I bought.
That green is beautiful man!! 😆 is not like shiny zombie green
I know I’m late to the comment section, but I totally understand where you are coming from. However I’m one of those people who uses things with no regard for resale. If I buy something I’m using it regardless if it’s 1/1,000,000 or 1/1 and it’s getting covered in grease, dirt, oil, etc.
👍👍👍👍👍
bento box $349.95 ugh talk about getting over but if you just want one there on there
I also hate it when I'm pumping gas and people try to negotiate a sale price on my sweet Dacia Sandero.
Nice Rant! The only thing you left out was "Get off my lawn!"
HA! I've said that unironically several times in my life.
Love yer channel, disagree with ya on this one. I’m 7 minutes in and all your critiques thus far either have to do with high demand for sprint runs (which...making an extra-special version of a standard knife is exactly the point of a sprint run so I don’t really see the point in complaining when people get excited about ‘em), or have more to do with being a “public figure” in the knife community than anything having to do with sprint runs specifically.
HammerHill
Sprint runs have become a double edged sword. On the one hand you have a collector looking for that different delica to add to the 10 other delicas he has. Then we have the flippers. Just buying as many as he can hoping to make a profit on the resale. No interest in collecting.
@@ratride1 I love the hobby and flip knives myself at times when I can't afford to buy other more expensive knives I'd otherwise not be able to afford.way I see it if I was looking for a limited edition knife I really wanted I'd have to pay an asshole tax on it myself sucks has to be that way but is what it is.i do give friends and family deals on knives though.
Dude, dye those amazing scales and make the knife yours... they're too good, I can't put mine down... i have more than a few sprints because I love the idea of different steels with the same geometry (para3 is my preference) I profile them immediately, kills the urge to resale immediately.
Sweet! I’vd been interested in s45 blade steel, share your thoughts how it compares when yiu showcase the new scales! Wondering if it’s a noticeable difference for the better.
As much as I enjoy Purple I also have love for the color Green. I now know you’re a Green hater, though your enological hatred doesn’t affect my excited interest in your content. 🤘🏻
i dont mind sprint runs generally speaking. if you really dont want to get gouged then reddit/bladeforums is a really good place for that. getting emails like that sounds incredibly annoying however
This ain’t a rant. You’re spittin straight facs
IMO it is a good thing if people offer to buy scales or knives when you show them. It shows that many like and want them. I wouldn't consider that a "bad" thing.
I know it can get majorly annoying but it should be expected. Maybe just post "not for sale" on the vids/posts and most will leave you alone. Maybe? LOL
I get annoyed about sprint runs because they usually drop in the middle of the day while I'm at work. I can't sit and hit refresh or time it. I like Spyderco knives but hate their obsession with doing that.
One other thing. You can sell your knives to whomever you want and you owe no one an explanation. Don't feed the whiners by trying.
Great job and congrats on the KI gig. I think I forgot to say that on that video.
I wish companies wouldn't do limited runs of knife designs, blade steels, or blade shapes. Special edition handle color? Fine. "2020 quarantine package opener 1 of 500"? Sure. Just not things that are particularly desirable for USE, but too valuable to use because there won't be any more.
🤔Feel the same about wimmen😲😂🤣
If you dye and mod the way you want and just use it hard, then no one will ask to buy it and you will also loose the urge to sell it. :)
I LIV GREEN.
s45vn is the future
Of course because it’s ten better!
But is it slicey and dicey.....🤔
Good grief man. You should change the title to: "I don't like sprint runs." PM2 in your hands, yet you're not really saying anything? What did you buy it for if you want to tear it apart?
Instead of sprint runs they should just do first production ones like benchmade does.
Weak rant bro.
What do you want for the scales?
😂
$7000
Slicey Dicey See, I knew you’d come around.
Bla Bla Bla what do you want for the scales?!?
I don't even bother with sprint runs, they drop when I'm working and gone in minutes. And spyderco always seems to do colors that I would have to change. I'm like old Slicey, black handle silver blade lol
I relate with the rant, when I list a knife for "sale" on Blade Forums someone always asks if I'm interested in a trade. Most listings for sale will state "for sale only" or "no trades". As well there is a trading forum. Those people annoy me. Not a fan of the green.
But what if we just start bidding on stuff? Because we all know you love that.
I do often auction sprints for charity.
Since when did more choice become a bad thing!? I am 100% in support of knife manufacturers and retailers doing what they need to do to earn a living. If you don't like the sprint run, don't buy it.
$150+ for basic scales and then to make it cooler or unique, you’ve got to spend over $80 scales from somewhere else. I just don’t get it. It’s an old model that looks the same with every iteration.
I’m sure it’ll look sweet afterwards and then I’ll reconsider buying a Spyderco 😂
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