I wasn't clear enough in my comments on repeater programming. If you'll look closely, you'll see that 6.4 is "repeater programing" and appears to be one page long. Remember the size of the pages in question? When you finally get to that page, its only half a page of text, no pictures and it completely skips over tones. Unless you already know what you're doing, this won't get you success. To me, this radio's target price range and audience require much more information and introduction. This radio is targeted at the new-ham or the ham-curious. If you don't know how to program a repeater already, all you'll get with this radio is frustration. Baofeng has been making radios for a long time and this is one of those things (along with filters) that they have had plenty of runway to fix. Thanks for watching.
I was lucky, when I got my Pro Non GPS version I came straight to TH-cam to programme it to a local repeater, though right now have only used it for receiving and not transmitting. Currently in the UK due to do my Ham Radio license in the next 8-12 weeks.
What did you mean about getting another radio that's clean? Surely you didn't mean it was dirty right out of the box, I googled it and got nothing. Sorry new to radios in General just thought i'd ask.
To be fair the UV 5r batteries are cheap and wouldn't be water resistant. Sometimes for upgrades you can't keep backwards compatibility@@AdministrativeReload
the UV-17R's I purchased are also Triband Radios: 2m, 1.25m, and 70cm bands workon this radio. Also the one 16" antenna that came with radio is a triband antenna.
The UV-17 pro apparently has some APRS functionality in it. A bit more pricy, and also transmits on 220 if you want to call less than a watt useful on a handheld.
@@temporarilyoffline Oh I have a Yaesu FT-60, and a Kenwood TOMORROW-V71A I just saw a review on the UV-17 pro a little while ago. Trust me, the 1 Baofeng that I do have rarely transmits. Way too dirty.
$37 for the PRO on Ebay with Nov shipping. This baby xmits everywhere! No need for the FCC restricted UV-17R and it has an advertised 50 kilometers range! Outstanding!
Then they would have to change how they make them and they probably wouldn't be $30 and wouldn't be able to work at all outside of the ham bands which is kinda a selling point for these.
"in bulk" really changes things. Look at the GT-5R or the UV-19 - both clean. These radios have pennies of parts in them at the qtys baofeng will sell them. @@haxwithaxe
Waiting for radio's to support USB-C charging. These docking stations are fine for home. But in the field I would like to charge it via powerbank/Solar.
There are soo many different versions of this radio. Very hard to know the differences. UV-17L UV-17R UV-17H UV-17 Pro nonGPS UV-17 Pro GPS UV-17 Plus UV-17 V2 UV-17 Pro Max I ordered "Pro Max" version but I got the UV-17R.
I really don't know why they do this. It's one reason why I've still not ordered a Baofeng unit. The UV-17 really got my attention. Seems to be a solid radio, nice antenna, good display, but that dirty on transmit stuff needs to be addressed.
There will be better models of the radio that are cleaner as time goes by. I already have another version that is almost 100% clean, where its dirty, you likely won't use it... so progress is happening!
There are a ton of models, if you got the wrong one, return it ASAP and get the one you want. There is also the UV-19 series, same body/shape, different guts.
I just bought a pair of these UB-17R’s on Amazon at the end of January 2024. They both came with drop in charger made for the Uv 17r, it came with two different antennas ( one about 9” long and one about 16” long (both rated for both frequency bands), they had batteries with USB charging capability and the USB charge cables. Instruction manual downloaded from Baofeng has repeater programming instructions. .
Its got some advantages like being able to edit a memory channel on the radio. On the uv5r you have to create a new channel and delete the old one just to turn on a ctcss tone that wasnt stored with the channel. ON the 17 just bring up the channel and turn it on and it stays in the memory.
Looks nice. My question are 1) Does it have a low battery warning? And 2) Does the audio out jack preamp have enough output to actually be useful? Those are my biggest complaints with the UV5R.
I had to run the battery down enough to answer you! It does have a low battery warning. For audio out, It was loud enough for me, but that's probably subjective.
I actually found a use for those earbuds that come with the baofeng radios- you can turn them into microphones for you KX2 or trusdx. And rather easily at that.
The ones I have with UV5Rs I use when hunting moose. My hunting partners also have radios and it allows me to receive without alerting my potentiel pray. Plus I usually keep the radio in my chest pocket with antenna protruding. Having the external mike is useful as I don’t have to pull radio out of my pocket ti transmit.
Apparently the UV17R Pro does have a GPS but there are other basic models that dont include it. I am about to push the button on one a bit cautious however.
Looks like the same UI as the Talkpod radios. Nice to see that they updated and a nice radio design on the outside too. Still a dirty radio. So dirty, dirty, dirty… 73!
Chapter 6 section 6.4 Repeaters Programming? I really don't know but I do know I will save my money and buy a Yaesu if I ever want a HT. I am into the CW now trying to learn how to read and send code. My choice of radios will be QRP-labs. I got my order in. Also maybe use your build videos to build myself one in the future.
Great video! I have a UV17R that I'm about to make a video on as well. The odd part is that mine has a different display, a USB-C battery, a different sounding voice, and is clean on harmonics! It is so frustrating when these radios vary like this.
mine also have much uglier font/display, but its color. I wonder if mine are counterfeit UV-17R i bought a pair (1 is orange and 1 is green) off Amazon... they have a USB-C port in their batteries.
@@olemissjim it is my understanding that baofeng is making both of those radios - not counterfeit, but also not smart to name them the same, put them in the same "body" and give them different features.
The UV-17L isn't a bad radio but would be better with one simple feature. I looked but couldn't find a way to mute the sub-band. Ideally there would be a way to only display/monitor one band instead of both. I get around it by setting the sub-band to a channel/frequency with little use but it would be nice to be able to select one or both. Or, barring that, an option to mute the sub-band the way Yaesu does.
No, if you turn to section 6.5, its about 3 lines long and leaves a lot to be desired for the radio operator that would buy this radio at this price (vs an $800 Kenwood D75 for example.). Baofeng could do a better job on their manuals.
Ok Just for Kicks, Press an Hold the Blue button on the keypad. That's how I made my GPS come on and there was also nothing in my user manual that helped. My UV-17 Pro Chassis looks exactly the same but Firmware has a different look. So after you press and hold the Blue button and get the GPS Screen then short press the Green button to see the directional screen. After that? NO CLUE!!! LOL
Just ordered one, eqv.of 40$ here in Sweden, there seems to be 3 variants of this, one with GPS and the one you have, and one tribander too - i will get the tribander - tnx for the info! - 73 Levi
My trouble with my UV17r is that the screen looks totally different, and programming software couldn't be had at their site, I had to go to miklor. It works great though, and transmits on GMRS . I bought it on Amazon. It seems they would patrol the pirates a little more. I would pay almost twice as much to be sure I was really getting the radio I expected. That said, I don't even know how such a well built radio can be built and shipped at the price point.
There are two official versions of the 17R model - white on black and black on white... and they have slightly different features. Its a problem. As to the price point, they will sell millions of them and have all of the manufacturing in place, in volume they are still making a good profit on these radios.
@@temporarilyoffline mine is a blue screen with white bars at the top and bottom with a light blue background. The labels, everything look official, but I've got to assume it is a knock off since the display is so different and the software from Baofeng doesn't work.
White on Black amzn.to/46fzzvp Black on Blue amzn.to/3R1jTaT (I thought it was black on white, haven't seen it in a while). Both appear to be official to me. Interesting that one doesn't work with the software. Have you tried Chirp? Might be too new to tell yet.
@@temporarilyoffline yep, no chirp. I tried a lot of the one off told on Miklor, and finally found one that worked. There are other YT channels I've seen review blue screen ones like mine. I think one provided the lead on the Miklor site.
Nice new kit! You have way to little attenuation between the radio and tinysa! You are seeing perhaps artifacts of the tinysa. Connected direct to a radio, I transmit 1 watt through 80-90db of attenuation. 5 watts through 90-100! You'll get more reliable results.
Solar flare? I was talking about the HT at 5 watts connected directly to the tinysa through a 40db attenuator. It's enough attenuation to keep the sa from destruction, but not enough for a clean signal
The new radios are pretty cool with features like more saved channels and ability to charge via USB-C but take note all new baofengs may not transmit on the frequencies they are advertised as being able to transmit on because if that frequency isn't legal in your country it will be blocked by the manufacturer to comply with regulations. For example in the UK you won't be able to transmit on or above 480mh.
@temporarilyoffline Might be an interesting video to get your posse together and cold call their technical. Better have Google translate at the ready!
I have a few baofengs that I bought in April 2023. Then, I could hit repeaters miles away but recently couldn’t even use them 100 yards away on simplex. I think something happened.
@@temporarilyoffline A two meter repeater is about 15 miles, and 70cm about 25-30 miles away. Now that I think about it, the radios that could open the repeaters were UV S9. When I tried to talk around my house on simplex I grabbed one S9 and one “Temu” UV5R. I bet that’s the problem. Tomorrow I’ll test them all.
I have said for decades, and this seems the trend for all manufacturers, that with each new model released each year, many come close to a perfect radio design, but intentionally fall short ! It's like, if they would have just done this, or would have done just one more thing, then it would be perfect ! Seems they want to keep something in reserve for the next latest greatest ?
Agreed, IPhone blew their load a few years ago so there’s barely any noticeable difference between models. I still use ‘‘em but they should throw the market for a loop and combine a tazer or stun gun built into the next iPhone. Give the people what they want!😂
@@Prestoux You know that won't happen, as there's always a few out there just waiting to sue ! They would shock themselves, and here they come ! Lol ! If they're going to put a stun gun in a phone, I hope they can set them to give a nice shock to the operator, with each incoming call ! Now that would be a hoot ! And might keep people off their phones ! Lol !
The one thing this radio really has going for it is cost. I have a UV-5R as well as a far more expensive Yaesu FT-5D. I use the Baofeng as a "stunt double" for the Yaesu. If I'm going to be doing something where the radio might get lost or damaged then I take the $25 radio instead of the $400+ radio. In fact my Baofeng has a pretty good scratch on the screen that would bring tears to my eyes on the touch-screen of the Yaesu. On the Baofeng? I just look at it and smile - it has already paid for itself. Is a -17R or -17R Pro enough of an upgrade to the -5R to merit an upgrade?
That is exactly the position I put this in for my world - disposable! Right now I wouldn't upgrade, but I do know of some interesting things coming down the pipeline that might make this radio a whole lotta fun!
@temporarilyoffline So... it wasn't mentioned, and I would like to know if possible: *How many decimal points are actually programmable?* It shows *5* decimal points, but it looked like he was only able to program *3* decimal points. That seems like something worth mentioning, right? For instance, radioreference shows an available frequency of 453.5125 in an area I have been to. Three decimal point programming would not recieve the frequency without the remaining 0.0005. If the last two decimals on the unit's screen are not programmable, I think it really shouldn't show them, and mentioning if those two digits are available or not seems worth mentioning. Please...??
I was confused when you read “32Wh battery”. I mean that’s impossible in that size. If you do the math you realize that the 13 in front of it is part of the number and it should be 13.32Wh 😅
how much cost would it add to make the backlight diffuser a semi transparent mirrored surface so if the ambient light is greater than the backlight, it becomes passively lit, like the old gameboy screens
No radio will be your last radio. Getting a pair of fengs is a great place to start, cheap, lots of support and projects. A great place to get your feet wet. What mode is your local repeater? (FM, all-star, d-star, DMR, fusion?)
@@temporarilyoffline I'm sorry I'm looking into that, I can't answer your question at this time. So far I'm going with the Baofeng GT-5R but am still doing research. I've ordered a book about HAM but I know so little it's not even funny. I do appreciate you taking the time to help me.
be aware that they sell the pro version which is supposed to be "higher" power and upgraded screen. even ordering from ebay and all of their protections for the buyer, I still got sent the regular 17s and not the pro version. after complaining their solution was not to replace them with the correct radio but to send 'some' of my money back. I dont even think ive seen any of their radios that live up to any power rating but was hoping those would have. heck they are probably just better at putting spyware into the circuits.
After several years of rough use my UV-5R is on its last legs, held together with zip ties, all the buttons are bald and the potentiometer doesn't like to work at times. I'm debating getting another uv-5r or just waiting and upgrading
I must have missed your mention of the ability to charge via the C Type port directly into the battery? I didn’t think I skipped over anything, and I do remember wondering if you were going to point out a second charging option other than the desktop charge stand. The ability to charge with a USB/C type cord is a pretty big deal. Thanks for the review! I’m going to order one just for the heck of it. For 28 bucks, I’d be crazy not to own my 6th Baofeng! Right?
@@temporarilyoffline Ohhhhhhhh…..well, that explains it, then. You were probably wondering why I didn’t just scroll back and look for the battery pack info. I didn’t. I’m lazy. I also saw some dude saying there’s now a “UV17R Pro L” that “Works on 220.” I am assuming it also has 440, but I didn’t click on his video. Because as we’ve already established, I’m lazy. I couldn’t find this Pro L unit on Amazon, by the way. I’m sure it’s there. I don’t have to explain why I won’t be looking any further at this time. When will they exhaust the alphabet with new model designations? 73 N7WRN
harmonics?! I understood UV5R's have started leaving the factory with the spurious emissions issue being addressed, albeit it's still a lottery as to whether you get a good one or not.
Hey. Radio noob here, with a noob question. What do you mean by the dirty or clean in the radio signal and since it seems to matter, which clean radio would you suggest to replace this with?
Dirty = The radio transmits "loud" signals on frequencies its not supposed - some of which you aren't legally allowed to transmit on, and some of which might interfere with your local emergency services. My recommendation would depend on quite a few things, but I'm happy to help out. First question is always budget, second question is what digital mode, if any, does your local repeater use?
@@temporarilyoffline In terms of budget, I prefer the lower end. That's why I'm interested in these Baofengs. I'd prefer to spend less than 200 for 2 radios to start with. I'm afraid I don't know about local repeaters. I assume there's an app for maps maybe? I'll take a look. Edit: Possibly FM or echo link
@@sergemarlonThis radio will work for FM - echolink is a free app on your phone, so get on that ASAP. Get your feet wet with some cheap baofengs like this one and start playing. With this radio and the right cable, you can program from the computer, send emails, send digital text messages, beacon weather, etc. Its crazy how much stuff you can do with one of these and the right accessories. After you get started, you'll know better what you're interested in. As for repeaters, there is an app or a website from: www.repeaterbook.com
Baofeng F22. I connected a 2-pole wired microphone. The PTT button of the device was disabled, but the mini microphone does not work. Is there a menu setting?
I don't have that model, I'd double check the settings for anything obvious and try a factory reset... if those two things don't work I'd suspect a broken radio or a broken wired mic... swap one out and see. Good Luck!
You can listen to FM radio, you can listen to weather station, you can monitor local repeaters and see if you are interested in joining. The national calling frequency is 145.52, so you can hangout there as well. Head over to hamstudy.org and see how close you are to passing the technician license requirement. Let me know what you need help with and I'll see if I can make a video for you.
There are 2 rules for FCC Part 97 on 2m, #1 is -40db below the fundamental and #2 is -25uW which when converted to dbm is -16.02dbm, any harmonics need to be below these two numbers. The TinySA isn't "Lab Grade", so take my measurments with that in mind.
@@temporarilyoffline Thanks That explains where the number came from. Now I notice I dont have the same options yours had, so it is time for a firmware upgrade. new learning.
I'll give them points for the massive screen improvement over the UV5R. My old eyes struggle to read my GT5R. I was surprised that you didn't throw the stock antenna in the trash. It must be an upgrade. Okay, I keep mine, but they're all in the bottom of the parts box.
I'd start with what they have already and match them. If they have nothing and you're a licensed ham, this might be a good place to start, but it depends on terrain and other obstacles if you'll connect. If you're not a ham, the GMRS license is the same price, but no test. In both cases, height means might and more watts out are better... But at about $30, it doesn't hurt to test the waters with either the GMRS version or the ham version baofeng offers. After you dive in, you'll quickly learn what more you need and there isn't any easier/cheaper method than to just get started. Have fun!
Ya know, I really should've paid more attention in Recon training when they were going over radio stuff. I recognize a bunch of terms, but honestly have zero idea what any of them mean anymore (getting old). My job was basically to put the damn drone together and hold it while my battle launched it. Everyone else did the cool techy stuff after that while I manned the rifle (I'm dumbing it down a lot... I did more than that, but I consider myself a shooter first and foremost, not a weatherman).
@@temporarilyoffline Well I have. I tested the 1800 mAh battery that comes with the unit (17 Pro GPS) along with 2 (two) 2500 mAh batteries from Baofengs website and a 4800 mAh battery from Amazon. All 4 batteries are within a couple grams of each other. Each of the 4 batteries were tested 3 times each. All tests show that all the batteries were between 1326 and 1362 mAh each. Not the 1800, 2500, and definitely not the 4800 mAh capacities they claim. Typical Chinese propaganda. The 17 Pro GPS has worked great so far and I have no qualms with the unit just the advertised battery capacities. Buyer beware!!!
Are you able to transmit and receive at the same time? E.g. Full duplex, though they call the ability to transmit and receive on different channels (not at the same time) on the UV-5R full duplex.
That is a very good question! Its like being "gluten free" - if it was, they would never shut up about it... but since they are silent, I'd assume its NOT. Now... How do you test it out to prove that? Stay tuned for a video once I figure that you. I like you're thinking!
For the single channel check, I imagine a SA between to radios on the same frequency will give you yhe result you want. It should visually show you the collision occurring. For the radio itself, you would likely need a schematic to see the signal path. If the TX and RX are on the same path, then you will have your answer in visual form, looking to and from mic and speaker. Audibly, you press transmit on both units, and speak in one while listing to the other. That will give you the answer as well. For dual channel duplex, you can put one channel on the weather, and another channel to talk to your buddy. Audibly, if you can talk to your buddy while listing to the weather, you have your answer. In my opinion, I think these units do not share the same path from and to the speaker and mic. But hey, a test is a test. I would never have found out TDMA is a major strategical security problem with out testing things people said could not be done, or that didn't make sense to even try, all because I got a little curious.
@@temporarilyoffline You are welcomed. (Could you tell me if the unit can or can not use the 5 decimal digits? It looked like you could only program 3 decimal digits. That is a pretty big difference.)
I doubt that the manual is in English. It's probably more like Chinenglish. I have a Baufeng UV-5E and I programmed both the UHF and VHF repeaters including the CTSCC tones for the repeaters. I programmed it from the front panel as I don't have a computer cable. Cheers & 73 from K9POW in eastern TN
I am getting on 146.00 (5.1watts) on 220 (4.5 watts) on 440.00 (4.9 watts) in my book it says 5 watts out, so it is close, did not check the sa yet let you know.
I read the product description from the link TO shared and it does use the word waterproof but if you continue reading it actually says IP54, so I think it's fair to say that TO is right and it IS NOT waterproof. It should survive a light sprinkle and maybe being dropped in the snow, but I wouldn't bury it or toss it in a bucket of water.
I don't talk on 2m much, so mine lasts forever sitting in the charging cradle and listening. You can get additional batteries and they have USB-C charging. In my current world, I'm never far away from a charging solution.
UV5R is probably the best standard.. All depends what you want to use it for. Qualsheng is a beast because it can have custom firmware and can be hardware hacked for all bands.
@@temporarilyoffline I have ulefone Armor 26 with walkie talkie, and I am planning to buy Quansheng and Baofeng uv5r just for fun and for modding.. I might use them in future for serious stuff as I like hiking mountain areas or speedboating fjords where there is no cellular coverage and accidents happen every day. Radio is the only way to communicate in wild distant areas like this. This will be a new type of adventure.
@@temporarilyoffline I try never to be bored every day. I wish you and everyone the same. Life can be beautiful if you explore the world. Rubber dingy with 6HP engine can get you in to great speeds on water and low fuel consumption.. It is a cheap way to get a real speed boat, and mountains are free and beautiful. I encourage everyone to travel to a mountain area and hike around wilderness. Remember that this is nature, so dont try to fight it. If you find yourself fighting, go back. It can be very dangerous. Enjoy the nature but stay safe. Never try to fight it, because you will loose to it and you will loose your life. I am very serious about it. There is allot of fun and adventure, but always prepare for the unexpected and stay safe.
@@temporarilyoffline yeah, sorry. Noticed the other comments right after I posted mine. Honestly, learning to fumble through the menus to program my local repeaters (without using chirp) was part of the fun when I got my license a couple years ago. There is a sense of accomplishment in conquering the Baofeng and hitting the repeater for the first time.
I don't think so - you can program the offset, but probably not far enough away. This is also a half duplex radio, so while you could work sats, it would be easier if you had 2 of them.
@@temporarilyoffline This is strange. My old Baofeng UV-B5 can be programed for 2 bands. I dont mind it being half duplex. I have made hundreds of qso's with the LEO sats this way. BTW my Yaesu FT-65E can not do that either.
I orderd 2 of these radios. And I wanted the one that transmitting on 220 mhz. And I specifically told the seller I wanted the 220mhz one. And I only got one out of 2 that transmitts on 220 mhz. So it's a game of chance with these baofeng sellers.
I would expect that they are using the same guts for all their radios that fit this footprint but only turning on certain features or bands depending on the price point. We need to have a handy ham get inside one and figure out the process of making the radio more useable. hint, hint...
100% agree - Baofeng doesn't make the "Radio-On-A-Chip" module that is inside, and I don't think they are packaging it up either. I'd love to play around with the chip on a "dev module". Gotta get in there and see. (This is how the UV-5R was also)
This is a "Direct Conversion" receiver. in HT's the best we're looking for is "Super Heterodyne", they have the best ability to reject strong adjacent signals.
It looks like the 8R series of radios have been discontinued? They were first released in 2015, and no longer appear for sale. I can't say for sure, but I'd guess it's a ruling issue because those different radio services aren't "type accepted" for all of those different services. What you'd be looking for today would be a high quality radio that can have a "mars mod" done to it, and even then, it would probably be dirty on the bands it wasn't designed for.
Another Ham Radio YTuber (Never Without Knowledge) just did a teardown and harmonics review (yesterday) of 3 separate variants of UV17 along with a UV21, he found the "plain" UV17 variant with a 2022-made board and GigoDevice ARM chip was actually giving a pretty clean output, unlike its "newer" affix-laden siblings. The most obvious difference is the LCD display shows a light-blue colored UI on white background instead of the black background. I think the plain UV-17 could become a coveted "clean" cheap ham radio and a good waterproof alternative to the Radioddity GT-5R.
Hi there! I’ve just been super curious if I could work a satellite with a baofeng. I already have a BF F8HP and an arrow antenna. The antenna doesn’t have a duplexer so I have to use 2 radios, one for transmit, and one for receive. I plan on using the F8HP for transmitting. Could I successfully listen on a UV5R or one of these things? Anything else you recommend (transmitter or receiver, I’m looking for advice)? Thanks!
One more thing before I forget. If I physically attach a radio to an arrow antenna (e.g Velcro on the boom) so it’s easier to hold the antenna and listen to the radio at the same time, will it attenuate the signals at all? Thanks again, KC1TOK Zach.
Any two HTs in the setup you mentioned will work, the rest is all skill, percerverance and patience! You got this! (No problem with velcroing the radio)
Check out the digirig: amzn.to/3Ne7Swv and cables amzn.to/40KxvKE and use the UV-5R+Plus model for computer data modes, or the aprs-k1 cable amzn.to/3szlVWi and a cheap android amzn.to/3G6zmQt for APRS, you bet!
Steve, Thanks for your review. I did hear your comments about it being an inexpensive receiver. What was the FCC number you mentioned? Did it earn some FCC certification? I guess I need to reed Part 90 also.
I wasn't clear enough in my comments on repeater programming. If you'll look closely, you'll see that 6.4 is "repeater programing" and appears to be one page long. Remember the size of the pages in question? When you finally get to that page, its only half a page of text, no pictures and it completely skips over tones. Unless you already know what you're doing, this won't get you success.
To me, this radio's target price range and audience require much more information and introduction. This radio is targeted at the new-ham or the ham-curious. If you don't know how to program a repeater already, all you'll get with this radio is frustration. Baofeng has been making radios for a long time and this is one of those things (along with filters) that they have had plenty of runway to fix.
Thanks for watching.
I was lucky, when I got my Pro Non GPS version I came straight to TH-cam to programme it to a local repeater, though right now have only used it for receiving and not transmitting.
Currently in the UK due to do my Ham Radio license in the next 8-12 weeks.
Just imagine if you had a nice guide in the owners manual that had pictures and explanations! @@leejenkinson5521
What did you mean about getting another radio that's clean? Surely you didn't mean it was dirty right out of the box, I googled it and got nothing. Sorry new to radios in General just thought i'd ask.
@@crossfiregaming9541yep, dirty right out of the box. All of the extra markers should be below the blue line in the test.
I guess that's what you get with a sub $20 product 😂😂
My biggest issues with these "upgraded" radios is they lose all the accessories that have been produced for the UV-5R and compatible models.
Yep, it's a brand new generation of stuff to buy. 😪
What accessories are you talking about? Like having extra batteries and chargers?
@@clone1137 Yes, extended batteries and chargers.
To be fair the UV 5r batteries are cheap and wouldn't be water resistant. Sometimes for upgrades you can't keep backwards compatibility@@AdministrativeReload
Glad to see the battery says "battery". Looking forward to when the belt clip says "belt clip".
I know, I had to use my label maker to fix that omission!
this cracked me up! thank you for the belly laugh!
Thanks for watching!
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the UV-17R's I purchased are also Triband Radios: 2m, 1.25m, and 70cm bands workon this radio. Also the one 16" antenna that came with radio is a triband antenna.
Excellent, it's smart to get the tri-bander version!
The UV-17 pro apparently has some APRS functionality in it. A bit more pricy, and also transmits on 220 if you want to call less than a watt useful on a handheld.
One of these days we'll get a good radio.
@@temporarilyoffline Oh I have a Yaesu FT-60, and a Kenwood TOMORROW-V71A I just saw a review on the UV-17 pro a little while ago. Trust me, the 1 Baofeng that I do have rarely transmits. Way too dirty.
$37 for the PRO on Ebay with Nov shipping. This baby xmits everywhere! No need for the FCC restricted UV-17R and it has an advertised 50 kilometers range! Outstanding!
We don't care about dirty, out here in the sticks of rural America ain't nobody gives a flip about a few out of band signals!
think I paid £18 for my UV17 Pro about 2 months ago@@mrradio2187
If only these companies that manufacture radios could afford a Tiny SA to use for testing their product.
Totally agree!
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@RandallRash they can!
Then they would have to change how they make them and they probably wouldn't be $30 and wouldn't be able to work at all outside of the ham bands which is kinda a selling point for these.
"in bulk" really changes things. Look at the GT-5R or the UV-19 - both clean. These radios have pennies of parts in them at the qtys baofeng will sell them. @@haxwithaxe
Waiting for radio's to support USB-C charging. These docking stations are fine for home. But in the field I would like to charge it via powerbank/Solar.
You can get a USB-C Model here: amzn.to/47IgS4R (with 220Mhz too!)
Or a USB-C extra battery here: amzn.to/3uFaQ6w
There are soo many different versions of this radio. Very hard to know the differences.
UV-17L
UV-17R
UV-17H
UV-17 Pro nonGPS
UV-17 Pro GPS
UV-17 Plus
UV-17 V2
UV-17 Pro Max
I ordered "Pro Max" version but I got the UV-17R.
I really don't know why they do this. It's one reason why I've still not ordered a Baofeng unit. The UV-17 really got my attention. Seems to be a solid radio, nice antenna, good display, but that dirty on transmit stuff needs to be addressed.
There will be better models of the radio that are cleaner as time goes by. I already have another version that is almost 100% clean, where its dirty, you likely won't use it... so progress is happening!
There are a ton of models, if you got the wrong one, return it ASAP and get the one you want. There is also the UV-19 series, same body/shape, different guts.
I ordered a uv 17L and got the R. As soon as i get thecrwfund ill throw it in the trash
my goodness your weather guy has the same voice as my weather guy
Weird!
I just bought a pair of these UB-17R’s on Amazon at the end of January 2024. They both came with drop in charger made for the Uv 17r, it came with two different antennas ( one about 9” long and one about 16” long (both rated for both frequency bands), they had batteries with USB charging capability and the USB charge cables. Instruction manual downloaded from Baofeng has repeater programming instructions. .
Sweet!
Its got some advantages like being able to edit a memory channel on the radio. On the uv5r you have to create a new channel and delete the old one just to turn on a ctcss tone that wasnt stored with the channel. ON the 17 just bring up the channel and turn it on and it stays in the memory.
The did make some good refinements for sure. I did a video highlight ling most of them
I have two of these 17's and they show the same spurious harmonics as yours.
I am pretty sure all of them will show the same spurs.
Looks nice. My question are 1) Does it have a low battery warning? And 2) Does the audio out jack preamp have enough output to actually be useful? Those are my biggest complaints with the UV5R.
I had to run the battery down enough to answer you! It does have a low battery warning. For audio out, It was loud enough for me, but that's probably subjective.
@@temporarilyoffline Thank You!
I actually found a use for those earbuds that come with the baofeng radios- you can turn them into microphones for you KX2 or trusdx. And rather easily at that.
Nice!
The ones I have with UV5Rs I use when hunting moose. My hunting partners also have radios and it allows me to receive without alerting my potentiel pray. Plus I usually keep the radio in my chest pocket with antenna protruding. Having the external mike is useful as I don’t have to pull radio out of my pocket ti transmit.
@@andreboudreau6474 that's a good use for that!
@@andreboudreau6474 that's a good use for that!
Apparently the UV17R Pro does have a GPS but there are other basic models that dont include it. I am about to push the button on one a bit cautious however.
Cautious is good. What are you cautious about?
Weather the seller is reputable enough to sell the correct model rather than do a bait and switch.
If its amazon, the seller likely doesn't know its not a toaster... but amazon has a good return policy, so its less of a gamble.@@davidwallace7761
Looks like the same UI as the Talkpod radios. Nice to see that they updated and a nice radio design on the outside too. Still a dirty radio. So dirty, dirty, dirty… 73!
They coulda made something!
Just Got Mine For Christmas 2023**** Great Little Radio. Thanks Take Care.
Hope you have fun with it! Any local repeaters?
Vindicated again! Glad to see no returns to the original problem of the infamous uv-5r... but wait... still spraying at the 1st harmonic?
You can buy a better radio, but one that transmits on multiple bands at once... that's special!
Chapter 6 section 6.4 Repeaters Programming? I really don't know but I do know I will save my money and buy a Yaesu if I ever want a HT. I am into the CW now trying to learn how to read and send code. My choice of radios will be QRP-labs. I got my order in. Also maybe use your build videos to build myself one in the future.
Excellent - the qrp labs radios are a challenge, more like a puzzle. They are designed to be mentally stimulating.
Great video! I have a UV17R that I'm about to make a video on as well. The odd part is that mine has a different display, a USB-C battery, a different sounding voice, and is clean on harmonics! It is so frustrating when these radios vary like this.
You have the black on white model? Yep, totally agree that they should make 1 or 2 good products instead of many bad ones.
mine also have much uglier font/display, but its color. I wonder if mine are counterfeit UV-17R i bought a pair (1 is orange and 1 is green) off Amazon... they have a USB-C port in their batteries.
@@olemissjim it is my understanding that baofeng is making both of those radios - not counterfeit, but also not smart to name them the same, put them in the same "body" and give them different features.
The UV-17L isn't a bad radio but would be better with one simple feature. I looked but couldn't find a way to mute the sub-band. Ideally there would be a way to only display/monitor one band instead of both. I get around it by setting the sub-band to a channel/frequency with little use but it would be nice to be able to select one or both. Or, barring that, an option to mute the sub-band the way Yaesu does.
Agreed, That would be great!
Let Baofeng know as it can be added via firmware update.
Turn tdr off
Thanks @@jeffworkman1982 @jmacbops TDR will make the radio only listen to one VFO at a time, not "dual watch"
Wow. That sure is a pretty 'Feng
Sure is!
Aaaahhh Steve....Index 6.5 says 'REPEATER PROGRAMMING' ...isn't that what you were asking for at 1:08 ?
No, if you turn to section 6.5, its about 3 lines long and leaves a lot to be desired for the radio operator that would buy this radio at this price (vs an $800 Kenwood D75 for example.). Baofeng could do a better job on their manuals.
Ok Just for Kicks, Press an Hold the Blue button on the keypad. That's how I made my GPS come on and there was also nothing in my user manual that helped. My UV-17 Pro Chassis looks exactly the same but Firmware has a different look. So after you press and hold the Blue button and get the GPS Screen then short press the Green button to see the directional screen. After that? NO CLUE!!! LOL
Long press blue button is "search uhf" and then none of the other buttons work. Re-press the blue button and it cancels the search.
@@temporarilyoffline Well Crap! It's not for a lack of Trying 🙂
@@HamRadioCrusader not on our part anyway! Thanks for looking out brother!
Just ordered one, eqv.of 40$ here in Sweden, there seems to be 3 variants of this, one with GPS and the one you have, and one tribander too - i will get the tribander - tnx for the info! - 73 Levi
Make that 4 🤣 - I just got a uv-17r plus that has a bigger battery and expanded RX coverage
I've seen those menus before 😏 good work TO!
Yep, the new normal!
0:58 in the video - Chapter 6 Advanced Features 6.4 Repeater Programming
See pinned comment.
I have that one and the 17pro gps. Gps is only on the 17pro gps. They use the same mold. Neat radio
Does the 17pro add APRS as well?
@@temporarilyoffline I think no
My trouble with my UV17r is that the screen looks totally different, and programming software couldn't be had at their site, I had to go to miklor. It works great though, and transmits on GMRS . I bought it on Amazon. It seems they would patrol the pirates a little more. I would pay almost twice as much to be sure I was really getting the radio I expected. That said, I don't even know how such a well built radio can be built and shipped at the price point.
There are two official versions of the 17R model - white on black and black on white... and they have slightly different features. Its a problem. As to the price point, they will sell millions of them and have all of the manufacturing in place, in volume they are still making a good profit on these radios.
@@temporarilyoffline mine is a blue screen with white bars at the top and bottom with a light blue background. The labels, everything look official, but I've got to assume it is a knock off since the display is so different and the software from Baofeng doesn't work.
White on Black amzn.to/46fzzvp
Black on Blue amzn.to/3R1jTaT (I thought it was black on white, haven't seen it in a while). Both appear to be official to me. Interesting that one doesn't work with the software. Have you tried Chirp? Might be too new to tell yet.
@@temporarilyoffline yep, no chirp. I tried a lot of the one off told on Miklor, and finally found one that worked. There are other YT channels I've seen review blue screen ones like mine. I think one provided the lead on the Miklor site.
Can that one be firmware upgraded to hear SSB? I am drumming for an Nuggets episode on how to do that, and how well it works.
I don't know, this is a pretty new chip and the hacking hasn't begun yet.
Nice new kit! You have way to little attenuation between the radio and tinysa! You are seeing perhaps artifacts of the tinysa. Connected direct to a radio, I transmit 1 watt through 80-90db of attenuation. 5 watts through 90-100! You'll get more reliable results.
Thanks for the tips!
90db? what are you trying to attenuate man, a marching band? I seriously doubt a tiny SA can hear a solar flare at -90db.
Solar flare? I was talking about the HT at 5 watts connected directly to the tinysa through a 40db attenuator. It's enough attenuation to keep the sa from destruction, but not enough for a clean signal
The new radios are pretty cool with features like more saved channels and ability to charge via USB-C but take note all new baofengs may not transmit on the frequencies they are advertised as being able to transmit on because if that frequency isn't legal in your country it will be blocked by the manufacturer to comply with regulations. For example in the UK you won't be able to transmit on or above 480mh.
Good point!
You can easily unlock them to get full band tx/rx
@@jeffworkman1982 what is the unlock procedure for the UV-17R
I already have two Boofwangs, only to keep in the car. I have the S9 and the 9R.
Why is that so dirty?🤯🤷♂️
Because for some reason manufactures don't watch our videos to see what we think is important.
@temporarilyoffline Might be an interesting video to get your posse together and cold call their technical. Better have Google translate at the ready!
I have a knock-off Baofeng BF-18H (same chassis) but the battery came with USB-C charging. No reason this one shouldn’t have that either.
It's an option for this radio too.
I have a few baofengs that I bought in April 2023. Then, I could hit repeaters miles away but recently couldn’t even use them 100 yards away on simplex. I think something happened.
That's interesting, I wonder what happened? Do you know where the towers are?
@@temporarilyoffline A two meter repeater is about 15 miles, and 70cm about 25-30 miles away. Now that I think about it, the radios that could open the repeaters were UV S9. When I tried to talk around my house on simplex I grabbed one S9 and one “Temu” UV5R. I bet that’s the problem. Tomorrow I’ll test them all.
@@thomashardy9994 good luck!
I have said for decades, and this seems the trend for all manufacturers, that with each new model released each year, many come close to a perfect radio design, but intentionally fall short !
It's like, if they would have just done this, or would have done just one more thing, then it would be perfect !
Seems they want to keep something in reserve for the next latest greatest ?
💯 agree
Agreed, IPhone blew their load a few years ago so there’s barely any noticeable difference between models. I still use ‘‘em but they should throw the market for a loop and combine a tazer or stun gun built into the next iPhone. Give the people what they want!😂
@@Prestoux
You know that won't happen, as there's always a few out there just waiting to sue !
They would shock themselves, and here they come !
Lol !
If they're going to put a stun gun in a phone, I hope they can set them to give a nice shock to the operator, with each incoming call !
Now that would be a hoot !
And might keep people off their phones !
Lol !
CORRECTION 0:42 "6.3 Manual Programming" and "6.4 Repeaters Programming" on pages 22 and 24
Thanks!
I have a few uv 5r’s and a GT5 (uv5r knock off) I actually really like all of them. Mostly use them as scanners tho
Not a bad price for a scanner... Even if it's slower than a uniden, it's very much cheaper.
The one thing this radio really has going for it is cost. I have a UV-5R as well as a far more expensive Yaesu FT-5D. I use the Baofeng as a "stunt double" for the Yaesu. If I'm going to be doing something where the radio might get lost or damaged then I take the $25 radio instead of the $400+ radio. In fact my Baofeng has a pretty good scratch on the screen that would bring tears to my eyes on the touch-screen of the Yaesu. On the Baofeng? I just look at it and smile - it has already paid for itself.
Is a -17R or -17R Pro enough of an upgrade to the -5R to merit an upgrade?
That is exactly the position I put this in for my world - disposable! Right now I wouldn't upgrade, but I do know of some interesting things coming down the pipeline that might make this radio a whole lotta fun!
@@temporarilyofflineThanks! I'll "stay tuned" as it were. (yes, bad pun intended...)
I need one of those small hard cases for my digirig, cables and HT. I will check out the video. Thanks.
Awesome!
I have one and just got the TID Radio h8 gen2. Nuch nicer than the Gen1
Excellent!
@temporarilyoffline
So... it wasn't mentioned, and I would like to know if possible: *How many decimal points are actually programmable?*
It shows *5* decimal points, but it looked like he was only able to program *3* decimal points. That seems like something worth mentioning, right?
For instance, radioreference shows an available frequency of 453.5125 in an area I have been to. Three decimal point programming would not recieve the frequency without the remaining 0.0005. If the last two decimals on the unit's screen are not programmable, I think it really shouldn't show them, and mentioning if those two digits are available or not seems worth mentioning.
Please...??
That's a great idea!
Try the harmonics with the antenna attached.
They are probably better, but that's not how the FCC specifies the test. Would make an interesting video, it's on the list.
I was confused when you read “32Wh battery”. I mean that’s impossible in that size. If you do the math you realize that the 13 in front of it is part of the number and it should be 13.32Wh 😅
Yep, Good Catch.
how much cost would it add to make the backlight diffuser a semi transparent mirrored surface so if the ambient light is greater than the backlight, it becomes passively lit, like the old gameboy screens
That's a good idea!
Which Baofeng would you recommend to someone that knows nothing about HAM but wants the best range possible?
No radio will be your last radio. Getting a pair of fengs is a great place to start, cheap, lots of support and projects. A great place to get your feet wet. What mode is your local repeater? (FM, all-star, d-star, DMR, fusion?)
@@temporarilyoffline I'm sorry I'm looking into that, I can't answer your question at this time. So far I'm going with the Baofeng GT-5R but am still doing research. I've ordered a book about HAM but I know so little it's not even funny. I do appreciate you taking the time to help me.
@@mattlove2110 no problem at all. Just get your feet wet and keep learning!
not yet available on amazon uk
Thanks! They probably haven't shipped any to UK amazon centers yet.
be aware that they sell the pro version which is supposed to be "higher" power and upgraded screen. even ordering from ebay and all of their protections for the buyer, I still got sent the regular 17s and not the pro version. after complaining their solution was not to replace them with the correct radio but to send 'some' of my money back. I dont even think ive seen any of their radios that live up to any power rating but was hoping those would have. heck they are probably just better at putting spyware into the circuits.
What was the sellers name on eBay?
After several years of rough use my UV-5R is on its last legs, held together with zip ties, all the buttons are bald and the potentiometer doesn't like to work at times. I'm debating getting another uv-5r or just waiting and upgrading
There is some news coming out about this radio soon. Stay tuned. (I don't have all the details just yet, but what I do have looks good)
Just get another one...
I must have missed your mention of the ability to charge via the C Type port directly into the battery? I didn’t think I skipped over anything, and I do remember wondering if you were going to point out a second charging option other than the desktop charge stand. The ability to charge with a USB/C type cord is a pretty big deal. Thanks for the review! I’m going to order one just for the heck of it. For 28 bucks, I’d be crazy not to own my 6th Baofeng! Right?
I didn't mention the USB-C charging in this video, my radio doesn't have it. Check this one out for USB Charging AND tri-band: amzn.to/3GmmJAS
@@temporarilyoffline Ohhhhhhhh…..well, that explains it, then. You were probably wondering why I didn’t just scroll back and look for the battery pack info. I didn’t. I’m lazy. I also saw some dude saying there’s now a “UV17R Pro L” that “Works on 220.” I am assuming it also has 440, but I didn’t click on his video. Because as we’ve already established, I’m lazy. I couldn’t find this Pro L unit on Amazon, by the way. I’m sure it’s there. I don’t have to explain why I won’t be looking any further at this time. When will they exhaust the alphabet with new model designations? 73 N7WRN
Enjoy your new radio! @jacobaccurso 😂
harmonics?! I understood UV5R's have started leaving the factory with the spurious emissions issue being addressed, albeit it's still a lottery as to whether you get a good one or not.
Yeah, I don't get the backwards movement.
Before you get yelled at ...that hit home...😂
Right!
Hey. Radio noob here, with a noob question. What do you mean by the dirty or clean in the radio signal and since it seems to matter, which clean radio would you suggest to replace this with?
Dirty = The radio transmits "loud" signals on frequencies its not supposed - some of which you aren't legally allowed to transmit on, and some of which might interfere with your local emergency services.
My recommendation would depend on quite a few things, but I'm happy to help out. First question is always budget, second question is what digital mode, if any, does your local repeater use?
@@temporarilyoffline In terms of budget, I prefer the lower end. That's why I'm interested in these Baofengs. I'd prefer to spend less than 200 for 2 radios to start with. I'm afraid I don't know about local repeaters. I assume there's an app for maps maybe? I'll take a look.
Edit: Possibly FM or echo link
@@sergemarlonThis radio will work for FM - echolink is a free app on your phone, so get on that ASAP. Get your feet wet with some cheap baofengs like this one and start playing. With this radio and the right cable, you can program from the computer, send emails, send digital text messages, beacon weather, etc. Its crazy how much stuff you can do with one of these and the right accessories. After you get started, you'll know better what you're interested in. As for repeaters, there is an app or a website from: www.repeaterbook.com
@@temporarilyoffline Wow. Sounds fun. I think I will get started with these then. Thanks for the advice, Nitap.
@@sergemarlonYou bet! Stay tuned for more!
Baofeng F22. I connected a 2-pole wired microphone. The PTT button of the device was disabled, but the mini microphone does not work. Is there a menu setting?
I don't have that model, I'd double check the settings for anything obvious and try a factory reset... if those two things don't work I'd suspect a broken radio or a broken wired mic... swap one out and see. Good Luck!
@@temporarilyoffline Solution: The radio must first be turned on. Living radio must be connected to the microphone. Thank you for your work.
Can I do anything with this radio without a ham license? Can’t beat the price on Amazon
You can listen to FM radio, you can listen to weather station, you can monitor local repeaters and see if you are interested in joining. The national calling frequency is 145.52, so you can hangout there as well.
Head over to hamstudy.org and see how close you are to passing the technician license requirement. Let me know what you need help with and I'll see if I can make a video for you.
How much moisture can these new ones take, I know the 2 older one's my son had both fied from morning moisture on our deer lease?
It has a rating of 4 on a 0-9bscale which means: “Water splashed against the enclosure from any direction will have no harmful effects”
Amazing video bro!
Glad you liked it!
Stev can you explain the tinySA display 1602 1x setting? I am not sure what that does
Thanks
Steve
There are 2 rules for FCC Part 97 on 2m, #1 is -40db below the fundamental and #2 is -25uW which when converted to dbm is -16.02dbm, any harmonics need to be below these two numbers. The TinySA isn't "Lab Grade", so take my measurments with that in mind.
@@temporarilyoffline Thanks That explains where the number came from.
Now I notice I dont have the same options yours had, so it is time for a firmware upgrade. new learning.
@@saj2694 I needed a firmware upgrade also.
I'll give them points for the massive screen improvement over the UV5R. My old eyes struggle to read my GT5R.
I was surprised that you didn't throw the stock antenna in the trash. It must be an upgrade. Okay, I keep mine, but they're all in the bottom of the parts box.
Had to do apples:apples man! Wouldn't be fair to have the old guard working at an advantage!
What radio would you recommend for hunting in the mountains and being within a few miles at the longest from your partner’s?
I'd start with what they have already and match them. If they have nothing and you're a licensed ham, this might be a good place to start, but it depends on terrain and other obstacles if you'll connect. If you're not a ham, the GMRS license is the same price, but no test. In both cases, height means might and more watts out are better... But at about $30, it doesn't hurt to test the waters with either the GMRS version or the ham version baofeng offers. After you dive in, you'll quickly learn what more you need and there isn't any easier/cheaper method than to just get started. Have fun!
Nice review: Short and to the point. The link on Amazon shows the price today is $26.99, but that might be a black Friday price.
Thanks!
Ya know, I really should've paid more attention in Recon training when they were going over radio stuff. I recognize a bunch of terms, but honestly have zero idea what any of them mean anymore (getting old). My job was basically to put the damn drone together and hold it while my battle launched it. Everyone else did the cool techy stuff after that while I manned the rifle (I'm dumbing it down a lot... I did more than that, but I consider myself a shooter first and foremost, not a weatherman).
Makes sense, come join us as a ham. We have cookies!
Great little radio only thing chirps not updated to program it do you know of any other programs?
Not yet, but it won't be long.
Have you performed a mAh capacity test yet on that battery? If so, what was the actual mAh rating?
I haven't. I don't have the test gear for that.
@@temporarilyoffline Well I have. I tested the 1800 mAh battery that comes with the unit (17 Pro GPS) along with 2 (two) 2500 mAh batteries from Baofengs website and a 4800 mAh battery from Amazon. All 4 batteries are within a couple grams of each other. Each of the 4 batteries were tested 3 times each. All tests show that all the batteries were between 1326 and 1362 mAh each. Not the 1800, 2500, and definitely not the 4800 mAh capacities they claim. Typical Chinese propaganda. The 17 Pro GPS has worked great so far and I have no qualms with the unit just the advertised battery capacities. Buyer beware!!!
@@gorillamotors thanks for the info
Does it GPS? Can you use it for APRS?
Good question!
Are you able to transmit and receive at the same time? E.g. Full duplex, though they call the ability to transmit and receive on different channels (not at the same time) on the UV-5R full duplex.
That is a very good question! Its like being "gluten free" - if it was, they would never shut up about it... but since they are silent, I'd assume its NOT. Now...
How do you test it out to prove that? Stay tuned for a video once I figure that you. I like you're thinking!
For the single channel check, I imagine a SA between to radios on the same frequency will give you yhe result you want. It should visually show you the collision occurring. For the radio itself, you would likely need a schematic to see the signal path. If the TX and RX are on the same path, then you will have your answer in visual form, looking to and from mic and speaker. Audibly, you press transmit on both units, and speak in one while listing to the other. That will give you the answer as well.
For dual channel duplex, you can put one channel on the weather, and another channel to talk to your buddy. Audibly, if you can talk to your buddy while listing to the weather, you have your answer.
In my opinion, I think these units do not share the same path from and to the speaker and mic. But hey, a test is a test. I would never have found out TDMA is a major strategical security problem with out testing things people said could not be done, or that didn't make sense to even try, all because I got a little curious.
@@igounfazed great solution!
@@temporarilyoffline You are welcomed. (Could you tell me if the unit can or can not use the 5 decimal digits? It looked like you could only program 3 decimal digits. That is a pretty big difference.)
@@igounfazed Just got a chance to check - it will take 5 decimal digits... now is it capable of being that precise 😉
How are the filtering qualities
They suck, take a look in the video for the filter sweep.
When you hit the harmonic with that guitar pick. Don't know why put made me laugh more than it should've.
It's kinda on point, isn't it?
I doubt that the manual is in English. It's probably more like Chinenglish. I have a Baufeng UV-5E and I programmed both the UHF and VHF repeaters including the CTSCC tones for the repeaters. I programmed it from the front panel as I don't have a computer cable. Cheers & 73 from K9POW in eastern TN
No explanation of tones in the how-to section is my biggest concern.
I wish this came with a way to charge via USB, then I'd get one for sure.
You can get a model that has USB-C charging built into the battery: amzn.to/3QvB8j5
I am getting on 146.00 (5.1watts) on 220 (4.5 watts) on 440.00 (4.9 watts) in my book it says 5 watts out, so it is close, did not check the sa yet let you know.
Looking forward to it!
Yes and half of that power is going in harmonics
missed opportunity to include barrel jack or usb charging directly on the housing or battery
amzn.to/3sziVt0 They have it, just not on the model they sent me.
It seems to me these are closer to the Senhaix 8600/8800 radios, which are quite nice.
I hadn't noticed before, but I can see that now that you mentioned it, thanks!
Is it waterproof?
Nope
I read the product description from the link TO shared and it does use the word waterproof but if you continue reading it actually says IP54, so I think it's fair to say that TO is right and it IS NOT waterproof. It should survive a light sprinkle and maybe being dropped in the snow, but I wouldn't bury it or toss it in a bucket of water.
I see it listed as IP-54
How long does the battery last? And I will assume that with the screw on battery that the other Baofeng batteries won't work
I don't talk on 2m much, so mine lasts forever sitting in the charging cradle and listening. You can get additional batteries and they have USB-C charging. In my current world, I'm never far away from a charging solution.
UV5R is probably the best standard.. All depends what you want to use it for. Qualsheng is a beast because it can have custom firmware and can be hardware hacked for all bands.
That Quansheng looks like fun. I have mine sitting in a box taunting me to play with it.
@@temporarilyoffline I have ulefone Armor 26 with walkie talkie, and I am planning to buy Quansheng and Baofeng uv5r just for fun and for modding.. I might use them in future for serious stuff as I like hiking mountain areas or speedboating fjords where there is no cellular coverage and accidents happen every day. Radio is the only way to communicate in wild distant areas like this. This will be a new type of adventure.
@@EvasiveCrow Awesome, you're in for a lot of fun and exploration. You'll never be bored again!
@@temporarilyoffline I try never to be bored every day. I wish you and everyone the same. Life can be beautiful if you explore the world. Rubber dingy with 6HP engine can get you in to great speeds on water and low fuel consumption.. It is a cheap way to get a real speed boat, and mountains are free and beautiful. I encourage everyone to travel to a mountain area and hike around wilderness. Remember that this is nature, so dont try to fight it. If you find yourself fighting, go back. It can be very dangerous. Enjoy the nature but stay safe. Never try to fight it, because you will loose to it and you will loose your life. I am very serious about it. There is allot of fun and adventure, but always prepare for the unexpected and stay safe.
@@EvasiveCrow Very Wise
It seems a whole lot like the Atomstack A5pro ... i bet it is.
Nearly identical!
What is the difference between the 17 and 17R models or other R vs non R radios
Stay tuned for a video on that!
Repeater programming was a little further down the contents page.
Read the other comments for more info
Can thisone do the same as the 5? As in if you factory reset it you can do alot more frequenties?
No, they locked that out of this model. Might be a new key-combo
@@temporarilyoffline is there any newer model that can do the same? Or are they all locked out?
@@chazznl8823 the UV-5H (I think) is the next new model and it's supposed to be hackable.
Program repeater 6.4 pg. 24 in your manual
Yep, thanks
Are these TX locked to ham bands or can these tx on GMRS frequencies like the old UV-5R?
These are locked and at present there is no "unlock code" - stay tuned!
Try the hash key for power.
Will do
Page 24 said “Repeater Programming”. Am I missing something?
See other comments, it's not very good for this radio's target audience.
@@temporarilyoffline yeah, sorry. Noticed the other comments right after I posted mine. Honestly, learning to fumble through the menus to program my local repeaters (without using chirp) was part of the fun when I got my license a couple years ago. There is a sense of accomplishment in conquering the Baofeng and hitting the repeater for the first time.
No worries! I don't think I've ever "saved a memory", but I have programmed in quite a few on the fly.
Based on what you showed us, I think I like the old better. But others may feel differently and that's ok.
I think the modern look and the RSSI are good, the rest is "same old feng"
What radio(baofeng) do you recommend for hunting use?
Unlicensed: geni.us/O1ANuU
GMRS License: geni.us/f4NzTp
HAM License: geni.us/qB7n7tT
Is this radio capable of programming two bands v/u in a single memory channel for working the sats ?
I don't think so - you can program the offset, but probably not far enough away. This is also a half duplex radio, so while you could work sats, it would be easier if you had 2 of them.
@@temporarilyoffline This is strange. My old Baofeng UV-B5 can be programed for 2 bands. I dont mind it being half duplex. I have made hundreds of qso's with the LEO sats this way. BTW my Yaesu FT-65E can not do that either.
I orderd 2 of these radios. And I wanted the one that transmitting on 220 mhz. And I specifically told the seller I wanted the 220mhz one. And I only got one out of 2 that transmitts on 220 mhz. So it's a game of chance with these baofeng sellers.
The 220mhz radio should be a "UV-17L" and the 2/70 only should be a "UV-17R". If you got a UV-17R when you asked for an L model, send it back!
I would expect that they are using the same guts for all their radios that fit this footprint but only turning on certain features or bands depending on the price point. We need to have a handy ham get inside one and figure out the process of making the radio more useable. hint, hint...
100% agree - Baofeng doesn't make the "Radio-On-A-Chip" module that is inside, and I don't think they are packaging it up either. I'd love to play around with the chip on a "dev module". Gotta get in there and see. (This is how the UV-5R was also)
Is that a SDR ?
This is a "Direct Conversion" receiver. in HT's the best we're looking for is "Super Heterodyne", they have the best ability to reject strong adjacent signals.
hmm why no AM radio in an emergency AM band is more useful as it has more stations for giving out info than FM has.
Good question
Will this work both ways with the Midland GMRS radios that a lot of people use?
Not this model, you're looking for the GMRS-15 Pro amzn.to/3ul5Tj7
@@temporarilyoffline Thanks
This looks more like an update to the uv-82.
I wander how long it will take them to run out of stock of the old ones?
I'm radio ignorant. Is there anything that has the same capability as the banned Anytone Termin-8er radio? Why it was banned?
It looks like the 8R series of radios have been discontinued? They were first released in 2015, and no longer appear for sale. I can't say for sure, but I'd guess it's a ruling issue because those different radio services aren't "type accepted" for all of those different services. What you'd be looking for today would be a high quality radio that can have a "mars mod" done to it, and even then, it would probably be dirty on the bands it wasn't designed for.
Does it have alphanumeric programming capabilities?
Not from the front panel - have to use Chirp to get names in the channels.
Another Ham Radio YTuber (Never Without Knowledge) just did a teardown and harmonics review (yesterday) of 3 separate variants of UV17 along with a UV21, he found the "plain" UV17 variant with a 2022-made board and GigoDevice ARM chip was actually giving a pretty clean output, unlike its "newer" affix-laden siblings. The most obvious difference is the LCD display shows a light-blue colored UI on white background instead of the black background.
I think the plain UV-17 could become a coveted "clean" cheap ham radio and a good waterproof alternative to the Radioddity GT-5R.
Thanks for the info!
Hi there! I’ve just been super curious if I could work a satellite with a baofeng. I already have a BF F8HP and an arrow antenna. The antenna doesn’t have a duplexer so I have to use 2 radios, one for transmit, and one for receive. I plan on using the F8HP for transmitting. Could I successfully listen on a UV5R or one of these things? Anything else you recommend (transmitter or receiver, I’m looking for advice)? Thanks!
One more thing before I forget. If I physically attach a radio to an arrow antenna (e.g Velcro on the boom) so it’s easier to hold the antenna and listen to the radio at the same time, will it attenuate the signals at all? Thanks again, KC1TOK Zach.
Any two HTs in the setup you mentioned will work, the rest is all skill, percerverance and patience! You got this! (No problem with velcroing the radio)
@@temporarilyoffline Thank you very much for getting back! 73 from an enthusiastic technician.
The menu looks like from the Talkpod A36plus
It sure does!
Any good Beos which do data transmissions?
Check out the digirig: amzn.to/3Ne7Swv and cables amzn.to/40KxvKE and use the UV-5R+Plus model for computer data modes, or the aprs-k1 cable amzn.to/3szlVWi and a cheap android amzn.to/3G6zmQt for APRS, you bet!
Is it legal to transmit with it?
I will be interested to see how TO answers this. 🙂
Not for Part 97. I'm sure its only certified for Part 90.
I touch on it at the end of the video - lots of uses for an RX only $30 radio... but TX ain't one of them.
Steve, Thanks for your review. I did hear your comments about it being an inexpensive receiver. What was the FCC number you mentioned? Did it earn some FCC certification? I guess I need to reed Part 90 also.
FCC-ID 2AJGM-UV17 - As a ham, we can make it legal to transmit, but doing that work costs more than the radio does! @@W7LDT