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  • The LoRa Meshtastic T-BEAM device are small battery powered devices that will mesh with other T-BEAM and send messages and other data from your phones, tablets and computers.
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  • @HamRadioCrashCourse
    @HamRadioCrashCourse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    RANGE Test is here!!! th-cam.com/video/OwTy_-Y-A5o/w-d-xo.html

    • @gotallmyvaccinesforallknow4949
      @gotallmyvaccinesforallknow4949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is what the millitary uses and proves satillites are really cell towers.

    • @alal792
      @alal792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gotallmyvaccinesforallknow4949 millions of lies in the matrix...that's just one of em!

    • @christinajane7311
      @christinajane7311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How do journalists request and interview?

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christinajane7311 just email me.

    • @marktemplin1159
      @marktemplin1159 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂😂👍

  • @ChiEKKUsama
    @ChiEKKUsama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1756

    Can't wait to get my first message on this thing about my car's extended warranty.

    • @chrisyoung3082
      @chrisyoung3082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      You forgot about lowering your credit card interest rates .... lol 😃

    • @jackal6902
      @jackal6902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lol

    • @hardrock6r
      @hardrock6r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      the greatest comment ever

    • @robkoons2100
      @robkoons2100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I have to admit this comment made me laugh because it is so damn true to life!

    • @MgtowRubicon
      @MgtowRubicon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      (How did they know?)

  • @krikka1
    @krikka1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Great video Josh, let’s continue to experimenting on this powerful mix of LoRa and mesh networks! 👍 I’m waiting next videos 👏👏

  • @austincarroll8294
    @austincarroll8294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The things I'm learning on this channel are really exciting. I've never been a tech guy, but seeing what can be done with this stuff has changed what I do in my spare time. Thanks for all of these videos, and I look forward to watching more in the future. You now have a new supporter.

  • @FPVSlacker
    @FPVSlacker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +737

    It should be used as such: Encourage as many people as possible to install in their attic for low cost. A small solar panel and lithium battery will allow the network to remain in place in power outages. Joining the mesh will allow access to the mesh. The mesh will carry encrypted data from users on the network. Encryption keys will be used like phone numbers. Individuals may communicate outside normal networks, with strong encryption preventing the ability of government snooping or censorship. Yes government tyrants, I'm talking about YOU.

    • @railgap
      @railgap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      anoher good idea which nobody will adopt because most humans are stupid.

    • @sammiller6631
      @sammiller6631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@railgap It's not a good idea. If one neighbor gets upset thinking your encrypted data is running their wifi, they'll take your "I'll do whatever I want on the airwaves" approach to jam your mesh with their own.

    • @mrt1957
      @mrt1957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      bossy guys like you are the goverment, yeah, I am talking about you. Usually the finger pointers are the worst type of goberment agents.

    • @jamesparker437
      @jamesparker437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@mrt1957 quintessential stupiditism much?

    • @mrt1957
      @mrt1957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@jamesparker437 You got me, I got my PhD in QS and have been itching to flex for years. Finally got my chance!

  • @neiloler
    @neiloler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks for making this video, I’ve been looking into this, your perspective is a good data point. As you play around more, I’d love to learn along with you!

  • @davidpritchett855
    @davidpritchett855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This is pretty cool! I've been wanting to set up a basic mesh network for my property to monitor the charge of solar batteries that charge electric fences. There seems to be a lot of value to these kind of long range blue tooth systems.

  • @dancoyle6911
    @dancoyle6911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been watching prepper/ham radio videos for a few months now and this is the most intriguing idea I’ve come across in them. Thank you for the information

  • @pablod6872
    @pablod6872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As always, another good video from HRCC. Even if this isn't something that I would use, I appreciate learning about new radio tech.

  • @28TrucksTravel
    @28TrucksTravel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent content. I want to try this for our next overlanding event when we have a convoy and base camp!

  • @Eyes0penNoFear
    @Eyes0penNoFear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I've never heard of this before. It's definitely something I want to learn more about!

  • @rv6amark
    @rv6amark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Interesting! Two years ago I didn't really understand Mesh Networks. Today, I have a couple of mesh networks in my home, and it appears I will be experimenting with this as well. Thank you for making this video.

  • @markdheilong
    @markdheilong 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review of LoRa WAN devices and the use case you presented between two Android devices with the Meshtastic app for messaging between them.
    Love the shirt "Run SSB"!

  • @thewebmaster1
    @thewebmaster1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Excellent tutorial and sharing of essential knowledge in the age of hyper-surveillance. Also good for the revival of interest in ham, cb, and other types of radio aficionado niches. If digital tech fails, analogue and radio will save us

  • @Allofthemonkeys
    @Allofthemonkeys 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice to know, I was just thinking about getting my group of friends to set up a lora net

  • @ricks4361
    @ricks4361 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just getting into this comms stuff and hearing about this. Wow!! And even though this is an older video you do a Gr job as always presenting the info in such a way it’s ez for NOOBs to understand. Thanks again.

  • @HamRadioDX
    @HamRadioDX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Josh, very interesting little units. 915 MHZ is a ISM band here to IIRC, might good to experiment with. Also your camera looks awesome, very crisp, nice work

  • @midnightsailor1
    @midnightsailor1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I find this very intriguing. Especially at the price . Can't wait to see all the possibilities of this as folks start working with it. As always ,thanks for bringing us the best and most communication info anywhere.

    • @iwinrar5207
      @iwinrar5207 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My grandma is close by to where I live. Gunna try this lol

    • @noway905
      @noway905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your local police and Google are using a similar form of this called RING.

    • @midnightsailor1
      @midnightsailor1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@noway905 I didnt realize ring was the same thing....so people are self installing their own state surveillance system...as usual any thing good will eventually be put to bad uses if evil people get a hold of it.

  • @ahmedmanajid
    @ahmedmanajid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I remember following a project that used the lora to setup repeaters like this in puerto rico? They launched them in floating rubber ducks.

    • @karinhart489
      @karinhart489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Wasn’t that how pre-pandemic they permitted isolated villagers in PR post hurricane to text each other using the mesh network of baby ducks (strapped to road signs) that passed the text message on to parent ducks which pass txt onto the internet. That group won an innovation award🥇 & grant from IBM, who posted a video on award winners.

    • @karinhart489
      @karinhart489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrissewell1608, I would like to set something like that here for our cove area, and maybe beam the texts to the internet across the bay line of sight, but that is a bit out of my skill set, so I may start with a small neighborhood grid of those things Josh was showing & get help with the “mother duck” part later.

    • @ahmedmanajid
      @ahmedmanajid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@karinhart489 yes that was them! It got me started on my search that also led me to learning about AREDN a different project but similar goals.

    • @karinhart489
      @karinhart489 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ahmedmanajid, do you have it up & working?

  • @HackMyWayOut
    @HackMyWayOut หลายเดือนก่อน

    Found your channel through TechAirSpace Meshtastic T-Deck video. How did I not know about Meshtastic before? Our local HAM circles are out of date! Nice to see "new" HAM stuff pop up.

  • @theguywitheyebrows
    @theguywitheyebrows 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    learned about this a couple years ago and wanted to get into it but didn't have enough understanding. much thanks and praise for this video!! these devices and mhe nesh network are a prepper's wetdream.

  • @breakfast7595
    @breakfast7595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is awesome, I hope to have a Lora mesh between my cars, and the house so that way I can remain connected even in a grid down situation

  • @unklStewy
    @unklStewy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    LoRA makes for a good remote serial port as well, tack one onto your repeater controller.

  • @geartech3860
    @geartech3860 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for explaining I always wondered what these things were for. They look so cool just didn't no what they were for. Nice to see a video that shows how to use it and what they do.

  • @ChatterontheWire
    @ChatterontheWire 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    stumbled across this, I know it is a few years old and you've done some others on this since then, but had a good chuckle when I saw the esp32/lora32 device. I have 3 of those from 2018 that have been collecting dust for 5 years, guess I found something to use them for now. Thanks!

  • @davidsradioroom9678
    @davidsradioroom9678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Another interesting piece of technology.

  • @s1krrpilot
    @s1krrpilot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The great performance of LoRa in all these 3 features (good sensitivity, low path loss, good obstacle penetration) makes LoRa a disruptive technology enabling really long range links. This is specially important in urban scenarios, with very difficult transmission conditions. To sum up, LoRa can get long ranges in Smart Cities deployments, so it reduces dramatically the size of the backbone network (repeaters, gateways or concentrators).

  • @chizukichan
    @chizukichan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just subbed to this channel because I'm already holding onto a couple of ESP32-based LoRA devices I've had telemetry and remote control plans for. 😁

  • @hemitj
    @hemitj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this. Looking forward to more about these.

  • @n1kkri
    @n1kkri 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I would enjoy a future video of this with more examples how it could be used.

    • @railgap
      @railgap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      but then it wouldn't be a commercial.

  • @paulussantosowidjaja93
    @paulussantosowidjaja93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the learning in preparing ourselves like the ETs going off grids all over - hmm not only the globe but also outer space one day. Cheers!

  • @LoveWins
    @LoveWins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just might start buying these like a few each month and setup my own private network around my house. I love up on a mountain in the woods so this would be cool to setup in my area and allow some of my friends and neighbors to connect. This is a fun little hobby

  • @Rob.Chapman
    @Rob.Chapman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating, I've known about about LoRa & MESH for a while, I didn't realise it was quite this cheap, and relatively easy to get in on for a hobbiest - as i am over in Europe though I'll need to do some added research. Thanks for a very informative and well presented video

  • @Aangel452
    @Aangel452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you, very informative. This would be a great device for a small community of friends or peepers, to join together in blackout. Will this device work with no internet or basic one to or search features?
    How does one protect the actual open solenoid and parts? Does it come with a protective case, or do we have to get our own like the 3D made version you mentioned.

  • @daveshongkongchinachannel
    @daveshongkongchinachannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very interesting and informative. The way the world is going, you could imagine how such devices could be implemented and expanded to bring back a truly free internet of sorts.

    • @philiplubduck6107
      @philiplubduck6107 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A sponsored internet, that will be funded by the rich and eventually set up as a controlled and owned frequency.

    • @charleslee808
      @charleslee808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      “funded by the rich and eventually set up as a controlled and owned frequency” - kind of like HAM is now, requiring licensing and is heavily regulated with violators paying hefty fine, loss of equipment, and prison time?

  • @haatemee6966
    @haatemee6966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm an outdoorsy person along with a bunch of friends, I can see this being in our backpacks to set up a network when we're out and about. Cool vid, thanks for sharing 😁

    • @thebotfather6713
      @thebotfather6713 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was gonna be my question so with this I just bring my phone in the words or what not and be able
      To use internet and all that?

    • @JonVlogs123
      @JonVlogs123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, think of it as local mesh network of LoRa devices connected for text messaging. ​@@thebotfather6713

  • @hoosierdaddy2308
    @hoosierdaddy2308 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool. I just found you. I'm trying to decide if I want to get my ham license or just my grms or both for emergencies such as catastrophes, etc.
    Will check out more of your videos. I subscribed.thanks man..

    • @consciousness1237
      @consciousness1237 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get both you will have tons of great options

  • @richtaft3308
    @richtaft3308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've worked with LoRa before in a master to multiple slave type scenario. The amazing thing is you're only transmitting about 20mW. This is a variation of DSSS and due to the orthogonal signal spreading, the receiver can pick the signal up below the noise floor. I have been able to get up to 2 miles with the Multitech module. With a 1 watt FHSS module on the same band, with the same antenna, I get about half that range. Not all modules get the same range with the same settings. The Atmel version I tried didn't go nearly as far with the same settings. Atmel didn't know why. A node up on the roof or a pole with a better antenna should go really far.

  • @superspeederbooster
    @superspeederbooster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I wonder when all of the off grid people gonna unite and create a grid...

    • @thereisnosanctuary6184
      @thereisnosanctuary6184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This.

    • @ertonyrn
      @ertonyrn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      already been done years ago with the gotennas. look it up

    • @digitaltrip420
      @digitaltrip420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ertonyrn This the next version of that?

    • @hmax1591
      @hmax1591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if off grid people create a grid, doesn't that defeats the term and purpose?

    • @hmax1591
      @hmax1591 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Aerial.Imaging ins't that the way everything in our civilization started? A few people make a tribe, join other tribes with like minded goals, and they in turn become towns and then cities and whole societies?

  • @BryanChance
    @BryanChance 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always been interested in hamm radio. Good to find this channel!!

  • @Scaliad
    @Scaliad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First heard of meshtastic only a few days ago from S2 Underground. I like your explanation better... Very intriguing idea for a offgrid communication LAN. I'm half inclined to biy 10 of them and distribute them to neighbors! Though the setup may be more complicated, no license and use of phone or computer offers advantages over HAM or GMRS for the purpose.

  • @TheBrookeClevenger
    @TheBrookeClevenger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I found your video interesting and informative. Thank you for the effort. Just a note that at one point you are reluctant to reveal your geo-coordinates, understandably. However, the transceiver device on display was showing them after. Of course they may have been spoofed... I hope 🤞

    • @danielvia8705
      @danielvia8705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's a moot point anyways. He gave his call sign. Anyone can look that up and see a home address. The only downside to being licensed and that info being publicly available.

    • @thebrookereport2610
      @thebrookereport2610 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielvia8705 Ah, thank you for the clarification! I had the distinct feeling that I was missing some essential info :) I'm not very knowledgeable about ham radio, tbh. Very much a beginner. I appreciate your well put reply, cheers!

    • @danielvia8705
      @danielvia8705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thebrookereport2610 You're welcome! There's always plenty of welcoming radio amateurs out there eager to help. That's the whole premise of the hobby, education and learning. Plus it's fun and challenging alike.

    • @TheBrookeClevenger
      @TheBrookeClevenger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danielvia8705 Thank you for the encouragement :) I've recently purchased a basic SDR, as a starting point to get familiarised. Let the fun begin :)

  • @stephenholland6328
    @stephenholland6328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I’m glad you present ham radio as very inclusive. Hams are a perfect audience for this even if it isn’t ham band. Hams excel at patching things together. The more tools the better. Also, this tells me there are ICs that are available. So this little video highlights the technology for anything from application to hacking. Great to show these technologies! Love it!

  • @kakarikiIck
    @kakarikiIck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really cool technology. Thanks for sharing this video pal.

  • @HamRadio2
    @HamRadio2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid. Might have to put one out in the lease on the AREDN spot I am building

  • @mactireban3744
    @mactireban3744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Would really love to see the solar power build video. would be great for hiking with friends or build a community network along a trail like the Appellation trail.

    • @45Unit
      @45Unit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a great idea.

    • @jimmyt5487
      @jimmyt5487 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Appalachian. The ch is the important part.

    • @pesto12601
      @pesto12601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You'd need like 10,000 of these for a few miles of AP trail.. LOL.. cheaper options are available like Sat connections.

  • @jojorumbles8749
    @jojorumbles8749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This combined with a raspberry pi, keyboard, screen, and a 3D printer could be amazing.

    • @MrJackal43
      @MrJackal43 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      3D printer? Lol, dumb.

    • @ciarfah
      @ciarfah 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrJackal43 How so?

    • @sandordugalin8951
      @sandordugalin8951 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why the 3D printer specifically?

    • @jojorumbles8749
      @jojorumbles8749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sandordugalin8951 well you need to create some kind of framework to house all the components.

  • @ronaldcheatham1365
    @ronaldcheatham1365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent content.
    Great idea.
    Definitely will look into.
    Thanks.

  • @kevinkidderphotographer
    @kevinkidderphotographer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is cool!
    I would love to see how this might be integrated into Home Assistant for use around a large ranch or homestead type environment. Could it be connected to sensors to relay a setting? Notification of movement?

  • @johnkaelberer237
    @johnkaelberer237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Really good basic review. These devises are quite interesting. I've seen reviews that have these communicate at up to 10 miles in more rural areas, less in cities (height should get more range) and of course topography will play a part. Being a 915 MHz, there shouldn't be many other radio devises to interfere with their use. More than one group can be in the same area and separate from what I hear. Lots of potential uses. Grid/cell phone down, these will keep you connected with others in your area as long as you have a way to keep the battery charged...think solar. Being spread spectrum, others will not be able to easily copy your texts. Very few people other than your UNCLE. Great op sec. I'm looking forward to more info on these and will have to pick up a few. Thanks for the review Josh !

    • @stevezark2152
      @stevezark2152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Except for the helium network 🤣

    • @Akkbar21
      @Akkbar21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      op sec? wtf? you a special agent or something? or a tool. ya thats it

  • @Meshtastic
    @Meshtastic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Josh! Thank for this great video! You opened up the flood gates for Ham Radio Operators with Meshtastic.

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No problem. I’m already on your Discord. It helped a lot.

    • @Meshtastic
      @Meshtastic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HamRadioCrashCourse *our Discord :)

  • @lethltruth
    @lethltruth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spent hours looking into this. Great system but would like to see more applications.

  • @JohnDoe-ff2fc
    @JohnDoe-ff2fc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Deer hunters in separate stands could now communicate while out in Timbuktu, as well as fishermen, w/o needing walkietalkies and such. Or a camper/hiker that heads out from a base camp to get firewood, water, etc

  • @CdoGtheGreat
    @CdoGtheGreat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Hello. I'm just stumbled upon your channel, and find this to be very interesting. I am a tinker type guy, and my mind just explored with ideas for this. I'm not even halfway thru your video. Could you multi purpose these to relay a parameter motion sensor mesh? Maybe a wifi or Bluetooth enabled outdoor motion sensor?

    • @chloedemeter5473
      @chloedemeter5473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's what Dugan says he does. Uses it for perimeter security. Boogereater archive has his old streams. Check the "in order" playlist, should start with the Yankee Boogle video. He has like 5 channels with his old content up on here. Occasionally in flux. Comments on the Boogereater videos should lead you to them if you're interested. Mostly large scale global "political" discussions and self sufficiency stuff. Occasional drunk spiritual ideology streams. It's long form discussion and chat distracts him pretty often but there's lots of good info. I learned a lot anyway. He's the one who I learned about LoRa from.

  • @AD6DMDennis
    @AD6DMDennis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is fascinating.

  • @truthandreality8465
    @truthandreality8465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really great video!! Really excellent!! Thanks!!
    Do you recommend any portable/pocket shortwave receivers/transceivers or videos about them?? Great!! Your videos are incredible!! Thanks!!

  • @MurcuryEntertainment
    @MurcuryEntertainment 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would love to see this combined with the emergency button project that 'Great Scott!' came up with. A handheld emergency system that can send a distress message and co-ordinates that doesn't rely on a cell network.

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That would be cool! I do have a bit of a project starting here that will leverage LoRA to send some sensor data that could be used in lots of ways.

  • @Pyroneurosis
    @Pyroneurosis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    NOOOOOOOO. We mustn't let the overlords catch wind of this gem.

    • @JosephSantoro
      @JosephSantoro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Ugh... The overlords invented them.

    • @springbloom5940
      @springbloom5940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Its a trojan horse

    • @Morberis
      @Morberis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Google already removed the required android app from the store it looks like. Because it needs background location data and that violates app policies.

    • @justawfulgamer7738
      @justawfulgamer7738 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Morberis sideload

  • @arikjohnson412
    @arikjohnson412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    This is killer - looking for dissident tech for the coming authoritarian era... more please 🙏💕🔥🙌

    • @smith5796
      @smith5796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol.

    • @weaponizedautism6199
      @weaponizedautism6199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@smith5796 laugh now cry later

    • @smith5796
      @smith5796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's all I've got.

    • @davidjones8942
      @davidjones8942 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Arik Johnson For what you indicted, anything that operates on RF is not a good choice..... as soon as anything happens, govt sets up RF jamming so only they can communicate.....

    • @Bloodysugar
      @Bloodysugar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess we wont have to wait to be under a dictatorship to see every intelligence agencies able to hack and listen these tecs.

  • @Mike-mp1hk
    @Mike-mp1hk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got mine in the mail today, so stoked to set it up.

  • @2heavyb517
    @2heavyb517 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    outstanding intro, looking fwd to more on lora

  • @tomsmall6220
    @tomsmall6220 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Would like to see real world use. How it handles obstructions (trees, buildings, etc). Also interested in viewing map screen tracking multiple devices. This could be great for hiking, hunting, and more. Awesome video. More of this please. 👍

    • @devinmanderson
      @devinmanderson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If you do any searching about LoRa you'll quickly find a very determined swiss fellow that really gets in depth and has done some very impressive long range test.

    • @MishaDaBear
      @MishaDaBear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As it is far above 70cm and below 2.4 it should do far better than standard WIFI, and but not as well as like DMR on 70cm but permitting much wider bandwidth than 70cm could offer!

    • @penscratch
      @penscratch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out the TH-camr with the Swiss accent 😂

    • @jameslee522
      @jameslee522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the suburb aroundy house I've tested a little over a mile with one sitting in the window of my single storey house and the other holding in my hand walking. This could be easily increased by addingore nodes or placing one on high ground.

    • @dB-SPL
      @dB-SPL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MishaDaBear At the same power levels (100mW for a T-Beam), text messages over LoRa at 915 MHz have much greater range than DMR on 430-450 MHz. Ham operators in the US can use the 433 MHz LoRa modules and a power amplifier if you really wanted to, but the point is that it's reliable, even at very low power.

  • @donaldsmith3048
    @donaldsmith3048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw some that are Pi Hats. I would love to get to know more about this. I think that there is a lot of different things that can be done with this. It can be used to send thing around town. Not sure what the limit would be with the Pi Hat. With the power of the Pi and this to send between them there is a lot of things that can be done. I hope to hear more about this soon. Thank you for helping keeping up informed!

  • @humzajavaid298
    @humzajavaid298 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is awesome 👍

  • @Chris_at_Home
    @Chris_at_Home 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s new to me but fascinating. Have you tried a higher gain antenna? I’m an old tech retired from doing the communications that connects the world. We have a remote place that it would be fun to try it at.

  • @jovaraszigmantas
    @jovaraszigmantas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Just letting you know that these modules have GPS on them. Meaning that you don't even need your phone for others to see your location. The feature for your location to be pulled from your phone is there because other supported module don't have the GPS. Furthermore there is a new version of ttgo tbeam with better lora and GPS chips on them but is 7$ more expensive. Cheers

    • @teresabarrett8676
      @teresabarrett8676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How would I get the upgraded ttgo tbeam? How do these relate to the new (to southern Nevada) WeLink laser plus radio receiver using mesh router internet access being slowing tested in America?

    • @markmeehan9908
      @markmeehan9908 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If these modules incorporate a GPS receiver vs using the one in your smart phone, won’t that significantly decrease the battery life since gps will always be on?

  • @artemirrlazaris7406
    @artemirrlazaris7406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I like about this old tech design is that you only need one node on the hub to translate to a internet connection and if its open.. all users on it can technically operate with a internet connection also through the hub system... but then we would run into bandwidth an energy concerns... hmm.. but operating with texts should always be pretty fast, especially if the text system is completely encoded and stripped down so its software decomplier on the phone meaning the bit data size can be reduced significantly.

  • @jayzo
    @jayzo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been eyeing these up for months. I wish the antenna connector was on one of the shorter edges but I'm sure I can make/find an enclosure that I can add a short extension to put it on that side.

  • @yugbe
    @yugbe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I watched a video earlier today of someone setting a world record for longest LoRa connection at roughly 150 miles. He was on setting 12 which I belive is long slow, and it was done with a small antenna. It's all about LoS.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      The 200km guy was me. 73 de HB9BLA

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@chrissewell1608 Line of sight.

    • @sempertard
      @sempertard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      so video is out of the question?

    • @sempertard
      @sempertard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrissewell1608 bummer I was hoping to transmit 8K a 100 miles or so...

    • @thekikendallsautoandrandom1271
      @thekikendallsautoandrandom1271 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @T.J. Kong Satcom is still LOS, HF down to VLF are BLOS, VHF up through Ehf are LOS.

  • @1337Frederick
    @1337Frederick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is actually very promising. I would like to see a node server software that could encrypt/decrypt incoming/outgoing signals and boost them to customers for use in even wider area scenarios, perhaps even a freeware signal booster that individuals could then utilize to create a free open space signal network through participant networks. This could enable the general public to become empowered enough to finally get rid of the annoying cell carrier networks that overcharge for such a simple service.

    • @davidjones8942
      @davidjones8942 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't there already good encryption apps available for smart devices?

    • @1337Frederick
      @1337Frederick 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidjones8942 I was speaking about possible software for computers and routers, like a ddwrt for this type of service. Something that might allow sharing of routing equipment/home servers that user nodes could be connected to to boost range and make it easier to use the equipment at even longer ranges with a peer controlled network that was secured from privacy invasion.

    • @gg-gn3re
      @gg-gn3re 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "The things network"

  • @SeabreezeRJ
    @SeabreezeRJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    liked and subbed. thanks for this - long time interest for emergency mesh setups in disaster response

  • @pinetreesquad
    @pinetreesquad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can see a lot of potential for this type of mesh capabilities.

  • @johnd5244
    @johnd5244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This sounds like a promising project. I would need to get the LCD panel soldered, as I haven’t any soldering equipment

    • @jakegarrett8109
      @jakegarrett8109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Time to buy some. I don't know how you've survived without basic tool like that (I use it more than a hammer, most people own hammers). Even a cheap 40-60w rated one for $5 will be plenty for this and lots of projects, just practice on some dead electronics first and this will be easy.
      You could spend more (like mine is a nice one, I've went through a few cheap $3 to $5 ones through my lifetime but since I use it often I spent the cash and got a really nice $70 one that has both the soldering as well as a hot air rework on it with diaphragm pumps so I can do more advanced things like GPU core repairs and tiny SMD parts 1/5 the size of a grain of rice if needed (which in that example was bypassing the stupid timer on a heated blanket that would shut it off every 3 hours so you'd wake up at least twice freezing cold every night and never get a good night's sleep, but disable it's timing circuit by removing one part and perfect! Saved about $40 compared to their "pro model" which is the exact same thing as what I did). Also helpful for other improvements, like a simple solder mod almost doubled the power on my ebike (shunt mod, I noticed the transistors we're rated for 70 amps so I bumped it from 20 amps up to 35 amps so I still have a huge safety factor but lots more performance). Or for computer parts I add voltage bypass controls or you can do shunt mods or other stuff if you're into performance gains.
      But even mundane stuff like soldering a battery pack or adding external devices or anything else (like my drill now uses my quadcopter and airplane batteries so one less battery to charge, or my shaver now uses higher power LiPo for faster shaving, or my calculator now uses cell phone batteries). Also may need to solder the solar panel to the LoRa (I've also made my own solar panels from raw cells). I also use soldering a lot for fixing vehicle wiring, and really I don't know how you've survived this long without one, lol!

  • @TheZolon
    @TheZolon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Been playing with LoRa devices for a couple years now. Got some 433mhz ones and running the Meshtastic HAM settings so I could test even further ranges.
    These can also be used with one of the new LoRa satellites that are in orbit if you get the 433mhz.

    • @TheZolon
      @TheZolon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrissewell1608 nope. But it does cover hundreds of miles.

    • @williamharshman9572
      @williamharshman9572 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For now, I will stick to ham radio. Remember to protect your equipment from EMP, higher solar activity soon.

    • @TheZolon
      @TheZolon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamharshman9572 if it is in the 433mhz range, it is ham radio.

    • @williamharshman9572
      @williamharshman9572 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheZolon yes but I guess I should have been clearer, HF band ham radio and CB, 0-30 MHz. De kb0jjn.

  • @prephampaul
    @prephampaul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I have been using LoRa for my mining devices with 5.8 and 8db Rak antennas for range.

  • @BaffledBelief
    @BaffledBelief 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds good for the upcoming troubles if paired with proper encryption

  • @Iridium242
    @Iridium242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    These are very cool, love that T Shirt :)

    • @n7ekg
      @n7ekg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me, too!! Hey, are you going to be playing with these?

    • @Iridium242
      @Iridium242 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@n7ekg I want to try, maybe we can test them out

  • @freedog632
    @freedog632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This could be good on the long trails like AT. A hiker that gets lost, and has something like this, could greatly increase their chances of rescue.

    • @isaacfulton7731
      @isaacfulton7731 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably not better than an emergency beacon radio.
      But cool for communication with a group

    • @blagsreport4763
      @blagsreport4763 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thought the same!! If hikers all grabbed one it would create a usable mesh on busy trails. Save a fortune on subscriptions to emergency GPS systems that are never used and provide hiker to hiker warning system for trail issues... ie. blocked trails or bear sightings 🐻

    • @thomast8539
      @thomast8539 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@isaacfulton7731 Cell phone is already in the hiker's pocket. No added expense of another device.

  • @KeywordManagement
    @KeywordManagement 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was awesome. I'm going to experiment with this as well. I'm guessing if you have one device connected to the Internet you could share with other devices on network.

  • @daklakdigital3691
    @daklakdigital3691 ปีที่แล้ว

    I often work in the medium height mountaous area on the Laos/VietNam border. We have a solar powered string of LoRa units that stretch from our work camp (laser range) to BO-Y (KonTum Province) where we have a cell carrier Interface.
    We have also constructed 3 ethnic village interconnected LoRa communications systems. Not all residents can spell so they get their friends to type for them.
    Since a couple of the villages straddle the border line, communicators can also save on cell toll rates.

  • @The_Privateer
    @The_Privateer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think it's kind of funny that a lot of TH-cam HAMs are leery about giving away their location information (rightly so, IMO) but always feel obliged to announce call sign - which can be looked up on the FCC website for precise location information.

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a PO Box listed.

    • @ApocGuy
      @ApocGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HamRadioCrashCourse lucky you. in my country you cant get callsign without providing EXACT adress and until they do background check on you :(

  • @MadSativa
    @MadSativa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How do we use this for extending range on security devices? Such a those window/door open/close modules, motion detectors, etc? It is a pain to add 10 simplisafe or ring range extenders, and what if I want one connected to a gate 1/4 mile away or 5 gates miles away? This could possibly be game changing.

    • @starrychloe
      @starrychloe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those devices cannot pair and control a Bluetooth device, so it’s not possible. These appear to translate Bluetooth into LORA and back again.

    • @nicerperson1
      @nicerperson1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can imagine people are already working on this, go to the discord server and see who is doing what 😄

  • @BobJoe64862
    @BobJoe64862 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A part two video would be great. Maybe with some of the updated firmware features and additional compatible devices now on the market.

  • @suzannehartmann946
    @suzannehartmann946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an AMAZING way to get elementary kids into simple networking concepts especially LAN type. At first it will seem like a toy to them. But you can add concepts and they will be into a network of people who can expand their interests into more concepts LIKE HAM radio or other aspects of computers! What an entry point to the hardware of computers and networks!

  • @Jody_VE5SAR
    @Jody_VE5SAR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think both your tablet and phone were both associated with the same device (node 954c), no? So the test message was sent just by bouncing through 954c, and not over LoRa. The fact that the T-Beam's both showed the message indicates they were paired though, so it did have a mesh, you just weren't passing your message over it.

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope. They were connected to their own tbeam.

    • @muhworld2227
      @muhworld2227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HamRadioCrashCourse How? I can't get my iPhone and Android to join the same channel.

  • @ryanb9395
    @ryanb9395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This seems to be similar functionality to the Garmin rhino 750, I have had these for a few generations and they are pretty nice. I use for hunting and can see my hunting partners on the map, as well as send short text messages to each other, and the normal 5watt radio transmissions.

  • @HamRadio2
    @HamRadio2 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well done. These steps still work today...

  • @carsonc1272
    @carsonc1272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It took me a minute to realize how I could use this but now that I get it the ideas are flowing.

  • @circuitdotlt
    @circuitdotlt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a newcomer, main questions I have:
    Range?
    Data rate?
    Voice capability??

    • @SD-unlimited
      @SD-unlimited 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also very interested in the range from one unit to another. At 10:35 - 10:45 he loosely mentions “a couple kilometers”.

    • @djpitr
      @djpitr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Record with LoRa is 700km it’s all bout the antenna and the surroundings

  • @obviouslytwo4u
    @obviouslytwo4u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I literally have no use for this but for some reason I feel like trying to find a use for it

  • @ozairakhtarcom
    @ozairakhtarcom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Josh, I am new here. Though, I guess I had seen your videos in the past but this time I have subscribed to your Channel to stay up to date with your videos.
    I am not a Network Professional but freek about learning all about it. I'm from Karachi city of Pakistan and the Internet has never been good at all.
    1. My interest is to establish a Mesh Internet Service in my local area starting up from my street and then see where it goes.
    2. This LoRa is something I was looking to establish since 2001 when I was just 11 years kid :) I wish I will learn it from you.
    3. How to secure any communication network and which Network is the easiest one to establish and can be made secure easily.
    Thanks

  • @emmettturner9452
    @emmettturner9452 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is exactly what I wanted to deploy at a particular flea market with no cellular service so that we could split up and still send pictures, messages, locations, etc to each other.

  • @BrianPyeatt
    @BrianPyeatt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes it works with solar charging and everything it also works as a node for ATAk ....
    The down under guys have been working with us for a while there's lots of better antennas available dipoles etc to help improve range a couple different yogis etc

    • @user-dm1tv6nl2e
      @user-dm1tv6nl2e 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ATAC?

    • @victorygarden556
      @victorygarden556 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you know of any antennas or antenna criteria beyond dipole that work better for this please send a reply comment

    • @jasonpearson1555
      @jasonpearson1555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Following please send😂😅

  • @mikesimms3380
    @mikesimms3380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been looking for something like this for communication at large events. My company caters large concerts, where internet access disappears as guests arrive. Coachella will have over 100,000 attendees in the desert, and it's known for zero bandwidth. When one of my booths needs a resupply of...anything, I need to see what they need, and with multiple soundstages, and acts at full volume, it's hard to hear over a walkie talkie. This would work great!

  • @SMShannon55
    @SMShannon55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am interested in using a pair of these to track amateur rockets in flight, during descent under parachute, and once the rocket has landed. I’m following your channel and @Andreas Spiess for information. Thanks for your work!

  • @radionbikeprepper
    @radionbikeprepper 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. I would like to try this in the future for my OFF-GRID activities.

  • @Only_Sleep
    @Only_Sleep 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “that would give away my location”
    Isn’t your call sign, that you have publicly available on discord, tied to your address?

    • @cdorcey1735
      @cdorcey1735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's the address that the FCC can send official communications to. Not necessarily where he currently lives.

  • @jehster
    @jehster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interesting. Any idea what kind of bandwidth they'll support between nodes?

    • @ihatesignupsgrrrrrrr
      @ihatesignupsgrrrrrrr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It sounds very low bandwidth, but I too was hoping to hear this info :/

    • @DJ_Megahertz
      @DJ_Megahertz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very little. Just enough to send a few messages.

  • @antonyiodice5351
    @antonyiodice5351 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome to see this taking off

  • @davetaylor2088
    @davetaylor2088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting, thanks mate. I work in emergency management and would be very interested if this sort of device is resilient to hazards. Watch this space I guess.