Should You Upgrade from your DDJ-SX3 to DDJ-1000 SRT? 3 Reasons why you may Not Want to
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2019
- As I reviewed all the information on the newly released DDJ-1000SRT, it got me thinking, after the hype has down died down, should you upgrade if you own the DDJ-SX3 or DDJ-SX2? My Thoughts
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This was the best realistic review. I'm going to hold on to my 1000 rekordbox. Great videos
You are right in all aspects, but those jog wheels man .... laaawd have mercy!
Thank you for the comparison of the two models peace brother Terry
Interesting overview , i'm probably never going to own one, but I like to hear the less commonly talked about features or omissions on equipment , keep up the good work !
Very good review! I have a DDJ-sx2 and keeping it for a while
Thank You
I know this is an older video. I have a Numark Mixtrack Pro 3 but I needed something better to be more creative so I ordered the SX3 today for my Birthday.
This vid helped me decide which way to go, thanks a lot
Great Video! Practical and useful content. Thanks for this comparison video. I am one of the dj's that sold my DDJ-SX2 to upgrade to the DDJ-SX3 not too long ago and NOWWW Pioneer decides to finally drop this DDJ-1000SRT. I'll stick with my DDJ-SX3 and just wait and see what happens with Pioneer. Like someone commented below... I too feel these full size jog wheels will make their way onto more Pioneer DJ controllers
What's Cleveland. Thank you so much for this video. I was debating between these controllers. Being I come from turntables & effects etc, the SX3 makes sense. Never used CDJ controller, but the 1000SRT does not make sense for me, appears more complicated. You saved me cash. Now I can probably get a bundle to include case & still have a good deal. Thanks, love your videos...
We need more people like you , where your not trying to sell anything , real talk , unless we have big pockets we can buy anything new its throw at us
Just to let you known you're the dude. I enjoy your videos, very informative. always been interested in becoming a DJ, tried it when I was in my 20's, but I was all over the place(smile). Now I'm in my early 60's a little more settled & relaxed and I'd like to try it again. I've been collecting equipment the last few yrs I went kind of large starting out with the roland DJ 808, a lot to handle, but not bad to learn on. I'm a more direction book reading person first & then hands on. Now back to you & your videos. I always tend to walk away with a little more knowledge about when or when not to upgrade. I like how you don't jump around when it comes to you doing a video on comparing two pieces of equipment that are branded by the same name( pioneer, denon). you always go over from the top to the bottom about comparing the two, talking about the changes good or bad & if the new is any better then the previous model. so at this point I'm still looking to get that right DJ controller or mixer. Just keep doing a good job & I'll keep watching.
Great content on your channel. Please do a video comparing the overall sound quality output of Pioneer versus Denon. I’m not so tech with sound cards, and would appreciate a video! Thank you.
Great vid. Really helped me make a decision.
These missing features just means this device was never meant to be used with Serato. Serato begged Pioneer for this device and they threw them a bone
I agree wholeheartedly. 💯
Agree'd. Pioneer did not want to make this board, they did it under pressure. SX3 (or 2) for the win.
🙆🙆🙆🙆😂😂😂😂😂I believe you
Someone told me they heard pioneer was coming out with a controller much like the 1000 srt where the mixer section will be set up like s9... I’m not sure if he knows what he’s talking about or not but I’d like to see that.
@@jmoak311 lol I expect anything from pioneer
Thanks bro much appreciated you definitely help me with my decision
Great info. You answered many questions I had. I am on am SX2 and just love it. I use 1 effect at a time if I use effects. They aren't my thing really. I wish an all in one designed like Rane 12 motorized decks with real slip mats and option to place a real record even for looks would be the best yet. Keep the similar design of the 1000 and keep the price to $2 grand or less if possible. Add the effects and flip firect access features and sit back and watch that board sell. But, I learned how to scratch with tape cassettes as a kid on my own contraption I made from other people's trash and garage sale finds. You helped me decide to save my pennies and go for the 1000. I use VDJ 2021 with stems option. So Piomeer's software would be a nice change and fun to learn.
Keep up the great work.
Very valid points. At home I use the CDJ & DJM Nexus 2 setup plugged into Serato. I use this setup because it’s the standard club kit at clubs and lounges in the area. With this controller I’m thinking about selling all of the Nexus units (CDJ 2000 NXS2, DJM 900 NXS2 and the DJS 1000) while the values are still high and using this controller.
C Sanchez not a bad idea
Great information!!! Definitely personal decision based. I love my FX and sx3
Great review thanks for the video 👊🏽
+James Joseph 🙏🏾
I just picked this up. Personal opinion, having worked primarily on DJM900NXS and CDJ 2000 at the clubs I DJ at, this is definitely a God send for me. The lay out of DDJ 1000SRT is so close to what I am used to working with the equipment at the clubs I DJ at.
+lordtrader it’s a great board.
I have a ddj-sx3 and it work well with virtual DJ. I see no need for an update.
Thanks for sharing your information.
Wait what, it does? been trying to configure mine for video mixing but it aint working properly.
Yes. And video is included with VDJ. VDJ2020 is getting excellent reviews btw
Great honest review.
Great video man, you weighed out all the options. I was set on making a move up from my SX2 to get the SRT1000 until you pointed out the clear things it’s missing. I just need Pioneer to come out with an SX4 that is basically a smaller SZ2 while still keeping the weighted CDJ platters. If that came out I think it would quickly shoot up to be their most popular and wildly used controller. But it would probably end up being $1799 retail🥴
I agree with you Brenton. This video pointed out the features we'd lose from our SX2. The sad part is the distributer sales people won't enlighten you on the differences just to make a Sale. SX4?? Now that would be interesting.
Great info the only thing I will say is that,if you plan on playing at different venues and want to get use to something similar to the standard then the 1000 is almost like having a club Standard setup,now if your just a mobile dj I would stay with the sx2 or 3 in my opinion
Coming from a SR2, it was an upgrade for me. I love it. 👌
Thank you so much for this comparison! I was not sure of whether I should get the DDJ-SX3 because it has total kill EQ and it comes with a few expansion packs or the DDJ 1000-SRT because of the jog wheels and scratching is important to me, but after watching this video, I'm confident that I made the right choice. Thanks again!
You’re welcome
just got the 1000srt last Friday, I'm happy with it, no malfunctions. still gonna keep my SX3 for a back up.
+Chicago Latin DJs nice. I'm sure you'll love it!
i´m 100% with you.. i´ve got both and i miss the possibility to switch very fast to built beat loops under 2 beats with one hand and intern sync with pitching for effective and huge transitions may from 128bpm down under 100bpm. It takes time to get the speed back, but the srt is a beast and i love it! I also got the new xp2, but it is to big and overdrived.. the Sp1 to the SRT will be the combination
Great video!
Liked how you break it down, Sounds picky, complicated, I keep it simple and remain with the Hercules 4 mx, until upgrade is necessary, when it calls Yes upgrading to a Pioneer is an answer. Keep making Vids Loco
Great video. You are correct. This is perfect for rekordbox. I found it silly for them to release this instead of just updated the firmware on the ddj1000. But I guess it is a Corportaion thing and of course more money for Serato. Lol
i loveee your videos man
Peace bro, thx for the shout out... it's all good.
Here's my view on what i personally would like to see. An SX controller with the display in the jog wheels. The wheels don't need to be the full CDJ size but maybe an inch bigger with the traditional 'serato layout' with the effects to the top would be nice.
+Mezziah Trinzi agreed. That’s all I ever wanted on my SX
More gig logs please👌🏽👊🏾
debated for a long time between the SX3 and SRT, cause I needed to update the only 4 chan controller I have the original SX..went with the SRT..figured flip controls I can midi map..serato effects I purchased a SP1 to control those the only thing that sucks is the serato effects won't be post fader..but I am looking forward to the jog wheels for sure.
Great review Cleveland,am fine with my sx3,I love using the izotope effects during my mixes. The only problem I has is my jog wheels are easily scratched,I would like to know what material you use to clean your sx2?
Just picked this up and honestly the dual mic 3 master out and dual laptop with the 300 bucks of extra serato shenanigans makes it worth the extra 100
lack of SeratoFX & Flip isnt an issue for me. I have an Akai AFX for that.
But what i RLY wish they would have ported from the 900nxs is the eq on the built-in fx..
oh well.. still preordered 🥶
I love my SX3, specially the sound effects
👍🏼you got another subscriber!!
Julio Riquelme welcome!
I still have the original sx and was thinking about upgrading to the 1000 srt.
same
I also keep this considered in the price. The first limited batch of these will be bundled with Serato DJ Suite which is a $300 value. This unit costs only $100 more than the Rekordbox DDJ-1000, but comes with $300 worth of Serato software. Not saying this is a deal breaker, but I think it's something to be considered in the price. And the Serato DJ Suite is a voucher, and not simple a device activation. So that means you can activate your laptop with it and take it to any device.
Pri yon Joni That's definitely a great deal...but that's only good for people who buy now. After the deal, it's just going to cost more. Out of curiosity, which software do you find yourself using more? Rekordbox or Serato?
@@ClevelandTerry I'm still using Serato, and I may be getting an SRT. But at some point I plan on switching to Rekordbox. Since I scratch a lot, I like how it sounds way better than Serato.
CT - Great video as others have attested to. A few DJ's posted they like to have a back-up controller. Is it because of durability and reliability of existing products? Or primarily for technical glitches when shit happens? I've had my SX2 for 2 years and if the lifespan of the average controller is < 5 years then I'll have look out for the next best thing.
Just pulled the trigger and bought it.. i'm returning my unopened SX3 because of the lemon reviews. i'm upgrading from a vestax itch so anything is better but pray for me none the less.
Do a review on the ddj 300
You can layer the 4 colour effects over the other built in effects.. who needs loads of effects anyway
Lots of people. 🤷🏾♂️. Not me, but a lot do
Im a simple man... All I want is
Pioneer's Standalone FX section
Serato compatible (I have Pro but I only use two effects the echo(That's where the Pioneer FX echo comes in) and echo out).
The rest of the DDJ1000 is perfect.
im buying this next week just for the FX section/4channels and Serato capability...
the rest of the features are bonuses.
im coming from a Numark mixtrack 3 Platinum... So its a huge upgrade for me.
Cleveland u nailed it again. Pioneer definitely went the lazier route and ignored key serato features just to avoid creating an actual new model for production purposes. I did see in a video by discjockeynews I believe that they spoke with a pioneer rep and serato was the ones who wanted the wave forms eliminated in order to match the serato deck. But the EFX knobs should have had a pad EFX replacement, they did it in the SB3 why couldn’t they have done it in the 1000. Another issue I have is the looping I find it clunky compared to the way the SX2/3 has it. I won’t be upgrading my SX2 I’ll be waiting for a SZ3
CueTheDJTips agreed, looping is atrocious here
awesome review men..but that controller also compatible for a virtual 8 also..
Yes.
thanks Terry, dj discOworm
The way I see it is if you went and jumped shipped to different software just for that board of course we are going to buy it and stay within the same software. And I never use the effects anyways.
Do you recommend using an external mixer/board (like a mackie, yamaha etc) for the DDJ 1000 SRT? For mobile gigs...
Thanks for uploading this review, it was a truthful and honest comparison between two amazing controller decks, but I think I am gonna go with the "DDJ-SX3), I rather like the sound affects flexibility over the "SRT-1000"..Great review bruh!!!!!!!
I am still on the original DDJ SX. If I upgrade to the DDJ 1000SRT I will midi map my echo out fx to the "quatize" button. I never use sync and have no need for quantize. I will also midi map some better looping functions. After that it would work for me. The thing that sucks is the Serato FX are not post fader. Pioneer were assholes for that one... Only reason I would upgrade to this is for the jog wheels and cross fader. I like scratching and playing with doubles.
Honestly only getting it for the jog wheels, crossfader, 2mics and Serato use.
DJ Crank same here. I was goons get the ddj-sz but then I saw they released the ddj-1000 srt
Dont forget dual laptop
I have been using the SX2 for 2 years and thinking about an upgrade. Would you suggest selling the sx2 to recoup a little money and getting the 1000srt? Or just go for the 1000 and learn rekordbox since it is made for that program? I played with the reckordbox program a little with the DDJ 400 but I like serato better from what I have seen so far.
Crazy how it sold out at Expo. In the first hour of the first day. There were folks buying them 3 at a time.
Pri yon Joni I could not believe what I saw that Tuesday. Door was open at 12:10 and people had boxes in their hands ready to buy like at 12:15.
Pri yon Joni that's insane.
Ok help! I like the new jog wheels on the Pioneer DDJ 1000SRT but aren’t those the same size as those on the Pioneer DDJ SZ2? I had the SX2 and was just about to get either the SX3 or SZ2 until the 1000SRT came out. I’m more of a turntablist but I do love a great controller, and the SX2 was a fave. Please advise! Thanks!
There really needs to be a Pioneer DDJ-800SRT for those of us who use Serato and have no use for 4 channels, I do not want to pay the extra money for 2 channels I would never use and the extra size 4 channels require does not appeal as it makes the unit less portable. If Pioneer can make a 1000SRT it probably would not be difficult to produce the 800 Serato version and offer a wider product range.
I really miss the slicer. I am not a fan of beat jump. The problem is that you have to select the slicer from the pad fx drop down. Can you explain how to make this permanent?
Exactly
So I have a sx3 using serato but I'm looking at the DDJ-1000 with record box would this review still remain pretty relevant? I am going to keep my sx3 but wanted the Redbox on the DJ 1000 just because I know clubs and whatnot use record box cdjs and be easier to transfer music and I like the board in general but you hit the spot on the transitions I do use some effects but not a lot. So in the end I would still use both boards with that being said would it be worth it to upgrade to the DJ 1000 Redbox edition. Sorry about all the questions I asked there was just so many questions I couldn't read them all
As long as you can still mix songs and rock a party than you're good.
Davin Patton exactly!
So for someone like myself who’s been using Numark forever and wants to upgrade and also switch to Pioneer would it be smart to go right to the DJ-1000SRT?The jog wheels are winning me over because I love to cut and size of the jog wheels makes sense.. the NS7 gives me a turntable feel that’s why love it so much and the the denon DJ prime was gonna be it but then this dropped.. do you have some pointers?
Its definitely a upgrade from the SX2 No complains so far besides the effects BS which i figured how to midi map everything... HIGHLY recommend the srt1000
Can you give me an idea about:DDJ RX or DDJ 800?thanks!
Great Stuff man keep up the good work! Love your channel! okay, need lil help here.. I purchased the original DDJ 1000.. after research and pioneer saying they will NOT DROP a Serato version, of course, they did! So now i am stuck wondering do i trade mine in for the Serato version.. i have all these Serato fanboys telling me that rekordbox is not industry standard and its crazy how many looks i get cause its not a Serato controller... I love the waveforms, and i actually got use to rekordbox.. but I am seriously considering trading it for the SRT.. Should I do that?? You can't use the PAD FX on the controller that are built in Serator correct?
Correct, pad effects will disappear. I stopped listening to people with what I personally use. If you like rekordbox, stick with rekordbox. As long as you keep serato on your computer you can still use serato mixers etc. I’m not moving over But your mileage may vary. If it’s JUST because people are haters, I would ignore it.
Upgraded from Nu mark nv2 to sx3
Solid on WHAT I LIKE TO CALL THE KISS RULE {KEEP IT SIMPE STUPID, }VERY INFORMATIVE MY SX2 GETS THE JOB DONE BETWEEN APPLE AND PIONEER I'M A SLAVE TO THE RHYTHM GEESH !!!
love the jogs - that's the main reason I'm thinking of buying it (I have the SX3). But VERY disappointed that there are no Flip buttons!! I use flips EVERYWHERE!! :( :( Can you map them to another button? And, if yes, will the button light up when Flip is engaged like it does on the SX3? Also very disappointed that there is no dedicated vinyl brake/stop knob!! :( :( It's on the Nexus CDJs so it SHOULD have been here too. Last, does anyone know if it will fit, specifically, in my DJC-SC5 Pioneer bag that all the DDJ-SX models do?
I UPGRADEDto the Serato Version From a ddj sb3
What if you have a DDJ SZ should you upgrade?
As an owner of an SX3 and DDJ 1000 (Rekordbox) ...I don't think it's worth upgrading, at least not at this stage of the game. Chances are Pioneer will start placing Jogs on all their new controllers. So holding out for another year or two isn't such a bad thing. Imagine an SZ3 with jogs? To me this particular move was a money grab. Now as a DDJ1000 owner...I do hope that there is a firmware that will be released and that it will open up the original 1000 for serato, lol. *crossing my fingers*
I purchased it for 1299 and it included an odyssey flight case and I’m hoping I get the full suite unlocked
Stephen Lozada good deal.
where did you purchase it from
@@WazzyTV chime in, where did you get the flight case AND controller for that price? Thanks
WOW, IT IS SO BIG
discoworm that’s what she said.
I'm debating if I should either keep my SX3 (use as a backup) and then buy the DDJ-1000 SRT or sell my SX3 to get the DDJ-1000 SRT. Whats a deal factor to me is the jog wheels. The effects I sometime use but still wondering if its worth keeping both.
DeeJay ReGg nothing wrong with having a backup.
What website do you go to buy these controllers?
How much bigger is it by inches
Smart dude.
If you already have the ddj sp1 you can use the serato effects.
DJ Outlandish key word: if.
If you have it, then its yet another piece to carry. A missed opportunity
For a turntablist, would the jog wheel feel better or a motorized controller like Numark?
Can't stand the capacitive jog wheels of the sx2.
It feels better than capacitive jogs, but nothing beats motorized platters
CT, I noticed my BPM drops or increases on the 1000 srt when I trigger loops. Is this a known issue or a setting thing? Please advice.
U forgot about the loop feature. No more autoloop
I have the DDJ-SX3, and I've used the DDJ-1000SRT. Not a huge fan of the SRT. I prefer the feel of function of the SX3. As a Mixxx user, I very much prefer to use Mixxx effects, and it looks like down the road we're going to be able to use effects VST's, so I can use my favourite delay, eq VST's.
I'm not a fan of the 1000SRT's jog wheels.
Honestly, if you’re not copping a NXS setup from Pioneer it’s not a upgrade. I’m a Rane man myself tho 😁
Rane here too but I have a SX3 for simplicity
I’ve got the sx2 brought brand new four years ago...got some money last year and brought a brand New sx3 but the twist to the story is I kept the sx2....always think about having a backup ...
Was thinking the same if I was to buy the 1000 SRT. Use the SX3 as a backup
There is no reason for me to downgrade from sx2 to 1000srt
Where did you get that orange skin for the sx?🔥🔥🔥
It’s red and it’s a special edition, not a skin. It’s actually painted red from Pioneer.
My SX1 is starting to wear down. I’ve changed the Crossfader twice. So my debate is the sx3 or SRT.
+AICUTBOXXX either way you’ll be in a great position but I really do like the 1000.
I think the sx3 is the better choice when it comes to what u get for your money. The only thing the srt have is the feel of cdjs
Which controller and also firmware (rekordbox & Serato) can I get 16 hot cues other then 8. Please help and if not how can I obtain 16 hot cues what do I have to buy. Please help. Love ya videos btw too
dude thanks for this video... I've been racking my brain about this every since the announcement. And with that being said I think I'm gonna hold off.... $1300 just for jog wheels...nope...
Couldn’t you just add a remix station to make up for some of the features that are not on the unit ?
in the end the real difference is made by the software .. all 3 consoles work perfectly with Virtualdj 2020 where it is possible to reach a high level of customization
Not really, the 1000srt 'highjacks' the sound and the effects. I'm using the 1000srt for vdj 2020 and the trim levels and crossfader is controlled by the controller: you can't control those with the mouse, it's hardware based. So remapping the software effects to some buttons works but then the software effects will not be postfader. So you're kinda stuck with the hardware effects.
Wow, that was a very diplomatic way of saying you don't like this piece od ****! I applaud your integrity
Timothy Cook i think it was a great way to say that it was a missed opportunity
This was an excellent video. I said the same thing about the SRT. In my opinion if you like the 1000 you should get the Rekkordbox version. It was designed for Rekkordbox so you don't lose any functionality. Thanks again.
Get a used SP1... Problem Solved
@@chrisgrant3064 facts!
LLoyoc but the layout would be backwards as of rn =\ i think mojaxx mentioned
I stick with my SX2 (or upgrade to competition) until Pioneer reverts to class compliant/standard ASIO sound cards. There is absolutely no technical reason why they switched their high-end mixers and controllers to proprietary drivers. All competitor equivalents (notably Denon, Rane, Numark) could provide similar features with Audio/MIDI class compliant drivers.
So it means you spend 1 to 2K on a device that may become obsolete in 3 years because Pioneer won’t update their drivers for the latest OS which also affects the resale value dramatically.
Wait... what!??! O.o
@@kaibe5241 I forgot to mention that in contrary to SX2 the most recent controllers do not allow user replacement of the faders/xfader. You’ve got to be ready to trash your sx3 after a few years...
Fortunately Pioneer has reverted to class compliant in their S11/S7 mixers. I’d wait for their next gen controllers or go Rane One :)
@@alexandrosroussos whta about the 1000?
@@kaibe5241 non replaceable faders and I think it’s not class compliant either. The best way to check is to download the manual and check class compliance if using on the Mac requires drivers.
@@alexandrosroussos okay, cheers. I am literally tossing up between this and the Rane Ones right now. haha
Sx3. Costs: 888€
Ddj 1000: 1050€
Choose? For me is not iportant which software i will use. Pls help!!!
I went to look at both today at Guitar Center since it was hard to decide between the two. One thing that was immediately noticeable was the build quality the SX3 had a much more solid build compared to the 1000 SRT that just felt Plasticy somewhat toy like. So that helped me to decide on buying the SX3 over the 1000SRT. Just my Opinion !
You can always use the DDJ-SP1 with the DDJ-1000SRT. Pioneer DJ has shown the original DDJ-1000 with the DDJ-XP1...
djseasickbaby true, but the solution shouldn’t be to spend more money or have more gear to lug around.
@@ClevelandTerry It's extremely small compared to the two PLX-1000s, DJM-S9, and 3 Odyssey cases I carry around. And we both know how much that could hit your pockets, lol... It's really a controller design for DJs who are and want to dj in a club. So they can have something at home to practice with, instead of spending a lot more money on a CDJ/XDJ/DJM setup. It's like any technology today. It has its main use for what it's design for, but also, it can be use for X,Y, & Z.
I know I’m not. I had still have the first sx and just got the sx3 to upgrade so nah I’m good. From what I see the sx3 is still better.
What's the size difference between the 2 ?
Sx2 to sx3 is the same size