Actual DT 240 hubs have a seal between the hub bearings and the freehub body. I know because I destroyed it trying to reinstall one without the proper seal driver a couple months back. Edit: it appears they make their own hub body/shell, and are then using DT’s freehub.
@@Hambini Well, without seeing a DT OE Catalog, knowing that disc wheels aren’t sold in large quantities, plus LB’s proximity to less expensive (and often times as or more skilled labor) and the relatively low price, I certainly wouldn’t blame them or be surprised if they made their own shell.
How much to record a personal "morning alarm" message for my phone's alarm? Something along the lines of, "HELLO HAMBINI FAN, get up you lazy f******"! Just kidding.
I'll do that! The soundbite would have to start with about 1 second of silence to wake my Bluetooth speaker or it'll start halfway through the first word
I had just ordered this wheel a week ago, after being extremely happy with my AR565 that I had bought beginning of the year. Happy to hear they are good and reliable. Light Bicycle have extremely good customer service. The contact person I have responds very quickly indeed and always helpful and in perfect English. They also hold to their warranties/offers. I had a crash where a car went into me which destroyed my front wheel and they did hold to their crash replacement offer without further questions. Great Company, great products and good to see them doing well.
I'm four wheelsets in with LB, they're flawless, trivial to build up, fantastic swift communicators (in proper English), basically my default choice for far-East rims.
We used to use foam similar to this in some of our Formula SAE parts. It was called rohacell foam. It's a machinable aerospace foam for use in composite layups.
Same! Bought my LB gravel wheels back in 2020 I believe, and they've been on two bikes. I bought the ones with no spoke holes in the inner channel, so a true tubeless design (i.e. no rim tape). I spec'd DT Swiss hubs, bladed spokes, and they came out nice. About three years ago I had a rear derailleur sucked into the rear wheel's spokes, and I got it repaired locally just fine.
LIGHTBICYCLE are super legit. I have 3 pairs of wheels + a pair of carbon rims that was used to build a set of Track wheels. Great company all around. They even built a Track Wheelset with Carbon Spokes for me when I found Track hubs that were compatible with carbon spokes!!
Not in the market for disc wheels but as always an informative review and I learned why I must have been instinctively shying away from DTSwiss all these years! Fwiw one of the best chucks you can buy is Silca's 'Hiro' side locking lever. Highly recommend for anyone inflating tires on bikes - any bikes - any wheels. Enve has similar. (In fact I wasn't aware side locking chucks were a rare thing!)
Worth noting that the 9Velo hub looks like it was patterned of the DT Swiss 350 hub, which are very quiet. I also have a few DT Swiss 240 EXP hubs, they are all deliciously loud :D.
I’ve put 10k miles on LB AR56 with Carbon Ti hubs and they’ve been flawless. Ridden through the winter and haven’t needed to change the bearings yet either. 1485grams
AR56 are bomb proof, had mine for 4 years and they're still true. The last 2 years they've been on my gravel bike where I've battered them on single track and cross races.
The foam might be DIVINYCELL. It's usually tan in color but very rigid. Used in some surfboard and skimboard construction and I'm sure other applications.
With it not being super possible to make a disc wheel faster from shape to shape, would it be possibly doable to design a spoked wheel with a deep rim, to be faster, because you can actually mess with the shapes of the "spokes" and rim? Something like a tri-spoke in the rear, but mess with the shapes of the spokes and rim? I never was totally convinced the back wheel mattered a ton because the air is dirty by the time it gets there, but just curious. Pen me!
This may well be a stupid question - would dimpling the disc have any effect? In rotational drag? Or drag behind the bike? You have probably had this question on multiple times - if so, I apologise
I suspect that the Hubshell is not made from DT Swiss. I have never seen a machining of the center lock spline like that. DT always use a complete ring, and the Lightbicycle wheel has big cutouts. The freehub and ratchet parts look like DT Swiss parts.
Although I like and appreciate your reviews, I really miss the old Hambini, debunking aero and bike industry myths, which are back in a big way: claims that wide tires, narrow bars, turned in levers, etc. are 'faster', not to mention the new 'aero' frames (the 'kamtail' and massive tire clearances are everywhere now)! I would really love to hear your thoughts on these trends!
What about the lenticular shape (or semi lenticular shape?)...does this have a significant effect on aero? PT touched on this in his review of the 9velo disc wheel recently
about this vibration F plot: do you already have a video or can make a video going more into detail here? and does it help to have something like berd spokes to reduce losses due to vibration?
Hello Hambini I have a question regarding hookless vs hooked rims, and specifically regarding the whole push towards hookless All the information i have been able to find or answers from companies just sound like "blanket statements filled with buzzwords and no actual technical analysis as to why it is better" An article I rear from velo, the write goes on asking bunch of wheel companies that did the switch to hookless, and they all state the same (starting with cheaper price and lighter weight, which will obviously attract people that are obsessed with chasing those numbers) and that hookless has a stronger interface between the tire and rim. However, none say why that is the case, or how they tested that to be the case. Could you provide some enlightenment on the topic
@hambini I don’t quite get why you say that a disc is a disc and like a bric wall that you can’t change. Like curves/radius and texture, with of the inner and outer channels should make bigger differences?!
As weird as it may seem, some people seem to prefer a noisy freehub. I would like mine to be as silent as possible and I have considered filling them with heavy grease but I'm afraid it might cause them to slip in cold weather. It's especially annoying on my old Renn disc wheel (for tubular and with aluminium rim) as the wheel acts like a drum head and really amplifies the noise.
In tight group cycling (flat road territory) the loud freehubs serve as a warning that someone up ahead stopped pedaling, and riders use that for their safety. We're taught to keep pedaling even if we aren't applying power to not alert others around us. Only stop pedaling if there is the actual possibility of have to do some emergency slowing/stopping/steering.
@@jimhize i;m a little confused because of how youtube identifies replying. can you expand a little on your answer and to who it was actually targeted?
You answered your own question by saying: "It sounds like a drum.". So you have an amplifying carbon speaker right and left. That makes every hub loud. Imagine a Chris King hub in this disc wheel. 🤦♂️🤭 Most deep section wheels are also ring-shaped speakers... woush-woush when pedalling and krkrkrkr while freewheeling.
Yikes! Slicing up a solid disc wheel when a good borescope camera would have sufficed. Besides proceed from selling the wheel could have helped pay trade school tuition for a young hairdresser 😉
Man, i just watched the bearing puller/hit it with things video. So you were wrong. So a normal dude would have acknowledged it's impossible to know everything and maybe let us who are trying to learn stuff know about it as well. Would have make for an intresting and informative video. But you didnt choose this option and now every one of you videos falls under the same suspicion. What other shuff have you taught me wrong? F*cking thanks a lot for that.
@rollinrat4850 good read, couldnt have said it better. Used to race and to top fast guys where usually on 3-5yr old bikes with wheels they rode to track on and everyday. I had a set of base model shimano wheels with wire bead tyres for everyday and training for a big weekend, come weekend in go DA C24 clincher and holy crap what a difference it made. Nothing will change while these cashed up sheep that watch and listen to GCN & David Arthur keep buying this crap
Just even if someone licenced the ratchet from dt swiss, doesn't mean its dt swiss hub. If mr Hambini never even seen a dt hud, im strarting wondering. They have the seal hes tlkei g about they dont have.. And the sound is not real at all.. The rest i wont get i to.
More free kit sent direct from the factory to Hambini towers, triple QC checked and ready for a review. Customer sends in frame as its has a problem, and it's always 💩?? Never user error or neglect it's the manufacture don't you know🤔🤔
@@Hambinihad my AR56 for 4 years now, 2 years on the road bike doing road races and 2 years on the gravel bike with some cross races. Very fast and still run true, astonishing wheels.
Now you've lost it. Complaining about the serviceability of dt hubs. Im probably double your weight and factually ride my bikes. Haven't ever had a problem with the bearings in a dt hub they just work. In my nearly two decades of experience as a professional bike mechanic I have only once seen this bearing worn out. And yes you need tools and know how to do it just like for about every thing else. But this sort of thing needs to be done never or maybe at about 100k miles.
If you don't know light bicycle, you probably aren't very familiar with carbon wheels. They are an industry leader in quality right now. And no, i don't own one or work for them.
I've had mine for almost four years after seeing a set on another bike. Dude, do you only follow the brands put in front of you by advertisers and teams, lol? You probably watch the television for your "News" as well.
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Actual DT 240 hubs have a seal between the hub bearings and the freehub body. I know because I destroyed it trying to reinstall one without the proper seal driver a couple months back.
Edit: it appears they make their own hub body/shell, and are then using DT’s freehub.
It's interesting that you discounted the theory that DT make the hub specifically for light bicycle.
They probably removed seal to decrease friction/increase speed.
hasnt there been some recent drama with LB wheels showing up with fakes of DT hubs with no labels or serial numbers?
@@Hambini Well, without seeing a DT OE Catalog, knowing that disc wheels aren’t sold in large quantities, plus LB’s proximity to less expensive (and often times as or more skilled labor) and the relatively low price, I certainly wouldn’t blame them or be surprised if they made their own shell.
@@krpajda IF they're paying DT to make them, DT doesn't have to do anything to the hubs that they're not paid to do
How much to record a personal "morning alarm" message for my phone's alarm? Something along the lines of, "HELLO HAMBINI FAN, get up you lazy f******"!
Just kidding.
You can have it for free but you need to video it so we can get it as a short.
I'll do that! The soundbite would have to start with about 1 second of silence to wake my Bluetooth speaker or it'll start halfway through the first word
I had just ordered this wheel a week ago, after being extremely happy with my AR565 that I had bought beginning of the year. Happy to hear they are good and reliable. Light Bicycle have extremely good customer service. The contact person I have responds very quickly indeed and always helpful and in perfect English. They also hold to their warranties/offers. I had a crash where a car went into me which destroyed my front wheel and they did hold to their crash replacement offer without further questions. Great Company, great products and good to see them doing well.
Also very much enjoying my AR565s.
Good to hear. How much did you pay?
@@pierrex3226 For which? The Disc Wheel, The AR565 Rims or the Crash Replacement RIm?
Have bought gravel rims previously and now a gravel wheel from LB. Customer service is A+ and the products have been ace. Recommended
My only complaint after owning a few sets of LB wheels is the abysmal resale value.
I'm four wheelsets in with LB, they're flawless, trivial to build up, fantastic swift communicators (in proper English), basically my default choice for far-East rims.
I have 2 pairs of Light Bicycle rims (AR46) and I love them! So great that they included a great silca valve adaptor with the disc they sent you!
We used to use foam similar to this in some of our Formula SAE parts. It was called rohacell foam. It's a machinable aerospace foam for use in composite layups.
Good 'ol Sunday morning. When you're sitting on the ensuite loo and the misses wonders what you're watching when 'HELLO HAMBINI FANS' blasts out!
Exact same!
Have bought gravel rims and now a gravel wheel from LB. Customer service is A+ and the products have been ace. Recomended
Same! Bought my LB gravel wheels back in 2020 I believe, and they've been on two bikes. I bought the ones with no spoke holes in the inner channel, so a true tubeless design (i.e. no rim tape). I spec'd DT Swiss hubs, bladed spokes, and they came out nice. About three years ago I had a rear derailleur sucked into the rear wheel's spokes, and I got it repaired locally just fine.
Hindsight is truly a wonderful thing
It avoids tinnitus
LIGHTBICYCLE are super legit. I have 3 pairs of wheels + a pair of carbon rims that was used to build a set of Track wheels. Great company all around. They even built a Track Wheelset with Carbon Spokes for me when I found Track hubs that were compatible with carbon spokes!!
Which track hub did you find compatible with carbon spokes?
Thanks for the headphone warning, always appreciated! Let us know how the warranty claim goes ;-)
Not in the market for disc wheels but as always an informative review and I learned why I must have been instinctively shying away from DTSwiss all these years!
Fwiw one of the best chucks you can buy is Silca's 'Hiro' side locking lever. Highly recommend for anyone inflating tires on bikes - any bikes - any wheels.
Enve has similar. (In fact I wasn't aware side locking chucks were a rare thing!)
I learned the super-loud greetings the hard way, and I was ready this time with volume on 1.
Non-related News: Colnago has just released their C68 in rim brakes version . . . YESSSSSSS!
They knew
For all 10 people that want still want to buy one.
With a frame that's somehow heavier than the discbrake version!
@@thomasparkins6749 in a world that is killing our rim brakes, anything will do
Worth noting that the 9Velo hub looks like it was patterned of the DT Swiss 350 hub, which are very quiet. I also have a few DT Swiss 240 EXP hubs, they are all deliciously loud :D.
I'm back simply because I love expletives, lol, You are looking younger than two or three years ago, some magic s**t going on!
I’ve put 10k miles on LB AR56 with Carbon Ti hubs and they’ve been flawless. Ridden through the winter and haven’t needed to change the bearings yet either. 1485grams
AR56 are bomb proof, had mine for 4 years and they're still true. The last 2 years they've been on my gravel bike where I've battered them on single track and cross races.
Compliance uber alles - this Noise Warning is pure gold :)
I am a simple man. I see LightBicycle. I hit like.
I have never actually ridden a TT bike. And yet I watched this. It's alarming (not the video, the fact I watched it)
Watch that carbon dust. Very dangerous stuff - probably as much as asbestos. Vacuum the dust with a HEPA filtered vacuum too.
Good video
I just use a fan that directs it to my neighbors.
The foam might be DIVINYCELL. It's usually tan in color but very rigid. Used in some surfboard and skimboard construction and I'm sure other applications.
If you'd attach huge dome shaped resonator to 9velo hub it also would sound like a bomb timer in movies.
Tjank you, Hanbini
To be added to "The good":
Finally showed the environment in Hambini Research Institute...
Hi Hambini, what are your thinking thoughts about the Fovno 60T Ratchet for DT Swiss Hubs?
With it not being super possible to make a disc wheel faster from shape to shape, would it be possibly doable to design a spoked wheel with a deep rim, to be faster, because you can actually mess with the shapes of the "spokes" and rim? Something like a tri-spoke in the rear, but mess with the shapes of the spokes and rim? I never was totally convinced the back wheel mattered a ton because the air is dirty by the time it gets there, but just curious. Pen me!
Surprised you didn’t take more precautions with the carbon dust
The foam is prob rohacell, it's used in alot carbon parts.
I have a repaired Mavic Comete track disc (cost me £300), which needed balancing. All that was needed was to tape on a 2 p piece.👍
The best warning ever. Fight me over it...
This may well be a stupid question - would dimpling the disc have any effect? In rotational drag? Or drag behind the bike? You have probably had this question on multiple times - if so, I apologise
Legends has it , the showels, in the background, are to burry shi**y brands reputations!
I suspect that the Hubshell is not made from DT Swiss. I have never seen a machining of the center lock spline like that. DT always use a complete ring, and the Lightbicycle wheel has big cutouts. The freehub and ratchet parts look like DT Swiss parts.
Although I like and appreciate your reviews, I really miss the old Hambini, debunking aero and bike industry myths, which are back in a big way: claims that wide tires, narrow bars, turned in levers, etc. are 'faster', not to mention the new 'aero' frames (the 'kamtail' and massive tire clearances are everywhere now)! I would really love to hear your thoughts on these trends!
Fred west's vest
Does this and/or the 9velo rear disc make the woosh noise like other solid disc wheels? (Zipp/Enve/etc)
What about the lenticular shape (or semi lenticular shape?)...does this have a significant effect on aero? PT touched on this in his review of the 9velo disc wheel recently
Thank made me wake up.
Was gonna stay that 'woke' me up but it sounded iffy.
The volume warning at the start
My alarm in the morning: HELLO HAMBINI FANS.
Works every time.
about this vibration F plot: do you already have a video or can make a video going more into detail here? and does it help to have something like berd spokes to reduce losses due to vibration?
I might get one.
Hello Hambini
I have a question regarding hookless vs hooked rims, and specifically regarding the whole push towards hookless
All the information i have been able to find or answers from companies just sound like "blanket statements filled with buzzwords and no actual technical analysis as to why it is better"
An article I rear from velo, the write goes on asking bunch of wheel companies that did the switch to hookless, and they all state the same (starting with cheaper price and lighter weight, which will obviously attract people that are obsessed with chasing those numbers) and that hookless has a stronger interface between the tire and rim. However, none say why that is the case, or how they tested that to be the case.
Could you provide some enlightenment on the topic
Cool, now can you put it back together and make it a giveaway😅😅😅
He said he uses duct tape. So yes!😂
@hambini I don’t quite get why you say that a disc is a disc and like a bric wall that you can’t change. Like curves/radius and texture, with of the inner and outer channels should make bigger differences?!
The core comes in different density"s soft to some as dence as wood.
I wonder if you could run a shorter tubeless valve and it would be easier to get a pump on.
wind will push you off the road with this haha
So will a truck
I cried a little when you cut it up, 😭
1500 USD is ok value, elite do something similar for half that
As weird as it may seem, some people seem to prefer a noisy freehub. I would like mine to be as silent as possible and I have considered filling them with heavy grease but I'm afraid it might cause them to slip in cold weather. It's especially annoying on my old Renn disc wheel (for tubular and with aluminium rim) as the wheel acts like a drum head and really amplifies the noise.
Indeed there's some of us that want them super extra banging loud : )
In tight group cycling (flat road territory) the loud freehubs serve as a warning that someone up ahead stopped pedaling, and riders use that for their safety. We're taught to keep pedaling even if we aren't applying power to not alert others around us. Only stop pedaling if there is the actual possibility of have to do some emergency slowing/stopping/steering.
@@workingguy-OU812 I always train alone, but that's some very useful group mechanism indeed, thanks for letting us know
If you’re coasting a lot in a TT, either you’re on a sporting course or you’ve missed the point of the time trial
@@jimhize i;m a little confused because of how youtube identifies replying. can you expand a little on your answer and to who it was actually targeted?
Watching this one the toilet to keep my pants from going brown
So what disc wheel of the following 3 would you buy? 9Velo, Farsports or this Lightbicycle?
9 Velo
@@Hambini Thanks! Combined with a 3-spoke from Farsports or is the Lightbicycle one any better (9velo does no have one at the moment)?
You're daily commuter wheels 😂
Wake up at 0230 and find a new vid up. Hope you get my emails about the Comeplay ti gravel fork. It’s a hot mess and I would love to send it to you.
Would like to hear whats going on with your fork. I have a pair of custom bars I'm sending back to them tomorrow to have some wonkiness corrected....
@@nicrioux6356 it’s all bad. It would require a video to show.
You answered your own question by saying: "It sounds like a drum.".
So you have an amplifying carbon speaker right and left. That makes every hub loud. Imagine a Chris King hub in this disc wheel. 🤦♂️🤭
Most deep section wheels are also ring-shaped speakers... woush-woush when pedalling and krkrkrkr while freewheeling.
Regardless of the performance, they still look wicked propped up outside the hair salon.
I thought it would be full of foam?
A brick wall isn’t really that aero is it?
I always turn the volume way down before clicking on a Hambini video
A gigantic pizza cutter!
The speed going sideways must be impressive if you take a route over the moors, 😂😂😂
the foam is a good idea, lighter and stronger.
Yikes! Slicing up a solid disc wheel when a good borescope camera would have sufficed. Besides proceed from selling the wheel could have helped pay trade school tuition for a young hairdresser 😉
It was so silent for the first 10 minutes.
Then the sound slowly came back.
Or was that just me. Are my headphones borken?
Are we saying all the aerocoach disc wheel claims about their shape are all BS as well?
well... At this moment in time, I wouldn't say they were a credible company. www.hambini.com/aerocoach-aeox-titan-wheel-failure/
The problem with disc wheels like this is that they’re not really any faster than covering your wheel with $6 of plastic sheet from Michael’s
Man, i just watched the bearing puller/hit it with things video. So you were wrong. So a normal dude would have acknowledged it's impossible to know everything and maybe let us who are trying to learn stuff know about it as well. Would have make for an intresting and informative video. But you didnt choose this option and now every one of you videos falls under the same suspicion. What other shuff have you taught me wrong? F*cking thanks a lot for that.
I'm too old for disc wheels.
Never understand the hype and mega price tag on lightweight wheels, just foam wrapped in carbon
@rollinrat4850 good read, couldnt have said it better. Used to race and to top fast guys where usually on 3-5yr old bikes with wheels they rode to track on and everyday. I had a set of base model shimano wheels with wire bead tyres for everyday and training for a big weekend, come weekend in go DA C24 clincher and holy crap what a difference it made. Nothing will change while these cashed up sheep that watch and listen to GCN & David Arthur keep buying this crap
None of my drums sound like that😊
Blown off course due to the wind!? Perhaps a bit more body building and less physical with your hair dresser!
Yes, was thinking the same too much cardio not enough weight lifting 😅😅😅
Just even if someone licenced the ratchet from dt swiss, doesn't mean its dt swiss hub. If mr Hambini never even seen a dt hud, im strarting wondering. They have the seal hes tlkei g about they dont have.. And the sound is not real at all.. The rest i wont get i to.
I liked the video but can I also go screw myself? Asking for a local hairdresser.
More free kit sent direct from the factory to Hambini towers, triple QC checked and ready for a review. Customer sends in frame as its has a problem, and it's always 💩?? Never user error or neglect it's the manufacture don't you know🤔🤔
Love you Benji
@@Hambini Love today, cage fight tomorrow, you just keep expressing yourself mate 😉🤣👍
@@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST we can have a love in, in the cage
@@Hambinihad my AR56 for 4 years now, 2 years on the road bike doing road races and 2 years on the gravel bike with some cross races. Very fast and still run true, astonishing wheels.
again hambini. every video i turn it up and get absolutely blasted
Once is random, twice is a pattern!
Now you've lost it. Complaining about the serviceability of dt hubs. Im probably double your weight and factually ride my bikes. Haven't ever had a problem with the bearings in a dt hub they just work. In my nearly two decades of experience as a professional bike mechanic I have only once seen this bearing worn out. And yes you need tools and know how to do it just like for about every thing else. But this sort of thing needs to be done never or maybe at about 100k miles.
This or 9Velo?
9Velo, the hub is superior.
Шо ты наделал 🥺
Oh ... sod it.
I have had high-end disc wheels for years, and none of mine look like your wheel. WTF? 5 year old breaking his toys.
.............wheel...........😅
Foktifokfok
hambini why are you crashing so much
I increased my power output quite fast
Another brand no one cares and knows…
If you don't know light bicycle, you probably aren't very familiar with carbon wheels. They are an industry leader in quality right now.
And no, i don't own one or work for them.
Yeah they’re pretty famous.
Get out of the "western" brand programming.
I've had mine for almost four years after seeing a set on another bike. Dude, do you only follow the brands put in front of you by advertisers and teams, lol? You probably watch the television for your "News" as well.
@hambini when you producing more BBs? Need that Hambini Racing BSA.