In my opinion last year was better. But probably because there had been more new, innovative products than this year. Most exhibition stand have been smaller, Logitech and Gomez haven´t been there. Fanatec was disappointing. Especially this ridcoulous gyro movement in the Bentley wheel. MHO.
Got mixed feelings to be honest. On the positive side it's been possible to see a lot of gear in real life for the first time and beeing able to compare stuff side by side. On the negative side for me the Expo been suffering of their own success as Saturday been too crowded. Already at 11am long queues everywhere. And most of the boots been too occupied to properly talk to the exhibitors. Closing the gates at 6pm already didn't really pay into spreading the visitors evenly across the day. But eventually I where able to test the equipment I've been eyeballing with on Sunday and got a really nice conversation with one of the students building the Student Champion ship racer located at the Asetek booth. By the way, the supplier to Sabelt developing the haptic feedback seat, "SenseIt!" also had a small booth down the aisle. They told me the seat may be offered by Sabelt somewhere in the area around 1200€.
The breakfast at the hotel and us all bundled up at that round table was the best part. Talking about anything and everything. Not that the other parts were bad, mind you. And the very special guests we had on our Podcast (which comes out tomorrow) were the best. Wonder if you know any of them...
Can confirm I am indeed pixelated, it’s very hard to see and that’s why I messed up our handshake like 50 times. Great to meet you, see you next year for sure :)
I also loved the P1 Mistral! I come from a T300 brake, so most of the loadcells at the expo felt like a total brick wall, I had no idea how much pressure I put in. But the P1's haptic motor game me a great feedback. Looked online and there's no proper review on them yet, would be great to see some experienced loadcell user looking into them soon. By the way, I went on Sunday and it was not half as packed as in the video. I tested more than 15 rigs with many different wheelbases and pedals and had almost no waiting time, always under 10 mins. You should come on Sundays lmao
I actually got to try one of the BavarianSimTec rigs, the steeringwheel felt great, and the rig was suprisingly comfortable for its size, even for me, being 1,92m. The Asetek invicta kit they had was also probably the best kit I ever tested, though the Simagic P2000 on the left rig at the Rennwelten booth might be better, depending on setup. It was a great experience for me, first time testing real high end stuff, first time on loadcell and hydraulic brakes, first time in motion rigs (though the Actoracer and Novus I tested did not impress me all that much, the one from the booth with the pneumatic cushions was way better, even if it didnt have the cushions). I'll definitely be going again next year, definitely on a Friday again.
Thanks for info on new sim racing products! One suggestion though - when doing this sort of video keep camera static or do very slow pans, so much rapid movement makes it’s more difficult to watch and follow what you are talking about
Fanatec stole the show when I was there it was all people were talking about. But the true haters who dont even support fanatec dont want to believe it. Trying to act like fanatec wheelbases just arent good yet the dd pro is the best 5 to 10nm wheelbase on the market except for the simagic but even those side by side are pretty much identical in feel and here we sre with a massive uplift in detail and strength with the dd/dd+ and its just next level good. Asetek and simucube level for sure. I suggest to get the dd+ guys its like the dd pro when you get the 8 it wss made for 8 and you can tell. Same thing for the dd and dd+ something anout the dd+ just feels bettter and its not even just the strength its the solid grip feel when cornering and even slightly finer details just a little more but its there. I think both are fantastic but I truely believe the fanatec dd+ is a massive game changer and when full force comes out idk what will actually be able to compete with it tbh.
I forgot about the event until it was too late so I went ahead and treated myself to an upgrade. G29 to CSL DD :) Bad time to buy though as Fanatec are having trouble with shipping at the moment.
The Bavarian SIM wheel felt great but the wheelbase and the brakes were horrible setup, it had like no force feedback and you really had to smash the brakes (I know they only sell the wheel but still). All the buttons felt great and had a lot of feedback(you felt it when you pressed the button)
A tip for the camera man: Hold it steady when you want to show something (which I assume is most of the time) and only move it when necessary in between. The constant movement is really disturbing to watch.
Would be nice to have titles underneath telling us which brand is being shown etc for each shot. We weren’t there so it’s just stuff for us without the information .
The consoles needs some more attention from the big players in my opinion. Logitech brought out the pro wheel and pedal and nothing since. Where are the new rims? Pro shifter? Maybe a Handbrake?
Wow I wish I could be there. Right now in Israel we have a war so I can’t fly to the expo but maybe next year! Also what are your favorite pedals for around 600 euros?
Well, Like I said in the vid, I lost a lot of time because of ATC strike and Friday would be great to have a look. Im not going to every booth to stay in lines as time is limited and I need to rationalise the use. Maybe next year, maybe not.
The Clubsport DD feels better than the Podium DD2? Now... you have to tell me a little more about that because that just smells marketing BS. Also are you comparing it with the Podium DD2 with QR1 or QR2?
Yay there’s competition between competitors… in every way but the only one that matters… price. For what it would take to buy a really good rig you could buy a rl vette… & that’s just bs.
Fogo não sabia que eras português vivo em paris e gosto de sim racing... fora o trabalho é o meu passatempo.... De onde és em Portugal? Podemos sempre trocar ideias nas férias quando vou a portugal se não viveres longe.... Os meus pais sao de bragança... Abraço
Man all these competing brands and uostart new companies giving the likes of fanatec and simucube stiff competition and at reasonable prices is e best things that coulda happened to sim racing gone are the days of paying over 1'000 US dollars for a basic direct drive base i literally just got my first DD a Moza R5 and have upgraded everything from that bundle except the base with a CS wheel CRP pedals a hgp shifter and hbp handbrake and a next level racing ws 2.0 its a absolute game changer when coming from a G29 and shifter like i did my question is how much better than this can it truly get i feel if i go up the ladder much more ill be well past the piint of diminishing returns my last upgrade will be a Moza R12 and ill be done for a very very long time amd give my son the R5 bundle
Tenho uma pergunta para fazer. Moro no Brasil e tenho um g920 a 3 anos. penso em fazer um upgrade em algum momento entre 2024 e 2025, o que me recomendaria como uma opção para substituir o meu Logitech? Adoro seus vídeos!@@randomcallsign
@@pedrodruzian5616 Cara nesse tempo todo que vc ficou com o g920 quais foram os pontos positivos e negativos que vc teve, além de queria saber se é uma boa opção pra alguém como eu que quer iniciar em simuladores, sempre joguei forza motorsport 7 e AC no controle, quero ir pro ACC e motorsport 2023
@@reginaldo8929 Mano, curto muito o G920, o ffb é ótimo, os pedais são bons TMB e é um produto confiável. Nesses 3 anos nunca me deu problema, apenas desgaste no couro, nós botões menores, que as vezes não são acionados no jogo, e o pedal que tem q abrir de vez em quando pra poder limpar, caso contrário, fica com mal contato nos sensores, mas um limpa contato e um vídeo no TH-cam, vc resolve rapidinho
@@reginaldo8929 Se vc tiver um Series S ou X, compensa ir pro acc mesmo, eu comprei qnd tava com meu One S, me serviu MT bem no Assetto Corsa, Project Cars 2, WRC e outros simuladores. Atualmente jogo no Pc, por conta dos outros simuladores disponíveis e por causa dos mods no AC1, muda da água pro vinho
What do you think about the simracing expo 2023? Did you go? Will be interested for next year?
Couldn’t go this year, but next year fire sure. 🚗😁
In my opinion last year was better. But probably because there had been more new, innovative products than this year. Most exhibition stand have been smaller, Logitech and Gomez haven´t been there. Fanatec was disappointing. Especially this ridcoulous gyro movement in the Bentley wheel. MHO.
I was there and it was nice to meet you in person! For me CSW DD and KW Automotive motion rigs was 2 best product on expo :)
I will have to live through you. Thanks for the video! 🙂
Got mixed feelings to be honest. On the positive side it's been possible to see a lot of gear in real life for the first time and beeing able to compare stuff side by side.
On the negative side for me the Expo been suffering of their own success as Saturday been too crowded. Already at 11am long queues everywhere. And most of the boots been too occupied to properly talk to the exhibitors.
Closing the gates at 6pm already didn't really pay into spreading the visitors evenly across the day.
But eventually I where able to test the equipment I've been eyeballing with on Sunday and got a really nice conversation with one of the students building the Student Champion ship racer located at the Asetek booth.
By the way, the supplier to Sabelt developing the haptic feedback seat, "SenseIt!" also had a small booth down the aisle. They told me the seat may be offered by Sabelt somewhere in the area around 1200€.
The breakfast at the hotel and us all bundled up at that round table was the best part. Talking about anything and everything.
Not that the other parts were bad, mind you. And the very special guests we had on our Podcast (which comes out tomorrow) were the best. Wonder if you know any of them...
Excellent summary! Thanks for sharing for those of us who couldn’t make it :)
Thank you. Come next year.
I take one thing away from all this: it’s a good time to be a simracer. So many good options, more affordable than ever.
MOM I'M IN THE VIDEO
Was amazing to meet you in person again and looking forward to next year!
Can confirm I am indeed pixelated, it’s very hard to see and that’s why I messed up our handshake like 50 times.
Great to meet you, see you next year for sure :)
Great coverage and im glad to hear HQ made it! That guy is sunshine and strength pure.
I just got into sim racing a few months ago, and I can tell that the community is passionate. Looks like a lot of fun!
You've honestly chosen the best time to get in to it. Only 5 years ago, there were only like 2 real beginner friendly options. Enjoy!
That was a greet recap of the expo! 💪 your final words mirror exactly the experience I had. It’s all about the people you meet and spend time with! 😍🤗
Well said!
Awesome vid man, and great seeing you again!
Thanks! You too!
Your video is an unending source of motivation! -- "Every setback carries a valuable lesson within.."
I also loved the P1 Mistral! I come from a T300 brake, so most of the loadcells at the expo felt like a total brick wall, I had no idea how much pressure I put in. But the P1's haptic motor game me a great feedback. Looked online and there's no proper review on them yet, would be great to see some experienced loadcell user looking into them soon.
By the way, I went on Sunday and it was not half as packed as in the video. I tested more than 15 rigs with many different wheelbases and pedals and had almost no waiting time, always under 10 mins. You should come on Sundays lmao
I did go. But I was so wrecked I just didn't bother 😂😂
Also, I should do the mistral review, but I have so much in my plate o won't be able to have a review before release.
@@randomcallsign lmao that's fair
Woah didn’t even know this existed nice to see the sim racing niche getting bigger
Been there since at least 2017 or 2018 (Then at the Nürburgring), at the same time as the SRO race.
Expo was amazing, and with so many people even Friday, it gave a very positive feeling!
Nice seeing you again, and very nice video!
happppppppppppyyyyyyyy
I actually got to try one of the BavarianSimTec rigs, the steeringwheel felt great, and the rig was suprisingly comfortable for its size, even for me, being 1,92m.
The Asetek invicta kit they had was also probably the best kit I ever tested, though the Simagic P2000 on the left rig at the Rennwelten booth might be better, depending on setup.
It was a great experience for me, first time testing real high end stuff, first time on loadcell and hydraulic brakes, first time in motion rigs (though the Actoracer and Novus I tested did not impress me all that much, the one from the booth with the pneumatic cushions was way better, even if it didnt have the cushions).
I'll definitely be going again next year, definitely on a Friday again.
Man the clubsport dd being better then the dd2 is a little heartbreaking. Hopefully the dd1 / dd2 get a update to make them feel similar.
its been a few years , 4 in total. things improve.
Great to hear, that you liked the Haptic Cushion!
Thanks for info on new sim racing products! One suggestion though - when doing this sort of video keep camera static or do very slow pans, so much rapid movement makes it’s more difficult to watch and follow what you are talking about
The coffee table one is genius wtf 🔥
I know, right?
Good to meet you finally at long last. Keep doing the awesome content as always
Thanks, you too!
When I first saw the coffee table rig I instantly fell in love. Happy to see that they're still cooking
I'm Brazilian, watch this channel for quite some time, knew the host is Portuguese, but the "Paixão" in his voice got me off-guard lol
Great video! thanks! captures the vibe of the Expo very well!
Jesus Christ, I didn't know this exhibition existed, I just found out in this random video 😂😂😂😂😂
Same here!!
Fanatec needs new pedals. Was hoping to see something on that.
soonTM (i think and I hope)
@@randomcallsign nice brother great coverage
Fanatec stole the show when I was there it was all people were talking about. But the true haters who dont even support fanatec dont want to believe it. Trying to act like fanatec wheelbases just arent good yet the dd pro is the best 5 to 10nm wheelbase on the market except for the simagic but even those side by side are pretty much identical in feel and here we sre with a massive uplift in detail and strength with the dd/dd+ and its just next level good. Asetek and simucube level for sure. I suggest to get the dd+ guys its like the dd pro when you get the 8 it wss made for 8 and you can tell. Same thing for the dd and dd+ something anout the dd+ just feels bettter and its not even just the strength its the solid grip feel when cornering and even slightly finer details just a little more but its there. I think both are fantastic but I truely believe the fanatec dd+ is a massive game changer and when full force comes out idk what will actually be able to compete with it tbh.
great coverage of the sim expo!
Thanks a lot!
Any more details about the sensory feedback back cushion that was at the Sabelt booth?
I forgot about the event until it was too late so I went ahead and treated myself to an upgrade. G29 to CSL DD :) Bad time to buy though as Fanatec are having trouble with shipping at the moment.
Yall see Dr House in the back around 20-25 seconds in ;)
The Bavarian SIM wheel felt great but the wheelbase and the brakes were horrible setup, it had like no force feedback and you really had to smash the brakes (I know they only sell the wheel but still). All the buttons felt great and had a lot of feedback(you felt it when you pressed the button)
I really want that coffee table thing !
Omg so many connections 😂 oc racing and rad weasel!! I find out he and oc kinda met as well through the OC Instagram. Ah so cool lez gooooo ❤🎉
I try to
😁@@randomcallsign ✨
A tip for the camera man: Hold it steady when you want to show something (which I assume is most of the time) and only move it when necessary in between. The constant movement is really disturbing to watch.
Aaargh, you caught me on iRacing at about 2m 40 😂 I'll never live it down....
Would be nice to have titles underneath telling us which brand is being shown etc for each shot. We weren’t there so it’s just stuff for us without the information .
The consoles needs some more attention from the big players in my opinion. Logitech brought out the pro wheel and pedal and nothing since. Where are the new rims? Pro shifter? Maybe a Handbrake?
Honestly, very nice way to wrap it up😁.
It was a great Event and there where a lot of very nice people around:-)
Wow I wish I could be there. Right now in Israel we have a war so I can’t fly to the expo but maybe next year! Also what are your favorite pedals for around 600 euros?
That is a topic on its own. I need to find that
@@randomcallsign ok I would love to see a video of the best pedals for each price, maybe you can do a series of the best equipment for each price
Safe blessing to you and your peoples in Israel
@@AKK5IAnd palestine moreover
Pedals for 600€, NuoSimulation, handcrafted in Germany by one Person.
One British company there and you couldn't even stop for a chat
Well, Like I said in the vid, I lost a lot of time because of ATC strike and Friday would be great to have a look. Im not going to every booth to stay in lines as time is limited and I need to rationalise the use. Maybe next year, maybe not.
Whats the wheel in the thumbnail? It looks sooo nice
Did you hear anything from Logitech. I'm hoping that they will eventually get some wheels for their direct drive base
The Clubsport DD feels better than the Podium DD2? Now... you have to tell me a little more about that because that just smells marketing BS. Also are you comparing it with the Podium DD2 with QR1 or QR2?
Not marketing BS. Twice the slew rate and some of the competition was saying as much. Its a decent improvment over the DD1.
so much cool stuff❤👍
Yay there’s competition between competitors… in every way but the only one that matters… price. For what it would take to buy a really good rig you could buy a rl vette… & that’s just bs.
A Cameron Das sighting!
Fogo não sabia que eras português vivo em paris e gosto de sim racing... fora o trabalho é o meu passatempo....
De onde és em Portugal? Podemos sempre trocar ideias nas férias quando vou a portugal se não viveres longe....
Os meus pais sao de bragança...
Abraço
Coffee racer looks like they modified IKEA furniture
Why do Fanatec make seperate PS and XB versions of their wheel bases? Wouldn't it be cheaper to just make one which supports all platforms?
Because the royalty fee from Sony makes the PS version more expensive.
@@reckanize Yes, but people have to buy the wheel twice if they own a PS and Xbox or want to play GT7 and Forza unless they buy a gaming PC too.
The PS version is xbox compatible with a compatible wheel
i wish i knew about this!
Man all these competing brands and uostart new companies giving the likes of fanatec and simucube stiff competition and at reasonable prices is e best things that coulda happened to sim racing gone are the days of paying over 1'000 US dollars for a basic direct drive base i literally just got my first DD a Moza R5 and have upgraded everything from that bundle except the base with a CS wheel CRP pedals a hgp shifter and hbp handbrake and a next level racing ws 2.0 its a absolute game changer when coming from a G29 and shifter like i did my question is how much better than this can it truly get i feel if i go up the ladder much more ill be well past the piint of diminishing returns my last upgrade will be a Moza R12 and ill be done for a very very long time amd give my son the R5 bundle
Great video 👌😁
What do you think about Sabelt wheel rim? Is it any good?
not my style. the quality is good as well as the ascher button box. Id have another hweel on top of it.
Heaven 4 me 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Do you know what brand those blue pedal plates are at 0:33 ? thanks!
HRS pedal pads
brilliant, thanks!@@dbuck01
Great vid 👍
Glad you enjoyed
Did you get anything out of the Fanatec CEO about the Bentley rim?
No. I just stopped caring about it. Its vapourware to me.
Im more interested in clubsport/podium pedals.
@@randomcallsign that's extremely disappointing to hear. Guess I'll go down the GSI route for a wheel with a proper display. Appreciate the reply!
Bentley discontinued their GT3-program already in 2021 so I guess this wheel is a left-over and will never be released like with the car.
Logitech can't even release a gt/open style wheel? They've had ample time , not a good look.
What they saved on a woman they're spending on a wheel
POTATOOOOOOOOO
Thank you 😋
Are you Portuguese?? 😱 damn
Sim
@@randomcallsign ja vi tantos videos teus e nunca soube de nada. Agora estou extra orgulhoso xD
nice video
Thanks
and good crack was had
Fiquei assustado com o RandomCallSign ser português KKKKKKKK
PORTUGAL CRLLLLL
Tenho uma pergunta para fazer. Moro no Brasil e tenho um g920 a 3 anos. penso em fazer um upgrade em algum momento entre 2024 e 2025, o que me recomendaria como uma opção para substituir o meu Logitech? Adoro seus vídeos!@@randomcallsign
@@pedrodruzian5616 Cara nesse tempo todo que vc ficou com o g920 quais foram os pontos positivos e negativos que vc teve, além de queria saber se é uma boa opção pra alguém como eu que quer iniciar em simuladores, sempre joguei forza motorsport 7 e AC no controle, quero ir pro ACC e motorsport 2023
@@reginaldo8929 Mano, curto muito o G920, o ffb é ótimo, os pedais são bons TMB e é um produto confiável. Nesses 3 anos nunca me deu problema, apenas desgaste no couro, nós botões menores, que as vezes não são acionados no jogo, e o pedal que tem q abrir de vez em quando pra poder limpar, caso contrário, fica com mal contato nos sensores, mas um limpa contato e um vídeo no TH-cam, vc resolve rapidinho
@@reginaldo8929 Se vc tiver um Series S ou X, compensa ir pro acc mesmo, eu comprei qnd tava com meu One S, me serviu MT bem no Assetto Corsa, Project Cars 2, WRC e outros simuladores. Atualmente jogo no Pc, por conta dos outros simuladores disponíveis e por causa dos mods no AC1, muda da água pro vinho
Fanatec always does the dumbest things. The clubsport PC/Xbox base is 12nm yet the PS5 version is 15nm? That makes no damn sense
Makes plenty of sense. If you are paying for the chip might as well give you more power.
You can always plug in a xbox enabled wheel if you want 15nm on both platforms
Because that one would be 300 euros or 42% more expensive thanks to sony
Because of the french? Really?🙄
796th view
Damn thats crazy bro
First view!
yooo