Your right, Dennis. These are the best baitrunners Shimano has ever produced. The newer versions are nice, but the B series are tanks. They will last forever with proper maintenance. I have a couple of older A series that are still going strong. Take care.
Dennis, my only baitfeeder is an Okuma Avenger ABF 40 that I really like. It is simpler and, to me, easier to service or work on. I certainly would love to have a Shimano 6500 baitfeeder someday. This was an intimidating repair video for me. I’ve always been intimidated by Shimano and especially Penn baitfeeders. With my limited vision I’m just a little afraid of them. As always you make the difficult look easy. Great video Dennis! - Chris
@@richardsurber7928 with all my reels, every time I take reels on a surf fishing trip those reels get a thorough take apart cleaning and service afterward. I collect mostly vintage saltwater spinning reels manufactured before 1980. Certainly that Okuma Avenger ABF I have doesn’t fit that parameter but I had no baitfeeder and I wanted to try fishing with one. I haven’t used it in saltwater yet but I plan to sometime. I have 310 spinning reels so choosing what reels to use when I go fishing can cause quite a problem. - Chris
@@richardsurber7928 with all my reels, every time I take reels on a surf fishing trip those reels get a thorough take apart cleaning and service afterward. I collect mostly vintage saltwater spinning reels manufactured before 1980. Certainly that Okuma Avenger ABF I have doesn’t fit that parameter but I had no baitfeeder and I wanted to try fishing with one. I haven’t used it in saltwater yet but I plan to sometime. I have 310 spinning reels so choosing what reels to use when I go fishing can cause quite a problem. - Chris
@@2ndChanceTackle So far so good but I have barely used it. I guess I’ll find out how durable mine is. I got it new in the box and I have not tried to used it in saltwater yet. - Chris
@@2ndChanceTackle It takes a little more then a step by step video as you do to get the job done for some. Your video's are very helpfull but skill plays a part aswell .
Dennis for all the years I have been fixing reels with bail reels I heard you say if you are using it for bait feeder flip the switch were you referring to the anti reverse dog, a fish grabs the bait takes off and you can here the anti reverse dog hitting the ratchet and then you hear the clicking compared to if the anti reverse dog is off and the reel rotor goes back and fourth silently
Hmm - there are two drag systems on this and an A/R clutch on this reel. There is no dog. Not sure if you are referring to this reel. Those that use dogs and an over-ride switch can go silent and over-ride the click click, but lost the hold fast a/r in the process - Dennis
Hi Dennis just doing end of year service on my 4500B I service the line guide side of the bail fine however on the opposite side of bail wire where the screws sleeve part under kind of a half moon shape cover is a rectangular one end half moon shape on the other brass piece that is rattling around inside not sure what it does or how it goes back in or if it even belongs in there any input appreciated
Follow this link to the reel schematic. It will show you the orientation and where it goes www.reelschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/schematics/Shimano/Baitrunner/SHIMANO%20BAITRUNNER%204500A(92-21)(1).pdf Dennis
The part came off of a donor reel that the owner had brought with the one that needed the repair. - You are correct, the parts for these reels are very hard to find. - Dennis
The professional fingers of Dennis! Excellent job yet again.
Thanks - this is not an easy one to do
Your right, Dennis. These are the best baitrunners Shimano has ever produced. The newer versions are nice, but the B series are tanks. They will last forever with proper maintenance. I have a couple of older A series that are still going strong. Take care.
It's all about the maintenance, like any machine, it needs to be cared for in order to work properly - Thanks for sharing - Dennis
Dennis, my only baitfeeder is an Okuma Avenger ABF 40 that I really like. It is simpler and, to me, easier to service or work on. I certainly would love to have a Shimano 6500 baitfeeder someday. This was an intimidating repair video for me. I’ve always been intimidated by Shimano and especially Penn baitfeeders. With my limited vision I’m just a little afraid of them. As always you make the difficult look easy. Great video Dennis! - Chris
Okuma ABF's are good reels easy to work on but need serviced frequently, especially in saltwater.
True - I get a lot me ABF reels that the Shimanos - Shamans need strive. ABFs need repairs - Dennis
@@richardsurber7928 with all my reels, every time I take reels on a surf fishing trip those reels get a thorough take apart cleaning and service afterward. I collect mostly vintage saltwater spinning reels manufactured before 1980. Certainly that Okuma Avenger ABF I have doesn’t fit that parameter but I had no baitfeeder and I wanted to try fishing with one. I haven’t used it in saltwater yet but I plan to sometime. I have 310 spinning reels so choosing what reels to use when I go fishing can cause quite a problem. - Chris
@@richardsurber7928 with all my reels, every time I take reels on a surf fishing trip those reels get a thorough take apart cleaning and service afterward. I collect mostly vintage saltwater spinning reels manufactured before 1980. Certainly that Okuma Avenger ABF I have doesn’t fit that parameter but I had no baitfeeder and I wanted to try fishing with one. I haven’t used it in saltwater yet but I plan to sometime. I have 310 spinning reels so choosing what reels to use when I go fishing can cause quite a problem. - Chris
@@2ndChanceTackle So far so good but I have barely used it. I guess I’ll find out how durable mine is. I got it new in the box and I have not tried to used it in saltwater yet. - Chris
Shimano baitfeeders have the most parts of any reel but are extremely reliable if taken care of correctly.
They are
Good video I have the 6500 model off this reel enjoyed your video on this reel Dennis 😊
That 6500 is one of the best ever made in my opinion. Enjoy - Dennis
Nice JOB that reel would have been in the TRASH 5 min. ago if i had tryed doing that.
Hopefully you would have found the video before it was carted off! Thanks
@@2ndChanceTackle It takes a little more then a step by step video as you do to get the job done for some. Your video's are very helpfull but skill plays a part aswell .
Thanks so much Dennis opened it up Shure as shit that clip was floating around
Thanks what I thought! - Best wishes
Dennis for all the years I have been fixing reels with bail reels I heard you say if you are using it for bait feeder flip the switch were you referring to the anti reverse dog, a fish grabs the bait takes off and you can here the anti reverse dog hitting the ratchet and then you hear the clicking compared to if the anti reverse dog is off and the reel rotor goes back and fourth silently
Hmm - there are two drag systems on this and an A/R clutch on this reel. There is no dog. Not sure if you are referring to this reel. Those that use dogs and an over-ride switch can go silent and over-ride the click click, but lost the hold fast a/r in the process - Dennis
Hi Dennis just doing end of year service on my 4500B I service the line guide side of the bail fine however on the opposite side of bail wire where the screws sleeve part under kind of a half moon shape cover is a rectangular one end half moon shape on the other brass piece that is rattling around inside not sure what it does or how it goes back in or if it even belongs in there any input appreciated
Follow this link to the reel schematic. It will show you the orientation and where it goes www.reelschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/schematics/Shimano/Baitrunner/SHIMANO%20BAITRUNNER%204500A(92-21)(1).pdf Dennis
Sure is a challenge Dennis.
Tad
Yes it was - the only thing worse is having one of these come in as a reel in the back with he trip springs off the assembly!
8 springs every one goes in a different direction 😂😂😂 that had me laughing just thinking about it
I wonder if mechanical engineers get to take a course on springs in their design classes!
@@2ndChanceTackle they should make the designers chase the springs around on the floor like Sherlock Holmes lol
How can I reinstall the spring on the cam on the opposite side of the bailer on my 4500 Shimano bait caster?
I will see if I have one in the shop. If I do, I can show you in a video. Right now, I don't think I have one - Dennis
Where on earth did you find that bail part? I have a 6500B that needs that assembly.
The part came off of a donor reel that the owner had brought with the one that needed the repair. - You are correct, the parts for these reels are very hard to find. - Dennis
I can see why you always recommend leaving the bail alone unless absolutely necessary lol
Lessons learned. and passed on to others - Thanks
I almost think I would rather deal with a manual pick up, then fight with the bail springs
That's a option