You are a very patient answering machine for audio doubts in your website... Hope your chanel will grow bigger. Good luck and thank you for answering all the questions
I purchased the DT 770 pro based on your recommendation. You speak the truth. These are the best sounding headphones I've heard. My LG V40 easily powers the 250 ohm version. They get plently loud at max volume. If you own an LG phone with the quad dac, have no qualms about buying the DT 770 pro. They are a perfect fit for this phone!
@@paritosh_arahat I listen to all kinds of music, such as blues, indie, and rock. I've been listening to a lot of music by Hans Zimmer lately. I usually have the volume from 25 to 40 while listening to most music. At Max volume my LG V40 is plently loud with the 250 ohm version.
Ever since the LG v10 came out i was searching for such kind of a review, the one that involves dt770 and dt990s... I just got a new LG v20 and here you are... Thanks man for a very nice review..
Excellent video, straight to the point 👍. I've just bought a V40 and am researching headphones, something I've never done before. I'm all set to grab the 80 ohm 770s but before I do I am reconsidering the 250 ohm varient. I mainly listen to ambient and classical but also a bit of 70s/80s pop/rock.
Thanks. The 250 ohm are smoother but for classical I would get the 80 ohm as they go louder in the volume and that is more important with classical. The 250 ohm might not be loud enough for you.
@@GavinsGadgets thanks for the response. When i upgrade from the v20 to the v40 things were nice at first due to new phone and other app features for sound, but the bluetooth audio on the v40 is a downgrade. I still kind of use the v20 more for audio, especially for bluetooth.
@@GavinsGadgets i don't know whats going on with it but there's a good decrease in volume with mine compared to the v20. Even searched online and they said some change were made on the volume level of the v40. But i will check out the v50, hopefully the bluetooth is better than the v40 on it
Gavin. I juat got them. Clearly above anything i ever heard. A little concerned with the amount of time i will spend just relistening my music collection. Thank you for advising me. Loud enough and crystal sound as you said. A big thumbs up to you my friend from romania. ☺️
"Hope you're keeping well" instantly made me smile. It's so different from the usual stuff you hear at the start of youtube videos these days. I hope you're keeping well too. :)
Hey man, loved the video! I have a V40 and just thinking of getting a V60, so I was researching which headphones I should pair it with to get the best sound quality. Looking forward to switch my jbl live 500bt for some good quality headphones. Do you have an updated ranking somewhere? Its been quite a a while. Thanks for your help :)
Thanks a lot. A very informative video. I am planning to buy 770 pro 250 ohm. How was the bass reproduction when paired with the LG phone ? Also is the 80 ohm version's sound reproduction / signature different from the 250 ohm 770 pro ?
Thanks. The 80 ohm is easier to drive and goes louder. The 250 ohm is smoother sounding but might not go loud enough for some people. 80 ohm is the better option.
Thanks for the video. I was looking for right headphones and now I get some useful Information through your video. What are you thought on San Heisser HD560s 120ohms? Are they comparable to dt770pro 80ohm or 250 ohm? I have LG V50 and I wanna get dt 770 pro 250ohm but the 3m coiled cable just make it a hard choice to choose.
DT770 PRO WITH 250 OHMS with LG G6 is a pair made in heavens. Don't need to buy overly expensive 1000 dollar stuff. Even with 250 ohms the volume is ear piercingly even at 90%.
Hi Gavin thank you very much for this detailed review, quick question how would you compare the HD599 to the HD560S considering it will be powered off an LG V30? Iam just worried the HD599 wont trigger the phone into High impedence mode? And also how would you compare the HD560S to the Beyerdynamic DT770 pro? I assume the later will have better bass but would the HD560s have a better mid, top and sound stage thats worth loosing the bottom end the Beyers excell in?
See this video of mine - Sennheiser HD 560s review vs HD 599 vs HiFiMan HE400i (2020) th-cam.com/video/FUm9C_WxaZE/w-d-xo.html - both should be ok with high impedance mode. I would skip the Beyers, but your assumptions are fairly accurate.
@@GavinsGadgets thanks alot Gavin, so just to be sure you would recommend the HD599 and HD560s over the Beyer correct even if it is the HD599 that I can only find locally its still better overall then the DT770pro correct? From 1-10 how much sub bass would I be loosing going with HD599 vs DT770pro
2:30 - You actually don't need the high impedance mode at all, it will only make things sound louder for headphones that are harder to push. Regular IEMs or extremely sensitive IEMs will actually benefit more from the standard impedance mode. Quality remains the same in both of the modes, as you said, it's a myth.
Hi Gavin! I'm confused what version of the dt770 do I buy for my v40, an 80 ohms or the 250 ohms. You have praised the 250 version a lot in the video. So I'm worried that if I buy the 80 ohm, I'm not getting the best. And are you what on max volume all the time on the 250s? By the way I'm just a casual listener and mainly listen to rock and pop bands like Coldplay, U2, Owl city, still corners, etc.
My hearing is in reasonable shape and I don’t listen to loud levels so the 250 ohms is my preference. But the volume will be on max and for some music may not be loud enough, hence why 80 ohms is the better alternative.
Gavin, really useful review, what is your experience of the Beyer DT880? I'm using these and a pair of Klipsch x11e with my V30, and I'm underwhelmed with the max volume - my laptop with a Dacmagic XS is much louder, and possibly a better SQ too, so the sensitivity is key as always with UK/EU max SPL limited crap. I'm seriously considering the DT770 after watching your review.
Depends on the ohms of the Beyers. If max volume is an issue, make sure you have the 80 ohms. The DT770s are better as closed back design. But I do like the 880s as well.
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond I guess they will trigger the higher output threshold that I've read is at 50 ohm impedance. I've found that fooling the amp into thinking its got a higher load has transformed my klipsch buds. I've also figured that the V30 is better than my Cambridge dac magic xs. All good!
@@GavinsGadgets The Sony's so far are very 'fun' but im sure there s more information and dynamics traveling through that cable than the Ldac bluetooth connection.
Great reviews of different types of headphones. I will be trying out that 770 Pro, but does it need to be played at high volume to really enjoy the sound? Also, what software specifically on the V20 needs to be used to exploit the sound completely?
Thanks Gavin, will check them out. Budget-wise, with Carphone Warehouse credited me for the b&o play earbuds which they couldn't replace I could buy two pairs of these and have change left over :-)
My choice is Sennheiser 650 equivalent from Massdrop or Drop(new name). Identical except for colour. I bought them for my V35 and V40. Ordered V60 and will use with it too. The Sennheiser Hd 650 are only $200 at the Drop website. Which is $300 or so less than they should cost. They are high impedance but these phones can drive them. If you want then to be super loud tho you may wanna buy an amp. I like them without because I listen to jazz at moderate levels. Killer natural sound. These phones were top of the line for Sennheiser back a decade or so ago. Friggin steal at $200 US
Sennheiser are superb for jazz. It’s a shame that Drop remains US only , the deals don’t become as good if shipped to the UK, as tax etc is due on top of sale price. It’s possible to get the actual 650 brand new for about £270 and the 600 for about £200. If you haven’t yet, tube amps with the 650 and jazz are the best.
@@GavinsGadgets Yes,I am aware that UK is expensive for any shopping outside of Europe. Come to think of it,it's pretty expensive period. I use to do a lot of ebay sales to UK. It's a shame. I'm actually in Canada so US to Canada is a bit more expensive but definitely worthwhile. Thank you for the suggestions of tube amp for the phones. I have yet to buy a dedicated amp for them. The price of HD 650 you mentioned is actually par with US prices once converted so that's fair enough. After all Sennheiser is in Germany so they should be the same.
Hey I'm glad I found your comment. Personally, I'm waiting for a sale to pick up the 6xx for my LG V30. I know they sound great with it, but I've read that only a dedicated amp can bring out the best out of them. Will the difference be substantial? Is it gonna be wasted on my V30? Or should I look for something else instead? I'm also considering the he400se and the drop 58x.
Looking to try a v60 soon because most fiio/astell daps are really overpriced slow and often faulty - have the focal stellia and for a mobile flac player the v60 and a 1tb card looks just fine - focal stellia 35ohm and 106db - should be easy to drive them with the v60 - which V lg sounded the best for you? Thanks
Guys the best in ears for lg v20.v30 and g7 is the tfz king pro. Its turn on the high impedance mode and omg its f.. Insane what a g7 and a tfz king pro can do
Mate, a year and a bit later would you say the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 250 ohm are still top dog? Any other options? I'm about to get the V30 purely for that Quad Dac. Currently using the ZS10's with the V20, they are 32 Ohm. Also soundwise (thrills not loudness) would you go for the DT990 250 ohm or the DT770? Thank you :)
DT990 250 ohm wont go loud enough with the V30, you need the DT770. If you prefer more volume the DT770 80 ohms are a good choice. The DT770 250 ohms are smoother, but for some people they need more volume,. This is more of an issue with classical music, so the DT770 80 ohms are a better option.
Thanks for your work, it is excellent! Would you recommend the Audio-Technica ATH-M50x Professional Studio with 38ohm for my LG V50? Thank you very much!
Thanks for such an informative video. I am from India and recently bought LG G7. Most of the headphones you've mentioned either not available here or are twice the price you've mentioned. Can you tell how much impedance headphone/earphone (Gimme a range if not specific) shall I buy to get best out of my G7? Currently using 46Ohms earphones.
Hello, I have a LG V20. I'm thinking of getting a Beyerdynamic DT990 (250 Ohm version). Going by your video the phone's quad DAC should be able to power it nicely right? Will it be a good combo? Thanks!
Been searching everywhere for the official specs on the LG G6 Quad DAC ohm impedance. I also wanted to know if buying the 250ohm DT770 Pro would work with the G6. This video answered both of my questions.
Hi Gavin. Hope you are doing good. Would be great if you can test lg g7 quad dac with soundnagic e80c earphones. These are the only bugdet option available here. But your opinion on the same will be really helpful since i believe you have good judjement on this topic.Cheers!!
I opted for the 80ohm on the DT770. I saw a top Amazon review saying the bass was a bit meatier for the 80 ohm compared to the 250 and I tend to like a punchy bass. I really wanted to make use of the hifi quad DAC on the v30 and my in-ear Klipsch XR8, although they sound alright, just don't do much more of anything with the DAC because of how low their impedance is.
Enjoy them. One option is to force the Quad DAC is high impedance mode by using an adapter first before plugging headphones in, or try the app HiFiDacFix (doesn't work on every phone).
@@GavinsGadgets How about this. I'll buy the dragonfly DAC instead of buying an LG G7 and use my current phone (J7 Prime) and the mx50bt. What do you think?
Hi Melissa, all good here thanks. Hope you are ok too. The 250 ohm version will be a max volume. Its loud enough for my ears but may not be on some classical or not loud enough for your ears. So stick with the 80 ohms
gavin i saw the beyerdynamic T70P in the amazon and user review was so good.can you help me to know the difference between T70P and DT770? which one is better? thanks sir in advance
+muchos gwapos I’ve not heard the T70p. They are much newer with the Tesla drivers, so I’d guess they would sound better, but cost nearly 5 x more. Are you getting 5 x more quality?
thanks for the reply sir gavin.it means it's the tesla driver that makes T70 sounds better than DT770? sorry i'm newbie only in audio.also how about grado sr325e? hoping to watch a review from you on the newest shanling m3s soon.thanks sir gavin
Hi again. Since the release of this video, have you come across any headphones (ideally with detachable cable) that sound amazing with v20? Also for the Bayerdynamics DT 770 pro do you reccomend 80oms or the the 250ohms for v20? Thank you.
+MaggotBrain21 personally the 250 ohms. But if you want more volume then go for 80 ohms. Depends how good your ears are. And still happy with my choices sinces video made.
Hi everyone!! How is the audio performance compared to lg v40?? To v50, v60. How is the surround sound also when compared to v40 DTSx 3d and v60 lg3d sound engine
i have an lg v30 and i will connect it to my amplifier not iem or headphones,the problem is i need to buy and impedance adopter to trigger the high impedance mode on the lgv30 to gain high volume output to feed my amplifiers rca in,my question is which adopter to buy an 80ohm or the 250ohm version? want the highest volume output possible to feed my amplifier.thanks
I'm confused. In your video you reccomended the 250ohms but in the comments it seems like you edge towards the 80ohms. What gives? If you were given the choice between the two, which would you pick?
Nothing confusing. The 250 sound better than the 80 ohm. My ears arent as deaf as others, so with the 250 ohm you can be at max volume and for some that wont be enough, so 80 ohm is why I recommended to others in comments.
@@GavinsGadgets I'd rather have the bet sound for my incoming v50 but I'm worried the 250a will be quiet. I wonder if my local currys will have some to try? Thanks for the reply
Unlikely they will. It’s more of an issue with classical music as well due to the quieter passages. They way to look at it is the 80 ohm will be powered fully whereas the 250 ohm might sound 10% better but may not have enough volume for your ears. And if you’ve never heard both , you won’t miss a thing. Both sound excellent.
Does the top 2, dt770 pro and dt990 pro still are the best with LG quad dac phone in 2021 or there are better options? Also does dt990 pro with LG g8 sound better than he400i 2020 with an amp?
@@GavinsGadgets thank you...is dt990 pro too sharp in the treble? I prefer balanced sound. Something better than my akg k371 which are closed. But now I want an open back option.
I'm someone who enjoys edms and house music a lot and I also like my headphones to have a punchy feel to the bass so what do you recommend ? Also I read reviews stating that you need additional amps for the 250 ? Do I need to buy one for the LG G7? Thank You!
Hi Gavin...I have an Audio Technica ATH MSR 7(35 ohms and closed back)..Do you think it can take advantage of the quad dac of the LG G6? Also, I am going to buy an open back Hifiman HE-400i with 32 ohms as well...Will it be able to use the Quad DAC??? Really concerned here...Because based on Online review HE-400i is better than Bayerdynamic DT 990 Pro versions...but if the He-400i is not able to utilize the quad Dac then do you think I should buy the DT990??
+Ashwin M.S the M50 are fine. The Hifiman and all headphones sub 50 ohms will work as normal mode with the quad dac is still really good. However, the Hifiman would be better in high impedance mode. Just use an auxiliary adapter. Connect this first into the V30 and then the headphones. Don't go buying anything else until you've tried what you have
hi gavin. i was thinking about getting a pair of dt880 for my v30 (i currently own the 770 250ohm). do you think the upgrade is worth and the 250 can still be drove?
Great video,iv got the lg v30 and iv been looking at getting a pair of phillips fidellio or maybe the shure 1540 with home listening in mind would these be good choices?I can spend up to around £380.
Great video! I've watched several now, and find them very informative, though I feel a little overwhelmed with choices. I have an LG V35 and a G6+, both with the quad DAC. I've been wanting to know, are the Sennheiser HD599 as good or better than the 598? Do they trigger high impedance mode on the DAC? I want something with good rich sound that will take advantage of the DAC, primarily for music and gaming. I listen to a lot of alt-rock, progressive rock, electronic stuff like Conjure One and Balligomingo, classic rock, etc. I don't know which will sound best for these genres, and aren't terribly expensive. I'm leaning toward the HD 599 or the DT 770 pro 80's. I've heard that the ATH-M50x are very popular, but I don't think they'd really take advantage of the DAC. I'm at a loss, though, because I've never owned more than average at best headphones. I'm using a pair of ATH-M40x currently, but want something better.
+SuperelvinSH thanks for feedback and subscribing. The Quad DAC makes no difference on Bluetooth. However, all G6’s have great Bluetooth quality. I’ve not heard the Bose, but I’m sure they’ll sound good.
Please suggest an open back for my LG V30+. I'm trying to decide between the Drop hd 6xx, 58x and hifiman HE400se, which I've heard some say is better than the hd6xx.
Hi Gavin, I own a Lg g7 and I want to buy the Sennheiser HD 598. However, I also see the HD 599. I wonder which one should I buy since both of them have around the same price on Amazon.
Not really, its at the top end of the phones capabilities. It will work, sound ok but personally I would max the G7 to a Sennheiser headphone of no more than 150 ohms.
I listen through AKG K7XX through my G6+. Absolutely superb! While the volume may not be as high as my hybrid tabletop amp, it still gets plenty loud. The noise floor is very low, the bass and dynamic range are both on par with my desk top unit. I have no doubt about the Q701 working well.
How about battery usage during hifi mode? How long it can last from 100% to 50% ? I'm considering to buy these smartphone for my 1more, MSR7 & Nad Viso
Interesting, thanks. I also have the DT990's and love them, but prefer my AKG K7XX through the V20. I am yet to hear the DT770 as chose the AKG K550 for my closed back option. I will try them out, thanks again.
Do the highs on the 990 hurt? Or does it depend on your ears? Apparently the m6 pro I have had painful highs for some people, but for me it's fine Also thinking of the dt 880
Liked! Both your videos. Just 2 question HTC hi res earphone was said to be 100$ earphone now they reduce the price and B&O play earphone is still marketed on LG website as 282$ earphone. I didn't find it that good. Can u tell whats so special about it, so that i can keep it, like HTC earphone as I m thinking of selling it cause of quality of sound, which seems inferior. Sennheiser Momentum cost 80$ do you recommend it, since I already have HTC hi res earphone. I don't use over ear headphones only in-ear. Thanks in advance.
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond Thanks for reply. Actually I got both these earphones free of cost along with phone. Honestly speaking I really like the sound output of HTC earphone(now priced 30$ 35ohm) especially paired with V20 and it is also Hi-Res certified like 157$ Sony MDR EX750NA(32ohm) in-ear earphones. I just fail to understand why B&0 earphone is advertised as expensive accessories. I will look into other options as mentioned by you.
I have the V20 and like a broad range of music: jazz, classical, pop, rock, do you think the Sennheiser HD598 (or HD600) would be better for this broad range than the Beyer DT770? I'm thinking the Senns might be better for jazz and classical music?
Subscribed! I'm planning to buy v30 and I've senheiser momentun 2.0 15ohm headphones. Do we really need to use high inpedance headphones to get the best out of v30 quad dac? Im confused about high impedance head phones for quad dac
+NS Baaji thanks for subscribing. No you don't need special headphones. Lower impedance headphones with the quad dad enabled will have better audio dynamic range. Higher impedance headphones generally sound really good if driven with a decent amount. Your momentum headphones are excellent.
I haven't tested v30 yet but have seen some people claiming that you need high impedance headphones to have best experience from quad dac. What do u say?
+NS Baaji People need cotton wool buds to clean their ears. All that happens is the V30 DAC adjusts the power according to how demanding the headphones are. When activated the dynamic range is significantly better regardless of headphone used apart from a few exceptions
Hi Gav (I know this is an old video) but I'm interested in buying the Beyerdynamic DT770 250ohm... I have the lg v30 phone but was wondering if you could recommend a good usb DAC/amp that i could use with them and do it justice from my laptop
On a slightly diff note..Have the V30 and just got a V60..and the V30 definitely sounds better..dont know why as its counter intuitive ..slightly disappointed was hoping the V60 would sound better..looked all over for the 'why' ..no luck . Does anyone know?
Hi gavin. My shipment of the 770pro 250ohm doesn't arrive till Tuesday so i can change the order. I saw reviews of the open back 990pro 250 that sad that sound is more natural, less artificial, synthetic. I am not an audiophile, I'll use my headphones just for music playback from my 6g quad dac. Can you pls tell me what you think gives the upper hand to the 770s? And something else. The 80 ohm version looses in quality but gains in volume in front of the 250 ohm? Is it not worth it to the average listener. Sorry for annoying you so much. Pls answer. Bye
+radu dobrota I have both the 990 and 770 250 ohm. The 770 are better. At some point I will sell the 990's. The 990s also have a treble spike. My comments on the 80 vs 250 ohm still stand. Keep what you have on order. And I hardly ever use the 990's now as I much prefer the 770's.
Hi I use LG v30 , already have a lot of headphones, But I love OpenBack so now I use HD 599, and I am thinking of Beyerdynamic 1990PRO will they work ?
How do you test them? Like do you have anything to test their quality. I have soundmagic e50c and they seem fine to me. What do you think of expensive setup audiophiles use?
+Solomon Deepak with my ears 😁 if you like what you have then that's all that matters. When you get to listen to loads of headphones, experience kicks in.
With the loss of quality along? Pls help me choose the right ones. Can you expand on this idea a little. The difference between 80 and 250 ohm. Price wise there is no difference. Thanks man. Obliged
do you have an update for this or can you recommend good in ear wired perhaps electrostatic or higher impedance type better than the monks ? tyty also which lg would you recommend now i have the beyer 990 pro and upgrading to tidal and android so far considered second hand v30 but interested in v40 v50 g9 etc :/ possible contract
The Beyers 990 are imo too hard to drive on the LG series unless they are under 100 ohms. Sound magic have some good options for in ear. The newer LG V50.
You don't need high impedance mode with the momentum in ears. You'll blow the earphones. Turning on the DAC does make a difference. It adjusts the power needed according to the headphones plugged in. Easy to drive and you're in low impedance mode. Over 50 ohms and you'll in high impedance mode. Whatever option you have active , the dynamic range is increased as well as the quality.
You can trick the LG using either an app called LG DAC Fix or an adapter that you plug in first , and the earphones into the adapter. But as I said you really don't need high impedance mode on those earphones as they're super easy to drive and go loud quicky.
@@GavinsGadgets Thanks for the answer but I can't see any difference when dac is active or not active :( Both are same sound quality .. And I was using lenovo vibe p1. Momentum have higher volume level at vibe p1. In v 30 plus it is low a bit. And today I tried dac mode with my friend's Marshall major 2, I felt amazing when dac is active. I felt obviously difference while dac is on. I wanna ask one question to you, if I buy high impedance in ear headphones like soundmagic e80c (64 ohm) , can I see difference like Marshall major 2
The momentums do not need a special DAC hence the difference is harder to tell. But there is a difference. Just try the LG DAC Fix app first and see if that works and keeps high impedance mode on. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phascinate.lgv10.dacfix
Hi, would the Superlux 668B be good enough to use with the LG G6? Or would KZ in-ear earphones be a better option? I need to find a good cost benefit because here in Brazil technology costs absurd!
Hi there. I am not familiar with either headphone. I had a look at the specs of the Superlux and on paper it looks like the LG G6 should be able to work fine with them. The KZ in ears would work ok too. Hope this helps.
Do you have suggestions for other headphones you can get in the US for the lgv30under $50? Mainly looking for in ears may get the new status audio iem 2x for 49but its a bit pricey for in ears to me...hopefully sound quality will be insanely good from status
Hi, I've just bought a pair of Hifiman Edition X V2, would LG V30 be good with these headphones or I'd batter buy a DAP? And in the second case which DAP should I buy? Thanks
Hello!. I am new to sound Hi Fi.. Do you think that the ATH-M40x it is good enough for the LG V30? Best regards from Argentina, sorry because my poor english.
+vanwanderer depending on headphones you can go higher. I wouldn't go more than 300 and it does depend on the headphone itself. I use 250 ohm Beyerdynamic headphones
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond i heard that dt770(80 ohms) are harder to drive than sennheiser hd600.and I read somewhere else that impedance isn't the only factor to consider.would you agree ?. I'm eventually planning on a dedicated headphone amp can you make a recommendation for hd600 or dt770?thx
There are other factors that come into it, hence my first reply. The sensitivity also counts. The Dt770 are 96db and the HD600 are 102db, meaning they are easier to drive from a sensitivity point of view. Overall, its a close call. As to a dedicated headphone amp, whats your budget, what are you going to connect it to and what sort of music do you listen too etc..
I'm planning to mostly my phone (note 4 now,v20 ordered) and my laptop .also ordered dt770 250 ohms . I'm new to quality music game . but still don't know enough about hardware except headphones.headphones are easy target . but don't know enough about amps dacs etc.so decided to go to buy a v20.my concern is that what if v20 can't drive dt770 250 ohms properly.in that case my budget will be like 200$. 300$ max.
Ok, im new to all this. I just bought a LGV60 with the quad DAC. The music sounds phenomenal thru a top-tier Tidal subscription and a app called USB Audio player pro using my $20 skull candy in ear buds. I bought the 250 ohm BD 770s and was not impressed. It sounds FLAT. Am I missing something? It doesn't sound full and rich. Now I can say I heard things in my music I haven't heard before using the new headphones. Like in the midrange areas. Longer echoes on vocals, pick nuances from guitars, but Im looking for a fuller richer sound. I've been watching videos and now hi-fi folks say sound signature is a personal thing. Some say I need the 80ohm version of these phones. Im exhausted. So many choices. Does anybody even understand what Im saying? Please help. I want so bad to understand this. Anybody? And Gavin thank you for your channel, I've learned a lot over the past week.
@@GavinsGadgets I ordered the 80ohm version. I am going to Best Buy today to try out a lot of different headphones to see what I like. Could you explain "proper audio?" I listen to wide range of music. Smooth jazz, metal, rock, big band. Help me understand?
You brain just needs time to re adjust. Your skull candy are bass heavy. Real music is not bass heavy. Except maybe electronic etc. If you still prefer bass heavy that’s fine too.
@@GavinsGadgets AWESOME! Gavin! Ok the 80ohm version for me is it! Best Buy here didn't have anything to try out. All Bluetooth headphones. But, the 80ohm version of the 770s came in a day early. I've been listening a lot. The bass is punchier and solid more so on these. I like it. And the detail is AMAZING. You can hear the someone finishing the "t" in a Silent night Christmas song. And the piano guys "a thousand years" WOW the detail. On the cellos the 3rd note of each bar is played at a greater velocity. On these headphones they ring out vibrantly accentuated in the mix. Although very subtle, they arrive to my ears audible, and crystal clear. Thank you for the help. I understand now. I hope your holidays are well and bright! 😀
I have a pair of B&W P7s. The impedance is only 22 ohms so will the quality of the v20 actually make a difference from my Iphoone7? I do mostly steam with itunes music but have no problem with streaming with Tidal if that would make an impact. Just looking for thoughts. I love the idea of a nicer DAC
+DJ Lumaye the V20 has better audio quality. The iPhone 7 restricts the audio bit rate. The V20 sounds better over Bluetooth as well. If you get a cheapish headphone amp, your P7’s will sound better. I have a iPhone 7 Plus and the audio difference is noticeable.
Thank you so much for getting back to me. Last question is this. I am available to upgrade my phone. What option do you feel would sound best for my headphones- Iphone 6s with headphone amp or the V20? thank you again.
My one issue with the Beyerdynamics is that they appear to have a fixed wire, knowing how clumsy I am with cables I think what Sennheiser is doing with their headphones is more practical, as they have a replacable cord. I'm very tempted to get the open cup beyers, they just look so classy and it really sounds like they're worth it.
+Jakub Białek the Beyerdynamic Headphones are very usable and serviceable. Hence there popularity in studios and commercial applications. All parts are changeable albeit not as simple.
I think you convinced me there, I guess I shouldn't be that worried. I've looked at other reviews and they also said their headphones are ridiculously durable. Awesome video, and thanks for your help!
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond okay couple observations. I got the 990s 250 ohms after some hesitation, I don't know what I was worried about. I've read some comments from people saying the sound signature is unbearable on the treble side, not sure if that's just me but I've had some other V shaped headphones for a while now so maybe I'm used to it, maybe my ears are damaged, lol. But I find the beyers sound just great. They get a bit pronounced at max volume, in my case the f sound more than the s, but they're plenty loud at 40-60 range. They get more than loud enough on the v30, and I just find their sound signature very pure and accurate. Still getting used to them, but I can already tell they're my kind of cups, they're just pure joy.
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond like, for instance I've owned both generations of the Xiaomi dual driver hd pro earphones, I loved the signature of the first gen, but the trebles on the second one were so piercing it was out of my comfort zone, I was worried something similar would happen here, but luckily it's not the case. I know I'm talking about a different type of headphone the Xiaomi being earbuds, but I was still concerned. Anyway, great video indeed, and thanks for all your help!
You are a very patient answering machine for audio doubts in your website... Hope your chanel will grow bigger. Good luck and thank you for answering all the questions
+MURSHID .K thank you 😊
I purchased the DT 770 pro based on your recommendation. You speak the truth. These are the best sounding headphones I've heard. My LG V40 easily powers the 250 ohm version. They get plently loud at max volume. If you own an LG phone with the quad dac, have no qualms about buying the DT 770 pro. They are a perfect fit for this phone!
Glad you really like the Beyers :)
Hey Daniel! What kind of music do you listen to?
Are you at max volume all the time?
@@paritosh_arahat I listen to all kinds of music, such as blues, indie, and rock. I've been listening to a lot of music by Hans Zimmer lately. I usually have the volume from 25 to 40 while listening to most music. At Max volume my LG V40 is plently loud with the 250 ohm version.
Ever since the LG v10 came out i was searching for such kind of a review, the one that involves dt770 and dt990s... I just got a new LG v20 and here you are... Thanks man for a very nice review..
+Walt Godfrey thank you too 😀
+Florent Capistran it's possible that might be the case. as our ears are at various stages of deafness. That's why the dt770 are better.
Excellent video, straight to the point 👍. I've just bought a V40 and am researching headphones, something I've never done before. I'm all set to grab the 80 ohm 770s but before I do I am reconsidering the 250 ohm varient. I mainly listen to ambient and classical but also a bit of 70s/80s pop/rock.
Thanks. The 250 ohm are smoother but for classical I would get the 80 ohm as they go louder in the volume and that is more important with classical. The 250 ohm might not be loud enough for you.
Thanks, will do 👍
You should do an updated video with more recent headphones, earbuds, etc. Plan on getting the LG V60 when it's available.
Crazy part is the headphones recommended are still some of the best for these LG phones.
I'm planning to buy the lg v40 for 160 euros on ebay and use it with my amazing linklike classic 2 earbuds. Crazy budget earbuds with awesome quality.
Nice one 👍
Great video, which lg phone do you think has greater, defined, more power 3.5 and Bluetooth wise?
All the same. The V50 sounded better very marginally.
@@GavinsGadgets thanks for the response. When i upgrade from the v20 to the v40 things were nice at first due to new phone and other app features for sound, but the bluetooth audio on the v40 is a downgrade. I still kind of use the v20 more for audio, especially for bluetooth.
Bluetooth gets marginally better as newer codecs get implemented. The V40 doesn’t sound worse on Bluetooth. Must be something else.
@@GavinsGadgets i don't know whats going on with it but there's a good decrease in volume with mine compared to the v20. Even searched online and they said some change were made on the volume level of the v40. But i will check out the v50, hopefully the bluetooth is better than the v40 on it
Thanks for taking the time to make this video I was pleasantly surprised to find your video on what I was wondering!
NP
Gavin. I juat got them. Clearly above anything i ever heard. A little concerned with the amount of time i will spend just relistening my music collection. Thank you for advising me. Loud enough and crystal sound as you said. A big thumbs up to you my friend from romania. ☺️
+radu dobrota My pleasure. Have lots of fun enjoying your music again 😀
"Hope you're keeping well" instantly made me smile. It's so different from the usual stuff you hear at the start of youtube videos these days. I hope you're keeping well too. :)
Thanks for the feedback :)
Hey man, loved the video! I have a V40 and just thinking of getting a V60, so I was researching which headphones I should pair it with to get the best sound quality. Looking forward to switch my jbl live 500bt for some good quality headphones. Do you have an updated ranking somewhere? Its been quite a a while. Thanks for your help :)
By the way, what does Impedance mean in this context? Which one should I get for the V60? Thanks in advance :)
Hey thanks for recommendation! I just bought dt770 250 and i'm delighted! I've also auditioned 80 ohm version but 250 one sounded more clear to me.
Great that you are enjoying them!
So 250ohm one is better sounding than 80ohm? Did I get it correct? Thanks
Yes marginally. But harder to drive and deliver higher volume, so some prefer 80 ohm for better punch
Gavin's Gadgets what happens if I use the Dt 770 pro 32 ohm with a lg v30?
Just has more overall volume, doesn't sound as smooth. But still good.
Most underrated channel
Many thanks 👍
Watching on my LG V30 with Sennheiser HD598 SR. They come alive with this setup!
+Jonny Appleseed great combo 😀👍
Thanks man! I got the headphones just for this phone I needed a great set of cans for this!
Thanks a lot. A very informative video. I am planning to buy 770 pro 250 ohm. How was the bass reproduction when paired with the LG phone ? Also is the 80 ohm version's sound reproduction / signature different from the 250 ohm 770 pro ?
Thanks. The 80 ohm is easier to drive and goes louder. The 250 ohm is smoother sounding but might not go loud enough for some people. 80 ohm is the better option.
For headphones which one's better v20 or v60?
Thanks for the video. I was looking for right headphones and now I get some useful Information through your video.
What are you thought on San Heisser HD560s 120ohms?
Are they comparable to dt770pro 80ohm or 250 ohm?
I have LG V50 and I wanna get dt 770 pro 250ohm but the 3m coiled cable just make it a hard choice to choose.
Whilst I havent reviewed the HD560s, I do have them and would definitely recommend. They are open back, whereas the DT770 are closed.
Atlast ..the video with the topic i was waiting for ..thanks brother..i hve a v20..will get better dynamic 770 asap
Cool :)
DT770 PRO WITH 250 OHMS with LG G6 is a pair made in heavens. Don't need to buy overly expensive 1000 dollar stuff. Even with 250 ohms the volume is ear piercingly even at 90%.
If your hearing isn’t as good now, just grab the 80 ohm version instead of 250.
Hi Gavin thank you very much for this detailed review, quick question how would you compare the HD599 to the HD560S considering it will be powered off an LG V30? Iam just worried the HD599 wont trigger the phone into High impedence mode? And also how would you compare the HD560S to the Beyerdynamic DT770 pro? I assume the later will have better bass but would the HD560s have a better mid, top and sound stage thats worth loosing the bottom end the Beyers excell in?
See this video of mine - Sennheiser HD 560s review vs HD 599 vs HiFiMan HE400i (2020)
th-cam.com/video/FUm9C_WxaZE/w-d-xo.html - both should be ok with high impedance mode. I would skip the Beyers, but your assumptions are fairly accurate.
@@GavinsGadgets thanks alot Gavin, so just to be sure you would recommend the HD599 and HD560s over the Beyer correct even if it is the HD599 that I can only find locally its still better overall then the DT770pro correct? From 1-10 how much sub bass would I be loosing going with HD599 vs DT770pro
@@GavinsGadgets Hi Gaven sorry to bother mate but would greatly appreciate your guidance when ypu get the chance
2:30 - You actually don't need the high impedance mode at all, it will only make things sound louder for headphones that are harder to push. Regular IEMs or extremely sensitive IEMs will actually benefit more from the standard impedance mode. Quality remains the same in both of the modes, as you said, it's a myth.
+CamperIV absolutely 👍
Hi Gavin! I'm confused what version of the dt770 do I buy for my v40, an 80 ohms or the 250 ohms. You have praised the 250 version a lot in the video. So I'm worried that if I buy the 80 ohm, I'm not getting the best. And are you what on max volume all the time on the 250s?
By the way I'm just a casual listener and mainly listen to rock and pop bands like Coldplay, U2, Owl city, still corners, etc.
My hearing is in reasonable shape and I don’t listen to loud levels so the 250 ohms is my preference. But the volume will be on max and for some music may not be loud enough, hence why 80 ohms is the better alternative.
Gavin, really useful review, what is your experience of the Beyer DT880? I'm using these and a pair of Klipsch x11e with my V30, and I'm underwhelmed with the max volume - my laptop with a Dacmagic XS is much louder, and possibly a better SQ too, so the sensitivity is key as always with UK/EU max SPL limited crap. I'm seriously considering the DT770 after watching your review.
Depends on the ohms of the Beyers. If max volume is an issue, make sure you have the 80 ohms. The DT770s are better as closed back design. But I do like the 880s as well.
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond I guess they will trigger the higher output threshold that I've read is at 50 ohm impedance. I've found that fooling the amp into thinking its got a higher load has transformed my klipsch buds. I've also figured that the V30 is better than my Cambridge dac magic xs. All good!
50 is the level. Glad you got it all rocking now.
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond
So which sounds better among ATH M50x, DT770 80 ohm and DT770 32 Ohm on LG V30?
70 ohm 770
Hello Gavin! Have you got any new suggestions on headphones? Does the DT 770 remain the king?
Yes it does still at its price
@@GavinsGadgets thanks for the prompt answer! :)
@@GavinsGadgets I Currently own the Sony WH1000 mx3's. Did you have a chance to try them? How do they compare to the DT's?
Vastly different headphones
@@GavinsGadgets The Sony's so far are very 'fun' but im sure there s more information and dynamics traveling through that cable than the Ldac bluetooth connection.
Great reviews of different types of headphones. I will be trying out that 770 Pro, but does it need to be played at high volume to really enjoy the sound? Also, what software specifically on the V20 needs to be used to exploit the sound completely?
+dpcoronado not really. I don't listen to music too loud. I use the default player by LG. Some like neutron player.
Exactly the Information I was looking for! Cheers from Germany
+Shorty281989 thanks for the feedback 👍
Thanks Gavin, will check them out. Budget-wise, with Carphone Warehouse credited me for the b&o play earbuds which they couldn't replace I could buy two pairs of these and have change left over :-)
That’s great 😀
My choice is Sennheiser 650 equivalent from Massdrop or Drop(new name). Identical except for colour. I bought them for my V35 and V40. Ordered V60 and will use with it too. The Sennheiser Hd 650 are only $200 at the Drop website. Which is $300 or so less than they should cost. They are high impedance but these phones can drive them. If you want then to be super loud tho you may wanna buy an amp. I like them without because I listen to jazz at moderate levels. Killer natural sound. These phones were top of the line for Sennheiser back a decade or so ago. Friggin steal at $200 US
Sennheiser are superb for jazz. It’s a shame that Drop remains US only , the deals don’t become as good if shipped to the UK, as tax etc is due on top of sale price. It’s possible to get the actual 650 brand new for about £270 and the 600 for about £200. If you haven’t yet, tube amps with the 650 and jazz are the best.
@@GavinsGadgets Yes,I am aware that UK is expensive for any shopping outside of Europe. Come to think of it,it's pretty expensive period. I use to do a lot of ebay sales to UK. It's a shame. I'm actually in Canada so US to Canada is a bit more expensive but definitely worthwhile. Thank you for the suggestions of tube amp for the phones. I have yet to buy a dedicated amp for them. The price of HD 650 you mentioned is actually par with US prices once converted so that's fair enough. After all Sennheiser is in Germany so they should be the same.
Tube amps are only good with jazz and classical imo, so bear that in mind. But wow though.
@@GavinsGadgets Yes. Thank you.
Hey I'm glad I found your comment. Personally, I'm waiting for a sale to pick up the 6xx for my LG V30. I know they sound great with it, but I've read that only a dedicated amp can bring out the best out of them. Will the difference be substantial? Is it gonna be wasted on my V30? Or should I look for something else instead? I'm also considering the he400se and the drop 58x.
Looking to try a v60 soon because most fiio/astell daps are really overpriced slow and often faulty - have the focal stellia and for a mobile flac player the v60 and a 1tb card looks just fine - focal stellia 35ohm and 106db - should be easy to drive them with the v60 - which V lg sounded the best for you? Thanks
Guys the best in ears for lg v20.v30 and g7 is the tfz king pro. Its turn on the high impedance mode and omg its f.. Insane what a g7 and a tfz king pro can do
I think I'm gonna buy that. I prefer in ear more than over the ear.
Yep
Coool
Excellent review. Cleared my doubts. Thank you!
+Lakmal Prabath Pathiranage thank you 😀👍
Mate, a year and a bit later would you say the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 250 ohm are still top dog? Any other options? I'm about to get the V30 purely for that Quad Dac. Currently using the ZS10's with the V20, they are 32 Ohm. Also soundwise (thrills not loudness) would you go for the DT990 250 ohm or the DT770? Thank you :)
DT990 250 ohm wont go loud enough with the V30, you need the DT770. If you prefer more volume the DT770 80 ohms are a good choice. The DT770 250 ohms are smoother, but for some people they need more volume,. This is more of an issue with classical music, so the DT770 80 ohms are a better option.
Thanks for your work, it is excellent!
Would you recommend the Audio-Technica ATH-M50x Professional Studio with 38ohm for my LG V50?
Thank you very much!
Cheers Martin. The m50x are good headphones but they won’t trigger high impedance mode (50 ohms and above )
@@GavinsGadgets Even if the high impedence mode is not trigerred the sound quality of less than 50ohm earphones improves or not?
thank you alot , have question, do you think iphone 8 is better for music or Lg V40tq and what headphone with what empedance you recomend ? ❤️
Hi Melissa. iPhone 8 is not even close to the LG V40. You can use any of the headphones in my video
New suscribe,great review
You think with a LG V50 and fio f9pro i would need a portlable amp like a dragonfly?
Cheers !
Hi Vincent. You don't need an amp with the LG V50.
@@GavinsGadgets great, i will save some money!
Gretings from Mexico
You sure will 👍😀
What headphones do you have Vincent? Asking cause I am also to buy one for my v40
@@paritosh_arahat i have the sennheiser 599
Thanks for such an informative video. I am from India and recently bought LG G7. Most of the headphones you've mentioned either not available here or are twice the price you've mentioned. Can you tell how much impedance headphone/earphone (Gimme a range if not specific) shall I buy to get best out of my G7? Currently using 46Ohms earphones.
Anything over 50 ohms and sensitivity 105db or higher if possible
@@GavinsGadgets Thanks.
Hello, I have a LG V20. I'm thinking of getting a Beyerdynamic DT990 (250 Ohm version). Going by your video the phone's quad DAC should be able to power it nicely right? Will it be a good combo?
Thanks!
Depends on how loud you like your music. 80 ohm version goes louder.
Edit that. The 990 need more power than the 770s, so 80 ohm is recommended
Great review. Do you recommend the same headphones to pair with the Hi-Fi plus module of LG G5?
Thanks for feedback. Yes I do but go for the dt770 80 ohm version
Been searching everywhere for the official specs on the LG G6 Quad DAC ohm impedance. I also wanted to know if buying the 250ohm DT770 Pro would work with the G6. This video answered both of my questions.
+Lerm Sermms that's great. Thanks for feedback 👍
Hi Gavin. Hope you are doing good. Would be great if you can test lg g7 quad dac with soundnagic e80c earphones. These are the only bugdet option available here. But your opinion on the same will be really helpful since i believe you have good judjement on this topic.Cheers!!
Hi Vivek. All good here. Hope you’re ok. E80c are a nice choice 👍
@@GavinsGadgets thanks man.
Thanks Gavin
I opted for the 80ohm on the DT770. I saw a top Amazon review saying the bass was a bit meatier for the 80 ohm compared to the 250 and I tend to like a punchy bass. I really wanted to make use of the hifi quad DAC on the v30 and my in-ear Klipsch XR8, although they sound alright, just don't do much more of anything with the DAC because of how low their impedance is.
Enjoy them. One option is to force the Quad DAC is high impedance mode by using an adapter first before plugging headphones in, or try the app HiFiDacFix (doesn't work on every phone).
High impedance mode turns on after 60 ohm impedance. I have custom studio beyers 80 ohms. Sound is absolutely fantastic.
Hi. Do u think my ATH mx50bt would be good for LG v30 or lg g7? Will I hear the difference in sound quality?
Not using Bluetooth and not really with wired either as 37ohms.
@@GavinsGadgets 😢
@@GavinsGadgets How about this. I'll buy the dragonfly DAC instead of buying an LG G7 and use my current phone (J7 Prime) and the mx50bt. What do you think?
hi again , hope you are doing well, do you think lg v40 can handle dt770 250 ohm or the 80 oh is much better?
Hi Melissa, all good here thanks. Hope you are ok too. The 250 ohm version will be a max volume. Its loud enough for my ears but may not be on some classical or not loud enough for your ears. So stick with the 80 ohms
thank you ❤️
Gavin which headphone was your first choice for best sound?
+Chip Clark I personally like the Beyer Dynamic DT770 250ohms.
gavin i saw the beyerdynamic T70P in the amazon and user review was so good.can you help me to know the difference between T70P and DT770? which one is better? thanks sir in advance
+muchos gwapos I’ve not heard the T70p. They are much newer with the Tesla drivers, so I’d guess they would sound better, but cost nearly 5 x more. Are you getting 5 x more quality?
thanks for the reply sir gavin.it means it's the tesla driver that makes T70 sounds better than DT770? sorry i'm newbie only in audio.also how about grado sr325e? hoping to watch a review from you on the newest shanling m3s soon.thanks sir gavin
Hi again. Since the release of this video, have you come across any headphones (ideally with detachable cable) that sound amazing with v20?
Also for the Bayerdynamics DT 770 pro do you reccomend 80oms or the the 250ohms for v20?
Thank you.
+MaggotBrain21 personally the 250 ohms. But if you want more volume then go for 80 ohms. Depends how good your ears are. And still happy with my choices sinces video made.
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond Thank you my man. You've really helped narrow my choice
Hi everyone!!
How is the audio performance compared to lg v40?? To v50, v60. How is the surround sound also when compared to v40 DTSx 3d and v60 lg3d sound engine
V50 is sweet spot.
i have an lg v30 and i will connect it to my amplifier not iem or headphones,the problem is i need to buy and impedance adopter to trigger the high impedance mode on the lgv30 to gain high volume output to feed my amplifiers rca in,my question is which adopter to buy an 80ohm or the 250ohm version? want the highest volume output possible to feed my amplifier.thanks
You only need 75 ohm. Or use aux out adapter. See gavinsgadgets.com/2016/02/08/lg-v10-how-to-turbo-charge-the-sabre-hi-fi-dac-sound-quality/
@@GavinsGadgets only 80 ohm adapter is available in my country,so ill be getting it.thank you,much appreciated.
I'm confused. In your video you reccomended the 250ohms but in the comments it seems like you edge towards the 80ohms. What gives?
If you were given the choice between the two, which would you pick?
Nothing confusing. The 250 sound better than the 80 ohm. My ears arent as deaf as others, so with the 250 ohm you can be at max volume and for some that wont be enough, so 80 ohm is why I recommended to others in comments.
@@GavinsGadgets I'd rather have the bet sound for my incoming v50 but I'm worried the 250a will be quiet.
I wonder if my local currys will have some to try?
Thanks for the reply
Unlikely they will. It’s more of an issue with classical music as well due to the quieter passages. They way to look at it is the 80 ohm will be powered fully whereas the 250 ohm might sound 10% better but may not have enough volume for your ears. And if you’ve never heard both , you won’t miss a thing. Both sound excellent.
Does the top 2, dt770 pro and dt990 pro still are the best with LG quad dac phone in 2021 or there are better options? Also does dt990 pro with LG g8 sound better than he400i 2020 with an amp?
The Beyers still sound amazing especially for their price. I would go for the HiFiMan now but that is more money.
@@GavinsGadgets thank you...is dt990 pro too sharp in the treble? I prefer balanced sound. Something better than my akg k371 which are closed. But now I want an open back option.
Sennheiser HD560s or HiFiMan Sundara.
Will the DT770 pro250 work to its full potential on the LG G7 ? Or should I get the 80 ohm version ? Help !!
Hi Neil. Just depends on how loud you need to listen to your music or how deaf your ears are. I’m ok at 250, but 80 will give you more top end volume.
I'm someone who enjoys edms and house music a lot and I also like my headphones to have a punchy feel to the bass so what do you recommend ?
Also I read reviews stating that you need additional amps for the 250 ? Do I need to buy one for the LG G7?
Thank You!
Go 80 ohms
@@GavinsGadgets Thank you :)
👍
Hi Gavin...I have an Audio Technica ATH MSR 7(35 ohms and closed back)..Do you think it can take advantage of the quad dac of the LG G6?
Also, I am going to buy an open back Hifiman HE-400i with 32 ohms as well...Will it be able to use the Quad DAC???
Really concerned here...Because based on Online review HE-400i is better than Bayerdynamic DT 990 Pro versions...but if the He-400i is not able to utilize the quad Dac then do you think I should buy the DT990??
+Ashwin M.S the M50 are fine. The Hifiman and all headphones sub 50 ohms will work as normal mode with the quad dac is still really good. However, the Hifiman would be better in high impedance mode. Just use an auxiliary adapter. Connect this first into the V30 and then the headphones. Don't go buying anything else until you've tried what you have
Thanks a million Gavin !! Will do as you have suggested.... ohh also... Happy New Year :-)
+Ashwin M.S Happy New year too 👍
hi gavin. i was thinking about getting a pair of dt880 for my v30 (i currently own the 770 250ohm). do you think the upgrade is worth and the 250 can still be drove?
80 ohm is better for 880. 250 ohm on 880 isn't enough power to drive them.
Hi, is HD600 play well with lg v40/50? The headphones with high impedance like this will trigger the higher amp mode right?
High impedance mode will trigger with both. Sounds ok but I personally feel the sennheisers need more power/current
@@GavinsGadgets thank you for replying so soon, subscribed.
Great video,iv got the lg v30 and iv been looking at getting a pair of phillips fidellio or maybe the shure 1540 with home listening in mind would these be good choices?I can spend up to around £380.
Thanks Leon, both are good headphones. You don't need to spend that much though. The Beyerdynsmic DT770 80 ohms are good options.
Does 80ohms trigger the quad dac? Deciding between dt770 pro 80 vs 250 ohms.. LG G8
Yes it does. Go for 80 ohms. Louder
Excellent video! I would like to get ur thoughts on the Audio Technica M40x with the V30 please?
Thanks. They are nice headphones
They are nice but won't trigger high impedance mode.
Great review! What are your thoughts on the Philips fidelio x2 for LG V20?
+MaggotBrain21 they’re ok but not the best pairing for the V20 in my opinion.
+MaggotBrain21 glad you liked the review too :)
Great video! I've watched several now, and find them very informative, though I feel a little overwhelmed with choices.
I have an LG V35 and a G6+, both with the quad DAC. I've been wanting to know, are the Sennheiser HD599 as good or better than the 598? Do they trigger high impedance mode on the DAC? I want something with good rich sound that will take advantage of the DAC, primarily for music and gaming. I listen to a lot of alt-rock, progressive rock, electronic stuff like Conjure One and Balligomingo, classic rock, etc. I don't know which will sound best for these genres, and aren't terribly expensive.
I'm leaning toward the HD 599 or the DT 770 pro 80's. I've heard that the ATH-M50x are very popular, but I don't think they'd really take advantage of the DAC. I'm at a loss, though, because I've never owned more than average at best headphones. I'm using a pair of ATH-M40x currently, but want something better.
Thanks for your feedback. Stick with the 599 if you want a more spacious open sound or the 770 for a harder punchier sound. Both excellent.
@@GavinsGadgets thanks! I may end up getting both, and see which I prefer for different media.
I did the same 😊
Great video, I subscribed =)
What are your thoughts on the Bose Soundsport Wireless for the LG G6 (Korean version with Quad dac) ?
thanks in advance!
+SuperelvinSH thanks for feedback and subscribing. The Quad DAC makes no difference on Bluetooth. However, all G6’s have great Bluetooth quality. I’ve not heard the Bose, but I’m sure they’ll sound good.
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond thanks a lot!
Please suggest an open back for my LG V30+. I'm trying to decide between the Drop hd 6xx, 58x and hifiman HE400se, which I've heard some say is better than the hd6xx.
It's not better. Different. HiFiman easier to drive.
Hi Gavin
Does the quad DAC work with wireless headphones too? Such sennheiser urbanite xl or the device must be wired to sound better? Thanks
No. Just wired headphones only.
It works with blutooth ones
Hi Gavin, I own a Lg g7 and I want to buy the Sennheiser HD 598. However, I also see the HD 599. I wonder which one should I buy since both of them have around the same price on Amazon.
Hi Leon. Get the 599. Both sound the same but the headband is better and slightly more comfortable on the 599.
@@GavinsGadgets Thank you!!!
thanks for the suggestions!
any recomendations on high ohm IEMs?
hope you got this answered
Do you recommend SENHEISER HD600 ( Impedance @ 1kHz: 300 Ohms. Sensitivity: 102 dB SPL/V ) paired with LG G7 ?i really appreciate your comment,thanks
Not really, its at the top end of the phones capabilities. It will work, sound ok but personally I would max the G7 to a Sennheiser headphone of no more than 150 ohms.
How does a v20 pair with AKG Q701s? Thinking of getting a v20 as a mobile DAP, DAC, and AMP for it...
Should be fine.
I listen through AKG K7XX through my G6+. Absolutely superb! While the volume may not be as high as my hybrid tabletop amp, it still gets plenty loud. The noise floor is very low, the bass and dynamic range are both on par with my desk top unit. I have no doubt about the Q701 working well.
How about battery usage during hifi mode? How long it can last from 100% to 50% ? I'm considering to buy these smartphone for my 1more, MSR7 & Nad Viso
+Flyinginthebluedream I leave HiFi Mode always on. I get 4 hours screen on time and a whole day usage. So for 50%. Half that.
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond Thanks. I might be using it for listening music with headphone in average of 5-6 hours a day. I assume it should be ok.
+Flyinginthebluedream absolutely fine. With the screen off that will be easily achieved and more.
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond Finally I bought these smartphone. I will figure out which headphone pair the best with it.
How's your msr7 working with g7.
Awesome review....subscribed!
+Justin Siders thanks 😀
ty for the video! you said that beyerdynamic with 250 ohm has good sound. how about the 600 ohm version? i want the best for my lg g7
Even better but the LG cannot provide enough power for them at all.
Interesting, thanks.
I also have the DT990's and love them, but prefer my AKG K7XX through the V20. I am yet to hear the DT770 as chose the AKG K550 for my closed back option. I will try them out, thanks again.
+Matt Coy Hi Matt. Thanks for the feedback. The AKG’s are a good headphone too :)
Do the highs on the 990 hurt? Or does it depend on your ears? Apparently the m6 pro I have had painful highs for some people, but for me it's fine
Also thinking of the dt 880
OK for me. Does depend on your ears
Liked! Both your videos. Just 2 question HTC hi res earphone was said to be 100$ earphone now they reduce the price and B&O play earphone is still marketed on LG website as 282$ earphone. I didn't find it that good. Can u tell whats so special about it, so that i can keep it, like HTC earphone as I m thinking of selling it cause of quality of sound, which seems inferior. Sennheiser Momentum cost 80$ do you recommend it, since I already have HTC hi res earphone. I don't use over ear headphones only in-ear. Thanks in advance.
+HarD TarGeT the HTC earphone is overpriced. The b and o are the same. Also not that good. Sennheiser is good. Also look at NuForce ne800m
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond Thanks for reply. Actually I got both these earphones free of cost along with phone. Honestly speaking I really like the sound output of HTC earphone(now priced 30$ 35ohm) especially paired with V20 and it is also Hi-Res certified like 157$ Sony MDR EX750NA(32ohm) in-ear earphones. I just fail to understand why B&0 earphone is advertised as expensive accessories. I will look into other options as mentioned by you.
I understand now. If you really like the HTC headphones, worth sticking with them :)
I have the V20 and like a broad range of music: jazz, classical, pop, rock, do you think the Sennheiser HD598 (or HD600) would be better for this broad range than the Beyer DT770? I'm thinking the Senns might be better for jazz and classical music?
Correct on the Senns
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I'm planning to buy v30 and I've senheiser momentun 2.0 15ohm headphones. Do we really need to use high inpedance headphones to get the best out of v30 quad dac? Im confused about high impedance head phones for quad dac
+NS Baaji thanks for subscribing. No you don't need special headphones. Lower impedance headphones with the quad dad enabled will have better audio dynamic range. Higher impedance headphones generally sound really good if driven with a decent amount. Your momentum headphones are excellent.
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond thanks so much you rock man...
+NS Baaji no worries 😀
I haven't tested v30 yet but have seen some people claiming that you need high impedance headphones to have best experience from quad dac. What do u say?
+NS Baaji People need cotton wool buds to clean their ears. All that happens is the V30 DAC adjusts the power according to how demanding the headphones are. When activated the dynamic range is significantly better regardless of headphone used apart from a few exceptions
Hi Gav (I know this is an old video) but I'm interested in buying the Beyerdynamic DT770 250ohm... I have the lg v30 phone but was wondering if you could recommend a good usb DAC/amp that i could use with them and do it justice from my laptop
Something like the Fiio Q1mk2 amzn.to/2EHlaiP should be fine.
thanks for the reply... what about the audioquest dragonfly red usb dac/amp
Thats also ok but also see they have something called a Jitterbug which will help too amzn.to/2o9gI2f
On a slightly diff note..Have the V30 and just got a V60..and the V30 definitely sounds better..dont know why as its counter intuitive ..slightly disappointed was hoping the V60 would sound better..looked all over for the 'why' ..no luck . Does anyone know?
That shouldn't be the case. Maybe yours ears just prefer it :)
@@GavinsGadgets the tuning Is def different..BO vs maybe LG? No mQA support..rec in mp3..many ways in which the v60 has taken a step backward
Shame really
Hi gavin. My shipment of the 770pro 250ohm doesn't arrive till Tuesday so i can change the order. I saw reviews of the open back 990pro 250 that sad that sound is more natural, less artificial, synthetic. I am not an audiophile, I'll use my headphones just for music playback from my 6g quad dac. Can you pls tell me what you think gives the upper hand to the 770s? And something else. The 80 ohm version looses in quality but gains in volume in front of the 250 ohm? Is it not worth it to the average listener. Sorry for annoying you so much. Pls answer. Bye
+radu dobrota I have both the 990 and 770 250 ohm. The 770 are better. At some point I will sell the 990's. The 990s also have a treble spike. My comments on the 80 vs 250 ohm still stand. Keep what you have on order. And I hardly ever use the 990's now as I much prefer the 770's.
hi gavin. i have an g6 quad dac. i take your advice to get the dt770. question: the 80 ohm vs the 250 ohm what is the noticeable difference. pls reply
+radu dobrota 250 sounds better. Smoother. More dynamic. IMO.
@@GavinsGadgets Hi Gavin, is there any difference in loudness?
ok i`ll go for them (250). will get them on monday. can`t wait!
+radu dobrota cool 😀
Hi I use LG v30 , already have a lot of headphones, But I love OpenBack so now I use HD 599, and I am thinking of Beyerdynamic 1990PRO will they work ?
The 990 will work, but get the 80 ohms version. Not 250 ohms.
Sorry , I misread the model number. I would not recommend the 1990. May not have enough volume.
DT 1990 have tesla drivers. Despite being 250 ohms they are still more easily driven so yes .
How do you test them? Like do you have anything to test their quality. I have soundmagic e50c and they seem fine to me. What do you think of expensive setup audiophiles use?
+Solomon Deepak with my ears 😁 if you like what you have then that's all that matters. When you get to listen to loads of headphones, experience kicks in.
With the loss of quality along? Pls help me choose the right ones. Can you expand on this idea a little. The difference between 80 and 250 ohm. Price wise there is no difference. Thanks man. Obliged
+radu dobrota the 250 sound much better. And IMO go loud enough.
What is imo?
+radu dobrota Sorry. In my honest opinion.
ok. Sorry for the question. English is not my native language... 😂
+radu dobrota That's ok 😀👍
Hi Gavin, any specific headphone recommendations for the v50?
If listening at home the Sennheiser mentioned or the Beyerdynamic dt 770
do you have an update for this or can you recommend good in ear wired perhaps electrostatic or higher impedance type better than the monks ? tyty also which lg would you recommend now i have the beyer 990 pro and upgrading to tidal and android so far considered second hand v30 but interested in v40 v50 g9 etc :/ possible contract
The Beyers 990 are imo too hard to drive on the LG series unless they are under 100 ohms. Sound magic have some good options for in ear. The newer LG V50.
i have a dt990 pro 250 ohm version. should i go with the lg G6 or G7?
Both will be ok. G7 is marginally better, very marginally.
Hey, whats the real difference between the v20 b&o and non-b&o version? Do they sound differently?
Hi Alex, not 100% sure. I think the B&O version has B&O branded earphones in the box and a slightly different EQ tuning.
@@GavinsGadgets thanks for ur reply :)
Hi Gavin I am using Sennheiser Momentum in ear and LG V30 plus. But when I activate Dac mode, nothing happens. How can I activate high impedance mode?
You don't need high impedance mode with the momentum in ears. You'll blow the earphones. Turning on the DAC does make a difference. It adjusts the power needed according to the headphones plugged in. Easy to drive and you're in low impedance mode. Over 50 ohms and you'll in high impedance mode. Whatever option you have active , the dynamic range is increased as well as the quality.
You can trick the LG using either an app called LG DAC Fix or an adapter that you plug in first , and the earphones into the adapter. But as I said you really don't need high impedance mode on those earphones as they're super easy to drive and go loud quicky.
@@GavinsGadgets Thanks for the answer but I can't see any difference when dac is active or not active :( Both are same sound quality .. And I was using lenovo vibe p1. Momentum have higher volume level at vibe p1. In v 30 plus it is low a bit. And today I tried dac mode with my friend's Marshall major 2, I felt amazing when dac is active. I felt obviously difference while dac is on. I wanna ask one question to you, if I buy high impedance in ear headphones like soundmagic e80c (64 ohm) , can I see difference like Marshall major 2
@@GavinsGadgets I tried lg dac fix but nothing happened because there is only one programme called dac fix for lg v10. I suppose it is only for v10
The momentums do not need a special DAC hence the difference is harder to tell. But there is a difference. Just try the LG DAC Fix app first and see if that works and keeps high impedance mode on. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phascinate.lgv10.dacfix
Hi, would the Superlux 668B be good enough to use with the LG G6? Or would KZ in-ear earphones be a better option? I need to find a good cost benefit because here in Brazil technology costs absurd!
Hi there. I am not familiar with either headphone. I had a look at the specs of the Superlux and on paper it looks like the LG G6 should be able to work fine with them. The KZ in ears would work ok too. Hope this helps.
Higher ohms is better?
Yes but overall volume may not be loud enough for some hence why some opt for 80 instead of 250 ohms.
@@GavinsGadgets thanks
Do you have suggestions for other headphones you can get in the US for the lgv30under $50? Mainly looking for in ears may get the new status audio iem 2x for 49but its a bit pricey for in ears to me...hopefully sound quality will be insanely good from status
Not really Bob.
Gavin's Gadgets what do you think about the status iem 2x? Thanks for the quick reply too
I've not heard them Bob, so unable to answer that one.
Hi, I've just bought a pair of Hifiman Edition X V2, would LG V30 be good with these headphones or I'd batter buy a DAP? And in the second case which DAP should I buy? Thanks
LG V30 should be fine with these. If you were to use a DAP I would look at something like an AK380, but its probably not needed with these headphones.
Thanks. I'll let you know!
Did you try 1more triple or quad driver earphones? I've heard a lot of nice things about them and their price is great.
Hi Goran. Not yet but at some point I intend to.
Hello!. I am new to sound Hi Fi.. Do you think that the ATH-M40x it is good enough for the LG V30? Best regards from Argentina, sorry because my poor english.
+Walter Cisneros yes they will be fine. The m50x would be even better if you can find them cheap enough
ath-m40x
If I choose a headphones with Impedance lower than 50 Ohms. Will LG G6's DAC enable high impedance device?
+Kumar Ramalingam no it uses normal mode which still offers a wider dynamic range. You can get a app call hifi dac fix that might work and trick phone
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond please give me the link to download
+Kumar Ramalingam play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phascinate.lgv10.dacfix
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond there is no different with my b&o headphones which comes with LG G6
+Kumar Ramalingam they are less than 50 ohms. Thats why
In pocketnow they say between 50 and 100 ohms v20 works best . would you agree with that?
+vanwanderer depending on headphones you can go higher. I wouldn't go more than 300 and it does depend on the headphone itself. I use 250 ohm Beyerdynamic headphones
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond i heard that dt770(80 ohms) are harder to drive than sennheiser hd600.and I read somewhere else that impedance isn't the only factor to consider.would you agree ?. I'm eventually planning on a dedicated headphone amp can you make a recommendation for hd600 or dt770?thx
There are other factors that come into it, hence my first reply. The sensitivity also counts. The Dt770 are 96db and the HD600 are 102db, meaning they are easier to drive from a sensitivity point of view. Overall, its a close call. As to a dedicated headphone amp, whats your budget, what are you going to connect it to and what sort of music do you listen too etc..
I'm planning to mostly my phone (note 4 now,v20 ordered) and my laptop .also ordered dt770 250 ohms . I'm new to quality music game . but still don't know enough about hardware except headphones.headphones are easy target . but don't know enough about amps dacs etc.so decided to go to buy a v20.my concern is that what if v20 can't drive dt770 250 ohms properly.in that case my budget will be like 200$. 300$ max.
Also I'm listening mp3 mostly .but as soon as I upgrade my gear,switch to hi quality files possibly.
Ok, im new to all this. I just bought a LGV60 with the quad DAC. The music sounds phenomenal thru a top-tier Tidal subscription and a app called USB Audio player pro using my $20 skull candy in ear buds. I bought the 250 ohm BD 770s and was not impressed. It sounds FLAT. Am I missing something? It doesn't sound full and rich. Now I can say I heard things in my music I haven't heard before using the new headphones. Like in the midrange areas. Longer echoes on vocals, pick nuances from guitars, but Im looking for a fuller richer sound. I've been watching videos and now hi-fi folks say sound signature is a personal thing. Some say I need the 80ohm version of these phones. Im exhausted. So many choices. Does anybody even understand what Im saying? Please help. I want so bad to understand this. Anybody? And Gavin thank you for your channel, I've learned a lot over the past week.
Maybe you need the 80 ohm version. Or just give you ears time to re adjust to proper audio.
@@GavinsGadgets I ordered the 80ohm version. I am going to Best Buy today to try out a lot of different headphones to see what I like. Could you explain "proper audio?" I listen to wide range of music. Smooth jazz, metal, rock, big band. Help me understand?
You brain just needs time to re adjust. Your skull candy are bass heavy. Real music is not bass heavy. Except maybe electronic etc. If you still prefer bass heavy that’s fine too.
@@GavinsGadgets AWESOME! Gavin! Ok the 80ohm version for me is it! Best Buy here didn't have anything to try out. All Bluetooth headphones. But, the 80ohm version of the 770s came in a day early. I've been listening a lot. The bass is punchier and solid more so on these. I like it. And the detail is AMAZING. You can hear the someone finishing the "t" in a Silent night Christmas song. And the piano guys "a thousand years" WOW the detail. On the cellos the 3rd note of each bar is played at a greater velocity. On these headphones they ring out vibrantly accentuated in the mix. Although very subtle, they arrive to my ears audible, and crystal clear. Thank you for the help. I understand now. I hope your holidays are well and bright! 😀
Glad you’re all sorted now. Enjoy the Beyers now 👍
I have a pair of B&W P7s. The impedance is only 22 ohms so will the quality of the v20 actually make a difference from my Iphoone7? I do mostly steam with itunes music but have no problem with streaming with Tidal if that would make an impact. Just looking for thoughts. I love the idea of a nicer DAC
+DJ Lumaye the V20 has better audio quality. The iPhone 7 restricts the audio bit rate. The V20 sounds better over Bluetooth as well. If you get a cheapish headphone amp, your P7’s will sound better. I have a iPhone 7 Plus and the audio difference is noticeable.
Thank you so much for getting back to me. Last question is this. I am available to upgrade my phone. What option do you feel would sound best for my headphones- Iphone 6s with headphone amp or the V20? thank you again.
V20
I use the sound magic e80s on the lg v series phones and love them very much
Nice :)
please tell me, in this combination bass is good?
Yes
Thanks ✌
My one issue with the Beyerdynamics is that they appear to have a fixed wire, knowing how clumsy I am with cables I think what Sennheiser is doing with their headphones is more practical, as they have a replacable cord. I'm very tempted to get the open cup beyers, they just look so classy and it really sounds like they're worth it.
+Jakub Białek the Beyerdynamic Headphones are very usable and serviceable. Hence there popularity in studios and commercial applications. All parts are changeable albeit not as simple.
I think you convinced me there, I guess I shouldn't be that worried. I've looked at other reviews and they also said their headphones are ridiculously durable. Awesome video, and thanks for your help!
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond okay couple observations. I got the 990s 250 ohms after some hesitation, I don't know what I was worried about. I've read some comments from people saying the sound signature is unbearable on the treble side, not sure if that's just me but I've had some other V shaped headphones for a while now so maybe I'm used to it, maybe my ears are damaged, lol. But I find the beyers sound just great. They get a bit pronounced at max volume, in my case the f sound more than the s, but they're plenty loud at 40-60 range. They get more than loud enough on the v30, and I just find their sound signature very pure and accurate. Still getting used to them, but I can already tell they're my kind of cups, they're just pure joy.
+Jakub Białek great feedback. Glad you like them. I certainly do 👍
Gavin Fabiani-Laymond like, for instance I've owned both generations of the Xiaomi dual driver hd pro earphones, I loved the signature of the first gen, but the trebles on the second one were so piercing it was out of my comfort zone, I was worried something similar would happen here, but luckily it's not the case. I know I'm talking about a different type of headphone the Xiaomi being earbuds, but I was still concerned. Anyway, great video indeed, and thanks for all your help!
I am confused between 80Ω & 250Ω version for my lg smartphone. Please show me a way.
80 goes louder, 250 is slightly more refined , but some people don't find there's enough volume, so 80 is more popular.
@@GavinsGadgets Thanks
Can lg v30+ thinQ power 250 one to the full potential ?
No problem
@@GavinsGadgetsM.E. reporting , thanks Sir !