Hey friends, LG phone dacs recognizes the impedance of whatever you plug into it and automatically goes into "normal audio device"(below 50oms) "External Audio device" "High impedance device"(50-600ohms)
You made a mistake when you said today's generation values the features and value of a device. They do not, they only value brand. If Apple released this device, they would be breaking their necks to get it for twice what Sony is asking for it.
Love how you’re the first reviewer to compare the LG V series which are great options as a dedicated DAP. The only things you didn’t really mention was that the Sony ZX707 has a volume limit affecting it’s sound signature if purchased in North America or Europe. Also that the LG V30 (V series phones in general) has a quad DAC that isn’t activated unless you use headphones that are 50 ohms and above. One way to trick it is use a pair of headphones with a detachable cable. Plug the 3.5mm in first tricking the device into thinking it’s connected to an Aux port and giving you the full rich sound that it’s capable of. Give it a shot if you haven’t already.
My V30 quad DAC works just fine with my 16 ohm headphones. I have no idea what you are talking about that only 50 ohm and above headphones will activate it.
@@j.t.cooper2963 th-cam.com/video/_L9CL1pAoTU/w-d-xo.html here is a link to someone explaining it. This is a thing across all LG V30-V60 LG G5-G8/X that have quad DACs
@@manuelhernandez6801 You're just getting more power. IIRC, 25% more power through aux, and 50% more power with a high impedance device. j.t.cooper2963's 16 ohm headphones should be getting enough power at 'normal'. You can also trick it if your cable connects to the earphone/headphone itself, by simply leaving not connecting them until after you've plugged in the 3.5 cable.
What version of the ZX707 did you use? The JP version is uncapped and offers more dynamics. Also, did you try the balance output? That's where this thing really shines.
I have to question... How is it a fair comparison when the Sony's 4.4 balanced output is not even talked about? The ONE major difference between the two devices being featured here is the Sony's 4.4 BAL output, which offers greater dynamics, punch, and extension. (And, the 3.5 SE on most Sony DAPs are known to be "soft" but "smooth" comparing to its 4.4 BAL output, which I assume you're not using.) Granted, if one doesn't own an audiophile-grade IEM to take advantage of the 4.4 BAL output, one would be better off going for the LG with consumer-grade earphones, but know that most of which won't be able to demonstrate a DAP' true capabilities.
Oh! LG Electronics you are truly missed in the smartphone space. From an LG G8X user and former V10 and V30 owner. My heart bleeds cause Sony is a scammer.
I bought an LG V50 in recent months, and it's been a good investment. For videography, video editing, and photography, I'm amazed at the possibilities.
LGV40 user chiming in. Combining my personal library or streaming TIDAL with UAPP pro and some IEM’s is perfect on the go. Sounds pretty good with a usb-c apple dongle Dac As well. My go-to when I’m cleaning on using public transit
Excellent review! I agree with you as I have had multi thousand dollar dacs that dont sound as good as the phone! Daps can be heavy, and expensive, and the LG is slick (works with every kind of app out there). I currently use my LG with a british headphone amplifier (Graham Slee), and Beyerdynamic DT 880s. MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN!!!!!!
You convinced me on buying a used V30, found one on eBay for $35. Waiting on a question I asked seller. I really like your channel, loved the vintage stereo shop show you featured recently! I live in general Denver area as well. I see Audio shows are coming back around the country since COVID, do you happen to know if that may happen in Denver again?
Hello Nice video - liked and subbed. With that said I wish you would of compared the Sony phone Xperia 1V vs ZX707 (if you must compare a phone to a dap) The Sony has many extra audio functions / filters over phones (even over the Sony 1 V). With the price of the sony phone over $1000 I would expeect the sound to be same. The ZX707 power is reduced in US, UK and other countries. I wish you would of mentioned that as its kinda like comparing a Scooter with speed restriction to a Corvette. Anyway nice video I want to watch more of your videos and I agree about the expereince of the "unboxing". Sony has went green (and kinda boring) with sugarcane and bamboo in the recycled packing.
It is like comparing a sport car with a daily driving car....if you are standing at a point on how a normal consumer would use the car, there is no one going to buy a sport car.
You are right. Unfortunately vast majority have never been inside a sports car, and they may not appreciate it - or they will think ford mustang or muscle car is better than a Ferrari la Ferrari because they don’t drive fast around corners (transients)
@@18yearsoldnot That's why I don't convince people who cannot hear the different between dap/dac and smartphone because smartphone can do the job well for them
@@lawlaw9176 the only way to do it is if they are a little bit interested in the first place. The way I convince my mum to have good speakers in her home is to make sure it’s playing before she can form an opinion
1.Congratulations on Fosi picking up your review. 2. At that price Sony should include their special audio tech. 3. A great PreAmp circuit and an average amp circuit can make a good device. 4. DAPs are just bubblegum for the mind while one is away from more serious listening options. 4. Theory of Operation: this is a technical description music is recorded today through multiple microphones & digital interfaces typically immortalized in a digital format. 5. HIFI has a goal to take those vibrations picked up by the microphones and reverse that previous process in a life like manner( this is what most audiophiles enjoy) DAPs Headphones are mostly a stop gap until you can get back to the thing that almost mimics the actual live performance. ( For some the audiophile path is an overcomplication to just hear the music) It takes a lot of work to access those micro-details in a top notch recording of a great performance that has to be paid for in time & energy or just raw cash sometimes both.
The great thing about manufacturers removing their headphone sockets is we can now choose from hundreds of dongle dacs. Sony is hardly the leading edge in portable audio anymore. There are many other options from China Shanlin, Fiio and at least a dozen more brands and Korea (Astell & Kern, formerly iRiver). When I was in the market for a new phone last November LG wasn't even available anymore so I went for a Google Pixel and got a iBasso DC04 Pro dongle.
Pretty much as per this video, is the quality and sound difference really worth buying and carrying a second device over your daily driver for the nth in performance? As with all audio, it seems to be diminishing returns, and this is a fair question.
Hey friends, LG phone dacs recognizes the impedance of whatever you plug into it and automatically goes into "normal audio device"(below 50oms)
"External Audio device"
"High impedance device"(50-600ohms)
You made a mistake when you said today's generation values the features and value of a device. They do not, they only value brand. If Apple released this device, they would be breaking their necks to get it for twice what Sony is asking for it.
Love how you’re the first reviewer to compare the LG V series which are great options as a dedicated DAP. The only things you didn’t really mention was that the Sony ZX707 has a volume limit affecting it’s sound signature if purchased in North America or Europe. Also that the LG V30 (V series phones in general) has a quad DAC that isn’t activated unless you use headphones that are 50 ohms and above. One way to trick it is use a pair of headphones with a detachable cable. Plug the 3.5mm in first tricking the device into thinking it’s connected to an Aux port and giving you the full rich sound that it’s capable of. Give it a shot if you haven’t already.
I am going to do a standalone video for the LG v30 in the near future, I'll definitely cover those topics. Thanks.
My V30 quad DAC works just fine with my 16 ohm headphones. I have no idea what you are talking about that only 50 ohm and above headphones will activate it.
@@j.t.cooper2963 th-cam.com/video/_L9CL1pAoTU/w-d-xo.html here is a link to someone explaining it. This is a thing across all LG V30-V60 LG G5-G8/X that have quad DACs
@@j.t.cooper2963 also my apologies you're tricking the Amp not the quad dac. That's on me
@@manuelhernandez6801 You're just getting more power. IIRC, 25% more power through aux, and 50% more power with a high impedance device. j.t.cooper2963's 16 ohm headphones should be getting enough power at 'normal'. You can also trick it if your cable connects to the earphone/headphone itself, by simply leaving not connecting them until after you've plugged in the 3.5 cable.
What version of the ZX707 did you use? The JP version is uncapped and offers more dynamics. Also, did you try the balance output? That's where this thing really shines.
I have the US version directly from Sony. I did try the unbalanced output and it was nice. However, for the review, I kept it 3.5mm to match the LG.
@@audioarkitekts that makes sense. Get your hands on the Japanese version trust!
The US and Europe variants have volume capped, so the result might be misleading. The Japan variant is what most people recommend.
I have to question... How is it a fair comparison when the Sony's 4.4 balanced output is not even talked about?
The ONE major difference between the two devices being featured here is the Sony's 4.4 BAL output, which offers greater dynamics, punch, and extension. (And, the 3.5 SE on most Sony DAPs are known to be "soft" but "smooth" comparing to its 4.4 BAL output, which I assume you're not using.)
Granted, if one doesn't own an audiophile-grade IEM to take advantage of the 4.4 BAL output, one would be better off going for the LG with consumer-grade earphones, but know that most of which won't be able to demonstrate a DAP' true capabilities.
Base on the description on the sound quality. The LG V30 B&O version has the same sound signature as the Sony Walkman.
Oh! LG Electronics you are truly missed in the smartphone space. From an LG G8X user and former V10 and V30 owner. My heart bleeds cause Sony is a scammer.
I bought an LG V50 in recent months, and it's been a good investment. For videography, video editing, and photography, I'm amazed at the possibilities.
I agree with comment below! I have a weird question, really liked the music you played early in video, would you mind listing it?
How about USB C DAC in dongle size for iPhone compare to ZX707?
The Dac on the LG G8 is better than them all. I have every LG device with a DAC. The V40 and G8 up the ante.
Agreed
LGV40 user chiming in. Combining my personal library or streaming TIDAL with UAPP pro and some IEM’s is perfect on the go.
Sounds pretty good with a usb-c apple dongle Dac As well. My go-to when I’m cleaning on using public transit
Nice!
I just got my brand new V30 today and it's excellent. Thanks for the tip! 👍🏻😎
I knew you'd like it 👍
Im gettin a brand new v30 this week, loop lol typing this on a v20😂
@@spooks1046 I got a brand new V-40 for $135 for my wife.
Excellent review! I agree with you as I have had multi thousand dollar dacs that dont sound as good as the phone! Daps can be heavy, and expensive, and the LG is slick (works with every kind of app out there). I currently use my LG with a british headphone amplifier (Graham Slee), and Beyerdynamic DT 880s. MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN!!!!!!
Oooo that sounds nice!
You convinced me on buying a used V30, found one on eBay for $35. Waiting on a question I asked seller. I really like your channel, loved the vintage stereo shop show you featured recently! I live in general Denver area as well. I see Audio shows are coming back around the country since COVID, do you happen to know if that may happen in Denver again?
Cedia is coming to Denver this year thankfully
Hello Nice video - liked and subbed. With that said I wish you would of compared the Sony phone Xperia 1V vs ZX707 (if you must compare a phone to a dap) The Sony has many extra audio functions / filters over phones (even over the Sony 1 V). With the price of the sony phone over $1000 I would expeect the sound to be same. The ZX707 power is reduced in US, UK and other countries. I wish you would of mentioned that as its kinda like comparing a Scooter with speed restriction to a Corvette. Anyway nice video I want to watch more of your videos and I agree about the expereince of the "unboxing". Sony has went green (and kinda boring) with sugarcane and bamboo in the recycled packing.
I would definitely be interested in checking out the Xperia! I’ve heard great things about it!
It is like comparing a sport car with a daily driving car....if you are standing at a point on how a normal consumer would use the car, there is no one going to buy a sport car.
You are right. Unfortunately vast majority have never been inside a sports car, and they may not appreciate it - or they will think ford mustang or muscle car is better than a Ferrari la Ferrari because they don’t drive fast around corners (transients)
@@18yearsoldnot That's why I don't convince people who cannot hear the different between dap/dac and smartphone because smartphone can do the job well for them
@@lawlaw9176 the only way to do it is if they are a little bit interested in the first place. The way I convince my mum to have good speakers in her home is to make sure it’s playing before she can form an opinion
I think the best MP3 player was the Sony Mini Disc. That really gave you the best of all worlds.
1.Congratulations on Fosi picking up your review.
2. At that price Sony should include their special audio tech.
3. A great PreAmp circuit and an average amp circuit can make a good device.
4. DAPs are just bubblegum for the mind while one is away from more serious listening options.
4. Theory of Operation: this is a technical description music is recorded today through multiple microphones & digital interfaces typically immortalized in a digital format.
5. HIFI has a goal to take those vibrations picked up by the microphones and reverse that previous process in a life like manner( this is what most audiophiles enjoy) DAPs Headphones are mostly a stop gap until you can get back to the thing that almost mimics the actual live performance.
( For some the audiophile path is an overcomplication to just hear the music)
It takes a lot of work to access those micro-details in a top notch recording of a great performance that has to be paid for in time & energy or just raw cash sometimes both.
That 'Khukri' though. Lit !!!
The great thing about manufacturers removing their headphone sockets is we can now choose from hundreds of dongle dacs. Sony is hardly the leading edge in portable audio anymore. There are many other options from China Shanlin, Fiio and at least a dozen more brands and Korea (Astell & Kern, formerly iRiver). When I was in the market for a new phone last November LG wasn't even available anymore so I went for a Google Pixel and got a iBasso DC04 Pro dongle.
You could always do that regardless of whether there was a 3.5mm socket or not.
That's not I knife this is a knife. Crocodile Mike
Exactly lol 😆
But. How does the LG compare to a new iPhone? Why buy a separate device?
Unless they are using an external DAC and headphone amp, new devices can't touch the V series.
Thanks for the reply! The LG must be amazing
@@davehall1924 surprisingly good 👍
But my headphones will probably need upgrading too!
Pretty much as per this video, is the quality and sound difference really worth buying and carrying a second device over your daily driver for the nth in performance?
As with all audio, it seems to be diminishing returns, and this is a fair question.
any bootloop and random restart on lg v30?
I think they solved the problem from the lg v10/g3 generation....my old lg v20 still works fine without software problems
The problem is I will keep the phone as a phone.
Another super realistic video, I like your style, you're for the average man whom is most of us 🤣
I'll keep my I phone and add a dragonfly dac if I need to travel with high quality sound.
That's a great way to do it!
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LG has pulled out of making mobile phones, sorry to say.
It's unfortunate 😕
@@audioarkitekts indeed!!!
👍🏻😎I've been looking for the best smartphone for audio.
Thanks buddy!
@@audioarkitekts I've been looking for the best smartphone option for music. Thanks for the heads up, Mike.