Compared: Apple Lightning Adapter vs Venture Electronics Abigail
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- Check out this video comparing the Apple Lightning Adapter and Venture Electronics Abigail! Discover which one performs better and suits your needs. We dive into the sound quality, compatibility, and overall user experience of these two popular DAC and Amps. If you're looking for a reliable and high-performing solution to enhance your audio experience, this comparison video is a must-watch. Join us as we explore the features and differences between the Apple Lightning Adapter and Venture Electronics Abigail.
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Let me clarify one of the important point missed. The apple dongle type C variant is much different from the lightening variant in terms of power and overall output. To put in perspective with my DT770 80 ohms I have to put the volume level to 100% while using the apple lightening dongle whereas for the same level of sound I need to drive it to only 60% while using the apple USBC dongle. Even the soundstage & the bass response improves to the level which can easily compete to DACs costing nearly 5k. Also android do decrease the power of the usbC variant but you can use apps like UAPP to redirect the output from the DAC instead of android resampling engine.
Hey there, thank you for providing further insight into the comparison between the Apple dongle's Type C and Lightning variants in terms of power and overall output. It appears that the Type C variant offers notable advantages, particularly in driving headphones like the DT770 80 ohms. The significant difference in volume levels required for comparable sound, as well as improvements in soundstage and bass response, showcase the capabilities of the Apple USB-C dongle. Additionally, you mentioned the possibility of Android reducing the power of the USB-C variant but highlighted the use of apps like UAPP to redirect the output from the DAC, bypassing the Android resampling engine. It's valuable information for those seeking to optimize their audio experience. Thank you for sharing your observations and shedding light on this aspect.
What would be a better choice for Android? Apple dongle or abigail or abigail pro?
Yeah iam using type c dongle for my iPad pro& it’s really good
@@prakashpothineni7752 hey ! I'm using an iPad pro M1 type c port ! What's best ?
does UAPP app needs root access?
Finally, I am going to buy Abigail . Thank u Headphone Zone such helpful content
Did u buy it
Hey, Do we have any other alternative to Apple Dongle for power hungry IEMs?
Helpful inputs, thank you for this video. As mentioned, the Apple dongle is available in C type connector. But is the Venture Abigail available in a lightning connector option?
Hey there, we are glad you liked the content. The Venture Electronics Abigail is not available in lightning variant.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🎧 Introduction to Dongle Comparison
00:26 🔌 Apple Dongle for Apple Ecosystem
02:29 📲 Venture Electronics Abigail for Android Users
04:06 🎶 Technical Differences
05:54 🔨 Build Quality Comparison
06:37 💡 Conclusion and Recommendations
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I have a question for the Abigail dac and pls help me with that, does this have in-line mic support for calling, or is it going to use my phone's microphone when I plug my IEM?
Hey there, Abigail supports mic pass-through.
@@headphone_zonebut it doesn’t support mic pass through in iphone.
Hi, I'm using Mi 11x which doesn't have a 3.5mm jack so I'm looking for a dongle. I tried 3 or 4 different dongles like kinsound, oneplus etc from Amazon but they all get disconnected while using if I move my phone (don't know if it's the problem of the dongle or my phone). I'm looking forward to buy the Abigail dongle but I'm not sure if it's gonna do the same.
Hey there! It sounds like a bit of a tech mystery. 😕 If multiple dongles are facing disconnection when you move your phone, it might be worth checking if the USB connector on your phone is loose. As for the Abigail dongle, it's known for its stable connection, but it's always a good idea to ensure the phone's USB port is secure too. If you have any more questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask. Here's to seamless audio adventures! 🎧🔌
Guys what do you suggest The ve abigail pro or the DDHIFI Dac? Also mention what the difference is if you can.
A couple of things are different. The build quality and cable quality of he Headphone Zone X DDHIFI Hi-Res DAC is just at another level all together. But the power output is the biggest difference-65mW. The Headphone Zone X DDHIFI Hi-Res DAC has a dedicated amplifier in built, that the Abigail Pro doesn't. So you can really amp the Headphone Zone X DDHIFI Hi-Res DAC up, and the headphones and IEMs sound a lot fuller, and more effortless.
I am experiencing a hissing sound when listening through Abigail. It happens rarely though, but its annoying when it happens. My IEM is Tangzu Wagner and phone is Pixel 6a.
Can you kindly review the Apple's type C DAC as well?
Cracking or hissing. Cuz hissing should be consistent ( all time) not song dependent. While cracking could be.
Yep this is true, I've had the same experience, luckily for them returned and picked up the zero with typec
I dont have any noise with my Abigail and Wan'Er
Apple type C dongle is one of the best if paired with the apple device. Only thing is to use this with android it depends on the device if it allows to run at full power or not. I need to use UAPP in order to run in full power however thats same for some of other dongle dacs as well.
Use Jcally Jm6 Pro. It's more powerful then Abigail but no noise at all.. at 1400
I also had hissing from Abigail
May i please know whether the Abigail supports mic input as well? Some IEMs and headphones have mics so its necessary info.
Yes, the Abigail has a mic pass through.
@@headphone_zone thank you
Hey ! Im using a ipad pro M1 chip ! It has a usb c port ! What's the better dac or dongle for it ?? Please! Confused Because of the type c port in ipad pro m1 ! As apple is picky with their usb dongle situation!
apple dongle has mic support in it and is versatile to use for listening music and playing games, taking calls . If u only want music experience go for any better quality dac as it will give u more clarity but u will not be able to use mic of the iem
Got apple 15 series with type C.
Any update which one would be better? I have blon for balanced with a lil bit of base and sony too.
Which one shall I get? New apple type C jack or any other one?
Hey there, we haven't had a chance to try the new Apple type C adaptor but we can say that Venture Electronics Abigail Pro is definitely something you can consider.
Try jcally jm7
Wouldn't you have to use something like UAPP to get actual lossless music out of an Android phone? If so, please mention that in the video as it is an added step which many people might not be knowing about
Hey there, off-late we have been observing with Android 13 that it plays audio bit perfectly without needing additional software. This is especially true with Apple Music, but if we are talking about offline files, UAPP is a hidden gem and the easiest way to get bit-perfect audio.
@@headphone_zone what about android 12?
I play high res lossless on my Android phone using Poweramp. It's a fantastic app with a beautiful user interface and a very deep settings menu.
Can I Use The Abigail Pro On My MacBook As Well, Or If I Want To Use It With The Upcoming iPhone 15 Pro With Type C Will It Be Compatible With That? Just Need The Assurance Before Making This Investment.
I’m thinking of buying focal bathys but I’m confused now should I get focal or B&W PX8
Hey there, we recommend going for Focal.
Currently I'm a user of edx pro. My next budget is around 2k. Should i go for zsn pro x or something else.
Hey there, You can definitely go for the KZ - ZSN Pro X.
Does it support samsung s20 fe 5g? Also is Moonlight click any better than this?
Both are same
It will connect all type c phones.
Because it's dac not just connector
Im going to buy salnotes zero from HZ
Should i buy 7hz 71 dac amp or go with Abigail pro
Im using s21 fe and it natively supports lossless audio with type c iems
The new Headphone Zone X ddHifi - Hi-Res DAC is a great pick.
Can you help out with options for iPhone 15 which is now type C?
Hey There, just drop us a message on our socials and we can help you find something you'd like!
I have KZ ZSN Pro X, should I go for Venture Electronics Abigail or KZ AM01?
Hey there, go for the KZ-AM01.
now the apple 15 series already in usb-c , question does Abigail work at it?
Yes! It will be compatible.
Do i need to buy a separate dac even if my phn support hi-res audio?
Yes only if you want a better reproduction of the audio files, or else your internal dac can play those files but won't be that good.
FINALLY !!! HeadphoneZone agreeing that Apple dongle is the best budget dongle out there for IEMs. I had no problem with type C on my Android phone so far, I use AKG K361. I had VE Odyssey HD but apple beats it big time, only place it trumps is Power output.
Hey there, the Apple dongle has managed to win over even the toughest sceptics! Who would have thought? It's always impressive when a small dongle can make such an impact. As they say, size doesn't matter, it's all about the power output! Happy listening with your AKG K361 and your trusty Apple dongle
many people complained that apple dac does not work properly with android devices.
@@josaphcj7199 well that is true, it is now working on my IQOO 7 but the power output is less. Though enough for running AKG K361. It works like a charm on my PC.
which one is better Venture Electronics Abigail or Jcally JM6 Pro? please suggest me
Hey there, we have not got a chance to try the Jcally JM6 Pro yet, although we can say that the Venture Electronics Abigail sounds very clean. It is powerful and perfect to pair with IEMs.
Now that iphone has type c will the abigail cable provide better experience than apple cable on an iphone?
Both the Abigail and the Apple dongle perform exceptionally well. While the differences may be subtle, it's worth noting that the Abigail can handle Hi-Res tracks with capabilities beyond 48kHz. The choice ultimately depends on your specific preferences and requirements. Happy listening! 🎧📱
@@headphone_zone Hi I just bought kz castor from you website and am using iQOO Neo 7 and it comes with an iqoo adaptor but I don't think it will give the best of it so should I buy this dac(pro version on your website since old one is discontinued) or should I go for kz dac since Abigail and kz one are at same price.
I'm thinking of buying 7hz Salnotes Zero, Just confused between which Dongle Dac to go with VE Abigail vs VE Abigail Pro!?
Pls help me out.
Hey there, we recommend going for the Abigail Pro.
Hello folks! Will the apple type c dongle work on my Samsung S21Fe? If yes, should I go for it or the Abigail? If no, then is the Abigail the only budget option? I have a KZ EDX IEM. Thank you 🙏
Hey there, while it will be compatible, Samsung tends to have issues with external outputs hence we recommend doing USB debugging using a reference video incase you face any issues. Hope you find this helpful, Keep the music playing!
@@headphone_zoneNever had issues on any Samsung phones I used
It's works! With UAPP you can increase the volume to 100%. Enable UAPP>SYSTEM>RELEASE AUDIO DRIVER, increase volume to maximum then play a track (I play silent track), pause it then exit the UAPP. Now you have 100% volume instead of limited 50% everywhere.
Does the apple dongle(type c variant) work well with Android devices?
It should work, however as we've not tried using it, your best bet would be to personally try it out.
SNR is low ? Are you sure ? SNR is low means it is bad. check once again.
Bad? What’s bad? Can you explain?
@@NagarajCruze SNR= signal to noise ratio. which means signal/noise. very low SNR indicates that low signal compared to noise. which means noise power is more compared to the signal (audio) power.
The reviewer may have told like very low SNR by mistake. we need high SNR.
Bhasha pe na jaake Bhawana ko samjhe 😂
Seems like he said snr instead of noise
Hi there. You're right. That was a mistake, what I meant was that the noise floor is very low. Thanks for pointing it out.
Hi headphonezone can you suggest an iem and a portable dac for me?
I was sony wf1000xm3 user.What is the minimum budget range that will suit me?
The xm3 had no low bass at all. The highs were too high and a bit harsh. I'm a bit treble sensitive.
I need sub bass and good separation, treble that is not harsh and tinny and mid that is not thin.
I am also using jays x five. The treble is very harsh and the bass is very low. I want something different from the sound signature of both.
Thanks
Hey there, if you can let us know about a budget you have in mind, then suggesting a setup would be easier.
@@headphone_zoneThanks for your response,
My budget is around 5000 rupees.
The abigalil doesn't work in my Samsung a33 5g phone , how can i get it to work please.?
No sound, nothing on screen.and i bought 2
Hey there, Samsung tends to have issues with external outputs we'd recommend doing a USB debugging using a reference video.
So will poweramp player work to prevent android resampling for 96 khz files?
Yes. But only in hires mode.
And you to select sample mode as well
I had a doubt for so long, planning to get the salnotes zero, they come in 3.5 mm and type c so what would be better,
getting the type c and plugging it in directly OR get the 3.5 mm and pair it with a dongle
Best case is to buy 3.5mm & couple with a DAC / buy another type-C cable with dac chip
Get the type c version if you want to save money else there is no end to it in this hobby.
@@shreetherockstar bro suggest best type c headset for pubg mobile gaming for vivo x60 pro compatible . Will inbuild C type headset is equal to 3.5 in performance . Please suggest fast buddy . Iam about to buy.
@@syedansar7908 being a pubg player myself, i can tell you Salnotes zero is the best for gaming, the spacial positioning and imaging it gives i at par to even headphones. You can get the type c version which should be a nice upgrade to the ones provided in the box.
@@shreetherockstar Thanks bro , so instead of buying dongle and 3.5 mm it is better to directly buy c type salnotes zero . Best rate link please if you have . Best price i checked is 1999
I bought this abigail dongle along with my new iem earphone which I bought from Headphone zone !! But it’s not working as expected when I use it with pixel 7!! Time to time the pixel 7 glitches where the volume would go completely low or completely high !! Which is frustrating!! Do I have to change some setting in my android device ??
Oh, it seems like you're experiencing a bit of a glitchy dance with your Pixel 7 and the Abigail dongle. No worries, it happens sometimes. To help sort this out, you might want to check a few things. First, make sure your phone's software and any related apps are updated to the latest versions, as updates can often fix compatibility issues. If the problem persists, you can reach out to us at direct@headphonezone.in for more specific troubleshooting steps. It can be frustrating, but with a little troubleshooting, your audio experience should be back on track! 🎶📱🔌😅
@@headphone_zone Sure !! Thanks for the prompt response!! 😊 Will reach out to your guys !!
@@karthikk273 did they help?
@@prakashvaswani8616 nope!! If u see the comment they are trying to say that my pixel phone is glitching.. actually it was the dongle !! I tried it with multiple phones and it's the same problem!
can we directly use IEM type -c to iphone 15?
or do we need iphone typ-c to 3.5 adapter and then 3.5 IEM
Hey there, yes a Type - C IEM will be compatible with your device!
Please compare ibasso dc04 pro, fiio ka3 and shanling ua3
Hey there, we have a series of comparison videos planned. Do keep an eye out on the channel.
Info :- *Apple dongle use a cyrus logic dac chip*
Please suggest an alternative for apple lighting adapter.
How about using the new Headphone Zone X ddHifi - Hi-Res DAC, and using the Hidizs LT 03 adapter for use with the Lighning Port.
Plz compare Abigail vs Abigail pro brother and tell us when will they come on sale pls❤
Hey there, we have a series of comparison videos coming up, we recommend keeping an eye out on our channel.
Venture Electronics - Abigail Pro
Does it support on galaxy s22 ?
I'm sceptical to buy as it no DAC support my phone and your site has no return policy.
So let me know if it fully work with s22
High end Samsung, All iPhones and All Google pixel need Dongle with DAC Included, and Abigail Pro DAC will work and will work Great for your Samsung.
i am confused af, Is Abigail compatible with Apple products, As Abigail is not MFi certified ? will Abigail work at it's full potential if i have IPad Air + Truther HOLA ?
Absolutely! While Venture Electronics - Abigail may not be MFi certified, it does work with Apple products like the iPad. You can enjoy high-resolution audio with them. Keep the music playing! 🎧📱👍
Thanks for the reply, this means a lot to me.@@headphone_zone
Plz recommend dac for hi res in iphone
Hey there, you can go for the iFi Audio - GO Link.
Iam having samsung galaxy s23 ultra currently iam using samsung's official DAC should i need to buy Abigail ?
No, not required
Hey there, while Samsung's official DAC provides satisfactory performance, it is worth considering the additional benefits that Abigail brings to the table. Abigail acts as a transformative force, bestowing upon you a heightened audio experience that transcends ordinary boundaries. With its remarkable capabilities, Abigail unlocks a new dimension of sonic richness and immersion. Therefore, if you yearn for an enhanced audio journey filled with unparalleled brilliance, Abigail may be a worthy addition to your repertoire. However, the final decision rests with you, as you determine the path to sonic perfection.
@@headphone_zone does abigail work /support in samsung s23 plus?
Does venture electronic avani work with samsung (s21 fe)
Hey there, Yes! the Venture Electronic Avani will be compatible with your device, although Samsung devices sometimes do face issues with external outputs so if you were to face issues we recommend doing a USB debugging using a reference video. Happy listening!
its a shame that it wasnt VE abigail pro 🙁
Can i use it with Nothing Phone 2? Please confirm and then reply.
It should.. they have a Type C port.
Thoughts on cxpro ?? Plz
Hey there, we haven't got a chance to listen to the CX Pro but looking at the specs sheet it has the same DAC Chip as the Abigail, so logically speaking there should be little difference between the two.
#Does this abigal DAC comes with amp ?!
The brand has not provided any concrete information about this and hence we wouldn't be able to help you out here.
VENTURE ELECTRONICS - ABIGAIL does it. Support in pixel 4
I used both of them personally, leaving all the jargon behind there are three simple difference.
Abigail is more powerfull (25% Power of Abigail is 50% Power of Apple Dongle)
Apple Dongle is more intimate, smaller soundstage, more organic timber
Abigail is more open, sparkly in treble, resolution is better
can anyone tell me that will the apple dongle will work with nothing phone 1?
Hey there, the Apple Type-C to 3.5mm adapter will work with Android phones or any device that uses the USB-C protocol.
How can I listen hi res music on iPhone?
Get Apple Music, go to settings > music, change the audio quality to hi res lossless or the highest possible and plug in this dongle cuz wireless and phone speaker will never give you the best quality like this dongle with headphones/earphones/IEM’s will
I just ordered hexa which is best dac for me
Hey there, It's just the variant colour not different from other colours in terms of sound.
Waiting for Abigail to test and see how my phone reacts
You people should give a list of smartphones available to suit the needs of an audiophile
From our testing it works with almost all Phones and tablets using USB type c apart from the Samsung S21,22 and 23 series
Hi, Does Abigail Support Apple losses Hi-Res quality bitrate in an Android Device?
Hello there! It's interesting to note that with the recent updates, devices running on Android 13 now can play music in Hi-Res Lossless format on Apple Music. So, if your device is equipped with the latest Android OS and updates, you can use Abigail and indulge in the immersive experience of Hi-Res Music.
@@headphone_zoneI've Android 12 does it support apple hi res with Abigail?
@@izzatzaman99that means Abigail is useless...i think I've wasted my money
@@izzatzaman99ok ... thanks for the reply
okay so if I am using android which is better? apple dongle or Abigail? using android 13 with apple music.
Is this support in iqoo z7 pro
Hey there, Yes! it will be compatible with your device.
I bought the Venture Electronics Abigail pro
can u please give a review
Reliable??
Which one is better
Kz am01 or venture electronics abigail
Both the KZ AM01 and Venture Electronics Abigail are highly capable DACs. You can go for either of them.
@@headphone_zone does it make any difference if I'm using dac and iem while listening to music in spotify?
@@headphone_zonedoes it make any difference if I'm using dac and iem while listening Music in spotify?
What about Apple's USB C to 3.5mm DAC ??
We haven't tried the USB C dongle yet.
I bought both. Apple one is far better when connected to apple device compared to abigile pro connected to Android. The difference is not small.
This was something I was looking for .. thanks man .
Whats the difference between abigail and abigail pro in terms of sound ??
Price lol
better cable and build, and the pro comes in a 4.4mm port and build.
Hey there, in terms of Tech specs and audio output, they are almost identical but the Abigail Pro comes with better build quality and is also available in Balanced output variant.
Have you tried the groove onn! Duh!
good measurements and good sound are often two different things. In the grand scheme of things the apple dongle is only slightly better than a regular phone output (sound). Never heard ,,abigail,, but comparing ,,abigail pro,, to the apple dongle, there is no competition in actual sound fidelity. Apple dongle is harsh and congested, while abigail pro is smooth organic and big sounding. I recon that abigail pro is just slight upgrade to the OG abigail so the OG abigail should also destroy the apple dongle.
Hey there, You're spot on! Measurements can provide valuable data, but the listening experience can be subjective. It's interesting to hear your comparison between the 'Abigail Pro' and the Apple dongle, highlighting the differences in sound quality. Your perspective on the 'Abigail Pro' and its likely improvement over the original 'Abigail' in comparison to the Apple dongle is insightful. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this!
@@headphone_zone thank you. What will good measurement of the apple dongle get you? Well it audibly sounds clean (But TBH in many measurements u cant even hear a difference). But when it comes to real audio experience apple dongle can sound muddy in the bass, it can have harsh lower treble and layering and separation is poor for me. For 10bucks it is sufficient and better than a regular phone. Its highlit is clean sound...
What's the difference between Abigail ana Abigail pro
Hey there, in terms of Tech specs, they are almost identical but the Abigail Pro comes with better build quality and is also available in Balanced output variant.
@@headphone_zone which one you prefer pro or non-pro
apple dongle has major problem of extremely low volume on Android phones. even my 16 ohms jbl c150si sounds extremely quite on it
go for abigal bro
Get jcally Jm6pro. It has same chip but as amp as well. And no niose at all. At 1400
@@fuzail3379 what's its price? because i don't want to invest much, max 20$ is my way to go
@@greedyboi8431 it's 17$. If you are from India it's 1500 rs..
@@fuzail3379 at first i thought you meant 1400$ 😂
I bought apple dac for 400 ₹ it's a steal
Hey, did you get it from the Croma store?
What about OnePlus type c to 3.5mm jack ? Much cheaper and better 🤔
It doesn't work with any other brand's phone. OnePlus has a dac in the phone. The dongle is just that, a dongle
@@sumersharma9534 most normal single dd iems don't need a dac/amp usually
@@sumersharma9534 it atleast works with nothing phone 1,maybe it does not work with other phones though,although i am not sure what good options are for indian android users in term of a dac
Hey there, the OnePlus adapter is just for audio pass-through. There is no decoding (Digital to Analogue Conversion) that occurs in that particular device.
@@yogavardhang2349as you say… planar magnetic driver iem needs DAC and amplifier… as this driver is little bit expensive and uses More energy to drive !
To Run Truthear X Crinacle Zero Which DAC Would I Use On My Vivo x60 Pro Plus? 🙄 🤔
Hey there, you can go for the Venture Electronics Abigail.
@@headphone_zone I Am Looking Around 5k DAC
@@brandycorvette up your budget a bit and go for Ibasso Dc03 pro
I also have x60 pro plus . Suggest best earphone for pubg mobile gaming . Should I buy directly type c earphone or 3.5 through dAC ??
@@syedansar7908 If it's, X60 pro Plus, you absolutely don't need any external dac
The phone actually uses a Cirrus Logic CS43131 DAC and has the Hi Res certification as well. This DAC offers support for headphones up to 600 ohms of impedance.
*This is the same dac I am using in my Ibasso dc04 pro an audiophile grade dongle which cost 10k inr*
Hey can I attend calls with venture electronics Abigail?
Yes! The Abigail has mic bypass allowing you to take calls while connected to your device.
Jcally jm6pro
It's all about "Shauk" kyonki shaukkk badi cheez hai😂😂
Jcally jm6 pro better😁 using it with my truthear hola and kz zex pro
i m getting low volume on apple dongle. even at 100% volume
Hey there, you can try out a dedicated DAC from our website that may suit your preference.
So we can use #Apple Dac + #iem to #iPhone with few limitations …. 1. It only supports Lossless not high resolution lossless
2. It only supports normal iem not high power driven iem
3. Do not produce much volume with android devices…
Sure.. you could. Nothing wrong in starting there.
Does Abigail support nothing phone 1
Hey there, Yes! it will be compatible with your device.
Use a better mic, this one has too much nasal tone.
Hey there, thank you for pointing it out. We will work on our audio recording for the videos.
@@headphone_zoneyes you guys should this is very poor quality audio coming for an audio focused channel
Hi
Hey there, how can we help you?
@@headphone_zone can you please reply to my comment on the recent video😅
India and European Apple adapter is pretty weak conpared to US one.
Hey there, the performance and capabilities of Apple adapters can vary based on regional variations and regulations. While it's true that there may be differences in the power output or other specifications between adapters designed for different regions, it's important to note that Apple typically designs its adapters to meet the specific requirements and standards of each market. This ensures compliance with local regulations and optimal performance within the given region. Therefore, the perceived differences in performance between adapters from different regions may be due to specific design choices made by Apple to cater to the needs of each market.
Apple dongle is much better