From what I have learned thus far with soldering gold filled wire, you need to use boric acid and denatured alcohol to coat the piece before soldering. You quickly heat it up so that the mixture dries and then apply a fluxed piece of gold solder to the joint. That will prevent firescale. You only heat the joint where you want the solder to flow. Additionally, you need to use clean pickle that is only used for gold filled. The plating you experienced was probably from using the same pickle that you use for your silver. I really appreciate you sharing how easy making this ring was and look forward to seeing future videos. I love the idea of using the pre-made blank for the back plate.
I've been working with gold filled for a while, a couple of comments. The gold filled bead-wire is pretty fragile. Rio recommends using it for non-stressed decorative uses only. I tried some stacker rings and they break pretty easily if stressed. The other comment is, the bezel Rio sells is gold on one side only and it's very difficult to tell which side. So you have to be careful to get the gold side on the outside.
Thank you for your insight. The beaded wire is fragile, I’ve learned the hard way! I currently wear two stacking bands and they’ve held up thus far. I was unaware that Rios gold filled bezel wire was single clad. Thanks for that info. The necklace I’ve made have kept there color so far.
Glad you came across my channel! When I first started making jewelry there wasn’t any solid videos on how to work with gold filled so I figured I’d help others.
Thank you for producing this video. I work a lot with silver-filled metal and often wondered if it could be soldered. Now that I know that gold-filled metal can be soldered, I've got my answer! ;-) Nicely done video, by the way. Clear, concise, step-by-step instructions, thoughtfully edited and filmed in focus. What more could a person ask?
That disc that you got has exposed brass on the sides. It was cut with a disc cutter. It doesn't usually pose any problems.. but you definitely cannot sand gold filled. At all. It exposes brass and you won't know it till later when it tarnishes.
@@abbytruelsen7280 You can only lightly polish gold filled, anything really abrasive will remove gold and expose the brass. Its just the nature of it. :/
Then what I would like to know is how do you clean up the solder join on the bezel itself. It’s not addressed in the video but I have never made a bezel that didn’t need some sanding of the solder join.
Thank you for sharing this! I too have searched for videos on how to work with Goldfilled and hadn’t had any luck. Thank you for a easy to follow video too. Did you have any difficulty setting the stone in the bezel? Did you use a regular bezel pusher?
I was wanting to know how you cleaned up the solder joint on the bezel since you can’t really sand GF? I also want have gold bezel on silver backplate but am assuming lyou would have to use Gold solder for the bezel join and silver solder for the backplate join. Advice?
@@thehautebohemian5753 thank you, please do more gold filled videos if possible! Your like the only one I’m seeing who makes clear and good videos on this. Thx!
I am looking for find gold filled jewelry process. how we make gold filled jewelry. My idea i want to make jewelry in silver and want to change into gold filled. It is like plating or something else. I am sill confuse.
Plating and gold filled are two different things. Gold filled has a layer of gold bonded to a brass or copper core metal. I do not make my own so I don’t know to make it.
Hi there. I’m using 10k solder. At 2:39 in the video I mention the solder and show a close up of the label. The label gives the item number used when ordering on Rio Grande to make it easier. Hope this helps.
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From what I have learned thus far with soldering gold filled wire, you need to use boric acid and denatured alcohol to coat the piece before soldering. You quickly heat it up so that the mixture dries and then apply a fluxed piece of gold solder to the joint. That will prevent firescale. You only heat the joint where you want the solder to flow. Additionally, you need to use clean pickle that is only used for gold filled. The plating you experienced was probably from using the same pickle that you use for your silver. I really appreciate you sharing how easy making this ring was and look forward to seeing future videos. I love the idea of using the pre-made blank for the back plate.
Thanks for the tip! Always helpful in the jewelry making process
I've been working with gold filled for a while, a couple of comments. The gold filled bead-wire is pretty fragile. Rio recommends using it for non-stressed decorative uses only. I tried some stacker rings and they break pretty easily if stressed. The other comment is, the bezel Rio sells is gold on one side only and it's very difficult to tell which side. So you have to be careful to get the gold side on the outside.
Thank you for your insight. The beaded wire is fragile, I’ve learned the hard way! I currently wear two stacking bands and they’ve held up thus far. I was unaware that Rios gold filled bezel wire was single clad. Thanks for that info. The necklace I’ve made have kept there color so far.
I love making jewelry and getting ideas..glad to finally find a channel that work with goldfilled
Glad you came across my channel! When I first started making jewelry there wasn’t any solid videos on how to work with gold filled so I figured I’d help others.
Love your video, thank you; very thoughtful. So happy you shared your gold-filled process.
Thank you for producing this video. I work a lot with silver-filled metal and often wondered if it could be soldered. Now that I know that gold-filled metal can be soldered, I've got my answer! ;-)
Nicely done video, by the way. Clear, concise, step-by-step instructions, thoughtfully edited and filmed in focus. What more could a person ask?
I know , but your video is just what I’m looking for ❤ Thank you 😊
Thank you for sharing your experience. I am thinking about trying GF bezel wire on top of my silver foundations, mixed metal basically.
You’re welcome! Love the mix metal look!
That disc that you got has exposed brass on the sides. It was cut with a disc cutter. It doesn't usually pose any problems.. but you definitely cannot sand gold filled. At all. It exposes brass and you won't know it till later when it tarnishes.
Hi, it’s been a year since you commented but what would you suggest polishing the gold filled bezel with considering you cannot sand it?
@@abbytruelsen7280 You can only lightly polish gold filled, anything really abrasive will remove gold and expose the brass. Its just the nature of it. :/
Then what I would like to know is how do you clean up the solder join on the bezel itself. It’s not addressed in the video but I have never made a bezel that didn’t need some sanding of the solder join.
This turned out really nice! You might have already done this, but any videos on your polishing methods? Thanks for sharing!
Thank you! The only think I do for polishing is to use a tumbler. I also use the pro polishing pads from Rio.
A charcoal block might help prevent the metal from overheating, that's what I prefer to use.
SO helpful! thank you for sharing
Thank you for sharing this! I too have searched for videos on how to work with Goldfilled and hadn’t had any luck. Thank you for a easy to follow video too. Did you have any difficulty setting the stone in the bezel? Did you use a regular bezel pusher?
Stephie glad to hear the videos were helpful! I used a regular bezel pusher and it worked great.
Did you use hard for the bezel wire and medium for attaching the bezel to the back plate?
I used easy for everything. You could definitely use a mix of hard and easy but it’s so expensive I just stick with easy.
I love your channel
How did it hold up after you wore it around for a while?
It held up well. No tarnishing.
That’s awesome :)
Hi, would you happen to know if one can put a goldfilled bezel on a silver ring or the other way around and how to do it? I like the combination.
Yes you can definitely mix metals. I’d use silver solder because it’s way cheaper than gold!
@@thehautebohemian5753 thanks! Tutorial???😃
I was wanting to know how you cleaned up the solder joint on the bezel since you can’t really sand GF? I also want have gold bezel on silver backplate but am assuming lyou would have to use Gold solder for the bezel join and silver solder for the backplate join. Advice?
I've tried it with yellow silver solder instead of gold. I think if you use little solder you wouldn't have a whole lot to clean up.@@dawnchastain2030
Hi! Where do you recommend getting gold filled wire + sheet? Love your videos
Thank you! I buy all my metals from Riogrande.com
@@thehautebohemian5753 thank you, please do more gold filled videos if possible! Your like the only one I’m seeing who makes clear and good videos on this. Thx!
What is the media under your fire brick in the oan?
Pan
It is pumice stone. I ordered it from Riogrande.com
I am looking for find gold filled jewelry process. how we make gold filled jewelry. My idea i want to make jewelry in silver and want to change into gold filled. It is like plating or something else. I am sill confuse.
Plating and gold filled are two different things. Gold filled has a layer of gold bonded to a brass or copper core metal. I do not make my own so I don’t know to make it.
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What do you use to clue the stone to the cup? thanks
I typically don’t use glue but if your concerned about the stone coming loose you could use E6000.
what is the vapo that you bought for the firescale?
Mélodie Levasseur hi there, I’m. It sure what you mean by vapo. Could you further explain? Thanks!
What kind of solder did you use? You don’t say in the video. Thx
Hi there. I’m using 10k solder. At 2:39 in the video I mention the solder and show a close up of the label. The label gives the item number used when ordering on Rio Grande to make it easier. Hope this helps.