I run a version of this deck that goes the group-hug route: let people draw more cards, give other players at the table lots of creatures and such, and then Kardur comes in and makes them all murder eachother! Feels like Kardur is playing with toy soldiers sometimes!
@@Luger714 I tens to find that insurrection/mob rule works most of the time, but blade of selves (especially when delina wild mage is in play) had been a standout in the deck as well since all of the copies of kardur which you have to sacrifice are tapped and attacking, so they drain the table as all of the copies see eachother die. That paired with monarchy pieces (nobody can steal it from you if they are always goaded) generally means I'm always in a position to win the 1v1 :) of course sometimes not everything goes your way but that's just the game!
Goad is one of the best ways to deal with problematic creatures. "This is my combopiece!" "I don't give a damn, it's goaded and we all can blockkill it." "Nnoo!"
Fun fan theory about you. I think you understand deck building so well that I would bet WOTC designers go off your builds when making new decks. I say this because there is a correlation between your decks, reprints and the value of some cards going up. This video is one of those, 2 years ago these cards were on budget, now some are 9 bucks. I say all this because its fun to contemplate but also, this is a long winded compliment to your builds. Thanks, as always.
I like that within the 1st hour of this video being uploaded the price tripled 😂 Love the deck - probably will still buy it to suffocate my friends with non-stoppable goating
Glad becoming more feasible in commander is awesome, love this. I just built the new commander background duo with Red/Blue. So fun! Just a bunch of protection/vultron and let me opponents kill each other with creatures. :)
Any of the instant speed sacrifice outlets could also be used during combat to sacrifice an attacking creature to trigger the commander's effect, even after the creature has dealt damage
Seems like a lot of the deck techs lately have revolved around blinking or death blinking the commander over and over again. Not saying these are bad decks but it would be nice to see some decks that didn't rely on these mechanics so heavily.
Well that Archetype just got a ton of support, so a lot of otherwise lacking decks now have very budget options thanks to baldur's gate being dirt cheap ATM.
Loved the deck! as usual! already buying the deck! Will try to slowly making it optimized, I just returned from MTG, so this deck will be my returnee deck, which suits since I will be returning my Commander all the time lol
Nice decklist. Quick question. After checking TCG Player and Card Kingdom, I couldn't find the cards for $10. Are your videos released to patron first, and is that why card prices go up?
If you cut the basic lands (everyone has basics, if youre a new player w/out basics go to an LGS and there will most likely be a stack of basics for you to choose from for free), you can get the deck for $12 w/ optimizing you can get the deck for 8.50 (Excluding shipping)
I added it, price originally was 800 or something when it optimized couldn't figure out why. The lands it optimized for me were like the most expensive versions coming 1 or 2 per seller. 30 to 40 each. Removed lands ended at 18 or so
I'm curious about a rules interaction with this deck. We learned back in Kamigawa that there's a phase of the combat step after combat damage is dealt, where a creature is still considered to be an unblocked attacking creature for the purposes of Ninjutsu. Would this then mean that with Kardur on the board, can I attack someone with a cloned creature, hit their face, and then sacrifice it to trigger Kardur's second ability?
I've been running an altered version of your Jegantha / Keruga Populate deck, and part of my alterations involves multiple copy cards that Remove the Legend Rule, such as Double Major. And let me tell you, multiple copies of Kardur is a NIGHTMARE. Not only do you get the same effect as here, but the Health Loss / Gain ALSO stacks 😲 This? This creation you've put in front of me? It's evil. I haven't even played it and I KNOW it's evil LOL
I just purchased this deck and I was curious about possible upgrades. I'm definitely getting conjurer's closet and rionya fire dancer. I also have demonic, vampiric, grim, profane, diabolic tutors and mastermind's acquisition available to add into it. which of those should I add and what to take out?
Yay! A meme deck that could actually be playable! And it's so cheap it's worth my time to just buy the deck and not dig thru my collection to find everything I already have! Great work CQ team!
I love silly fun stuff like this. I'd be laughing my a$$ off even if you were my opponent/ not me playing it. Decks like this are why I play the game. Silly, inventive, fun ways to win. One of my favorite decks of all time(I still have it) is dagger burn from standard some years ago. It wins by drain/ gaining opponents to death.... by giving them creatures +panharmonicon doubling effects. I have won so many games outta nowhere with my life😮total in the low single digits. It gets silly very quickly once set up.
If you're going to put a Squirrels picture up as your thumbnail and then not include any squirrels in the deck list, I'm just gonna unsub. I don't need that kind of disappointment in my life, not from my TH-camrs. This has to stop.
definitely building this deck for my playgroup.... we do the King, Knight, Bandit, Assassin thing..... this will come out if I am the King! Mwahahahahaha >:- )
kardur say "..if able". must attack if able, and a not you if able. if youre the only opp, they still have to attack (first part) but cannot choose someone other than you (using the "if able" on the second clause) so you have his etb trigger when its you vs them, all their creatures must attack you.
I built this deck, basically. Not budget though. My playgroup absolutely hated it, and I eventually disassembled the deck in favor of friendships, lmao.
I found this video’s Thumbnail misleading. I was hoping for some kind of squirrel deck. It’s just a demon goad deck, like come on where are the squirrels?!
i wouldnt call unstable obelisk "a great way" to get rid of something, 7 mana for a removal spell is brutally expensive and you have to sac the obelisk and because it requires a tap as well you cant use the obelisk mana to help with the cost
I wouldn't even play against this deck lol. Goad and discard decks I just immediately walk away from. That's the good thing about playing at an LGS, you have multiple groups to choose to play with, so you can easily avoid annoying decks/people
Update!! Two years later this deck is no longer $10… It’s $111 on TCG player… it’s $57 worth of cards and the rest is shipping… smh I built the same deck with all the same cards for $80 ordering most of the cards on Amazon and some on eBay. I even got some alternate art and some secret lair cards. I guess with tcg there is the reassurance that are ordering everything from one website with one transaction and you get to pick the quality of the cards. Badass deck but two years later the value has skyrocketed.
You posted this video an hour ago and the min price for the deck with heavily played cards is 18 dollars with the market price being 28 and the median being 44 dollars. Why do you post it saying it’s $10??
I like that within the 1st hour of this video being uploaded the price tripled 😂 Love the deck - probably will still buy it to suffocate my friends with non-stoppable goating
What's annoying is the use of squirrels as thumbnails but not including any squirrels in the deck.
Like my friend and his squirrel deck with barely any in it
I run a version of this deck that goes the group-hug route: let people draw more cards, give other players at the table lots of creatures and such, and then Kardur comes in and makes them all murder eachother! Feels like Kardur is playing with toy soldiers sometimes!
Makes you less of a common enemy too
@@Octobouch until you get all the stuff you gave away back with insurrection... :D
I’d be interested in some win strategies so I don’t get stuck with my last friend OP
@@Luger714 I tens to find that insurrection/mob rule works most of the time, but blade of selves (especially when delina wild mage is in play) had been a standout in the deck as well since all of the copies of kardur which you have to sacrifice are tapped and attacking, so they drain the table as all of the copies see eachother die. That paired with monarchy pieces (nobody can steal it from you if they are always goaded) generally means I'm always in a position to win the 1v1 :) of course sometimes not everything goes your way but that's just the game!
You gotta drop the deck list. I am very interested in this
I love the fact goad is becoming a semi-evergreen mechanic. It's been one of my favorites. Another great one Mitch!
Goad is one of the best ways to deal with problematic creatures. "This is my combopiece!" "I don't give a damn, it's goaded and we all can blockkill it." "Nnoo!"
Fun fan theory about you. I think you understand deck building so well that I would bet WOTC designers go off your builds when making new decks. I say this because there is a correlation between your decks, reprints and the value of some cards going up. This video is one of those, 2 years ago these cards were on budget, now some are 9 bucks. I say all this because its fun to contemplate but also, this is a long winded compliment to your builds. Thanks, as always.
I love annoying my friends.
I like that within the 1st hour of this video being uploaded the price tripled 😂 Love the deck - probably will still buy it to suffocate my friends with non-stoppable goating
I would love to see more budget companion decks along with the new commanders+backgrounds please 😁
Dont forget about Conjurer's Closet, alittle more over a dollar but it can blink Kardur on your endsteps
Another great one mitch, I would love to see an upgraded and break the bank versions of this too.
happy to see more deck techs for this guy; he leads one of my favorite decks to play
The piece has literally trippled 😲
Glad becoming more feasible in commander is awesome, love this. I just built the new commander background duo with Red/Blue. So fun! Just a bunch of protection/vultron and let me opponents kill each other with creatures. :)
Mirrorbox is incredibly powerfull in this deck
can you elaborate please
@@kopi0180 cuz you dont have to sac the copies immediatly
@@yannickronnert6367 Oh ok the legendary rule, that makes sence. Thanks.
Any of the instant speed sacrifice outlets could also be used during combat to sacrifice an attacking creature to trigger the commander's effect, even after the creature has dealt damage
Seems like a lot of the deck techs lately have revolved around blinking or death blinking the commander over and over again. Not saying these are bad decks but it would be nice to see some decks that didn't rely on these mechanics so heavily.
Well that Archetype just got a ton of support, so a lot of otherwise lacking decks now have very budget options thanks to baldur's gate being dirt cheap ATM.
To be honest, with all the "when this card enters" effects, it's going to have to be abused, not used whenever.
Got a Kardur deck. So funny when it really ties everyone up. I rarely win with it tho tbh. That’s just part of the fun tho
"Destroy your friends" I wouldnt have any friends left... "Annoy your friends" Im down with that.
Loved the deck! as usual!
already buying the deck! Will try to slowly making it optimized, I just returned from MTG, so this deck will be my returnee deck, which suits since I will be returning my Commander all the time lol
You had me at annoy your friends
Love it, butting this deck very soon. Also, what if I am only playing 1 opponent? Who do they attack then, no one?
Ah yes, squirrels. They are quite the pest. Even if they look adorable.
My comment was baited so hard. I just wanted first comment.
I absolutely love this series
Nice decklist. Quick question. After checking TCG Player and Card Kingdom, I couldn't find the cards for $10. Are your videos released to patron first, and is that why card prices go up?
If you cut the basic lands (everyone has basics, if youre a new player w/out basics go to an LGS and there will most likely be a stack of basics for you to choose from for free), you can get the deck for $12 w/ optimizing you can get the deck for 8.50 (Excluding shipping)
@@Swnkmstr thanks, I'll look into it!!
Thanks for the reply jake I had the same question
I added it, price originally was 800 or something when it optimized couldn't figure out why. The lands it optimized for me were like the most expensive versions coming 1 or 2 per seller. 30 to 40 each. Removed lands ended at 18 or so
I'm curious about a rules interaction with this deck. We learned back in Kamigawa that there's a phase of the combat step after combat damage is dealt, where a creature is still considered to be an unblocked attacking creature for the purposes of Ninjutsu. Would this then mean that with Kardur on the board, can I attack someone with a cloned creature, hit their face, and then sacrifice it to trigger Kardur's second ability?
I've been running an altered version of your Jegantha / Keruga Populate deck, and part of my alterations involves multiple copy cards that Remove the Legend Rule, such as Double Major. And let me tell you, multiple copies of Kardur is a NIGHTMARE. Not only do you get the same effect as here, but the Health Loss / Gain ALSO stacks 😲
This? This creation you've put in front of me? It's evil. I haven't even played it and I KNOW it's evil LOL
I just purchased this deck and I was curious about possible upgrades. I'm definitely getting conjurer's closet and rionya fire dancer. I also have demonic, vampiric, grim, profane, diabolic tutors and mastermind's acquisition available to add into it. which of those should I add and what to take out?
Jaxis is one of the nastiest cards released recently. I have her in three different decks, she just does so much
I only have 3 EDH decks right now though. I have Gruul dragons, Rakdos Vampires, and Atraxa SF.
Yay! A meme deck that could actually be playable! And it's so cheap it's worth my time to just buy the deck and not dig thru my collection to find everything I already have! Great work CQ team!
What would some good upgrades to this deck be? Just curious.
How can you see this decklist?
Any chance on a Break the Bank with this one?
I love silly fun stuff like this. I'd be laughing my a$$ off even if you were my opponent/ not me playing it. Decks like this are why I play the game. Silly, inventive, fun ways to win. One of my favorite decks of all time(I still have it) is dagger burn from standard some years ago. It wins by drain/ gaining opponents to death.... by giving them creatures +panharmonicon doubling effects. I have won so many games outta nowhere with my life😮total in the low single digits. It gets silly very quickly once set up.
If you're going to put a Squirrels picture up as your thumbnail and then not include any squirrels in the deck list, I'm just gonna unsub. I don't need that kind of disappointment in my life, not from my TH-camrs. This has to stop.
I clicked this specifically looking for squirrels
definitely building this deck for my playgroup.... we do the King, Knight, Bandit, Assassin thing..... this will come out if I am the King! Mwahahahahaha >:- )
How does this work when it’s down to the last two people?
kardur say "..if able". must attack if able, and a not you if able. if youre the only opp, they still have to attack (first part) but cannot choose someone other than you (using the "if able" on the second clause) so you have his etb trigger when its you vs them, all their creatures must attack you.
Maybe something went wrong when I followed the link but when I did it the best price I got on this deck in the link was $98.
ashnod intervention is pretty good if your commander costs too much
I hope I'm not the only person that when they saw "sing the doom song" instantly thought of Grr from Invader Zim singing "Doom da doom doom doom doom"
One on one, this commander kills!
i want to see these played in commander games. every week, there is like 1 game and 4 decks. 5 videos a week!
Solid idea.
rionya also works
"fountain of i-core" hehe
I built this deck, basically. Not budget though. My playgroup absolutely hated it, and I eventually disassembled the deck in favor of friendships, lmao.
it was $10 when he made it but it's almost $30 now
I found this video’s Thumbnail misleading. I was hoping for some kind of squirrel deck. It’s just a demon goad deck, like come on where are the squirrels?!
Needs Syr Konrad, the Grim.
Hmm, I see a Mercy Killing combo her.
i wouldnt call unstable obelisk "a great way" to get rid of something, 7 mana for a removal spell is brutally expensive and you have to sac the obelisk and because it requires a tap as well you cant use the obelisk mana to help with the cost
I wouldn't even play against this deck lol. Goad and discard decks I just immediately walk away from. That's the good thing about playing at an LGS, you have multiple groups to choose to play with, so you can easily avoid annoying decks/people
Update!! Two years later this deck is no longer $10… It’s $111 on TCG player… it’s $57 worth of cards and the rest is shipping… smh I built the same deck with all the same cards for $80 ordering most of the cards on Amazon and some on eBay. I even got some alternate art and some secret lair cards. I guess with tcg there is the reassurance that are ordering everything from one website with one transaction and you get to pick the quality of the cards. Badass deck but two years later the value has skyrocketed.
Fountain of I-Kor
Bruh it’s been a week this deck costs 27 grand
👍
Conjuerers closet
You posted this video an hour ago and the min price for the deck with heavily played cards is 18 dollars with the market price being 28 and the median being 44 dollars. Why do you post it saying it’s $10??
dont count the lands
I picture a troll playing these heavily damaged cards without sleeves. Cant get any more annoying than that.
so no squirrels eh
You might want to retitle this video, it's over $30 to build this deck
Did you for real say mirage “Phal-Nax”??? Eddie is really droppin the ball lately smh.
I just clicked the link and this deck is not $10. It’s more like almost $300.
DUH
Damn, sadly this deck is over $100 now
Mitch: I love your content and this deck in particular. But you *gotta* stop using synonyms of "annoy" in the thumbnail of your videos.
And suddenly u become Common Enemy... Cause it disturb every player gameplay...
Being the common enemy only means so much if nobody can ever attack you
This deck is 50$
It was also made in 2022. Time and price creep are powerful things
Not 10 dollars
DUH
Yoo
I like that within the 1st hour of this video being uploaded the price tripled 😂 Love the deck - probably will still buy it to suffocate my friends with non-stoppable goating