Lets see: Sonic Mania- -Lead by Christian Whitehead -Using updated classic engine -Same Physics as classic games -HD 2D sprites -Elemental Shields -3 separate playable characters - Upbeat, non limited soundtrack -Not a numbered title -Mini bosses in each Act -Possible Blue sphere mini-game -Unique and creative levels. Yep, John literately got everything he, and every classic Sonic fan wanted. Huzzah!!
I just wish it was an original game rather than focusing on rehashing older zone... that and Amy Rose was playable. I also wish the game wasn't trying to be the Saturn Sonic game that never was, but I suppose graphics mean dick-all long as the game's fun to play so hopefully it will be. Hopefully if the game's a smash hit, it'll either get a sequel or some real DLC, character packs would be well worth the money.
A) Levels are remixed extensively B) There are new levels C) The possibilities of the shields and classic gameplay of the main trio are still not fully realized D) The graphics are amazing, I have no idea why you complain about them. Are you some kid born in the late 1990s/early 2000s who thinks 2D is inferior to 3D, even to Mania looks more timeless than any Sonic game in the 3D era, save for Colors and above?
Guypersonmanthing3 No, I was born in 1984, I'm just sick and tired of the nostalgia retro crap you see in a lot of 2D video games. Mega Man 9/10, Shovel Knight, VVVVVV, Undertale... It just looks lazy and it's really overdone. Like at least Skullgirls and Cuphead are trying traditional animation. Like, that's what I've been hyped to see forever now, a video game with fluid animation that pushes the limit... instead we just got 3D animation... Which I guess is fine, but I just would like to see a traditionally animated game with effort. At least there's Sonic 2 HD... and I guess Rayman, that's a sweet lookin' game. Though yeah, personal preference and just sick of seeing graphics trying to take you back to the '80s-'90s. Like if I wanted to see old-school graphics I'd just play the old games. SEGA's a big company, they could put some effort into presentation. Aunno the game could be fun, but I'm not expecting something as great as Sonic 3 or 2... or Advance... Maybe something as good as Sonic 42 or Sonic CD or something.
Deuce Moncura The millions of people who watch IGN’s reviews do. They’re one of the most important outlets in the industry. As for scoring, you misunderstand. The scores are meant to be a shorthand for summarizing how a reviewer feels about a game. They’re not and never were meant to be everything. You were always supposed to read the rest of the review first. And that’s all your faults. Also, IGN’s Dan Stapleton has openly said that even if IGN stopped having scores, people would just go somewhere else to get them.
So them saying Unleashed sucks cause of the controls even though they jumped over a ramp like idiots and claiming Sonic was never good despite earlier games saying otherwise. Definitely worthwhile people to check out.
Hey John...you know how you wanted a 2D Sonic game made by the Christian Whitehead staff, using their engine...? Look like your wish was granted with Sonic Mania ;)
i actually heard on wikipedia that dimps is making a new dbz game and its going to be the best dbz game yet Dragon Ball Xenoverse (officially abbreviated as Dragon Ball XV) is an upcoming video game based on the Dragon Ball media franchise.[3] It will be released on PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Xbox 360, Xbox One, and Microsoft Windows. Players can create characters from multiple races, with the ones available being Saiyans, Namekians, Earthlings, Majins and Frieza's unnamed race.[4] Xenoverse will also be the first Dragon Ball game released on some eighth generation consoles as well as PC. more info here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Xenoverse
munsi0121 :O get the fuck outa here! that game will be BEAST :DDD, definitely gonna be the best DBZ game yet, custom characters, SWEET, sorta like mii fighters in super smash bros 4 on the wii u and 3DS
That goes to show what happens when you focus too much on your past accomplishments instead of making new ones. So many other and possibly better games could've been made by Sega if they weren't desperate to reclaim their former Sonic glory. if Sega ever wants to be a competent again, they need originality...or at least start looking forward so they don't keep crashing.
If Dimps had used something from the ground up or actually dug up the Advance engine instead of an early form of the Colours DS engine and had incorperated level design combining Sonic 3's and Advance's (minus the overabundance of bottomless pits, basically the start of the game's level design), it would have been much better.
"The entire game will be released sometime in 2016" Looks at calendar. It's 2015 and still no episode 3. Seems Johnny shouldn't go into fortune telling.
I feel like this game's biggest problem is the fact that it plays by itself most of the time. I mean, speed-boosters, the abundance of springs, endless bubble chains, etc.
@@nobodyinparticular9640 Lol uh. I mean I got Limited Run's Collectors Edition when that was first announced so I'm not gonna be playing it until that comes out, which will be at least a couple months
MrSadman667 Sonic 2006 WAS Sonic Adventure 3. I just offended so many people. But I've now just given Sonic haters MORE reasons to sh*t on 3D Sonic games at the same time.
I want them to port all three as an actual cartridge game for 3DS, but change the physics so that it works better and so that the games feel more streamlined and maybe add Tails to ep. 1. (Again, for streamlining. They don't even have to give you the option to select a separate episode, just put all 10 levels in 1. And maybe expand Metal Sonic's mode, giving him unique physics, allowing him to access all 10 levels, and make it harder than the original levels to offer challenge to those like Johnny, who obvs was left a bit unsatisfied with the difficulty here)
This game was kinda fun for me actually. With all the negative things I've heard about it, I thought it wouldn't be that fun (a similar scenario took place with Unleashed). But if you look past the originality, it actually is actually almost as good as the classics. In fact imo, there are a few things things this does _better_ than the classic games, like the co-op as Johnny mentioned. I do wish it was longer, and maybe give a little extra for 100%ing it. And yes, that Metal Sonic statue is awesome.
12:36 The reason the lyrics were taken out because the songs were created by the band dreams come true and they holded the rights to the lyrics and all Sega could get the rights to was the beat
the lyrics are missing from the sonic cd port because the person that did them sadly passed away. so it was decided to keep them out as a form of respect.
from what i could dig out: "Christian Whitehead aka “The Taxman” followed the discovery up with the below message at the Sonic Retro forums suspecting legal rights issues: My guess is that since Casey Rankin is no longer alive, there might be problems negotiating the use of the lyrics outside of Japan."
Sonic 4 as a whole was very disappointing. The level design in my opinion wasn't enjoyable, because it feels like every level plays itself, and THE CONSTANT BUBBLES CHAINS! They could've done so much more with the story, ending on a very small and empty note, not to mention that they did nothing with the Ancient purple energy they added. Episode Metal is the most rehash I've ever seen in any video game. Oi, looking back, Shattered Crystal is more exciting than this.
+Douglas The Hedgehog Agreed, and both Sonic 4 episodes are already aging poorly for their terrible level designs; a lot of boring automation and very annoying split-second reaction times that Dimps keeps shoving into their games since the Sonic Advance games just made it not fun. Dimps just doesn't learn from their mistakes to stop forcing us to memorise the levels.
+Elijah Toombs Why should I? The Constitution (assuming you live in the US) clearly states my right to say what I want whenever I want to say it. And besides, it's not like this is some Nazi propaganda or anything, it's just me stating my opinion on Sonic 4 as a whole in a very calm and mature way. If you have a problem with this, then I would suggest you to fuck off, and bother someone else with your rude behavior.
If Sega wants to release a proper successor to the genesis titles, than the first thing they should do is call it anything other than Sonic 4 or 5 or whatever. No direct sequels, make somethign in the spirit of those classics, with similar gameplay and level design. Something similar should be done for the Adventure series if it ever gets brought back.
wikipedia There is an unused "To be Continued" scene found in the coding of the game. Originaly, it was to play after the player defeated the Egg Heart of Death Egg Mk.II with all seven Chaos Emeralds. This proves that Sega has considered an Episode III.
Really looking forward to be playing it on ios... PS: Sega.... FIX FUCKING EPISODE 2 FOR iOS!!! iOS 8 IS ALMOST HERE!!!!!!!!! JUST HURRY UP WHATS YOUR EXCUSE I PAYED MONEY! THIS IS ILLEGAL I SUE U FIJEEHHRHOFUIEIHOIEF
Funny how Mr. Whitehead would continue to use this new engine used for remaking Sonic CD to recreate Sonic 1 and 2, even going so far as to complete the Hidden Palace Zone as a secret level in Mystic Cave Zone in Sonic 2. Seriously, pick up the Mobile version of Sonic 2, the Special Stages are even fully 3D now!
1:54 Easy. It's a separate timeline. The main series console games exist in the bad future, and the handheld games exist in the good future. Both are vastly similar, but have different events in both timelines, even when overlap occurs
I had that Sonic figure at the end myself at one point. I can attest to the fact that the head was heavy as shit, and as a result it fell off. Decapitated Sonic is not a pretty sight.
***** Yeah I agree.. that's why in my mind, Sonic 4 doesn't exist lol. At least the story doesn't exist. I play the game if I'm ever bored or want to do a sonic co-op with someone, but that's it..I just see it as a NSMB type of game, and not a worthy sequel to S3&K
***** Yeah, which makes NO sense to me -_- .. Sonic CD really doesn't even belong in the classic Hedgehog canon. It's just Sonic 1,2, and 3&K. It's assumed that CD happened in between 1 and 2 though. But then Dr. Robotnik downgrading from Metal Sonic to Silver Sonic (Sonic 2) and Mecha Sonic (Sonic 3&K) is weird
***** yeah it had to be before 1. Because Sonic 2 goes straight to Sonic 3 if you connect them. After the Death Egg is partially destroyed in Sonic 2 is crash lands in Sonic 3, and that's where Sonic/Tails come in with the plane, and that's why he's still Super Sonic
There's only Mecha Sonic and Metal Sonic..... Silver Sonic is a nickname for Mecha Sonic, unless you're talking about Silver the Hedgehog from Sonic 06.
Thank you John for mentioning the best port of Sonic CD! I bought it at the day it came out on Xbox Live Brazil and it was totally worth it! I hope Christian Whitehead and his team may have the opportunity to remaster Sonic 3 & Knuckles or even do new Sonic games 16 bit style!
I hated the halfpipe in Sonic 2 for 1 reason and one reason only. WHEN YOU HAVE TAILS WITH YOU AND HE STEALS THE RINGS FROM YOU< HE WILL GET HIT AND MAKE YOU LOSE! This was the most annoying thing to have ever happened to me in a Sonic Genesis title, and for that reason I hate Sonic 2. Seeing the mechanic return makes my blood boil.
I find Sonic 4's soundtrack in general to be a bit… off? They try to make it sound "Genesis" but add too much of the "twang" that the classic Sonic games lacked, especially in Episode II. They should've tried to limit the music to what an actual Genesis can handle, and them throw the same style of remixing they used for the Classic stages in the HD version of _Sonic Generations_ into it. And also, I definitely would rather see a _Sonic the Hedgehog 5_ rather than a _Sonic 4: Episode III_. Better yet, why not a 2-D series that isn't a direct continuation of where Sonic 4 or the classic games left off? _Sonic Advance_ has a following, you know!
And also, I definitely would rather see a _Sonic the Hedgehog 5_ rather than a _Sonic 4: Episode III_. *Better yet, why not a 2-D series that isn't a direct continuation of where Sonic 4 or the classic games left off?* _Sonic Advance_ has a following, you know!
This was my first official 3D Sonic Game as my Mother installed this game on her Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 for my Brother. Only problem is, it was a Demo Version because she was very cheap.
Btw, if you happen to have a Genesis Retropad, it works with Sonic CD. A is confirm, B is back, Start is well, start, and A, B, X and Y also jump. Unfortunately, Z and C don't do shit, but you can't have everything, can you? Besides, you're not missing anything. *edit* Sonic CD on the PC I mean.
JacobDSProductions The other games? What other games? I experimented with the controller in Sonic Generations, just BARELY managed to get every important button binded down to a button on the controller, it's not the best idea tho xD
Sonic fans: go back to the older style! Sega: *makes sonic 4 and sonic mania, which go back to the older style.* Sonic fans: no, too unoriginal, its a rehash of the older style! .... Guys, this is why Sonic Boom exists. Sega doesn't know what you want because YOU don't know what you want.
Chase Plays Some Games But my point is is that the game incorporated both Sonic counterparts with level design that was new but also was true to Sonic's roots, even in the Modern era. That's one of the main reasons people loved it, aside from just nostalgia.
That's the problem: they didn't create this as a sequel, this was nothing more than just a simple nostalgia ride. How Johnny said, it was severely lacking in any innovation, just rehashing old shit. And with episodes they just take the three level structure and recreate Sonic 1, 2 and 3 with just few new gimmicks. This is not a sequel. It's just a shitty nostalgic remake. And I can't stand those. To a degree I'm glad Episode 3 was canceled.
Lets see:
Sonic Mania-
-Lead by Christian Whitehead
-Using updated classic engine
-Same Physics as classic games
-HD 2D sprites
-Elemental Shields
-3 separate playable characters
- Upbeat, non limited soundtrack
-Not a numbered title
-Mini bosses in each Act
-Possible Blue sphere mini-game
-Unique and creative levels.
Yep, John literately got everything he, and every classic Sonic fan wanted. Huzzah!!
Correction,
"-2 Separate playable characters, and knuckles."
I just wish it was an original game rather than focusing on rehashing older zone... that and Amy Rose was playable.
I also wish the game wasn't trying to be the Saturn Sonic game that never was, but I suppose graphics mean dick-all long as the game's fun to play so hopefully it will be.
Hopefully if the game's a smash hit, it'll either get a sequel or some real DLC, character packs would be well worth the money.
Actually, they've said that around half the game will be brand new zones, so it's not entirely just remaking the old stuff.
A) Levels are remixed extensively
B) There are new levels
C) The possibilities of the shields and classic gameplay of the main trio are still not fully realized
D) The graphics are amazing, I have no idea why you complain about them. Are you some kid born in the late 1990s/early 2000s who thinks 2D is inferior to 3D, even to Mania looks more timeless than any Sonic game in the 3D era, save for Colors and above?
Guypersonmanthing3
No, I was born in 1984, I'm just sick and tired of the nostalgia retro crap you see in a lot of 2D video games. Mega Man 9/10, Shovel Knight, VVVVVV, Undertale... It just looks lazy and it's really overdone.
Like at least Skullgirls and Cuphead are trying traditional animation. Like, that's what I've been hyped to see forever now, a video game with fluid animation that pushes the limit... instead we just got 3D animation...
Which I guess is fine, but I just would like to see a traditionally animated game with effort.
At least there's Sonic 2 HD... and I guess Rayman, that's a sweet lookin' game.
Though yeah, personal preference and just sick of seeing graphics trying to take you back to the '80s-'90s. Like if I wanted to see old-school graphics I'd just play the old games.
SEGA's a big company, they could put some effort into presentation.
Aunno the game could be fun, but I'm not expecting something as great as Sonic 3 or 2... or Advance... Maybe something as good as Sonic 42 or Sonic CD or something.
13:00 ...4 years later, SONIC MANIA.
Yep.
ikr, spooky
It took 4 year jesus
SerialK86 isn't it 5?
Like, it's in 2012 and now it's 2017
Figured I'd mention it's almost 2016... and still no Episode III.
Episode 3 was canceled a long time ago
I was referring to Johnny's comment regarding the time he expected it to come out when he did this review.
Sonic 4 Episode III: Revenge of the Original Level Design
+TheUltimateBeing01 No, they cancelled it because something went wrong during development.
I think canceled it )=
A moment of silence for Johnny's ratings. They will be missed...
Justin Miller Gaming -JM Gaming- I could really use the ratings for the Adventure games honestly.
Deuce Moncura The millions of people who watch IGN’s reviews do. They’re one of the most important outlets in the industry.
As for scoring, you misunderstand. The scores are meant to be a shorthand for summarizing how a reviewer feels about a game. They’re not and never were meant to be everything. You were always supposed to read the rest of the review first. And that’s all your faults.
Also, IGN’s Dan Stapleton has openly said that even if IGN stopped having scores, people would just go somewhere else to get them.
@@FraserSouris U don't get why IGN sucks, hm?
@@godofwar234regi5 The reasons seem to be blind hatred as opposed to any actual points
So them saying Unleashed sucks cause of the controls even though they jumped over a ramp like idiots and claiming Sonic was never good despite earlier games saying otherwise. Definitely worthwhile people to check out.
Well, it's 2016...
Episode III was canceled...
Sorry to tell you that.
We're not missing much.
+Nintendo Network we'll it's basically the same thing
you're right but there is Sonic 4 Episode metal
mabye before they were going to update episode II for a different ending, maybe a true finale boss?
also, who know, MABYE they will start it it again, it alway a possibility.
Valve In Pre-School
Teacher: 1... 2... 3!
Valve: 1... 2... (3333 years later) 4!
13:00 Spongebob Narrator: *4 Years Later.......*
Chase Tyler lolz
"On the ground Sonic and Tails 69 their way through all sorts of obstacles"
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HARD I LAUGHED ONCE I GOT IT
I just realize that!! LOL!!!!
I don't get it
Disgusting!
Matt Reynolds IKR!
sooooo bad XD but hilarious, like south park LOL
Well, it looks like they're making the sonic 4 you want now.
13:00 Johnny predicted Sonic Mania
2:54 "You have all of Sonic's speed in addition to Tails's flight capabilities."
Also known in the classic games as "playing as Tails."
13:00 Johnny can predict the future confirmed!
Hey John...you know how you wanted a 2D Sonic game made by the Christian Whitehead staff, using their engine...? Look like your wish was granted with Sonic Mania ;)
I swear if mania has the blue spheres I will CRY JOY
+Derpinator 9000 I also love the Blue sphere special stages!
***** why?
+Derpinator 9000 I will cry tears of sadness if it has sonic 2 special stages
blue spheres wasn't my favorite special stage. I never got pass most of them because it speeds up.
Welcome to sonic team we make games i think...
Hey Dimps
WTF is a physic
thats probably why sonic sometimes just goes "Physics? What are those?" especially in sonic 06
i think dimps secretly developed 06
munsi0121 that actually makes a lot of sense. they seemed to do fine with DBZ infinite world though so wtf happened with S4 and 06?
i actually heard on wikipedia that dimps is making a new dbz game and its going to be the best dbz game yet
Dragon Ball Xenoverse (officially abbreviated as Dragon Ball XV) is an upcoming video game based on the Dragon Ball media franchise.[3] It will be released on PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Xbox 360, Xbox One, and Microsoft Windows. Players can create characters from multiple races, with the ones available being Saiyans, Namekians, Earthlings, Majins and Frieza's unnamed race.[4] Xenoverse will also be the first Dragon Ball game released on some eighth generation consoles as well as PC.
more info here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Xenoverse
munsi0121 :O get the fuck outa here! that game will be BEAST :DDD, definitely gonna be the best DBZ game yet, custom characters, SWEET, sorta like mii fighters in super smash bros 4 on the wii u and 3DS
14:00 Major moment of character development from Johnny right here.
Watching this right after your new VS treatment of this game. You have improved a lot. Congrats!
It really sucks that Christian Whitehead's awesome Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 remasters are mobile devices only... I hate using the touch screen
Yeah I really wish Sega would get Christian Whitehead to make a Sonic 3 & Knuckles remaster and release it along with Sonic 1 & 2 on consoles
Sonic CD was on PS3/Xbox... THE CHRISTIAN WHITEHEAD VERSION!!!! Why don't they use that?
semagekam They already did, the mobile devices were the first to be ported.
***** Oh, ok. Thanks for the clarification!
use a Bluetooth controller
They were planning on a episode 3 but cancelled it due to the failure of 1 and 2
Damn shame if there's anything I hate more than a mediocre game is an incomplete trilogy
well plans for ep iii were in development when ep i was released but at the time of ep ii it was canceled
That goes to show what happens when you focus too much on your past accomplishments instead of making new ones. So many other and possibly better games could've been made by Sega if they weren't desperate to reclaim their former Sonic glory. if Sega ever wants to be a competent again, they need originality...or at least start looking forward so they don't keep crashing.
If Dimps had used something from the ground up or actually dug up the Advance engine instead of an early form of the Colours DS engine and had incorperated level design combining Sonic 3's and Advance's (minus the overabundance of bottomless pits, basically the start of the game's level design), it would have been much better.
"Anything is better than this"
Sonic Lost World 3DS Special Stages? :D
***** No shit.
***** It is male genitals or i'm wrong ?
Bouffe Ton Galil ! Sounds liek ur a little pervy, actually. lol
PKMN 5D's No, he edited his comment.
Bouffe Ton Galil ! Oh, my bad lol
10:07 "We don't even know if there's going to be an Episode III."
Narrator's Voice: "Spoiler alert. There wasn't."
I think I see some Valve - SEGA collaboration here. Coincidentally, neither HL2 and this game have any Episode 3...
XD, but i wish that valve would count to 3 though ;_;, WHERES MY HALF LIFE 3 OR HALF LIFE 2 EPISODE 3 DAMNIT
BU DUM TISS!
Or portal 3 or TF3
engineer has 3 types of buildings 3 types of class and engies buildings go back to level 3
Sheeeeeiiit
"Where is the blue sphere? where are the UFO's? Why not do something original?"
Sonic Mania: I'll take all of them
Sega probably can't count to 3 much like Valve.
+Francisco Reyes cough cough episode 3 and k cough cough
+Francisco Reyes cough cough just a joke :) cough
Sorry I don't get the joke
+Carl Bloke sonic 4 episode 3 (& knuckles)
Ok so what do you call Sonic 3 and Knuckles?
"The entire game will be released sometime in 2016"
Looks at calendar.
It's 2015 and still no episode 3.
Seems Johnny shouldn't go into fortune telling.
***** Actually, there were planes for an episode 3, but it was cancelled.
Clyde Hardin Meeeeeh...
Deucecat5201 I had no idea 2015 was 2016.
fang3207 I meant that it's almost 2016 so it doesn't look good.
Bump
I feel like this game's biggest problem is the fact that it plays by itself most of the time. I mean, speed-boosters, the abundance of springs, endless bubble chains, etc.
Lol it's almost 2016 now. Old joke is old and kind of funny listening to it now.
ThatEntityPerson I’m so glad Mania came out and shat on Sonic 4
Enjoying that new shantae game?
@@nobodyinparticular9640 Lol uh. I mean I got Limited Run's Collectors Edition when that was first announced so I'm not gonna be playing it until that comes out, which will be at least a couple months
The opening in the ending theme for Sonic CD HD is missing the lyrics because the creator of those two songs died and their were copyright issues
"I really hope your retro engine is used to make future 2d sonic games"..... Foreshadowing
I assume they use the Bad Future of Star Dust Speedway because it looks more...badass, I guess? /theory
Jessey Lawson It's a lot better than Boom
***** Sonic Boom is everything I hate about Sonic
***** No, actually. I hate the writing, I hate the voice acting, I hate the general look of the game, I hate the emphasis on Werehog like combat.
I enjoyed it, um... fairly. I just think they could've made it a little better.
***** Everything in a game matters equally.
Sylvania Castle = Castlevania?
Sonic 4 episode 2 is so good yet underrated
Greetings from 2016! It's still not here, and probably won't be!
Sonic 4 ep 3 is cancelled
+Shadowfan104 NOOOOO! It's like Half Life 3. And TF3.
*****
Yeah. I know.
+LeoYoshi54321 Sonic Adventure 3 too. ;)
MrSadman667
Sonic 2006 WAS Sonic Adventure 3.
I just offended so many people. But I've now just given Sonic haters MORE reasons to sh*t on 3D Sonic games at the same time.
+Shadowfan104 How surprising... Like it's not surprising at all
7:08 In it's defense , Episode 1 used Sonic 1's Special Stage format , so I think they were going for the same thing here.
MARIO
just noticed the drawing of johnny has him holding a genesis controller. ive been subscribed for a year and ive never noticed that.
GreenNinjaTea - Y’know, I never noticed it either! That’s really cool!
Does anyone else wish for a Sonic 4 reboot/remake?
I want them to port all three as an actual cartridge game for 3DS, but change the physics so that it works better and so that the games feel more streamlined and maybe add Tails to ep. 1. (Again, for streamlining. They don't even have to give you the option to select a separate episode, just put all 10 levels in 1. And maybe expand Metal Sonic's mode, giving him unique physics, allowing him to access all 10 levels, and make it harder than the original levels to offer challenge to those like Johnny, who obvs was left a bit unsatisfied with the difficulty here)
Nope
@@PKMN5Ds three?
Hey you're not alone I think about those types of plot holes too 😆
So basically is that the game is just an 3D rehash of other zones. Some combined but the same thing. Right?
Not really.
Ep.1: Yes. Ep.2: No.
0:56 Coming back in 2019, I am dying at this XD
This game was kinda fun for me actually. With all the negative things I've heard about it, I thought it wouldn't be that fun (a similar scenario took place with Unleashed). But if you look past the originality, it actually is actually almost as good as the classics. In fact imo, there are a few things things this does _better_ than the classic games, like the co-op as Johnny mentioned.
I do wish it was longer, and maybe give a little extra for 100%ing it.
And yes, that Metal Sonic statue is awesome.
Yeah, if it were longer, wasn't episodic, and was more creative, it'd definetly be my favorite. Well.....still slightly below Sonic 3.
When all the chaos emeralds are brought together they scatter into random locations
Gabriel Rumfelt and then Shenron grants you a wish
Gabriel Rumfelt
No there are more than 7 emeralds
Linguini HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
12:36
The reason the lyrics were taken out because the songs were created by the band dreams come true and they holded the rights to the lyrics and all Sega could get the rights to was the beat
I love episode 2 so much. I wish they gave this another try with an episode 3.
1:57 Yes, he missed one. and in Sonic Mania he finally gets the last one retconning Sonic 4/Generations/Picross
He's going to rereview this game!
the lyrics are missing from the sonic cd port because the person that did them sadly passed away. so it was decided to keep them out as a form of respect.
from what i could dig out:
"Christian Whitehead aka “The Taxman” followed the discovery up with the below message at the Sonic Retro forums suspecting legal rights issues: My guess is that since Casey Rankin is no longer alive, there might be problems negotiating the use of the lyrics outside of Japan."
To be honest this is basically a watered down version of sonic advance 3
8:03 Johnny: The Death Egg MK. 2 Darth Vader: What?
In Episode 2's credit, I think it has the best controlling version of the half pipe special stage.
+Scorpionspear77 You could say that again XD
SEGA ate a whole bunch of Member Berries when making Sonic 4
I picked up sonic cd on PC AND I LOVE IT! This video was helpful information thank you so much!
Sonic 4 as a whole was very disappointing. The level design in my opinion wasn't enjoyable, because it feels like every level plays itself, and THE CONSTANT BUBBLES CHAINS! They could've done so much more with the story, ending on a very small and empty note, not to mention that they did nothing with the Ancient purple energy they added. Episode Metal is the most rehash I've ever seen in any video game. Oi, looking back, Shattered Crystal is more exciting than this.
+Douglas The Hedgehog Agreed, and both Sonic 4 episodes are already aging poorly for their terrible level designs; a lot of boring automation and very annoying split-second reaction times that Dimps keeps shoving into their games since the Sonic Advance games just made it not fun. Dimps just doesn't learn from their mistakes to stop forcing us to memorise the levels.
***** Let's hope that you will get to own the Sonic trademark by then :P
fuck off
+Elijah Toombs Why should I? The Constitution (assuming you live in the US) clearly states my right to say what I want whenever I want to say it. And besides, it's not like this is some Nazi propaganda or anything, it's just me stating my opinion on Sonic 4 as a whole in a very calm and mature way. If you have a problem with this, then I would suggest you to fuck off, and bother someone else with your rude behavior.
Yeah I agree. The Sonic 4 games don't hold up well at all.
Sonic 4: Episode 3 is still not out, and it's almost 2017.
Anthunny sonic 4 episode III has been officially canceled for a long time now
Anthunny It's 2018 and there is none
13:01 you predicted Sonic Mania 5 years before the game released
Before the " Sonic 4 Defense Squad " existed.
13:01 unintentional foreshadowing?
13:10 'Your expertise could benefit future 2D Sonic games' *SONIC MANIA COMING 2017!*
Have you guys ever thought that Episode 3 will never come out because of Sonic Boom?
Rad Dudesman K.
+Dennis Claros :(
It was cancelled because Episode 2 sold *very* poorly due entirely to Episode 1's ridiculously mixed fan reception.
+Dennis Claros A great way for Sega to redeem themselves would be to make episode 3 and make it awesome.
+Kyle Langdon Agreed. With the sonic boom series destroying the franchise. Sonic 4 epsiode 3 could save it.
If Sega wants to release a proper successor to the genesis titles, than the first thing they should do is call it anything other than Sonic 4 or 5 or whatever. No direct sequels, make somethign in the spirit of those classics, with similar gameplay and level design. Something similar should be done for the Adventure series if it ever gets brought back.
+VocalCalibration The Sonic Advance series?
***** Um... yeah... actually pretty much that.
Well we got Sonic Mania.
I think this game has the best special stages ever! And I love them!
wikipedia There is an unused "To be Continued" scene found in the coding of the game. Originaly, it was to play after the player defeated the Egg Heart of Death Egg Mk.II with all seven Chaos Emeralds. This proves that Sega has considered an Episode III.
But the fact that they removed means it was cancelled...
Oh well, not a major loss.
*****
Thankfully though, the SatAM cartoon was lucky enough to have the cliffhanger resolved in the comics. Sonic Underground however, not so much.
***** ...PPEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNDDEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRSSSSSS
Really looking forward to be playing it on ios...
PS: Sega....
FIX FUCKING EPISODE 2 FOR iOS!!! iOS 8 IS ALMOST HERE!!!!!!!!! JUST HURRY UP WHATS YOUR EXCUSE I PAYED MONEY! THIS IS ILLEGAL I SUE U FIJEEHHRHOFUIEIHOIEF
Funny how they did use the retro engine for Sonic 4! I mean...Sonic Mania
Instead of episode 3, it took one year past 2016 to deliver a true 2d sonic game. This video is kinda hilarious in hindsight
Funny how Mr. Whitehead would continue to use this new engine used for remaking Sonic CD to recreate Sonic 1 and 2, even going so far as to complete the Hidden Palace Zone as a secret level in Mystic Cave Zone in Sonic 2. Seriously, pick up the Mobile version of Sonic 2, the Special Stages are even fully 3D now!
Over halfway through 2019... Still waiting for Episode III
Mah Boi not happening
It was canceled years ago
1:54 Easy. It's a separate timeline. The main series console games exist in the bad future, and the handheld games exist in the good future. Both are vastly similar, but have different events in both timelines, even when overlap occurs
I had that Sonic figure at the end myself at one point. I can attest to the fact that the head was heavy as shit, and as a result it fell off. Decapitated Sonic is not a pretty sight.
So, the bad Sonic CD ending is canon?!?
We are in 2024. Still no episode III
There ISN'T an Episode 3! It got cancelled.
Man, talking about how Sonic 4 sucks then talking about how good Christian Whitehead's Sonic CD is is like some crazy future sight shit
13:00 oh Johnny... You already predicted the future. You don't need time stones
*10:06* Hint, there's not.
Sadly there will never be a Ep 3 Sega said so I'm dead serious.
***** Yeah I agree.. that's why in my mind, Sonic 4 doesn't exist lol. At least the story doesn't exist. I play the game if I'm ever bored or want to do a sonic co-op with someone, but that's it..I just see it as a NSMB type of game, and not a worthy sequel to S3&K
***** Yeah, which makes NO sense to me -_- .. Sonic CD really doesn't even belong in the classic Hedgehog canon. It's just Sonic 1,2, and 3&K. It's assumed that CD happened in between 1 and 2 though. But then Dr. Robotnik downgrading from Metal Sonic to Silver Sonic (Sonic 2) and Mecha Sonic (Sonic 3&K) is weird
***** yeah it had to be before 1. Because Sonic 2 goes straight to Sonic 3 if you connect them. After the Death Egg is partially destroyed in Sonic 2 is crash lands in Sonic 3, and that's where Sonic/Tails come in with the plane, and that's why he's still Super Sonic
***** Dead fucking serious what a shit liad of fuck what were they thinking.
There's only Mecha Sonic and Metal Sonic..... Silver Sonic is a nickname for Mecha Sonic, unless you're talking about Silver the Hedgehog from Sonic 06.
Thank you John for mentioning the best port of Sonic CD! I bought it at the day it came out on Xbox Live Brazil and it was totally worth it! I hope Christian Whitehead and his team may have the opportunity to remaster Sonic 3 & Knuckles or even do new Sonic games 16 bit style!
The only Sonic the Hedgehog 4 I'll acknowledge its Sonic Mania.
Alpha Jay 3.0 Sonic Mania is mainly a reboot than Sonic the Hedgehog 4.
I hated the halfpipe in Sonic 2 for 1 reason and one reason only. WHEN YOU HAVE TAILS WITH YOU AND HE STEALS THE RINGS FROM YOU< HE WILL GET HIT AND MAKE YOU LOSE! This was the most annoying thing to have ever happened to me in a Sonic Genesis title, and for that reason I hate Sonic 2. Seeing the mechanic return makes my blood boil.
***** Doesnt help when you're at the end of the game
That is a exageration
Prince Kalian Maybe. But it had happened more than once, so I don't believe so.
Over dramatic is a better word.
This comment reminded me of this
www.notenoughrings.com/sonic2/specialstage.html
Shard Gaming Thats exactly how it is!
"On the ground, Sonic and Tails 69 their way through all sorts of obstacles at a high speed."
Rip Episode 3 lmao
I find Sonic 4's soundtrack in general to be a bit… off? They try to make it sound "Genesis" but add too much of the "twang" that the classic Sonic games lacked, especially in Episode II. They should've tried to limit the music to what an actual Genesis can handle, and them throw the same style of remixing they used for the Classic stages in the HD version of _Sonic Generations_ into it.
And also, I definitely would rather see a _Sonic the Hedgehog 5_ rather than a _Sonic 4: Episode III_. Better yet, why not a 2-D series that isn't a direct continuation of where Sonic 4 or the classic games left off? _Sonic Advance_ has a following, you know!
NO SONIC 5. Please no. No game can live up to the original three, and adding a FIFTH to that name will just soil the already soiled legacy.
And also, I definitely would rather see a _Sonic the Hedgehog 5_ rather than a _Sonic 4: Episode III_. *Better yet, why not a 2-D series that isn't a direct continuation of where Sonic 4 or the classic games left off?* _Sonic Advance_ has a following, you know!
Years later and Sonic Mania is a thing. Still think no game can live up to the original three?
This was my first official 3D Sonic Game as my Mother installed this game on her Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 for my Brother. Only problem is, it was a Demo Version because she was very cheap.
This isn't a 3D game
@@zachatck64 Maybe Not. Though this was the first with 3D Graphics then
0:58
This hasn't aged well, lmfao.
Btw, if you happen to have a Genesis Retropad, it works with Sonic CD. A is confirm, B is back, Start is well, start, and A, B, X and Y also jump. Unfortunately, Z and C don't do shit, but you can't have everything, can you? Besides, you're not missing anything.
*edit* Sonic CD on the PC I mean.
What about the other games?
PLEASE RESPOND ASAP!
JacobDSProductions The other games? What other games?
I experimented with the controller in Sonic Generations, just BARELY managed to get every important button binded down to a button on the controller, it's not the best idea tho xD
EvilHeavy Okay, let me rephrase. Does it work with the Sonic 4 games?
JacobDSProductions Unfortunately, thanks to those game's selective controller... well selection (either 360 controller or keyboard), no.
EvilHeavy Bummer...Wait. I have a Logitech Gamepad F310 I guess that'll work.
Damn that was a long gap never noticed that
Christian Whitehead please remake Sonic 4 as a whole (not episodes) and also add Sonic 4 Episode 3 storyline and gameplay. 😃 💵
Sonic fans: go back to the older style!
Sega: *makes sonic 4 and sonic mania, which go back to the older style.*
Sonic fans: no, too unoriginal, its a rehash of the older style!
.... Guys, this is why Sonic Boom exists. Sega doesn't know what you want because YOU don't know what you want.
Chase Plays Some Games You can meet a good balance between the two. That's what they're asking for.
Spenser Ianniello
If Sega made that, the fans would still complain.
Chase Plays Some Games Really? Cause Generations did it and practically every Sonic Fan I know at least appreciates that game.
do they appreciate it for the balance?
no, they only like it cuz classic sonic is in it and it tugs at their nostalgia.
Chase Plays Some Games But my point is is that the game incorporated both Sonic counterparts with level design that was new but also was true to Sonic's roots, even in the Modern era. That's one of the main reasons people loved it, aside from just nostalgia.
It's early 2017, and there still isn't a Sonic 4 Episode III
its 2016 wheres episode 3?
+shadefoxthepenguin Cancelled.
what about Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (2016) just like Sonic 06!?!😉
Its called Sonic mania....ok no.
I muted the sound on the tv because of special stage 7
omg the special stage music, dont mention it, i get a headache just thinking about it...
but the feeling when you got it!
Dude I love your content, if you don’t want a lot of comedic skits and just want a good review video, then I’m gonna watch one of your videos
13:00 your wish was granted
Possible hot take: I actually think Sonic 4 Episode 2 is.... Kinda underrated and it's actually pretty good!
Damn, I love that main menu in Sonic CD's re-release. They really went the extra-mile.
1 MILLIONTH VIEW
Edit it had 999k and I clicked and it had 1M
4:04 and 13:00
Cut to August 2017...
Sonic Mania is out now, and it's amazing!
We won't see a Sonic 4: Episode III ever, which is probably for the best.
Is it me or does episodes 1 & 2 feel like remakes of the original first 2 sonic games
shino aburae That wasn't a very special thing to say.
That's the problem: they didn't create this as a sequel, this was nothing more than just a simple nostalgia ride. How Johnny said, it was severely lacking in any innovation, just rehashing old shit. And with episodes they just take the three level structure and recreate Sonic 1, 2 and 3 with just few new gimmicks. This is not a sequel. It's just a shitty nostalgic remake. And I can't stand those. To a degree I'm glad Episode 3 was canceled.
I wish Sonic 4 Episode 3 was more innovative than the previous titles.
KinnikumanUpLoader01
Yeah, you and me both
Ken Catus If several people make a petition to bring Sonic 4 Episode 3, maybe Sonic Team will do it. I just hope they listen to the fans' requests.
KinnikumanUpLoader01
I haven't seen an internet petition working on such instances.
Ken Catus That's why one needs to be created.
Ep2 has an ending in it’s files that says to be continued
I loved this game... To bad episode 3 is cancelled