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Some tips to get the most out of Meguiar's M105 Mirror-Glaze Ultra Cut Compound!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2024
- Megs M 105 Ultra Cut Compoundis an ultra fast cutting compound for rapid paint correction with minimal compounding swirls.Super micro abrasives cuts while leaving a finish that requires very little finishing work.
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Apex Detail The Meguiars SMAT system works for me,
M100 & microfiber, M105 & wool and M205 foam.
Thats all I can hope for. I want you all to be successful and prosperous!👍🏻
I've actually had very little success with Megs products. Whether it be 105/205 or even Ultimate Compound/Ultimate Polish.
The compounds work, and paired with MF pads they do cut pretty well, but they do tend to scour the paint much more than competing products. I cannot for the life of me get M205 or Ultimate Polish to finish down, no matter what I try. Different pads, # of passes, different pressures, diluting them both.. They just haze the paint no matter what.
Compared to the Griots BOSS system, I can't believe anyone still uses 105/205. The BOSS creams are undoubtedly more expensive, but man.. Fast Correcting Cream does SUCH a great job, and on my paint (that M205 scours) I can use Fast Correcting Cream with a light cutting pad and finish down LSP ready. It's seriously great stuff. Seems to have an infinite work time, produces no dusting, and smells great.
Comparing M205 to Perfecting Cream isn't even fair in my eyes. Perfecting Cream just blows it away.
I know this is supposed to be about Megs, and I got kind of side tracked, but I guess it seems relevant because when I was searching for compounds/polishes that I enjoyed using, I just kind of assumed the BOSS creams would be like "repackaged" M105/M205. I know that some guys have great success using Megs stuff, and I'm envious because compared to stuff like the BOSS creams it's super inexpensive.. But I'll be damned if the BOSS stuff isn't worth every dollar more.
There's just too many great products available from Griots, 3D, Sonax, etc, to be wasting my time trying to make these dated Megs products work!
I like the retail abrasives - the Ultimate line. Easy to work with, fairly predictable performance, and they work well.
I'll take megs tips all day. Thanks Brian!
PS. Ultimate Compound is handy too.
I am an amateur DIY detailer who works only on my own vehicles. I have been an M105 and M205 user for more than a decade due to one fact: these products get the job done, virtually ANY job. However, your list of cons about M105 are spot on, and your comments have convinced me to try somerthing else. I look forward to digging through your archive of videos to help me figure out which I should go with. Thanks!!!
Nice to see a Guy that knows what hes doing. I'm a old School GM trained Detailer from back in the late 70s and 80s. Still enjoy doing my own vehicles as I'm sure you do. Nice job. I'm even learning some new tricks with these newer products on the market these days . I really enjoy your channel. Thanks for sharing
Agree 100% M105 for me is hard to remove. I’ve learned a lot from watching your work!! If you ever decide to start doing detail classes, I would love to attend.. Thanks again for all the time you put in to the videos.. Keep up the excellent work!!!
I stopped doing 3day seminars a few years ago as I am starting to trim the fat on my schedule and enjoy life a bit more.😁
I just threw away my Meg 205 Ultra Finishing because of the dusting also it was hard to remove. Might of been my inexperience with it. After watching these videos I see there are better easier products for me to use. I am not a professional I just maintain my 2 vehicles. Thanks Brian for all these great videos I have learned a lot.
I dont use them... they are so accessible... I can see how so many do however.
I just restored the hood of my wife's 08 bmw, that thing was fucked up, scratches and deep hazing, I didnt think there was even clear coat on it. I used a porter cable sander with CB polishing pad. I damp the pad with distilled water and put 3 grape size drops of m105 and then 3 pea size drops of ultimate polish 2x2 sections, I did very long passes and spray some distilled water on the surface when it looked like it was drying up. Cleaned the pad with water in between passes. Then wipe it off with distilled water. The results were amazing to be honest I thought that hood was done.
1st time I used m105 I was very frustrated with the dusting, but putting extra amount and lubrication it gives very good results
The Save By The Bell reference was hilarious! Keep the great content coming!
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The thing about the 105 is that it will be more easily available for most everyone since it is a retail product and not a specialty one like other better products which will require some hunting down to get ones hands on,Great video by the way! By the way really liked your advice on washing foam pads with out recommending any ones specialty products to clean them,we all know regular dish washing soap can do it but other folks will still try to push somebody's product to make a dime.
Thank you for sharing your honest opinion, knowledge. I'm a n00b just beginning to learn the "art". I picked up the 105 & 205 duo and really appreciate tips like these.
Great advice to keep dusting down. I just dont understand why anyone would want to keep struggling using a product that dust way to much; compared to it's new design like correction compound d300 is so easy to use. With no dusting.
I do not think I have ever had to hit a spot on a car more than twice with a DA to take out what can be. Simply amazing stuff. Use the entire Ultimate line up, more often than not. I find I rarely need anything that cuts more.
Thank you. You have mastered so many techniques and tricks within detailing. Thanks for sharing.
I have mastered nothing... but picked up a few tricks along the way while practicing.😁👍🏻
I suppose we'll all get a ride in one of those 😱one day. Was trying to work out what car it was. Great job and the sun never lies, perfect.
Its a creepy ride to work on indeed!😁
Love the video you break it down and make it a lot more understandable than other channels out there.
You done it right taping off the plastic trim and everything you know what you doing I've been detailing for 30 years
Hi Brian! Nice, brother! I do the same here, but I use a pure carnaúba spray to get more lubrication and working time when I use those dusty compounds.
Thanks a lot and God bless your work!
Thanks Brian for these interesting and informative videos on detailing products and especially your tips on technique. I have a new 370Z all black and I'm trying to learn enough of the fundamentals to be able to keep the finish on this car looking good. I find your presentations very helpful, as you seem to have very good public speaking skills. I used to teach Physics in college and I can say that you would be an excellent lecturer.
Brian I'm with you on the Megs being a lil long in the tooth technology wise. I DETEST that the 105 dusts up so much, but it cuts fairly well. Not as good as others mind you..but alright. The 205 is a bit better in that it doesn't dust nearly as much and finishes well. These days I tend to lean more towards Scholl Concepts, Menzerna and Sonax. Thanks again for another informative video!
I completely agree👍🏻
Thank you so much for your time and dedication to help us weekend warriors. I watch several polishing videos and your the guy I'm using to add paint correction to my list. With that I did my first 2 step on my own 2014midnight black Dodge 2500 pickup and I'm just freaking out with how nice it looks two days later. Anyway I expected a job on a Denali black again for this Saturday and Sunday, 2 step wish me luck please. And once again we are all very grateful for your time sir.
wow really haven't seen this side if u...almost ready 4 stand up.....a lot of meg fans will b but hurt but u give a true,real world test in shop.ur not 1 of these desk top detailers u r true master of ur craft.b well work safe buddy
Nothing against the brand or product... its just behind the times a bit.
WOW Brian ! Piano Finish, nice job...……… Thanks.
Wesley Sugalski 👍🏻😁
I agree, as a starter the meg 105/205 are perfect for the beginner but as you venture on and your skill set improve you come to find out there are alot of better products, I love the griots BOSS line, no dusting longer work time and very easy to wipe off, but thats just my opinion, great video once again
Had to buy some of that 3 weeks ago because I wasn’t able to find any of my normal that I use . Back in the day it was the bees knees. Got the job done but I made sure to buy plenty of my normal compound . Great video ! I need to come up sometime and we can do a detailing hacks and spoof vid! Lol
Sounds good to me👍🏻
Thanks for the video and the demonstration of using M105/205 even though there are better compounds formulas out there however the equation of getting a good shine can still be achieved with this variable. Im just starting off and am hesitant with using compounds, so after hours of TH-cam University classes and budget, I purchased these products first. Other detailers on TH-cam, like AMMO and Chromatic, they suggested the same as you did, keep it simple and learn how to use your products. Just wanted to take a moment to say thank you for the video and the tips/tricks on how to use products that most people have to finish before buying the newer products.
Love the Apex channel Brian..best of the best
CAPTJ696 😁👍🏻 Thanks for the kind words!!!'
Thanks for the "trick" of quick detailer
Carlos Rivera 😁👍🏻
Just purchased this product, will follow your tips. Thanks will update on my results.
I enjoy the way you approach the issues, this video was due and thanks for it. My only guess or reason, they won't change it or introduce a new compound is because it's the numbers, the sales. Remember when Coke soda changed the formula?, I've heard of people stocking a 2 car garage full of coke, with the fear they will never make it again. Maybe it's a not a fair comparison, and just a similar corporate fear of how the loyal fans will react. It works with minor issues. I still have quite a bit of ultimate comp and pol, it works, maybe it takes way longer to get results and I can use them for other applications. Your videos and comparison rankings helped me decide what my next purchase as far as paint correction will be. 👍🏻👍🏻
Great post.... totally agree!😁👍🏻
I have been using m105, i dont like the dust but i love the cutting power with the microfiber pads! I will try the sonax cutmax and see how i like it 👍
Thanks for the tips.. I may finish my 105 now!
Mikey P 😁👍🏻
Good job bud. I prefer M100 over 105
Cleans up better and m205 is very versatile as well.
To me it's just the best compoung, tho I haven't used than many other compounds. It does wonders when combined with the Ardex polish....
Thanks for the video
Hey... if it gives you the results you seek... stick with it! Cheers!😁
Good review Apex. I’m not a megs fan of their compound & polish, but I’m not saying it’s bad. Everyone has what they prefer & what’s works for them. It if works for you, hey that’s great! As long as at the end of the day you are getting great results & you are happy with the results that you got. I’ve been using Menzerna & Sonax for years. And also some Jescar that I’ve been testing out. I do like the Jescar polish. But again every paint is different.
Excellent post... completely agree👍🏻
Big fan here Brian love the channel I learn a lot from watching you
I know Kevin Brown and Larry Kosilla love the stuff and use all the time. My experience with it is way too much dust. Liked GG Boss Correcting Creme much more and smelled better too
Absolutly agree - lots of dusting, whiping could be better, cutting could be better too! Can't work with it without meg's m34. Overall not a bad compound, been using it since '07. Switchin to sonax. Pleasure watching some one who knows what he's doing!
There was a time when I used M105 fairly often; didn't know of another product that cut as quickly with as (relatively) fine finish. Well, times have changed and M105 hasn't. The dust. Oh, man. I still use M205 on occasion and once in a while add a bead of M105 to the pad for a bit more cut, but it's rare. Today there's no shortage of better and easier to work with abrasives.
Completely agree👍🏻
What do you like to use?
Great work on that vehicle. 👍🏼😎
GWORKS ELITE AUTO FINISH thanks!👍🏻
Apex Detail
No problem, you have a great channel keep up the good work.
Always so excellent with tips as usual that never disappoint. A fan of France. Thank you for everything you do to share your knowledge and expertise.. personally I use the maxshine 21, a fantastic tool for novices and I'm training with a rotary polisher dewalt on body parts at a friend coachbuilder, it's not the same, it's better to train before using it ....
Those are great to start with... finding a lightweight rotary is key.😁
Your videos are inspiring ☺👍👏👏👏
Thanks for the video, Brian. I'm like you, not a fan of the dusting from M105 but I'm going to continue to use it until I'm out as I bought a 32 oz bottle.
Car looked awesome
Hey Brian, between you and Scott Bly of Dallas paint correction, my knowledge and success have nearly tripled. I am a weekend warrior and have been busier than I would care to be from word of mouth. I'm trying to keep it simple for packages, how much do you charge for 2 steps with a sealant? I've done a couple such jobs and it takes me awhile. I really have no overhead except product. How long should it take roughly including a full interior detail and it what's a good hourly rate for top notch detailers in my situation?
Thats all we could wish for... you guys all being successful and busy!
Sealant with two step starts at $400
the reason you are not getting good results from the product is because you are using too little of it. If you look at the Meguire's tutorial videos they put ten times more product than you do when using them. That's why you have to spray stuff in the middle of the process to make up for the fact the little stuff you put in its gone, now you are just "diluting" it and then blame the product for ' not keeping up'. They are the makers, they are the chemists, they are the ones designed the product, they are the ones who know how to use it. I would recommend you follow their instructions and then see how the produce works for you.
Brian you have to check out the new smat compound and polish from Meguairs M-110 and M-210. The m-110 is all that 105 should have been years ago. No dusting and longer cycle time.
Mix some m205 on the pad along with the m105. The polishing oils in m205 will give alot longer cycle time and reduce dusting.
The M105/M205 combo has always worked for me but the dusting can make you miserable. I detail in the elements so it's been a while since I've reached for my Mequiar's as I'm usually doing one steps with HD Speed, D166, or Sonax Perfect Finish. It's tried and true for me but old tech compared to what's out on the market today. I'm thankful to not have any horror stories about trashing paint because I've never been able to afford failing on a customer vehicle. I have to admit I am a Mequiar's fanboy just because when I knew nothing about detailing I still knew Meguiar's products, but I also get what you are saying... wipe off on a hot panel can be a bear to remove.
D CarrStar totally agree 👍🏻😁
I have two big bottles of 105 and 205. They have been in sitting in the same spot and have collected as much dust as they produce when they are used. Hopefully they will stay there as long as I can afford sonax
Clint mcfarland 😂😂😂completely agree!
I’ll take it off of your hands. It works great for me here in Minneapolis indoors and outside.
Never said it didn't work but it dusts like crazy
It sounds like 3m rubbing compound. Reliable but a bit messy to use
I used m105 once...never again...it can get the job done but it's nowhere near Griot's Boss cream or Jescar correcting compound...Jescar is the best compound in my opinion and Sonax Perfect Finish polish..they are the best combination I think.
Hey Brian, really like your Tips and Insights. I just got a Gallon of Megs D300 .. I heard it cuts like the M105, but has a lot less dusting, works better with Microfiber Pads. I'm eager to try it out. Maybe a theme for a future comparison video for your channel?
The D300 has much less dusting...I will put something together.👍🏻
D300 is a great product and absolutely less dusting, but it is also not on the same level of compounding as M105, you will do more work and end up with less of a result. Again, D300 is great, but when you are talking big time results, you need a big time product like 105.
Brian, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. I don't detail cars but I do use the same products, tools and processes to polish epoxy and I have really learned a LOT from your videos. I am using a mirka da sander to get to the 3000 grit stage then a dewalt rotary for the cutting and polishing. Currently using megs 105 for compounding but as you say about the residue control driving you nuts I am there so going to try sonax cutmax and perfect finish on my next test. One thing I am sure you would appreciate is the the 1/8 INCH clear coat I get to work with in my projects and I don't worry about burning through believe me. Any other products (liquids and pads) that come to mind that are more tuned towards polishing a plastic like material would be greatly appreciated! Thanks Again and keep up the excellent work.
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Hi Brian, so it's 2022 now and I feel like this 105/205 combo has been around since 07-08? So in your opinion what is a step above this combo that's in the same price range that doesn't dust and cuts better? Compound and polish. Thanks man I enjoy your videos.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge
Very informative as usual; thank you for the info;PJP
Nice job
im so glad I found your channel
So what’s your take? Is it better to start with a rotary and wool pad for the whole car and then follow with the DA and foam pad?
Definitely dead on about the 205 experience, this product produced so much dust and it’s hard to get it off. Using it on a black car is going to be a nightmare since it produce so much haze and it’s not coming off easy. I did one section and I’m going to return this product, it’s not for me.
Thanks for sharing this tips!
Great video brother. I've heard to control the dusting utilize a little more product and have slightly faster passes so the product doesn't heat up and cause dusting, caking, and haze. I've never tried it but a few forums mention that by doing that 105 works fine, what's your thoughts on that? My guess is that is with utilizing a foam pad. However I definitely agree with you on better compounds out there but I'm sure there's a lot of guys out there like myself who has a full bottle and would love to master the product so we don't wast it😂thanks in advance brother and keep the videos coming!
You said it... i would go through that just to use the rest and get the most out of it... then never buy it again😁
@@apexdetail85 What do you recommend?
Quick detail, you mention while doing the rear panel that you want to let the SMAT particles break down. M105 is supposed to be using non-diminishing abrasives, with the point being that the abrasive particles DON’T break down as you’re compounding. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, I’m just getting started on my DIY detailing experience (getting my cars prepped for Avalon King’s Armor IX - Ceramic Coating).
I was planning to go with the M105 & M205 combo to prep the paint on my 2020 Honda Civic Si Coupe (in pearl white), and our 2017 Mazda CX-9 Grand Touring (in gunmental grey). But I’m not married to the combo, if you have a better recommendation PLEASE let me know. I’ll primarily be using a 20 mm long throw DA polisher, I might do the small sections like doors sills, and front bumper ledges either by hand, or with a 3” rotary drill attachment pad. Please let me know if you know of a better combo for the paint prep for ceramic coatings.
Remember they always used to do demos on almost brand new paints so it's not something to be impressed with!. Btw the m105 is so good i used it a lot.
Last year on my black ridgeline 2012 i use m105 and m205. This year i tried sonax cutmax and griot garage perfect cream and i got a better result with less residu.
I love those two...you are in good hands there.👍
I used Sonax because i saw your compound battle.....Very friendlyuse compare to M105
George
This video is an A+, its very educative because You can the see the difference between a regular DA and a long throw DA loke 21mm how easily removed all those marks, scratches, sure combining the correct pad. I need to ask you a question that is not related to this video. After using Meguiar's 3 in 1 wax, can I top that with a sealant or like can coat of Gyeon? Thanks in advanced for your help, Brian
I currently have the m105 and 205 combo and the dusting is terrible. I use Griot's spray detail to try to keep it at a minimum. I currently just got into paint correction. What other two products would you suggest I trade these out for?
I tried for the first time today. I painted my hood, then flattened the paint with 2000. Then I went to the meguires. With a rotary/ foam pad. I tried to be a neat as possible, but I slung compound all over everything, and it stuck. Especially on trim/plastic. The “dust” was extremely hard to remove. It looks so easy watching a pro. I made a mess.
Detailed spray? Or a product that doesn’t “dust “ or fly all over the place?
Awesome video! Thank you !
I am just a weekend warrior but I tried it. Wanted to try the D300. The dusting and short time is a killer for the M105.
Dusting from the 105 is a pain totally agree. You had mentioned other products that would've worked quicker. Menzerna ?
I love you videos!!
You do a GREAT JOB man!
Great products, but like you said; too much dusting. Using a DA I make only two slow passes with moderate pressure and that’s it. It cuts really fast for me like this. I keep the temperature down that way which of course is our enemy. Hopefully they put some kind of oily lube of some sort to control the dusting in the near future.
Thanks for the tips !
Honestly I bought it to try it out , not a big fan , I’ll stick to carpro
I was going to throw it out the door but decided to keep it for water spots on glass 👍🏽
There you go.. you can make your 💰 back that way👍🏻
I use 105/205 daily.. if worked correctly they can produce outstanding finishes.... but the dusting is f’n ridiculous! 105 = less passes, shorter working times with a WELL primed pad, keep pad clean or change out every panel to help control dusting...
205 finishes perfect and wipes off like butter to me..
Completely agree.👍
Just gone a got both 105-205 what is your best way to use both of these for your best results? Seen others use this but want to avoid mistakes before they exsist. How would you keep you pad primed with a QD? Cheers Connor 👍
I always forget how messy it can be to use M105, I generally avoid using it be sometimes its needed
So just to round up, you went 1. M105 2. M205 3. Angelwax PP 4. Protection
Correct good sir!
What products would you recommend over megs 105 & 205? I’ve only ever used these products but would like to try something different.
For my jobs I use 3m compound followed by Wolfgang finishing glaze. Incredible results
great video again buddy.cant really teach lifes real experience..
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Nice I need to do that to my black Jeep
Does Sonax contain fillers or do you actually see what actually has been corrected? If starting out and this is the product line to learn which ones to practice with ? Not sure which pads Lake country has would be the better choice. Maybe another video ?? 😬
This is perfectly fine to start with. Team them up with the microfiber cutting and polishing pads from LC.
I tried this last night on a test panel last night great stuff but i think i used too much compound. I will try again after this
I am cut and buffing a 2011 C6 Corvette that has fresh paint on rear quarters and hood. I started with 1200 and worked my way up to 2500 wet sand. I purchased the Maguiars 105 to finish up my cut and polish. First time doing this. What product do you recommend (I can take back the 105). I would like to end my project with a ceramic coat, so after I finish 12:51 the cut and buff do I add a polish or just a ceramic coat?
I am with you completely. Needs more lubrication.
Loops And Threads 😁👍🏻
Loops And Threads
I hate to say this but , That's What She Said ☺️
So I have 2-3 month etched in hard water spots and light scratches on my black 2016 Civic. Should I get the M105 or will the D300 compound be enough to get rid of these defects on my car?
D300 is awesome. I hate 105.
D300 should do it.👍🏻
Brian,
First of all thanks for the honest videos I appreciate them and the info they provide.
My question is if you were to recommend a compound and finishing polish or maybe a one step product for a first time da polisher owner (me). What products would you recommend? I have an old police car to practice on so I'm not to worried about harming the paint but with so many products to choose it's a bit overwhelming. I considered the meguiers from your most recent video but with the dusting and the other quirks wasn't sure if that's the easiest (most fool proof) I should try. Really just looking to get my feet wet. Thanks
Thats easy... Sonax Cut Max and Sonax Perfect finish. A vid on perfect finish is coming up.
I don’t understand people who are so upset with M105 dusting, when are you doing a major compound like 105 does and not washing after??? If you want to be lazy and get lazy results then go retail and use Megs Ultimate Compound and call it a day.
Thanks man, I'm a noob and appreciate your videos! I'm a subscriber!👍🏿 I'll let you know about my experience with MEG 105 & 205!
Howd it go? I cant decide between m105 and d300 any recommendations? thanks
@@DG-888 I just went through this and d300 definitely, though if you want to stay with megs be sure to check out m100 and m101 as well. I wound up buying a small bottle of 105 only because I didn't shop for long enough (AKA: watching 30 more videos ;), but next time I'll get a non-105, either the megs above or sonax/menzerna-jescar.
Hi, Great videos! I'm picking up a 2012 White Nissan Leaf this week and want to use your techniques for making the paint look as good as possible. I have a 700 rpm Torq X random orbital and will use Meguiars 100 Polish followed by 200. Can you recommend the right pads to use in each step, and also, I'm considering a ceramic wax topcoat after the whole job is done. Another question, do I need to use a clay bar prior to the two polishing steps? Hopefully, this car has good paint and has been kept outnof the sun! Thank you!
What will happen if i compound the car paint without clear coat left?
And how do i know if that car paint have no more clear coat left?
Should i bring it to the painter to coat it before i do the compound or polishing process?
I am attempting to take orange peel out of a PPG Delfleet single stage I have used both 105 and 205 and also 3M trizact number one and 2 wool first then foam. Looking down the panel it’s like glass, looking strait at the panel from a 90 degree, there is cloudiness or haze in the white. What am I doing wrong? As you said, the residue is hard to get out of corners etc. thanks
What would you say is a modern day upgrade to the DIYer from 105 and 205?
love your videos!!
curious as to what your favorite compound and favorite polish would be ( being that meguiars is outdated)... iam looking for the obvious: easy cleanup, no dusting, good work time, nice cut and HIGH GLOSS... any recommendations as to what you would personally use to achieve this/ near perfection?
keep the great videos coming!
I was hoping to see the same as I need to polish my truck.
I am interested in removing orange peel without wet sanding on toyota finishes/ clear coats. Will M105, The CarPro Velvet Orange Peel Removal Pad, and a Rupes LHR 15 Mark 3 at the correct speed be too much for orange peel removal on soft toyota paints and finishes?
My 105 sits on the shelf in the family room next to the other stuff I don’t use.
Thanks. What is the QED spray that you mentioned?
Good info
That car really looks good after your done, I am trying to use the 110-210 on my 2020 Hyundai Elantra, the people before me put bags and stuff on the roof and trunk probably kids backpacks, im using Chemical Guys yellow pad and a Bauer longthrow , I run it at about 2 or 3 on the dial with a lot of 110 but its just barely doing anything, should I use a wool pad? Thanks
You mention that another product would be more effective without leaving minor swirls. Which product would that be, please?
Which compound do you recommend for working in the sun. One that'll remove 2000 wet sand scratches? One with a long working cycle
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Apex Detail thanks I'll give this a try and go ahead and throw away my m105 lol