Destroying A Greenbelt

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  • Ontario tearing into the greenbelt is a warning to people in cities across the world. If your city doesn’t build at some point higher levels of government will step in, and you probably won’t like the result.
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  • @PaigeMTL
    @PaigeMTL  ปีที่แล้ว +44

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    • @Barnaclebeard
      @Barnaclebeard ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What? No.... What?? This is all... what???

    • @gfox5237
      @gfox5237 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ive loved the series! Please...please do a video on regional government vs higher levels dictating development policy...
      Even if it's just a historical look at Metro Toronto government instead of suggesting a future one.
      Also sorry for leaving at least one dickheaded comment on each vid....Fox gonna Fox 🦊

  • @trnstn1
    @trnstn1 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    The facade of environmentalism but really they don’t want any change- in Toronto we are trying to densify in the core and build rapid transit but it’s being stalled literally for a handful of old trees by NIMBY types, but no complaints about taking down way more green lands and having people drive downtown. The priorities are asinine.

    • @hylje
      @hylje ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Honest NIMBYing isn’t all that popular, so there’s a million ways to justify not building anything anywhere near you with lofty-sounding goals and intangible complications.
      It’s not all that complicated, NIMBYs just don’t want to build.

    • @KayleLang
      @KayleLang ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They're also trying the Native American rights card to save those trees. I am not sure how valid that claim is, but I'm sure it's just a cover for simple Nimbyism.

    • @barvdw
      @barvdw ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Admittedly, I'm a little torn on this. Density is definitely needed, but people have also a need to connect to nature and a proximity to green spaces, and a big tree ads so much to a neighbourhood, like shade, a living space for many animals, etc.
      I also find it a bit hard to believe that we can't incorporate existing elements better into our city design, everything that existed has to be removed to start all over again each time. But some old industrial warehouses can be very cool spaces to develop, trees can be used to build courtyards around, heck, there's a plot of land that got developed close by with a natural spring that was incorporated into a natural water surface.

    • @dylanc9174
      @dylanc9174 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​@@barvdwensity is the priority. You can build density, and then build parks and green space around it. Nature should be natural, or outside the cities. Sprawl is what kills nature. The least sprawl possible is the best outcome.
      Parks are good, but they shouldn't hinder mobility in a city by being overly big, and they CANNOT impede needed density. Parklets are fine, and you can fit them anywhere in a city, but real parks are found on the outskirts of cities, or outside them. If trees lining streets help cool them then that is good.
      Keep in mind cities are built for people, not trees. If 1 tree needs to be torn down so be it.

    • @barvdw
      @barvdw ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dylanc9174 I disagree. Stone deserts aren't just a horrible place to live (and thus very unattractive, meaning people actively avoid living there if they can), they are energetical, environmental and hydrological disasters.
      Just trying to keep an area covered in concrete dry after a downpour is a logistical nightmare, while it heats up like crazy as soon as the sun is out.
      We need inclusive construction, with trees to cool the streets, ditches and wadis to capture precipitation to fill the aquifers, as well as to avoid overflowing sewers, we need parks for kids to play and adults to walk, enjoy, etc.
      You can't build a city with only houses, you need schools, hospitals, shops, factories, heck, you even need theatres and amusement parks. Need, not want. And you need parks, too.
      This is not an argument against high-rises and density, or an argument for single-family home development, on the contrary. Again, I don't think a tree is sacred, and I dislike the kind of suburbanisation the US has made standard, this last century or so, with a passion. But we aren't separated from nature, we are part of it. Disallowing people that connection to nature is a recipe for even more depressions and unhappiness.

  • @TheNewTravel
    @TheNewTravel ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Have we entered Paige's daily video era?

    • @PaigeMTL
      @PaigeMTL  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      … And it ended

    • @Humulator
      @Humulator ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...and it ended for 4 months...

  • @TheSharkasmCrew
    @TheSharkasmCrew ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I love the spotlight (and criticism) that Hamilton's been getting in these recent videos. There's definitely a paradigm shift happening in the city atm, and also a huge push back from much of a city. I'm excited to see how things shake up but it's an uphill battle for sure.

  • @GFmanaic
    @GFmanaic ปีที่แล้ว +5

    5:35 hey that's your bus again! Another hour!

  • @Manu-et9rj
    @Manu-et9rj ปีที่แล้ว +8

    wow 4 videos in a week from paige saunders, what a treat

  • @djsiii4737
    @djsiii4737 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Great video! I watch this at the exact moment I'm reviewing plans for a 2 story street oriented mixed use building at the edge of the "urban area" which had the surrounding suburban neighborhood up in arms suggesting the parking lot will be used for human trafficking and even had a police officer (who lives nearby) arguing against it because police driving by couldn't see the parking lot because it was behind the building!! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Crap I've gotta deal with.
    I wouldn't say it's Hamilton Planners' fault there's so much low density crap. The developers are getting planning consultants to submit their plans, they're the ones with no vision (unless the planning consultant is getting paid to support high density, then you mr. Municipal Planner better get on board with supporting the developers vision or else you're obstructionist). The Hamilton Planners will be accused of not getting housing built fast enough of he demands the developer change their plans to high density and mixed use (plus also note they'll have to refund the application fees if not approved or denied in 90 days 🙃). But I'll give you credit, the vision needs to start with the official plan/ secondary plan which is primarily the municipality responsibility (unless again the developer lobbies for what they want in the policy plans).

    • @PaigeMTL
      @PaigeMTL  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The official and secondary plans are the problem. It was never possible for all this new greenfield turned to single residential not to be sprawl, that is by far the largest problem and 100% on the city. Developers usually squeeze every dollar they can out of land. If the rules define the ingredients as shit and bread, of course they're going to make a shit sandwich.
      The vision is the problem and that is the job of elected officials to make, the city to implement in policy and the developers to follow in building.

  • @SleinJinn
    @SleinJinn ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Starts with a 'C'..." Hmm... "Candy-assed"? "Crappy"? "Cockamamie"? ... "Canadian"?

  • @mikewestwick4079
    @mikewestwick4079 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    “Where’s the density dickheads” is potentially one of the most Paige lines you’ve ever put in a thing haha. Well done as always!

  • @Alex_Plante
    @Alex_Plante ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another source of corruption is when city governments expropriate many small contiguous parcels of undeveloped land, consolidate the parcels and then resell the consolidated land to developers.

  • @Amir-jn5mo
    @Amir-jn5mo ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for your hard work Paige

  • @seethruhead7119
    @seethruhead7119 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ah yes build more suburbs that are net negative tax sinkholes.

  • @abubakarmaster
    @abubakarmaster ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow, just wow, every single video is better than the last, Subed to the pateron because wow wow wow

    • @PaigeMTL
      @PaigeMTL  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks so much. Probably won’t have another video for a while, but that’s why it’s only pay per creation and you’ll be the first to know.

  • @JaspreetSingh-kn5qr
    @JaspreetSingh-kn5qr ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love how I just recently discovered the channel right when your putting out videos left and right

  • @MyNameIsJustinKeenan
    @MyNameIsJustinKeenan ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am not a fan of the "doing better next time" stage. 😞
    Thanks for the great videos.

  • @TalwinderDhillonTravels
    @TalwinderDhillonTravels ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Green belt being ripped out for dense neighbourhoods is good. But if you are going to replace it with single family zoning then it’s horrible

  • @TheGreatSovietUnion2
    @TheGreatSovietUnion2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh, you're just seeing the tip of the iceberg about just how bad Hamilton planning is... can't get anything good accomplished. And when something great is proposed after years of work, the build date is maybe 15 or more years away, so the plan will be watered down or scrapped in that time frame.

  • @CalCalCal6996
    @CalCalCal6996 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks for still making great content Paige. I had to move back to Ottawa from Montreal last but I still love your content. You're great!

  • @pianoman47
    @pianoman47 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You're calling it like it is and I love it!

  • @meltingtomato
    @meltingtomato ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Damn dude, didn't know you visited The Hammer recently! Thank you so much for contextualizing all the hot mess from the past 6 months in Ontario. We need density ASAP, especially here in Hamilton, but everything moves at a glacial pace. And the by-laws aren't even the only issue - because of the absurd size of the city and the sheer amount of farmland, we have zone rating for property taxes, so that those with wells and septic tanks don't pay for sewers or transit.
    If you're still here, to see tons of super low density development, just take a peak along the south side of Rymal Road from Upper Paradise to Upper Centennial, as well as Binbrook and Ancaster.

  • @jonathanlanglois2742
    @jonathanlanglois2742 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Geez, I though that Sherbrooke was bad, but at the very least, there has been zoning reforms and the city is definitely getting denser.

  • @erikdalesio5862
    @erikdalesio5862 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Hamiltons downtown does have lots of buildings planned in those parking lots!!! Lets just hope they get built 🥸

    • @PaigeMTL
      @PaigeMTL  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hope -> MAKE.
      I really like Hamilton, it just feels like it's not getting ahead of things. It's 2023, the urbanism gameplay is pretty well defined at this point.
      If you're in the area, the height limit downtown and land banking really stood out to me... also, drop by The North Fork, it's my regular when I'm in town and the owner is a gem.

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 ปีที่แล้ว

      'Planned' can just be a way of squatting on land until speculation pumps the land price up.

  • @AntipodesAnalyst
    @AntipodesAnalyst ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So confused about your accent. It sounds like an even mix of Canadian / American / NZ / Australian??

  • @hylje
    @hylje ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of my most durable gripes is that “environmentalists” have absolutely no problem having the houses people need to live built in vast untouched natural (or agricultural) areas far out of their sight, as long as nothing is done to their neighbourhood.
    It’s dishonest, because it’s just NIMBYing in a tree costume.

  • @ramiro041
    @ramiro041 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope you do reupload this in the future with more subs... these amazing videos can't be capped at a few thousand views

  • @MrAlen6e
    @MrAlen6e ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Unfortunately unless politicians stop thinking about appeasing the suburbia people and nimbys at the expense of proper housing and the public good change will be slow and it will continue to affect everyone at the expense of landlords and developers

  • @proposmontreal
    @proposmontreal ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So Hamilton is the Brossard of Montreal.

  • @Webinthamind
    @Webinthamind ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your content sir

  • @sean.grogan
    @sean.grogan ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Have you moved to Ontario? Or were you visiting for the series?

    • @PaigeMTL
      @PaigeMTL  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Just for the series, found bill 23 an interesting challenge to explain.

  • @BikeHelmetMk2
    @BikeHelmetMk2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Since I attended meetings for nearby developments, and observed some of the process, I realise how spot on he really is. It's everywhere. BC is full of NIMBYs. There is no new land out here unless it's owned by a developer - in which case, score, rezoned for high density in a transit free area! Everyone else? Single Family Zoning, no Duplex or Triplex or multi-plex.

  • @killerspade
    @killerspade ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hamilton's new council and mayor push it in a more progressive direction, I have high hopes for this council to get serious on zoning and related items (parking minimums are such low hanging fruit). They currently seem more interested in political theatre with the province.

  • @tinycha0s
    @tinycha0s 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Look at what happened in Newfoundland to know how this will end.

  • @davenrai
    @davenrai ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everything sucks and I hate it

  • @empirestate8791
    @empirestate8791 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really wish these new greenbelt developments are walkable urban villages with a mix of housing types and shops centered around a train or bus rapid transit station. Instead they're going to be unwalkable suburbs located off freeway interchanges where everyone has to drive everywhere. At least they can be densified in the future!

  • @matteopennacchietti9831
    @matteopennacchietti9831 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! Keep em coming!

  • @AaronTheHarris
    @AaronTheHarris ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We gotta get Paige to 100k subs by the end of the year. This series is too good.

  • @robertcox14
    @robertcox14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perhaps the tory was forced by the ford - and then the ford rolls into mayor's office....

  • @clowngeetwo2825
    @clowngeetwo2825 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Newwwww thumbnaaaaaaail

  • @quackywhackityphillyb.3005
    @quackywhackityphillyb.3005 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:04, hey i live there, yay me i guess

  • @sekeidesign
    @sekeidesign 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate it here

  • @ilikeshroomgals
    @ilikeshroomgals 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let the greenbelt be.

  • @iancypes5911
    @iancypes5911 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They're Ripping Up A Greenbelt
    They're Ripping Up A Greenbelt
    They're Ripping Up A Greenbelt for you and me
    Oh Baby, you and me

  • @Unterwelten
    @Unterwelten ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So glad I left Onterrible, such a dump!

  • @mitchellbarnow1709
    @mitchellbarnow1709 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:36 Canadians love the cold, don’t they?

  • @lorenzocardoza1665
    @lorenzocardoza1665 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First!

  • @burakozdemir1756
    @burakozdemir1756 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hamilton is a shit hole. Took them 23 years to bring a fucking go station to east Hamilton