You said it right there m8. You fly these tests to find the limits so we don't find the limit ourselves by mistake. Thank you for risking you're drone for me and everyone else that watch it 🏴☠️🚁
Thank you! That's exactly why I share these tests... Not because I enjoy crashing these amazing drones, but to share the honest limitations for everyone to be wary of 🍻
By the way, congrats on the pinned comment to the top. This is one of the main reasons I do these reviews. For knowledge to everyone for what these pricey tools can and cannot do 🍻
About ur lost mini 4 i have an theory. What if there was someone that saw the drone and came to It and took it. Or if there were some issues and it just continue to go somewhere and maybe landed on the road?
if you go out at dusk or sunrise when there's a large temperature gradient -- you could use an aerial thermal camera to spot the plastic of the drone vs vegetation temps.
@jonclement he'd be pretty lucky to find it that way dude. Plus we'll if he didnt have a good thermal already hardly worth getting just for that. Thermals are bloody awesome though haha. Pretty scary though in the hands of an enemy.
I have always wanted a Drone but the thought of throwing thousands of dollars away from a simple crash has stopped me from buying one for years. This video has showed me once again just how fragile and easy they are to crash and break. Thanks
Dude. Do what a lot us did years ago. Start with inexpensive brands. Not the cheep ones from walmart. Build your experience and confidence and don’t compare yourself to the pros. By the time your ready to get a good one that fits your needs you’ll have it down. I started with xiami brand and only moved to dji when i was confident. Even then I started with the Spark.
Like he said he’s pushing them to the limits also for like an extra hundred bucks you can get two years of DJI care refresh as long as the drone has pieces to send to them they’ll send you a new one
only drone i ever had is the mini 2 and never had any issues. these things basically fly themselves. i was scared at first and now since its gone down so much in resale value i dont mind handing the controls over to ppl that have never flown one. dji really is drone flying for dummies. i now wish i could have just started with a mavic.
Thanks for testing the Mini 4 Pro tracking. I just recently got my Mini 4 Pro and I'm loving it, but I don't plan on trusting it with tracking around obstacles. I really do like flying it with the waypoints though. It really makes nice cinematic videos when you set up a waypoint flight, and my newest video I uploaded shows how it works.
I digging waypoints. I've even setup a route using only the satellite layer on the map view and it did surprisingly well.. more accurate than I expected. My latest ambition is to get more familiar with hyperlapse. My first attempt failed because I couldn't find it in the menu....then I watched somebody just swipe upward in the menu I kept looking for the icon in...derpadeeerp!
Have they Thought of a little watch battery to run small flashing lights or a homing beacon to make it easier to find the Drones when lost or a bright stripe.
@DustinDunhill did you consider attaching an airtag to your drones when performing your range tests? It could help to find them in case it doesn't make it back.
I could very well be wrong but I think the newer air tags are 11 gr.... I just learned the m4p plus battery is about 43 gr. heavier than the standard batt...yikes!
You fooled me! 🤣 My DJI Mini 4 Pro is on its way to me for my birthday! Can't wait! 🤩 I also live in a forest with lots of tall trees. I'm disappointed in your test, but glad you did this test. Hopefully, mine will do much better. Thanks for this very informative test.
I've upgraded to M4P this week. Went to see how Active Track works and had a crash on the very first try (drone flew backwards into branches with leaves on). I was walking and not speeding on a bike so the drone had all the time in the world. I have no idea how can they state that this thing has Omni Directional obstacle avoidance and provide this wheel with drone positions where you can place it anywhere you want. Didn't DJI test it to see that it does not work well enough?
They moved the back-facing sensors towards the front of the drone and that surely gives the controller a huge blind-spot when flying backwards since it can't 'see' through the aircraft body. Thanks for creating your videos, I'm sure it helps many people avoid such issues themselves. I know that I have been greatly informed by your work, in case I purchase a mini 4, as I am considering.
Great video. I'm thinking to upgrade from the 3 to the 4, but the omni obstacle avoidance is one of the main reasons, and if it's...well...not exactly great at avoiding obstacles, then perhaps it's best to wait for now.
Thank you for your review Hopefully DJI acknowledges all that happened in this video and addresses these tracking issues. Because 360° obstacle avoidance is The phone line crash was the one I was curious about.. I previously took my Mini3Pro for a spin in Sicily, tracking me on a motorbike, and it successfully dodged all power lines.
Thank you for this video. I was on the fence about upgrading from my mini 3 pro to this but given the tracking and obstacle poor performance, I will wait for the next version. Hopefully they improve the features. Having the drone constantly crashing and losing the tracking is not good. Thank you for your honest review
I can’t believe this DJI needs to fix this bro because that happens to me too , I have my second drone m4p and yesterday crashed so bad in one big tree in active track mode , my mini 3 pro I never had issues like this 😢 I wan my mini 3 pro back 😊
…and I’m just imagining the incredible processing power it has in managing the camera, and 4 props, with the varied limb density of TREES? Holy cow Batman!
You did a great job Dustin but very wrong you needed to put the active track in vehicle mode not person mode even though your on a bike it’s a vehicle and the drone acts way better when following and does a lot better when at higher speeds if you put it in the right mode vehicle mode is not just for cars and efficient the speed and actions of the mini 4 pro drone. It’s also worth noting that it’s had a few more updates on active track since this video. Keep up the great work please your vids are great for people .
I agree.. on the bike he was traveling faster than a person would typically travel making it hard for the drone to see him and track him which was prolly throwing off the obstacle avoidance because Iv seen these drones not avoid well when they have to also try and find you or locate you at the same time.. it doesn’t know whether it should look for you or avoid an obstacle obstacle which causes it to not detect soon/early enough and crash. I think he should redo this test when he gets his replacement drone and try again Also it’s well known that the mini 4 doesn’t see pine trees very well.. pine trees for the mini sensors are like trees with no leaves basically so it had that going against it also
Maybe the tracking avoidance would do better with higher density objects. Like trees with leaves instead of needles like pine. Fly above the trees and use your zoom to get a close up shot. Like the power line......just to thin for it to detect and respond. In brushy environment I would have it close as not to loose it's subject as you did. Good test.
Chances I wouldn't take, but I appreciate getting real info on the limitations. Perhaps DJI should produce a beacon you keep on your person ala SkyDio. I don't see how anyone can expect M4P to be anywhere as good as SkyDio, when they are using purely visual tracking and with nowhere near the same resolution of visual sensors, not to mention way less processing power so that it can be passively cooled in such a small package. I'm not disappointed, but was hoping against hope for better results.
Silly algorithm it seems like. Why fly to the right around that tree when there is all of that space on the left, unless it just can't map things out well with more objects in the picture because of limited processing power?? Also, have you seen the sensor view (future you of today). There isn't loads of detail there.
I really think you are determined to kill it and the other one. Smashing it beyond all sensibility. Love to see some ocean and forest beauty Dji should be praised.
@@DustinDunnill no one is going to do active tracking in the middle of a forest of trees, trust me. The only drone you tested that was somehow decent and didn't fail this test totally was the SkyDio but its using a bacon tracking, quite a different thing.
You may be confused about the Skydio beacon. Drone is using visual tracking and avoidance until the subject is lost. The beacon comes into play when it visually loses subject and queries the GPS to find the subject again, flies to that tracking point, then re establishes visual tracking.🍻
Great video - Any update on if they did release an update that improved the tracking? I would love to see the same test after that update to see if they really did fix the issues you had or not!
I asked same question. Subject scanning does the job great and has mode for normal and a faster tracking option...can't remember..but followed my bike at 25mph
youtubers are out there to try and earn a living from views, you know. And the faster they are when something's new the more views they get on a hot topic. And if they skip some parts and make the drone crash, all the better, because it makes for a more catchy title - and more views lol.
It seems like they're using different sensor in front, doesn't it? Or the back & sides aren't programmed to respond with the data as when using the front camera. When losing tracking of you, I envision a b&w setting and when you pass through the shadows of the trees, you become one with the shadow. It seems like it almost needs a heat signature to focus on... but I do like the changes in the 4 vs the 3, based on the various videos I've watched. I kinda like the mini 4. Thanks for testing all the sensors. There's always room for improvement. If they fixed everything at once, we'd have nothing to look forward to. LOL
They changed sensors and placement for rear on this one. Perhaps this has something to do with rear obstacle sensing effectiveness not being so great 🍻
Wow! I've been considering getting into drones as a hobby and, after much research, decided my best bet was the DJI mini 4, which I planned to purchase just after Xmas (hoping there's a sale). But now I'm not so sure.
Great demo of the tracking and obstacle avoidance. Ive had my mini 4 pro for about a month and I havent had the guts to try this on it yet. After this, i think im going to wait for a better firmware update to use it.
Good video, thanks for your efforts. I have an Mini 4 pro and and Air 3 and I like to know how far I can push them. I was amazed the M4 hit a power wire and kept flying! Awesome! If you use superglue on repairs, use either some cement (actual concrete cement) with the superglue. Lay some glue, sprinkle with cement powder, add more glue, and more powder and so on... will be 19 times stronger. Ground up pencil lead or graphite works as good as cement too. Super hard bond. Greetings from Down Under
I am trying to further my understanding before I purchase one... my question from yours, as well as others content without you actually making note... when you are on the e-bike and in active tracking, the fact that the display shows two rings for selecting position means it identifies you as a "person" so assumes you are on foot walking...??? 1) Doesn't that put the software into a mode thinking you can only walk/run so fast... and that is the cause of it always saying you are moving too fast? 2) Can you change it to think you are an "object" like when in the vehicle so that it drops the "inner ring" and can allow you to travel faster (even tho you are still a person on a bike). My reason to want one it to capture video of me riding my adventure bike on dirt roads on my travels... seems not being able to track while driving 18-25mph is going to make it unusable for this application... Last thing... I think you need to have some lower level of expectation. I imagine if you are actually "flying" the drone using a lower resolution display (similar to the object avoidance cameras) and trying to zip along at 20mph AND predict the direction of travel... you as a human "pilot" would probably fly into a tree because you just cannot react fast enough... So, then, why do you expect the drone's reationary software to operate better than a "novice" drone pilot? maybe it is not possible yet...
Lol Dustin,, maybe you shouldn't have started the video with a foreshadowing of a crash. Was waiting to see if you found the other mini 4. It has to be in a tree too bad you gave up on her. Great job as usual. That was intense. I think they track better above the treeline height not enough processing power at lower height also the speed of the track slows at lower height.. Great video!!
Damn bud, when I saw those wires, I was oooo nooo, just because mine hit them as well, also tree branches with no leaves, aparently if it's thin enough it can't see them Thank you again for the video, you are teaching us loads
In that corner where the drones keeps losing track, I am speculating that the drone is looking at the road trying to anticipate your forward direction. In the video I noticed there is a driveway at the curve. It possible the drone is calculating that you will continue on the driveway, which is less of a curve, rather than follow the sharper curve in the road (picking between the two). Without the driveway, it is likely the drone would follow the curve. Just an educated guess. Typically, any semi-pro use of the footage would be edited clips of just a few seconds. In other words, the tracking software is likely optimized for short, and highly controlled, scenarios. Clearly much more improvement can be done.
Ví el cable de teléfono antes del accidente mientras estaba pasando el cursor rápido por tu video sin reproducirlo y ahí me dije..."Oh mierda😵nooo..espero que el drone no se enganche con el cable y caiga a la calle! Tuviste mucha, muchisima suerte! Los sensores no detectan esos cables, no lo ven como obstáculo, son demasiados delgados. Hace unos anios, volando con mi Mavic Pro 1, ví los cables recién cuando miré el video en mi televisor...no podía creer lo cerca que había volado sobre esos cables, a penas un par de centímetros. 😲😂 Tengo mi Mini 4 Pro desde navidad, aún no he experimentado nada, solo un par de vuelos normales. Muy buen video, gracias por compartirlo y saludos de un argentino desde Baviera, Alemania! PD: Lástima que el Skydio no se vende en Europa, no se permite ( no se por que!)..se que es muy bueno!
Hey Dustin, when you were doing the dji mavic pro review there wasn't auto focus. I have the mavic pro platinum and I think there is auto focus. What do you do with your old drones? Do u have them in shelfs and only charge batteries
I think, the M3P did better. They only put now fisheye lenses on the 4 Sensors - Now it sees more angle but that gives the drone less resolution/pixels of the objects in comparison to the mini 3 pro how sees only in the front/back 😢 ...DJI needs 6 cameras or way bigger Obstical Avoidance Sensors to fix those issues!
so sad Sir Dustin, you havent found, but as expected it is what you test the limit and expect for the unexpected.. Fan from Cebu Philippines.. God Bless Sir..
I did a tracking video, on a bicycle, through a narrow manicured path and it never hit anything. I had it set to manual tracking mode. All the other modes caused it to lose tracking. I was wearing an orange shirt against a green background of vegetation.
There will be a 5, a 6, a 7, and so on of course. I bought the Mini 3 Pro on launch, and it's been about a year and a half since then. I've had the Mini since they first had the Mavic Mini with NO GPS, and used Bluetooth. The is really disappointing. It's not like they DON'T have the money to do far more R&D. I hope DJI gets this right, sooner rather than later.
Hmmm I think ill stick with my mini 3 pro and wait for the mini 16 pro to come out! hopefully by then the obstacle avoidance issue would have been sorted?😳
Have you had a chance to try the tracking over water. I bass fish and want to get one of these for some B footage while I'm fishing. Enjoy your informative videos.
Great video - My opinion is, at this price range and the poor flight algorithm along with the choice of plastic, makes this a "NO" for me. I appreciate the hard effort and time you have put into this. I'm now subscribing to your channel. Great work.
with your lost drone on the range test, why not look at the very last frame of the video and fly the new one to the same view and position and land it, it will give you a rough area of where to start lookin for it.
Wow does that suck!... Thats one reason I didn't order the Avata. As much as I wanted to get into the FPV Hobby, I figured they would make the mini 4 compatible with goggles soon (I hope) and I could still experience FPV with that. I recently crashed my C189 MD500 Helicopter up at Oak Flats about a week ago and that was real discouraging. I think it was defective right out of the box… I hit auto takeoff on its maiden voyage, and it took off to about 60 feet and didn't pay any attention to my control input, until I hit the "oh shit" button, and it fell out of the sky bouncing down a ponderosa pine tree. 😂 I got lucky & it didn't bust it but still… Very discouraging.... look me up...I am one of the water haulers up here (Wht truck w/blue tank)...the name of my business is Aquaman (water hauling). Hopefully you have the care warr. & DJI will take care of fixing your m4p.. Mine should be here Thurs but Im real concerned about the OA issues you were experiencing..
Hey Joe, Great to hear from a local. You've probably delivered water to one of my mom's cabins on Bobolink. Anyway, there is an update on its way to enable goggle use and improve 360 tracking. I'd stay away from tracking until it improves 🍻
@@DustinDunnillAwesome!....Thanks for the heds up.., Im sure a few people might be glad to hear that...Thanks for "taking one" for the team Dustin...👍🏻 Nice Eahora choppa E-bike btw! If you still have your Ariel Grissly, we will have to ride some trails this spring... Ive got a Sondors Rockstar thats pretty coo...
Definitely an extreme test tracking vehicles with trees on all sides. IMHO tracking moving vehicles from the front is never going to work well without a massive increase in computing power. The drone has no way of predicting which way the target or the roadway is going to turn, so it winds up out of position amid the trees. Also attempting an orbit on a moving target, on a narrow road with trees all around, is probably an unrealistic demand. Surviving the first crash mostly unscathed was good. Recovering from hitting the wire without falling to the asphalt was impressive. The final fatal crash goes back to my first comment regarding tracking from the front. You can see the drone failed to predict the turn, flew straight on as the road turned, then attempted to get back out front, ultimately leading to the inevitable fatal crash. Hopefully you had Refresh? $65 & a few days & you'll be back in the air with a new drone. I agree the Skydio is superior at sport tracking, however, in my opinion the recorded footage from a Skydio is terrible when it comes to cinematic quality. The Skydio dances all over the place like a squirrel in the roadway. It's like hiring the cameraman from the Blair Witch Project or Cloverfield. DJI wins the cinematic award every time. Also the Skydio isn't much fun to fly manually. For the ultimate tracking you need to put Joshua Bardwell in the passenger seat with an FPV quad. Then you'll have awesome tracking at highway speeds! :)
Thinking about purchasing one and was wondering if you have tested the Pro4 over water. I have a TH-cam fishing content channel and was thinking about using one to get some on the water B footage. Enjoy your videos.
Subscribed! Just flew my mini4pro for the first time. Like it so far but haven't tried the tracking feature yet. When is new firmware planned to improve this weakness?
That last crash at the end, I think you had put the avoidance into 'Nifty'? In nifty, the avoidance is a bit optimistic... it takes more risk than usual... hence the warning. I see the avoidance like a rev limiter in a car... the rev limiter is not to notify you when to change gears, it is there to stop you accidentally busting your motor. Many (especially young) drivers seem to change gears about 2 seconds after they hit the rev limiter haha. I reckon the stage we are at with obstacle avoidance, is not yet 'full autonomy'... it is there so if you are about to fly into something, it will warn you at least, then try to get around whatever is in the way... but we still need to be watching. I don't believe we can rely on avoidance at speed in tight places just yet... I am sure DJI are working on it.
You said it right there m8. You fly these tests to find the limits so we don't find the limit ourselves by mistake. Thank you for risking you're drone for me and everyone else that watch it 🏴☠️🚁
Thank you! That's exactly why I share these tests... Not because I enjoy crashing these amazing drones, but to share the honest limitations for everyone to be wary of 🍻
By the way, congrats on the pinned comment to the top. This is one of the main reasons I do these reviews. For knowledge to everyone for what these pricey tools can and cannot do 🍻
About ur lost mini 4 i have an theory. What if there was someone that saw the drone and came to It and took it. Or if there were some issues and it just continue to go somewhere and maybe landed on the road?
Maybe a.. portal?
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if you go out at dusk or sunrise when there's a large temperature gradient -- you could use an aerial thermal camera to spot the plastic of the drone vs vegetation temps.
@jonclement he'd be pretty lucky to find it that way dude. Plus we'll if he didnt have a good thermal already hardly worth getting just for that.
Thermals are bloody awesome though haha. Pretty scary though in the hands of an enemy.
I have always wanted a Drone but the thought of throwing thousands of dollars away from a simple crash has stopped me from buying one for years. This video has showed me once again just how fragile and easy they are to crash and break. Thanks
Dude. Do what a lot us did years ago. Start with inexpensive brands. Not the cheep ones from walmart. Build your experience and confidence and don’t compare yourself to the pros. By the time your ready to get a good one that fits your needs you’ll have it down. I started with xiami brand and only moved to dji when i was confident. Even then I started with the Spark.
Like he said he’s pushing them to the limits also for like an extra hundred bucks you can get two years of DJI care refresh as long as the drone has pieces to send to them they’ll send you a new one
THIS!@@Brandon-jf9cv
only drone i ever had is the mini 2 and never had any issues. these things basically fly themselves. i was scared at first and now since its gone down so much in resale value i dont mind handing the controls over to ppl that have never flown one. dji really is drone flying for dummies. i now wish i could have just started with a mavic.
31:45 that's why we love you man.. That's what seperates you from the other channels. Great video man, Happy coming holidays!
Thanks for testing the Mini 4 Pro tracking. I just recently got my Mini 4 Pro and I'm loving it, but I don't plan on trusting it with tracking around obstacles. I really do like flying it with the waypoints though. It really makes nice cinematic videos when you set up a waypoint flight, and my newest video I uploaded shows how it works.
There is no video on your channel about how you set up way points.
I digging waypoints. I've even setup a route using only the satellite layer on the map view and it did surprisingly well.. more accurate than I expected. My latest ambition is to get more familiar with hyperlapse. My first attempt failed because I couldn't find it in the menu....then I watched somebody just swipe upward in the menu I kept looking for the icon in...derpadeeerp!
Glad you got another. Nobody I trust more with truthful Content!
Have they Thought of a little watch battery to run small flashing lights or a homing beacon to make it easier to find the Drones when lost or a bright stripe.
@DustinDunhill did you consider attaching an airtag to your drones when performing your range tests? It could help to find them in case it doesn't make it back.
Yes but 20grams is a lot of extra weight 🍻
I could very well be wrong but I think the newer air tags are 11 gr....
I just learned the m4p plus battery is about 43 gr. heavier than the standard batt...yikes!
@@DustinDunnill I would remove the outer plastic of the tag and attach it inside of the drone
You fooled me! 🤣
My DJI Mini 4 Pro is on its way to me for my birthday! Can't wait! 🤩
I also live in a forest with lots of tall trees. I'm disappointed in your test, but glad you did this test. Hopefully, mine will do much better. Thanks for this very informative test.
Happy birthday 🎉. Be careful until the new update coming soon. It should perform much better in 360 tracking 🍻
@@DustinDunnill Thank you, that's good to hear.
I've upgraded to M4P this week. Went to see how Active Track works and had a crash on the very first try (drone flew backwards into branches with leaves on). I was walking and not speeding on a bike so the drone had all the time in the world. I have no idea how can they state that this thing has Omni Directional obstacle avoidance and provide this wheel with drone positions where you can place it anywhere you want. Didn't DJI test it to see that it does not work well enough?
26:16 Dustin: “Let me just start out in the front”
DJI: So you’ve chosen death.
They moved the back-facing sensors towards the front of the drone and that surely gives the controller a huge blind-spot when flying backwards since it can't 'see' through the aircraft body.
Thanks for creating your videos, I'm sure it helps many people avoid such issues themselves. I know that I have been greatly informed by your work, in case I purchase a mini 4, as I am considering.
Great video. I'm thinking to upgrade from the 3 to the 4, but the omni obstacle avoidance is one of the main reasons, and if it's...well...not exactly great at avoiding obstacles, then perhaps it's best to wait for now.
Oh man, you are getting through a LOT of Mini 4's! Thanks for taking the time to test these to destruction and find their limits :)
Thank you for your review
Hopefully DJI acknowledges all that happened in this video and addresses these tracking issues. Because 360° obstacle avoidance is The phone line crash was the one I was curious about.. I previously took my Mini3Pro for a spin in Sicily, tracking me on a motorbike, and it successfully dodged all power lines.
Thank you for this video. I was on the fence about upgrading from my mini 3 pro to this but given the tracking and obstacle poor performance, I will wait for the next version. Hopefully they improve the features. Having the drone constantly crashing and losing the tracking is not good. Thank you for your honest review
Hello Dustin, Thank you for your clear explanation of various drone topics. The calm way you explain topics is enlightening to me!
Great testing of the tracking feature on the Mini 4 Pro. I was very impressed. Thanks for sharing.
I can’t believe this DJI needs to fix this bro because that happens to me too , I have my second drone m4p and yesterday crashed so bad in one big tree in active track mode , my mini 3 pro I never had issues like this 😢 I wan my mini 3 pro back 😊
…and I’m just imagining the incredible processing power it has in managing the camera, and 4 props, with the varied limb density of TREES? Holy cow Batman!
You did a great job Dustin but very wrong you needed to put the active track in vehicle mode not person mode even though your on a bike it’s a vehicle and the drone acts way better when following and does a lot better when at higher speeds if you put it in the right mode vehicle mode is not just for cars and efficient the speed and actions of the mini 4 pro drone. It’s also worth noting that it’s had a few more updates on active track since this video. Keep up the great work please your vids are great for people .
I agree.. on the bike he was traveling faster than a person would typically travel making it hard for the drone to see him and track him which was prolly throwing off the obstacle avoidance because Iv seen these drones not avoid well when they have to also try and find you or locate you at the same time.. it doesn’t know whether it should look for you or avoid an obstacle obstacle which causes it to not detect soon/early enough and crash.
I think he should redo this test when he gets his replacement drone and try again
Also it’s well known that the mini 4 doesn’t see pine trees very well.. pine trees for the mini sensors are like trees with no leaves basically so it had that going against it also
That's what I need to do! Find a way to attach the controller to my MC tank.
Maybe the tracking avoidance would do better with higher density objects. Like trees with leaves instead of needles like pine. Fly above the trees and use your zoom to get a close up shot. Like the power line......just to thin for it to detect and respond. In brushy environment I would have it close as not to loose it's subject as you did. Good test.
Chances I wouldn't take, but I appreciate getting real info on the limitations. Perhaps DJI should produce a beacon you keep on your person ala SkyDio. I don't see how anyone can expect M4P to be anywhere as good as SkyDio, when they are using purely visual tracking and with nowhere near the same resolution of visual sensors, not to mention way less processing power so that it can be passively cooled in such a small package. I'm not disappointed, but was hoping against hope for better results.
Well said 🍻
I don't have the 'walking figure' icon in the lower left corner (I have a map). How do I get that that icon displayed instead of the map?
Silly algorithm it seems like. Why fly to the right around that tree when there is all of that space on the left, unless it just can't map things out well with more objects in the picture because of limited processing power?? Also, have you seen the sensor view (future you of today). There isn't loads of detail there.
You’re doing a great job. Keep it going 👍🏻
I should be getting my mini 4 today but man I miss my Skydio drone, they were the king of tracking hands down. This video is nerve wrecking!
Lost 2 Skydios tracking over water, looks like this would not do any better. Thanks for making this video Dustin!
Perfect video was trying to figure out I make side by side videos solo so I’m trying figure wich follow drone best what would u suggest
Lol, “I think we’re done”, as arm is completely deranged. Thanks for pushing the limits and sharing the videos.
16:20 Im laughing so hard when his voice slows down too 😂
I really think you are determined to kill it and the other one. Smashing it beyond all sensibility.
Love to see some ocean and forest beauty
Dji should be praised.
Not determined... Just honest. Would you like reviewers to lie to you about how they work so you buy them and find out yourself? 😂🤷♂️🍻
@@DustinDunnill no one is going to do active tracking in the middle of a forest of trees, trust me. The only drone you tested that was somehow decent and didn't fail this test totally was the SkyDio but its using a bacon tracking, quite a different thing.
You may be confused about the Skydio beacon. Drone is using visual tracking and avoidance until the subject is lost. The beacon comes into play when it visually loses subject and queries the GPS to find the subject again, flies to that tracking point, then re establishes visual tracking.🍻
Most funny testing you've done ever Dustin 😃
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video - Any update on if they did release an update that improved the tracking? I would love to see the same test after that update to see if they really did fix the issues you had or not!
Hi, with the new firmware release, how the mini 4 pro compare to air 3 on obstacle avoidance and tracking... ? What is ur opinion? Thanks
Would it do better if it was up above the tree line?
If you use subject scanning instead of dragging, it works 10 times better!! I would like to see you try again using subject scanning.
I asked same question.
Subject scanning does the job great and has mode for normal and a faster tracking option...can't remember..but followed my bike at 25mph
youtubers are out there to try and earn a living from views, you know. And the faster they are when something's new the more views they get on a hot topic. And if they skip some parts and make the drone crash, all the better, because it makes for a more catchy title - and more views lol.
Would have liked to see the mini set over the trees following.
It seems like they're using different sensor in front, doesn't it? Or the back & sides aren't programmed to respond with the data as when using the front camera.
When losing tracking of you, I envision a b&w setting and when you pass through the shadows of the trees, you become one with the shadow. It seems like it almost needs a heat signature to focus on... but I do like the changes in the 4 vs the 3, based on the various videos I've watched. I kinda like the mini 4.
Thanks for testing all the sensors. There's always room for improvement. If they fixed everything at once, we'd have nothing to look forward to. LOL
They changed sensors and placement for rear on this one. Perhaps this has something to do with rear obstacle sensing effectiveness not being so great 🍻
@@DustinDunnill definitely something to look into. The rear is off somewhere.
Could it be because your jacket is dark? Might confuse the drone in shadows.
Wow! I've been considering getting into drones as a hobby and, after much research, decided my best bet was the DJI mini 4, which I planned to purchase just after Xmas (hoping there's a sale). But now I'm not so sure.
It's a fantastic drone just not there for autonomous obstacle avoidance....yet🍻
@@DustinDunnill I settled on the DJI Mini 3 and am enjoying it.
Good choice. Still a very capable generation 🍻
Great information, I just bought mine and I find it frustrating all of you went through!!
Great demo of the tracking and obstacle avoidance. Ive had my mini 4 pro for about a month and I havent had the guts to try this on it yet. After this, i think im going to wait for a better firmware update to use it.
I am sorry for the drone repeatedly disappointing you... Your test really discredits this little flying device.
Good video, thanks for your efforts. I have an Mini 4 pro and and Air 3 and I like to know how far I can push them. I was amazed the M4 hit a power wire and kept flying! Awesome! If you use superglue on repairs, use either some cement (actual concrete cement) with the superglue. Lay some glue, sprinkle with cement powder, add more glue, and more powder and so on... will be 19 times stronger. Ground up pencil lead or graphite works as good as cement too. Super hard bond. Greetings from Down Under
I heard baking soda works as a good bond with the glue also.
The problema with the tracking is the CONTRAST between the environment and the target! Thanks for the video
I thought it’s better to track you on sport mode ? I saw someone’s vide using sport mode tracking mode at 60kmh (30-35 mph)
I am trying to further my understanding before I purchase one... my question from yours, as well as others content without you actually making note... when you are on the e-bike and in active tracking, the fact that the display shows two rings for selecting position means it identifies you as a "person" so assumes you are on foot walking...???
1) Doesn't that put the software into a mode thinking you can only walk/run so fast... and that is the cause of it always saying you are moving too fast?
2) Can you change it to think you are an "object" like when in the vehicle so that it drops the "inner ring" and can allow you to travel faster (even tho you are still a person on a bike).
My reason to want one it to capture video of me riding my adventure bike on dirt roads on my travels... seems not being able to track while driving 18-25mph is going to make it unusable for this application...
Last thing... I think you need to have some lower level of expectation. I imagine if you are actually "flying" the drone using a lower resolution display (similar to the object avoidance cameras) and trying to zip along at 20mph AND predict the direction of travel... you as a human "pilot" would probably fly into a tree because you just cannot react fast enough... So, then, why do you expect the drone's reationary software to operate better than a "novice" drone pilot? maybe it is not possible yet...
I really appreciate this video!
Great job thanks!! It's good to know its limits before purchase!
Lol Dustin,, maybe you shouldn't have started the video with a foreshadowing of a crash. Was waiting to see if you found the other mini 4. It has to be in a tree too bad you gave up on her. Great job as usual. That was intense. I think they track better above the treeline height not enough processing power at lower height also the speed of the track slows at lower height.. Great video!!
Haven't given up yet on the lost M4p. Just too much snow on the ground right now 🍻
Awesome Video and cool bike. You've got a link for all the equipment you used. Could you please link me to the tape you used!
The tracking seems to be not working with the big black marks on the road, and clearly no retracking
Its so crazy how many emotions come up when it goes behind trees not crashing just loosing track.
Is this drone better than the mavic pro platinum?
Is there a way to have the drone active track you from the front but shoot video in front of you? Kind of like a POV?
No it needs the camera facing what it's tracking 🍻
Damn bud, when I saw those wires, I was oooo nooo, just because mine hit them as well, also tree branches with no leaves, aparently if it's thin enough it can't see them
Thank you again for the video, you are teaching us loads
What drone did you say you had that tracked you and did better than this dJ?
Best video of drone I ever watched
Looks like the obstacle sensors are still not good. Why can't it detect tree in front and automatically increase height?
In that corner where the drones keeps losing track, I am speculating that the drone is looking at the road trying to anticipate your forward direction. In the video I noticed there is a driveway at the curve. It possible the drone is calculating that you will continue on the driveway, which is less of a curve, rather than follow the sharper curve in the road (picking between the two). Without the driveway, it is likely the drone would follow the curve. Just an educated guess.
Typically, any semi-pro use of the footage would be edited clips of just a few seconds. In other words, the tracking software is likely optimized for short, and highly controlled, scenarios. Clearly much more improvement can be done.
Authentic; awesome, thank you!
it didn't see you coz your shirt camouflaged with the asphalt in a way, I guess
Could be part of it. The lighting really affected it but it lost the car pretty easily also 🤔
@@DustinDunnill yes the car thing got me surprised, I expected better behavior.
Ví el cable de teléfono antes del accidente mientras estaba pasando el cursor rápido por tu video sin reproducirlo y ahí me dije..."Oh mierda😵nooo..espero que el drone no se enganche con el cable y caiga a la calle! Tuviste mucha, muchisima suerte! Los sensores no detectan esos cables, no lo ven como obstáculo, son demasiados delgados. Hace unos anios, volando con mi Mavic Pro 1, ví los cables recién cuando miré el video en mi televisor...no podía creer lo cerca que había volado sobre esos cables, a penas un par de centímetros.
😲😂 Tengo mi Mini 4 Pro desde navidad, aún no he experimentado nada, solo un par de vuelos normales. Muy buen video, gracias por compartirlo y saludos de un argentino desde Baviera, Alemania!
PD: Lástima que el Skydio no se vende en Europa, no se permite ( no se por que!)..se que es muy bueno!
Very disappointed ☹️ dji for the mini 4 pro , the tracking mode was very poor between the trees , thanks for the video
Are you recording The audio live? If so what are you using to record the audio?
Forget about the follow me feature around the big trees or power lines.
Hey Dustin, when you were doing the dji mavic pro review there wasn't auto focus. I have the mavic pro platinum and I think there is auto focus. What do you do with your old drones? Do u have them in shelfs and only charge batteries
I ment that u did the mavic pro review 7 years ago. U should do an video are old drones usable in 2024
I think, the M3P did better. They only put now fisheye lenses on the 4 Sensors - Now it sees more angle but that gives the drone less resolution/pixels of the objects in comparison to the mini 3 pro how sees only in the front/back 😢 ...DJI needs 6 cameras or way bigger Obstical Avoidance Sensors to fix those issues!
It looks like it’s having a bit of issue telling you from the road sometimes as your clothes are pretty close to the color of the asphalt.
I think DJI should add a mode like Dronelink that it uses Signal and tracks you from 50-80m
so sad Sir Dustin, you havent found, but as expected it is what you test the limit and expect for the unexpected.. Fan from Cebu Philippines.. God Bless Sir..
I did a tracking video, on a bicycle, through a narrow manicured path and it never hit anything. I had it set to manual tracking mode. All the other modes caused it to lose tracking. I was wearing an orange shirt against a green background of vegetation.
I’m thinking of getting this drone next year for sure. They might have a 5 out by then haha 😂
There will be a 5, a 6, a 7, and so on of course. I bought the Mini 3 Pro on launch, and it's been about a year and a half since then. I've had the Mini since they first had the Mavic Mini with NO GPS, and used Bluetooth. The is really disappointing. It's not like they DON'T have the money to do far more R&D. I hope DJI gets this right, sooner rather than later.
Were you using SUBJECT SCANING?
Hmmm I think ill stick with my mini 3 pro and wait for the mini 16 pro to come out! hopefully by then the obstacle avoidance issue would have been sorted?😳
Have you retried this test with firmware updates since this video launched?
Hi Dustin. Been watching your videos from the first China knock off drones. 😅.
Curious, what mic set up are you using. Dji? It sounds good. Thanks.
Nice review.
I was stuck to the screen, watching what happens next.
Starting to understand the appeal of the hover air x1 that’s been making the rounds in social media
Have you had a chance to try the tracking over water. I bass fish and want to get one of these for some B footage while I'm fishing. Enjoy your informative videos.
Great video - My opinion is, at this price range and the poor flight algorithm along with the choice of plastic, makes this a "NO" for me.
I appreciate the hard effort and time you have put into this. I'm now subscribing to your channel. Great work.
Great vid although I never see the point of active tracking makes more sense to just let it hover in one place and walk into shot
It's extremely convenient when reviewing mobile tech. Also give a unique perspective... when it works 🍻
@@DustinDunnill AHH yes I could see that focus great testing btw👍
with your lost drone on the range test, why not look at the very last frame of the video and fly the new one to the same view and position and land it, it will give you a rough area of where to start lookin for it.
Wow does that suck!...
Thats one reason I didn't order the Avata. As much as I wanted to get into the FPV Hobby, I figured they would make the mini 4 compatible with goggles soon (I hope) and I could still experience FPV with that.
I recently crashed my C189 MD500 Helicopter up at Oak Flats about a week ago and that was real discouraging. I think it was defective right out of the box… I hit auto takeoff on its maiden voyage, and it took off to about 60 feet and didn't pay any attention to my control input, until I hit the "oh shit" button, and it fell out of the sky bouncing down a ponderosa pine tree. 😂
I got lucky & it didn't bust it but still… Very discouraging.... look me up...I am one of the water haulers up here (Wht truck w/blue tank)...the name of my business is Aquaman (water hauling).
Hopefully you have the care warr. & DJI will take care of fixing your m4p..
Mine should be here Thurs but Im real concerned about the OA issues you were experiencing..
Hey Joe,
Great to hear from a local. You've probably delivered water to one of my mom's cabins on Bobolink. Anyway, there is an update on its way to enable goggle use and improve 360 tracking. I'd stay away from tracking until it improves 🍻
@@DustinDunnillAwesome!....Thanks for the heds up.., Im sure a few people might be glad to hear that...Thanks for "taking one" for the team Dustin...👍🏻
Nice Eahora choppa E-bike btw! If you still have your Ariel Grissly, we will have to ride some trails this spring... Ive got a Sondors Rockstar thats pretty coo...
I'll wait for the Mini 9 Pro.
😂🍻🎄
waiting for IPhone 50😂
No test is a bad test if it gives you information. Nice 17:04
Definitely an extreme test tracking vehicles with trees on all sides. IMHO tracking moving vehicles from the front is never going to work well without a massive increase in computing power. The drone has no way of predicting which way the target or the roadway is going to turn, so it winds up out of position amid the trees. Also attempting an orbit on a moving target, on a narrow road with trees all around, is probably an unrealistic demand. Surviving the first crash mostly unscathed was good. Recovering from hitting the wire without falling to the asphalt was impressive. The final fatal crash goes back to my first comment regarding tracking from the front. You can see the drone failed to predict the turn, flew straight on as the road turned, then attempted to get back out front, ultimately leading to the inevitable fatal crash. Hopefully you had Refresh? $65 & a few days & you'll be back in the air with a new drone.
I agree the Skydio is superior at sport tracking, however, in my opinion the recorded footage from a Skydio is terrible when it comes to cinematic quality. The Skydio dances all over the place like a squirrel in the roadway. It's like hiring the cameraman from the Blair Witch Project or Cloverfield. DJI wins the cinematic award every time. Also the Skydio isn't much fun to fly manually. For the ultimate tracking you need to put Joshua Bardwell in the passenger seat with an FPV quad. Then you'll have awesome tracking at highway speeds! :)
Thinking about purchasing one and was wondering if you have tested the Pro4 over water. I have a TH-cam fishing content channel and was thinking about using one to get some on the water B footage. Enjoy your videos.
Subscribed! Just flew my mini4pro for the first time. Like it so far but haven't tried the tracking feature yet. When is new firmware planned to improve this weakness?
Electrical wires, power poles and tree trunks are like magnets for drones.
I'm surprised I never hear anybody else talk about it.
Maybe try to wear obvious bright clothes , like contrasting orange vest or something that really stands out in nature
That last crash at the end, I think you had put the avoidance into 'Nifty'? In nifty, the avoidance is a bit optimistic... it takes more risk than usual... hence the warning. I see the avoidance like a rev limiter in a car... the rev limiter is not to notify you when to change gears, it is there to stop you accidentally busting your motor. Many (especially young) drivers seem to change gears about 2 seconds after they hit the rev limiter haha. I reckon the stage we are at with obstacle avoidance, is not yet 'full autonomy'... it is there so if you are about to fly into something, it will warn you at least, then try to get around whatever is in the way... but we still need to be watching. I don't believe we can rely on avoidance at speed in tight places just yet... I am sure DJI are working on it.
Am not a subscriber yet. But I would like to know which one would you recommend me in between the air 2s and the mini 3 pro.
Hey, there is a new firmware 01.00.0300. Any idea if it became better?
Great thorough demonstration. 👍🏾
This was a good review ❤
Any updates on this? Did you eventually find it?
I really enjoy and trust your videos my friend real world work
Thanks! Wouldn't do it any other way. Keep it real 🍻