Seiko 6309 Stripdown 5000 giveaway - Too Far Gone??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2019
- Hello, In this video I will stripdown the Seiko 6309 movement for the 5000 sub giveaway watch. Its the first look inside so the question is, Too far gone??? I am hoping you the viewer will leave comments below with your opinions on if you think this is salvageable, whether I have the ability to get this running again?
One more question is do you want to see a video on how I clean these parts?
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Very very bad
A rebuild and cleaning video would be really helpful, specially bc I just bought a really dirty Seiko 5 7009a
Kevin Lopez rest assured a cleaning video has now been shot and will be edited over the next few days. Stay tuned and thank you for watching !
Great movement Kevin, I have a few and love them.
Definitely! Seeing the full cleaning process on this would be awesome.
Very interesting! Nice to see part of the process when my 2 LordMatics was serviced recently, I would love to see the cleaning process before being put back together
Agreed, I would be interested in the cleaning process as well. Thanks!
Definitely want to see a cleaning video and an attempt to rebuilt this movement. To have a go at least would seem a lot more respecting to this vintage watch compared to a simple swap that may feel like a hollow victory. Great video.
TheMistakenly thanks for your comment. Cleaning video on the way very soon.
I was always going to attempt the restoration of this watch 😉😂
@@MyRetroWatches I knew you were, but you asked us despite knowing what our answer was always going to be 😅
Great video. I can't wait to see the final product.
I always appreciate a full process video... strip down, cleaning, reassembly & oiling, timegrapher analysis, trouble shooting and fine tuning. However that is a lot of work to document. Thank you for all the knowledge you share!
abitoffcenter thanks I will be showing as much as I can really but your right it’s much more time consuming trying to video too but this one is worth documenting for the winner but also for you guys who take an interest too.
Cleaning video coming in a few days , another long one 40min ...
Yes, you should definitely give it a go.
I'll be waiting for the cleaning video.
Looking forward to the cleaning video. Will be interesting to see what parts are salvageable, and what will need replaced. The 6309 movements are quite a workhorse. Another great video thanks for posting.
Louis Cipolla Jr. thanks cleaning video in editing ... parts wise I need the pallet fork and I noticed last night also the centre wheel as it’s missing a bunch of teeth.
I love watching you breathing new life into old watches. I’m jealous of your steady hands, I’d be shaking like a leaf under that much magnification. Please finish the Seiko!
Jason Warwick thank you for commenting. You get so used to tweezers after a while that it just becomes natural .
More videos on this one coming very soon!
Go for it MIke. Cleaning video as well please. Love this type of stuff. You doing a great job.
Yes please, would like to see a disassembly and cleaning video of this watch.
Cheers
Willy
There is nothing more satisfying than bringing a vintage watch back from the graveyard. Regardless of value, preserving a bit of history is always a good thing. Thank you for making an effort to save this watch.
Couldn't agree more! thanks for commenting
Yes please, make it from start to finish! Anything made with great craftmanship is wprrh of seeing 🙏
Starting to restore watches on my own. Have to learn a lot, but your videos are just awesome!!
Thank you very much. Good luck in your projects.
Hope it gets going as soon as possible! Good luck!
Clean and rebuild would be great. Can’t wait to see how that dial cleans up
I like to see a cleaning and rebuild video!
Greetings from the Netherlands!
mark pronk thank you for watching , cleaning video coming very soon.
cannot wait to see the finished results
Cool looking watch enerds, woold be great see a noather watch revived. I like seeing cool old wathes working, something about them are so interesthing and familiar.
Hello. It would be glad to see all the rebuild of that vintage Seiko. Cheers!
This whole series is available here in this playlist. thank you.th-cam.com/play/PL1QqBaAlwtP4MdwxmxiYgiVXKuW-Z124g.html
You will bring it back to life!!!! You got it!!!!
Great project like watching
Really enjoying this, keep going ..
I’ve been looking forward to this video since I saw the picture about a week ago!
theslushygoldfish haha, thanks . Stay tuned more to come very soon.
Hi i enjoyed the video,hope you got enough sun in Crete.WAITING THE CLEANUP VIDEO.HAVE A NICE EVENING
Chris Panagopoulos Crete was lovely , perfect weather . Now home to 15 c and wet....
cleaning video coming very soon!
Restoring that is well within your skills Michael, looking forward to the rebuild video 💪
Turlough Connolly thanks mate
I could not wait for the strip down! 😃
This has a whole series of 12 videos all completed. Look at my playlist for 5000 subs
I would honestly love this watch.
You know you will have to follow this through MB! Anyway we need to see the end result now!!😆
Ian Margetts don’t worry Ian all is in hand mate
Awesome watch.. 🤩
very good video...it would be a joy to watch a cleaning of this piece
MOGGY7912 thank you. Cleaning video coming very soon.
I'm sure this movement will tick again just fine after a good kleaning, the 6309 is a very good movement and I'm sure that you can bring it back to life again. Great video.
Ole Johan Pålsrud thanks as always sir!
Go for it Mike! , i ed say it will clean up fine. A very dirty watch for sure!😭, but a great challenge for you. You don't realise how good your video's are!, i watch a lot of other channels and your channel is by a mile...the best instructional one I have come across. Keep up the work and don't change a thing!👍. Looking forward to the clean up!. Adrian 🍀
thank you for your kind words Adrian.... not sure my videos are that good. Its just me talking to my camera in my garage alone... :-)
It's your explanation through every step, it's very throught. Works for me and thousands of others!.👍. Adrian 🍀
would love to see a re-assembly.Crikey you are good Keep it up . Tony
Anthony Lee you can but be warned it’s 12 videos long!
See this playlist th-cam.com/play/PL1QqBaAlwtP4MdwxmxiYgiVXKuW-Z124g.html
Really like the 24 hour time indications.
Perfect and useful video.
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Go for it!
It will be very interesting to see how this movement cleans up. I don’t understand how it got in such a state. Good luck with it
Steve Evans thanks , I’ve actually seen worse. I was bought in a joblot of broken watches so it will have been sitting for probably decades in a bucket somewhere...
Nice watch 👍
Looks like someone used this Seiko to shovel sand on a beach... Not sure it's salvageable but definitely would enjoy seeing you try! Curious as to how it will look after a thorough clean.
Have a go! Put it back together, and I'd love to see the cleaning process.
Dale Yurk your wish is my command!
I was never not going to restore this one. Cleaning video coming very soon.
Wish i could have a watch from you.. Watching from th philippines.. Great content dude..🧐👍👍👍
Never give up, I know you can do it. That watch is gonna be ticking again
Challenge! Clean and rebuild! Thanks for video!
will love to see a cleaning video and rebuilt.
i think this one is not far gone, only dirty, will tic again
Lovely
Continue on Mike. This looks interesting to rebuild. I would like to learn how to put back a disassembled movement. Looks and feels daunting to remember what goes where. Especially when you put parts into a cleaning bin. Do I start by practicing segment by segment? Or just go through the whole thing?
Rest assured this watch will be restored. Rebuilds at first will feel daunting but if you take lots of photos as you go you have a record . My first ever rebuild when I dismantled I would take the part off and then refit a few times just to get the feel of how it went .
I have always recommended this very 6309 movement for a beginner as they are not that difficult and parts are easy to find.
Thanks for your support
would love to have a good watch.. i have always wanted a watch which has jewels in it....good work..
I hope you will give this little Seiko a second chance and a cleaning video would be fun to see. You were so quick to dismiss that pallet fork, is that a part which are usually just replaced in projects like this? Anyway thanks for sharing, it's a pleasure to see you work.
john johnesn thanks for your comment. Pallet fork is a vital part so rust in the area it’s in will impede the running as it contacts the impulse Jewel . It could snag or cause drag. These are going at 5 beats per second so the tiniest amount of disruption over a period of time will effect the running.
Better to change than chance it.
go on with this watch
All neglected watches deserve a chance at a second life on a wrist. I would personally love to see the parts cleaning process.
VWLivin the whole series was filmed last year. You can see very step here.
th-cam.com/play/PL1QqBaAlwtP4MdwxmxiYgiVXKuW-Z124g.html
Hi. I think you should try to save the watch. I'm very interested on the cleaning process - methods and products. Good luck, Mike :)
carlos carvalhido thanks stay tuned cleaning video coming in a few days
I like the 24 hr dial.
It is an old Seiko. Always recoverable. And worth it.
Спасибо большое! Отличный вариант для практических занятий! И ещё ко всему отличный способ выучить английский)
Thank you.
i know that the main spring hooks on to the barrel arbor on one end but what holds the other end of the spring ? pardon my asking but i know nothing about watches
I think that it’s worth te challenge and I would like to see the cleaning process
Seeing the cleaning would be informative.
Steve W coming very soon 😉
I think that watch is wort of rebuilt. Yes cleaning would be nice to see. i can't wait to see result of your work. i only hope that i win that giveaway.
jouni karjalainen thank you, stay tuned for more videos on this one and good luck
There were bugs living in it oh my
Challenging movement to bring back. How worn was the lower mainspring arbor port? Would love to see the inside of the mainspring barrel. Keep going. A few rusted parts to replace but appears salvageable. You should try out some rust removal solutions WD40 and see if the parts like the pallet can be salvaged. Would be cool to salvage and clean all the rusted parts and make this watch go again.
Supercruze I will be cracking open the barrel in the cleaning video. I have asked a leading question in the video deliberately to promote subscribers engagement 😉. For a mucky watch like this the cleaning process will be long but I will start shooting tonight.
New my mate Vince and my retro watches on the same day... Good day 🥰
Philops wow thanks . Vince channel is great.
I too would love to see a cleaning video, maybe one that doesn't require a super expensive setup as I do all my watch stuff on the kitchen worksurface or at my computer desk and I want to move deeper into actual servicing side of watches esp those that use the Vostok 2409 as I seem to have acquired a few of them now. I will only ever be an amateur but some of these wind up movements aren't hard to fix if you are mechanically and precision minded, the only down I have at the mo is second hands, I totally suck at second hands arrgh.
Ian Watson thanks. I started like that too on the dining table. It’s only as I got more into it that I created a space in my garage ( yes really!) as it’s part of the house it’s safe and clean.
Cleaning video coming , I do have a video on how to clean parts at home so search my videos for that one too.
I have every faith 👍😁
Great
You should try to repair that watch and I am looking forward to a cleaning and rebuilding video and as always another great video Michael ⌚
Richard Hudson thank you. I was always going to restore this 😉😂. Cleaning video coming very soon.
@@MyRetroWatches you're very welcome and thank you I am looking forward to the next video Michael ⌚
The worse it is, the greater the satisfaction at the end!
It makes me wonder what happened in the life of that watch to get that dirty...
I'd like to see a cleaning video too.
Yeeesh, call hazmat 😳
The total rebuild . One would need two of three of these to get one?
I am hoping not. certainly a few parts from a donor (I have plenty of scrap 6309s)
Do it, you can save it!
Dude, you've got to figure out a way to keep your fingers out of the way!
Mike Rindfleisch easier said than done ...
Never seen a movement in such a poor state. You might have to replace a lot of parts, but I am very curious now. Will it run again? Thanks so far!
Joop Plankman thank you for watching. This series was finished last year so you can watch all of the videos to see how I get on and the finished result at the end.
th-cam.com/play/PL1QqBaAlwtP4MdwxmxiYgiVXKuW-Z124g.html
Go for it Mike, I like your videos but a better camera angle would benefit your video's and make it easier to see the intricate part's being removed. Cheers
Bill A thanks Bill. Camera angle is so difficult to be honest as you need it pretty close to the watch to keep the resolution. I have been thinking of a B roll which I am actually looking into but means considerable more time editing . I’ve always felt that over the top looking down was the best angle but true when unscrewing you get a great shot of my fingers!
What is the difference between rodico(spelling?) and blu tac? Can you use blu tac?
moleman1961 blue tac is too tacky / sticky. This basically the difference. Rodico normal is green and is the least tacky one , I use this one on dials etc. They also have a premium which is grey , this is a bit stickier and is good for picking up parts with.
What you don’t want is any residue left behind.
I have no doubt you can fix it.
It ain't to far gone, i've seen seikos in worst state and with a little bit love and with some work they ended up running again. Seiko movements are workhorses.
I have no doubt that with your skills, that watch is gonna be as good as new 😉
Diego David Reyes thank you sir. Yes I’ve seen worse, take a look at my Rat watch video. That watch was in a right mess.
Beauty of Seiko simple yet robust design.
I’m confident this will be running again soon.
A cleaning, rebuilding, full service video would make for a bonzer day
Bonzer Wolf thanks. Like my 1000 sub giveaway ( see the Seiko 7025 playlist). I will film as many steps as possible , cleaning , rebuild , timing and then all the casework
Call Seco love the vintage pieces
Hiya and I bring you a question being a mechanical minded type.I have an old seiko 7009 powered watch that no longer works but the balance wheel is a lot smaller than a Chinese unknown movement watch I have that equally doesn't run but they both ran at 6bps. Are Seiko's poor amplitude due to having such light mass balance ,s? Surely they lack momentum? Just a thought for nothing? Good content. Cheers,Len.
Glenn Powell interesting question and one I don’t really know the answer to. The 7### balance is much smaller than the 6### but on both series you can expect the same amplitude so I theorise size is not the riding factor. Possibly mainspring power. The pallet fork holds all the power on the train by the mainspring so you would assume less power less amplitude. Hair spring will also have resistance in it.
These are just my thoughts but you definitely ask a very good and interesting question so hopefully someone else might also comment on this here.
@@MyRetroWatches Thank you for your thoughts.You raise a good point on the mainspring? There are a lot of mechanical principle, s running at any one time I guess? Interesting stuff.Cheers,Len.
one word a CHALLENGE
John Pinner indeed!
Maybe you could redo that inner bezel in superlume? 😃
I think that would look cool. Less original, but perhaps compatible with the original look? 😕
I know nothing about fixing watches, but have collected automatic and manual winding watches for the past 20 years since about age 18 or 19. Have sold many due to financial hardships, job loss, and other stuff over the years, and currently don't have an overly huge collection.
I have owned a Seiko 5 automatic in the past, and regrettably sold it when in my early 20's. It was unbelievably accurate, even comparable to quartz! 😲
Finally came to the conclusion in recent years, that to prevent future regret, I no longer sell any watches, no matter what.
I've always thought it would be cool to learn how to repair watches, and maybe even build my own from spare parts and stuff someday? Have tried disassembling a few broken automatic watches over the years, mainly out of curiosity to see how they look.
It usually ends in frustration, brute force, wrenching parts out with screwdrivers and hammers, and various other stages of demolition until it's satisfactorily disassembled...only to be tossed in the trash! 😂😱
I wish I hadn't chucked all those broken watches in the trash over the years. But in all fairness, some of them were Chinese replica watches anyway, that only lasted a year or two, and other cheap $100-200 automatics.
Maybe watching your channel I'll learn a few things? 😀
Very interesting to see the microscope views of the tiny parts.
Also, I'm willing to donate a sapphire crystal for this build. It's a spare part from a demolished watch a few years back, maybe it'll fit this watch you're working on? Out of all the broken watches I've torn apart/demolished, this is the only spare thing I kept, mainly because it's sapphire and just cool being scratchproof.
It looks to be about 33mm. Not sure on thickness. One edge for the surface is bevelled. Flat and not domed/convex.
Hi and thank you for your comment. its an interesting read and I am sure many others including me can relate to it. If you buy some basic tools and and old $20 seiko you will be surprised on what you might be able to achieve with the right frame of mind. I have quite a few video series on Seiko automatic movements which you could follow along to.
As for your crystal thanks but it would be unlikely to fit. this will need to be an acrylic one for this watch and possibly with a tension ring.
How to be part of giveaway ?
did i miss how to win this?
Nice work. Gift the watch to me once its ready 😉
Did you see the little bug that tried to run away out of the Seiko? You put the whole watch on him, poor little bug..
yes. I never noticed until someone said it and I had to look back at the footage!!
I like how you cut to the microscope to show us in close-up, you must spend just as much time editing these vids.
Thanks.
Gary Cargill thank you. Yes the editing can take quite a while as the videos are also stored on two devices for filming on bench and scope. All worth it though . The rebuild video I uploaded a few days ago took two days to edit (on and off of course)
Not far enough!
I'd say it's too far gone. But I did enjoy the vid 👍
Cornish Watch Reviews I hope not and although it looks rough stay tuned and I might surprise you... thanks
@@MyRetroWatches I'm looking forward to seeing how you get on 👍
I can use a watch.
Disabled and not a lot of money
Please, can I send you a really old seiko watch for restoration!? I think my one is even harder to restourate than that one in the video!!!!
3:28 at around 11 o'clock... You can see the "bugger" responsible for all the dusty stuff on the dial... He is still walking around at this time...
SquillyMon yep. This watch came with pets. I never noticed it until people started to comment.
@@MyRetroWatches No worries, you were busy working...I was busy staring. Nice job btw
Hi Mike! I think this watch deserves a good cleaning, maybe you'll need to replace some parts like the pallet fork, I do not know, but I'm sure it will run again. I'd love to see the cleaning process of course, and every little detail as for example how you install a new crystal.
I've cleaned a dial recently using rodico first and with a little help of our friends at WristSushi, here it is if you want to take a look at it:
wristsushi.proboards.com/thread/19589/cleaning-dial
Your dial and case are really beautiful, I'll look awsome when cleaned.
Agustin Aguilar thank you for your comment. Cleaning video is in production ! So I will cover as much as I can.
Love your dial work and I will try the q tip & spit trick !
The movement is really destroyed but you will fix it
When will be giveaway winner declared
:)
Who's the lucky winner ?
Valmont A well there are 12 videos (from memory) in this series last one being the winner.
I take you all on the journey and show each step of the restoration .
Take a look at my 5000sub giveaway playlist
3:40 a bug came out of that watch!
ilfordino - Ford Fiesta Tutorials I would not be surprised although I can’t see it.