The cheap copy that made a company great. Vintage restoration of Seiko's most important watch!
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- Did Seiko clone a Swiss movement? I believe this watch was a turning point in Seiko's history. Join me on this journey through Seiko's history as we take a look at the repair and restoration of this 1950's Seiko unique.
I've included the making of a very nice ostrich leg strap in this video, handmade of course. Let me know what you think about this and Seiko in general. I'm a relative newbie to Seiko, so this was an interesting one for me.
#vintagewatches #WatchRestoration #watchrepair #vintagewatch
#seiko
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The story of Seiko began in 1881, when a 21 year old entrepreneur, Kintaro Hattori, opened a shop selling and repairing watches and clocks in central Tokyo.
Today, after more than 130 years of innovation, Kintaro Hattori’s company is still dedicated to the perfection that the founder always strove to achieve.
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Oil used
Light oil (escape wheel/third wheel/fourth wheel/balance pivots): Moebius 9010
Heavy oil (centre wheel/barrel arbor/barrel/motion work): Moebius HP 1300 or Moebius D5
Pallet oil: Moebius 941/2 and Moebius 9415 pallet grease (for fast beating watches over 19,800bph)
Mainspring: Moebius 8200 grease
Keyless work and upper crown wheel: Moebius 8301 grease
Cleaning agents
Elma - WF Pro Watch Cleaning
Elma Suprol Pro
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00:00 Introduction and History
00:30 Disassembling the Watch Movement
07:40 Cleaning the Watch Parts Thoroughly
11:02 Crafting the Watch Strap
12:20 Fixing a Cheap Knife
15:30 Back to the Strap
15:52 Reassembling and Oiling the Movement
18:39 Winding the Mainspring: Left-Handed Spring, Right-Handed Winders!
34:07 Reassembling and Oiling the Watch
51:22 Tick Tock: Does the Watch Run?
56:31 Revealing the Results and Showcasing the Watch on Wrist - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
My wife bought me an automatic Seiko Seahorse in stainless steel for my birthday in 1966. I had a friend who was a watchmaker and who served his apprenticeship in Switzerland before the war. I proudly showed him my new watch and he asked if he could open it to see the movement. He was very impressed with the quality of it and said “the Swiss should be worried about this standard of work.” I still wear this watch 57 years later and its accuracy is amazing. Many thanks for your video. I like your style of presentation.
Thank you. The Seiko's from the 60s where great watches and your friend was right. Seiko was pretty much responsible for the fall of the Swiss watch industry in the 70s. My wife game me a pair of socks! I'll have to have a word!
@@Saving-Timeahaa “socks” 😂
This is a great story! ❤it.
@@TheDjcarlos67 Socks for when wife is gone for a while ;)
@@coffeepot3123🤮
As a dude who is learning English, I really like when you, content makers, talk a lot. Because it helps me practice my English, and I like histories.
You’re on the right path. If you’re having fun, you’ll learn better
Nice work, specially in the strap.
Thanks 👍
The strap making is the USP of this channel. I would like to see more.
More on the way hopefully you will enjoy :)
"I'm not sure I ordered the serated one." :D :D :D - brilliant.
Glad you liked it :)
I love that ostrich skin pattern. I have never seen that before. Thanks for sharing
Ostrich is great leather just make sure if you are buying an ostrich leg strap you buy it from a reputable source the pattern and quality of ostrich is extremity different from piece to piece and it can get expensive. I love it though. Glad you enjoyed the video
great tips on the cutting the tips of the straps. it helps big time. thank you
Brilliant sawing and lovely strap
Thank you I will let the misses know you liked it!
I love Seiko watches. Have a Grand Seiko. Bought aTudor and aTissot. But what really turned my crank and changed my watch world was an Oceanus ocw s100 1ajf, outstanding technology.
The Oceanus seems like a fantastic watch. I don't have much experience with it, but I do love my workshop g-shock. I hope you found the video interesting
Your strap making is awesome. I did enjoy learning about Seiko history as well during the video. A really great video in my opinion.
Thanks, really appreciate you talking the time to let me know. Glad you liked it.
Me to!!! Love how well versed your videos are.
Looks good, i enjoyed the strap making, very smart
Glad you like it
Wristwatch Revival brought me here and I loved this vid. The strap making and history telling really compliments the other watch restoration bits. Subbed and looking forward to watching more of your stuff. 🤙🏻🖤
Welcome aboard! More to come glad you liked it
Seiko's are my choice of watches. In fact I just took off my 44 year old Seiko about an hour ago. And it still looks great and keeps very good time. It has the day/date/and alarm complications. My other Seiko's are all day/date. I just ordered, several days ago, a new Seiko 5 military style watch. I don't know why it took me so long to do that as I bought my first Seiko at a PX when I first got to Vietnam back in Jan of 1970. In fact that was a Bell-Matic/day/date.
Brilliant work, love the dry humor! =)
Glad you enjoyed it!
5 stars * * * * * to mrs Saving Time for the professional stitching work !
She saw this comment and we now no doubt insist on being in every video lol thanks for the kind words
Great video and narrative. Thank you, again.
Thank you glad you enjoyed it.
Well done, making uphill ice skating look so appealing.
The strap making is incredible, what beauty!
I am a Seikoholic, the history and quality makes them special for me, from my SARB’s to my snowflake, and my 62 mas.
There is a lot to like about Seiko, I went to try on a snowflake spring drive it's an incredible dial a remarkable watch in general but that dial... Glad you enjoyed the video.
Enjoyable to watch. I watched another watch being repaired and to clean the dial plate he use a poly grip tablet in water as one would false teeth. Dial came out very clean. I might suggest you look into it. Thank you for sharing. LS
Great video ! Thanks for all the history . Interesting stuff ..... For some reason I really like the look of all the clunky bridges and plates .
Also , Great looking band you made . So cool you have that talent as well ... Great stuff !!!!!
Thank you it's a cool watch. Interesting history to it.
Great to see how the straps are made. Can't wait to watch the other videos.
Thanks 👍 Appreciate the kind words
What a wonderful job! This was the first time I saw someone make a strap. It was very enlightening and your skill level is exemplary! Thank you.
I'm sure Ms Saving Time understands that your channel is first passion, then anything else. May I join your other supporters in the comments to express my gratitude for your time and effort, offering your viewers such quality content.
Thank you for the kind words I'm happy you liked it.
Wonderful very informative video. Really nice camera, lighting and narrative. I have several Seiko watches, the oldest is a 7005, made in 1971. I purchased it while serving in the USAF in Okinawa. Quite a beautiful watch, with a two tone face. It runs great and I recently had it professionally serviced. All my Drinks keep great time and a pleasure to wear. Thanks!
The 70s stuff is great really nice watches going to be giving them a look myself at some point. Thanks for the kind words
love Seiko. I own several. Together they are worth thousands of dollars U.S. Really enjoyed this video. Only a TRULY competent person will admit fault, the rest of the folks assign BLAME! Looking forward to more vids. Thanks, Christopher M. USA
Thanks Christopher I enjoyed taking a look at this one I hope you did also.Seiko now make some of the finest watches in the world.
Elegance, delicacy, good taste, talent, craftsmanship. What more could you want?. Congratulations because you're performing art. Thanks for you work.
And thank you for the kind words, glad you liked it.
wow, what a wonderful job on the strap! now I have to order the tools and try it for myself, haha.
as to Seikos, I really like the brand for the versatility and the reasonable prices, and as a hobby watchmaker I like their movements - they're _different_ from the Swiss ones, some things are absolutely brilliantly simple like their double pawl lever automatic works, and some are stupidly over-engineered like the keyless works in their 56xx series, but regardless of that they're always fun to work on. I also like that the technical communications are readily available and include the exploded views of the movement with the order of disassembly/reassembly and the oiling points (and that is of course also _different_ from the typical Swiss way of oiling).
I'm for sure going to be working on more Seiko's good to know the technical documentations is readily available. Good luck with the strap.
Very interesting and didactic watchmaking walkthrough of different aspects of cleaning, restoring and production stages. Many thanks, really enjoyed it.
Thank you very much!
Great and most beautiful strap and interesting movement. Thank you for sharing this.
Glad you enjoyed it, very nice of you to let me know. Thank you
Your restoration is a joy to watch. Nice work!
Thank you very much!
Much respect for your strap making skills and methodology. Very impressive.
I appreciate that! Glad you liked it.
Absolutely gorgeous watch in my opinion, and fantastic job with explaining.
This is a stunning vintage watch
Please leave the dial just as it is
Fantastic
Dial will remain untouched on this one, hope you liked the video.
Really enjoy the strap making part! Keep up the good work!
Thanks! 👍
I learned a lot viewing this content
Glad you did, thanks for watching
Very nice seiko/breitling great work on both the strap and watch
Thank you kindly!
hi, hace 40 años que uso seiko y siempre me dieron satisfacciones. impresionantes tus correas o malls de relojes. un verdadero maestro profesional, tu detallado trabajo de
restaurado limpieza y acabado del reloj merecen Bravo!!!
te envio un saludo cordial desde Argentina
Saludos desde Praga. Gracias por sus amables palabras.
A great service - thanks a lot
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching
I love your drive and passion. It shows in the details. Thank you Mr.SavingTime!
I'm still chuckling away at your wise cracks 😂...lovin the straps, video, camera work, history lesson...ALL OF IT!!
Thanks 👍 More on the way
i have really enjoyed watching your videos,what struck me most was the honesty and plain talking,great workmanship and funny comments, very good
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you
Wow! Fantastic video! I love your sense of humor 😂 I appreciate the strap making as well.
Thanks Dave glad you liked it and thanks for letting me know about the strap making part!
Bravo! A lovely video on that Sieko. Yes, please do share about straps; making, tools, tricks. I found the strap info given almost a video within a video. Warm thanks for the time given to video the process and share it. Thanks also to Mrs. Time Saver. Bests with a request the you continue.
Brilliant work.
Thanks :)
New to your channel, but I really like the extra mile you take by crafting your own straps. And what lovely straps they are! I also think your conservative approach to restoration is appropriate for these vintage pieces. Well done, sir.
Glad you think so. opinions differ on how much restoration to do but i'm always going to be in the more conservative camp most of the time
Very entertaining, 😊thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
new subscriber here! from Singapore!
Welcome!! I'd love to visit Singapore at some point. thanks for the sub!
Thank you for the lesson in watch history and repair/service. always enjoy your education classes. Be Blessed
Very welcome
Nice bling-free watch!
My preferred kind
Great restoration
Thank you much appreciated
As someone who has been a victim of the magic blue electronic smoke more than a few times in my life you’re line about that had me crying laughing……. Thank you I needed that today.
The strap! I have never seen a strap so beautifully made ❤...Lots of good wishes from India.
Thank you very much!
Super! Fantastic!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
New to your channel, and just described... will be viewing your prior videos✔️✔️👍
I really enjoy your video especially the making of the watch strap think that added a lot of interest to the watch restoration. Thank you it was most interesting.
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it
Love the work you put into that. Great strap/ leather work.
Thank you very much!
Your handmade strap is amazing. I've never seen the process before. Great work 👏
Thank you so much 😊 Glad you liked it
I appreciate your wooden tweezers!😁
Glad you like them! I liked that i did not pay 60 bux for um :D
Also really appreciated the band construction. Being the best watch is not always the most important and it would be nice to add such a historical piece to a collection.
I agree this one fits the collection quite nicely. Glad you liked it
I have recently started my own small collection and couldn’t respect myself unless Seiko and Grand Seiko wasn’t present. I really enjoyed the time you took to present the strap making, stunning result.
If I might suggest something for your collection, if you are looking for something a little different, check out the Russian cal 2209 "Vympel" mroatman.wixsite.com/watches-of-the-USSR/vympel, made in 1961. It was just 2.9 mm thick and represented a huge technical achievement. It's not expensive, and it's not flashy, but at just 6.5 mm thick from case back to crystal, it's impressive even today. A talking point, and I think every collection should have at least one Russian watch.
Thanks for the kind words.
Everytime I hear you say Mrs Saving Time I immediately think in the literal sense as opposed to your wife/better half. Too funny.
Great instruction and work!
Thank you, nice of you to say :)
I shall amend all my "overviews" to reflect that you are completely on par with any watch service on screen. Excellent and informative.Good stuff!
Thank you for the effort, this watch really needs a serious cleaning.Great show!!!
Much appreciated! It's not easy to film these, and I have great respect for everyone who does so. I try to make every video a little better than the last, and hopefully I'm getting better with practice. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for letting me know.
Love your stuff mate, awesome work on the watch and the strap. You inspired me to make my own strap for my Prim big tv automatic!
Nice one! I also own a Prim TV auto I love that watch, now i feel bad i have not made a strap for it yet lol Maybe i'll do it on the channel. Glad you liked it.
@@Saving-Time Looking forward to your next videos, I also like that you made a video featuring Prim, not much yt content with them
I made 2 videos on Prim as I live in the Czech republic i'm a fan!
@@Saving-Time I absolutely get that, I am from Slovakia and also a big fan of the brand :)
I have a vintage Seiko Sportmatic that I love. Great video. Thanks for posting. Love the band.
Thanks for watching!
I totally enjoyed your video. Making the strap brought something unique to it that I haven't seen before.👍 I think Seiko is a very good brand to start off a collection. I have a Seiko 5 and a solar chrono. Been eyeing the Grand Seiko SBGE295 Spring Drive GMT since it came out. I hope it will by my only major purchase for this year, LOL
The spring drive movement is an interesting once for sure you could do a lot worse. Thanks for the kind words
Excellent! Great insights into history of Seiko.
Many thanks! Glad you liked it
Absolutely beautiful watch mate.
Thanks an interesting one for sure!
Beautiful straps that you make and wonderful work on watches. Thank you for the video.
Glad you like them!
A very relaxing voice and narrative. Thank you!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I enjoyed every moment of your work, and I learned. I apreciate it. You have a new fan
I was just looking around and found this video. Watched it to the end. Very good work.
Awesome, thank you! Happy new year to you!
Lovely job. I don't go in much for the leather straps but you made me want one.
From looking at the surfaces and machining of that early Seiko I'm afraid it shows the typical industrial quality of the time period in Japan. They have come a long long way since then.
That they did, I'll be taking a look at some of there later work for sure. Glad you enjoyed the video
Love the strap and the watch. Looking forward to the next video.
The next one will be a collaboration with Atelier de Rhabillage Cadrans so it should be my best one yet with a bit of luck :) Glad you liked it
Seiko is very honoranble! Nice Job!
Thank you, I appreciate that
Loving the strap work!
Thanks i'll be adding it to future videos!
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Mrs. Saving Time - what a lovely name. Enjoyed the whole video. Thank you for mentioning my country - singapore. Look at one of the higher end regular seikos that use an 8L movement - save a fee grand off grand seiko. Too rich for my blood so i collect Seiko 5 watches-some of the dials and bezels on the limited edition ones are nice. You do pay a little more -sometimes up to twice a regular seiko 5 but it’s what I like 😊
My next Seiko will be a Seiko 5 baby Monaco I just like the look of um! I'll check out the 8Ls thank you for the tips!
"Trash Nugget".🤣 my vocabulary grows😂. I greatly enjoyed the video, it's nice to see strap making . Ty
Glad you enjoyed. And happy to help 🤣
my dad wore a Seiko with a blue dial. great story and nice restore. Enjoyed the wife unit sewing too.
Thank you, glad you liked it.
Awesome thanks
Welcome 😊
Enjoying your videos ,Thanks for all your great work they are a pleasure to watch
Glad you like them!
As always Nice detailed history, excellent work, Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Beautiful! 👍
Thank you very much!
I saw someone use a bed of rodico to hold the regulator and cap jewel. Then they smoosh the balance cock into it and it holds it aligned till you get the screws in. Hate the non shock settings too though. Really appreciate your humble approach to this and the strap build are awesome!
Awesome job keep up the great work.👍🏻
Thank you appreciate that
Great job 👍🏻
Thanks 😁
Well done on a great video and on a wonderful restoration of the watch. I must go back to the Gruen vid to see the strap building from the start.
Again, job well done, I enjoyed the whole process so much.
Glad you enjoyed it. Good luck if you decide to give strap making a go and if not i'll be adding more in future videos if you simply enjoy the process
Hola,i enjoy plenty watching like you work is amazing the result,good job.
Hola, glad you enjoyed the video.
Beautiful restore, your making of the band was very impressive. I’ve been wanting to try making one. Thanks for the great video.
Thank you and good luck with your strap making efforts.
Great job. Úžasné :D
Děkuji ;) Glad you liked it
Great video mate, you can tell the misses i said so lol
I will lol over and over again! Thanks, glad you liked it.
Really enjoyed the video, especially the strap making. Brings back fond memories of the two Seikomatics my father gave me.
Also, I've been thinking about getting a new strap for my father's Glycene Airman -- something in exotic skin with a deployant clasp -- and your video has convinced me.
A good strap really does make the watch, IMO. Generational watches deserve the best treatment, as they are the best type of watch. All the best - David
Loved this video and watching you make a strap I learned so much from it please keep up the fantastic work
Glad you enjoyed it! More on the way I might include a bit of dial making at some point.
@@Saving-Time I think that's a fantastic idea as that's something I've never seen before I will look forward to seeing a video on dial making
This was really awesome!!! I've been dabbling with watch making for a few years now, you have given me a few ideas and some insensitive to check out a whole new part of watch making I wouldn't have even thought of. Thank you you have gained at least one new subscriber, please keep doing the handmade watch bands.
Great to hear! I wish you all the luck with it. Thanks for the kind words
I enjoy this in-depth restoration. I never knew Seiko used cloned Swiss movements in their watches. It makes perfect sense, pre Daini and Suwa days. I've also never seen a strap being made either. Very interesting. Thanks for the video.
You are welcome, and Seiko only did it for a few years after the war. Needs must i guess :)
Very good video
Young boy . good work .
Thank you sir glad you liked it.
I came for the watches and stayed for the straps 🤩
Glad you liked it!
Nice watch, watch- and strapmaking! :) That movement looks crude, but I see it was adjusted in three positions. Now, that number 7, I made a count of 7 jewels, but there might be one more on the balance staff. I suppose they made it in more versions and that number was internal so workers knew which set of parts to use.
Yup that could be it. The movement was crude but sort of understandable given the circumstances. Glad you enjoyed the video.
I was in Fiji in 1968 in the town of Lautoka on the west of the main island of Viti Levu inside a jewellery shop, run by an Indian (50% of the population were Indian, brought in by the British to work the canefields, a story worthy of attention but off the beaten track here) and Seiko watches were all the rage, everybody had one, including me. I had actually bought one at the time for about 20 Fijian dollars when an American came in and paid F$200 for the exact same watch, no questions asked.
I'd love to visit Fiji just not in the cards in the near future sadly
Nice work and great strap making skills!
Thank you very much!