League vs DOTA 2 (FINAL CONCLUSION)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2023
  • League vs DOTA is a debate as old as time itself. However, even though that's the case, I can rarely ever find a good analytical discussion about League of Legends vs DOTA 2 on TH-cam, so I decided to sacrifice myself as tribute to the angry fanboys to make this video myself. Enjoy!
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  • @VzZzZz627
    @VzZzZz627 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    Trashtalk
    In League: it will hurt your feelings and maybe some trash talk towards family
    In Dota: even your ancestral dinosaur can't escape

    • @hsidgishsj5433
      @hsidgishsj5433 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      then go play in league of legends sea server, specifically ph server then you will learn true pain

    • @Kk-ew7ji
      @Kk-ew7ji 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@hsidgishsj5433nah its much harder to play dota in sea as a sea player myself good luck encountering us in your pubs cause we can also talk in mics btw HAHAHAHAHAHA

    • @dirky1185
      @dirky1185 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      isnt that why a lot of dota pros went over to sea to practice in solo queue or am i out of the loop@@Kk-ew7ji

    • @lokikokoko5833
      @lokikokoko5833 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Im actualy the one of the guy who insulting their ancestor. Always insult a teammate who farm all day instead fighting. I tell them his peasant bloodline so strong he just like farming like his ancestor back in the old day

    • @eXeZable
      @eXeZable 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      you have no idea how many times i send links of mental hospices to my allies in dota

  • @takodachikujo1782
    @takodachikujo1782 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +161

    100h dota mean absolute nothing lmao

    • @FemalemiIker
      @FemalemiIker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      i got 100 hours every month😂

    • @ghostdivision6877
      @ghostdivision6877 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Depends how you spend them, most dota players spent 100 h back in 2012

    • @docilino
      @docilino 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I get it every 2 weeks

    • @MC-tl5yq
      @MC-tl5yq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I get 100h every day

    • @BLUEPELICAN234
      @BLUEPELICAN234 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Everyone knows your first 1k hours in dota is just the tutorial

  • @Ivan-xg1hx
    @Ivan-xg1hx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    As someone with over 10.000 hours of Dota, I would suggest newcomers to play LoL if you are looking for fun. Dota actually gave me stress and anxiety. To make things worse, once you pass the 1000 hours milestone on Dota, you simply cannot quit as it is too addictive.

    • @kenjibendanillo
      @kenjibendanillo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      dota says finish your game or never play again....

    • @BLUEPELICAN234
      @BLUEPELICAN234 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I have 7k hours in dota and I switched to league and now have about 500 hours in league and all I can say is both games are pure cancer but at least in league the games are over quicker and it’s not as addictive
      I have years that have just disappeared from playing dota…it’s such a habit because the games last around an hour with draft. I’m also not as addicted to league…dota just feels like such a stronger addiction, league I’ll play a few games then actually play other games…dota is just crack cocaine in digital form

    • @bjnazerigaming8302
      @bjnazerigaming8302 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      but dota unlock all hero
      u can try all hero in first day or in ur first month

    • @bullettime1116
      @bullettime1116 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bjnazerigaming8302you can try heros in a weekly rotatiom on lol, also you can unlock them all too. And you dont need all kf them either

    • @Gdg195
      @Gdg195 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      quick says what is the most hated item in dota? if u cant answer it you are fake as fuck with that number@@BLUEPELICAN234

  • @nenram.5786
    @nenram.5786 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    You are right. As a 40 year old Dota 1 veteran, I thought I wouldn't be able to go back to the game because of work, personal life and the amount of new stuffs added to the game. I felt weak and incompetent everytime I play the game these past few years. Even on normal casual mode the skill ceiling of players were really high and I thought that was it for me. It came to me that maybe the time to quit the game was emminent, although, I still watch pro scenes every year. Then, I recently went back and I am loving the game once again. I know, in my age, there's just so much I can do and I'm not dreaming to be a high skilled player but the passion was once again reignited in me. I even regretted not being able to buy last year battlepass and went on missing all the good stuffs they have. I wish dota 2 would continue to be great even if the player base isn't as what it used to be so that players like me can still go back and enjoy and perhaps have fun with the game.

  • @prettyshortshorts
    @prettyshortshorts 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Regarding the "DOTA has soul" point, the reason is that DOTA 2 is the standalone remaster of the DOTA custom map in WC3. DOTA 1 wasn't created for profit, but for FUN:
    - hey, i want a space cow that can run at you from anywhere
    - cool beans, how do we name it?
    - so there is this Finnish metal band

  • @Realsupergingerman
    @Realsupergingerman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I have 2k hour on both League and DOTA 2.
    For me, people can troll much harder in DOTA 2 because they can drop enemy divine rapier, gem. They also can pick heroes like Tiny and they start to throw you to the enemy. Also they can buy all the wards, sentry, dust and smoke so you team can't use it.
    While in League I do admit I encounter more toxic people in the game. But it can be muted. But I do admit lately I found more and more player that use script in League.
    Tldr both game is cancer and its better to find something else to play. Only play the game if you have a squad.

    • @kurrwa
      @kurrwa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      People in league actually care more about winning, in dota there is too much trolls toxic people, people who don’t even want to play their role. In lol people at least try -.- actually lol community is much better than dota community

    • @azmalguthek4502
      @azmalguthek4502 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kurrwa you are out of your mother fucking mind, at least as far as the NA server on League is concerned. Almost nobody cares about winning, if they did they would actually put in effort to not be dog shit or not soft int.

    • @ragnarokvein1941
      @ragnarokvein1941 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@kurrwa you must be drunk. We aren’t spamming to give up the match every 5 minutes in Dota.

    • @mahatmasloth6543
      @mahatmasloth6543 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Very uncommon, also dota has a really good reporting system and behavior scoring system to help mitigate such behavior

    • @ufuk5872
      @ufuk5872 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@kurrwa Bruh mid want to surrender as soon as possible because he didnt met his quotas or else he feed.

  • @SweetMangoLife
    @SweetMangoLife 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The best is the end: "Dota 2 is for 40s years old men who drink vodka" I loved it 🤣

  • @Denden-mx9gl
    @Denden-mx9gl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    For me, League is really fun to play at first then it gets stale. Unlike in dota when you win it feels like you just won the presidential election. Dota also has more soul than league.

  • @RougaSF
    @RougaSF 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Absolutely great video, very respectful expression of opinion and a good overview with as little bias as possible. The ending really got me 😄

  • @robertoprimanova3246
    @robertoprimanova3246 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    i have played league for 4 years i can improve my ranks quite fast the stuck moments is usually takes only 5 months but in dota 2 you can stuck for years i have met ppl who played 6 years of dota and still on herald

    • @aiskrimgoreng
      @aiskrimgoreng 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      People like that usually need to boost their gameplay by playing with better player or can have a couch to learn with. Once you have the knowledge, trust me it is very rewarding to play.

    • @FemalemiIker
      @FemalemiIker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      its because you have to be smart. its called trench. trench is the matrix where you play 100 games and you win 50 and lose 50. you have to master the skills to win 60 and lose 40 and even better. thats called escaping the trench. people who can't improve, they can't escape the trench.

    • @spyfire242
      @spyfire242 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      To climb in Dota 2 you also need to get better at working with your team mates because individual skill can only take you so far in a game about macro level strategy, grinding games doesn't make you better at talking and communicating with other people.

    • @kenjibendanillo
      @kenjibendanillo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      herald here been playing dota since i was 16 now im 22 now im guardian freaking game i still can't understand their ranking system..... and btw i also played lol both in pc and mobile and i got rank emerald in two to three month and don't get me wrong lol is hard especially when mastering the turn-rate..

    • @byakuran02
      @byakuran02 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      6years of herald? KEKW

  • @TheRiquelmeONE
    @TheRiquelmeONE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I'd like to imagine HoN being Futsal in this analogy

    • @joshuamoore2341
      @joshuamoore2341 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I prefer HoN but good analogy.

    • @abogmus8904
      @abogmus8904 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i hate myself for discovering HoN too late. there are still private servers running but it's just not the same...

    • @joshuamoore2341
      @joshuamoore2341 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@abogmus8904 I've seen I but yeah a shadow of it's former self.

    • @cardozobalderramaisrael3958
      @cardozobalderramaisrael3958 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@abogmus8904wym is not the same EU servers are more alive than b4 shutting down official servers

  • @linuxblacksarena
    @linuxblacksarena 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Here's my take on what the biggest difference between League and DOTA 2 is:
    Faker hasn't won the final game of Worlds using a carry Yuumi.

    • @LarryLongBalls911
      @LarryLongBalls911 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      nice reference to ana io carry

    • @gambaru55
      @gambaru55 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yes and it never will unless riot decide to increase supp damage by big number. only by then faker can use it to carry the game.

    • @cloudchaser21
      @cloudchaser21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Isnt Faker a midlaner and not ADC

    • @user-ir6pg9iy2k
      @user-ir6pg9iy2k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ye but yuumi is cancer brain damaged support, while IO is highly versatile here with bit skill expression possibility. your analogy is bad. Also, league esports is dying, it used to be amazing, not it is a sellout. I miss old league, it had enormous potential, new league is worse than dota

    • @linuxblacksarena
      @linuxblacksarena 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-ir6pg9iy2k thanks for explaining my joke for me

  • @jeremiahtorrevillas4396
    @jeremiahtorrevillas4396 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Didn't lol removed the allfhat and voicecom?

  • @HeavensBane53
    @HeavensBane53 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Your reasons for preferring dota are pretty damn similar to my own. I put a lot of time into league once, but that was almost a decade ago, and every time I try and go back I end up just asking myself "Why the hell am I playing this and not dota?" and quit again soon after.
    I am going to push back a bit on the idea that the game's skill ceilings are similar. Dota just has vastly more things to become skilled in than league while also having pretty much area of skill that league does as well. Even in mechanics, the area league puts more focus on, I wouldn't even say the skill ceiling is notably higher than in dota. Dota also has plenty of mechanically demanding heroes, some which are more demanding than anything league has, and more importantly lane mechanics in dota are so much deeper than in league. I don't think teamfights are mechanically less demanding either. So you have pretty similar mechanical skill ceilings, only to add on all the additional mechanics and strategic complexity dota has over league on top of that ceiling. Frankly, I think they appear similar because top tier league players are just closer to reaching the ceiling and dota players are. I think this is also part of why pro league can feel so stale: because there's just not much left to improve on for top pros not a whole lot of innovation happens, and upsets are rare because the lower strategic complexity means the higher mechanically skilled team will almost always win. Well, that and Riot being apparently allergic to innovation and nerfing it into the ground whenever it happens, like what they did to roaming Janna top.
    Also idk if I'd say cheating is much of a problem in dota. In all my thousands of hours in the game there's only one game where I encountered someone who was very clearly cheating enough to where it meaningfully impacted the game.

  • @Its_me_Stolas
    @Its_me_Stolas 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    100 hours is just enough to scratch the surface, and read the list of all mechanics. But to understand interactions... Well that takes a bit more than a 100 hours I would tell you that

  • @STARrealbtw
    @STARrealbtw 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The end bit summarized it perfectly

  • @kyoden1928
    @kyoden1928 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My main problem with league is the game feels like a hero arena type of game(battlerite) but with non sense laning phase? Whats the point lmao

  • @cloudchaser21
    @cloudchaser21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    U are so good at talking dude, I watched the whole video and I agree wholly, its pretty sad but also understandable that most people prefer playing League, because its really streamlined for the masses, its fast, u can press alot of buttons, doesnt require strict coordination and stuff, meanwhile in Dota 2, u gotta really appreciate the teamwork aspect to really enjoy it, because the way the heroes are designed, u have to have ur teams back or everything will fall apart, meanwhile in League, its fine to just stick to one champ and be good at it, u dont need to think much about synergy and all that.

  • @ragnarokvein1941
    @ragnarokvein1941 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I just so happen to be drinking vodka this very moment while drafting in Dota

  • @uresfffff222
    @uresfffff222 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is it me or you look like kuroky ???

  • @juozasjurgaitis2490
    @juozasjurgaitis2490 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I have close to 4k hours in dota and I've met only one cheater in total, no problems with cheaters, I'm sure you can get more cheaters then a single one in 4k hours in lol.

    • @FemalemiIker
      @FemalemiIker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i have almost 6k hours on dota and i agree, they don't look like they are cheating but, they have map hacks. they know when you are on roshan, and they know when you are gonna gank them. its littke details they use hacks for to not get caught cheating.

    • @Ghost-hd9wy
      @Ghost-hd9wy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FemalemiIkerhow common is this do you think?

    • @semideiapranick
      @semideiapranick 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Ghost-hd9wy Not OP, but as far as I remember, I only played against an actual possible cheater once throughout my 3000+ matches. Of course, maybe I played with a lot of other cheaters I have no idea of, but I remember getting really suspicious only once. Of course, it all depends on your rank and region.

    • @bullettime1116
      @bullettime1116 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have played since season 9 of lol and have seen maybe 3

    • @4illl52
      @4illl52 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FemalemiIker the only thing is a maphack for wards, cause rs have deafult timer, and ganks are really easy to avoid if u look at mini map a lot

  • @iordanstefan1
    @iordanstefan1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Dude, the esport scene in dota destroys any other esport scene, not only lol. The amount of prize money in dota pro scene is just obscene

    • @arsamezzati1987
      @arsamezzati1987 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      boy this comment aged well

    • @JAPSICLE
      @JAPSICLE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This year's TI prize pool is at an all-time low this year sadly

    • @kenjibendanillo
      @kenjibendanillo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JAPSICLE millions of dollars ....

    • @rises889
      @rises889 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and yet is still total of all Esport events of all other games in the last 10 years, that s how little it is 3.2MIL at this exact time I m writing, the International didn t even started :)))))))))))))))))))) @@JAPSICLE

    • @JAPSICLE
      @JAPSICLE 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rises889 I'm not shitting on TI's prize pool this year, I'm just saddened that it came crashing down unlike previous TI's. Well, it is partly due to valve not opting in to the battlepass anymore. But still, the gravity of DOTA 2 eSports is still by far the biggest out there.

  • @rxncy
    @rxncy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think you are the only person who explained it well

  • @Gatev
    @Gatev 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the ending! :D :D :D

  • @fadhilny7950
    @fadhilny7950 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice video, can you make overwatch vs overwatch 2?

    • @GlavianTV
      @GlavianTV  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Seems like a good idea! Just might 🙏

  • @rizkyadisaputra
    @rizkyadisaputra 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with you that the big barrier of Dota to aqcuire new player was the first it is device + infrastucture requirement, then its not really newbee friendly

    • @Midaspl
      @Midaspl 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still Dota tutorial for new players is way, way better than league has.

  • @chiyayainthesea6386
    @chiyayainthesea6386 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3,000k hours encountered only 3-4 cheaters. but sent a couple to the gulag in dota watch.. smurfs are kind of frustrating but valve has, or is in a way slowly fixing this problem.

  • @KitsuneFaroe
    @KitsuneFaroe 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video is amazingly well explained.
    Another thing is when you compare most objetive aspects of the games, Dota wins over League by an INSANE difference.
    Also the appeal of League is more that of a fighting game, whereas the appeal lf Dota is way more unique and faithful to the MOBA genre it is designed for.

  • @paperstars9078
    @paperstars9078 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First you should start playing what your friends play.
    In Dota all Characters are free, so you can't just buy a champion and have everyone in your group feel like their missing out. (there is a new player mode that disables some of the characters, but you can just queue the standard all pick.)
    League has a progression system which only lets you play easy characters at the start and then you purchase all the stuff.

    • @moebino2685
      @moebino2685 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "League has a progression system which only lets you play easy characters at the start and then you purchase all the stuff." league has a rotational system not an easy characters you play system

  • @brunodeleonramon6333
    @brunodeleonramon6333 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ley me tel you Vainglory is better than both

  • @rizkyadisaputra
    @rizkyadisaputra 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    dota in my opinion was lot more refined moba, it has more complex mechanic compared to LOL, and the map itself had a lot interactivity / interaction with some hero, the high-low ground vision, the day & night time, the trees functionality, the way of walking movement style in LOL and Dota2 are preaty different, in LOL looks more clunky when in DOta the walk more fluid

    • @Midaspl
      @Midaspl 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting, because many lol players actually complain about this when encountering Dota. It's called turn rates. In Dota, a character before casting a spell, or attacking, had to first turn in that direction. It's a gameplay mechanic that makes ranged characters not that OP compared to melee. In lol everything is instant and thus people complain that Dota feels 'sluggish' for them.

    • @Lastofhiskind-00
      @Lastofhiskind-00 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Midaspl league players are so used clash of clans turn rate that's why they complain about dota's turn rate.

  • @valkyriun
    @valkyriun 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Even the Pro games are better, there's more action, more epicness, more comebacks! Dota2 has better Casters aswell.

  • @0DeCa.
    @0DeCa. 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro be telling me that the game with propper tutorials has a higher barrier of entry, whereas league has a half baked tutorial that teaches u nothing of use.

  • @48Salt
    @48Salt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro never seen an invoker with 6 slot clickable items, Meepo and Arc warden.

    • @ajdndbdjbdj
      @ajdndbdjbdj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chen .....

    • @glenzzgaming7327
      @glenzzgaming7327 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ajdndbdjbdj chen playing RTS in a MOBA

  • @muhammadfauzan5126
    @muhammadfauzan5126 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I come from Mobile Legends that known as copy of LOL, and I tried to playing LOL and my thought was what's the difference between LOL and ML. They both are the same. Finally I'm trying Dota and this game has a lot to offer. But this game is so addictive ngl

  • @TokyBlind
    @TokyBlind 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Last sentences of this video ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

  • @wingzin
    @wingzin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    well i play dota 2 over 10 years and i never saw a cheater in my games

  • @VasiliyOgniov
    @VasiliyOgniov 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Dota 2 is a game for a 30-years old men, who are drinking vodka" - is probably the best quote I had heard about this game ever

    • @kenjibendanillo
      @kenjibendanillo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      dota player best quote "dota still in beta"....

    • @rises889
      @rises889 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      dota was in beta like 15 years ago :) when lol dint even existed :))))))@@kenjibendanillo

  • @ijsljr
    @ijsljr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    In Dota 2, we call players who are better than us "cheaters"

    • @pochisanchez9980
      @pochisanchez9980 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      in all games my friend, in all games

    • @ve8547
      @ve8547 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and dogs

  • @prashantrai7657
    @prashantrai7657 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I tried lol, cause almost all of ny friends play, whenever i play it feels too superficial, even their skins and sets feels too shabby
    But dota has different feel altogether, its map and ambience is what draws me in. Now, remember this is subjective but for me it is this

  • @Mi3Lie2poinT0
    @Mi3Lie2poinT0 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    idk if apples to oranges is fair. Once you experience the best of both games its clear that DoTA 2 is the better game and MoBA in every aspect. I rate there are more people that will agree with me here and I expect those that swing the other way, wont be higher than 4k mmr. Surely the only appeal that League has is the lesser learning curve.

    • @moebino2685
      @moebino2685 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      even though you and me agree on Dota 2 being the better game, there is a reason why league has way way WAY more players than Dota 2 has, most people disagree with us

    • @Mi3Lie2poinT0
      @Mi3Lie2poinT0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its easier to learn. Thats why@@moebino2685

    • @not_kode_kun
      @not_kode_kun 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@moebino2685 the reason is because it has a much lower barrier to entry and is specifically designed to appeal to the masses, which the guy in the video explained pretty thoroughly. i have thousands of hours in both games, and dota2 wins in almost every single aspect, by a long shot. player experience is objectively better, league is riddled with predatory and anti-consumer systems. if a person can stick through the very steep learning curve, they'll have a much better experience on dota 99% of the time.

    • @moebino2685
      @moebino2685 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@not_kode_kun I might agree with your opinion but the majority will disagree and say that league is better, we will always have people with different opinions so we can't really justify which game is better

    • @not_kode_kun
      @not_kode_kun 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@moebino2685 because those people haven't played dota. what your favorite game is is totally down to preference and opinion, but i think we could all arrive at a consensus on the objective quality of both games if emotions didn't get involved so frequently (especially on the dota fans' side), and if people who argued on this issue had actually played both games extensively. most league players who argue on this have barely even played dota, meanwhile most dota players who argue on this *have* played league somewhat extensively, and still chose to stay on dota. however they often miss the potential rationally sound argument they could've made, in favor of just mindlessly shitting on league

  • @gambaru55
    @gambaru55 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is either idk that the cheater cheating on my match or it so well hidden cheat. but i play 2000+ game on one account only seeing cheater twice. so many if my i look at my match is only 0,1% cheater in dota 2. while yeah i play league only for 60 match but lucky no cheater (maybe) in my match yet.

  • @jeremiahtorrevillas4396
    @jeremiahtorrevillas4396 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem I have with dota is im poor adon have pc and the game stop dropping skins like why valve reeee

  • @lucasramirezavila6638
    @lucasramirezavila6638 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    both are peak human gameplay

  • @LetsShitPost
    @LetsShitPost 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The thing with Dota is after 5k hours I don't think I've ever seen a cheater. And even if you did, cheaters are still able to lose because of the macro play as you've said... I doubt a herald with cheats will be able to get up to Legend.

    • @yamiyuki1112
      @yamiyuki1112 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah it's about your mind set
      if u can't change it, u wont get pass herald

  • @thekrakenguy6962
    @thekrakenguy6962 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can play football with just a football... I get the analogy but there have to be better ones.

  • @jefjeferson9886
    @jefjeferson9886 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    12% cheaters for dota is wild, thats statiscally at least 1 cheater in a match, thats some bs

    • @user-bc4nv5op7l
      @user-bc4nv5op7l 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      maybe skinchanger and overplus were counted

    • @LetsShitPost
      @LetsShitPost 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That number seems way too high. I have 5k hours and don't think I've ever seen a cheater lol

    • @tee_swag
      @tee_swag 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes it includes those@@user-bc4nv5op7l

    • @hugh1641
      @hugh1641 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep, I have played dota since 2013 and never ever met with cheater to this day or I must be careless enough.

    • @TheMrakic
      @TheMrakic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i have 4.5k hours in Dota 2, not playing for years now and i have never encounter cheater in any of my games

  • @thed4rknss673
    @thed4rknss673 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel the same about dota, i played league for 8 years, since 2012, i feel like dota is way more rewarding in the games, learn about itens that counter strategies, how the stats works, about farm parterns, the way that dota balance they heroes is just amazing comparing to league and i'm just playing dota for about 3 weeks now

    • @clocked0
      @clocked0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Tried playing Dota a few times and got my ass kicked in each, you being 3 weeks in and enjoying it is inspiring me to keep at it. One of these days I'll start to understand the game

    • @thed4rknss673
      @thed4rknss673 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@clocked0 I had hard times like this in the past, but i actually had to be very open minded that i'm there to learn, not clap everyone like in league. I also nerded a bit by watching BSJ fundamentals video and some replay/coach analysis, i'm still trying to apply all thing i learned so far xD, i recommend trying with a friend(preferably in the same lane), and playing turbo(for learn most heroes) for start. Just go on your own pace to no be overwhelmed and have some fun :)

  • @JunFromIT
    @JunFromIT 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can't play league on my 7year old laptop anymore though. So i disagree with league being able to play in potato pc same as dota2. I say both needs a mid tier pc specs to play it.

    • @mop6278
      @mop6278 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can literally play both with an AMD 5600g CPU or lower 😂 you're probably just broke AF 😂

    • @not_kode_kun
      @not_kode_kun 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i play dota with a 2016 i5 and 1060 ti (also from 2016). league just doesnt run on my computer at all cause they stopped Linux support

  • @smurfdesmurfis5080
    @smurfdesmurfis5080 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    best comparison is Dota = chess LoL = checkers

  • @MUHAMMADHASSAN-th2nb
    @MUHAMMADHASSAN-th2nb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro just putting this out dota dont require that many specs i used to play it on my panteum 4 xd

  • @absharma555
    @absharma555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a turbo abuser

  • @zamxam1779
    @zamxam1779 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dota is a game for 40 years olds drinking vodka… legendary!

  • @danialsyazwansuhaili2435
    @danialsyazwansuhaili2435 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love you man i suppport you! 🔥💥 Dota is true legend! Not league....💀🗿

  • @feralpas3848
    @feralpas3848 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bruh i havent had a game with cheaters in dota.

  • @xazarl3381
    @xazarl3381 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im a league player i tried dota its just so hard to get into and a lot of mechanics dont swap over and mid lane is the easiest lane to actually play for a league player in dota. You queue up for all pick takes like 5 min in league normals for starting elo would be like 10 seconds to a minute and 1 second in a party of 5 and then in dota you get dota players with 5k - 8k hours dunking on you no different from smurfs in league. Then your trying to learn how to lane get an understanding of last hitting and denying and then 3-4 people gank you and your just like ah ok playing the actual dota champions is pretty easy compared to league but understanding the actual game is like 1000X harder in dota.

    • @99temporal
      @99temporal 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you can play the "new player mode" to not get matched with veterans
      Yes, the amount of heroes you can choose is limited, but you wont get the people with a bazillion hours playing against you

    • @Lastofhiskind-00
      @Lastofhiskind-00 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Give up loser keep playing league

  • @bjnazerigaming8302
    @bjnazerigaming8302 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good about dota 2
    - free all heroes
    bad about dota 2
    - 50min+ in ranked per game less 40min is rare

  • @frosthound_8594
    @frosthound_8594 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm gonna say it
    street football (soccer for the Americans) > professional football

  • @jeps7688
    @jeps7688 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I played league Idk why all the adc are ranged? then if you pick a melee w/o mobilty I always got owned and harass to death compared to dota 2 just pick Wraith king even I got harass many times I can still win lane by pulling agro and puling side camps.

    • @anhkduc7930
      @anhkduc7930 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because league dev shut down any sight of creativity in their own game. You wanna play a champ that WE design to be support as adc? Nope you'll get banned and we'll nerf the shit out of your champ to mold them back to shape.
      It comes to a point where ban/pick in professional League scene is just meaningless, there's no strategy involved, you ban you enemy best champs and that's it. Compare to Dota 2 ban/pick is a stressful mind game with full of surprise

  • @muhammadfauzan5126
    @muhammadfauzan5126 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This guy spitting facts

  • @rickproductions9497
    @rickproductions9497 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cheating part is kinda wrong, i played both games and league had more cheaters %100, i usually play support in league and some adc players had scripts. In dota, you can see the “players point of view” and you can even see his mouse cursor second by second. Scripting players are very easy to spot in dota. In league, you cant be sure until they make something crazy. I play dota since 2013 and play lol since 2017 but i encountered at least 2 times cheating in lol. Also dota banned about 100k smurf accounts few weeks ago. I have never seen such thing in lol. Dota punishment system is better now too.

  • @-Redemption-
    @-Redemption- หลายเดือนก่อน

    Comparison of Football vs Handegg

  • @manishpradhan660
    @manishpradhan660 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dota is like a old toxic Crush or Ex Gf you never get old of. If you have the chance you always play the game no matter what the time or age. I grew up in early 2000s the golden Era of Dota 1. Therefore i always prefer dota over league.

  • @kuriosagamisou1330
    @kuriosagamisou1330 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BASED

  • @rises889
    @rises889 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Many complains cause they don t understand the meta and don t read the patch notes and changes in DOTA and say : "is broken and in Beta".. kids these days meh :) giff vodka

  • @Geraklitor
    @Geraklitor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Drink vodka and play Dotka

  • @halowize
    @halowize 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My life is stressfull but i love playing games If I play Dota 2, it will add more stress that is why I play more LOL . less stress, less technicalities, less micro, less macro in games. Less stress = more enjoyable. but If you want to be competitive and you are a stress sponge person , go play dota 2

  • @crunchyandmagnificent5646
    @crunchyandmagnificent5646 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    About the monetisation:
    Yes, champions can be unlocked in league both with RL money and with in=game money. That said, most champions require you to practice them quite a bit to be able to pilot them efficiently (Some are in fact so mechanically complex that many people play hundreds of games on them and still aren't good at piloting the champs. I'm talking Yasuos, Qiyanas, Azirs, Zoes stuff like that)
    What I'm getting at is that generally if you like a certain champion, you will inevitably accumulate enough in-game currency to buy another one while learning the one you just bought. When I started, I played toplane, then transitioned to midlane. About a year after I started, I had some easy champs for possible autofilled roles and I had all the champs I liked for my main roles. Another year later I had bought all the champs I was even remotely interested in and now, five years later, I own all the champions on my main account and I have cca. 40k in-game currency to spare with the brand new fresh off the shelf champion costing around 7000. Therefore, I can keep buying new champions when they come out for about a year without playing at all
    So yes, you won't have all the champions unlocked for a while, but I believe it helps to not get overwhelmed with the choice. You have free champs rotation every week to try out new stuff and ARAM as a fun mode, where you are randomly assigned a champ even if you don't own it. Also, not a single person I know ever bought a champion with real life money
    Both games monetise cosmetics too and I prefer the RIOT games way of doing it. Every skin has an assigned regional price assigned to it judging by its rarity. The rarest skins, of which there are about 5 in the game cost around 25$ in EU region and they usually have a gimmick with your abilities/champion changing visual effects mid-game. The tiers basically define how much work went into a certain skin with custom animations/VFX/SFX/voiceover with the lowest tier only changing the looks of the champion and nothing else
    In DOTA2 you never know how much you will spend on the skin and whether the price will stay the same in a year. A pro and a con at the same time: You buy parts of the skin separately to mix and match different skins on your hero. That's more of a taste thing though

    • @not_kode_kun
      @not_kode_kun 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      terrible takes. why are you trying to defend a company like riot?
      their monetization is insane. already the fact that 90% of the champs are locked, and that it can take years to unlock all champs without spending money, then the predatory virtual currency that always gives you just under what you need so that you always go for the bigger price package that will leave you with a bit of remaining RP that you cant really buy anything with, then the fact that you cant get a single skin for less than 10$ in most cases.
      In Dota, all the prices are decided by the community and the market. there are skins worth 3 cents, and there are skins of the highest possible rarity, immortals (which most of the time look amazing) that you can get for under a dollar. with 5 dollars, you could get really good looking sets for multiple heroes if you're smart with your money. You can also sell most skins back for real money directly to your irl bank account. not to mention the trading scene.
      The only downsides are that there are some skins with obscene pricing, too. Extremely rare skins that can go for over 1000$, and sometimes they dont even look that good, they're just expensive cause they're iconic and rare. But these are a very small minority of skins in dota. Also dota has a lot more ugly skins that nobody wants, but the amount of cheap good looking skins more than makes up for it imo. You can like what you like, but you can't defend a company like riot. they're extremely predatory and constantly fuck their players (you and i) in the ass. Valve isnt an angel but they're a much more respectable company that actually cares about their community.

    • @crunchyandmagnificent5646
      @crunchyandmagnificent5646 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @not_kode_kun well, that's exactly what I said. I prefer to know that whatever I'm buying is going to cost me a certain unchangeable amount of money. And I hate turning my MOBA game into an auction
      See? Preferences

    • @not_kode_kun
      @not_kode_kun 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@crunchyandmagnificent5646 certain unchangeable amount of money? what? why does it matter if its unchangeable if you can't even resell it? it's not like its gonna lose value, cuz it has none. and prices in league *do* change, quite often. there's always a sale on something or other. how is that any different from dota prices fluctuating slightly? i get having a preference for how the skins *look* in league, i can totally understand that, but preferring riot's system is mind boggling to me. it is objectively worse in almost every way

    • @crunchyandmagnificent5646
      @crunchyandmagnificent5646 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @not_kode_kun Like I said, I prefer to know how much a skin costs and know that it will never get more expensive, sp there's literally no fear of not buying it in time before it gets more expensive. There also aren't any crazy expensive "rare" items, unlike in the
      Valve games
      So yes, I prefer the riot monetization system because it's straightforward, it's honest and consistent about the price (as in, yes, sometimes stuff can get discounted for a while, but its price will never grow) and it's centralized, with no way to buy skins anywhere outside their system
      This is what I prefer and respect and you don't have to understand it

    • @not_kode_kun
      @not_kode_kun 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@crunchyandmagnificent5646 riot employee spotted

  • @RoqueMatusIII
    @RoqueMatusIII 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OMG the end, wtf hahahaha

  • @isagi09
    @isagi09 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dota clears League no debate just end this convo...

  • @Grego-xz9pt
    @Grego-xz9pt 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lesgue is like sports in real life dota is like chess more decicion making league is both decicion making but mostly skilled dueling oriented micro wise which in my opinion makes league more mass appeal friendly more personal level connection than dota does. Ppl get more connected to their champions in league due to the duel potential it has personality to it micro wise personal level wise it has more soul dota on the othher hand has more soul macro wise. Fir example odta has dya and night which puts emphasis on the field of vision more different characters have different vision ranges also the high ground low ground mechanic or stealing mana having to buy items for ganking so that your champion gets evelyn abilities all are macro things but personality wise personal level wise micro dueling outplays skill expression e.t.c league is superior by far

    • @KitsuneFaroe
      @KitsuneFaroe 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Micro-dueling is more a fighting game style. Dota is way more team-based and startegic, in general way more rewarding and "faithful" to the genre and map it was made for.
      In fact, while League Champions have more micro-dueling expresion in general. Dota heroes are way more unique and even their fantasy feels more unique.

    • @Grego-xz9pt
      @Grego-xz9pt 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KitsuneFaroe to say dota heros are more unique is false some just have more vision than others and different turn rates lmao both sides have their uniqueness and stories so both are unique. In terms of stratedgy and team orientation league does have that dota just has more in terms if item options with abilities and tbh alot if stuff that is really not necessary in the grand scheme of it day time night time that changes vision is so unecessary and alot of other things like high ground low ground or turnrate using items for invisibility or just alot of ither things that are unecessary league is more stable in that regard like a sport league is rapidly picked up hard to master just like soccer ir basketbakl e.t.c best described as a sport which in my opinion makes it fun and personal. Dota is fun but it just not that appealing for the mass mayority who dont need all that extra stuff and rather focus on skill expression plus have the team coordination e.t.c. complexity does not mean better. On top of it league now has a series on netflix so theres that

    • @KitsuneFaroe
      @KitsuneFaroe 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Grego-xz9pt "those things is unnecesary", "League does it more stable" that's complete bias and just preference. Most of the things you call unnecesary doesn't complicate the Game, they just feel natural while playing and they have a place shaping the game.
      This video does a really amazing work at explaining the differences between both Games that is not usually seen. Dota is more strategy-like and designed more for the Defending-base MOBA genre, unlike LoL wich is more individialistic and focuses on that micro, more like a fighting game. Both Games have both things, but they heavily focus more on those.
      It is true that League champs have more detailing in lore and their world, unlike Dota that feels more like short antologies. What I meant with unique is that heroes are not afraid to experiment or try crazy shit. Even the most samey skill behaves really different. And this is not just reflected in individial skills, but in their whole kits, gameplay and style more so than League does. That's why hero fantasies when played properly feel really strong and different from eachother.
      Dota has a Netflix series too, not even close to be as good and faithful as Arcane tho.
      I never said League has less mass appeal too.

    • @Grego-xz9pt
      @Grego-xz9pt 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KitsuneFaroe its not bias it is more stable because vision is same for everyone everyone has the same turn rate same vision range symemtrical map e.t.c so it focuses more on skill potential and individuality before moving onto macro just like real life sports. I play both games and reason league in my opinion beats dota is becsause one its time friendly two it has mass appeal and three it has skill expression. Including league has less cheaters they have strict staff who ensure no cheting happens only about 0.1 percent of cheating happens and also the fun game modes that they add to them including games that come out from it like runetera or tft e t.c its just no comparison. No one got time to pick up a game and have to spend 45 min upwards on one game dota2 is for ppl who picked up the game years ago and learned it and now with it because its what they know and got passed the learn curve however knowing both games myself i choose league anyday

    • @KitsuneFaroe
      @KitsuneFaroe 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Grego-xz9pt i can't really say much when yes, you're clearly biased towards League on things that are based on preference.
      Most people I have known that have played both games knows these differences clearly. I most of them know why Dota "beats" League on the MOBA field, even the ones that prefer playing League.

  • @ajdndbdjbdj
    @ajdndbdjbdj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wc3 is za goat

  • @Midaspl
    @Midaspl 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nobody cheats in valorant cause nobody cares about it enough xD

  • @michaeljean2593
    @michaeljean2593 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    rugby ftw

  • @imitfdx9632
    @imitfdx9632 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    w presenter

  • @Tiagocf2
    @Tiagocf2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Dota has way lower of a entry barrier from a person with no moba experience, you literally have 50 tutorials meanwhile League has 1 bad tutorial lol also there's the coach system, noob game modes, custom game modes

    • @spyfire242
      @spyfire242 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah but I suppose its a difference of having a simple game with a bad tutorial, vs a complex game with a great tutorial? Dota has a higher barrier to entry still but there is allot of resources to help you with it.

  • @jeremiahtorrevillas4396
    @jeremiahtorrevillas4396 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Dota is indeed ¥Objectivrly the harder game
    By the sheer nuanced mechanics and dota client is still in beta
    Despite it miles ahead of league shitty client

    • @fadhilny7950
      @fadhilny7950 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yes dota 2 still in beta after many patch

    • @youtubedislikebutton5767
      @youtubedislikebutton5767 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is it Dota if it's not beta ?

    • @rises889
      @rises889 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      people don t even know what beta stage is :) god help us:) stay at \LOL pls. :)

    • @rises889
      @rises889 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the complains cause they don t understand the meta and don t read the changes patch notes : )@@fadhilny7950

  • @CiroIII.
    @CiroIII. 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Summary:
    League of Legends: you need hands, you need skill.
    Dota 2: no hands, there go those who cannot fight in the Roman Coliseum of League of Legends.

    • @fhsd1998
      @fhsd1998 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He probably hasn't tried playing the most mechanically demanding heroes in DotA. Invoker, Chen, Meepo, Io, Earth Spirit are just some of the hardest heroes to master in DotA.

    • @Lastofhiskind-00
      @Lastofhiskind-00 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No hands in dota 2? Tinker, invoker, storm spirit etc joined the chat with thousands of active items.

  • @takeork9839
    @takeork9839 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7k hours dota player here

  • @undelshoot4170
    @undelshoot4170 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dota2 best LOL ist boulshit

  • @drdoofenshmirtz2763
    @drdoofenshmirtz2763 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😂

  • @asapmoa7598
    @asapmoa7598 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeebbbbbbbbbb

  • @BLUEPELICAN234
    @BLUEPELICAN234 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    100 hours in dota hahahaha
    Bro your first 1 thousand hours of dota is just the tutorial

  • @iceeeee
    @iceeeee 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The difference between Dota 2 and League is, Dota 2 players always has something to say about league, meanwhile league players dont give two f*cks about dota, league lives rent free in Dota 2's mind.

    • @Gdg195
      @Gdg195 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      so then what are you doing here kid? such a hypocrite and denial thing to say lol

    • @moebino2685
      @moebino2685 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "The difference between Dota 2 and League is, Dota 2 players always has something to say about league, meanwhile league players dont give two f*cks about dota, league lives rent free in Dota 2's mind."
      your comment makes no sense since you talking smack about dota, lmao grow up.

    • @anhkduc7930
      @anhkduc7930 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Dota players can hop into league and learn almost everything about it in ~ 100 hours. Meanwhile league players could not even understand what's going on in dota even after ~1000 hours into the game.
      Dota is just that complex, even after thousands of hours into the game you can still find new tips and tricks to try. Meanwhile league dev would just destroy any sight of creativity if it doesn't align with the monotonous game design.

    • @crunchyandmagnificent5646
      @crunchyandmagnificent5646 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@moebino2685 "You speak bad about my favourite game, so that makes you wrong"

    • @moebino2685
      @moebino2685 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@crunchyandmagnificent5646 nope you are wrong too, dota is not my favourite game

  • @ocristaocuriosobr
    @ocristaocuriosobr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    xD kkkkkkkkkkkkkk

  • @LeBlanctochally
    @LeBlanctochally 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    From what i observed, Dota2 players are so insecure, mad and jealous about League being successful, so they need to belittle and say bad things about League while also praising dota2 just to feed their egos. That just tells that their game dota2 is dying.
    Meanwhile League players doesn't care or don't even know what dota2 is.
    From what dota2 fanboys are showing, they act childish and immature for belittling other game which is more successful just to feed their ego. They say they're gigachads/superior etc it's so funny.
    True GIGACHADS are unbothered and doesn't care about the haters/inferior people that brags they're superior that literally no one gives a fuck except them.

    • @moebino2685
      @moebino2685 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I play both games and ngl your comment is the one that sounds "childish and immature"

    • @anhkduc7930
      @anhkduc7930 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Without Dota you would never have League. It's a sequel for a reason. Do you think league gameplay is superior? It's literally a cheap freaking knock off from original Dota, the dev copied all idea from Dota forum. Dota 2 players see League as inferior because it is. League player could not says otherwise because, those who have never play dota don't understand Dota to have solid argument, and those who play both always can see that Dota is superior in gameplay.

    • @imanjx2914
      @imanjx2914 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anhkduc7930 wait until you hear that people who make dota also the one who make league *Cough guinsoo

    • @anhkduc7930
      @anhkduc7930 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@imanjx2914 then it proves that league is a cheap knock-off right? Guinsoo stole idea from dota forum to make the champs.

    • @imanjx2914
      @imanjx2914 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anhkduc7930 oh i have an idea...lets create something. Thinking it wasn't good enough and bring his innovation with him to somewhere else and create a new one. Oh no people accusing me stealing my own idea because i create something else

  • @IGustiNgurahPutraArimbawa69
    @IGustiNgurahPutraArimbawa69 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    last centence is true,, dota 2 is for man 40s having wife and babies in same room

  • @kuriosagamisou1330
    @kuriosagamisou1330 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BASED