Inside The Dark Reality of The Surrogacy Industry | Ep. 11
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I used to think that surrogacy and IVF was a good thing in general, but now ... I'm not so sure. I've discovered the dark realities of this industry and it's got me thinking - is it moral?
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This WHEN I BAILOUT A GRANDMOTHER GIVING BIRTH TO HER IWN GRANDCHILD NOOOOOOO!!
Sorry originally left a comment agreeing with what you said about mental health Mrs Candice l for some reason it is gone putting this here as a test to see if it stays and then we'll put my comment up again
Yes I agree with what you said about mental health I think there's a lot we can a company as a society by helping instead of throwing them under the bus and maintenance feel like they should commit suicide there is a lot of mental health out there I see a lot of it myself I actually see a lot of it in the gym I suffer from anxiety myself from time to time and going to the gym is my outlet I tried to keep myself busy because it's not good otherwise and can definitely see that other people suffer from mental health what they are insecure a lot of the time and it's important to be careful not to slip into that
I think because I mentioned covid-19 and climate change TH-cam took my original comments off
But believe the media winding people up with these things does not help people's mental well-being in general and like you do not believe in such things and believe they are false and made up
I had infertility issues, and took clomid (3 pills out of 5) and missed a day because I had severe anxiety and headaches. Doctor said I have to restart the treatment again next month. God was intervening in my heart at the time. He reminded me of His Sovereignty. He gave me the peace that I'll be okay without kids. My husband and I decided to not pursue to have children (not even adoption). We decided to work and travel. We had peace, though we were moked and received unsolicited advices.
Through than journey, God gave me a promise.."He grants the barren woman a home, Like a joyful mother of children." Praise the Lord!
Psalms 113:9
3 yrs later God gave us our baby girl and 3 yrs later I had our second baby girl
😭♥️❤️🙌 glory to God...
Beautiful testimony 🙌 🙏🏼💖
Beautiful story of faith! 💞
This is so encouraging to hear!!!!!!! Congratulations to you!
Thank you for sharing your story!
As a Christian who was desperate to become a mother, I really struggled with IVF and surrogacy. I did what I believe in and turned to God and the Bible for help. It’s clear in Genesis 16, it’s not a good idea 😢 even though I didn’t like it I listened and obeyed. I looked into adoption and one month later conceived.
I read a mom online claiming if God didn't want ivf used he wouldn't allow her to have gotten pregnant that way. It's such a bad way to justify something. I always point to the heart God has in Scripture to care for the orphans and how many would have adopted had them simply taken that route instead of thousands and thousands of dollars towards attempting to have their own and often failing. I can't imagine the pain to not be able to conceive but I also know if that had happened i knew adoption was the only thing God would have for me.
It’s paradoxical but a woman will conceive when she is not trying. I learned about that in Early Childhood Development. For some reason, when a woman is trying hard to conceive, the stress will make the process harder. Many women conceived when they stopped trying so hard.
Amen
Hallejuah!!
Praise God for your beautiful children! His ways are best ♥️
A woman on a real housewives show admitted to throwing away multiple embryos because she wanted a boy. She and her new husband both already had kids. People don’t feel the need to accept that they aren’t owed every single thing that they want.
I thpugh gender selection was ilegal....its legal in America 😯😯??
Disturbing
That's still murder.
@Samantha Whang they wouldn't implant an embryo with a "defect" they do genetic screening
@Samantha Whang that’s very common in Europe as well ☹️ I did an article on pregnant women who have a an ultrasound to see if their baby had any defects. If they did, they would be aborted. When I shared the article with my class in college my professor was quiet and dismissed it.
To bring a child into the world without a mother intentionally is criminal
I was in a pregnancy class with a suragate. She said she finally found her purpose in life because she was never alone. It seemed like she was constantly having babies to meet some psychological need which was not healthy.
Jeez...
Scary.
More scarred than the last after every birth
if prianka chopra and nick didnt even have time in their schedules to coincive/get pregnant that is probably the reddest flag they shouldnt be bringing this child to their situation.
Hello
If you believe that excuse you’ll believe anything. The real reason for hiring surrogates which of course these celebrity women will never admit to is because they are so vain that they don’t want to gain weight and ‘ruin’ their own bodies so they pay someone else to do the pregnancy ‘part’ instead
Grotesque
She said she has infertility issues, and she is in her 40s, when issues are most likely to start to rise. What led you to believe she didn't have time to get pregnant ?
I think that what these celebrities are doing with IVF and especially surrogacy is a real moral issue. I think some of these women don't want to carry their children in fear of ruining the looks of their bodies. Science has gotten way to lenient in this field which allow's these people to almost make a mockery of marriage or a loving relationship.
Oh, precisely! They don't want to "ruin" their own bodies. 💯
Well that is how they make their money. However people do live longer today because they can afford stuff like this and becoming overweight after your pregnancy is a major health concern.
The most of watched The Handmaids Tale series
@@bloom4807 people live longer because they hire surrogates?
@@GenXfrom75 the plastics probably don’t work properly like a real body does!
It blows my mind that suicide seems to be OK in their minds. I used to be suicidal. I found Jesus and He saved me. No amount of therapy, medications, etc could help. But Jesus did.
Edit: because Jesus saved me, now I'm 28 years old. I have a wonderful, loving husband and 2 beautiful children and the life I always dreamed of. Had I been successful in my many attempts of suicide, I wouldn't have made it to 19.
God bless you! I went though the same thing around the same age and continued down that path off and on until very recently, when I finally dove into my faith. I wouldn’t be where I am today with three boys, with one more sweet boy on the way and an incredible husband ❤ I would not have made it to 17/18 had I been successful. I wouldn’t have been able to see my children, marry my spouse or get to see my kids grow.
My neighbor's friend was forced to abort her surrogacy pregnancy when the couple got pregnant a few months into the contract. She did not even have the option of keeping it, she had to abort. Her desire to be a blessing and helping another couple turned into a curse.
Awful
I was diagnosed with cancer a few weeks ago. I am going to do whatever I can to fight this disease. I would never commit suicide it’s a sin, its also very unfair to my family!!
You shall not die, but live and declare the works of the Lord! I decree the Shalom of God over you. Peace! Wholeness! Healing! Completeness! Health! Blessing!
🙏
Cancer is no longer a death sentence.
Please find natural/holisitc providers.
Even allopathic (traditional) physicians can do a great job.
Keep your life condition high!
Do everything you can to help others.
Much love and prayers to you.
I pray The Most High Our Father in Heaven wraps his healing arms around you
God be with you! ❤
Many women my age (early 30s) are freezing their eggs and encouraging me to as well. I’ve always had a gut feeling of uneasiness around it. After watching this episode and learning more about these fertility treatments in my own research, I’ve realized I am not ok with it. To me, it’s too much playing God. After the last couple years with our government trying to beat and circumvent nature with COVID, I’ve realized any “science” trying to replace the natural order of the world is not for me. God is the only orchestrator. The more we try to play God, the worse off we’ll be.
The problem is that feminists are making women believe they dont need men, they dont need relationships, dont take life too serious and sleep around when you are young, men are abusive/toxic and should be avoided or looked at with skepticism...
Women and Men need each other. Women should look for good quality men when they are younger. Women's reproductive system ages VERY fast. Dont take your youth for granted.
same goes with the environment and insisting scientists know best and "fixing" the natural changes in the world
Yeah, I agree, I never felt ok with that either.. Who knows what happens behind closed doors in the medical field, and I have learned enough to be sceptical and beginning to be cynical about how things are run, its an ice cold field, if you ask me.. not at all comforting.
sounds like you're hearing God's voice in that uneasiness.
He whispers in their ears and terrifies them with warnings. Job 33:16
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Looking at IVF from a pro-life perspective, It is wrong due to how many embryos are discarded from the process. Its rather sad we play with human life so carelessly.
With that logic no one should ever have sex. Countless sperm die before one can become attached to the egg…
I agree.
I was thinking the same thing.
Disgcarted ? That made me cringe 😬
Wow, I never thought of it that way. Thank you for bringing that up! So thankful I never had IVF. We struggled to get pregnant for 6 years and we tried everything except IVF and surrogacy. Finally we gave up and gave it to God (what we should've done in the beginning instead of trusting in doctors instead). As soon as we put out trust in God, we got pregnant 3 months later. Now we have 2 beautiful children. 😍
My post partum depression started when they wouldn’t let me sleep in the hospital the night my daughter was born. They put me in narcotic anxiety medication that I was on for years. I just recently got off of them and can’t believe they are aloud to do this to women. To new mothers! I was shamed I was bullied. It was horrific. At the hands of a hospital
Yes I agree. I get extreme depression when I am tired & sleep deprived. And then the breastfeeding struggle... I felt one a failure.
I'm so sorry that that happened to you and I hope you're doing okay now honey
Hospital birthing is usually like a woman being on a conveyor belt. Her and the baby's safety and bonding are secondary to what is easiest and fastest for the staff and what will drive up the bills.
hospital births can be a nightmare. I've had 2 emergency c sections and 1 planned c section and with every birth I was more empowered the next time and stood my ground on so many things. My last baby- a pandemic baby there were only 2 little hiccups where I had to stand my ground . Just remind yourself this is your baby!
I went through an awful situationnwith the hospital they are corrupt and at the end of the chaos CPS ended up taking my baby girl but I hired an attorney even though I was on Medicaid at the time I hustled that money together and got her back within five weeks. Thr system is corrupt and awful that is somerhing I didnt know before. Best of luck
As a mother of twins, I get irritated at how much I get asked about what Ivf clinic I used. After some research I found out that 85% of twins currently in the us are not natural and are the result of ivf. Just a comment. I found that shocking and weird.
Big fan of your work Candace love your work and love to see such a positive mother. I am a traditional wife and mother of three daughters and I just love it and find it very fulfilling.
God bless you lady!
Yes designer boy and girl twin babies are a fad in hollywood - mess with nature it will mess with you- All of these Celebrities have twin boy and girls- Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt, George Clooney has twin boy and girl, Beyoncé and Jay Z, Mariah Carey, Jennifer Lopez, Elon musk, Julia Roberts, the list goes on, it’s a fad, but those women have to be pumped full of hormones, including progesterone and all kinds of other hormones to keep the pregnancy, some use donor eggs and the women they’re getting the eggs from are pumped full of hormones as well, no one’s thinking what’s happening to these babies long term, we don’t know the long term effects of this, but many speculate it messes with the child’s sexual identify, especially if it’s a boy. First it cost you nearly 50 grand to have the kid, and then another 50 grand to change the sex of the child years later who’s a victim of Frankinscience experiments be aware! tell your friends . These fertility clinics are relatively new, no serious
Long term studies on all the hormones they’re pumping these women with. Prolonged use of birth control before a pregnancy can mess your child’s sexuality as well. The only ones they conduct are backed by the same
People selling it, god help us all!
That's weird because I just read that it was about 17% of all twin births were due to IVF. Are you sure you didn't just switch the stats around making it 85%? That seems like an outrageous ammount. I mean, 17% is still significant.
We had several losses before conceiving our twins. A labor and delivery nurse at our church spread a rumor we had used IVF. It was especially hurtful because I personally believe there is a moral issue with IVF and, while I don't shame anyone who has used it, I would never go that route myself. Our twins were conceived naturally and we were also blessed with one more two years later.
I'm glad you shared that. I was wondering that. We have A lot of Twins and our family and our reddit's genetic from the mother si was pregnant with Identical twins unfortunately I lost them at 15 weeks my daughter has a set of twin girls and they were natural but like I said it's Usually genetic I was wondering how all these Hollywood people all ended up with twins.
J Z, I think if you looked at it as because so many couples struggle with infertility they are looking to find connection. Maybe thinking g your stories are similar. Don't look at it as an irritation, try to understand that person was just trying to see if you had a similar story a chance to connect and talk about the struggles of infertility. You are certainly blessed to have conceived twins naturally, I just wish that people would try and understand why someone would ask the question as opposed to taking offense to it. I have twins and struggled with infertility and while I was so proud of actually carrying and conceiving my twin boys. My husband was scared to share that we conceived with assistance of a fertility doctor. As if there life's were worth less because I needed help using an IUI to conceived out twins. All babies are a blessing even if you need assistance conceiving. I was also so proud to share my story and struggles with other mothers that went through the struggle. I appreciate your comments and wanted to share another perspective. Hope you can understand the question differently the next time someone asks you.
I am married to a wonderful man for 6 years, and we are struggling with infertility, we have done some doctoring but never felt right with the idea of ivf. As hard as this road is, I know that the idea of having children can become an idol also, and I do not want to hold that above everything else.
I know of a few couples that managed to conceive naturally after a course of selenium xxx
I’m sorry you’re having this issue, Lisa. Best of luck 🤍
I’m currently a senior in high school and I have a lot of free time, so just listening to the DW podcasts is probably the best thing that goes through my day to day basis!
Damn, brings back memories of having so much free time because I pretty much got most of my credits other than a few classes. I hate college 😂
Back to the conversation about assisted suicide....
I struggled with a heroin/cocaine, and meth addiction for 30 years. During that time I was often in a suicidal depression and made several attempts to take my own life. If I would have had a Drs help I would be dead.
Instead I met Jesus Christ. I'm now clean and co-parenting three grandkids that I homeschool. My life has begun to change the entire direction of our family. Praise God for life in all the forms it takes. He made us to be victorious through the blood of Christ! Not victims of ourselves!
What a story! Thank you for telling it.
@@mrwiggiewoo I just need people to know that there is hope! No situation in life is worth losing your life over. I hope that you can help me spread this message to anyone suffering. Together we can do better!!!!
@@Cat-Feet I'm so sorry. That's heartbreaking.
Wonderful
Amazing❤
It's playing God. When Rubin explained how they chose the 2 strongest embryos, I took a huge step back. I was completely neutral on IVF/surrogacy before that. Then when he made the official announcement, I legitimately wept for those 2 little boys. They won't have a mother to hold them, to comfort them. A mother's voice and touch have power in young children. I can't imagine my 2 little ones without their mother, they need her in ways I nor any male could never provide.
Plenty of kids with mother and father have terrible family environments. I feel happy for those kids, they will have 2 loving parents, and are also financially stable.
As a single mom raising my two kids alone I agree. My kids don't have a father and I see every day how it effects them. That is a void I can never fill. I imagine it goes the same for a motherless home as well. Our home is filled with love but.. there is still a peice missing. I do agree with you.
And the mother their bodies will know, from being in the womb and being next to her heart, they won't get to be with.
Yes playing God. I don’t care what the other comments say. I agree with your comment
@@skurinski finances don’t mean nothing if you don’t experience a mom and dad. People around the world that didn’t have both parents would pay any amount of money to have a mom and a dad.
There is also the case of baby Gammy born via Thai surrogate to Australian parents. Gammy has a twin sister that was taken back to Australia, whilst he was left behind due to being born with down syndrome. Heart breaking to separate these siblings, they will both need extensive therapy for this trauma inflicted on them by their biological "parents"
There is more to the story. The Bio father of baby Gammy is a child sexual predator.
Ivf can be done without discarding embryos, testing them for genetics or grading them. We did it after 10 years of trying. We did limited insemination (only fertilized Joe many we would be willing to have). We did not test or grad our embryos. We ended up with 4. I miscarried the first two. The last two are 6 months old ❤
I’m glad you wrote this! I didn’t know it could be done in this way
@@katelynduncan6897 they retrieved 9 eggs. We fertilized 7 and froze the extra two eggs (not embryos) we were told it’s rare to do it that way and the clinic pushed back- but that’s what we wanted and did!
We did the same ❤
I like how you say "How do you feel about that?" instead of going straight to judgement. I think it's better for us to honestly look at the facts instead of immediately jumping to negative or even positive conclusions. We're more likely to have fruitful conversations that way.
Yeah because there’s some that are kind of in a gray area so that line works better
I can tell you what I was thinking when she asked that. "I hate it because people are shopping human beings". It's either the sex of the child or it is shopping for the perfect mother who will provide an egg. I was very offended when one couple was commenting on the potential egg mother's eyes and how big they were. Bunch of jerks in my opinion.
@@vanmoody personally I see discarding embryos as wrong however I don’t really see anything wrong with picking out a mother that you like. You kinda already do that when finding a partner, you are naturally attracted to people you feel can provide the best/healthiest children for you. Like yeah sure caring what university the mom went to is stupid but at a certain point I would say it’s okay to want to have a choice.
I'd rather she ask "what do you think about that?" Feelings are useful, but feeling without thought is like an ox without a yoke.
I personally would love her input, that’s why I clicked on her video 😝♥️
Children are a gift, not a right.
🤔🤔
I am uncomfortable with the extreme lengths people go to have a baby. Particularly when there are so many already here needing a good home.
Say that to people who could never get pregnant🙃🙃
Yeah if you can’t have them just accept it, there’s more to life
@@rekaroob2589 I am someone that struggled with infertility for 6 years. I agree with her statement. Children are a gift from God, not a right.
As an adoptee and an adoptive mom, it is hurtful and shameful that adults who claim to want a child are not selfless enough to consider parenting an already living child who needs/wants a family.
So true, I think there's something so special about adopting kids and I would definitely consider it even if I am able to have biological kids
It is not that they don't consider but even if they consider the current rules imposed to adopt a kid are hellish. In my country I know 3 family very well off who started the procedures for adoption and 3 years later they aren't close to adopting a child. Is like the State doesn't want to let people adopt kids.
@@elenabob4953 yep unfortunately the process is so long, doesn’t make sense to me when you can have biological kids right away :(
@@ItsSimplyAless plus even you can devote your whole life to an adopted child and they will go looking for their biological parents it’s instinctual
@@djk7439 And there's nothing shameful about you feeling that way. The shameful ones are the people who bring children into the world who they can't or won't support and love.
I lost a baby at birth. He stopped breathing due to hospital negligence and I needed an emergency C section. The Dr told me that he would be brain damaged permanently due to lack of oxygen. We choose to let him pass as he would have been on life support forever. ( Which isn't living) I would love to raise any child who is unwanted, but the system makes it virtuallyimpossible!!! 💜 #prolife
No it doesn’t
Ya... ok, Ms Wilson... unless you're rich, live a perfect life, or know someone. I don't want to foster. Some crack head parent coming to take their child away from me. I'm all set.
Apparently u can buy one on the India black market quite easily. Lol. Sorry I know it’s not funny but I let out my frustrations via humor.
“Designer Babies” is the term used for American babies made by surrogacy which was first mentioned in the media in the mid 1990s. The buzz picked up steam around the time Michael Jackson started to magically have children that didn’t look black at all. I’m glad your exploring this topic since it worth discussing. Look up designer babies surrogacy in America to dig further back when this really became a trend for the rich. There are articles about how you can pick the babies skin color, eye color and so much more. Design it like real life sim character.
I wish surrogacy would be only for people who can’t conceive at all based on medical conditions but instead it’s just another money making industry.
If you look into the baby trafficking that is happening you understand the depraved evil that wants to destroy children and will buy them on the black market or pay to impregnate through ivf or however to specifically do these little ones inconceivable harm. It's what nightmares are made of.
It totally goes together.
It also implies that there will be embryo trafficking.
Well, if you believe life begins at conception, and abortion of an embryo is illegal in a state, then collecting frozen embryos and discarding thousands from a fertility clinic is the same.
Exactly! No one talks about that though
Exactly!
If embryo protection was ever the mission for banning abortions we need to push this notion.
watching the new episode of The Kardashians made me think about how messed up this surrogacy thing is and for the baby to be born and given to a stranger and separated from the women that actually gave birth to it (cuz they created a relationship for 9 months) , and also conversations about " i have frozen 4 embrios 2 are boys and 2 girls,and we are going to pick the strongest one ". Having a child should be a God's will ... and imagine how the kids are gonna feel when they grow up 😕
I feel as this is all wrong i can't accept it as normal
It’s sickening and vile. But they’re all a bunch of raging vain self obsessed narcissists so its in their nature. Kim’s pregnancy ‘complications’ that she speaks of were not what she said they were, her ‘complications’ were weight gain and looking unattractive for 9 months and she couldn’t handle it and how she was critiqued in the press for her maternity clothing choices and appearance so when she wanted more so she used a surrogate.
Vylie hid away for her first pregnancy because she was afraid of being criticised in the media like Kim was and for being a teen mom. And she’ll never admit it but she froze her eggs too and chose her 2nd offsprings gender, they’ve _all_ chosen the gender of their offspring, apart from _perhaps_ kourtney with the first 3 (like I say perhaps, she may have done because she did freeze her eggs) but she’s doing ivf for her 4th so she’ll be playing god and choosing the gender for it too no doubt. I don’t believe any of them chose their first kids gender (because they knew they wanted 1 of each so there was no need to with the 1st) but after that I think they were all chosen (apart from kourtney, jury’s out on her first 3) this is why they have all had the opposite gender second time round and why Kim had girl, boy, girl, boy
It’s not a coincidence people as they want you to believe it is
I agree
Its sad that this economy is forcing women to rent out their wombs just make money to survive
those children are still God's will, btw.
It’s such a slippery slope. I have had complex PTSD from suffering physical abuse from the age of 2 till I was 17. In my late 20’s I did attempt suicide but that was due to taking stillnox sleeping pills. I woke up at the sink and thought I was washing my hands and when I looked down I was slashing my wrists. 5 years later I had my son and it was the greatest moment of my life. At the age of 40, I was assaulted and ended up with a serious Traumatic Brain Injury. The last 10 years have been hell but I won’t even entertain the idea of suicide as I want to see my son keep growing up. Assisted suicide sets a very dangerous president. It’s bad enough that it’s legal to take a child’s life through abortion.
When all medical dental woke plans don’t work
Matthew 11:28-30
28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.
If 2 people don't have time to come together and make a baby, how do you have time to come together and RAISE a baby? Am I the only one who feels like children are being seen more like a pet in society, while actual pets are being treated like children?
My friend donated her eggs a few times and got cancer twice under the age of 30. They don’t tell you that about a donations that it’s very toxic and hard on your body.
Thank you for The information. I didn't know that.
Wow never heard of something like that. Eye opening
Glad someone else pointed this out, it’s true and a lot of people don’t know about the life long and serious side effects
Karma
Cancer is not karma…think twice before you say things like that.
Statistics show that most suicides are actually impulsive decisions, not actually planned. That makes assisted suicide even worse, as a lot of times it's an impulsive decision, based on life circumstances and extremely hard emotional situations. These are temporary situations that can change. How about assist these people in mental illness or resources to help get them back on their feet?
My friend committed suicide because of an accident. Without being too graphic he fell asleep with something restricting his air ways. My cousin lived out of state and talked him out of it on the phone and then within a couple hours we got the call our other friend found him. It is an absolutely split decision and many lives could be saved if they got proper help.
@@bisibody1283 I am so sorry to hear this. I can’t imagine the pain and turmoil that followed. Thank you for sharing.
This is what happens when you give people too many choices with out a consequence, I saw a comment were someone said "they are shopping for humans " and that's literally what it is,children are a gift not a right and you doing all this to get a perfect child shows why you shouldn't have one in the first place because you see them as a commodity. People that really want and love children will never pick a girl over a boy or care about what the mothers eyes look like, it's absolutely sickening 💔
I think part of the reasoning, aside from not being able to conceive is the obsession of maintaining one’s own beauty, body image, and ability to maintain attractiveness in their relationships. I’ve heard some women who had children wanting more express their negative experiences during pregnancy. Such as acquiring stretch marks, weight gain, and rejection by their mates because of their changed appearances. They preferred surrogacy to preserve their images of themselves and their relationships with their partners.
I thought about donating as a young woman. I felt sad for ladies who so wanted a baby. I didn't want a kid then. But now that I've seen what kind of crazy folks get surrogates sometimes, I could never do it. Plus I've had a child now and I know that from the minute they're born they know who carried them and instinct kicks in. Both baby and mom instantly bond. I never could break that bond I know I'd just die of depression after giving the child up.
I find it disturbing how humanity in a whole is disconnected entirely. Once people started playing God with life and death our values became unsacred. Thank you Mrs Owens please carry on to bring these topic to view.
Agree completely
But don’t most people play Gods or allow it as long as it benefits them? If your kidneys were failing would you want to be put on the list for organ donation or no? If you were bleeding out in a hospital would you want a blood transfusion or no? If you don’t want to get pregnant would you use an IUD or no? Epidurals are unnatural too. Resuscitation is unnatural too. Why do people only say playing God when it comes to surrogacy?
i mean humanity has always played with life an death. At some point we executed and burnt women under the claim that they were witches. The roman-christian church was also involved there. I don‘t think „our values“ are only now starting to become unsacred.
@@bobby4070 I understand your point but that was a time when our society was uneducated and was overcome by the fear of the unknown. Humanity has advanced from its primitive behavior but when authorities give the go head the masses become immoral.
@@bobby4070 I understand that. But the fact that it's become acceptable to kill babies is far more radical than even that I believe. Mankind has a sinful nature and we see that played out in so many ways.
Candace, please read "Them Before Us" by Katie Faust. I completely agree with her, that both surrogacy and IVF are all about the adoptive parents' happiness, and not the child. It's time we stop making such selfish choices because we "want" a child. Children are not products to be bought and sold. Description: "The book filters the complexities of marriage, familial relationships, and reproductive technologies through the lens of a child's right to be raised by both their mother and father. This book features the real-life stories of children by the hundreds, and every story makes the case that a child's (biological) mother and father are critical to their mental, physical, and emotional well-being. This book identifies the wide-ranging harms resulting from mother-loss and father-loss, and it provides a roadmap for effective children's rights advocacy."
It seems you have never had a conversation with a down to earth woman who suffers from infertility.
@@LadyLantz adoption could be an option...
@@MrsMuffin11 Yes it is an option but can take years to go through the process and some couples would like to have a biological child. In my opinion, IVF is neutral--just like anything else in this world, some people use it for good reasons and some people use it for bad reasons (customizing their child), but just because some ppl use it for bad reasons does not mean the whole IVF process is bad. I respect Candace's opinions but the examples she gave were not representative of every-day women who have gone through the IVF process--she used Celebrities as the example, which aren't a good example for anything, if you ask me. Where are the examples of every-day couples who don't care about "customizing" their baby, they just want to give a child of their own a loving home. Celebrities are all ready so far our of touch from reality, as I stated, they are not a good example for ANYTHING. I encourage you if you have the opportunity to talk to an average woman who went through the process of IVF due to infertility, she would tell you that IVF is an intense and emotionally draining process in which the woman is not guaranteed to have a baby. Be open to listen to REAL people with REAL insight on the matter--not just Celebrities (who couldn't even tell you what a loaf of bread or a gallon of milk cost these days cause they have their butler do everything for them). As a woman who has went through this process, you have no idea of the heart break and devastation that comes with this process and most people that are commenting have little insight into this either. They also have no idea that when after trying to conceive for years, the absolute joy it is to have medical intervention assist to be able to carry a child of your own and give birth to your own biological child. I have a 4 year old son who was conceived via IVF and he is happy, healthy, and loved beyond measure. I ask you to be objective and look at all sides before making swift judgements on others.
@@LadyLantz so this isn't about making judgements about the people who use ivf she is asking how we feel about IVF and if there should be limitations and how we would go about deciding what those limitations are. she never asks us to pass judgment, she asks us how we feel about it
@@LadyLantz Why do you think your genetics are better? Because that's basically what you are saying when you say you prefer a biological child over an adopted child. You do know children are alive before they come to the Earth, right? We are all eternal beings. Biological children come from the same place adopted children come from.
Happy Monday Candace! Thanks for speaking up on these topics!!
Turning Point 👋🏿
i did egg donation 4 times in my early 20s cuz i had given birth once and needed the money, also thought it was for a good cause to help someone have a family who couldn't... they told me it would have no impact on my fertility but i found out at 26 i was nearly infertile and now at 32 am basically completely infertile.. unfortunately i also decided this year i wanted another child... we are looking into foster adoption now but i get pretty upset thinking about how i wasn't given all the facts. and of course as a young adult i didn't do anything meaningful with the compensation i did receive.
I worked in Surro and egg donation. There aren't enough studies to prove either causes infertility.
Never sale your body for anything or anyone that’s what you needed to know, maybe you did know that. In my experience, the most sacred thing is not for sale and the money you can make will always end up as a debt. I hope people can learn from your story and thank you for sharing something so personal. God bless you
@@YA-46and2 yea, my friend gave many egg donations in her early 20s and then later in life in her late 20s when she decided to have kids, she was super fertile. Her bf touched her and she would get pregnant lol I mean, she had twins and then 2 more back to back.
@@Adennative in the U.K. egg donation is fully altruistic, so they are not paid. I think this is better. The donor can also withdraw consent right up to the point of insemination.
Please take some joy from knowing loved children have been created from your donations. You have given life and love to families ❤
My wife and I have struggled with fertility. It took 6 years of trying and eventually hormone shots for us to have our daughter. We began trying for #2 shortly after baby girl was born. After another 6 years and failed attempts with the shots, we had to discuss IVF. My wife wanted to, I had moral concerns. We spent months considering whether or not to do IVF (surrogacy was never on the table, we both oppose it).
Ultimately it came down to me saying I would only go through with IVF if we kept all of the viable embryos produced and had all of those kids. For anyone unaware, this could mean anything from 1 to 8 babies. My wife agreed to my terms as she wouldn't want the moral culpability for freezing or destroying any of them. We got to discussions with the IVF doctors, and the costs for choosing the route we did made it impossible for us to move forward.
Ultimately I see it as a blessing. Its been 2 years since all that and our daughter is coming up on her 9th birthday. We don't have all the children we wanted, but we have one incredible, bright, funny, sweet, and loving little girl.
I had a friend that even though her first pregnancy was natural (she got pregnant easily) and also had an easy pregnancy they did IVF for their second and third children. When I asked why would they decide IVF she said her doctor recommended it, even though their first pregnancy was natural and successful. It’s a money maker, it’s very sad.
Omg 💔
Are you serious?
Strange dr
My Dr. Recently suggested that to me. 1 year ago to be exact. He told me conceiving naturally will be virtually impossible because I am 44. Mind you I had my first child at 33, my second at 38 and my third exactly on my 42nd birthday. All natural. We decided to try natural and a year to date after he suggested IVF I am naturally pregnant. 7 weeks. He told my hubby It is a miracle. This has given me anxiety but my hubby keeps saying be easy, God's Plan. You are good. So I think, is it really a miracle considering I've had majority 'late' pregnancies. He charges an arm and leg for IVF. He is affiliated with the clinic. Medicine has become a money making scheme and with that, anything natural has moved to the backburner.
P.S. I would have been perfectly happy if the natural way didn't work, adoption was another avenue which I greatly believe in by the way. Oh and before people get shocked about wanting kids at an advanced maternal age, I don't know, I just love mothering and also I want to grow old with these beautiful people of mine and enjoy my limited time on earth ❤
I don’t think you have the full story here.
I have PCOS and have never been able to go through the IVF or even egg freezing process. I think as I’ve discovered more of a pro life stance, I’m more inclined to let nature take its course. If I get married one day and we naturally conceive, great. If not, I’m not playing God to compensate.
I feel the exact same way!
Have PCOS. Change your diet. I have two children, conceived naturally, after a few years of infertility.
@@leahwilliams9333 amazing, good on you!
@@leahwilliams9333 Same here. Doctor wanted us to start medication but my husband said no. We concivied 4 months after it. Took us 3 years but I also blame the birth control
@@biancavanewijk5827 the negative side effects of birth control are astounding.
For a long time I felt neutral on these topics. I also had that "weird feeling" that Candace described regarding both IVF and surrogacy. I've since been blessed to have been able to conceive and give birth to (2) children and have realized that "weird feeling" was indeed my conscience / moral compass. It's that feeling when something seems too good to be true knowing that if you let yourself learn ALL the truths about everything involved, it likely IS too good to be true. In many of these cases, the bottom line is fertilized embryos get tossed... I'm in agreement with Matt Walsh in that life begins at existence regardless of the method so this is a form of abortion by my definition. I very much dislike the idea of surrogacy as well. For many in Hollywood, this choice is more based out of convenience than anything and I'm saddened that this gift is so misunderstood.
Two options to prevent unused embryos being discarded.. one..only fertilise a limited number of eggs each treatment cycle (this method not good for older women as the likelihood of additional embryos with using their own eggs is far less)..two… additional embryos can be given for adoption. I think this is the most ethical approach. I am pro life.
It is sickening to hear what is happening in parts of India in relation to the embryo issue. Thank you for letting us know about the vice show Candace. Also, very sad direction we are going in in this world, to hear about that lady carrying the baby so her son can have a 5th child!!!! Is it not weird for them?!
They marry their own cousins so sadly that's a No ❗️
I haven't watched this yet, but I wanted to say that I am a huge opponent of surrogacy. I personally believe it is something only meant for the rich, and takes advantage of poor young women. Surrogacy bothers me so very much. There are just some obstacles not meant to be crossed, and this is one of them..
There are women who do it solely out of kindness and not for the money. There's a social media influencer I watch who did to help someone out. She was by no means destitute; she just knew she could do it because she'd had two healthy babies. She approached the couple herself and has no regrets.
@@megankissinger8269 still disgusting, wrong and playing god whether the woman is doing it ‘out of the kindness of their heart’ or not
@@megankissinger8269 Yea, for one, I think that is very strange in itself! And for two, that is the absolute rarest of situations! Almost all the cases are of young poor women. And tbh honest, I do not believe that woman you spoke of didn't get anything out of her surrogacy. I mean, she posted about it all over social media. That alone brought her tons of attention, praise, and money! Regardless, what she did, is rare and extremely uncommon. You can't base things on rare circumstances.
@@Sssssssslf But it's still her choice. Complaining about what consenting adults choose to do is fruitless. It's their choice and it effects no one but them.
@Samantha Whang Surrogate mothers often carry babies that are conceived from another couple's embryos. They pass the baby on to the biological parents. The children can still be with and nurtured by their biological parents. They just weren't carried by the biological mother.
I struggled to conceive. Three years of trying. Then nine weeks before we were due to start ivf treatment I got pregnant naturally. I couldn’t imagine giving birth to a child and handing it over. Couldn’t do it. Perhaps this is what the rich do now. It’s almost handmaidens take. Don’t like it and beginning to think these Kardashians might be actually bad people
You think?
If you really wanted to be a mom you would have adopted. You killed a lot of babies with your broken body. You have to live with this forever
@@anjamari4670 she didn’t end up having to do IVF. And her body isn’t broken. It’s beautiful and now she’s carrying a child so it’s even more beautiful. Please try to be kind.
@@anjamari4670 what an ignorant rude statement
@@anjamari4670 what the hell
I know someone who was struggling with her ivf choices. So she had 3 kids, each through ivf, and still had 4 fertilized eggs in the freezer. Her pregnancies were extremely difficult and she didn't know if she'd survive another. But there were 4 other souls that she and her husband created, that would just be tossed, or worse, given away. It's one thing when it's an act of God, and an embryo doesn't survive and you have a miscarriage. It's another when you've actively created life and then you choose to end it...idk if she ever made a choice, she was kind of upset about it. I don't think ivf for couples who have a hard time with infertility is fine, as long as you only fertilize what you're planning on trying to have. That's a lot more expensive, and don't they put in 2 or 3 fertilized eggs which is why sometimes you get twins? They're hoping they get at least 1 out of 3.....idk, something doesn't seem right. I feel for those who struggle with infertility.
@Deston Swan You were a fertilized egg at one point in time. Just as you were once this 👶. You were never this 🍤. You also were never a sperm or an unfertilized egg. A fertilized egg is a new human life, at it's very earliest stages of existence. You can call it a person, or not a person if you like. Just make sure you keep in mind all the other lovely people who refused to refer to certain human lives as people. You might find you dislike the company you're in.
@Deston Swan clearly you missed everything after my third sentence.
My Aunt (still living) and Uncle (now deceased) were devout Catholics and truly saw every child as a blessing. They loved children more than anyone I’ve ever known, and evolved the means over time to raise them. They had 10 children, showered them with love, and taught them values and the beauty of living productive, generous, and compassionate lives. Visiting was always so much fun - something big and good was always going on, from some celebration to backyard football games to riding on the train my uncle built to drive all over the property to impressive educational family projects. In time, the children grew up, went to college, in most cases married, and started their own beautiful families. One cousin and her husband did the IVF route after having one son. She delivered *4* beautiful babies (the ‘Quads’), whom grew up and are beginning to marry and start their own families. If ever there was a case for IVF and the affirmation of life, it’s my cousin and her family.
Due to some health circumstances and the fact that I wasn't really at a place in my life where I should be having children, I didn't even think about the idea of it, but also didn't think it was possible because I was wreckless in my early years of being promiscuous and never preventing pregnancy... I had addiction issues on top of my health issues and both made it hard for me to hold down a steady job or keep a steady relationship. So I had given up that idea. Then, at 36yrs old, I thought I was having a kidney abscess (which I had previously been hospitalized for over 3months after having one) and the symptoms seemed like they were coming back ,I rushed to my primary care Dr with my concerns. He came back with a positive pregnancy test. I'll tell you, honestly my first thought was well I can't go through with this. And then after my first ob appt there was no way I could do anything but pull myself together,there was no way I could do anything but go through with this. As someone who always fought for pro-choice, once I was actually faced with it, I could NEVER. I changed everything about my lifestyle and I have a happy, healthy 3 1/2 yo son right now that I don't know what I'd do without. Idk what the point of my story was except that you never know what God has planned for you, I was 36 before my eyes were opened to what I actually wanted out of life but never thought I could make it happen. I couldn't imagine having given up and being allowed to medically end my life before having the pure joy of my baby boy.
Candice's empathy when talking about suicide is palpable. She never ceases to amaze me.
Do you mean lack of empathy?
Her most empathetic experience is being in debt. It's laughable at best, totally clueless about despair at worst..
Agreed. She has a way to talk and connect with people on different topics.
@@TheJZP you forget that she mentioned her first boyfriend as well. She also was bringing up her debt to make a point about a slippery slope.
@@feliciab5019 she completely missed the point. Assisted suicide isn't for young people with problems that can be overcome. It's about having empathy for people with no hope. Mathematically no way forward. For anyone to tell these people that they should continue to suffer in destitution and loneliness is a disgusting lack of understanding. People that apply for assistance in ending life are asking for compassion. Candice is telling them to go jump off a bridge..
As a past suicide attempt survivor in my teen years who did recover, I am incredibly glad I was not successful. Suicide is a permanent solution to a short term Problem. I can accept euthanasia for someone terminally Ill and in a lot of pain, but not for a person suffering mental health issues that can be managed.
Who determines what “can be managed”? I personally haven’t made a decision on the topic but I have an issue with saying something can be managed when you have no idea Wtf that person is going through. Just because you, at one point, attempted to kill yourself doesn’t mean you know what everyone (or anyone) else is feeling or going through.
@@someoneyoudontknow7705 and I'm sorry but your part of the problem. We that are fighting against euthanasia are saying no matter your problem u ARE strong ent to fight and get through. U and your ilk are saying ok your not strong enough so go ahead and die if u want. U promote weakness in people we are promoting strength of mind. It doesn't matter what we go through we can find the strength to make it through if we are encouraged.
Same, same, *same!* I'm glad we're both still here. 💞💯
@@someoneyoudontknow7705 because realistically, the vast majority of mental illness *can be managed.* Suicide solves nothing. And leaves such trauma in it's wake! There are ways to deal with the worst problems in mental illness. They may not be joyously, ravenously happy but CAN learn to have fulfillment. And become well adjusted and functioning in life. Suicide is *never* the right "solution" to any issue.
@@GenXfrom75 AMEN TO THAT 🙏
also, I am glad we are both still here too, that’s not a small thing. We both know how much work it takes, but it’s not impossible. You are amazing 💕
Who else loves when they receive a new Candace Owens video notification??
Not me . Don’t even know why TH-cam suggested this. This woman thinks she’s knows it all. Nothing but a real dummy . Let people live now the fuck they want to live.
The gender specific embryo test is separate from normal IVF. It’s way way more expensive because it requires culturing several embryos and then plucking off a cell from it & testing for gender. This is not a standard IVF procedure. It’s very rare. I worked in reproductive endocrinology & obgyn. Adds about 10-20k to the bottom line.
It's completely disgusting. Knew an atrocious couple that bought 3 children via surrogacy. The way they talked about the REAL mother was vile, she was a brood mare, a means to an end. Well did not turn out well. The son committed suicide and the 2 daughters struggled with mental health/addiction. When they learned they were bought for 10,000 $$. Now it would be much much more. No one is owed a baby period. You are not owed someone else's child.
I’m terrified that pimps would buy those babies and then sell them for sex, their organs, etc
This isn't God's plan. It's really sad and hard. But God does say no.
Amen ! God is the author of life, just because we want a child doesn’t me we get one. People act as though children are like a car they can manufacture or go to any means to get one, while our society thinks they’re also able to discard them if “unwanted” human life has no value in our country.
I’m with you on everything else, but you lost me when discussing post partum mental illness(which is not merely sleep deprivation and stress) I had severe post partum anxiety and ocd however loved being a mom and did not feel burdened by the duties of motherhood. Financially stable, happy marriage, family support. Some things are biological and should NOT be undermined.
Thought that was really weird too.
So dismissive yet haven't walked a mile in those shoes. Wtf
AGREED
The ppd comment was ignorant
Yeah, idk if every mother goes through PPD but It took me years to overcome it. Wouldn’t wish it for anybody…
I agree, my grandmother from the East said that the way American hospitals position women to give birth is a big problem and the med too. I believe that’s the reasons for depression. My grandma gave birth to 13 children and her mother was the midwife. Women in the past would squat and the baby easily came down. Only if the baby was breached the women would be sent to the hospital or a medical doctor came to the home.
I am 27 years old and I am the product of in vitro fertilization. My mother went through four rounds in the 1990s because she couldn’t become pregnant on her own. About 15 eggs were fertilized even though only three of us made it to our actual births. Although it is extremely uncomfortable to see parents curating their children’s physical characteristics it pales in comparison to the horrifying truth that my siblings were thrown in the trash when they were considered undesirable. I don’t understand why more conservatives do not speak out against this disgusting disrespect to human life. I have been a human life since fertilization and so are my siblings and they deserve to be treated as more than just some laboratories trash.
There was a period in my life when I was suicidal. I was destitute, I just left a terrible marriage, I was a single mom, I did some very desperate things for money and I was ashamed of myself, I had a drinking problem. My son was the only reason I had to live and for a time I was so depressed I was looking into family taking custody of him so I could kill myself.
Things change. Now my life is wonderful. I cleaned up, built a new career, married the love of my life, and had a daughter. It rips my heart out to think that I may have missed all of this and left my son motherless.
My older brother committed suicide during the crash of 2008. I'm now older than he was when he died. Who knows what his life may have looked like today? He was a perfectly healthy young man in his 30's. He had so much life ahead of him. But he couldn't see the forest through the trees.
He used a gun. It was very messy. The mess isn't the tragedy.
Just because someone gives you permission to kill them doesn't make it OK to kill them. I can't believe this even needs to be explained. I can't believe we've fallen so far from grace. We're ending young lives before they even begin instead of helping them see the forest through the trees.
Candace, as somebody who would someday like to run for public office, I really want to thank you for this episode. This is one of those subjects that I really feel gets ignored by people in state legislatures where they have the power to do something about these contentious issues, but they completely ignore them because everyone focuses on the national level. You really helped give me a lot of interesting information about an issue that is completely overlooked. It’s definitely something to consider and I think maybe some effort should be put in towards focusing on this topic.
i’m not the most educated on the process but wanting a child with specific sex, physical traits (such as eyes, or athletic ability) doesn’t sit well with my spirit 😅
edit: surrogacy in general is odd… why is everyone anti foster kids & adoption these days?
It is like making a video game character tbh.
@@Nonybusinessxxxxxx i’m 21 & not ready for kids period. if i have the means in the future i’d love to adopt a kid of any age, our foster care system is a joke & i’d love to give those kids a loving home when i have the means to do so🫶🏽🫶🏽 maybe check yourself love🥰🥰
It's very Germany circa 1940s.....📎
Candace, please interview Katy Faust who is the founder of "Them Before Us." She goes in depth about this in her book. She would be a great one to interview and talk about this. Children are feeling commodified. PLEASE look into the work Katy Faust has done.
Yes!! One of my favorite Spillover episodes had her on.
Great segment, Candace!
One thing that kind of creeped me out about shopping for a sperm/egg...what about incest down the line? Like if a woman donates multiple eggs and a man donates sperm that is used multiple times, there is a possibility that the children who are created can be related and don't know about each other. What if 2 biological siblings (or half siblings) meet and fall in love, then what? 😳
As a current first time surrogate I just want to say not everything you mentioned about surrogacy is correct. I believe you are only speaking about celebrities and these rich people who are out of touch with reality. I am carrying a baby for a loving couple who have a child already but the mother cannot have another because she would literally die… as she almost did with her first child. We surrogate mothers go through a lot of things before we are approved to carry someone else’s child. I believe you have to go through this experience to be able to understand. Not everyone who using a surrogate is rich and just wants to buy a baby. There are real people and couples out there who are average and doing what they can to become parents. This is a beautiful thing and it’s great that we live in a time where science can make that happen.
Finally someone is talking about this thank you so much Candace for being someone black people can look up to
She is American. In my eyes.
Too many won't even try to hear her
Let's be Honest We all remember this Record :
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Let's be Honest We all remember this Record :
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No matter what color, she's someone to look up to! I hope my daughter will look up to her. We are all shades of the same race, the human race.
These surrogacy stories are mind blowing.. Especially the Australian couple story, separating twins! These surrogacy childern will grow up one day and will have to live in the world that was created for them... I'm 34, finally in a great, healthy, happy, all round partnership, we are getting married and we are about to try to get pregnant naturally... We already have made the decision that if it doesnt work for whatever reason, we accept that and live happily ever after with each other.. and it may not be our lives journeys to be parents. I don't know maybe people need to accept what happens in their lives? Adopt, foster, spend time with nieces and nephews or friends children more?... Maybe your lifes purpose is a different journey with your life?
Introspective and thoughtful comment ❤
@@Nonybusinessxxxxxx wrong! We are meant to judge righteously. If you are a Christian then you would understand her point. Making a child through science is not of God. Sarah was childless until 90. God has a plan for everything.
@@Nonybusinessxxxxxx Not once was I judging nor did I mention ivf??? The whole point was sometimes you may not be blessed with a child and maybe people need to accept their life journey may be a different path.... take your shit out on someone else...
@@Nonybusinessxxxxxx did you listen to the podcast????? Did you hear those stories????
Embryos are graded on things like their shape and cytoplasm “bubbles” which are really “debris” from cells dividing-some of the cytoplasm didn’t make it into either daughter cell so it hangs out as a tiny bubble next to the cell. My daughter is from IVF and was graded very poorly. I think she was a C but might have been a D. The doctor was very hesitant in this conversation with me, he told me he wasn’t sure I would still want to use my embryos. Well, I did use my own embryos and only one ‘took’ but regardless of the poor grading my daughter is happy, healthy, fun and everything a little girl should be. 😊. Incidentally, I was also told with two of my pregnancies with my sons that they had a high likelihood of Downs or other disorders. All my children are healthy. Doctors don’t know everything.
I never had an ultrasound with my daughter because I knew that I would not trust that Down's test anyhow and I wanted to have a stress free pregnancy . My midwife had been told her baby was Down's and it turned out that she was not Downs. I have had so many issues with tests that were wrong that I just choose to trust my body and God.
My wife and I looked into IVF when I got diagnosed with testicular cancer in 2020. Doctor said that it would be extremely expensive with very low chance of success. She was completely "doom and gloom" with a garbage bedside manner. We already had 2 kids so we figured we were done. I got treated with surgery and avoided chemo and radiation (which was the reason we were looking into IVF in the first place)...4 months later we found out she was pregnant with our 3rd.
I took a giant step back from the Blaze after Beck supported Dave Rubin. I feel like we are so close to losing conservatism and it’s values.
My husband and I are an older couple have been trying to have another baby for the last 3 years. We turned down IVF because we couldn’t stand the idea of having frozen embryos sitting in the fridge and “discarding” embryos we didn’t want or need. As a couple that believes life begins at conception that didn’t sit well with us. We turned it down even if it means we won’t have another child.
Go Candace! Thank you for making us aware of this. I had no idea and I appreciate you bringing this up
It is morally abhorrent, that's why it feels uncomfortable. You're stripping the humanity from the woman and the child and treating them like just things to be used, not to mention its an attempt to play God.
My wife and I went through a few rounds of IVF and it helped form our perspective on when life begins. We were faced with the unexpected decision after freezing an embryo during the first round of IVF. It remained frozen for a few years and we payed a monthly fee. We thankfully were successful during our 2nd round of IVF and did not want to go through the process again but, we needed to decide what to do with the frozen embryo. We came to the conclusion, the only route was thaw it and conduct a transfer. Genetic testing identified it was healthy, female and a grade B embryo. Unfortunately it was not successful but we did what we felt was right by trying to utilize the embryo. Since that decision, I have warned other couples going through IVF they just be prepared for this scenario. Not something talked about by many people regarding IVF.
@Zi Yan Oh come on, these people tried to do the right thing and you’re going to pick on their language?! Wow.
Let's stop saying committed suicide. It's died by suicide. They didn't commit a crime like committing murder.
We've officially reached the generation that doesn't know about Dr. Kevorkian
With regards to that comment left on the euthanasia episode, I have some very clear thoughts on the subject. My father committed suicide when I was five years old. I have had suicidal thoughts. Suicide is selfish. It's the coward's way out of a situation. Life's hard. We have to figure out how to thrive despite that. Suicide should never be a medical option.
If you are struggling with suicide. Seek help. Talk to someone. Find a friend, a true friend that will take a bullet for you, and talk to them about. The grief and pain doesn't last forever.
No way! I was literally researching it today and thinking about all the moral issues with it. At one point I thought “I wish Candace Owens would cover this, I bet her thoughts would be interesting.”
Then Boom! Here you are! Love it!!❤️
Hey as a IVF mama I'll help you understand the grading. The grading such as 5AA or 6AC is broken down by the day the embryo became a blastocyst and the letters are the quality. Day 6 blastocysts are "delayed" so they get frozen and are then transferred the following month. Day 5 blastocysts can be transferred fresh; it doesn't need to be frozen. The grading is I feel more based on the appearance of the blastocyst, like the tightness of the nucleus. The grading is simply used for determining which embryos have a higher success to implant and become a child. A lower quality embryo may have a higher risk of miscarriage or may not implant properly. Since IVF is expensive and having miscarriages are emotionally painful for perspective parents, doctors are going to recommend the higher quality embryo. Higher quality embryos can still miscarry and still may not implant. It's all about increasing the odds of a live birth. Separate from the grading system is the genetics test for the embryos. That is a separate cost. You can find out gender and if they have chromosome abnormalities. We chose not to do the genetics test, we left it up to fate. I have two beautiful, smart, healthy boys. My high graded embryo 5AA has autism whereas my 6AC embryo does not. But both kids are equally amazing.😍 I support IVF if people are having fertility issues. I do not support IVF and surrogacy for perspective parents "shopping" for the perfect child; it just feels wrong. Making a baby should not be the same as making a stuffed animal at Build a Bear.
You shopped for your perfect child, why can’t other people?
I am commenting as someone who chose the route of IVF after years of infertility. I believe IVF can be a gift from God, and I am grateful that I had this option when nothing else worked. There are a lot of things to think about. I personally would not use a sperm donor, an egg donor, a surrogate, or choose the gender of my baby before having the embryo(s) transferred. I chose not to have more than 2 embryos transferred because I was not willing to having a "selective reduction...(abortion), if I became pregnant with 3 or more babies. The fertility clinic that I went to never told me what grade my embryos were ever, but I assume they do need to classify them in order to try to give the embryos the chance of success. I ended up having twins, then a singleton, and then twins again (years later) using frozen embryos from the same and only batch of embryos as my first set of twins. The embryos do not have to be discarded. I chose to pay a storage fee for years to preserve my embryos. I am grateful everyday for my children and I know they are blessings from God. I do think it is important to be responsible with the choices surrounding the embryos though
At 20:30 you mentioned how so many of these egg donor girls are hs grads and in university. Now that I'm looking back at my college years, I was inundated with ads for surrogacy and egg donation. I even remember during a sweet date with my boyfriend at the time, just hanging out, listening to music and I got so many of these ads, I updated to premium on the spot because of how uncomfortable it made us. Wow. Weird to think about. I haven't gotten any ads like that on YT or a music streaming service in years. This was 2017... I think.
Incredible show. Really just pulled out the rug from under me in how thought-provoking it was. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Same here
My college used to have ads up on the boards as well. I went to school from 2005 to 2012.
Allie Beth Stuckey has a couple of great podcast episodes on the topic of surrogacy and IVF where I learned a lot from the interviews
I agree. Really insightful conversations!
I thought we were suppose to talk people out of un-aliving themselves... wow we really have gone to the time where evil is called good.
To each his own bc I have no input since I was extremely fertile and never experienced any of the fertility issues but my daughter did.
I actually agreed to carry for her but she couldn’t land on a solid yes and time past and I turned 52 and opted out at that point.
May God bless the women that have that struggle and I pray they put their trust in Him❤🙏🏽
There is a reason why the Catholic Church is against IVF and surrogacy. Look at the bargain we're making - in order to reduce the suffering caused by infertility we are creating unimaginable horrors such as psychological and physical stress of the woman, child trafficking etc. As Prager says, "is the cost worth it?"
Suffering has always existed due to our fallen nature but God, through Christ, makes that suffering redemptive for us and others around us. However, in order to get rid of suffering, we are willing to allow horrors to take place.
I don’t think anyone should play God.
Always a blessing to watch Miss Candace 🙏
Let's be Honest We all remember this Record :
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Candace over here bringing me out of my depression
I am not sure if you were diagnosed with depression but either way thank you for making this post. Hope is always needed. 💖
Let me share my pretty unique experience. My view both on abortion and IVF was always "you do you, but it's not for me". I always loved kids and wanted to be a mother, but adoption would always be my first choice. Fastforward to 32, I got diagnosed with cancer and prescribed shots for "induced menopause" to protect my fertility. I think it was about 4 weeks into it when I wanted to freeze my eggs all of the sudden. All the years of thought out (and gut) conviction - out of the window. I had crazy baby fever. In the end it was the lack of funds, together with pain and discomfort that stopped me from going through with this. It took a few months of hell with all the side effects to pass and I was back to my sound mind. Hormones are so powerful. This experience was very eye opening. Both to the severity of different changes women go through, and to how doctors are happy to experiment on patients without their informed consent. I'm glad I went through it, but most importantly - that I got out of it quickly.
Thank you for sharing your story!
This is disturbing. I could see this becoming like "designer children" as gene editing advances. I already have issues with people who treat children like "purse dogs" like they are an accessory to validate the parents in some way. Frightening.
We must save the children. Thank you for discussing this issue. I did not know any of this about Ivf or surrogacy.
I so agree with you Candice . I lived in the Netherlands & after 3 courses of Dutch language, I started to read woman's magazines also as my window into the Dutch culture. So one article was about a 20 years old who lost hid life due to euthanasia because of depression. I was bothered for months .
Depression isn't nice but there must be other ways to get him to where he felt loved, cared for etc
I feel your pain Candice ❤❤❤❤
Yes there are some really young people that trying to have euthanasia because of depression. It is really horrible but most they will not allowed to have it. On the side of IVF the Dutch laws are really strict. I’m Dutch btw
@@vnesje1981 Hallo Nesse. I'm glad that what I read is an exception. I'm for preservation of life as well. Mijn man is Dutch/Afrikaanse. Well nice meeting you Nessa. Ik woon nu in Canada 🇨🇦 maar ik mis Nederland erg.
See you again here. Love what Candice do. Such an intelligent, brave young lady.
Bye for now 🇳🇱
As a fellow mother of two, I wholeheartedly agree w everything you said in this video! ❤️ thank you for using your voice on subjects like these.
As someone who's been highly suicidal, I'm against the government trying to off me.
For me the choosing gender in a lab is strange enough. One of my friends that I grew up with, his mom had 4 boys and then turned to science. Because she really wanted a boy and a girl. To me that just makes it sound like his 3 brothers were failed attempts. Imagine finding out your mom hoped you would be a girl and had another kid for that reason.
I had a friend in high school who was the youngest child and only daughter in a family with 4 kids. Her mother told her she had cried with disappointment when her third son was born. Imagine being that son! And imagine how much more disappointed her mother would have been, if she hadn't been a girl. When people choose to have kids, I think they really just need to put the sex of the child entirely in God's (or Mother Nature's) hands and be joyful and grateful with whatever they get. Otherwise it's terribly unfair to the child.
I remember when I was young and I thought to myself I would volunteer as a surrogate because I was told how I was 'made for making babies', weird thing to say to a young person sure, but I took that as a blessing. I seriously thought about it because I knew people who struggled to have kids, but I changed my mind pretty quickly after I learned how commercialized it was and how horrible people could be about the surrogate or the embryos. I think if it was a case where it was someone I knew I would think about it, but absolutely not for a stranger.
There's adoption people, and I know that comes with big struggles and problems as well, but those kids are already here and they need people too.
Candace, you're a treasure. I'm so glad you're flying solo and speaking 5x/week. We need your voice in the world.
Glad to hear that you read comments, I have two points to make on this subject of assisted suicide. First, my relationship with my Mother was most difficult. When I was struggling to break free of her control I was 16 and tried to be a good daughter but it seemed to be an impossible task to live up to what my family expected as what they saw as good was not in me the same as my heart was with Spirit and not to be subservient and obedient to the will of those in this house who thought I had no value but to serve them. I was so devastated one day and during a heated moment told my mother that I was as i locked myself in the bathroom going to kill myself.. and she said go ahead ...she never told me but I later knew that she attempted to abort me when she was pregnant without telling anyone. The Lord had a better plan, Doctors told her that I was to be born with no arms or legs and this was not to her agreeable. I was born perfect despite what doctors said but her attempt to abort me was still in my cellular memory and in her own mind. She must have carried this to her grave being it was not a good relationship and she likely felt remorse for attempting to release me from this life. It showed in her deep state of sorrow and the way she treated me, I also learned after her passing that my dad who raised me was not my dad either of birth, He was long gone but still this was something she took to her grave too. In that moment I was going to do what I said and I took the bottle of pills and choked one down and then I felt something and I got the aware that I was NOT to do this. That I was to live. I was in a state of shock from my mother's word to me and disbelief that I just heard what I heard and it was like something inside me shifted. I knew that my life had a purpose and it was it to live up to their expectations but to e true in the self that the Lord has prepared me to be. I was on my own from then on. So I know what it feels like to be in that position but glad that I had intercession from the HOLY ONE. Later I was in an accident that took me to pain that I never knew was possible. I even prayed the Lord would take me. When I felt again that feeling that my life has purpose. I then began to pray that if not to take me then help me find a body that I can use and to bring to me what I require for this body to serve this purpose now. He did and I found healing in essential oils and holistic practices that were better then the pills that my doctors offered. I am not one who wills to die now then but was the situations that I did not think..THINK I could overcome but the LORD KNEW and he put in me this knowing and then I was gained the necessity in a friend to seek another term of my life in purpose of more than just sitting around in pain. I succeeded and my life improved and I taught others to do the same.
The issue of this assisted suicide is that we do not know who we may influence in a life as had at the age of 16 I released this life I would not have assisted all those in my Holistic practice (thousands in 35 years of practice) that came to me as a last resort before they either went under the knife and risked more than just a moment of time of recovery or who like me felt that if I have to live like this then Lord take me now. My clients went on to rekindle marriages ( yes was told I stopped a divorce or breakups); healing included love for self that was healthy not self centered and for those that used or abused them and they recovered to be happier and healthier in a life that continued. Giving someone a way out is no solution. Giving them the Truth (and yes the Truth sets us free truly in our heart and mind) a way ti see what was done or happened or happening was not the end but the now ability to choose differently and to choose what in this life is good and supportive and healthy and kind and loving. Children too were treated and they grew up happier and healthier being I could in my practice help them to tell parents or others what was not gained or to gain to the help from those situations that were hurting them. In this we cannot say it is ok to commit suicide because of this or that. There is no good reason neither is it necessary in any gian of good. Suicide offers the Soul many different meanings and this is that the Lord was not just there to intercede for me but for you and all who have this now issue to deal with. In that time with my mother, it was not her, but what used her and abused her mentally that was using me this way. IT and this is an thing that I will not name but will say the Lord gains to me was an entity that used her and abused her and then she uses her family in the meaning of this influence too. Alcohol, physical abuse, verbal abuse and more. I say that this is to you a sharing of aware and to your followers of a true testament. No one should in any terms offer to release a life before it is their time. When is their time? when they are no longer in a purpose of this life to fulfill. I AM a teacher of true aware and this is my aware to you here. Do not give up the child you carry and never seek to end a life by your own hand or those who are willing to do it for you. I AM.
I Am
Wow! What a story.
Thank you
I ABSOLUTELY LOVED WHAT YOU STATED IN THIS VIDEO! ❤
As a person who has experienced depression, and sometimes still experience periods of depression, I love that you spoke against this dangerous trend. Had I had the option to take a pill to end my life, during one of my many dark valley moments, I wouldn’t had come to realize that these painful moments of my life, are indeed temporary happenings and not permanent existence.
This is a horrible movement that we need to stand against at all cost. Thank you for being the voice of reason. ❤ LOVE THE SHOW!
Twins should never ever ever be separated