THIS IS THE FUTURE OF VR - MeganeX superlight 8k TESTED!

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  • I flew all the way to Tokyo, Japan to check out the future of high-end PCVR gaming: the MeganeX superlight 8k! The device is the first 4k microOLED panel headset that will come to consumers! Find out everything you need to know about the headset and see my very first impressions of it!
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  • @mixedrealityTV
    @mixedrealityTV  วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    What are your thoughts about the MeganeX superlight 8k?

    • @TemporaryVoid
      @TemporaryVoid วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Nice but:
      Too expensive not even taking in account the price of the controllers, base stations and wireless audio solution on top 🥶
      We have to wait few years for the market to become reseanable, I don't imagine the look of the games that runs 4k*2 at 90hz.
      We also have no info about motion clarity yet.
      I'm still waiting for a headset with a similar weight of the beyond/meganex light with visual specs close to a quest 3 without camera, autonomous XR2 bullshit, batteries so we can cut on the price (and weight) and have a dp port for no compression. Kinda like a beyond 2, without the glare, motion blur, pannel limitation at max res/refresh rate and other issues...

    • @sokola311
      @sokola311 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yes!! Love this!! Also, if Japan has this coming out I imagine Valve coming out with something similar soon. Well, at least I hope so. I am looking forward to Valve's new lineup considering Microsoft just screwed all of us.

    • @linoir8992
      @linoir8992 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It looks super good, but I find myself wondering if this is a replacement to the non 8k version, or if that under 1700 usd version they mentioned to you then, is still going to come. I also would like to ask if you can ask them if they ever plan to add AMD support like Pimax has begun doing. The website says it only works on /with Nvidia GPU's.

    • @scanx6163
      @scanx6163 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The same with inside out tracking, I can buy it...

    • @Sofian375
      @Sofian375 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      No eye tracking and way overpriced.

  • @Kryojenix
    @Kryojenix วันที่ผ่านมา +73

    It’s like a Bigscreen Beyond that you can share with friends without needing them to have the same shape head! And with higher resolution!

    • @angrybeaver6667
      @angrybeaver6667 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      and also with much better lenses. BSB lenses suck from what I heard.

    • @ji3200
      @ji3200 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      ​@@angrybeaver6667 its worst glare and sweet spot i ever try in last 8 years. Glare and sweet spot never bother me but Bigscreen did

    • @angrybeaver6667
      @angrybeaver6667 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@ji3200 thanks for the input, yeah I can't go backwards in lense quality, you literally look straight through them the entire time, almost the most important thing

    • @toututu2993
      @toututu2993 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Kryojenix Also doesn't required you to buy a base station set and own the latest Iphone

    • @HeckinDoga
      @HeckinDoga 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      As a Beyond daily driver, I can agree. The lenses sweet spot is so small that I had to get 2 new face gaskets as well as an ipd adjustment after purchasing mine. I noticed a lot of glare and chromatic aberration as well. You get mild ghosting in some high contrast scenes too. It's sad that I was more wow'd by the quest pro and 3 because of the difference the lenses make. I'm really looking forward to the next small form factor headset that has lenses that compete with the quest 3/pro as well as have microOLED panels.

  • @Matteo-rf1ns
    @Matteo-rf1ns วันที่ผ่านมา +74

    This form factor is perfect

  • @ttoby8440
    @ttoby8440 วันที่ผ่านมา +64

    Thank you Sebastian for paying the Tokyo trip from your own pocket, just to bring us those great PCVR impressions.

  • @julianmazzola
    @julianmazzola วันที่ผ่านมา +88

    Sigh... [pulls out wallet]

    • @davefa1432
      @davefa1432 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

      Sigh... [pulls out kidney]

    • @julianmazzola
      @julianmazzola 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@davefa1432 😭

    • @noctisarcanus7894
      @noctisarcanus7894 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      Sigh... [pulls out]

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      sigh... [doesnt pull out wallet and stops watching this youtube video]

    • @shuttzi9878
      @shuttzi9878 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Eats their souls from the sighs... [Pulls out their wallets to pay for it]

  • @der60er
    @der60er วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    future vr is coming strong ❤

    • @mitcherny6965
      @mitcherny6965 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Yes, but not for products with lighthouse tracking.

    • @r.m8146
      @r.m8146 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@mitcherny6965 or lacking eye-tracking

  • @adrianfox7972
    @adrianfox7972 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    Having a headset that you can flip up has always been something I've wanted in a VR headset design. Mainly because of developing VR games and find it frustrating to have to put the headset on and off when making small changes and re-running. This makes sense in other uses as well, rather than using pass through and not being able to talk to people without it being a bit weird.

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      thats one reason i loved my lenovo explorer.

    • @heyjeySigma
      @heyjeySigma 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      huh..? this isnt new dood. you can flip up the Hp reverb g2 as well.. im sure there's others too

  • @soozikins
    @soozikins 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +16

    My computer and gfx card melted playing this video.

  • @Rebel_at_Heart
    @Rebel_at_Heart วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    Honestly You do really good job for VR community. Kudos Sebastian.

  • @zackmac5917
    @zackmac5917 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Wow!
    I think after years of iterations and false starts, sounds like they finally got it.
    And damn I did not expect this.
    It sounds like every box on my checklist is ticked. Insane.

    • @deviceinside
      @deviceinside 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      my exact thoughts! They nailed the form factor. This makes the Apple Vision Pro look like a clunky dinosaur.

    • @Sacred-Lotus
      @Sacred-Lotus 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Except the lack of 1 point eye tracking. If there is eye tracking capability at 200Hz, this headset is GOLD.

    • @zackmac5917
      @zackmac5917 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Sacred-Lotus true, but for me personally I have to say that eye tracking isn't a must. Its a bonus. All the crucial necessaries are there with this at least! 200hz would be perfection too but 90hz micro-OLED will feel closer to 120hz lcd anyway, its so good.

  • @ChrisM541
    @ChrisM541 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    8K you say. That's a lotta pixels to push. This look like a very spicy meatball. I like it.

    • @nokteur1429
      @nokteur1429 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Its not true 8k doe i hate when companies make sh*t up just to sell a product, but yes its a nice resolution

    • @FPChris
      @FPChris 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@nokteur1429 No pc is going to push even TWO 4k res images at 90fps+.

    • @ChrisM541
      @ChrisM541 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@FPChris Very, very true, but as long as the game engine is pegged to, say, a 0.02301% (or thereabouts, of course) workload then maybe 90fps is doable at 2 x 4k.
      In any rate, yes, gfx complexity would be severely compromised - you'd be a long, long way off using your dGPU to the max.

    • @yukihiroshishido8093
      @yukihiroshishido8093 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      all the more reason to spend 2000 USD on the 5090 XD

    • @heyjeySigma
      @heyjeySigma ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@yukihiroshishido8093 imagine spemding 2000 for an 5090, then 2k for this Megane Vr and even base stations for those who dont have it..
      5000 usd or more for vr is absurd and a waste of money tbh

  • @pumpkineater23
    @pumpkineater23 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Wow, it looks amazing. The only 'knit-pick' I would have is that it isn't inside-out tracking. I know the lighthouse system is a little more accurate but inside-out is pretty close these days and the lighthouse set-up just seems a little last-gen.

  • @Broodjemetbeleg
    @Broodjemetbeleg วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    bravo six going dark.

  • @moshebiderman1750
    @moshebiderman1750 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Probably need a great graphiccard to support 8k, dynamic foeavated rendering might have helped

  • @daltimond
    @daltimond วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Just aesthetically this looks REALLY cool.

  • @anonyshinki
    @anonyshinki 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Shiftall has a very spotty track record actually releasing any of its products, especially outside Japan, so I'll believe it only when they start shipping. Yes, it's not so much their fault when the supply chain just wasn't working out despite promises, but nonetheless. Otherwise, yeah, perfect little device. If I don't get a Beyond before this ships, I'll consider dropping two grands on it.

  • @vendabenda5831
    @vendabenda5831 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    This headset looks amazing, Bigscreen Beyond on steroids.

  • @ben433
    @ben433 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Does it have eye tracking? That would be quite useful for the resolution- almost necessary. Still, very exciting indeed!

    • @r.m8146
      @r.m8146 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      This thing is so depressing. We are almost in 2025, and this people want to ship a headset without eye-tracking. It is simple outrageous.

    • @Sacred-Lotus
      @Sacred-Lotus 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      No news on eye tracking, so probably not. For dual 4K screen stereoscopic rendering, forveated rendering is a *MUST Have* , otherwise this HMD can render an 4090 down to its knees, barely go past 65~70 FPS (except for very simplistic scenes, you could easily go past thousands FPS with a box and a plane 😁)

    • @jimmy8x541
      @jimmy8x541 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      yea absolutely need eye tracking

  • @Pece73
    @Pece73 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fantastic! Please ask for dark scenes in the demo!!

  • @newDell-q4w
    @newDell-q4w 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Looks like those lenses are also coated with grease 1:17 🙃

  • @Rostovgenchik
    @Rostovgenchik 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Hello, Sebastian :) I remember that video perfectly well , and the same person who flashes in this video presented a prototype to you and a companion . And in my opinion, this helmet is from Panasonic. This instance looks just fine, finally something really convenient and apparently

  • @angrybeaver6667
    @angrybeaver6667 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I want to pre-order it, but can we trust Shiftall to actually ship these in the spring? I don't want to be out $1900.

    • @mixedrealityTV
      @mixedrealityTV  วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Yes, this is backed by Panasonic. They will deliver.

    • @iraklimgeladze5223
      @iraklimgeladze5223 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Just wait more reviews

    • @peshozmiata
      @peshozmiata 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@mixedrealityTV Panasonic sold them off to CREEK & RIVER in january of this year

    • @mizuneigh
      @mizuneigh 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Susge. Also Dan gay.

    • @RichAbe23
      @RichAbe23 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      “Please note that orders cannot be cancelled, returned or refunded once confirmed.”

  • @regwatson2017
    @regwatson2017 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Come back to us when they have a retail model available, pricing and software to use with it.

    • @TChalla007
      @TChalla007 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      $1,899. They have no obligation to come back. He did a review. Brought me here and I found the website with the specs. Maybe do some research on your on instead of waiting for people to do it for you.

  • @powerhouse884
    @powerhouse884 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    THIS^ and the "BigScreen Beyond" are the perfect size VR headset to have as industry standard.

    • @zackmac5917
      @zackmac5917 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@powerhouse884 PCVR of course pushing the boundaries for VR.
      Imagine if Meta stuck with PCVR instead of moving thecindustry towards standalone.
      We would have got here faster.

    • @powerhouse884
      @powerhouse884 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@zackmac5917 Sadly VALVE and HTC still make horrible bulky headsets.

  • @Eagledocstew
    @Eagledocstew 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Pancake lenses and an OLED screen? Isn’t that the perfect combination? Being able to push in and expand out the viewer makes it look easy to adjust. This may be another incredible VR option

    • @sturmx96
      @sturmx96 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Actually microOLED screens which is even better.

  • @andy545i
    @andy545i 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    👍Innovation going in the right direction. However, the lack of inside out tracking, audio and perhaps eye tracking (at this price point) is a no go for me. Will wait for crystal super (albeit not my favorite size and form) as my G2 replacement for MSFS/DCS.

  • @VRFlightSimGuy
    @VRFlightSimGuy วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very intriguing first impressions Seb (loving the T-Shirt btw). 🤟

    • @elmaxlife
      @elmaxlife 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      4k per screen but no eye tracking
      So no way to run that with good FPS even with RTX 5090, or maybe x)

  • @rodiape
    @rodiape 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    This may be my next headset

  • @HeckinDoga
    @HeckinDoga 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    This sounds like exactly what i want right now. I just want high quality eye tracking that can potentially be used for foveated rendering. this is a big must for resolutions like these. Unfortunately we probably won't see full utilization until the next valve headset forces steam support for such a thing. I would still like the hardware if I'm to leave the Beyond.

    • @ChrisM541
      @ChrisM541 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You need edge to edge perfect clarity for proper/full FR. Without that all you have is fixed FR at the centre, and that's not FR i.e. what's the point of 2/4/8k if the image, outside the sweet spot, is blurry.

    • @HeckinDoga
      @HeckinDoga 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@ChrisM541 I understand what you mean, but I don't think it's an argument against eye tracking foviated rendering. What you've described would be justification for implementing fixed FR on something like the Beyond, but not something like the quest 3 or pro. Their sweet spots and clarity at higher fovs are good enough to allow you to look around. As we increase the size of the sweet spot and the resolution of the panels, you will eventually take performance where you can find it. Eye tracking will be the best way to do that without losing fidelity.

    • @ChrisM541
      @ChrisM541 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@HeckinDoga Eye tracking is the future, definitely, just as full frame ray tracing is also the future. I just wish more focus was put on getting the weak links fixed first. Still, it's true to say that this doesn't stop working on both at once.
      It's also important to understand that FR, done properly, involves a significant change to the game engine itself...and not only at the driver level as Nvidia's faux FR will have you believe.

  • @ナンインイン
    @ナンインイン 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    You’re upload sooo fast!!👍

  • @goofycart
    @goofycart วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Yeah if this was inside out tracking it would be perfect

  • @seanchristophersynthesizer6999
    @seanchristophersynthesizer6999 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I just bought a Bigscreen Beyond, but will seriously be considering this once it is officially released next year. :)

  • @mrmobbs350
    @mrmobbs350 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video thank you.
    For me I would like a headset with these lenses / screens etc but I'm happy for a bigger form factor to scrap the lighthouse tracking
    It feels like there are a lot of headsets that have 90% of what we want but none tick all the boxes lol

  • @CognosSquare
    @CognosSquare วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Hecking sweet piece of hardware. Lighthouse => less hardware in HMD => lighter. Something for everyone who says Crystal light is too heavy.

    • @abeidiot
      @abeidiot วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      vastly overestimating the weight of a couple of cameras and an IMU

    • @aonodensetsu
      @aonodensetsu วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@abeidiot and compute and cooling, you don't simply transmit the image for 2 4k screens *and* cameras *and* sensors *and then* compute tracking matrices in time for the next frame at like 120fps, bundle of cables ofc skipped

    • @mitcherny6965
      @mitcherny6965 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yes, considering that modern hi-res cameras can be fitted into a space a few millimeters thick...

    • @Healthy_Toki
      @Healthy_Toki 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      would gladly trade ipd adjustment automated motors for inside out tracking.

    • @StatusQuo209
      @StatusQuo209 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah the Q3 has cameras and a battery in the headset and weighs only like 500ish g.

  • @Taikaru
    @Taikaru วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Will this one work natively with Linux? Still holding out for a next generation one... Index 2. But this one was not on my radar and sounds really good!

    • @yukihiroshishido8093
      @yukihiroshishido8093 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      probably not without alot of tinkering, too push out all those pixels it relies heavily on Nvidia software, cant even use it with an AMD card.

    • @Taikaru
      @Taikaru 53 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      @@yukihiroshishido8093 Oh really??? I have an AMD card :O

  • @zangarkhan
    @zangarkhan วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    This is what I was expecting from Google, Meta, HTC like 2 years ago. I feel like should add a part to make this into inside out tracking as well. I do think inside out is now the default min for tracking. Base station set-up is just a no-go. It would be great if they partnered with meta to run their OS; this would open the market up beyond PC VR.

    • @khaledassaf6356
      @khaledassaf6356 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Then it wouldn't be this small, it'd be Quest sized.

    • @zangarkhan
      @zangarkhan 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@khaledassaf6356 That's why I said add-on. It would be optional. Probably work like the slot Valve Index has with processing box in your pocket.

    • @Eskoxo
      @Eskoxo 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@zangarkhan that seems like would make it overcomplicated with bunch add ons and costs etc and base stations might not be the best for initial setup wise they are still best and most accurate tracking we have that enthusiasts want for full body tracking etc.

    • @limitlessinmind
      @limitlessinmind 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed with you!

    • @Jogngood
      @Jogngood 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      It has a USB c slot so anything is possible

  • @Belthorian
    @Belthorian 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The way the headset is mounted reminds me of Military night vision devices.

  • @cyphre
    @cyphre 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love all the ideas and concepts, but stripping it clean means its directly competing with the Beyond... which is like, half the price if they are launching at that price.
    Only real benefit are the displays (that no modern graphics card could easily run) and the mounting method. Which is quite nice, don't get me wrong!
    I think the only real hitch is that they haven't really successfully shipped any of their previous designs yet.

  • @FiliusFidelis
    @FiliusFidelis วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Would have loved this, had it been like half that price.

  • @sigis72
    @sigis72 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I want one, this looks perfect

  • @WOojerVest3andQuest3onMe
    @WOojerVest3andQuest3onMe วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It looks like a clever design for the Headstrap. I like the move in and out with the flip up feature. But, Pimax Crystal Light is going to be my PCVR headset for many moons 🌙. I don’t need another headset I just need more amazing games. But, this headset is definitely impressive. Thanks for sharing. You’re Awesome! My friend… 😉👌🙋🏻‍♂️🫶

    • @ji3200
      @ji3200 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      You need more amazing games??? You never heard UEVR mod? We got way too many and i don't even know if i can keep up with 13,000 Unreal engine 4,5 games 😂

    • @WOojerVest3andQuest3onMe
      @WOojerVest3andQuest3onMe 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ji3200 Yes, this UEVR injector is an amazing mod when it works properly. It is frustrating for me every time I try to get into a game. I always have a struggle finding the perfect settings. I still haven't been able to get Dead Island 2 working with it. I know it works because I have seen TH-cam videos of people playing it with UEVR. I try to play Black Myth Wukong using the UEVR, and it isn't a great experience. I can only manage to get excellent visuals or excellent performance, not both. Note: I am using a Pimax Crystal Light with 4090 card. I really want an official virtual reality game that doesn't require all this tinkering. If the UEVR injector worked flawlessly for me. I would probably enjoy it more. I don't mind using playing with a controller. Luke Ross mods are cool but again lack the feel of an official game made for VR.

  • @leonard8766
    @leonard8766 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is incredible. It's almost what we all want. This headset with passthrough and battery and I would happily buy for £1500-2000!

    • @RanmaruRei
      @RanmaruRei 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      A battery will kill its main feature: being superlight.

  • @Michele_pioli
    @Michele_pioli 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I agree, the future of VR is moving in that direction: light headset, 4K microOled panels, pancake lenses, built-in diottical correction.
    But not with the base stations tracking. In my opinion.

  • @AdamsSIMporium
    @AdamsSIMporium 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Cheers this looks awesome, now please hurry up and bring it to the UK Shiftall!

  • @Pe11ePD
    @Pe11ePD 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    What to push this monster? Two upcoming 5090 in SLI?

    • @r.m8146
      @r.m8146 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      A 4k PCVR headset with no eye-tracking...are people actually demented???Don't they understand what eye-tracking is?

    • @Pe11ePD
      @Pe11ePD 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@r.m8146 I didn'\t mentioned eye tracking? Where did you pulled that info from? It has two display of 4k resolution, almost two Pimax Crystal.

    • @AlexysRM
      @AlexysRM 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Pe11ePD Eye tracking can help significantly reduce the GPU demands through foveated rendering.

    • @Pe11ePD
      @Pe11ePD 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@AlexysRM I'm aware of that. Foveated rendering helps performance around 20%, so it does also in Pimax Crystal. Both have foveated rendering and eye tracking, and still this MeganeX has 8k pixels vs 5k in the Crystal.

    • @sturmx96
      @sturmx96 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      One for each eye.

  • @MetaverseAdventures
    @MetaverseAdventures 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Exciting!!!!

  • @drgregvr3368
    @drgregvr3368 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Really curious about the edge to edge clarity. It’s so bad in the beyond I don’t even use that headset anymore

  • @EndersVRcade
    @EndersVRcade 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow at least based on your initial impressions it seems to have The Beyond beat in every area except looks (this one is personal but I doubt many will are you The Beyond looks worse) and the custom fit interface (which some people see as a drawback because they can’t share it). Well I guess The Beyond could be lower on price too since I haven’t heard an official price for The Megane X. Such an exciting time for PCVR fans and thanks for the video!

  • @zenobikraweznick
    @zenobikraweznick วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is awesome, thank you!

  • @fullstomache
    @fullstomache วันที่ผ่านมา

    For VRChat people on Lighthouse gear with FBT and who have Diver-X, UDCAP, or Immersive Gloves coming in the future, this is a no brainer upgrade from the Index. From the Beyond, it might possibly be worth it. Would be nice to get a more details on the lenses and the comfort of the headstrap. Wonder why they aren't utilizing that slot on the forehead for a top strap yet?

  • @emgee44
    @emgee44 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The way the glasses swing up, it's just like a set of military NVG, what a great idea, it's kinda obvious when you look at it. Just wish the price was more reasonable, but given time?
    I can see this form factor becoming the standard.

    • @Ashley-1917
      @Ashley-1917 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      This has been done before quite a few times. The problem is that this sort of hinge doesn't hold the headset tight to the face, and so you loose a few IPD points.

  • @GoMArkkrAM
    @GoMArkkrAM 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Looks like those army nocturnal vision glasses.
    That’s pretty cool must says

  • @jiinkC
    @jiinkC วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like how they mount it to the headstrap with what looks like someting from a night vision army helmet mount, that gives it a lot of adjustment and flip-up ability. Those things are expensive though

  • @AuxiarMolkhun
    @AuxiarMolkhun วันที่ผ่านมา

    This looks awesome and I'm very happy for Shiftall, but that price is going to make it extremely slow to pick up if it will manage to at all. If they could get it down to even the price of the Bigscreen Beyond then they would have a much more competitive product.

  • @n9ne
    @n9ne 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    that accordion gasket is what they used back in the day for cameras im pretty sure. how does it feel though?
    the structure does seem flimsy, hopefully they allow third party straps.

    • @slammerf16
      @slammerf16 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      PSVR2 has a similar gasket arrangement - I find it very comfortable. Of course it only works if the HMD is supported correctly by the halo strap so the gasket isn't bearing weight. Overall, I prefer it to squishing down foam padding.

  • @JPWestmas
    @JPWestmas วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    So my first thought is, another lighthouse headset? Wish it wasn't. Something so small and convenient should have its own tracking solution.

    • @fullstomache
      @fullstomache วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      It's small because tracking and compute is off headset. Same story with the Beyond.

    • @JPWestmas
      @JPWestmas วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@fullstomache so, camera sensors can only be designed large?

    • @PromethorYT
      @PromethorYT วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@JPWestmas From what I understand it require onboard computing, sensors and probably a cooling solution, making the headset heavier and bulkier.

    • @Nobody-Nowhere
      @Nobody-Nowhere วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@fullstomache tracking cameras are really small, and don't require any onboard compute.. the compute part in camera-based tracking is handled by the PC.

    • @Broodjemetbeleg
      @Broodjemetbeleg วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PromethorYT bro, why does my psvr2 work out of the box on pc then? camera's are cheap and take up no space at all. it was probably easier for them to use lighthouse compared to developing their own tracking.

  • @sdafkldghdsgegh
    @sdafkldghdsgegh วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Looks interesting... What about audio? will there be an over-ear solution from the vendor?

    • @ge2719
      @ge2719 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      needs a headstrap with audio like the beyond go for sure.
      though it looks like the ports are all on the underside front. which is a terrible place to have an audio cable hanging down if thats where it is.. when you want to tilt the headset up youre going to have a wire in your face...

  • @RabbitConfirmed
    @RabbitConfirmed 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    love the form factor, would like to see different head mounting options

  • @thatstokedgamer
    @thatstokedgamer 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Finally! I'm excited to buy this and hopefully replace my main vr headset. Woooooah. Good binocular overlap as well?!?! I'm sold. I imagine the panels themselves make this headset so damn expensive.

  • @loudoesreviews
    @loudoesreviews 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The placement of the Display Port cable is awkward - but given the design understandable. Maybe they could have run the connection to the back of the headstrap...

  • @martijnvalk5613
    @martijnvalk5613 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great review, thanks! Personally I do not mind that it is lighthouse tracked, I have Reverb G2 en before that an Index. The headset tracking of the G2 is fine but that of the controllers is not, so therefore the lighthouse preference. Also I hope they’ll come up with an audio solution

  • @TPont7089
    @TPont7089 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Another great form factor, great visuals and only Supported via SteamVR headset ..... Please, ask if they would support OpenXR ???

  • @khaledassaf6356
    @khaledassaf6356 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This headset looks perfect from what I can see. Might even be a worthy upgrade to the Crystal.
    Any idea on brightness? I think the dude in the video mentioned something about still tweaking that? Any idea of any audio solutions they'll have with this, or will we need to bring our own?
    Still not a fan of that name, though, lol, but the product, on paper at least, looks like what we've been asking for.

  • @polarbear359
    @polarbear359 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This MeganeX definitely looks exciting and solves many problems. My concerns are #1 cost, and then how durable the lens coating will be, no built-in audio solution, and no info on a microphone. It will also be interesting to see how they solve refresh rate through the PC connection.

    • @ReavoEnd
      @ReavoEnd 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      It does have dual microphones.

  • @importon
    @importon วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How many nits of brightness??! This is a super important spec

  • @yarra01
    @yarra01 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    All VR headsets should have these IPD and Dioptre adjustments. But I don't need 8K, just good 2 to 4k with great audio. I went from inbuilt audio to none with the Aero and it is a pain!

  • @staubsauger2305
    @staubsauger2305 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent. I'm interesting in buying one of these if it works well in DCS.

  • @Maze47269
    @Maze47269 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I saw on the website that it isn’t compatible with AMD GPUs. Will that change in the future?

  • @VRRat
    @VRRat 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting no one is talking about this!!! WTH!!!! Great COVERAGE BRO!!!

    • @TTwk
      @TTwk 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ya. Why no one talk about this.

    • @VRRat
      @VRRat 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@TTwk I few names like Brad Lynch and Brad are.

  • @pierce2001
    @pierce2001 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    this headset looks awesome. I’m looking to buy a vr headset and this might just be the one i go for. I tried the quest 3 and vision pro but i’m still searching for the one i really want to buy

    • @TheRanguna
      @TheRanguna 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Don't, see the other comments on this video. This is crazy expensive for an headset with so little features, small fov, no wireless, no built-in audio, no tracking whatsoever. The only good thing it has is the per eye resolution and being lightheight

  • @gerarderloper
    @gerarderloper 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If image quality is pretty much your only desire for VR, then this sounds great.
    I however see 102fov as OK not good, 110 or around that is GOOD. IMO
    Also that price tag for a headset that appears to need light towers is a bit much. Guessing that display costs 80% of the price.

  • @tobiasjakobprivate
    @tobiasjakobprivate 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    sounds like an Immersed Visor to me (which is released 01/2025). But with the difference that its more expensive than the Immersed Visor

  • @raeldor
    @raeldor 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Pricey, but they don't have an app store ecosystem to get money back so not surprising. Looking forward to the second video.

  • @HardArcher
    @HardArcher 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This needs to have eye tracking. I was considering buying one due to the DP connection and formfactor. But I already have ordered the Visor and the Play For Dreams MR which both have eye tracking and inside out tracking. Supposedly visor will have a thunderbolt connection which is higher bandwidth than DP1.4. Although I already have base stations and stream controllers, this product is a hard sell at that price. I will have to use its cost to go toward a new RTX 5090 instead.

  • @sherkhansher1981
    @sherkhansher1981 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What’s the refresh rate? 90Hz?

  • @joshhardin666
    @joshhardin666 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    before right this moment, I had never heard of meganex or their superlight 8k, but it sounds really impressive and I'd like to see and know more about it. are these final production models or prototypes that you are testing at this event? what kind of tracking / control system does it use? is it pc vr only or does it have an integrated computer? - what's the pass-through/MR camera situation? I want to know everything!

    • @ji3200
      @ji3200 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Its like valve Index. You need to buy kits

    • @joshhardin666
      @joshhardin666 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@ji3200 so does i use index base stations and controllers? (because I already own them)

  • @Nobody-Nowhere
    @Nobody-Nowhere วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Other than the lack of inside out tracking this design is the best i have yet to seen.
    I wonder at what resolutions does it run at, as it has no eye tracking for foveated transport and DP 1.4.

    • @beeniemanmakkaroni
      @beeniemanmakkaroni วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      DP 2.0 confirmened on RTX 5000...

    • @chadef555
      @chadef555 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      DP 1.4 isn't an issue. DSC allows to circumvent bandwidth limitation.

    • @Nobody-Nowhere
      @Nobody-Nowhere วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@chadef555 Ok, did not think about that. Makes sense as even at the combined resolution of 27.2MP its still less than what 8k is. So you might be able to just squeeze the 90hz out of it.

  • @ge2719
    @ge2719 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    "coated to prevent glare".. as the shot on screen has the lenses covered on face grease 😂

    • @mixedrealityTV
      @mixedrealityTV  8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The face grease is the coating! Haha! No more glare! But also no picture! ;)

  • @njdotson
    @njdotson 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I was wondering if 4k meant 2160x2160 or 3840x3840 but sharper than the apple vision pro is quite crazy. I know that one is pretty clear

  • @Dallas-eu5nz
    @Dallas-eu5nz 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Sebastian! could you please try to get the play for dream MR headset and put a review?

  • @Sacred-Lotus
    @Sacred-Lotus 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Its lack of eye tracking capability is a big concern.
    For stereoscopic rendering with *Dual 4K screen* , *forveated rendering* is a *MUST Have* , otherwise this HMD can render even a 4090 down to its knees, barely go past 60FPS (except for very simplistic scenes, you could easily push the pipeline past thousands of FPS with onky a box and a plane 😁). Rendering on Varjo HMD has already proven to be a daunting task for 4090 w/o forveated rendering (2880 x 2720 per Eye). Not to say 3840 x 3840 or 4320 x 4320. Lighthouse tracking is good despite many dislike its one time setup and additional base station costs. It allows *less circuitry & battery on your head* , much less latency, and much less error-prone than the inside-out camera based tracking. Keep HMD lighter and simpler.
    Lastly, the price *US$1899 Only for 1 Headset* without controllers, base stations, etc is kinda too luxrious for the majority (>97%) of casual VR gamers. 😅 Can't it be cheaper with lower resolution and higher refresh rate (>90Hz)?

  • @MutlerWheelz
    @MutlerWheelz 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I would only add eye tracking for me, only for quad view foveated rendering. I can't live without it now (sim for DCS)

  • @nerddeku9675
    @nerddeku9675 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The product is cool, but for this price it should at least have eye tracking. To be perfect it would have to have eye tracking + inside-out tracking. With both, it would be an excellent VR headset to carry around and perhaps use with a very powerful gaming notebook.

  • @_TommyP
    @_TommyP 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Been waiting for so long shiftall.....but 1899 USD???? :(

    • @sturmx96
      @sturmx96 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Reasonable price for a high tech design considering an inflation. In 2004 this device would cost $200-250.

  • @home-w8y
    @home-w8y วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Well done on bringing us this news, meganex was not really in the radar for me until this vid…. They should have paid for your flights at the very least !

  • @drgregvr3368
    @drgregvr3368 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    All also, what are the refresh rate options?

  • @Tomsgate101
    @Tomsgate101 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Love the form factor! Impressive resolution but no GPU will be able to make use of its capabilities for quite a while: I mean, render 2x4k at 72hz or more... no way. Not to mention the price. But it pushes the tech in the right direction, so kudos there!

    • @sturmx96
      @sturmx96 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      One gpu no, but 2 would be fine. A gpu for an eye. I mean this is the future, you can’t make gpus just bigger and bigger, there will be a moment when they’ll be sold in pairs.

  • @vroitwyrd
    @vroitwyrd 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I like the form factor, but having it rest on the forehead, even at its light weight, can give headaches. If it had eye tracking (likely unrealistic in the current gen micro -form factor) I would certainly be considering a pre-order. I need to see reviews.

  • @sturmx96
    @sturmx96 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Looks more like a military device. Looks nice.

  • @brendanmurphy3693
    @brendanmurphy3693 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Wow

  • @SonicCommenter
    @SonicCommenter 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It would have been worth the price if it had had inside out tracking and passthrough capability. Have to wait a couple of more years to replace the Quest 3.

  • @mcawesome4150
    @mcawesome4150 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    1:40 quest 3 has that too

  • @Racingfan101
    @Racingfan101 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Does it suffer like BSB from screens giving off heat warming your eyes which is annoying? If not that would be great

    • @ji3200
      @ji3200 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I had that problem too because of how thick custom face cushion is but this one is very thin like psvr 2 face cushion

    • @legendp2011
      @legendp2011 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      its 4k micro OLED, which is going to generate a fair bit of heat so would not surprise me

  • @mantisstyle1
    @mantisstyle1 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looks promising. Just to verify, the 6DoF lighthouse tracking was currently working as well? So you could shift your head up, down or to the side and the view would change appropriately?

  • @djblitz303
    @djblitz303 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Would this be better than the upcoming Pimax Super?

    • @ji3200
      @ji3200 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Im canceling pimax Super and preordered this today. Old Crystal was too damm heavy and uncomfortable and Super will be heavy too

  • @captainalex157
    @captainalex157 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Looks awesome, does it have inside out tracking and wireless vr capability?

  • @Vr-pits-simulation
    @Vr-pits-simulation 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Like to get info in the lenses and eye-relief?? without that, then it doesn't matter how good the specs are. Can you compare to the Quest3 lenses?

  • @AlexysRM
    @AlexysRM 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +21

    Future of VR? Nah, I'm so tired of sacrificing immersion and features for the sake of extra resolution or making it smaller.
    100 degree FoV? How are we 8 years into VR and going BACKWARDS on FoV??? We should be hitting 180 at the very least as a standard by now.
    No eye tracking?
    No face tracking?
    No hand tracking?
    No integrated audio?
    No wireless??
    Costs $1,900?
    Hard pass...

    • @Kurokishi-di8rv
      @Kurokishi-di8rv 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Most people who are into pc vr probably have good headset and base stations. And as for hand/face/eye tracking? Who needs that stuff anyway? I can understand eye tracking to be able to reduce to computational requirements but in my experience most games dont need that to run well, especially if you have a gaming pc. As for wireless, I have Quest 3 and I cant recall the last time I used its wireless features. It sucks ass and drops the resolution. the technology is not there yet

    • @TarkaZA
      @TarkaZA 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Eye tracking needs to become a standardized feature for something that sits on your eyes.

    • @yukihiroshishido8093
      @yukihiroshishido8093 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      This is there bare bones headset much like the BSB was going for, all these features add weight, the goal of these headsets are to make it as comfortable and light as possible. Varjo, Somnium, and Pimax all make HMDs with the features you were mentioning(wide FOV, face tracking, passthrough etc), at a similar price range, but these headsets are much bulkier and heavy. They are much more popular among the sim community as they generally play seated where wide FOV and other features trump form factor and weight. While the big screen is popular for those in VRChat wear comfort and ease of use is a more significant factor, although face tracking seems to be a more and more desired feature for social VR these days...

    • @yukihiroshishido8093
      @yukihiroshishido8093 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Kurokishi-di8rv I'd disagree, with the right router setup and a high-end PC using the av1 codec, the quest 3 wireless experience is quite exceptional.

  • @metalikmike1
    @metalikmike1 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    How does it compare to the Pimax Crystal Light?

  • @andreskinsella1317
    @andreskinsella1317 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If they do away with lighthouse tracking I might consider it