amazon is best place to order period. i order 100's of piles of stuff. zero issue returms and genuine parts. dont nuy used or opened box unless you dont mind risk.
Extremely custom I don’t think anyone would be doing what Jefus does love the build came out to be a one of a kind and to make the build perfect is those 8000mhz xmp sticks
That case is over 400 bucks, it should be premium. I just did a build in the Lian Li Vision. I thought the case was nice but I remember Ivan not liking it as much as the EVO
Smart idea splitting the loops between the two components. Power draw and heat generation has gotten so insane on these CPU and GPU combos ever since 5950X and 3090s.
Ek used to make a modular radiator cooler with integrated ddc pump. It came with 1/4 inch fittings and rubber hoses. So you could customize it with a different cpu block and change hose lengths and fittings. Product was called EK-MLC Phoenix. Not sure why they stopped selling them.
Had to saw off some of the plastic heat shield and half the lower heatsink on my z390 Dark board for my EKWB active backplate.. Did not feel good about it at all, but it's built for LN2, has been running just fine with the.. modifications, lol. Gotta do what ya gotta do! Super clean build, thanks for sharing! Gave a lot of food for thought on rebuilding my loop.
No Mora 420? Literally just building one for my already upgraded 14900KS system having received all the Mora bits today 🙂. Tested the fans on the Rad at full speed already and it's a lot quieter than the existing Noctua industrial fans.
Nice to see a new build. Not really sure if I am upgrading yet or not, 12900KF currently. That KS premium though is a lot, could see the 14900K(F) potentially at most for my ordinary gaming needs.
@FrameChasers Sick build big fan of the channel but, why did you elect to not use the ThermalRight contact frame for LGA 1700? It's basically free performance for only $20.
Update on my asus maximus rog formula z790 she stable all day at 7200mts and 8000mts i know you gave it a pretty raw review because asus lied about everyone being able to achieve 8000... well a couple bios updates and im telling all 16 pcie express lanes are nice to have.. you'll better stop being afraid to represent kf processors yall really miss out when you think the standard k is were its at obviously not whats your thoughts jufus....whats the apex encore topping out at and what kind of ddr5 you using... ill tell my crucialt700 nvme ssd 2tb..the reads and wriggt speeds 11,000 and 12,000 lock in that gen 5
but what is the random read/write speeds, which is what ur computer is doing 99% of the time, unless ur moving around movies all day, u will never see those speeds.
Jufes, i've been running a MSI MPG a1000g pcie5 PSU since the 4090 launched and it hasn't broken a sweat going through multiple 4090's and a max overclocked 13900ks. OEM is channel well tech, the same OEM Corsair uses but i'm sure you knew that. They are great power supplies.
@@FrameChasers Sadly mine does not have that feature but if I were to go with a higher wattage premium unit that would be the one for me. I came across a ton of articles on reddit of people complaining about the newer Be Quiet 1600w titaniums shutting people's breakers off lmao
NZXT H6 Flow is a better case tbh. Cutting up the motherboard? Just cut 45 degrees off the back rear fan where it hits the I/O shield, three screws holding the fan to to radiator much better then destroying the motherboard. Plus the H60 has two 140mm fans directly under the GPU for superior cooling if on air or water. Same dual chamber design and angled front fans that actually are positioned correctly to get cold air in, hot air out the top.
I've got 2 tec coolers and I do like it since I haven't got the budget for a custom loop but intel dropped the ball on the software and the hardware needed more range.
Amazing video how are The Thermals in this case if I'm just running a kraken x73 is it worth upgrading do this case from phanteks G500 thank you and keep up the amazing work
Hi Jufes, it is a granzon pump combo right? My humble advice is to be careful with the internal pressure, from time to time try to release it, as I have a pump of this brand and the internal seals broke under pressure.
If you need to use a Dremel tool, you should first check the dimensions of the components you plan to use. You didn't need a full tower case but a MEGA case. I am waiting for Part Two.
on full load my system uses around 500 watt i am definitely not buying these new systems until they find out how to lower the power usage while getting better performance.
@@user-vsmsdosI'm getting 6GHz all core, 6.3 on 2 cores with E Cores at 4.5Ghz and cache at 5.0 Ghz, and that's before tuning. CPU is 'luck of the draw' unless you can pick the best of a bunch 😢. Direct Die and the Mora might get me 6.1 all core for gaming which I'll be happy with.
@@ColinDyckes Yeah, I most certainly didn't get luck of the draw. I've gone direct die and get 60/45 as well, and my memory controller is enough to at least mostly stabilize 8000 XMP. Really, I wish I got a better memory controller over anything else....
hmmm no contact frame? stock ILM?...also surprised you didnt delid. Either way fucking thing is BEAUTIFUL! Congrats, much deserved bro. Cant wait to see the performance benchmarks
@bradleyhenry2411 Turn every setting up on Cyberpunk, Alen Wake 2 on 4k then ask that question. Games aren't getting easier, nor less optimized moving foward. Monitors are getting bigger and better, and almost everyone is moving to ultrawide oled. 2500 bucks better last at least 5 years..this 4090 isn't lasting 3 by the looks of it. Not only that..4090 is going for what....about 2k....5090 about 500 bucks more for 70% more performance....I'll take that all day.
@bradleyhenry2411 that's because noone was every competing in the first place. Amd will get passed by Intel in another couple of years. I bought a 7900xtx to replace my 3090 ti lc....almost the same card with higher clocks, same raytracing capabilities as well. I play on a Samsung g9 super ultrawide with a 13700k/4080....its nice don't get me wrong....but that's with frame generation, on dlss balanced. 5090 I can run the same setup with probably dlss quality and get about 70 frames. 4090...you need dlss, and frame generation still with path tracing on with everything cranked. Now they have a 57 inch samsung g9....mannn...OK. get a 4090 now when the 5090 is around October....you'll be wishing you didn't. Jefus has 5 4090s....so I can see why He did it...but normal people..building that same rig...just wait.
Instead of Liquid CPU cooler can i still go with air cooler? Looking to upgrade to the latest and good MOBO and cpu. Are the ones in the video future proof ? Any answer will be appreciated
everybody is so fixated on desktop tower boxes. Like it's the mainstay and there's no other options. Why not think outside the "box"?? literally. I've seen some nice setups on a simple rack where everything is in the open. This notion that you have to "have everything inside a box" in order for the air to funnel in a confined space and cool things quicker is horse hockey. That's like saying I have to wear a fir coat in the middle of summer to make the fans blowing up my sleeves work better. Big clunky boxes I think are going the way of the dodo. For travel, obviously a laptop for me, for work. But for at home? If I'm going to have a permanent setup, I'm going to make it a show piece. Expose the RGB parts. Also easier to clean...
Hi . Subambient or not ?? I am just remaking my old rig - performance on a budget. Pretty similar to the one in the video - but older gen and way cheaper (tied to the budget I have) . CPU - I have a 10900KF delided - Thermal Grizzly liquid metal thermal paste Cooling: 3x Cooler Master ML 360 AIO Cryo cooler - modified for custom loop : the TEC water block (modified the rubber seal - cut to fit the lower position for the delided CPU) - then 3x360mm rads + 9x120mm fans - 2x water pumps from the ML 360 cryo cooler in series + reservoir Motherboard : MSI Z490 Unify RAM : 4x8=32Gb Patriot 4400Hhz DDR4 (will be replaced with G-Skill 2x32Gb=64Gb Trident Z Royal Gold 4000Mhz) M.2 SSD: 980Pro 1Tb PSU: 1000w Corsair At the moment the CPU is running on 5.3Ghz all cores with a NZXT 73x 360mm AIO - on delided CPU I am hoping to get that i9-10900k to 5.4Ghz - 5.5Ghz all cores. For fewer cores can go up to 5.7-5.8Ghz ---- not sure if I should keep the NZXT water block and no subambient cooling with this setup / or better go with Peltier cooling regulated with the Intel cryo (by the way - for Peltier cooling - that will be powered by a separate motherboard i5-4690 switched on BEFORE the main rig - to get to subambient the i9-10900k on startup - this way I can set the overclock main rig within BIOS - by design the s***tty Intel Cryo software only can start with Windows)
Based on his recommended parts list. It's likely Teamgroup A-die with what looks like Bitspower heatsinks. It's definitely not worth the $500-$600 USD price tag.
@@bradleyhenry2411 I think the stuff is way overpriced... like other "parts" on the website, as apex mobo etc - it's not like they're binned or something... but yeah, there are ppl out there who are willing to pay two or three times more the amazon price thinking that they got some good binned stuff
My oldest system running amd 3950x and a rx5700xt from saphire, is running every game at 1440p in 120+ fps. I did buy a new system, but it doesnt do anything my oldest system cant do. Its like buying a bugatti, 1200 hp, 250+mph but you can only 60-80mph because the system only supports those speeds. Its a complete waste of money.
I go to Amazon for the prices but i come here for the FRAMES!
Hahahahaha
amazon is best place to order period. i order 100's of piles of stuff. zero issue returms and genuine parts. dont nuy used or opened box unless you dont mind risk.
GOTEM!
What a beast, as beautiful as powerful, a real Frame Chaser, thank you Jufes for the content
I love that we saw down 700 dollar motherboards on this channel because we can
My initial impression wtf 9 degrees!!! Lol i was in awe
This is one of the nicest builds I've ever seen. Good stuff man. I dont know how you carried this Big Beast up a Flight of stairs. Its insane!
I ain't upgrading until we reach 10GHz base clocks. Get on with it Intel.
3kWh
bruhhhhh lol hahahahaha holy shiet man 10ghz though , I dont blame u bro.😂
@@iLegionaire3755Good one😂
I love that you always have a cameo of your cat! I am a cat person too 😼
Extremely custom I don’t think anyone would be doing what Jefus does love the build came out to be a one of a kind and to make the build perfect is those 8000mhz xmp sticks
That case is over 400 bucks, it should be premium. I just did a build in the Lian Li Vision. I thought the case was nice but I remember Ivan not liking it as much as the EVO
Very nice looking build, doesn't looks and perform like others aquarium build 👌
The cat is the best part of the video
That is a very lifelike cat game where do I download it?
Smart idea splitting the loops between the two components. Power draw and heat generation has gotten so insane on these CPU and GPU combos ever since 5950X and 3090s.
Ek used to make a modular radiator cooler with integrated ddc pump. It came with 1/4 inch fittings and rubber hoses. So you could customize it with a different cpu block and change hose lengths and fittings. Product was called EK-MLC Phoenix. Not sure why they stopped selling them.
If you can't compete, you know it's because you didn't use your dremel when you built your PC. Now you know!
are you really building a PC If you aren't busting out the angle grinder?
Had to saw off some of the plastic heat shield and half the lower heatsink on my z390 Dark board for my EKWB active backplate.. Did not feel good about it at all, but it's built for LN2, has been running just fine with the.. modifications, lol. Gotta do what ya gotta do! Super clean build, thanks for sharing! Gave a lot of food for thought on rebuilding my loop.
dude this build looks sexy af
Awesome build man. Looks so good.
dudes getin jacked
He was like "what is the next thing I can overclock..." and then he looked at the mirror ;)
@@selvagem123 LOL
remember OC yourself till you become the dude a girl tells her boyfriend not to worry about
He's super close to Borat
That case is ridiculous! Such a gorgeous build.
No vertical GPU mount hurts my soul on any custom looped rig
Build looks great man! How hard is that to fill/drain? Cant wait for the optane content!
it takes about 2 hours of letting it run to get all the air bubbles out which is a little annoying but I think its worth it in the end
The absolute most wise words ever spoken. " I just want my shit to work". Undoubtably epic,
Nothing beats a good test bench, PC cases are nightmares
I've been enjoying a 14900K, all p-cores at 6200 with e-cores disabled. Using an old school phase change cooler.
Great video man. Had no idea radiators were available with the pump/resovoir combo. Like the two color loops.
Boot times on optane are nuts, also super responsive
No Mora 420? Literally just building one for my already upgraded 14900KS system having received all the Mora bits today 🙂. Tested the fans on the Rad at full speed already and it's a lot quieter than the existing Noctua industrial fans.
Nice to see a new build. Not really sure if I am upgrading yet or not, 12900KF currently. That KS premium though is a lot, could see the 14900K(F) potentially at most for my ordinary gaming needs.
asus should let you set the fan speed based on the water temperature which would result in a more steady fan speed.
I have the 1000w version of that MSI and its been rock solid.
I don't even care, I love it when someone gets to build a PC for themselves! Always exciting! Grats!
Sick build mate. Love the channel.
The blue - intel and green - nVidea was clean!
Nice build brother.
Have you tested the FE 4090?? I sense those are great binned, maybe not all of them but nvidia bins their chips prior to selling the rest ;)
@FrameChasers Sick build big fan of the channel but, why did you elect to not use the ThermalRight contact frame for LGA 1700? It's basically free performance for only $20.
1.1v is almost unseen on most of the locked .7v 4090’s vast majority, that extra .3v gives you extra 50mhz on core
Update on my asus maximus rog formula z790 she stable all day at 7200mts and 8000mts i know you gave it a pretty raw review because asus lied about everyone being able to achieve 8000... well a couple bios updates and im telling all 16 pcie express lanes are nice to have.. you'll better stop being afraid to represent kf processors yall really miss out when you think the standard k is were its at obviously not whats your thoughts jufus....whats the apex encore topping out at and what kind of ddr5 you using... ill tell my crucialt700 nvme ssd 2tb..the reads and wriggt speeds 11,000 and 12,000 lock in that gen 5
but what is the random read/write speeds, which is what ur computer is doing 99% of the time, unless ur moving around movies all day, u will never see those speeds.
He's using his own ram that he made
I love your logic man! Best hardware dude on line period!
You should simply run a testbench doodist, with very thick rads 60mm and quiet 140mm fans. : )
Jufes, i've been running a MSI MPG a1000g pcie5 PSU since the 4090 launched and it hasn't broken a sweat going through multiple 4090's and a max overclocked 13900ks. OEM is channel well tech, the same OEM Corsair uses but i'm sure you knew that. They are great power supplies.
yeah i'm really digging the monitoring software, it would be interesting in power supply tuning became a thing in the future
I want to buy a processor, and which one would you recommend as an expert, 13900ks or 14900ks?@@FrameChasers 🤔
@@FrameChasers Sadly mine does not have that feature but if I were to go with a higher wattage premium unit that would be the one for me. I came across a ton of articles on reddit of people complaining about the newer Be Quiet 1600w titaniums shutting people's breakers off lmao
Huge tease with that 9 series Optane drive.
NZXT H6 Flow is a better case tbh.
Cutting up the motherboard? Just cut 45 degrees off the back rear fan where it hits the I/O shield, three screws holding the fan to to radiator much better then destroying the motherboard.
Plus the H60 has two 140mm fans directly under the GPU for superior cooling if on air or water.
Same dual chamber design and angled front fans that actually are positioned correctly to get cold air in, hot air out the top.
That’s incredible that you can keep that gpu so cool
Bro....That thing is unreal!
What's the next flagship CPU with integrated graphics from Intel and AMD?
I'm thinking of getting a harness for my cat too, lots of wildlife where I live
Build looks freaking awesome man!
Pc and loop is Nice 🤝
Will you test the Klevv Cras 5 8400 ?
Great build.
I've got 2 tec coolers and I do like it since I haven't got the budget for a custom loop but intel dropped the ball on the software and the hardware needed more range.
Amazing video how are The Thermals in this case if I'm just running a kraken x73 is it worth upgrading do this case from phanteks G500 thank you and keep up the amazing work
Very shexy build mate. Love this vids, keep em coming :)
Hi Jufes, it is a granzon pump combo right? My humble advice is to be careful with the internal pressure, from time to time try to release it, as I have a pump of this brand and the internal seals broke under pressure.
why asus in a limited edition msi case, WHYYY???
If you need to use a Dremel tool, you should first check the dimensions of the components you plan to use. You didn't need a full tower case but a MEGA case. I am waiting for Part Two.
on full load my system uses around 500 watt
i am definitely not buying these new systems until they find out how to lower the power usage while getting better performance.
What SP did your KS end up being? Mine is garbo at 104 I believe.
Probably the E Cores dragging it down. Mine has overall SP of 103, but P Core SP is a pretty good 117, E Core SP is 76, and MC SP is a good 86.
@@ColinDyckes Mine was like 115/83/ MCSP 76. pretty bad
@@user-vsmsdosI'm getting 6GHz all core, 6.3 on 2 cores with E Cores at 4.5Ghz and cache at 5.0 Ghz, and that's before tuning. CPU is 'luck of the draw' unless you can pick the best of a bunch 😢. Direct Die and the Mora might get me 6.1 all core for gaming which I'll be happy with.
@@ColinDyckes Yeah, I most certainly didn't get luck of the draw. I've gone direct die and get 60/45 as well, and my memory controller is enough to at least mostly stabilize 8000 XMP. Really, I wish I got a better memory controller over anything else....
hmmm no contact frame? stock ILM?...also surprised you didnt delid. Either way fucking thing is BEAUTIFUL! Congrats, much deserved bro. Cant wait to see the performance benchmarks
It is delidded, and you can not use contact frame with TEC
15:00 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Granzon stuff is really cool.
man that's TIGHT! but Mooom...
good kitty going for a good walk
Dremels and super high end PC parts, lets go 👍
Like for the Kitty! Oh yeah, the computer is pretty cool too…
Sung jinwoo your PC is ready my lord!
Can’t compete if you aren’t using a dremel in one hand and frame chasers ram in the other
I am surprised you have never mentioned any cases by Phanteks
I'd honestly waited for the 5090...other than that...great build.
What's the point in a 5090? Nothing is even close to the 4090 yet. 😂
@bradleyhenry2411 Turn every setting up on Cyberpunk, Alen Wake 2 on 4k then ask that question. Games aren't getting easier, nor less optimized moving foward. Monitors are getting bigger and better, and almost everyone is moving to ultrawide oled. 2500 bucks better last at least 5 years..this 4090 isn't lasting 3 by the looks of it. Not only that..4090 is going for what....about 2k....5090 about 500 bucks more for 70% more performance....I'll take that all day.
@elvertmack5039 I get that. But there's still no existing GPUs to compete right now. I can't see one competing for at least 2 years.
@bradleyhenry2411 that's because noone was every competing in the first place. Amd will get passed by Intel in another couple of years. I bought a 7900xtx to replace my 3090 ti lc....almost the same card with higher clocks, same raytracing capabilities as well. I play on a Samsung g9 super ultrawide with a 13700k/4080....its nice don't get me wrong....but that's with frame generation, on dlss balanced. 5090 I can run the same setup with probably dlss quality and get about 70 frames. 4090...you need dlss, and frame generation still with path tracing on with everything cranked. Now they have a 57 inch samsung g9....mannn...OK. get a 4090 now when the 5090 is around October....you'll be wishing you didn't. Jefus has 5 4090s....so I can see why He did it...but normal people..building that same rig...just wait.
My next cpu project would be to build something like this. lol.
love the build so F clean
Jufes : this useless Also Jufes I'll use it anyway ... LOL I love this guy !
Just in time to bench against Zen5...
This is insane i will never be able to afford this
Instead of Liquid CPU cooler can i still go with air cooler? Looking to upgrade to the latest and good MOBO and cpu. Are the ones in the video future proof ? Any answer will be appreciated
@@kojony_ yes but will be trickier to tune, join the discord if you have questions
Looks sick!
Man after this i9 kills the 7800x3d can you try beat the 7800x3d with like a fully overclocked i5 13600kf surely it comes close if not do the i7 maby
What about the 7800x3D?
Bet it can run Tetris pretty smooth.
everybody is so fixated on desktop tower boxes. Like it's the mainstay and there's no other options. Why not think outside the "box"?? literally. I've seen some nice setups on a simple rack where everything is in the open. This notion that you have to "have everything inside a box" in order for the air to funnel in a confined space and cool things quicker is horse hockey. That's like saying I have to wear a fir coat in the middle of summer to make the fans blowing up my sleeves work better. Big clunky boxes I think are going the way of the dodo. For travel, obviously a laptop for me, for work. But for at home? If I'm going to have a permanent setup, I'm going to make it a show piece. Expose the RGB parts. Also easier to clean...
U might wanna check 1 of his previous videos a year or 2 ago when he made a build for Mutex bro 👍
Any plans on delidding this bad boy? I have 14900KS as well and was wondering if it's worth it.
already delidded
I wanna know where you got that 120mm rad pump I have been looking forever for something like that
Is there any difference about stability for 2x16 or 2x24?
jufus what was the red stuff you put around the gpu socket to protect the liquid metal from getting out
What’s the lighting underneath the graphics card? Is there a place to buy that?
Fans should have been the industrial Noctua 3000rpm ones. I mean, you want "the best" right 😁
Also, 1300w....cmon, 1600w PSU or bust my dude
#FAFO
Looks great 👍
What day was this released on?
friggin gorgeous!
Hi . Subambient or not ?? I am just remaking my old rig - performance on a budget. Pretty similar to the one in the video - but older gen and way cheaper (tied to the budget I have) .
CPU - I have a 10900KF delided - Thermal Grizzly liquid metal thermal paste
Cooling: 3x Cooler Master ML 360 AIO Cryo cooler - modified for custom loop : the TEC water block (modified the rubber seal - cut to fit the lower position for the delided CPU) - then 3x360mm rads + 9x120mm fans - 2x water pumps from the ML 360 cryo cooler in series + reservoir
Motherboard : MSI Z490 Unify
RAM : 4x8=32Gb Patriot 4400Hhz DDR4 (will be replaced with G-Skill 2x32Gb=64Gb Trident Z Royal Gold 4000Mhz)
M.2 SSD: 980Pro 1Tb
PSU: 1000w Corsair
At the moment the CPU is running on 5.3Ghz all cores with a NZXT 73x 360mm AIO - on delided CPU
I am hoping to get that i9-10900k to 5.4Ghz - 5.5Ghz all cores. For fewer cores can go up to 5.7-5.8Ghz
---- not sure if I should keep the NZXT water block and no subambient cooling with this setup / or better go with Peltier cooling regulated with the Intel cryo (by the way - for Peltier cooling - that will be powered by a separate motherboard i5-4690 switched on BEFORE the main rig - to get to subambient the i9-10900k on startup - this way I can set the overclock main rig within BIOS - by design the s***tty Intel Cryo software only can start with Windows)
i cant believe intel's mounting solution for the optane. wtf is that?
I'd love to build something like this but too poor 💀 gotta hold my 9900k 2070 super pc
Good work 👏👏
HOW do you fill the loops like that with no rez?
A true beast! ❤️🔥🙌🤘
13:57 BADASS!
Fucking great build and video
what's this framechasers memory after all? is it like a cheap green bulk stuff with SPD overwritten or the originals are some kind of G.Skill stuff?
Based on his recommended parts list. It's likely Teamgroup A-die with what looks like Bitspower heatsinks. It's definitely not worth the $500-$600 USD price tag.
@@koford 😂 his kit is probably only useful on apex or tachyon mobos.
@@bradleyhenry2411 I think the stuff is way overpriced... like other "parts" on the website, as apex mobo etc - it's not like they're binned or something... but yeah, there are ppl out there who are willing to pay two or three times more the amazon price thinking that they got some good binned stuff
the man the myth the legend
How hard was it to fill that loop without a res?
My oldest system running amd 3950x and a rx5700xt from saphire, is running every game at 1440p in 120+ fps. I did buy a new system, but it doesnt do anything my oldest system cant do. Its like buying a bugatti, 1200 hp, 250+mph but you can only 60-80mph because the system only supports those speeds. Its a complete waste of money.