My father took me to see Alien in '79 at age 11. It was my first R rated movie😳😬, which was great, untill he took my brother who was 6! My dad died a few months ago. RIP dad. 🙏 Thanks for inspiring a lifelong love of science fiction.
That's the power of cinema too. Having memories with people we love sharing movie moments. My dad showed me Alien as a kid and it's something we always watch together. Sorry for your loss.
I am a 15 year old who went to go see this movie with a large group of friends of mine. Out of all of the friends, I was the only one to ever see any alien movies, with me being a very big fan of the movies. Not only did this movie make me super excited and happy (and scared) while watching, it made every single one of those friends feel the exact same way I did (especially in the last 15 minutes) even though they didn’t know anything about alien or the franchise, convincing them to watch all the other movies, I think that the future is bright for the alien franchise.
Congratulations young man. Be sure to welcome all your friends into the lore and universe. One of the best ways to ensure we fans continue to get new stories in the "Alien" universe is to bring in new fans.
This is a terrible movie. It should of never been made! A complete waste and time of creatives. They should of made a movie of Alien Isolation and not this utter garbage. I watched it all in one sitting and I am appalled at the lack of foresight. There is NOTHING good about this film other than its a hook to get peoples money. They are trying to secure that Gen X demographic. I am so glad i watched it on a skuzzy pirate copy because if I had seen this at the cinema I would of torched the place!
@@whiterabbit1632 dude idk what movie you watched but the one I watched was great 😭 me and all of my friends agree even after a second viewing, sure it’s not a masterpiece like alien or aliens but it’s better than anything else we have gotten in a long time (besides isolation)
@@aldoernesto4938 we actually went to the theatres again last night after they watched alien and aliens and they still love it, so do I as a dedicated fan of 10 years
@@Eren-cy6ln To be fair, I don't think Ripley was ever supposed to have killed it in the original. The original film treats Big Chap as basically indestructible, so the best she could do was getting it away from her.
And all the member berries and the blatant and shameless copying is not too hard? Atleast it is a cool, original idea, which cannot be said for the rest of the movie. Out of anything they rudely resurrected, it would have been the best idea, not all the lines, the late actor's resemblance (just feels bad and distasteful in general), the 'borrowed' plots, etc.
I was watching a science doc, one of those shitty American ones. And everytime a scientist said the temp in Celsius the narrator would say, "that's a whopping ### in farenheit"
I absolutely loved the quiet opening sequence. The ship waking up in deep space.. and all the retro technology coming to life…. Felt like a strict sequel to Alien.
Definitely agree. Romulus feels very much like Fede fan sequel to Alien while also maybe trying to be a soft remake? I wonder if Romulus began life as an Alien remake and eventually morphed into a pseudo sequel.
The opening sequence made no sense at all, the original Xenomorph wouldn’t be anywhere near the Nostromo and the ship was destroyed in 3 nuclear explosions so how would the ship’s nameplate survive… ❓This took me out of the movie as it was starting and it just went downhill from there, ending in a terrible homage to Alien Resurrection…. 🤬
@@olly7248 yea, that was so weird. I suppose its not as bad as the unexplained egg being on the Sulaco for Alien 3. I buy more into this Romulus setup than that mess. I wish the source alien the WeyYu people stumble on was something related to the Covenant ship that David was doing experiments on (or maybe checking on on where Walter was on the engineer home world).
I'm a 37 year old fan of this franchise. I got into these movies when I was 7 by sneaking out at night to watch my parent's VHS copy of it. It fucking terrified me. As a middle school teacher, one of my students told me they saw this opening night. They are 12 years old. I asked them what they thought and they responded, "The ending scared the crap out of me and I haven't been able to sleep since. I don't know why I thought I could see this in the theater." This is what it's all about folks. He loved it but it scared the ever loving shit out of him. If that isn't a win for this franchise then I don't know what it.
@@lisachaffee2946 Sorry to break it you but it was adults hiding under their chairs that made Alien such a powerful and successful movie, not 12 yr olds or 9 yr olds, unless you think it was kids taking their parents to the cinema.
I’m going to argue it’s not actually a film for kids? The original alien is sci fi suspense horror and what made it so terrifying was the clever way the script was written along with the conservative peekaboo shots. It was also unusual for having a female protagonist which is only revealed towards the end of the film - Ripley was extremely empowering as very few films portray such a strong female character. It’s a lot more than just a scary film - unfortunately I can’t see that Romulus did anything new but just tried to thread all the films together and include so many references it comes across like a fanfiction
@@danielwoods3563That’s not what he’s saying. You’ve clearly missed the point. He’s saying what he experienced when he saw the original. I was 12 when Alien came to tv in the uk. And it practically traumatized me. It’s now my favourite movie of all time. I’ve met a few people over the years who saw Alien when they were too young. But obviously it was successful at the box office due to adults.
Agree. The line as it stands just makes no sense. Why would Andy use the Ripley line? The reason that Ripley uses it is because she’s fighting the alien Queen, and links to the theme of motherhood running through Aliens. There’s absolutely no need or reason for Andy to use that line, other than a lazy nod, nod, wink, wink to the audience - which is one of the many tiresome references in Romulus
I personally think bringing back Big Chap as an actuala villain would've been pointless fan service, which the film already had too much of. It wouldn't have been cool at all to me, just feel like a "somehow Palpatine returned" thing.
But the entire film is just pointless call backs to other films? It did nothing original, having the big chap there was pointless, same with the Ian Holmes likeness, it could of been any xeno and any android. It was just all pointless dumb call backs
"Somehow Palpatine returned"? Somehow? Yeah, well you explain that to the families of all the fired dark scientists in Weyland-Yutani's Dark Science Division that you want to shut down.
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one bothered by the gestation period and the such rapid growth of the Xenomorph. Considering that they reveal that there are tons more xenos later.. they could've honestly had another check the ship out or something, give the gestation time to not feel so rushed.
Like he said, there has never been consistency through all the alien material with it taking any amount of time they want it to. This isn't the first time it's happened quickly.
The callbacks were a negative for me too, it smacked of studio interference to me so im surprised to hear that it was Fede's idea. There were plenty of great moments in the script, leaning on an old quote just undermines ones own movie as if they can't do their own thing.
Personally I love that Rook is basically a good guy, until he realizes the mission hasn’t failed. Like, he’s immediately trying to warn them. Even his initial “attack” is him warning them, but he’s broken. When hooked up to the ship, he can communicate, and immediately tells them everything - including the right thing to do. Genuinely the right thing. He doesn’t hide that there’s xenomorphs. Doesn’t hide what happens when you get facehugged. Doesn’t lie about the odds of survival. He tells them immediately that the best thing they can do is mercy-kill their friend. He tells them immediately all they can do is run. His only “villainous” act is telling Andy to kill Navarro - which isn’t so much villainy, as good logic. Killing her is a mercy that would have saved the rest of them. He only becomes an antagonist once he accesses the computer to check on the goo’s integrity (it was really dumb he had to type it though, he’s literally hooked up to the same system).
I heard the reason Ian Holm turned down Alien: Isolation Crew Expendable was because he was busy doing scenes for The Hobbit as Old Bilbo at the time. It would've been around the same time Alien: Isolation was in development
When I was in the theatre watching, I also felt like the implantation/birth of Navarro's happened too fast - but when the chestburster came, it's eruption seemed less energetic and more labored. In my head I sort of justified it as maybe the creature was premature: it had sensed all the outside happening as a threat and hurried up too quickly - then later spent more time in the cocoon after molting maybe.
Yeah, chestbursters in the past have jumped out and taken off in a jiffy due to how vulnerable they are. One in this movie would have been dead instantly if Bjorn/Kay werent knocked out and could hammer it quickly
I think the movie itself justifies this though. They pulled the facehugger off quickly, and this resulted in the chestburster being born prematurely. The facehugger couldn't finish preparing the embryo for birth.
Yes there is. You must have not noticed how the ex’s cousin kept attacking Andy with verbal insults and slanders, several times calling him a bitch. Well, the android processed that and realized how such a term is used. And then used it on the alien. You’re welcome.
@@raheeb1not so much. Remember in Terminator when the T-800 said “Hasta la vista, baby” to the T-1000, but there was not only a scene of him being taught those phrases but also practicing them? That’s proper set-up and payoff. it was never set up that Andy used those terms. Ever. Had he cursed just one time before uttering that phrase it would’ve made sense.
@@damienburke4996thx but I disagree still. The AI in Andy took being called a bitch multiple times and figured out its use and it made the decision it’s appropriate to dish out on the alien that was posing a prolonged threat to her. Maybe you are thinking of it from the point of view of the robot getting emotional after its kill of the alien but Andy showed throughout that he absolutely made emotional statements and reactions. So it makes sense and also I think very welcomed by 9/10 fans!
If there's a sequel perhaps they’ll show more restraint when it comes to re-using lines and characters from previous films. I hope that the sequel maintains the tone and overall tension present in Romulus but charts its own course. When it comes to new creature designs maybe they could pull ideas from the comics and show us the xenomorph king or something else never before seen on movie screens.
First half of the movie was good. I liked the world building & the style, but then it became a "best of" with complete lines & scenes from the older movies & that took me out. Like "oh he's showing her how the pulse rifle works, like hicks showed Ripley. Elevator escape like Ripley with Newt. The main character gets in the space suit for the final face off. Oh the Newborn but taller thinner & with an engineer head. Aaaand it gets sucked out like in Resurrection." And there was so much more, at least 3 quotes copied in 1:1. So disappointing, because it started so well & promising. I did root for Andy & Rain though, but I didn't care for the other characters at all 😂
@AkiTerry the film was shot chronologically. It's like the execs saw half way through in dailies that they actually had a hit then started to add "THEIR IDEAS"
One of the joys of the first film was 'who will survive?" no one had a clue it would be Ripley. This film from the very first moments it was clear that 'Rain" would be the final girl. It would have added an extra twist to have say one of the English dudes survive and not her, no one would have seen that coming.
The facehugger part actually bothers me the least. We discussed this after the movie came out. We finally agreed on the theory that, ideally, the facehugger implants, and latches on, keeping the host quiet, contained and safer while the chest buster gestates. If the facehugger is removed, crucially, before it properly latches on,, I’d argue it’s releasing amino acids (or something) to tell the egg to activate it’s quicker gestation emergency option. The fact we’re enjoying talking about it makes it a big recommendation from us, both OG fans.
When not under duress, the face hugger seems to take it sweet time, agreed, having someone figure out how to get it off put it into panic mode and it fired off it's egg, and probably a dose of growth accelerator hormones to get tge chestburster ready fast before they can get rid of it too. That's my headcannon at least, in ideal conditions it can take the slow route like in the original movie
Yeah I could see it having some kinda rush mode for gestation, some kind of stress hormone that makes the Xeno develop quicker so it can defend the hive would make total sense, perhaps it results in a slightly stunted Xeno as a consequence.
It was dumb, as a huge fan, as with any life it needs time to gestate and feed of the host, giger was clearly inspired by parasitic wasps for this part of the life cycle, which lay eggs on in live hosts, they hatch into pupai, feed on the host, avoiding vital organs to keep it alive as long as possible, before breaching through the host.
Im glad someone finally mentioned Kay's scream. Im happy it was muted for the trailer, cus it hits so hard when you hear it in the theater. Definitely one of my favorite moments of the movie.
Man she annoyed the hell out of me. She’s just a plot device that adds nothing to the script other than “stare wide eyed, scream, and make over exaggerated pain noises!” I honestly have no idea why the hell they brought her along, she served absolutely no purpose.
@vince_c you completely missed the point. That's all she was good for. Whether the scream was warranted or not in that FICTIONAL situation, as a film device, she's pretty much a stereotypical annoyance.
@@phantomform4171 she’s a massive plot contrivance. She serves no actual meaningful purpose to the story except to move the plot along. Gets captured by the Xeno for no other purpose other than so they can go into the nest and find her. And then oh no! Somehow she’s not comparable as a host for a facehugger but the Xenos kept her alive anyways so the third act can happen. Useless character. Why she was even brought along as part of the crew is beyond me. She has no skills other than looking like a frightened mouse
"I prefer artificial person" and "you have my sympathies" i feel get a pass since its androids saying lines from others androids. Rook definetly doesn't seem far off from Ash and that makes it feel like the lines are programmed, makes it feel even colder tbh.
Because thematically it’s all the sweeter later on. He doesn’t go out with a smirk on his face though s time. And the repeated line really makes it “this time” by showing he’s just an extension of the company and more or less a duplicate down to his behavior and mannerisms.
This is the movie that, in my eyes, justifies Prometheus' existence. Romulus was able to reconcile the lore of Prometheus with the lore of the OG Alien movie. Perfectly. I also recognized the brief nods to the video game, Alien: Isolation - the save station can be seen in one scene, and the way they had to pump a handle and then press a button to open a door, just like in the game. Not to mention the air vents. I just hope that they don't drag Fede Alvarez away to make Alien vs Predator movies, because those types of films are going to be really hard to get right. And if his reputation is tarnished by a flop, they might not greenlight a sequel to Romulus with him at the helm.
@@PatrickOMulligan Did I stutter? Yes, I said perfectly. Which is more than what you said as a counter argument. They were able to incorporate the black goo into the franchise in a way that doesn't ruin the original lore. But instead it makes better. Audiences that have seen the film have said that the whole sequence with the Offspring was fucked up, but in a good way. Some young women even said that it put the fear of child-birth into them because of how horrifying that particular scene was. I know the film has some detractors. But they can pound sand. Romulus was a certified good film that was also generally well received by audiences and critics. And that is a combination that we haven't seen since 19-modafukin-86. So yeah, perfectly 👌
@@PatrickOMulligan Man, I just read your other replies on this channel and you're just hating on the film. And I couldn't help to notice that you follow Piers Morgan. A troll who follows a troll.
as much as I'm mixed on the prequels I love how the door is now open to crazy hybrids and genetic monstrosities that push the horror of the xenomorph even further into more shocking territory.
I hope they do do a Alien Vs Predator movie Your logic makes no sense Every single Alien movie has been profitable why would it flop when it has a massive fanbase
I wish they would have subverted the final girl trope and had Rain offed in the middle. Have the punk kid take the lead overcome his predjudice with Andy and had an arc for a character.
He's built on logic. It made no sense for him to tell a dead xenomorph to get away from anyone. If he was to say anything at all, it should have been to simply ask Rain if she was ok. They just had to cheese it. One of the worst moments in the film.
Just watching this now and haven't finished, but hold up a sec... Hold up! If big chap survived the vacuum of space then does that mean the Queen who got spaced in the second film survived as well?!
It does mean that and the premise has been mentioned before. Collectively, fans have figured that xenomorphs don't need oxygen to live, so the first two films left the endings open for the creatures.
I think James Cameron said that the Sulaco was still orbiting LV-426, so she burnt up in the atmosphere like an asteroid coming in. I had that same thought as well tho😂
The Queen was ejected downward from the Sulaco at high speed while the ship was still in obit of the planet. Aliens are very durable, but it would seem unlikely that she could survive atmospheric reentry.
Sure, why not, shit as far as this movie goes all of the eggs and aliens got ejected from LV426 out into space and are still there. It's a virtual farm out there.
I thought instead of the final girl finale, they should have had all the main characters killed off and the science lab actually crashes back down on the mining colony infecting everyone on the planet. Kinda like seeing what happend to the colony in Aliens. It would be a dark and intense ending seeing all the chaos unfold. And if you wanted to leave it open ended, where hollywood can now tell a new story about a survivor down below trying to get away
the one thing i love so much about this movie is more alien biology. we finally get to see how a chestburster grows into a full adult xenomorph with a perfectly designed cocoon that's some what similar to how humans get turned into ovamorphs, love that they show how intelligent the xenomorphs are when either killing or luring prey (one of my favorite scenes is when the scorched alien was waiting for them to open the door to get them all but then decided to just take the girl when she knew they wouldn't). to be honest almost all the confrontations with the aliens, off spring included, were amazing to see but there are a good amount of alien scenes i wasn't happy with but i won't go any further this comment isn't a review of the movie. i am a big nerd in the biology and functions of monsters and the xenomorph is by far my favorite monster to study. also the protomorph in covenant is the best xenomorph design no discission.
I got 2 popcorn buckets when my kids and I went to see it. After the movie I saw a guy looking at me holding them and he made a face like “oh many you got them before they sold out!”… so I gave one away to a total stranger who said he is a big fan of the Alien movies. I think I made his day even better, he was so excited and said he’s planing to make a display with it and Predator characters 😮
I went and saw Deadpool 3 and the theater was selling the buckets before Alien was released. First I was just going to buy the cup with alien on the lid. I ended up buying the alien head and the face hugger popcorn containers as well as the cup.
I'll just say, I'm 50, I saw all the movies except Alien in the theater. Aliens is my favorite film of all time. There was a young man sitting next to us in Romulus. He sat forward in his chair on the edge of his seat as soon as the engineer baby thing appeared. That's the sort of thrill I got from watching Alien and Aliens. I did not get that sense of thrill from Romulus or any of the other movies, while I did still love a few of them. I would love to have that thrill coming from this Universe again. Maybe next time, and I realize that young man on the edge of his seat at Romulus did get that, so Romulus can't be all that bad, and I need to see it a few more times to see if I can see what he did ;)
In comparison: How many movies of running around in circles on a spacestation or ship with a liitle horror could you produce without repeating yourself (like romulus die reapeat resurrection) ... Or you open the franchise like Prometeus did. Creating endless space for new movies, series and co. with endless oppotunitys to tell each fact of this really cool alien universe. David could have had his own movie, like The Joker for example, kind of psycho thriller and there would be even more space for real horror pictures and a great stories. The life or structure of the WY companie has so much potential for any kind of real thoughful stories. Whats with the engegniers and all the other endless connections ... You get the my point. Well if not. I will tell you anyways: With this movie aliens died, if they dont dig deeper in the real story and meanings. Alien resurrection did the same thing with much better ideas and pictures.
Aliens is my favourite movie of all-time too. Respect. I didn't get to see it in the theatre (or Alien), saw it on VHS when I was 16, absolutely loved it! Alien I saw on tv when I was 10, loved it too, it's my 5th favourite movie of all-time. "I like to keep this handy...for close encounters." "I heard that!"
@@pjs1975101 Lol, yeah, me too. I ended up buying two VHS of the Theatrical Cut, three of the Special Edition, a DVD, then on DVD as part of the original box set, then the Alien: Quadilogy box set. I still want to get the 4K version of Alien and Aliens. I can't watch the Theatrical Cut of Aliens anymore, as I miss the scene of Ripley finding out about her daughter, Amanda (the one scene Cameron should've left in the original release), Hudson's 'Ultimate Badass' monologue and the Sentry Gun sequences too much, lol. "We're on an express elevator to Hell! Going down!"
The speed bursting is always the thing I have issue with. People say a few hours in the OG alien as Kane is out on the ship for a while, but you also have to factor in the time they spent retrieving and dragging him all the way back to the ship. that would have taken a long time too. Same in Aliens, Newts mum must have taken a long time dragging a huge guy all the way back to the tractor. If these life cycle speeds were in those movies they would have popped before they even left the derelict.
I would say more then a few hours with Kane in the OG. Had to haul him back to the ship, after that they get the suit off of him, do a full medical analysis, then however much time was spent after that before it came off, wakes up on his own, makes it to dinner. Better part of a day from initial contact to the full on chestburst atleast
I agree with you - I wish the bursting were more consistent and the difference of time between Kane waking up and his death and Navarro waking up and her death is insane. But for an attempt to explain, maybe the host’s endocrine profile and metabolism has something to do with it? Kane woke up, minding his business, not a care in the world except getting something to eat and going back into cryo. Navarro woke up in a hellish life or death scenario, with adrenaline and cortisol pumping at max, then full on sprinted back to the ship. Maybe this makes the chestburster mature faster, maybe it spurs it into action like its host by catching some of the adrenaline, maybe that environment makes our bodies uncomfortable or hostile to the chestburster. They are mentioned as being near the lungs in a deleted scene from Alien. Just a thought.
I'm sorry, but as a veteran watcher of the Alien franchise, I wasn't impressed by this film. I think Ridley Scott's judgement after SO many years is clouded. This was flawed, though a bit better than Covenant. It started well, though sadly went downhill. The franchise is there, to be taken. I just wish someone would come on board with a bright and NEW idea. My bad.
One good thing is that Ridley Scott will be retiring before the next Alien movie and won't be able to ruin it - the movie doesn't really go thru the process of having contact with the black catalyst - they just have face huggers on ice ? How ? - they should have just made extracting Black Catalyst from the alien fossil a movie instead of 5 min of play time - they extract Black Catalyst , it makes contact with a lifeform then it turns into an alien , alien abducts people , turns them into ovomorphs , they you get facehuggers out of the ovomorphs
The way I read the iconic line - "bitch" is what Björn kept calling Andy, who as a learning AI could pick it up and use it as a derogatory. Obviously that's not why they went with it, but I thought it was a nice way of building it in.
yeah, it's just TOO MUCH though. Too many of these lines all the way through it takes me out of story and makes me think about the original films right at the moment I want to be focused on the NEW ONE I'm actually watching.
I didn’t know this beforehand but the movie was shot in Hungary and as it is evident from the credits a lot of Hungarians worked on the film. During the movie there is this short scene where Taylor and Rain cross from the Romulus section to Remus and they go through a corridoor with an escalator. I jokingly turned to my friend and told him it reminds me of a well known metro station in Budapest and lo and behold it really was that station lol
My only true criticism is that the xenomorph doesn't feel like the real antagonistic force, is not a relentless nightmare nor there are many memorable scenes featuring it. There are too many threatening distractions. I think that's a mortal sin since this could re introduce the creature with all the practical effect they did. But I believe this is the cost of making straight up horror with less conceptual subtext. I knew that Ridley was getting something of this movie when he was featured as a producer. The real question now is if they made a deal with him. One movie to see if people are still interested and maybe he can continue his prequel movies. I hope they don't go full Disney with a nostalgia fueled trilogy. How did exactly WY got the facehugger "blueprints" to clone then? What does it mean that the offspring is half engineer? Prometheus is now canon, which means the following we will be getting another prequel film Maybe with time I'll begin to appreciate it more. We can still walk away remembering astonishing cinematography when the xenomorph was featured
I agree. I wanted more of the lone Xenomorph hunting the group. The first few scenes when it comes out of its egg/shell thing are absolutely perfect...and then it loses its scariness when they introduce the guns and then hive. And the big monster at the end isn't even the Alien we're all here for. Overall I loved the movie but it has its issues.
@@Skippy2Ton I mean we did see it drift away in the movie, it’s not like it disintegrated or anything so it cocooning itself isn’t that too far fetched in my opinion
Finally got a chance to see it, and I must say - it was amazing. If I rank the Alien movies from best to worst, it's this for me: Alien, Aliens, Romulus, Alien 3, Prometheus, Covenant, Resurrection. Andy and Rain were superb, both actors absolutely nailed their roles. The return of Ash (albeit as Rook) was a pleasant surprise and I really felt he fit perfectly into this story. The lo-fi retro-tech aesthetic fit so well with the first two films and the game Isolation. The general pacing, story and action scenes were great. The new alien's birth scene was fittingly shocking. I agree some of the call-backs were too on the nose and a bit jarring, also there was a bit of that convenient suspension of belief - such as how Rain is warned that her gun only has one mag, yet even when apparently almost empty, it somehow seems to have unlimited ammo. But I can forgive these gripes as they are pretty minor. All in all, it's not just a worthy addition to the franchise for me, it's one of the best Alien movies to date. As much as I like Alien 3 I have to say Romulus is better. The first two movies are near perfect films, but Romulus is not far from their level. It's so good and I'm so happy we got it.
yeah, but at the same time Isolation did the same thing back in 2014 but it was vastly superior in every aspect - characters, world building, tension and genuinely being scary - and clearly a huge influence on Romulus. Just make a film version of Isolation!
Regardless of how I feel about it’s effect on the lore or story pacing, the engineer/xeno/baby/man thing got an audible gasp from pretty much my entire theater….the lack of a jarring musical sting, and instead letting its weird black-eyed face silently unsettle the viewer I thought was a VERY effective scare
He he,then google the actor od this abomination! (Even worse,it looks like that but more human,and the guy REALLY has "gigantism",a disease where u grow continuously)
I agree. It totally worked. For me, it was a Fede Alvarez moment. It was one of the best horror moments in the movie. Also, this movie made me jump about 5 times...that is hard to do!
I saw a channel complaining about Rook being in the film, stating they should have instead used Bishop yet again, bring back Fassbender which would have been crazy expensive and also just raise more questions about Prometheus/ Alien Covenant, or somehow use Call from Alien Resurrection. But from my understanding, she's an android made by other androids and that canonically didn't happen until later in the timeline. Personally I didn't mind seeing Ash/Rook one last time. I doubt they'll use him again as a model and probably will either introduce a new model or maybe give us another Andy or maybe even Working Joes. I'm just happy we got a very brutal Alien movie that didn't try to be high art like the two prequels, nothing wrong with that but when they get cold feet and can't be bothered to follow through the vision and instead knee jerk react to people who don't have the whole picture. I really wished we could have gotten the actual storyline followed through but I highly doubt we'll ever really get the true follow up to the events of Alien Covenant. So somewhere in the universe, David is just out there doing his thing.
Pointless. The character of the android is a dumb topic because it has zero impact on the story and lore in general. It could have been anyone and it would not have mattered the same. Whats the point in arguing about it?
My main qualm with the prequels is that they ruined the mystery of the xenomorph (and the space jockey) by seeming to imply that the Engineers created it. This movie not only corrects that implication, but fills in all the holes in the chronology that the prequels created. In CGI Ian Holm's exposition dump, he mentions that the genetic accelerant (black goo) was sourced from the facehuggers, and that it is the main biological building block of the species. I took this to mean that the Engineers did the same - they did not create the xenomorph, but they worshipped the xeno's perfection and sought to imbue themselves of that perfection. The Engineers, too, derived the black goo from the xenomorphs and experimented upon themselves, in turn creating humanity. This is why the Offspring in the third act of Romulus has the face of an Engineer - it is a full-circle moment, the ultimate culmination of the experiments conducted by both the Company and the Engineers. The black substance, the "Prometheus strain" as they called it, is the fire of the gods. By tampering with this fire, both the Engineers and humanity meet the same end. I found this a compelling way to complete the themes of the prequels, as well as provide a better explanation as to why the events of the sequels unfold the way they do, such as the mutations in Resurrection. I found that to be poetic and satisfying. Overall, this movie was a solid 4/5 for me. It would have matched the original Alien and Aliens in excellence if it were not for the CGI Holm and the direct quotes from other movies - I found these elements incredibly distracting, and they could have so easily removed or done differently. The production design, score, and cinematography were top-notch. The character motivations were clear, and my investment in the story was grounded in the two leads. I appreciated that the cast was trimmed down to a few principal players and not overly bogged down by so many extraneous side characters like all the sequels. Even Aliens, which I consider a pretty perfect movie, is filled with one-note characters who exist only to die. I think that's a necessary element for this sort of genre, to an extent. The movie did an incredible job at establishing the precariousness of humanity. Space is endless and unknowable, and we are not fit to occupy it. No other Alien movie has enforced this theme so wonderfully since the original. From the uncaring capitalist hegemony of Weyland-Yutani shown in the opening act, to the rickety little spaceship ascending to the station - I felt the characters' vulnerability in my bones, metaphorically and literally through the impeccable sound design which had me shaking. I appreciated that they connected that vulnerability back to the pursuit of perfection.
You know, the Engineers worshipping the Xenomorphs does line up with that weird mural they had on the ship, the one with the Deacon in the middle and a couple of facehuggers on engineers at the bottom
I never got the vibe that David created them anyway, the mural showed Xenos already existed before, I always saw it as David making his version but not the actual creature itself, I also really enjoy the theory that the Space Jockey was something even older then the Engineers and they, like with the Xeno, adopted it and its tech into their culture
I still hold the position that this was a movie that the franchise needed to remind people of it and get it back into the sites of more people as there are 8 other movies in the franchise and that might seem daunting to new people. Its a movie built to get people to watch more Alien movies. Now that we have all that out of the way we can now do new things with the series.
That Ian Holm effect ripped me out of the film so hard I got whiplash 😂 At one point during an action scene, they randomly did a quick cutaway shot of him that caught me off guard and I audibly laughed out loud.
@@HumanHamCube Problem here is, the Ash head is arguably the better effect. I have 3 gripes with this movie. 1 : the incubation time 2 : "the Ash effect" 3 : almost the entire pseudo Alien 4 ending
@ph8enix idk when Ripley hits the head and the mold shifts it's the worst cut in the film. The shot should have been the B cam pointed at ripley having her hit the fake head.
Andy was my favorite character. The foibles were so on-point, and the close-up shots of him trying to assess and comprehend the subtext of what was being said to him were so moving.
How is there anything left of the Nostromo? I seem to remember 3 seperate nuclear detonations in Alien. Even if there was anything left big enough to be useful it should have substantial velocity imparted by the explosions.
And why the fuck was the original Alien within the wreckage of the Nostromo when Ripley was miles away in the escape shuttle when she blew it out of the goddamn airlock
It's a pointless intro , they make xenomorphs have superhero traits. - no way they survive in space - the blood acid ain't that powerfull to burn thru multiple levels of a ship
I just acknowledged that Rook was another Hyperdine 120 A2. While a lot of hate has been given for the film, I enjoyed it in the theater with my Dad, who got me into the franchise to begin with. A solid B to B- film.
@@spenser9908his model of synthetic line wasn’t mainline at the time of Alien, most likely. Before Alien, the only synthetic model that was common was David after all
The movie rocked .. I'm tired of listening to the complainers who think they're so observant and smart because they didn't like the callbacks. I mean .. Who cares? None of it was THAT bad .. Sure it would've been nice if there was less of it. But the movie was still a blast. Try something different like Prometheus and everyone cries , go back to straight up formula and everyone cries. You can't please these weirdos.. It's like a religion or something. I think people like this should stay away from franchise movies they've got that sort of attachment to. It's like the stuff they enjoy is who they are .. they define their identities through the entertainment they consume. Alien 1 and 2 are masterpieces that will never be replicated. Get over it people. In the end, .. They're just movies.
It could be worse for Big Chap. Imagine the Predator dancing and using Big Chap's body parts to annihilate the Weyland Yutani scientists, while a boyband song is played.
@@HumanHamCube It was so much less goofy the way it was handled though. The execution is miles better .. "It ain't what you do it's the way that you do it."
He's a clown. An amateur who doesn't know Aliens inside out. The weak plot point of having the Alien survive 😂 or his dodgy half hour Facehugger impregnation process. Or the gimmicky zero g acid blood thst never touches the walls or floor. Or the weak DEI android. Only to use CGI Ash in a cringe sequence The director is amateur at best. He has no idea about casting the right actors or making an interesting film. His techniques are amateur at best
I think they missed a glorious opportunity to bring back body horror to this movie by explaining the facehuggers on the station were the result of The Big Chap abducting crew members and converting them to eggs via ovamorphing. While a callback to the original, it would have been original in as much as it's never been seen in a released film. I saw the original opening night when I was nine. My dad asked if I wanted to go see a movie, sure I said, what? Alien, it's science fiction I think. 😂
Am I the only one who thought the Rook character was a bit of a plot hole? It was a surprise to the Nostromo crew that Ash was an android, it was a highly sensitive, classified and last minute assignment for Ash, it doesn't make sense that there would be multiple "Ash models" running around the Alien universe, especially with the new canon "Mini CD Drives" on their necks... Like if there was more than one "Ash" model the others on the Nostromo crew could have instantly recognised him as an Android and knew something strange was going on...
good point! I read it that there was probably some secret conspricy of Ash/Rook model synthetics working within The Company to develop the Prometheus project/xenomorph - likely created by David himself after he Mini CD drive hacked Walter on Planet 4 😅
@@J0MBi Tbh I have the same issue with the Terminator films. In the canon there's multiple infiltrator 'skins' whereas in the films they all look like Arnie
Anyone else struggling with the fact that the station only had one EEV with five pods??? But I did love the callback to the EEV in the first place as a plot point. Honorable entry to the Alien Franchise. Overall I loved it.
Your missing the significance of the Facehugger only being on her for a short time. It clearly did not gestate the embryo long enough. It barely had enough strength to fully burst out of her chest. It was a “pre-term birth”. This is why the Xenomorph had to cocoon itself to grow further and fully. (like a neonate child having to incubate further in the NICU).
@@necrographical Remember they removed the facehugger by freezing it off? That stops gestation. The facehugger does not implant an “egg”. It actually secrets a genetic material that combines with the hosts DNA and grows the chestburster through rapid evolution. So, removing the facehugger early, like in this movie, aborts any further growth and this is why it had to come out early and cocoon itself, or risk death.
@callmeviper7723 What is this based off of? Why would it not grow longer in the host? How do we know the cocoon is not standard practice of the chestburster to adult?
Imagine if the pregnant Kay, not Rain, had unexpectedly turned out to be our "final girl," the way Ripley did in the original. Imagine if it was her standing over the last dead alien stowaway, and her wearing the Miraculous Medal around her neck earlier in the film had turned out to be a thematic hint of the triumph to come. "And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth"; "Our Lady has already crushed his head". That would have been a movie for all time. It's the kind of edifying victory that "A Quiet Place" did so well.
Since we know that Ash was a last minute replacement on the ship, and we know that the company knew there was something out that way, I love the idea that Ash came from Renaissance originally. Rook may have been one of several Ian Holm science officer androids working on this stuff, and Ash just happened to be the one selected to go in deep cover.
My brother and I were talking about that, we were thinking it would have made more sense if the cocky kid said it to Andy earlier in the film and letting him learn and set it up later. Just doesn’t make sense for the character to say it.
Ian Holm actually looks quite alright in some shots but a few of the shots specifically his mouth and jaw when he's monologuing absolutely do not work. --I think the main issue is that the facial muscles do not match the voice performance. If you listen to just a speaking performance you can visualize the brow furrow and cheek crease in your head just from the tone and cadence of the voice. What we were hearing did not match the animation on screen.
I wish they would make it so that Kay would survive at the end of the movie! To me, that extra creature and ending duel seemed unnecessary in the movie's purposes for more action, but Kay also went through so much and the actor did so well that I wanted her to make it through the end. She could have even made it through pregnant easily if she didn't take the black goo, and we could have ended it there, but I would at least find the dilemma of what to do with a creature that is technically your child interesting if they wanted to go there. They almost seemed to when "The Offspring" seemed to be putting his down on his mother's bosom, but that idea's probably not a good option. Still, I wished Kay survived. I liked her just a little better than Raine I'd put the movie between Alien 3 and 4 and the prequels, somewhere in there, similar to Alien Theory. I really like it when first seeing it, but I really now that it has a lot of script and logic problems, even if the acting, visuals, and music are great.
The engineers may be humanity's brother - And they hate us because they want to be the "perfect sibling" As for Romulus...hmm I found it to be too teenage actiony which i dislike - They need to make an alien movie like e.g Interstellar/Dune with a serious tone and more to the thriller side
The engineers want to destroy humans because they created humans by sacrificing themselves and when they saw us killing each other they realised humans are a problem if they leave Earth
I thought the movie was really strong up until the point Navarro gets facehugged. After that, there's this distinct shift toward fanservice and 'member berries. "Get away from her you b****" made me want to boo in the theater. As a lifelong Alien fan I can tell this was all conceived for my benefit, but for me its as equally tiresome as The Mandalorian. Take something we love and turn it to key-jangling. Fingers crossed Alien gets something more like Andor. I'm happy the film is doing well and people like it. It still has a lot of merit- especially David Jonsson. That dude is a star.
Speaking of merchandise for the film. Here in the UK, siren craft brewery have released a beer aptly named “something in the water” to coincide with the release of the film which is pretty cool
Alien and Aliens is hard to top because were 1st ; but I would say Romulus is the third best movie in the franchise they're moving in the right direction. Romulus feels like an Alien movie.
Always love your videos! I saw it tonight and I loved it. I was surprised at how good the cinematography was. It looks incredible. Loved all the nods to Alien Isolation, too.
Hmm big chap was blown out of the shuttle not the nostramo. Can't find Ripley's escape shuttle for 57 years but can find an alien floating in space. Hmm that could have been better
@@HumanHamCube well if they knew about all of this why didn't they just go straight to lv426?? mother directed them to do so. This is supposed to be before aliens yeah? It was just stupid. Must have been a better way to do this
I think that keeping BIG CHAP as the “ PARENT “ if you will of all the FACE HUGGERS AND OTHER ALIENS was PERFECT! I didnt want BIG CHAP making this miraculous survival as it was but it was JUST ENOUGH ( FOR ME ) he birthed the franchise and his LEGACY is sealed FOREVER…… I DO LIKE HOW THEY USED ASH/ROOK AND HOW THEY LINKED ROOK AND BISHOP AS THE LIFE GAME OF “ CHESS” each move has deadly consequences!!! And how they used ANDY and uploaded the other droids info and his change back and forth was AWESOME !!! I LOVED ROMULOUS AND I CANT WAIT TO SEE “ ALIEN: EARTH 🌎 but my biggest wish that NETFLIX / DISNEY WOULD RELEASE THE “ ALIEN vs PREDATOR ANIME” the 11 episode anime was completely finished 100% just before DISNEY bought the rights to ALIEN FRANCHISE I hope one day it will be released !
That’s the first problem, big chap should never have been found in the wreckage of the Nostromo. Firstly he was blown out of the escape shuttle, which at the time of destruction was no where near the Nostromo otherwise it would have been blown away too. When the escape shuttle leaves the Nostromo it travelled backwards away from it as you can see from the shots of the windscreen, so if anything when Ripley blew the alien out of the airlock gravity should have taken it FURTHER away from the Nostromo. Also, the harpoon gun she shoots it with would have melted away not present like it was in Romulus. And that’s just the first of the many plots holes
There was a gap between escaping the nostromo and Ripley prepping for cryo in the shuttle, plausible that the shuttle was orientated differently for where she was attempting to float to. Still I agree, the chances big chap would end up in the nostromo debris field are slim.
Not to mention this being the most valuable asset in the universe for the company and they just forgot about it along with a trillion dollar space station.
Andy with the dad jokes like Father from Raised by Wolves. Then that lead me to think about MU-TH-UR 6000 "MOTHER", and Mother from Raised by Wolves being the prefect Artificial Human giving birth to what also reminds me of Shaw, being a host for the Trilobite Im Prometheus.. ahhhhhh I love this universe!!! Such complex story telling.
i completely agree about the "get away from her you bitch" line mainly because it's like THE alien quote. the others I can get your argument cause I usually feel the same way but I didn't mind them at all. I went to see it with my partner that had seen all the movies once but isn't a die-hard fan and he didn't even pick up on any other quotes but that one
The Alien Resurrection newborn and the Romulus offspring were both bad ideas. Don't have your audience invested in a villain/creature for the whole movie only to introduce something different right at the end. Not to mention both looked ridiculous. Killed Romulus for me.
@@GZP1023 it was still an Alien and not a different species of animal, and in addition it was discussed earlier in the movie something unseen must be laying the eggs, so the audience was expecting something was coming and it was a bigger and glorious Alien. An ALIEN!
I watched your video the day after after my first watch of Alien: Romulus, and I went to see it again last night with a lot of your points still in mind. Watching this again, I completely agree with pretty much every single point raised. I don’t understand the negative feedback this film seems to be getting on a lot of fans Facebook pages. My first Alien film was ALIENS back in 1986, and this new film tickled me pink, despite a few moments here and there that, agreeably, should have definitely been left out. “THAT’s what’s best for Rain!” would have been better; 100%
I liked seeing "Ash" again. I liked the callbacks to the other films. I feel it's a sign of respect and saying "I know my history." I was not a big fan of the "Offspring." It's confusing and I see people on the internet mislabeling it as an Engineer. It's not. I kept thinking they were building up to a Queen reveal only for it to be the black goo. This film kept me on my toes and was just so well done that I have to personally rank the films as follows: 1. Aliens 2. Alien: Romulus 3. Alien 4. Alien 3 then pick all the rest out of a hat because it's irrelevant at that point. Alien: Romulus is a worthy successor and has breathed new life into the franchise. The people that worked on this film did so well and understand the ethos of the Alien universe that they should be allowed to do another movie with an increased budget.
I was hoping for more Gore. I wanted to see that annoying kid's face melt away by the acid and not just his fingers. And I was hoping to see some really gnarly bloody birthing scene of the chestburster but it just was kind of meh to me. I loved the movie overall. But I just wanted more eye popping moments to really push it out there.
Was waiting for your review! I loved Romulus but my mind didn’t even consider that the original alien could’ve been used as the main menace in Romulus. That would’ve been pretty amazing. And am I the only one who preferred the xenomorphs over the hybrid? It wasn’t that fascinating to me.
Absolutely love the xenos, the hybrid scared the shit out of me like some sleep paralysis nightmare demon thing - new monster, actually felt visceral disgust and fear over it
The Nostromo exploded 3 times, which appeared to be nuclear..evaporated, and they still find pieces of it floating around, including the name plate. Not to mention finding big chap. I just can't suspend that much disbelief. Those are just the surface level issues I had with it. The aliens were supposed to be the star of the film but instead got turned into shooting gallery fodder one at a time down a hallway. Sad Andy face.
The setup is just not plausible. As you say, a nuclear explosion, three times. There would be next to nothing left of the Nostromo. Also, any debris (anything not vapurised) would be pushed away from the point of explosion at speed. People are doting on this film, but it feels like a fan film, picking al the elemets they loke, including dialogue. This film is far from an Alien film and there are better directors than Fede out there.
The initial explosion would have thrown a lot of debries clear, but if trapped in a large enough gravity we'll, IE orbiting around a large planet, the remains would eventually drift back together (orbital mechanics are fun like that), ironically I find it stranger that it exploded three times, once, sure, twice, perhaps the refinery's reactor chained off too... the third time? What was left to explode? Was the Nostromo's FTL drive that volatile maybe? Who knows. I certainly believe large chunks of the Nostromo would remain, far more likely than say... the Death star, which had a reactor powerful enough to destroy planets, no way that thing wouldn't be atomized by its own explosion
Bros voice over makes it more interesting. Its like listening directly from the in game character or movie actor . Probably my favorite. You belong in the Alien universe bro. Keep up the efforts.
I've seen it twice and loved it even more the second time around! I pretty much feel the exact same way as you. The movie could have done without the call back lines and I didn't know how to feel about the new hybrid the first time around. On my second go it didn't bother me at all. While the movie isn't perfect I love what Fede did with it and would love to see more in this world from him. Both my screenings were standard, but I would love to see this in IMAX. I've heard it's AMAZING. I was able to get my hands on the Xeno head from Cinemark and the Facehugger Continament Unit bucket from Regal which I had to drive 2 hours round trip for, but my god was it worth it! It feels so good to see this franchise talked about so positively again!
The part where Fede Alvarez claims it wasn't homage to Alien Resurrection is kinda bunk. The Theme music from Alien Resurrection plays during the "offspring" death. Either he (Fede) didn't know of his own movie or the music was added so far post it was out of his hands.
@@ptonpc That doesn't make any sense. The offspring could easily be an homage to resurrection and prometheus both. The way it's born is homage to the first and his face is literally an engineers face so...
@ptonpc meanwhile Ridley is low key sabotaging the film bc audiences didn't love his lofty pretentious 8th grade western civ/philosophy Ancient Aliens episodes. He's grumpy like grandpa after taking his car keys away. His films actually look like imaginative original master pieces compared to AR
That ending was just the roles in Resurrection flip flopped lol. Instead of the Queen birthing and Xeno/human hybrid, it was a human birthing a Human/xeno hybrid!!! Wooooooah Fede slow down with the original ideas! I can’t process em all!
I could buy the company not having people in the immediate area, but i was definitely surprised we didnt see any other scavengers/local law enforcement appear on the station part way in.
@@Billbeaux How? The incident didn't happen too long, and the robot said the message he sent to the company would take months to arrive, They wouldn't have enough time to receive the transmission and get there
I know some novels have talked about the potential of every drone, once separated from their queen, having the ability to become a queen themselves. I would have loved the big chap to become a hive queen. The presence of face huggers but no eggs kinda bothered me.
Too much too fast is a good description of Alien Romulus - usually you would have the alien - alien steals crew and melts them into ovomorphs - facehuggers burst out of the ovomorphs - then you can clone them
Huge fan of the Alien series and this channel Loved Romulus, it did not disappoint but I had a few thoughts only true Xenofiles might appreciate 1. Andy's name should have been Eddy or Ezekiel or any name beginning with "E" to keep with tradition Unless the names are actually musical notes... A, B, B, C, D, D, A? 2. It would have been better to see "Kay" mutate into "something" from injecting the black goo rather than just than just the offspring, personally I thought that was the point, to see what we'd become if we took it and evolved 1000+ years 3. Rook... Bishop... very nice underhanded there, wish all of the call backs were this slight (but alas...) Thanks again for the channel face hugs to you all 😄
As long as They were not Using Holm's likeness for malicious purposes (it's clearly wasn't) I don't see any harm with it and in terms of in Universe context it's not unreasonable to assume that Ash was a mass produced android model
Mostly agree had no issues with him being brought back like this. Although him bring a mass produced model is a bit silly since Ash was sent by the company as a covert android without the crew knowing. Wouldn’t make much sense to have an android that you send under cover to pose as human also be a mass produced model.
Big Chap was basically almost dead by the time Ripley’s blasted it into the vacuum of space. Its corpse could’ve served as the basis for the artificial facehuggers and black goo but I don’t buy the idea of Big Chap some how being resuscitated by the company
Even though it's just a plot contrivence I have a theory that the reason the xenomorph gestation period is insanely fast in Romulus is directly related to the origin of the facehugger. The facehuggers in Romulus originate directly from the synthesized pathogen as stated by Rook and a screen in the facehugger storage bay that says "printing in process". We've seen in Prometheus and Covenant that the pathogen causes embryos to gestate insanely fast such as the neomorph and praetomorph gestating and maturing in less than a day whereas the xenomorphs in any of the original movies took hours to days to gestate and mature.
Exactly this. After watching it a second time Rook does mention that they did engineer it so it could slow down or increase its gestation and growth time depending on its environment
It was something I noticed watching the film, lots of people are saying "Plot holes!" when there are explanations for what is happening on screen. Something else I thought of at the time, the face hugger was removed early and when the chest buster comes out, it seemed to take more effort and the CB moved more slowly and awkwardly, as if it was premature and not quite 'cooked' yet.
The movie peaked when the first adult Xeno was born and we got a very Alien Isolation-esque scene as it stalks and eventually takes the girl. I wish we got more of that. One very powerful, smart and scary Xeno hunting them down 1 by 1 and all they can do is hide because there's just no hope until they find some smart way to escape. I was very hopeful when they pulled out the guns to temporarily scare it off because it's smart enough to threat assess. It reminded me of the flame thrower in Isolation. Sadly they went with gunning down almost every Xeno as they just float there like lemons despite Rook saying 20 minutes earlier that they're so perfect that even gravity is of no consequence to them. Movie fell apart there for me and only got worse when the monster we went there to see was swept aside in favour of yet another hybrid.
It's bad decision to give aliens superhero characteristics - no way they can survive in space - acid yes melts but not that much that it goes thru several floor of a space station
Bravo, great review! I just have now seen A.R. for the first time, and you have almost perfectly captured every impression l took away from the film. Most importantly, l think the character of Andy was the highlight of the film, and the actor who played him was, in his own, very different way, as effective as Fassbender playing both David and Walter. And l had never expected to see such a great performance in any Alien film ever again, but he absolutely delivered. I sincerely hope we'll get a sequel to this, just so l can can get more Andy in my life. Also, my initial impression of the usage of Ian Holmes' likeness in a new character was that it was extremely well and respectfully done. If his family is happy with it, then so am l.
The story needed some polish and a little less nostalgic play in it to be honest. I enjoyed it but again, some polish is needed. It’s a 7.5 out of ten for me. That being said, I’m very surprised/impressed this was done for about eighty million dollars.
Agree entirely! Plus I think it was really kind of dumbed down in the name of seeming modernized. It felt far more like movie set after movie set, rather than a truly immersive world.
The retro futuristic electronics aesthetics are awesome to look at.
@@fufu5068 they nailed it. I liked that return.
Yes!!
If you like video games, check out Alien: Isolation. That game was a major influence visually for this film.
🤔📽This ƒilm was good for the *_first 1/3 or even 1/2...._* but _then_ it just completely *_Fell Oƒƒ A Cliƒƒ._*
That was the first thing that I (internally) cheered for. The old school tech and sound design.
My father took me to see Alien in '79 at age 11. It was my first R rated movie😳😬, which was great, untill he took my brother who was 6! My dad died a few months ago. RIP dad. 🙏 Thanks for inspiring a lifelong love of science fiction.
Condolences to and yours, may all the happy memories you’ve made help heal you in this time of loss. God bless.
That's the power of cinema too. Having memories with people we love sharing movie moments. My dad showed me Alien as a kid and it's something we always watch together. Sorry for your loss.
Sorry for your loss, Mgabriel2636. I can tell your dad was a really fun guy. Cherish those memories ~
I remember seeing the first one with my mum when I was 7 had nightmares for ages.
I took my daughter to Romulus, she is 8.
I am a 15 year old who went to go see this movie with a large group of friends of mine. Out of all of the friends, I was the only one to ever see any alien movies, with me being a very big fan of the movies. Not only did this movie make me super excited and happy (and scared) while watching, it made every single one of those friends feel the exact same way I did (especially in the last 15 minutes) even though they didn’t know anything about alien or the franchise, convincing them to watch all the other movies, I think that the future is bright for the alien franchise.
Congratulations young man. Be sure to welcome all your friends into the lore and universe. One of the best ways to ensure we fans continue to get new stories in the "Alien" universe is to bring in new fans.
Watch Alien with your friends then aliens, after that you and your friends will understand will understand why Alien Romulus sucks
This is a terrible movie. It should of never been made! A complete waste and time of creatives. They should of made a movie of Alien Isolation and not this utter garbage. I watched it all in one sitting and I am appalled at the lack of foresight. There is NOTHING good about this film other than its a hook to get peoples money. They are trying to secure that Gen X demographic. I am so glad i watched it on a skuzzy pirate copy because if I had seen this at the cinema I would of torched the place!
@@whiterabbit1632 dude idk what movie you watched but the one I watched was great 😭 me and all of my friends agree even after a second viewing, sure it’s not a masterpiece like alien or aliens but it’s better than anything else we have gotten in a long time (besides isolation)
@@aldoernesto4938 we actually went to the theatres again last night after they watched alien and aliens and they still love it, so do I as a dedicated fan of 10 years
4:32 I feel if Big Chap returned alive for Rain and Andy, it would've been trying too hard to stroke the nostalgia of older fans
Exactly. Even as an older fan, I would not have enjoyed the film that way.
I don't like the idea of it still being alive. I feel as though this movie basically stole Ripley's kill.
@@Eren-cy6ln To be fair, I don't think Ripley was ever supposed to have killed it in the original. The original film treats Big Chap as basically indestructible, so the best she could do was getting it away from her.
And all the member berries and the blatant and shameless copying is not too hard? Atleast it is a cool, original idea, which cannot be said for the rest of the movie. Out of anything they rudely resurrected, it would have been the best idea, not all the lines, the late actor's resemblance (just feels bad and distasteful in general), the 'borrowed' plots, etc.
I agree I think it would’ve jumped the shark for me
The real horror of this movie is that a scientific research station measures heat in Fahrenheit.
Don’t worry, the US got to the moon first using imperial as well.
Also it’s a WY science station. They’re evil corporate overlords. It fits.
Vs what
@garrenluce1984 you just answered his point lol. It would confuse Americans.
I was watching a science doc, one of those shitty American ones. And everytime a scientist said the temp in Celsius the narrator would say, "that's a whopping ### in farenheit"
Gatekeeping measurements of temperature is weird and lame
I absolutely loved the quiet opening sequence. The ship waking up in deep space.. and all the retro technology coming to life…. Felt like a strict sequel to Alien.
Definitely agree. Romulus feels very much like Fede fan sequel to Alien while also maybe trying to be a soft remake? I wonder if Romulus began life as an Alien remake and eventually morphed into a pseudo sequel.
@dylanmorgan2374 all I could hear were people smacking popcorn and nachos lol
The opening sequence made no sense at all, the original Xenomorph wouldn’t be anywhere near the Nostromo and the ship was destroyed in 3 nuclear explosions so how would the ship’s nameplate survive… ❓This took me out of the movie as it was starting and it just went downhill from there, ending in a terrible homage to Alien Resurrection…. 🤬
@@olly7248 yea, that was so weird. I suppose its not as bad as the unexplained egg being on the Sulaco for Alien 3. I buy more into this Romulus setup than that mess. I wish the source alien the WeyYu people stumble on was something related to the Covenant ship that David was doing experiments on (or maybe checking on on where Walter was on the engineer home world).
@@olly7248 It’s sci fi.. not reality.
I'm a 37 year old fan of this franchise. I got into these movies when I was 7 by sneaking out at night to watch my parent's VHS copy of it. It fucking terrified me. As a middle school teacher, one of my students told me they saw this opening night. They are 12 years old. I asked them what they thought and they responded, "The ending scared the crap out of me and I haven't been able to sleep since. I don't know why I thought I could see this in the theater." This is what it's all about folks. He loved it but it scared the ever loving shit out of him. If that isn't a win for this franchise then I don't know what it.
Scaring 12 year olds is a very low bar.
@@danielwoods3563scaring a 12 year old is how I got in to Alien and Aliens. Although technically I was 9….calm they self.
@@lisachaffee2946 Sorry to break it you but it was adults hiding under their chairs that made Alien such a powerful and successful movie, not 12 yr olds or 9 yr olds, unless you think it was kids taking their parents to the cinema.
I’m going to argue it’s not actually a film for kids? The original alien is sci fi suspense horror and what made it so terrifying was the clever way the script was written along with the conservative peekaboo shots. It was also unusual for having a female protagonist which is only revealed towards the end of the film - Ripley was extremely empowering as very few films portray such a strong female character.
It’s a lot more than just a scary film - unfortunately I can’t see that Romulus did anything new but just tried to thread all the films together and include so many references it comes across like a fanfiction
@@danielwoods3563That’s not what he’s saying. You’ve clearly missed the point. He’s saying what he experienced when he saw the original. I was 12 when Alien came to tv in the uk. And it practically traumatized me. It’s now my favourite movie of all time. I’ve met a few people over the years who saw Alien when they were too young. But obviously it was successful at the box office due to adults.
Instead of „Get away from her…” Andy should put one of his dad jokes there. That would fit so well with him and the storyline.
I was waiting for a dad joke or a posh retort, wasn’t expecting the bitch call back.
Or said nothing. Used expression and silence. The audience would have been waiting for one liners. Using space and absence of lines would fit better.
Agree. The line as it stands just makes no sense. Why would Andy use the Ripley line? The reason that Ripley uses it is because she’s fighting the alien Queen, and links to the theme of motherhood running through Aliens. There’s absolutely no need or reason for Andy to use that line, other than a lazy nod, nod, wink, wink to the audience - which is one of the many tiresome references in Romulus
@@drummerboy1066 people say that Bjorn was constantly calling andy B*%". But it was still unredeamable no matter how hard it tried to earn it.
That line got laughs in the theater for me.
So...silly but kinda funny or at least funny.
My issue with the film is the finale.
I personally think bringing back Big Chap as an actuala villain would've been pointless fan service, which the film already had too much of. It wouldn't have been cool at all to me, just feel like a "somehow Palpatine returned" thing.
I agree. It kinda of defeats the whole idea of the xenomorphs being mindless printable drones.
Totally agree, it would’ve been a huge turn off for me like how the quadrilogy kept bringing Ripley back … it’s tired.
But the entire film is just pointless call backs to other films?
It did nothing original, having the big chap there was pointless, same with the Ian Holmes likeness, it could of been any xeno and any android.
It was just all pointless dumb call backs
@@craigwolfe249 Sorry you didn't like it bud. Hope you're well.
"Somehow Palpatine returned"? Somehow? Yeah, well you explain that to the families of all the fired dark scientists in Weyland-Yutani's Dark Science Division that you want to shut down.
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one bothered by the gestation period and the such rapid growth of the Xenomorph. Considering that they reveal that there are tons more xenos later.. they could've honestly had another check the ship out or something, give the gestation time to not feel so rushed.
In the time it took you to write this comment, two humanoids were implanted and chest-bursted.
Like he said, there has never been consistency through all the alien material with it taking any amount of time they want it to. This isn't the first time it's happened quickly.
The callbacks were a negative for me too, it smacked of studio interference to me so im surprised to hear that it was Fede's idea. There were plenty of great moments in the script, leaning on an old quote just undermines ones own movie as if they can't do their own thing.
It was the dialogue version of breaking the 4th wall. It bit hard, over and over.
This film made me feel like I was walking through "Alien Isolation." Loved it!
Yeah, lots of alien isolation vibes. Even the door hatch/lever was a reference!
There are save stations from isolation that appear just before some of the big action sequences too!
exactly!
@@whiteknight3929 lol really?
@@theanti-hypemonitor9079 yup!
Andy was the first artificial person I actually felt comfortable with since Bishop.
What about Walter or 'Good David' he was a nice artificial human 😊
Personally I love that Rook is basically a good guy, until he realizes the mission hasn’t failed.
Like, he’s immediately trying to warn them. Even his initial “attack” is him warning them, but he’s broken. When hooked up to the ship, he can communicate, and immediately tells them everything - including the right thing to do. Genuinely the right thing.
He doesn’t hide that there’s xenomorphs. Doesn’t hide what happens when you get facehugged. Doesn’t lie about the odds of survival. He tells them immediately that the best thing they can do is mercy-kill their friend. He tells them immediately all they can do is run.
His only “villainous” act is telling Andy to kill Navarro - which isn’t so much villainy, as good logic. Killing her is a mercy that would have saved the rest of them.
He only becomes an antagonist once he accesses the computer to check on the goo’s integrity (it was really dumb he had to type it though, he’s literally hooked up to the same system).
I heard the reason Ian Holm turned down Alien: Isolation Crew Expendable was because he was busy doing scenes for The Hobbit as Old Bilbo at the time. It would've been around the same time Alien: Isolation was in development
When I was in the theatre watching, I also felt like the implantation/birth of Navarro's happened too fast - but when the chestburster came, it's eruption seemed less energetic and more labored. In my head I sort of justified it as maybe the creature was premature: it had sensed all the outside happening as a threat and hurried up too quickly - then later spent more time in the cocoon after molting maybe.
Yeah, chestbursters in the past have jumped out and taken off in a jiffy due to how vulnerable they are. One in this movie would have been dead instantly if Bjorn/Kay werent knocked out and could hammer it quickly
It grew to adult more quickly than any other Alien we have seen though, so that kinda of defeats that defense. Not counting avp.
I think the movie itself justifies this though. They pulled the facehugger off quickly, and this resulted in the chestburster being born prematurely. The facehugger couldn't finish preparing the embryo for birth.
The “You have my sympathies” line actually works because that model android was programmed to say it.
No excuse for “Get away from her you bitch” tho
Yes there is. You must have not noticed how the ex’s cousin kept attacking Andy with verbal insults and slanders, several times calling him a bitch. Well, the android processed that and realized how such a term is used. And then used it on the alien. You’re welcome.
@@raheeb1not so much. Remember in Terminator when the T-800 said “Hasta la vista, baby” to the T-1000, but there was not only a scene of him being taught those phrases but also practicing them? That’s proper set-up and payoff. it was never set up that Andy used those terms. Ever. Had he cursed just one time before uttering that phrase it would’ve made sense.
@@damienburke4996thx but I disagree still. The AI in Andy took being called a bitch multiple times and figured out its use and it made the decision it’s appropriate to dish out on the alien that was posing a prolonged threat to her. Maybe you are thinking of it from the point of view of the robot getting emotional after its kill of the alien but Andy showed throughout that he absolutely made emotional statements and reactions. So it makes sense and also I think very welcomed by 9/10 fans!
@@raheeb1 were there any other instances of Andy learning human idiosyncrasies and then implementing what he learned?
That’s one of the best moments for Andy and he didn’t say it like Ripley so it was perfect.
Rook talking over the video intercoms was by far the better effect, it would have been better for him if he only appeared in that medium.
Genuinely loved his face on the screens
He looked really good though the screens! He was mostly seen that way after that original meeting. I forgive it lol
I commented the same . They could have said the body lost all motor function and could only communicate through the screens when connected to mother.
The cgi is fuckin atrocious
They kind of did that in one of the novels. He was just the ship a.i
If there's a sequel perhaps they’ll show more restraint when it comes to re-using lines and characters from previous films. I hope that the sequel maintains the tone and overall tension present in Romulus but charts its own course. When it comes to new creature designs maybe they could pull ideas from the comics and show us the xenomorph king or something else never before seen on movie screens.
Give us preatorians. 'Hey we killed the queen' with a very pissed of final circuit.
They won't have a choice. They've used them all up and there's not many left.
First half of the movie was good. I liked the world building & the style, but then it became a "best of" with complete lines & scenes from the older movies & that took me out. Like "oh he's showing her how the pulse rifle works, like hicks showed Ripley. Elevator escape like Ripley with Newt. The main character gets in the space suit for the final face off. Oh the Newborn but taller thinner & with an engineer head. Aaaand it gets sucked out like in Resurrection." And there was so much more, at least 3 quotes copied in 1:1. So disappointing, because it started so well & promising.
I did root for Andy & Rain though, but I didn't care for the other characters at all 😂
@@Aquarat86 they will double down. Successes like this give the total wrong message to execs. Especially Disney
@AkiTerry the film was shot chronologically. It's like the execs saw half way through in dailies that they actually had a hit then started to add "THEIR IDEAS"
One of the joys of the first film was 'who will survive?" no one had a clue it would be Ripley. This film from the very first moments it was clear that 'Rain" would be the final girl. It would have added an extra twist to have say one of the English dudes survive and not her, no one would have seen that coming.
Or if only Andy had survived, given what usually happens to Artificial Persons in the franchise
@@UNSCPILOT exactly!
The facehugger part actually bothers me the least. We discussed this after the movie came out. We finally agreed on the theory that, ideally, the facehugger implants, and latches on, keeping the host quiet, contained and safer while the chest buster gestates. If the facehugger is removed, crucially, before it properly latches on,, I’d argue it’s releasing amino acids (or something) to tell the egg to activate it’s quicker gestation emergency option. The fact we’re enjoying talking about it makes it a big recommendation from us, both OG fans.
When not under duress, the face hugger seems to take it sweet time, agreed, having someone figure out how to get it off put it into panic mode and it fired off it's egg, and probably a dose of growth accelerator hormones to get tge chestburster ready fast before they can get rid of it too.
That's my headcannon at least, in ideal conditions it can take the slow route like in the original movie
Yeah I could see it having some kinda rush mode for gestation, some kind of stress hormone that makes the Xeno develop quicker so it can defend the hive would make total sense, perhaps it results in a slightly stunted Xeno as a consequence.
It was dumb, as a huge fan, as with any life it needs time to gestate and feed of the host, giger was clearly inspired by parasitic wasps for this part of the life cycle, which lay eggs on in live hosts, they hatch into pupai, feed on the host, avoiding vital organs to keep it alive as long as possible, before breaching through the host.
Im glad someone finally mentioned Kay's scream. Im happy it was muted for the trailer, cus it hits so hard when you hear it in the theater. Definitely one of my favorite moments of the movie.
Man she annoyed the hell out of me. She’s just a plot device that adds nothing to the script other than “stare wide eyed, scream, and make over exaggerated pain noises!” I honestly have no idea why the hell they brought her along, she served absolutely no purpose.
@jaworski105 she gave birth to a sac larger than her womb filled with acid and that hybrid, i think the exaggerated scream is warranted.
@vince_c you completely missed the point. That's all she was good for. Whether the scream was warranted or not in that FICTIONAL situation, as a film device, she's pretty much a stereotypical annoyance.
@@phantomform4171this guy gets it 👍
@@phantomform4171 she’s a massive plot contrivance. She serves no actual meaningful purpose to the story except to move the plot along. Gets captured by the Xeno for no other purpose other than so they can go into the nest and find her. And then oh no! Somehow she’s not comparable as a host for a facehugger but the Xenos kept her alive anyways so the third act can happen. Useless character. Why she was even brought along as part of the crew is beyond me. She has no skills other than looking like a frightened mouse
"I prefer artificial person" and "you have my sympathies" i feel get a pass since its androids saying lines from others androids. Rook definetly doesn't seem far off from Ash and that makes it feel like the lines are programmed, makes it feel even colder tbh.
@@TheUrDragon same but not "THE LINE"
You have my sympathies doesn't IMO.
Almost unwarranted. What, does every Ash model have the same 'fuck you I win anyway' dialog option
Because thematically it’s all the sweeter later on. He doesn’t go out with a smirk on his face though s time. And the repeated line really makes it “this time” by showing he’s just an extension of the company and more or less a duplicate down to his behavior and mannerisms.
You're becoming hysterical.
Watching an ALIEN movie in a theater 🎭 will NEVER get old. Good or bad, I’m here for them ALL!
agreed got the chance to finally see an alien film in the theater with this one it did not disappoint
Even if the script is utter dogshit?
21:55 - To be fair, I don't think the chest burster scene was that off as the Chestburster was underdeveloped and kind of slithered out.
Yeah, it was crap
This is the movie that, in my eyes, justifies Prometheus' existence. Romulus was able to reconcile the lore of Prometheus with the lore of the OG Alien movie. Perfectly.
I also recognized the brief nods to the video game, Alien: Isolation - the save station can be seen in one scene, and the way they had to pump a handle and then press a button to open a door, just like in the game. Not to mention the air vents.
I just hope that they don't drag Fede Alvarez away to make Alien vs Predator movies, because those types of films are going to be really hard to get right. And if his reputation is tarnished by a flop, they might not greenlight a sequel to Romulus with him at the helm.
Perfectly? Lol
@@PatrickOMulligan Did I stutter? Yes, I said perfectly. Which is more than what you said as a counter argument.
They were able to incorporate the black goo into the franchise in a way that doesn't ruin the original lore. But instead it makes better.
Audiences that have seen the film have said that the whole sequence with the Offspring was fucked up, but in a good way. Some young women even said that it put the fear of child-birth into them because of how horrifying that particular scene was.
I know the film has some detractors. But they can pound sand. Romulus was a certified good film that was also generally well received by audiences and critics. And that is a combination that we haven't seen since 19-modafukin-86.
So yeah, perfectly 👌
@@PatrickOMulligan Man, I just read your other replies on this channel and you're just hating on the film. And I couldn't help to notice that you follow Piers Morgan. A troll who follows a troll.
as much as I'm mixed on the prequels I love how the door is now open to crazy hybrids and genetic monstrosities that push the horror of the xenomorph even further into more shocking territory.
I hope they do do a Alien Vs Predator movie Your logic makes no sense Every single Alien movie has been profitable why would it flop when it has a massive fanbase
I would’ve LOVED “that’s what’s best for Rain” as Andy’s big line
I wish they would have subverted the final girl trope and had Rain offed in the middle. Have the punk kid take the lead overcome his predjudice with Andy and had an arc for a character.
if only Andy just stopped talking after "get away from her" i think it would have worked so much better than the in your face reference we got
He's built on logic. It made no sense for him to tell a dead xenomorph to get away from anyone. If he was to say anything at all, it should have been to simply ask Rain if she was ok. They just had to cheese it. One of the worst moments in the film.
@@HumanHamCubeeh, not THAT punk. Another time, tho...
@@HumanHamCubeaint no way you think Byorn had THAT kind of potential going for him, especially with that asshat attitude he had even when we met him
They should have had Rook on a video screen the entire time. The in person effect looked very floaty.
Yeah I agree, he looked way better on the screens
ikr. looked like a grainy screen image anyways
Just watching this now and haven't finished, but hold up a sec... Hold up! If big chap survived the vacuum of space then does that mean the Queen who got spaced in the second film survived as well?!
Honestly think you're onto something here
It does mean that and the premise has been mentioned before. Collectively, fans have figured that xenomorphs don't need oxygen to live, so the first two films left the endings open for the creatures.
I think James Cameron said that the Sulaco was still orbiting LV-426, so she burnt up in the atmosphere like an asteroid coming in. I had that same thought as well tho😂
The Queen was ejected downward from the Sulaco at high speed while the ship was still in obit of the planet. Aliens are very durable, but it would seem unlikely that she could survive atmospheric reentry.
Sure, why not, shit as far as this movie goes all of the eggs and aliens got ejected from LV426 out into space and are still there. It's a virtual farm out there.
I thought instead of the final girl finale, they should have had all the main characters killed off and the science lab actually crashes back down on the mining colony infecting everyone on the planet. Kinda like seeing what happend to the colony in Aliens. It would be a dark and intense ending seeing all the chaos unfold. And if you wanted to leave it open ended, where hollywood can now tell a new story about a survivor down below trying to get away
the one thing i love so much about this movie is more alien biology. we finally get to see how a chestburster grows into a full adult xenomorph with a perfectly designed cocoon that's some what similar to how humans get turned into ovamorphs, love that they show how intelligent the xenomorphs are when either killing or luring prey (one of my favorite scenes is when the scorched alien was waiting for them to open the door to get them all but then decided to just take the girl when she knew they wouldn't). to be honest almost all the confrontations with the aliens, off spring included, were amazing to see but there are a good amount of alien scenes i wasn't happy with but i won't go any further this comment isn't a review of the movie. i am a big nerd in the biology and functions of monsters and the xenomorph is by far my favorite monster to study.
also the protomorph in covenant is the best xenomorph design no discission.
I got 2 popcorn buckets when my kids and I went to see it. After the movie I saw a guy looking at me holding them and he made a face like “oh many you got them before they sold out!”… so I gave one away to a total stranger who said he is a big fan of the Alien movies. I think I made his day even better, he was so excited and said he’s planing to make a display with it and Predator characters 😮
That's awesome you did that, allot of us didn't get a chance to get one and I'm not paying the scalping prices they are asking.
I wanted the popcorn bucket but my theater never got them. Lame.
I went and saw Deadpool 3 and the theater was selling the buckets before Alien was released. First I was just going to buy the cup with alien on the lid. I ended up buying the alien head and the face hugger popcorn containers as well as the cup.
My theater ( Regal Cinemas ) only sold the face hugger t-shirt and the Alien decorated mug, which I bought.
I'll just say, I'm 50, I saw all the movies except Alien in the theater. Aliens is my favorite film of all time. There was a young man sitting next to us in Romulus. He sat forward in his chair on the edge of his seat as soon as the engineer baby thing appeared. That's the sort of thrill I got from watching Alien and Aliens. I did not get that sense of thrill from Romulus or any of the other movies, while I did still love a few of them. I would love to have that thrill coming from this Universe again. Maybe next time, and I realize that young man on the edge of his seat at Romulus did get that, so Romulus can't be all that bad, and I need to see it a few more times to see if I can see what he did ;)
In comparison: How many movies of running around in circles on a spacestation or ship with a liitle horror could you produce without repeating yourself (like romulus die reapeat resurrection) ... Or you open the franchise like Prometeus did. Creating endless space for new movies, series and co. with endless oppotunitys to tell each fact of this really cool alien universe. David could have had his own movie, like The Joker for example, kind of psycho thriller and there would be even more space for real horror pictures and a great stories. The life or structure of the WY companie has so much potential for any kind of real thoughful stories. Whats with the engegniers and all the other endless connections ... You get the my point. Well if not. I will tell you anyways: With this movie aliens died, if they dont dig deeper in the real story and meanings. Alien resurrection did the same thing with much better ideas and pictures.
@@fidelcorona9998womp womp. Lol
Aliens is my favourite movie of all-time too. Respect. I didn't get to see it in the theatre (or Alien), saw it on VHS when I was 16, absolutely loved it! Alien I saw on tv when I was 10, loved it too, it's my 5th favourite movie of all-time.
"I like to keep this handy...for close encounters." "I heard that!"
@@DoomGhost001 Yeah, when Aliens came out on VHS I watched it over and over until we had to return the tape to the rental store. :)
@@pjs1975101 Lol, yeah, me too. I ended up buying two VHS of the Theatrical Cut, three of the Special Edition, a DVD, then on DVD as part of the original box set, then the Alien: Quadilogy box set. I still want to get the 4K version of Alien and Aliens.
I can't watch the Theatrical Cut of Aliens anymore, as I miss the scene of Ripley finding out about her daughter, Amanda (the one scene Cameron should've left in the original release), Hudson's 'Ultimate Badass' monologue and the Sentry Gun sequences too much, lol.
"We're on an express elevator to Hell! Going down!"
The speed bursting is always the thing I have issue with. People say a few hours in the OG alien as Kane is out on the ship for a while, but you also have to factor in the time they spent retrieving and dragging him all the way back to the ship. that would have taken a long time too. Same in Aliens, Newts mum must have taken a long time dragging a huge guy all the way back to the tractor. If these life cycle speeds were in those movies they would have popped before they even left the derelict.
Yep, I hate this aspect of it. And the fact it grows so quick. May aswell have full grown aliens on the ship.
I figure since the aliens in this film are all synthetic that their gestation has been tampered with.
Legit aliens take longer to be birthed.
I would say more then a few hours with Kane in the OG. Had to haul him back to the ship, after that they get the suit off of him, do a full medical analysis, then however much time was spent after that before it came off, wakes up on his own, makes it to dinner. Better part of a day from initial contact to the full on chestburst atleast
I agree with you - I wish the bursting were more consistent and the difference of time between Kane waking up and his death and Navarro waking up and her death is insane. But for an attempt to explain, maybe the host’s endocrine profile and metabolism has something to do with it? Kane woke up, minding his business, not a care in the world except getting something to eat and going back into cryo. Navarro woke up in a hellish life or death scenario, with adrenaline and cortisol pumping at max, then full on sprinted back to the ship. Maybe this makes the chestburster mature faster, maybe it spurs it into action like its host by catching some of the adrenaline, maybe that environment makes our bodies uncomfortable or hostile to the chestburster. They are mentioned as being near the lungs in a deleted scene from Alien. Just a thought.
Popcorn microwave growing process 😂😂
I'm sorry, but as a veteran watcher of the Alien franchise, I wasn't impressed by this film. I think Ridley Scott's judgement after SO many years is clouded. This was flawed, though a bit better than Covenant. It started well, though sadly went downhill. The franchise is there, to be taken. I just wish someone would come on board with a bright and NEW idea. My bad.
Agreed. The movie felt like an AI wrote it. Bland, repetitive and full of holes
One good thing is that Ridley Scott will be retiring before the next Alien movie and won't be able to ruin it
- the movie doesn't really go thru the process of having contact with the black catalyst
- they just have face huggers on ice ? How ?
- they should have just made extracting Black Catalyst from the alien fossil a movie instead of 5 min of play time
- they extract Black Catalyst , it makes contact with a lifeform then it turns into an alien , alien abducts people , turns them into ovomorphs , they you get facehuggers out of the ovomorphs
Same. 4/10 and only because of the effects team.
The way I read the iconic line - "bitch" is what Björn kept calling Andy, who as a learning AI could pick it up and use it as a derogatory. Obviously that's not why they went with it, but I thought it was a nice way of building it in.
yeah, it's just TOO MUCH though. Too many of these lines all the way through it takes me out of story and makes me think about the original films right at the moment I want to be focused on the NEW ONE I'm actually watching.
I didn’t know this beforehand but the movie was shot in Hungary and as it is evident from the credits a lot of Hungarians worked on the film.
During the movie there is this short scene where Taylor and Rain cross from the Romulus section to Remus and they go through a corridoor with an escalator. I jokingly turned to my friend and told him it reminds me of a well known metro station in Budapest and lo and behold it really was that station lol
The same station was probably used in the Hungarian movie Control (2003).
Also there's a brief moment at the beginning of the movie where some random kids in the background speak hungarian :))
@@matyaskassay4346 Yeah I thought that too but I didn't fully register it.
What is the name of the subway station - I want to visit it! :D
My only true criticism is that the xenomorph doesn't feel like the real antagonistic force, is not a relentless nightmare nor there are many memorable scenes featuring it. There are too many threatening distractions. I think that's a mortal sin since this could re introduce the creature with all the practical effect they did. But I believe this is the cost of making straight up horror with less conceptual subtext.
I knew that Ridley was getting something of this movie when he was featured as a producer. The real question now is if they made a deal with him. One movie to see if people are still interested and maybe he can continue his prequel movies. I hope they don't go full Disney with a nostalgia fueled trilogy.
How did exactly WY got the facehugger "blueprints" to clone then?
What does it mean that the offspring is half engineer?
Prometheus is now canon, which means the following we will be getting another prequel film
Maybe with time I'll begin to appreciate it more. We can still walk away remembering astonishing cinematography when the xenomorph was featured
I agree. I wanted more of the lone Xenomorph hunting the group. The first few scenes when it comes out of its egg/shell thing are absolutely perfect...and then it loses its scariness when they introduce the guns and then hive. And the big monster at the end isn't even the Alien we're all here for. Overall I loved the movie but it has its issues.
The xeno that came from Navarro was pretty intimidating, wish we got more of that, instead it just rejoins the hive and becomes cannon fodder
It made $122 million dollars at the box office.😊
Good
Yeah well ppl nowadays don't require any acting talent!
It is a really good film
hopefully we don’t get any more from this hack director. The movie was poorly written with bland actors
@@paulwoodford1984bait
There's no way i could have suspended disbelief if Big Chap had been brought back after the airlock and rocket exhaust.
Technically it was, it wrecked havoc on the station before the events of the film and we see its corpse
@@shadow-squid4872 which is my point. They expect us to just go along with that and it's preposterous.
@@Skippy2Ton I mean we did see it drift away in the movie, it’s not like it disintegrated or anything so it cocooning itself isn’t that too far fetched in my opinion
@@Skippy2Ton But it was clearly not damaged by the engine exhaust in the first movie
yeah I hear ya, they should have got another one from the juggernaut on LV246
Finally got a chance to see it, and I must say - it was amazing. If I rank the Alien movies from best to worst, it's this for me: Alien, Aliens, Romulus, Alien 3, Prometheus, Covenant, Resurrection. Andy and Rain were superb, both actors absolutely nailed their roles. The return of Ash (albeit as Rook) was a pleasant surprise and I really felt he fit perfectly into this story. The lo-fi retro-tech aesthetic fit so well with the first two films and the game Isolation. The general pacing, story and action scenes were great. The new alien's birth scene was fittingly shocking.
I agree some of the call-backs were too on the nose and a bit jarring, also there was a bit of that convenient suspension of belief - such as how Rain is warned that her gun only has one mag, yet even when apparently almost empty, it somehow seems to have unlimited ammo. But I can forgive these gripes as they are pretty minor.
All in all, it's not just a worthy addition to the franchise for me, it's one of the best Alien movies to date. As much as I like Alien 3 I have to say Romulus is better. The first two movies are near perfect films, but Romulus is not far from their level. It's so good and I'm so happy we got it.
yeah, but at the same time Isolation did the same thing back in 2014 but it was vastly superior in every aspect - characters, world building, tension and genuinely being scary - and clearly a huge influence on Romulus. Just make a film version of Isolation!
I don't remember ever being as happy at the movies as I was watching romulus
i had the exact opposite reaction
Shit was super cool in hindsight, just seen an alien movie in general in theaters. I wish I would have seen Alien Resurrection in theaters
I couldn’t wipe the smile off the rest of the day.
Same.
Was only one of two movies I saw this summer and was happy with them both.
Regardless of how I feel about it’s effect on the lore or story pacing, the engineer/xeno/baby/man thing got an audible gasp from pretty much my entire theater….the lack of a jarring musical sting, and instead letting its weird black-eyed face silently unsettle the viewer I thought was a VERY effective scare
He he,then google the actor od this abomination! (Even worse,it looks like that but more human,and the guy REALLY has "gigantism",a disease where u grow continuously)
I agree. It totally worked. For me, it was a Fede Alvarez moment. It was one of the best horror moments in the movie. Also, this movie made me jump about 5 times...that is hard to do!
That part wasn't scary just really cringe and bad
That's exactly when i lost it. It looked super cringe and ridiculous. Totally killed the movie for me, im very disappointed
@@anthonyml7 Totally agree, it looked like a naked Slenderman. We definitely didn't need this part
I saw a channel complaining about Rook being in the film, stating they should have instead used Bishop yet again, bring back Fassbender which would have been crazy expensive and also just raise more questions about Prometheus/ Alien Covenant, or somehow use Call from Alien Resurrection. But from my understanding, she's an android made by other androids and that canonically didn't happen until later in the timeline. Personally I didn't mind seeing Ash/Rook one last time. I doubt they'll use him again as a model and probably will either introduce a new model or maybe give us another Andy or maybe even Working Joes.
I'm just happy we got a very brutal Alien movie that didn't try to be high art like the two prequels, nothing wrong with that but when they get cold feet and can't be bothered to follow through the vision and instead knee jerk react to people who don't have the whole picture. I really wished we could have gotten the actual storyline followed through but I highly doubt we'll ever really get the true follow up to the events of Alien Covenant. So somewhere in the universe, David is just out there doing his thing.
I would rather have had Rook and this film than Scott's previous ones.
Pointless. The character of the android is a dumb topic because it has zero impact on the story and lore in general. It could have been anyone and it would not have mattered the same. Whats the point in arguing about it?
Oh yeah it’s a brutal movie alright. Brutally bad lol.
@@jaworski105 read the room and fuck off
My main qualm with the prequels is that they ruined the mystery of the xenomorph (and the space jockey) by seeming to imply that the Engineers created it. This movie not only corrects that implication, but fills in all the holes in the chronology that the prequels created. In CGI Ian Holm's exposition dump, he mentions that the genetic accelerant (black goo) was sourced from the facehuggers, and that it is the main biological building block of the species. I took this to mean that the Engineers did the same - they did not create the xenomorph, but they worshipped the xeno's perfection and sought to imbue themselves of that perfection. The Engineers, too, derived the black goo from the xenomorphs and experimented upon themselves, in turn creating humanity. This is why the Offspring in the third act of Romulus has the face of an Engineer - it is a full-circle moment, the ultimate culmination of the experiments conducted by both the Company and the Engineers.
The black substance, the "Prometheus strain" as they called it, is the fire of the gods. By tampering with this fire, both the Engineers and humanity meet the same end. I found this a compelling way to complete the themes of the prequels, as well as provide a better explanation as to why the events of the sequels unfold the way they do, such as the mutations in Resurrection. I found that to be poetic and satisfying.
Overall, this movie was a solid 4/5 for me. It would have matched the original Alien and Aliens in excellence if it were not for the CGI Holm and the direct quotes from other movies - I found these elements incredibly distracting, and they could have so easily removed or done differently. The production design, score, and cinematography were top-notch. The character motivations were clear, and my investment in the story was grounded in the two leads. I appreciated that the cast was trimmed down to a few principal players and not overly bogged down by so many extraneous side characters like all the sequels. Even Aliens, which I consider a pretty perfect movie, is filled with one-note characters who exist only to die. I think that's a necessary element for this sort of genre, to an extent.
The movie did an incredible job at establishing the precariousness of humanity. Space is endless and unknowable, and we are not fit to occupy it. No other Alien movie has enforced this theme so wonderfully since the original. From the uncaring capitalist hegemony of Weyland-Yutani shown in the opening act, to the rickety little spaceship ascending to the station - I felt the characters' vulnerability in my bones, metaphorically and literally through the impeccable sound design which had me shaking. I appreciated that they connected that vulnerability back to the pursuit of perfection.
Prequels don't exist in my head Canon. Shame this film referenced them....
You know, the Engineers worshipping the Xenomorphs does line up with that weird mural they had on the ship, the one with the Deacon in the middle and a couple of facehuggers on engineers at the bottom
I never got the vibe that David created them anyway, the mural showed Xenos already existed before, I always saw it as David making his version but not the actual creature itself, I also really enjoy the theory that the Space Jockey was something even older then the Engineers and they, like with the Xeno, adopted it and its tech into their culture
I still hold the position that this was a movie that the franchise needed to remind people of it and get it back into the sites of more people as there are 8 other movies in the franchise and that might seem daunting to new people. Its a movie built to get people to watch more Alien movies. Now that we have all that out of the way we can now do new things with the series.
That Ian Holm effect ripped me out of the film so hard I got whiplash 😂 At one point during an action scene, they randomly did a quick cutaway shot of him that caught me off guard and I audibly laughed out loud.
@@ZarkAttack it's like fede saw the weakest effect in Alien 79 (the ash head) and said I want an entire sequence OF THAT.
@@HumanHamCube Problem here is, the Ash head is arguably the better effect.
I have 3 gripes with this movie.
1 : the incubation time 2 : "the Ash effect" 3 : almost the entire pseudo Alien 4 ending
@ph8enix idk when Ripley hits the head and the mold shifts it's the worst cut in the film. The shot should have been the B cam pointed at ripley having her hit the fake head.
@ph8enix some people are calling it the Zuckermorph I think that's pretty funny
@@HumanHamCubethink ya can do a crappy dismembered android effect Ridley? Watch me work (Fede Alvarez probably)
Andy was my favorite character. The foibles were so on-point, and the close-up shots of him trying to assess and comprehend the subtext of what was being said to him were so moving.
He looked like he was on the verge of tears the whole time.
Same here. He was the hero.
The actor was great but ironically they had him play the character too dynamically IMO
How is there anything left of the Nostromo? I seem to remember 3 seperate nuclear detonations in Alien.
Even if there was anything left big enough to be useful it should have substantial velocity imparted by the explosions.
And why the fuck was the original Alien within the wreckage of the Nostromo when Ripley was miles away in the escape shuttle when she blew it out of the goddamn airlock
And how would WY know that big chap was floating out there? Movie is full of holes
It's a pointless intro , they make xenomorphs have superhero traits.
- no way they survive in space
- the blood acid ain't that powerfull to burn thru multiple levels of a ship
I fucken loved the Offspring, it’s genuinely unnerving to look at and the practical effects are incredible.
haha yeah it was nasty and looked like one of David's sketches brought to life 😁
I just acknowledged that Rook was another Hyperdine 120 A2. While a lot of hate has been given for the film, I enjoyed it in the theater with my Dad, who got me into the franchise to begin with. A solid B to B- film.
Being better than Prometheus or Covenant doesn't make it a good movie. It was subpar at best
Why would they have more than one Ian Holm looking robot if they want to keep it a secret he’s an android?
It seemed like a budgetary waste. They could have saved millions for that ancillary effect.
@@spenser9908his model of synthetic line wasn’t mainline at the time of Alien, most likely. Before Alien, the only synthetic model that was common was David after all
The movie rocked .. I'm tired of listening to the complainers who think they're so observant and smart because they didn't like the callbacks. I mean .. Who cares? None of it was THAT bad .. Sure it would've been nice if there was less of it. But the movie was still a blast. Try something different like Prometheus and everyone cries , go back to straight up formula and everyone cries. You can't please these weirdos.. It's like a religion or something. I think people like this should stay away from franchise movies they've got that sort of attachment to. It's like the stuff they enjoy is who they are .. they define their identities through the entertainment they consume. Alien 1 and 2 are masterpieces that will never be replicated. Get over it people. In the end, .. They're just movies.
It could be worse for Big Chap.
Imagine the Predator dancing and using Big Chap's body parts to annihilate the Weyland Yutani scientists, while a boyband song is played.
I'm pretty sure that was in AvP: Requiem.
@@kennyleung9909 don't give Fede "ideas"
BYE BYE BYE! ah hell nah
Dance in Predator 2 was kinda cool.
@@volodymyrbilyk555 LMFAO. I just looked it up, I never even knew about that. Thanks! 🤣
« Fede Alvarez grew up on the movies. He’s a big Alien nerd. He’s one of us. » Damn right.
But didn't know the ending was Resurrection?!!
@@HumanHamCube It was so much less goofy the way it was handled though. The execution is miles better .. "It ain't what you do it's the way that you do it."
@@Fiveash-Art I kind of preferred resurrections meta camp. It leaned in to ifs absurdity and somehow felt more genuine.
@@Fiveash-Art I can at least agree with you here.
He's a clown. An amateur who doesn't know Aliens inside out. The weak plot point of having the Alien survive 😂 or his dodgy half hour Facehugger impregnation process. Or the gimmicky zero g acid blood thst never touches the walls or floor. Or the weak DEI android. Only to use CGI Ash in a cringe sequence
The director is amateur at best. He has no idea about casting the right actors or making an interesting film. His techniques are amateur at best
I think they missed a glorious opportunity to bring back body horror to this movie by explaining the facehuggers on the station were the result of The Big Chap abducting crew members and converting them to eggs via ovamorphing. While a callback to the original, it would have been original in as much as it's never been seen in a released film.
I saw the original opening night when I was nine. My dad asked if I wanted to go see a movie, sure I said, what? Alien, it's science fiction I think. 😂
Am I the only one who thought the Rook character was a bit of a plot hole? It was a surprise to the Nostromo crew that Ash was an android, it was a highly sensitive, classified and last minute assignment for Ash, it doesn't make sense that there would be multiple "Ash models" running around the Alien universe, especially with the new canon "Mini CD Drives" on their necks... Like if there was more than one "Ash" model the others on the Nostromo crew could have instantly recognised him as an Android and knew something strange was going on...
The way I see it is 1. It's 20 years later and 2 it's on a top secret station so general population wouldn't see him
good point! I read it that there was probably some secret conspricy of Ash/Rook model synthetics working within The Company to develop the Prometheus project/xenomorph - likely created by David himself after he Mini CD drive hacked Walter on Planet 4 😅
@@J0MBi Tbh I have the same issue with the Terminator films. In the canon there's multiple infiltrator 'skins' whereas in the films they all look like Arnie
Anyone else struggling with the fact that the station only had one EEV with five pods??? But I did love the callback to the EEV in the first place as a plot point. Honorable entry to the Alien Franchise. Overall I loved it.
I also had a big problem with the gestation period. How long does Ripley walk around with a queen inside her in Alien³? A few days, 2 weeks?
I think a few days. 3 or 4
Just a simple "Get away from her!" would have sufficed.
@@coolmuztDisney just had to Disney
'Get away from her you bug' was what popped into my head as an alternative lame but better than what we got.
Movie was good just good nothing spectacular. 6/10
@@usmanakhtar1845 it was amazing,my favorite Alien movie in the franchise to me. 10/10
Ian Holm's autobiography is a fascinating read... The part about the experience making _Alien_ is especially interesting.
Your missing the significance of the Facehugger only being on her for a short time. It clearly did not gestate the embryo long enough. It barely had enough strength to fully burst out of her chest. It was a “pre-term birth”. This is why the Xenomorph had to cocoon itself to grow further and fully. (like a neonate child having to incubate further in the NICU).
Why would the unready foetus birth itself early? Surely it would just stay with the host longer.
Huh?
@@necrographical Remember they removed the facehugger by freezing it off? That stops gestation. The facehugger does not implant an “egg”. It actually secrets a genetic material that combines with the hosts DNA and grows the chestburster through rapid evolution. So, removing the facehugger early, like in this movie, aborts any further growth and this is why it had to come out early and cocoon itself, or risk death.
@callmeviper7723 What is this based off of? Why would it not grow longer in the host? How do we know the cocoon is not standard practice of the chestburster to adult?
@@PatrickOMulligan What is it based off of? Not anything canon, or sensible.
Imagine if the pregnant Kay, not Rain, had unexpectedly turned out to be our "final girl," the way Ripley did in the original. Imagine if it was her standing over the last dead alien stowaway, and her wearing the Miraculous Medal around her neck earlier in the film had turned out to be a thematic hint of the triumph to come.
"And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth"; "Our Lady has already crushed his head".
That would have been a movie for all time. It's the kind of edifying victory that "A Quiet Place" did so well.
I cant wait to see Alien:Romulus a third time this Sunday.
One aspect i feel doesnt get nearly enough credit is the sound design of this movie. Its SOOOOOO good dude!!
Yes...Oscar worthy
When the movie isn't assaulting your eardrums with pointless stings it was nice, but nearly every single scare came with horrible musical ques
Since we know that Ash was a last minute replacement on the ship, and we know that the company knew there was something out that way, I love the idea that Ash came from Renaissance originally. Rook may have been one of several Ian Holm science officer androids working on this stuff, and Ash just happened to be the one selected to go in deep cover.
Winnona Ryders character would be nice to see again.
With them big diddies
Also: the Get away from her line doesn’t seem like a line Andy would say…
My brother and I were talking about that, we were thinking it would have made more sense if the cocky kid said it to Andy earlier in the film and letting him learn and set it up later.
Just doesn’t make sense for the character to say it.
The bully called Andy a bitch multiple times. Thats why he added it to "get away from her".
becuase it's nostalgia bait and poor writing/imagination
Might have been better if it was slightly modified….”Back off…Bitch!
@@GZP1023 I'm not sure why more people haven't picked up on this and how he even kinda stumbles his way through saying it
Ian Holm actually looks quite alright in some shots but a few of the shots specifically his mouth and jaw when he's monologuing absolutely do not work.
--I think the main issue is that the facial muscles do not match the voice performance. If you listen to just a speaking performance you can visualize the brow furrow and cheek crease in your head just from the tone and cadence of the voice. What we were hearing did not match the animation on screen.
I wish they would make it so that Kay would survive at the end of the movie!
To me, that extra creature and ending duel seemed unnecessary in the movie's purposes for more action, but Kay also went through so much and the actor did so well that I wanted her to make it through the end. She could have even made it through pregnant easily if she didn't take the black goo, and we could have ended it there, but I would at least find the dilemma of what to do with a creature that is technically your child interesting if they wanted to go there. They almost seemed to when "The Offspring" seemed to be putting his down on his mother's bosom, but that idea's probably not a good option. Still, I wished Kay survived. I liked her just a little better than Raine
I'd put the movie between Alien 3 and 4 and the prequels, somewhere in there, similar to Alien Theory. I really like it when first seeing it, but I really now that it has a lot of script and logic problems, even if the acting, visuals, and music are great.
Weyland Yutani wouldn’t even sink this low…😳😳😳
The engineers may be humanity's brother - And they hate us because they want to be the "perfect sibling"
As for Romulus...hmm I found it to be too teenage actiony which i dislike - They need to make an alien movie like e.g Interstellar/Dune with a serious tone and more to the thriller side
The engineers want to destroy humans because they created humans by sacrificing themselves and when they saw us killing each other they realised humans are a problem if they leave Earth
I thought the movie was really strong up until the point Navarro gets facehugged. After that, there's this distinct shift toward fanservice and 'member berries. "Get away from her you b****" made me want to boo in the theater.
As a lifelong Alien fan I can tell this was all conceived for my benefit, but for me its as equally tiresome as The Mandalorian. Take something we love and turn it to key-jangling. Fingers crossed Alien gets something more like Andor.
I'm happy the film is doing well and people like it. It still has a lot of merit- especially David Jonsson. That dude is a star.
I would've been much happier had 'Big Chap" appeared at the end of Romulus instead of that goofy ass "Offspring"!
Same here!
Evolved into a praetorian perhaps? 👀
@@jaworski105 oh that would have been sweet
the body we see earlier would have been a shed husk
@@Xenomorthian I knooooooow. Imagine that instead of the shitty Offspring??
The offspring is not for everyone, but i loved it. Horrifying.
Speaking of merchandise for the film. Here in the UK, siren craft brewery have released a beer aptly named “something in the water” to coincide with the release of the film which is pretty cool
I love that! So awesome and tense of a name. Perfect. 🙏✨ I wish America thought of that.
Alien and Aliens is hard to top because were 1st ; but I would say Romulus is the third best movie in the franchise they're moving in the right direction. Romulus feels like an Alien movie.
Always love your videos! I saw it tonight and I loved it. I was surprised at how good the cinematography was. It looks incredible. Loved all the nods to Alien Isolation, too.
Hmm big chap was blown out of the shuttle not the nostramo. Can't find Ripley's escape shuttle for 57 years but can find an alien floating in space. Hmm that could have been better
@@nickolas6060 they didn't want to find her shuttle
@@HumanHamCubeWY had no way of knowing the Alien was floating in space
Dumb movie. So many plot holes in it
@@HumanHamCube well if they knew about all of this why didn't they just go straight to lv426?? mother directed them to do so. This is supposed to be before aliens yeah? It was just stupid. Must have been a better way to do this
I think that keeping BIG CHAP as the “ PARENT “ if you will of all the FACE HUGGERS AND OTHER ALIENS was PERFECT! I didnt want BIG CHAP making this miraculous survival as it was but it was JUST ENOUGH ( FOR ME ) he birthed the franchise and his LEGACY is sealed FOREVER…… I DO LIKE HOW THEY USED ASH/ROOK AND HOW THEY LINKED ROOK AND BISHOP AS THE LIFE GAME OF “ CHESS” each move has deadly consequences!!! And how they used ANDY and uploaded the other droids info and his change back and forth was AWESOME !!! I LOVED ROMULOUS AND I CANT WAIT TO SEE “ ALIEN: EARTH 🌎 but my biggest wish that NETFLIX / DISNEY WOULD RELEASE THE “ ALIEN vs PREDATOR ANIME” the 11 episode anime was completely finished 100% just before DISNEY bought the rights to ALIEN FRANCHISE I hope one day it will be released !
agreed brother!
They wasted millions on that effect. If a special effect is distracting and detracting it's neither an effect or special.
@@HumanHamCube on making ROOK look like ash ? Is that what your referring to?
Big chap died in alien 1.
- honestly they should have just gone with the colony ship from Covenant
@keyboardking8008 but then they wouldn't need the derelict or the nostromo?
That’s the first problem, big chap should never have been found in the wreckage of the Nostromo. Firstly he was blown out of the escape shuttle, which at the time of destruction was no where near the Nostromo otherwise it would have been blown away too. When the escape shuttle leaves the Nostromo it travelled backwards away from it as you can see from the shots of the windscreen, so if anything when Ripley blew the alien out of the airlock gravity should have taken it FURTHER away from the Nostromo. Also, the harpoon gun she shoots it with would have melted away not present like it was in Romulus. And that’s just the first of the many plots holes
There was a gap between escaping the nostromo and Ripley prepping for cryo in the shuttle, plausible that the shuttle was orientated differently for where she was attempting to float to. Still I agree, the chances big chap would end up in the nostromo debris field are slim.
There's a lot they stretch and count on audiences to buy into but it doesn't work IMO, unless you've never seen the first 2
THANK YOU I noticed the many plot holes in the movie and was like wtf?
Not to mention this being the most valuable asset in the universe for the company and they just forgot about it along with a trillion dollar space station.
Come to think of it, if Raine removed the chip from Rook to upgrade Andy, why didn’t affect Rook - made him dumber or something
I also love the implcations of Big Chap being here means the queen from Aliens is still alive, probably cocooned, floating out in deep space.
Now, the question is: will the next movie be about the spacestation lab or follow the final girl?
Andy with the dad jokes like Father from Raised by Wolves. Then that lead me to think about MU-TH-UR 6000 "MOTHER", and Mother from Raised by Wolves being the prefect Artificial Human giving birth to what also reminds me of Shaw, being a host for the Trilobite Im Prometheus.. ahhhhhh I love this universe!!! Such complex story telling.
Raised by Wolves for me is the best thing since Alien
Too bad there won't be a third season of that show, they left off on a pretty big cliff hanger...
i completely agree about the "get away from her you bitch" line mainly because it's like THE alien quote. the others I can get your argument cause I usually feel the same way but I didn't mind them at all. I went to see it with my partner that had seen all the movies once but isn't a die-hard fan and he didn't even pick up on any other quotes but that one
"Partner" is such a gay term.
The Alien Resurrection newborn and the Romulus offspring were both bad ideas. Don't have your audience invested in a villain/creature for the whole movie only to introduce something different right at the end. Not to mention both looked ridiculous. Killed Romulus for me.
Yeah, introducing the queen at the end of aliens ruined it
@@GZP1023 it was still an Alien and not a different species of animal, and in addition it was discussed earlier in the movie something unseen must be laying the eggs, so the audience was expecting something was coming and it was a bigger and glorious Alien. An ALIEN!
@avid4d15 exactly. There was build up to the Queen and she was AMAZING.
Totally agree. I threw my eyes to heaven when I saw this new thing getting born. How ridiculous. It just shits over everything.
It looked amazing wtf. I have to disagree. It looks creepy and unnatural, almost absurd it’s supposed too because of that.
I watched your video the day after after my first watch of Alien: Romulus, and I went to see it again last night with a lot of your points still in mind. Watching this again, I completely agree with pretty much every single point raised. I don’t understand the negative feedback this film seems to be getting on a lot of fans Facebook pages. My first Alien film was ALIENS back in 1986, and this new film tickled me pink, despite a few moments here and there that, agreeably, should have definitely been left out.
“THAT’s what’s best for Rain!” would have been better; 100%
I liked seeing "Ash" again. I liked the callbacks to the other films. I feel it's a sign of respect and saying "I know my history." I was not a big fan of the "Offspring." It's confusing and I see people on the internet mislabeling it as an Engineer. It's not. I kept thinking they were building up to a Queen reveal only for it to be the black goo. This film kept me on my toes and was just so well done that I have to personally rank the films as follows: 1. Aliens 2. Alien: Romulus 3. Alien 4. Alien 3 then pick all the rest out of a hat because it's irrelevant at that point.
Alien: Romulus is a worthy successor and has breathed new life into the franchise. The people that worked on this film did so well and understand the ethos of the Alien universe that they should be allowed to do another movie with an increased budget.
I was hoping for more Gore. I wanted to see that annoying kid's face melt away by the acid and not just his fingers. And I was hoping to see some really gnarly bloody birthing scene of the chestburster but it just was kind of meh to me. I loved the movie overall. But I just wanted more eye popping moments to really push it out there.
Yeah I was expecting just a little more gore, especially coming from Fede. The Offspring, though...
Disney.
I felt completely let down not seeing that kid get completely melted into oblivion.
Was waiting for your review! I loved Romulus but my mind didn’t even consider that the original alien could’ve been used as the main menace in Romulus. That would’ve been pretty amazing. And am I the only one who preferred the xenomorphs over the hybrid? It wasn’t that fascinating to me.
Absolutely love the xenos, the hybrid scared the shit out of me like some sleep paralysis nightmare demon thing - new monster, actually felt visceral disgust and fear over it
I prefer the Xenos too.
The Nostromo exploded 3 times, which appeared to be nuclear..evaporated, and they still find pieces of it floating around, including the name plate. Not to mention finding big chap. I just can't suspend that much disbelief. Those are just the surface level issues I had with it. The aliens were supposed to be the star of the film but instead got turned into shooting gallery fodder one at a time down a hallway. Sad Andy face.
The movie is just bad. So many cringe scenes and plot holes.
The setup is just not plausible. As you say, a nuclear explosion, three times. There would be next to nothing left of the Nostromo. Also, any debris (anything not vapurised) would be pushed away from the point of explosion at speed. People are doting on this film, but it feels like a fan film, picking al the elemets they loke, including dialogue. This film is far from an Alien film and there are better directors than Fede out there.
Hear hear. This film was RUBBISH and people praising it are clearly not true Alien fans.
The initial explosion would have thrown a lot of debries clear, but if trapped in a large enough gravity we'll, IE orbiting around a large planet, the remains would eventually drift back together (orbital mechanics are fun like that), ironically I find it stranger that it exploded three times, once, sure, twice, perhaps the refinery's reactor chained off too... the third time? What was left to explode? Was the Nostromo's FTL drive that volatile maybe? Who knows.
I certainly believe large chunks of the Nostromo would remain, far more likely than say... the Death star, which had a reactor powerful enough to destroy planets, no way that thing wouldn't be atomized by its own explosion
Bros voice over makes it more interesting. Its like listening directly from the in game character or movie actor . Probably my favorite. You belong in the Alien universe bro. Keep up the efforts.
I've seen it twice and loved it even more the second time around! I pretty much feel the exact same way as you. The movie could have done without the call back lines and I didn't know how to feel about the new hybrid the first time around. On my second go it didn't bother me at all. While the movie isn't perfect I love what Fede did with it and would love to see more in this world from him. Both my screenings were standard, but I would love to see this in IMAX. I've heard it's AMAZING. I was able to get my hands on the Xeno head from Cinemark and the Facehugger Continament Unit bucket from Regal which I had to drive 2 hours round trip for, but my god was it worth it! It feels so good to see this franchise talked about so positively again!
13:57 great point, you get to be like, "yup don't trust him" and can focus on other stuff
The part where Fede Alvarez claims it wasn't homage to Alien Resurrection is kinda bunk.
The Theme music from Alien Resurrection plays during the "offspring" death. Either he (Fede) didn't know of his own movie or the music was added so far post it was out of his hands.
I imagine it's more a case of "I have to say nice things about Scott and link everything to him". At least I hope it is.
@@ptonpc That doesn't make any sense. The offspring could easily be an homage to resurrection and prometheus both. The way it's born is homage to the first and his face is literally an engineers face so...
@@OneKauz he has a lot of inconsistencies in his interviews
@ptonpc meanwhile Ridley is low key sabotaging the film bc audiences didn't love his lofty pretentious 8th grade western civ/philosophy Ancient Aliens episodes. He's grumpy like grandpa after taking his car keys away. His films actually look like imaginative original master pieces compared to AR
That ending was just the roles in Resurrection flip flopped lol. Instead of the Queen birthing and Xeno/human hybrid, it was a human birthing a Human/xeno hybrid!!! Wooooooah Fede slow down with the original ideas! I can’t process em all!
considering how important the Renaissance Space Station was it didn't seem like Weyland-Yutani or the gov't made a recovery effort.
The biggest plot hole in the movie.
I could buy the company not having people in the immediate area, but i was definitely surprised we didnt see any other scavengers/local law enforcement appear on the station part way in.
Poor writing
Exactly. Even the Marines would be rescued after 17 days of no-contact. Apparently, the Alien specimens aren't that important to WY
@@Billbeaux How? The incident didn't happen too long, and the robot said the message he sent to the company would take months to arrive, They wouldn't have enough time to receive the transmission and get there
I know some novels have talked about the potential of every drone, once separated from their queen, having the ability to become a queen themselves. I would have loved the big chap to become a hive queen. The presence of face huggers but no eggs kinda bothered me.
Too much too fast is a good description of Alien Romulus
- usually you would have the alien
- alien steals crew and melts them into ovomorphs
- facehuggers burst out of the ovomorphs
- then you can clone them
Huge fan of the Alien series and this channel
Loved Romulus, it did not disappoint but I had a few thoughts only true Xenofiles might appreciate
1. Andy's name should have been Eddy or Ezekiel or any name beginning with "E" to keep with tradition
Unless the names are actually musical notes... A, B, B, C, D, D, A?
2. It would have been better to see "Kay" mutate into "something" from injecting the black goo rather than just than just the offspring, personally I thought that was the point, to see what we'd become if we took it and evolved 1000+ years
3. Rook... Bishop... very nice underhanded there, wish all of the call backs were this slight (but alas...)
Thanks again for the channel face hugs to you all
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As long as They were not Using Holm's likeness for malicious purposes (it's clearly wasn't) I don't see any harm with it and in terms of in Universe context it's not unreasonable to assume that Ash was a mass produced android model
loved seeing Ash again (Rook) and Holm
Mostly agree had no issues with him being brought back like this. Although him bring a mass produced model is a bit silly since Ash was sent by the company as a covert android without the crew knowing.
Wouldn’t make much sense to have an android that you send under cover to pose as human also be a mass produced model.
Consider it a limited run then @@BigHeadClan
Big chap dying offscreen was honestly my biggest gripe with the film.
Would have ruined the pacing
@@Kattytatty02 the pacing was already garbage 🤷🏼♂️
@@Billbeauxinternet boy thinks he’s a filmmaker.
Big Chap was basically almost dead by the time Ripley’s blasted it into the vacuum of space. Its corpse could’ve served as the basis for the artificial facehuggers and black goo but I don’t buy the idea of Big Chap some how being resuscitated by the company
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You don't need to be a chief to know the food you eat is trash.
Even though it's just a plot contrivence I have a theory that the reason the xenomorph gestation period is insanely fast in Romulus is directly related to the origin of the facehugger. The facehuggers in Romulus originate directly from the synthesized pathogen as stated by Rook and a screen in the facehugger storage bay that says "printing in process". We've seen in Prometheus and Covenant that the pathogen causes embryos to gestate insanely fast such as the neomorph and praetomorph gestating and maturing in less than a day whereas the xenomorphs in any of the original movies took hours to days to gestate and mature.
Thats... A good point.
Exactly this.
After watching it a second time Rook does mention that they did engineer it so it could slow down or increase its gestation and growth time depending on its environment
@@DJ-kp7mfno is not. It's making excuses for bad writing and lack of consistency
It was something I noticed watching the film, lots of people are saying "Plot holes!" when there are explanations for what is happening on screen.
Something else I thought of at the time, the face hugger was removed early and when the chest buster comes out, it seemed to take more effort and the CB moved more slowly and awkwardly, as if it was premature and not quite 'cooked' yet.
@@clampmotosua1789 I literally said at the start of my comment that the growth speed was a plot contrivence lol.
The movie peaked when the first adult Xeno was born and we got a very Alien Isolation-esque scene as it stalks and eventually takes the girl. I wish we got more of that. One very powerful, smart and scary Xeno hunting them down 1 by 1 and all they can do is hide because there's just no hope until they find some smart way to escape.
I was very hopeful when they pulled out the guns to temporarily scare it off because it's smart enough to threat assess. It reminded me of the flame thrower in Isolation. Sadly they went with gunning down almost every Xeno as they just float there like lemons despite Rook saying 20 minutes earlier that they're so perfect that even gravity is of no consequence to them. Movie fell apart there for me and only got worse when the monster we went there to see was swept aside in favour of yet another hybrid.
That's exactly how I felt.
I completely disagree Romulus took the best parts of alien and aliens and made it into its own movie.
yes exactly , the alien should be more powerful and extremely difficult to deal with like in isolation
It's bad decision to give aliens superhero characteristics
- no way they can survive in space
- acid yes melts but not that much that it goes thru several floor of a space station
Bravo, great review! I just have now seen A.R. for the first time, and you have almost perfectly captured every impression l took away from the film. Most importantly, l think the character of Andy was the highlight of the film, and the actor who played him was, in his own, very different way, as effective as Fassbender playing both David and Walter. And l had never expected to see such a great performance in any Alien film ever again, but he absolutely delivered. I sincerely hope we'll get a sequel to this, just so l can can get more Andy in my life.
Also, my initial impression of the usage of Ian Holmes' likeness in a new character was that it was extremely well and respectfully done. If his family is happy with it, then so am l.
The story needed some polish and a little less nostalgic play in it to be honest. I enjoyed it but again, some polish is needed. It’s a 7.5 out of ten for me.
That being said, I’m very surprised/impressed this was done for about eighty million dollars.
Agree entirely! Plus I think it was really kind of dumbed down in the name of seeming modernized. It felt far more like movie set after movie set, rather than a truly immersive world.
Yeah, as many have pointed out, it’s the Force Awakens of the franchise.
5-6/10 for me. Massive letdown