I think its lovely too. But. Bartok intended the piece to take 4 minutes played piano solo. I love this piece partly because of its roots in folk music. I think played this slow it only distances the music from its roots.
i dont know whom, but i want to thank..... thank god , thank bartok, thank those who played this version, thank the one who uploaded this for us to access it, thank the ones who made recording technology and internet, thank the romanian people and all people on earth from whos mind came all this beautiful melodies.... THANK U FOR THIS MUSIC AND THAT I CAN LISTEN TO IT
Kitty Scherbatskaya The most important greeting should also be paid to the Menuhin's valuable tutor, the notable Romanian composer Georghe Enescu (both of them can be seen together in a picture on 4:11 in the video). In my opinion, being taught by such a great composer led Menuhin not only perform (such a composition which is culturally related to his tutor) technically perfect but also empathatetical as well. It is also worth mentioning that both Béla Bartok and Georghe Enescu are contemporaries and their immortal compositions of "Romanian Folk Dances" and "Romanian Rhapsodies No.1&2" had been composed and met with the audiences approximately in the same years of the early 20th century. When listened together, all these immortal works enable listeners to get a "Big picture" as all of them had been inspired from the melodies of the different regions that make up the current Romania. So, thanks for Béla Bartok for the composition; thanks for Georghe Enescu for presenting us a notable virtuoso and thanks to Yehudi Menuhin for his unique, emphatic and soul-catching performance. I am sure that both Bartok and Enescu would applause Menuhin after listened to this recording. Deep respects to all of them...
@@onix6394 "Va mulțumesc" to your kindest comments😊👍Having visited Romania in April 2016, I can easily say that your country and your culture is really very inspiring, very rich and very impressing🇷🇴👍 "Salutarii din Istanbul, Turchia😊🇹🇷"
Menuhin was an incredible human being in addition to artist. Collaborations with Wilhelm Furtwangler and with Glenn Gould were not for the faint of heart.
There is a lot to say about how we perceive the tempo. Are we influenced by contemporary interpretations, or looking for speed as a show of virtuosity? Personally, a surprising, unconventional, new tempo makes me rethink the work, projects a new light on it, even if I prefer a different tempo. It is your favorite dish prepared by different very skilled chefs. We should compare, evaluate, understand, rather than apply labels. Now, that was 1944 and it’s about Romania....
Julia, estoy feliz de haberte escuchado con los temas de tu graduación. Estoy absolutamente orgullosa por el simple hecho de haberte conocido antes de todo este perfeccionamiento. Estás tocando maravillosamente, estoy emocionada. Felicitaciones y éxitos, que los mereces. Muchísimos besos tesoro.
Does anybody know in which album we can find these tracks ? Menhuin has recorded different versions for these dances, but I would like to find this one in the original album
I really wish this first dance had a little more pep to it.... maybe the piano is dragging it down? I'm just not able to imagine dancing to this, and I like slow dancing.... something else is wrong... it's like plodding through gray mud
@kinor Spielman I don't know what you're agreeing with. I really don't care about 'most modern performances', what I care about is artistry. I've heard excellent performances of the Roumanian Dances that vary in tempo considerably one from another. I hear Yehudi Menuhin's heart and soul in this performance, and that's worth a lot, don't you think?
Yeah, right -- what did Menuhin know about the Romanian aesthetic anyway? He just studied with the great Enescu and lived & breathed that music/culture for years....
Sorry but it doesn't matter what he studied. What matters is the recording. And that's terrible. It's a surfacial steven spielberg / walt disney kind of sentimentalism which it was never supposed to be. Bartok's music has always been radical. Listen to Bartok's own interpretation, or Kocsis's. It's powerful and decadent - the exact opposite of what Menuhin does here.
MetalMinded2011 yah if only he had your advice...funny. the tempo works wonderfully. extra pesante. The thing about music is that there are many ways to interpret the same piece, the same phrase.
In this tempo there is a completely different energy, so much heavier. Truly a great recording, one that ought to be used more as an example.
i like it slower so you hear all the nuances. if you want virtuosic Bartok listen to the Violin Concerto. Menhuin made an excellent recording if it.
I think its lovely too. But. Bartok intended the piece to take 4 minutes played piano solo. I love this piece partly because of its roots in folk music. I think played this slow it only distances the music from its roots.
As a violinist and also a foreigner who lives in Romania I have to say this is simply breathtaking
Pretty heavy Jewish playing
well if u live here and passed through one of the time locked vilages u can better understand how this music hits :).
i dont know whom, but i want to thank..... thank god , thank bartok, thank those who played this version, thank the one who uploaded this for us to access it, thank the ones who made recording technology and internet, thank the romanian people and all people on earth from whos mind came all this beautiful melodies.... THANK U FOR THIS MUSIC AND THAT I CAN LISTEN TO IT
And thank you, Kitty! One can't say better.
Kitty Scherbatskaya The most important greeting should also be paid to the Menuhin's valuable tutor, the notable Romanian composer Georghe Enescu (both of them can be seen together in a picture on 4:11 in the video). In my opinion, being taught by such a great composer led Menuhin not only perform (such a composition which is culturally related to his tutor) technically perfect but also empathatetical as well.
It is also worth mentioning that both Béla Bartok and Georghe Enescu are contemporaries and their immortal compositions of "Romanian Folk Dances" and "Romanian Rhapsodies No.1&2" had been composed and met with the audiences approximately in the same years of the early 20th century. When listened together, all these immortal works enable listeners to get a "Big picture" as all of them had been inspired from the melodies of the different regions that make up the current Romania.
So, thanks for Béla Bartok for the composition; thanks for Georghe Enescu for presenting us a notable virtuoso and thanks to Yehudi Menuhin for his unique, emphatic and soul-catching performance.
I am sure that both Bartok and Enescu would applause Menuhin after listened to this recording.
Deep respects to all of them...
navigator0634 'l
@@navigator0634 beautiful!thanck you for your words.it brought me tears in my eyes.laura,romania
@@onix6394 "Va mulțumesc" to your kindest comments😊👍Having visited Romania in April 2016, I can easily say that your country and your culture is really very inspiring, very rich and very impressing🇷🇴👍
"Salutarii din Istanbul, Turchia😊🇹🇷"
This music is from 1944, from a complete master of the violin, and in the old Romanian style -- worth our attention!
To what would you attribute "the old Roumanian style", Menuhin's time with Enescu?
Menuhin was an incredible human being in addition to artist. Collaborations with Wilhelm Furtwangler and with Glenn Gould were not for the faint of heart.
Thank you - my favourite version , had this in a record, but unfortunately broke and was looking for this - 🙏🏻
There´s that voice again, so beautiful. And also that delicate and subtle phrasing... What a treasure these recordings~
Вэтом человеке все прекрасно:и талант,и душа,и его тонкое благородное лицо,даже в старости он прекрасен!
It is not at all , too slow... It is just much more expressive than what we ear today. Menuhin sings on the violin and is very passionate.
Splendid performance!
Timeless, spectacular.
Beautiful, I love it
exquistite, thank you for uploading
i like how these are slow but still energetic :3 nice version thank u for uploading
There is a lot to say about how we perceive the tempo. Are we influenced by contemporary interpretations, or looking for speed as a show of virtuosity? Personally, a surprising, unconventional, new tempo makes me rethink the work, projects a new light on it, even if I prefer a different tempo. It is your favorite dish prepared by different very skilled chefs. We should compare, evaluate, understand, rather than apply labels. Now, that was 1944 and it’s about Romania....
Wow, you said it. That's great! Music is vast, our minds are tiny. Open up, if you can. This is not how I would play it -- but I'm not Yehudi Menuhin!
The true big brain
Sr Menuhin forever Great Violinist !
THANK YOU MR MENUHİN
Julia, estoy feliz de haberte escuchado con los temas de tu graduación. Estoy absolutamente orgullosa por el simple hecho de haberte conocido antes de todo este perfeccionamiento. Estás tocando maravillosamente, estoy emocionada. Felicitaciones y éxitos, que los mereces. Muchísimos besos tesoro.
creo que te has equivocado de vídeo
Прекрасно!!!!
Phenomenal 😊
Heavenly.....
For those interested, here are the field recordings of Bartok Himself: th-cam.com/video/MhCoDIiWtzw/w-d-xo.html
Does anybody know in which album we can find these tracks ? Menhuin has recorded different versions for these dances, but I would like to find this one in the original album
thank you for your helpful post :) i"m done now with our project in P>E DANCE
love it!!
👌 👌 👌
Fantastic. Is that Gould in the second picture?
Yes.
Yes It is Gould! I wonder which Schoenbergs piece it is?
@@sysRq76 it's the Phantasy Op.47 for violin and piano
Kao Feniks... iz apsolutnog bola u radost...
It would be nice to play, but these are dance tunes, you should play the first two tunes much faster. Bartók and Szigeti played it much faster.
th-cam.com/video/XX-XJdnu1I4/w-d-xo.html I recommend watching this video, presented by Zoltán Kocsis and Kelemn Baranbás.
th-cam.com/video/6ydYQhM7kho/w-d-xo.html This is an authentic performance by Bartók and József Szigeti
Menuhin is the only violinist who has a heart of a woman and a mind of a man he is my Idol.
I just want to speed up the track. fantastic violin playing just too slow don't ya think?
If you do, you will kill the spirit of Menuhin so please don't
What is lost in this more moderate tempo compared to a faster one? I think nothing.
He gives you nuances in this tempo to make it worthwhile
I really wish this first dance had a little more pep to it.... maybe the piano is dragging it down? I'm just not able to imagine dancing to this, and I like slow dancing.... something else is wrong... it's like plodding through gray mud
IDK, I find his tempo refreshing (kind of). But I guess this is more in line with what you have in mind: th-cam.com/video/QmHRaBrE6KQ/w-d-xo.html
Maybe you need to work on your dancing.
@kinor Spielman I don't know what you're agreeing with. I really don't care about 'most modern performances', what I care about is artistry. I've heard excellent performances of the Roumanian Dances that vary in tempo considerably one from another. I hear Yehudi Menuhin's heart and soul in this performance, and that's worth a lot, don't you think?
@@commontater8630 holyshit !!! Iknowwwww!!!
too slow glorious vibrato
Tempo too slow.
lisag6 why its good
OK. I will re-think this...
Way too slow. Here is one of the best examples th-cam.com/video/a9aZU35so9A/w-d-xo.html
There you go, thanks! It's dances (not a dirge)
@@lisag6 I don't think it suffers at at a slower tempo
Complete misunderstanding.
Way too slow and cheesy sentimentalism in there.
There is a reason it's called Romanian Folk DANCES
Yeah, right -- what did Menuhin know about the Romanian aesthetic anyway? He just studied with the great Enescu and lived & breathed that music/culture for years....
Sorry but it doesn't matter what he studied. What matters is the recording. And that's terrible.
It's a surfacial steven spielberg / walt disney kind of sentimentalism which it was never supposed to be.
Bartok's music has always been radical.
Listen to Bartok's own interpretation, or Kocsis's.
It's powerful and decadent - the exact opposite of what Menuhin does here.
MetalMinded2011 yah if only he had your advice...funny. the tempo works wonderfully. extra pesante. The thing about music is that there are many ways to interpret the same piece, the same phrase.
MetalMinded2011 this style of playing is now considered tasteless by some,,, but who am i to say? i mean what do i know?
The price sounds good at a variety of speeds.