You are absolutely right. I just bought 2nd hand shaft and it's bent, I straight the shaft and still have some curve in my cue. I thought that my butt have some problem then I I put it in other butt it was worst. Then I saw the gap between the shaft and butt, Now I am trying your method hope it fix the problem and see how. ( the ring where the joint is have some deep marks that's mean he lock very strong)
@@mansoorahmed3634 glad you find it helpful. If it’s that bad that you can see a gap visually, true it up with a lathe first. I can do this for you if you are interested
I need this done. I have a cue with 2 shafts. The man who made it im pretty sure is dead. I also have a cheap mass produced cue that i believe has potential. It needs a tip and the shaft turned down a little i find it too fat. Talk at me about how much this would cost if i mailed you the cues
@@levigarrett5614 first thing you want to check is if the shafts and butts are straight by themselves like I did in the beginning of the video. If they are not, this technique doesn’t apply. Check that first, you can find me on Facebook “goldenbreakbilliards” and we can chat more there. Thanks!
That’s what I meant in the end when I said “the faces are relative.” They are CNCed out of factory yet this happens. The face on the butt is not perfect. The pin is also not striaght. What we are doing here is crooking the shaft surface in the right direction at the right amount, to offset the crookedness in the butt. Facing it square would be not different than factory setting.
@@noelnameytoyo7323 the thickness of tape is 10 times of the adjustment you need. Also I thinkit will wear away within a few times of tightening and loosening. Have you actually done this before? And what’s wrong with shaving? Thanks.
Thank you for your comment! I’m not a trained machinist so I apologize if I’m using the term too loosely here. It’s definitely an issue with facing and perhaps run out on the join pin and holes, but the end result is that the all circular cross sections on the cue don’t have their centers on a straight line. Isn’t that what concentricity means?
@@suryantofan7877 I’ll say this, all my carbon shafts ($400+) and all my butt pieces ($1000+) have never matched up perfectly. But like I said it doesn’t matter much. If it’s too bad, or it just bothers you, then take care of it. It doesn’t matter for accuracy much… Stephen Hendry won 7 world championships with a crooked cue.
@@suryantofan7877after “calibrating”, that shaft is only “calibrated” for that butt. You are inducing a controlled slanted surface on the shaft to offset the slanted surface on the butt. So if you have multiple shafts calibrated to one butt, and they are all nice and straight, those shafts aren’t necessarily straight on a different butt piece. Brand doesn’t matter. I’ve never seen a brand that’s able to get to the level of alignment shown at the end of the video, even carbon shafts that are pressure molded.
this guy is so respectful at replying to comments
@@ongopom trying my best to check my impulses
You are absolutely right. I just bought 2nd hand shaft and it's bent, I straight the shaft and still have some curve in my cue. I thought that my butt have some problem then I I put it in other butt it was worst. Then I saw the gap between the shaft and butt, Now I am trying your method hope it fix the problem and see how. ( the ring where the joint is have some deep marks that's mean he lock very strong)
@@mansoorahmed3634 glad you find it helpful. If it’s that bad that you can see a gap visually, true it up with a lathe first. I can do this for you if you are interested
Check the face of your tip after you finish with the joint face(s).
Nice work, thanks. Subbed.
Thanks! So do you mean looking at the ring on the tip to see if they jitter? I didn’t think of that, very smart
It's hard to tell if the face of the tip it dented a bit or if it's discolored from dressing up the side of the tip.
great video, do you have a link to the rollers?
Thanks. I think they are just called billiards cue rollers, you can find them on Amazon
What is you use a soft rubber seal between
@@coreydavidson24 won’t be a solid connection
You'd think the extra super thick coating the shafts come with would protect it from warping. Jeez! 😬
The shaft didn’t warp at all in this example.
But yea they do warp😂
I need this done. I have a cue with 2 shafts. The man who made it im pretty sure is dead. I also have a cheap mass produced cue that i believe has potential. It needs a tip and the shaft turned down a little i find it too fat. Talk at me about how much this would cost if i mailed you the cues
@@levigarrett5614 first thing you want to check is if the shafts and butts are straight by themselves like I did in the beginning of the video. If they are not, this technique doesn’t apply. Check that first, you can find me on Facebook “goldenbreakbilliards” and we can chat more there. Thanks!
Thanx!
It would be easier to face off using a lathe.
That’s what I meant in the end when I said “the faces are relative.” They are CNCed out of factory yet this happens. The face on the butt is not perfect. The pin is also not striaght. What we are doing here is crooking the shaft surface in the right direction at the right amount, to offset the crookedness in the butt. Facing it square would be not different than factory setting.
Shaving is very very wrong. Just put some clear thin tape on the other side.
@@noelnameytoyo7323 the thickness of tape is 10 times of the adjustment you need. Also I thinkit will wear away within a few times of tightening and loosening. Have you actually done this before? And what’s wrong with shaving? Thanks.
You are definitely using the term concentricity incorrectly, the issue at hand is facing not concentricity
Thank you for your comment! I’m not a trained machinist so I apologize if I’m using the term too loosely here. It’s definitely an issue with facing and perhaps run out on the join pin and holes, but the end result is that the all circular cross sections on the cue don’t have their centers on a straight line. Isn’t that what concentricity means?
If New shaft and new butt is not from the same brand. Do we Always need to calibrate again on the surface of both side???
@@suryantofan7877 I’ll say this, all my carbon shafts ($400+) and all my butt pieces ($1000+) have never matched up perfectly. But like I said it doesn’t matter much. If it’s too bad, or it just bothers you, then take care of it. It doesn’t matter for accuracy much… Stephen Hendry won 7 world championships with a crooked cue.
@@suryantofan7877after “calibrating”, that shaft is only “calibrated” for that butt. You are inducing a controlled slanted surface on the shaft to offset the slanted surface on the butt. So if you have multiple shafts calibrated to one butt, and they are all nice and straight, those shafts aren’t necessarily straight on a different butt piece.
Brand doesn’t matter. I’ve never seen a brand that’s able to get to the level of alignment shown at the end of the video, even carbon shafts that are pressure molded.
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