How to stroke straight/watch till the end
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video, I demonstrate a great training method for delivering the cue straight down the shot line.
This method is a must, for those struggling with shot making consistency.
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Have always been a so-so pool player, meaning not great. Mostly missing shots. This has helped immensely, thank you.
Awesome Jud, glad to hear this tutorial helped.
Let me know if you have any other issues, I have several videos so I’m sure I can provide a link or I can give you advice.
Thanks again 👍🏻😊
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Thanks Ron I really appreciate the instructional videos where you hone in on one specific component of the game.
Thanks Dinorojo, glad my content is helping. It’s the small details that add to our shot making consistency 👍🏻
I'm so glad you chose to focus on this most critical aspect of the stroke and not just what the elbow does.
I’ve always tried to hinge at the elbow and make a straight/smooth stroke Jeff. That works for me and today, I don’t even have to think about it.
Since this has now become ingrained, I’m now in stroke on a daily basis.
It’s all about shooting without thought 👍🏻
Thank you!
@@ronthepoolstudent It's taken me about 5 years, of playing almost every day, to get what I call a bullet-proof stroke. 95% of that time, was finding a grip that doesn't mess up my shot and is ultimately repeatable. I could never count on my stroke, because of the grip, and lost all confidence in tournaments. I've only figured out how to hold the cue properly (what works for me) in the past month, but I've started breaking even with some of the best players at my local pool hall. It's an amazing feeling.
@@jeffwilliams1356 having a grip that works for us has a huge part of our repeatability imo 👍🏻
We all must find what works for us but sound fundamentals is key.
Thanks Jeff!
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Great idea/tool for radial stroke verification. I use a line on some tape to verify axial stroke straightness and I think the combination would a practice winner. Thanks Ron. 😊
Thanks Jerry, it’s an issue that many Pool Player’s are unaware of I’m thinking.
WOW, that's genius Ron. I am going to try this . Thanks once again!!!
Thank you Greg, it’s all in the grip hand once again.
I’ve come to realize, the grip is such an integral part of our Pool stroke.
We MUST develop a gentle/controlled hold on the cue in order to achieve real consistency.
I’m convinced, many players struggle because of their tight grip.
This is the exact problem I have developed. Can’t wait to get this under control.
Light grip did if for me Jack 👍🏻
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I always appreciate the content.
Thanks man, great to hear 👍🏻😊
Thank you. I missed a few easy shots that cost me a game or two this pass week due to twisting the cue. Another much needed video.
It can make a difference for sure Carl. 👍🏻 Glad this video was of help.
hey Ron im jamai Garcia from bay city I’ve just got into pool and have been shooting with jimmy often and he showed me your channel to help me fix my shot and I think I found just what I need to help me
Hi Jamai, thanks for reaching out. I’m happy to help so please reach out with any questions you may have.
I can more quickly pull up one of my tutorials to help.
Thanks again 👍🏻
I don’t think I KNOW you’ve found the right info to help you. Just don’t ever forget that. You can watch and learn so many things but until you practice and hone your skills, your new knowledge will just be in your head. Think of it this way, anyone can read a book on how to drive a stick shift, but until you feel out the car your drivings clutch you’ll never actually be able to drive stick
@@CussCaves the reason so many never actually reach a high level, they do not put in the time needed to discover what I call those eureka moments.
These come when you feel the sensation of the stroke required, on a particular shot that gives you difficulty.
I can attest to this as I’ve experienced several of these moments and each time, my game became that much stronger.
It’s all about practice practice practice and and the process that gives us valuable feedback so we can adjust to improve.
Thank you Tyson 👍🏻
Nice explanation Ron! I can almost guarantee that I’m guilty of this.. I’ll be marking up a spare cue today and trying this out.
Thank you Nick and good luck. Please let me know how it goes 👍🏻
Surprisingly I’m stroking straight since I’ve focused on a loose grip.. the only time I had a problem was when I was drawing the cue ball. About an eighth of a turn as I unconsciously squeezed the cue. And of course when I corrected my mistake I got more action on the cue ball. That’s a great training tool. Thanks again Ron!
@@nickbonvino that’s great news Nick. It’s awesome you were able to figure out your issue thus straighten your stroke.
Squeezing our cue during a draw stroke is so bad. It not only takes away the draw action, it will also veer our tip away from true low center at contact which can lead to a miscue.
Thanks again for sharing 👍🏻💪🏻👍🏻
I had this very problem at one time and it will throw your shot off . If you are jarring the object ball this could be the reason. As usual Ron puts out a video that can help with a simple problem.
Thank you for sharing Chuck.
It’s sometimes the smallest things that make the biggest difference 👍🏻
Outstanding, the feedback is amazing. I used pin striping with the shooters I'm coaching, now they can see when they make the error
Thank you Vebnew, glad my content was able to help with your students 😊
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Two things. One, now I finally know what the hell is going on with Tor Lowry's cue, so thanks for that. Two, for those of us with an affinity for sneaky Pete cues, you can quickly check to see if you're rotating the cue by looking at the spikes during some practise strokes. But it's not as good as the line, so if you see any rotation at all, you'll need to draw the line in order to fix it. I didn't see any when I just checked, which is good because all of my shafts are CF so the line isn't as much of an option for me unless I went out and got a white out pen or something.
Thanks Martin, just being aware that rotating our cue during the forward stroke is good info for any player that is struggling. From there, they now know how to test this…thus work to control it.
Love this game!!!
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This is very helpful Ron. I'm gonna use an old shaft of mine and practice this.
Cool TJ, please let me know how it works for you 👍🏻
Great tip. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Jim and thank you for checking it out 😊👍🏻
this will help my stroke, I use a cue with lines installed.Now I know how to use them-thanks
Awesome Lee, it is important to not roll the cue and a loose grip stops that from happening 👍🏻
Good luck and please let me know how it works for you.
Thanks again 👍🏻
Best tip. Thanks can't wait to try it tomorrow. Well done
Thanks Brian, it has been a game changer for me. In daily dead stroke since finding this grip.
Please let me know how it works for you and thanks again 👍🏻
@@ronthepoolstudent Eye will let U know.
@@Brian-pu8we thanks 👍🏻
Very helpful instruction. Thank you! Will do as you have suggested.
Thank you D.
Please let me know if this helps. Also, don’t forget to have a smooth stroke transition from back to forward 👍🏻
Ron, videos are always helpful.
Thank you EDR, I’m very happy to hear feedback like this.
I invest lots of time creating my content to share with other Players. It’s my hope to teach the things that have helped me in my game and it’s great to know others are truly benefiting.
Thanks again 👍🏻
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Guilty as charged!!Great video
Thank you Henry, glad this tutorial was helpful. Please let me know if you were able to make the correction and if it helped with your shot making.
Good luck 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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Ron once again you showed me something i needed to look at.... Using scotch tape on the ferrule... with four lines on the quadrants.... and sighting like a gun... making sure i stayed straight.... Big improvement ! PLaying much more consistantly.... uhhh and winning more matches....lol.... Thanks again, Vince
That’s awesome Vince and great to hear your feedback.
This is an overlooked subject so I’m happy to demonstrate it in such a way that it helps you and so many others.
Thanks for your feedback 👍🏻
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Very interesting. Thank you I'll be working on this!
An improper grip can cause lots of issues…find the one that works well for you Nao Nao 👍🏻
Ron thanks for making this vid. I this is going to help me. I am currently having issues stroking striahgt. I will report back with how this worked for me. -Steve
Thank you Steve, I can’t wait to hear back. Ask if you have any question too bud 👍🏻
Thanks, I understand what I need to correct.
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Thank you Mark and glad my tutorial was of help 😊👍🏻
Great advice and thanks for the video!!!
Thank you John, glad this helped 👍🏻
Thanks Ron this is so informative
Glad this was of help MB 👍🏻😊
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Thanks Ron, I'll check it out!
Cool, keep me posted Mike 👍🏻
Very helpful doing know i was doing this
Thanks K, glad you found this helpful 👍🏻
Thanks Ron great drill!
Glad you like this one Ron, it’s very helpful 👍🏻
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That’s a pretty good tip.
Thanks and I’m sure I’m guilty like the rest. But not for long.
Ciao
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Thank you Scott, glad to have helped. Please let me know how it worked out 👍🏻
Thank you for that.
Glad this was of help Alfons 👍🏻
This is a good tip
Thanks again, more content based on the loose grip 👍🏻
That's a great MotorCycle Grip... that oughta make it go forward...
Lol MPP 👍🏻
Ron, thank you so much for this video. I had an idea how to approach and drawing a line on the cue. But your video made it very clear. Thank you for nice explanation and your hard work. Appreciate it. I will definitely try it this weekend. By the way I also noticed Tor’s cue stick. 😊
Thank you Onsam, super happy this helped.
Btw, I’m unaware of Tor’s cue. Your comment is the second reference to it. I’ll need to search his videos to see what it is you guys are talking about.
Thanks again 👍🏻
Thanks for sharing!!!
You’re welcome Darren and thanks for watching 👍🏻😊
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I've heard from other pros, keep the grip light but the bridge tight!
Great share Alan, thanks 👍🏻
Interesting. I've never thought of not letting the cue rotate. I've had very good success with pressing the cue shaft down onto my bridge hand during the warm up strokes and during the final stroke. And I also press my bridge hand down onto the table and I keep my bridge hand spread out and flexed so it doesn't move. I also often bring my left shoulder tucked into the left side of my neck and chin. I usually play 10 ball or 8 ball, but when I was shooting snooker I would often grip the cloth with my bridge hand and that helped me on that golf course table.
Thank you for sharing AW. If it works stick with it 👍🏻
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Great tip!!!!
Thank you J. A. M. 👍🏻
Thank you
You’re welcome Leon and thank you.
I took this idea and changed it slightly. I put 4 small lines on the ferrule of my playing cue and on my break cue. I use the lines to force my eyes to watch the cue ball until AFTER the tip strikes the cue ball. This makes sure that I don't look up during the shot and then the tip wouldn't hit with the desired English.
Good call Sterling, it’s what ever works so great thinking…I like it 👍🏻
One method I used was putting the cue ball on a paper reinforcement and watching where the cue landed as I stroked through it. A related issue is after aiming, stepping into the ball we have to remain on the shot line. Otherwise, everything may look lined up but it's not.
I realized this when I was hitting a center ball shot from my perspective, and someone standing on the shot line asked me why I put left spin on the cue ball from his perspective. That was a clue I was not lined up correctly and even a straight stoke misses the pocket...like I did on that shot.
We have to step straight into the shot line, then shoot straight. I found good balance really helps with all of this. When we lean forward over the stick, don't be afraid to allow some of your body weight to transfer to your forward foot which also helps to force your bridge arm onto the table, too.
Thank you Norman.
Here are a couple more things:
1, Place a second paper reinforcement about 5-6 inches out in front of the cue ball’s paper reinforcement.
When you hold your followthrough, make sure you finish over this paper reinforcements.
2, plant more weight to your bridge hand.
By doing this, you must shift body weight forward as you apply this bridge hand weight.
Thanks again for sharing and for your input 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@ronthepoolstudent Agreed. All good stuff, Ron. 👍
Thanks for your "student" lessons. I pop in once in a while, well, because we're all students of the game. I sometimes have to figure out why I'm missing and "find" my stroke. Sometimes I'll joke about dropping it on the floor and hope no one will step on it 😭
I was watching a match where even Efren Reyes would correct himself sometimes. Like having trouble with his draw shots He knew what he was doing wrong. Back to to fundamentals,
@@RoobieRhoo did you watch the recent interview with Efren Edward? I found it fascinating when he commented that his favorite position shot was follow. He also said draw is more difficult to obtain position from. He said he can more easily gain position anywhere on the table with follow.
Great interview.
Another great video, I have an old sneaky pete that I just put a line on.
Thanks Eric and nice 👍🏻
It gives us visual feedback for sure.
Nice job on the video Ron!
Thank you Jimmie, btw, I see all of the comments now.
This happens to be something ( actually...one of many somethings ) I'm working on. Always kinda felt I had a wondering tip, which is why i think i miss at times the ( what should be ) easy one. Yes, i get that no shot is automatic, but sure all know what i mean. The only thing that keeps me from breaking sticks is when you see the pros miss'm too. And when Efren misses...come on...really...you can't be mad at yourself for one.
Hope you don't mind me binging your channel. Really enjoy.
Thank you Danny.
We all miss at times. For me, it happens when I shoot before I’m ready. When we settle our mind and clear out all of the clutter, we then have greater success. Settle in at the cue ball and focus, then make a smooth, straight stroke.
Thanks again 👍🏻
I noticed my stroke was off..Not hitting cue ball at same point my pre shot strokes lined me up with..Started to hold cue very gently..seem to help..Now after watching this video I know I twist on final stroke for shot..That's my problem..Going to draw lines on my shafts and grip like a baby...I'm sure this will work for me...Thanks for the tips.
Thank you for sharing Harley. Please follow up to let me know how it goes. It has transformed my stroke so if you still struggle, I’m sure I can help.
Thanks again.
Interesting approach. Typically in my personal training, I will draw an imaginary line in my head and try to stroke along that line to keep my cueing straight. But this is a good idea too!! Especially for practice. It might be a good idea to combine the line on the cue, with actually drawing a line on the cloth and keep the line on the cue aligned with the line on the table.
Thanks DH. I actually use paper reinforcements as a guide to finish the cue over. Narrow tape on the cloth would work too 👍🏻
Great video!
Thank you Ben, glad you liked it and hope it helped 👍🏻
Do you have an LED light underneath the pool table? if so what kind. Looks great!
@@JB-pw9sp thanks and yes Ben, LED light strips. I use two, 10’ rolls.
See link below:
Note, this one is a 16’ roll but Amazon sells varying lengths.
www.amazon.com/iNextStation-SMD5050-Flexible-Non-Waterproof-Ribbon/dp/B07RQTGRC1/ref=mp_s_a_1_15?crid=2FO84XJNCYYSN&keywords=blue+led+light+strip&qid=1703568834&sprefix=blue+led+light%2Caps%2C112&sr=8-15
I often wondered why the object ball skipped or jumped some times on a shot. No one could answer why this happened. I was actually shooting a screw shot. Makes alot of sense.
Thanks James.
I find that not slicing across the cue ball (at contact) is essential to shot making consistency.
As I’ve watched the pros shoot at tournaments, I’ve noticed they never roll their cue during their stroke. As a result, their cue remains very straight down the shot line.
It’s the smallest things that can make the biggest difference 👍🏻
Ron, probably not as accurate as the line, but , I have been trying to see the shaft move towards the cue ball in the practice stroke phase of my stroke. It has been suggested by others that the practice stroke is not to be used as aiming, which is done while standing, but rather as a confirmation of the straight channel the shaft is meant to travel as it moves toward the cue ball. It is very revealing to me how much deviation from that straight channel there is in my practice stroke and subsequently in the final phase of the stroke which makes contact with the cue ball. Can’t think of any down side to drawing the line, using a thin point pen.
Also Mark, you can test things out by placing a paper reinforcements out in front of your cue ball at the length of your followthrough. If your cue finishes over the reinforcement, you’ve stroked straight.
Thanks and hope that also helps 👍🏻
I tend to rotate when my grip is looser. I think the goal is limiting the rotation and the swing of your elbow but firm grips can work for some players too. I love long shots because if your stroke is straight you can basically throw the cue without having to grip
Thank you for your input TAL. You’re correct, every player must find what works best for them 👍🏻
Hi Ron, another great and informative video, Thanks! Can you please help tell me how you use and focus your eyes when shooting? Do you go back and forth from the cue ball to the object or do you mostly just focus on your spot on the object ball? Thanks for any advice that you can provide! Mike
Thank you very much Mike and thank you for your question.
I’ve had several others ask this very same question as of late.
I do have an older video covering this but think I will put together a new one and dedicate it to you and the others so stay tuned.
To answer your question though, I will first visualize the shot going into the pocket while standing behind/over it. From there, I step into the shot. Once down, I then visualize my cue’s alignment to that of the intended ghost ball position. I then look back and forth from object ball to cue ball to confirm tip positioning and the precise ghost ball aim point.
I will then feather my practice strokes a few times then stop at the back of the cue ball. At this point, all I’m doing is reducing clutter in my head. Once all thoughts are gone, I let “feel” take over and look at the shot as a whole. Once I’m confident the shot will be successful, I then focus on the object ball and make a smooth/deliberate stroke, with a smooth transition.
I hope that helps as that’s the best way I can describe how I shoot.
Thanks again 👍🏻❤️🎱
Hi Ron. I ordered the back cleaner that you use. They recommend using a spray cleaner, but I noticed in your video that you use the Arimith ball cleaner. It sounds like that works good for you. Do you just put one drop on each ball or do you do something different? Thanks for any advise that you can offer. Mike
Thanks Mike and yes, only a drop is needed 👍🏻
Shooting pool last night I missed a couple of shots. After watching this video I realized that I had applied a death grip at the end of the stroke. Got to keep it loose!
Amen John!!! 💪🏻👍🏻❤️🎱
Hi Ron, quick question. I noticed that you have a pool ball cleaner in your pool room. I'm just curious, what kind it is and do you find that it works well? I'm thinking about getting one in the future and I'm interested in your experience and opinion with the one that you have. Thanks, Mike
Thank you for your question Mike.
Here is a video of my cleaner, running its full uninterrupted cycle.
Btw, I love this unit and I’ve discovered this unit is sold with different names on it but it is my belief, these are the same machine.
See link below:
th-cam.com/video/A08AI-_Vqjk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=VZTX7Jud5S2XWNsv
I have noticed that johnny archer and earl often twist the cue clockwise as they stroke. And rafael martinez likes to spin the cue stick in his hand while he's doing the warm up strokes. odd, but he's great to watch.
Nothing is set in stone AW. Each player, finds what works best for them.
For me, maintaining a very loose grip hand, has transformed me as a player. I now stroke straight through my shots with consistency.
Here’s a real test to tell you if your stroke is super straight.
See link below:
Precision Billiard Stroke Drill
th-cam.com/users/shortsam5yf_jMePE?feature=share
@@ronthepoolstudent Yes I have tried so many different techniques to try to improve my game it's not even funny. Right now I'm watching landon shuffet vs earl strickland. I'm going to see if landon doesn't rotate the cue stick. It's interesting to see how they do everything.
@@AnonymousWon-uu5yn cool, btw, are you new to my channel?
@@ronthepoolstudent Yes, I've never seen your videos before. But hopefully I'll find more new things to learn from you.
@@AnonymousWon-uu5yn feel free to ask questions at any time. I will most likely have a video I can share or I’ll be able to answer your question directly.
Btw, the video linked below is when I first converted my grip hand. This really helped my shot making.
New grip equates to nine ball 3 pack
th-cam.com/video/n5LN0enP_d8/w-d-xo.html
By the way, we do not see many videos about twisting our stick during the stroke. I have noticed, sometimes, my hand will be twisted after the follow through. So, do you think our minds try to compensate for any misalignment causing us to unconsciously twist the stick or stroke off line? I guess that was what I was getting at talking about alignment on the shot line, to minimize any tendency for our mind to unconsciously try to bring the stick on line.
I think it’s more about trusting the stroke. I believe that we steer the cue when in doubt. We must always trust and stroke smoothly Norman. If we miss, we can then recognize why and adjust.
@@ronthepoolstudent Good point
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Nice video Ron . I have a favor to ask. I know your using a GoPro for some shots . How do "you" use your phone to video your stroke ??? Whats your video source or Phone stand ? I'd like to see my stroke flaws . Thanks much...
Thanks Ral!
Here’s an inexpensive tripod. I use one of these when I travel.
www.amazon.com/Aureday-Flexible-Portable-Wireless-Recording/dp/B09V4XYHR5/ref=mp_s_a_1_8_maf_1?crid=3D0Q5OB86TH9&keywords=iphone+tripod+stand&qid=1697922909&sprefix=iphone+tri%2Caps%2C136&sr=8-8
Ron, I have 2 questions for you…
1: how long after beginning to work on your stroke issues did it take before you started seeing it look the way it should?
2. Is there a way I can email you to have more in depth conversations about this?
I’m pretty much where you were and in the same situation as when you started.
I’m looking to do the same things you’ve already done, but I don’t have the people around me that you do, so I’d love to bounce around d what I’m doing and get more feedback from you on this whole stroke topic
I appreciate your time
It took ma a solid year to stop jabbing/poke stroking shots Mike.
I was told 99.9% of players with this issue can’t change their ways. After going through it, I can see why. It takes countless hours of dedication to ingrain a new good habit while at the same time, abandoning the old.
It was not easy for me…but it was worth it.
As for reaching out, I’m a moderator on:
“Lil’ Chris Pool Coaching Den”.
This is a private Facebook Pool group. You can reach out to me through that forum.
PS, make sure you answer all of the up front questions to join, or your request will be denied as I’m not the only moderator.
These questions are meant to weed out spammers and bots.
Just joined and waiting… Funnybone Art is me! Thank you
@@vandecarr1 I just accepted your request 👍🏻
@@vandecarr1 I think I see an issue Mike. Send me a side shot video so I can see your full grip hand/arm movement.
@@vandecarr1 send that side shot video to my FB messenger Mike.
Very overlooked issue for most of us weekend warriors!! A simple line to help straighten things out. Is this why i see some pro players roll their cue to a certain position? Are they putting some sort of light marks on the shaft that they're looking for? I've always been curious about that.
Hum, not sure about that T Russ.
That’s a great question. Maybe someone reading this will know 🤔
Old Viking exact shot shaft, that why they stop making it with the black carbon fiber insert.
Thanks for the info 👍🏻
will it matter. I struggle to keep my left hand straight. But I can shoot decent enough to keep in apa league
@@nsme6942 if what you are doing works to your satisfaction nsme, keep doing it 👍🏻
Did you put that line on your main playing shaft or a backup? Not real sure I want to sharpie up my main playing shaft, a predator 314. I do have a couple back up meuccis cues, maybe use those for drill purposes, thx Ron
I have a very nice 11.75 Champion cue that I marked for this video Mike. That being said, I shot with a sharpie line on my main Predator cue (for six months) a year ago. The line was easily removed by using my standard cleaning method, 400 grit with a light misting of Windex on the sandpaper.
I like using 3m 1/16inch black pinstripe tape or in case of carbon fiber shafts silver or white 1/16 inch pinstripe.
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Great idea 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Nice ideal !👍
Have you seen players put there thumb on the top of the cue instead of around the cue?
I have not Edward. I have head of this but my logic tells me it would hinder the pivot action in ones fingers.
@@ronthepoolstudent Thank you
I’m new to playing league
I grew up with a pool table but we didn’t know the rules
My dad just said call your pocket
I just purchased a pool table and have a goal to get good enough to enter a tournament
@@edwardwallace1633 awesome Edward, I wish you great success.
Make sure you work on solid fundamentals. By having great fundamentals, you’ll play with more consistency.
As you watch others, take note of their fundamentals as well. You’ll quickly notice the better players vs those that struggle.
In order to get good at this game, we must have great fundamentals.
Good luck and feel free to reach out with any questions you may have 👍🏻
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im going pro now
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Is this illegal, in leagues, tourneys, or elsewhere ?
Not illegal Kenny.
@@ronthepoolstudent thx Ron
@@kennyhedrick4764 you’re welcome 👍🏻
Ron, I would like to ask you a pool related training question based on one of your videos. ... but I don't want to make my question public as I believe your answer might be compromised. I found your Facebook page, but can't find a way to message you on Facebook. Help?
FB Messenger Phil.
Would having the line on the cue be legal in a match?
Don’t know that answer Buster. I would think there’d be no problem. Check with your league of tournament director first however.
I have played with cues like this for many years in states and any other amateur tournaments like internationals in Vegas there is no problem with the lines on a cue .
@@jimlinton3679 thanks for that input in answering Buster’s question Jimmie 👍🏻
babe bird
Holding a baby bird = delicately 👍🏻😊
Thank you Abdulrahman.
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Baby bird is the key word
Your welcome Ron
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LOOL bro made a video cause of that one guys comment I rate the dedication teach me some sht G
Not totally following what you’ve said here so please rephrase if you would Jj. 😊