I think that’s to put somewhat a fear of missing out. It makes players consume the content when there it is still hype. Otherwise, players would just not mind it knowing they can play it later til they would only play it for the rewards since there’s not that much excitement anymore.
They probably will at some point. In Honkai Impact, we went for 3 and a half years without any event rerun, then after the 4th aniversary, they started to rerun some of the most popular events
Just go to youtube.. Also if you want them to keep those event stories then they have to drop mobile players because their phones would explode with that much content
Most of the events are like filler in anime. It's not integral to the MSQ. Mihoyo has included some exciting events, but I would mostly tell players to do the events for the weapons, gems, and crowns. I often just blast through the dialogue on the last day because there is a lot, and I don't have the time to sit through it (the MSQ takes enough time as is). Early complaints were that the game didn't have enough content. Now there is so much that it's hard to stay caught up if you even remotely have a life.
Oh man, I can stress this enough. I love the new format of Necrit's videos. Good balance in jokes, content, actually useful and interesting info, and memes.
@@RaE7Vx hes a lore enjoyer and as an lore enjoyer myself id say he got hooked to genshin, he got hooked to star rail and in prety sure he will get hooked to honkai impact simply becouse that game has the lore that conects it all
I dont know, i dont think the gameplay is interresting enought for him. As he said. it doesnt matter if you have the best story, if the gameplay dont follow, he s not going to stick with it
That Fungus event was an RTS, not an auto battle. Since you can command each of them to move to where you want, attack the target you want and use abilities.
Necrit, I'm sorry that you have missed out the best story from Albedo's limited events that happened in 2020 (The Chalk Prince and the Dragon) and 2021 (Shadows Amidst Snowstorms).
These events manifested Albedo in my Top5 characters of the entire game even tho I haven't been interested in him at all before. They should have made these events into one of Albedos' key story quests, but I assume they didn't because they had actual important plot progression for the overarching lore that shall not be overlooked as a characters side story. (So instead it's overlooked cause its not playable at all lol). They rly need to bring some of these events back as an optional replay.
@@ymi8238 they didn't give us lore about albedo in he's story quest only important thing he said was "if I lose control destroy monstad would you be here to stop me" but those limited events OMFG they're the reason I get albedo his va is so good his personality is kinda nice and he has probably biggest lore in monstad
But albedo quest reruns is from the start we go to met albedo in dragonspine, just wait for the third reruns im sure necrit will enjoy albedo strory quest from the first version
I love Genshin's event structure with 1 small caveat. Quite a few important story events were just temporary 2-week events that no longer exist. Anyone who hasn't played Genshin since release will be confused when you meet a new character and Paimon just goes "Oh it's this guy again" while you have no clue who it is because you only met them in an event.
I'd say that's my biggest complaint with Genshin in general. Artifact farming can be incredibly painful, grinding materials can eat up days worth of time if you let it, and the gacha system will sometimes make you question all your life choices, but what's definitely the most disappointing is when they release a story fit for a short novel and then it's gone forever after 2 weeks.
Yep, by far the best example is, meeting Scaramouche in 1.1 and then he dips for over a year, until ppl actually meet him in Inazuma and Sumeru properly lol.
well, thing is they DO have special dialogue for people who have and haven't seen those. Scaramouche has two different introductions based on if you did the 1.1 event or not.
THIS. A good chunk of Eula's character growth WERE in events(one that comes to mind was the Fakebedo one). I would still dislike her if I had to have only her character story as a basis, and not played the events(nowadays I quite like her). Not to mention Albedo himself, having quite a chunk of his origins hidden behind events. Hell, I'm pissed that we can't have the Kaeya letter that revealed that he is from a regent family from Khaenriah.
I've heard the developers do consider this an issue, and there's reason to think they've been careful enough with their codebase that at least on their side the events aren't lost forever or incompatible with the current version of the game. That said, I expect working out a way to replay events is near the bottom of their very long to-do list. It is, however, probably on the list - which is rare for a gacha game.
this game have always had multiple genshin lore youtubers, you don't necessarily have to limit your options to just necrit's, if that's what you meant by this comment, lmao
I know Mihoyo isnt a perfect company and they have flaws, but I feel like the community doesn't give them enough credit. I love Genshin Impact, its nice and relaxing to play, and can be engaging when you want it to be. They listen to players feedback and always try to make the game fun and interactive. When we complained about how annoying Crystalflies were, they added and even gave a free 4 star character with the ability to help us farm them. They added Hangout events to get to know more about certain characters (Still waiting on a Kujou Sara and Xinyan Hangout event). They made artifact farming a bit less painful (And I mean a little bit) by allowing us to swap out five star artifacts with the ones we want and doing the same for weekly bosses and regular bosses material. Again, the game has flaws (Still hoping for the Dehya buffs), but I will definitely keep playing the game with how things are going. Can't wait for ZZZ (Zenless Zone Zero) to come out and I will probably no life Honkai star rail as well. Also, I'm happy that I'm not the only one who disliked Inazuma's story lol
Yeah people take for granted how much hoyoverse changed the mobile gaming/gacha landscape to make the experiences more immersive and more video game less just gambling. Also I always see forgetting how when a repeat game mode comes back it comes back with changes suggest from the last round of it. It's neat that they try to improve their little mini games as well
@@exo_eve7575 why wouldnt you take it for granted? the shit they do for money i still very corporate-esque. yes the thing underneath may be pretty sweet but anything else?
@@Exel3nce after playing through star rail, I have to say that the players give them far enough credit. If not too much credit. Literally, the majority of what players want in genshin is in star rail. It just proves that genshin is just simply a cash cow for Hoyoverse and not a passion project like star rail is. The story of star rail, the characters, the writing in general, is just far better than genshin's. Even the character's personalitys are better. And it feels nice to know that not everyone you meet is immediately your friend or won't ever be your friend. And it's nice that the story is far more adulterated than genshin's but still has far better comedy than genshin. Honkai star rail shows Hoyoverse's true passion. While genshin shows what they can do at a bare minimum. And yes saying bare minimum seems ve y outlandish considering the world and a lot of other aspects but I'm not basing it off that. I'm basing it off how well the story, characters, and systems are compared to genshin.
Since the topic is genshin updates, I believe the most underappreciated updates of genshin are not the mini events, new stories and regions or the spiral abyss. The most underappreciated updates are the updates to the Genious Invocation TCG. Yes genshin has it's own card game in the game, similar to how the Witcher had gwent in it. However while you might argue that every other update in the game is in some way connected to the main income of the game - pulling and building characters - be it because they're meta in combat, you like their gameplay or you like their design and personality in the story or simply because you spent all your free resources that you got trough the events and decide to put in some money. The card game is not only free like everything else in the game, it doesn't let you pay for it in any way. Even if you wanted to pay for it you can't. All cards are aquired by just playing the card game itself either earning them trough combat or buying them with card game currency that is gathered only by playing. And the most interesting part of this all is that genshin characters don't get balance updates. If a character is weak the only way that they can be buffed is if another character is introduced that has good synergy with them and so they become better. In the card game however there are actual balance patches to the cards. There are damage tweaks, cost changes etc. The card game isn't even that much of a popular game-mode in game. Don't get me wrong it's not bad, it's actually one of the most unique card-games i've played but setting aside the 4 weekly PvE battles, every other PvE battle only gives you rewards once and there's really no reason to replay them, other than to try and beat them with another deck. The PvP is very fun but as genshin is a casual game, it has no rank or rewards to playing PvP. It's just for fun. So most people play trough the PvE, play a few matches of PvP here and there when they feel like it but it's far from the most played game-mode. However hoyo not only constantly update it, with every monthly patch we get a few new cards and sometimes balance changes, they also reference it very often in the story quests and events. The existance of this card game, from which they actively refuse to charge any sort of money for, which they constantly update and reference just tells of how passionate the developers are about their game and how much they care about it. This is something I've genuinely not seen in a video game in a long time and never seen to this extent. Again hoyoverse has my full respect for their passion and love for their game.
1 year later..... Its crazy how they are still giving updates to TCG, There is a dedicated channel to GITCG because the core players of GI dont like that TCG exist in the game or any news related to it, so they release updates on a different channel but still they release updates for the few % players that play it.
Yet half their shit is 10x more expensive than league while having less worth for their price. Literally spending 100 dollars doesn’t even guarantee you the character you want…
@@rayinchrist1 genshin does not offer you the oppurtunity to have all the characters you love. You must love, have passion, admire, be patient, save and pray. Gacha does not work by saying "ohh, she is cool, i pull her". Getting a characters needs a long journey between you and that character, not just wanting.
That's not entirely true, during all updates there are a lot of times when nothing happens, and some moments when theoretically if something is happening, it's usually mediocre content like, take a picture of something, get double rewards of something you do every day, or simply give a flower or some nonsense to a random npc, a large part of the community constantly complains about the game situation, and many others, although they do not actively complain, do things only for rewards (they leave the game when they realize it doesn't make sense) what keeps the game alive is content that happens outside of it, like cosplays, animations and fanarts etc.
@@inarikitsune262 And then you have people like me. Being constantly entertained by the game like the original commenter mentioned and being frustrated with all the spoiled Genshin players complaining about the constant stream of content not being good enough.
Hoyoverse has always focused in creating stories through their games , they have done so since Houkai Gakuen 2, which is 9 years old and still gets story updates. They mentioned this in their recent documentary of Honkai Impact 3rd that the importance of story is the reason they've succeeded in the gaming market. At one point their game Honkai Impact 3rd had lost half the users and they decided to take a gamble and that's when "Will of the Herrscher" came out, a short animation with its own song depicting a major story shift in Honkai. A few months later they released "Final Lesson" which is one of the most emotionally packed story moment in mobile and gacha gaming, chapter 9 Final Lesson has sort of become a rite of passage in the community because of how impactful it is to the story and it encapsulates Hoyoverses story writing on how they do story.
The chapter 9 is also rite of passage because you are forced to play the worst and cluncliest character: Himeko, and only get to use her good suit before the and. There had been so many people whos interest in honkai had been killed because of himekos clunkiness.
I do think League could incorporate throw-away games modes (or recyclable ones); were still missing that 3v3v3v3. Personally, I wouldn't mind a team death match revolving around the Noxian Arenas (no items, only champions). Or perhaps a capture point game mode involving Ionia or The Freljord. So many potential options...
I've followed you since I was hooked on League Lore and your explanations were engaging for me! However, I stopped playing League because ranked was just too toxic, so I just played Genshin. When you started doing Genshin content, it was just the best thing because you've already become one my favorite content creators! I really like the path you're going to, and I'll keep supporting you all the way! Looking forward to what you'll cover in the future :)
Genshin could've been amazing, but for people who actually care about gameplay, this game game has been a letdown. They actively try to put bs mechanics in the game, don't give a fff about player feedback, and even saying end game = anxiety but constantly puts out time gated/limited events.
Hoyo basically follows masterclass on how to make profit in life service game in terms of game play. Basically make every player have "same" chances in game, except if the player spend money. Avoid gameplay that depend heavily on player's skill. There's so many combat techniques and fun glitches that got patched already. I'm still bitter for the fact that mihoyo patched TCF tech way too soon..lol
Oh. Finally someone who understands the core of genshin. This is rare. I'm not a veteran player, I started out a year ago but I did watch ppl play Genshin since day one. I agree that Genshin has a good formula for giving out contents. Essentially Genshin is a casual game. Casual Mobile Gacha to be precise. You can enjoy the story, the gameplay or even try-hard on Abyss. But it's not a game to be speed-ran or play 20hours a day kind of game. Also the events. I for one am very grateful and find it fun. Something small and new adding up every week/2 weeks. On top of that getting in-game rewards for it. But maybe I'm enjoying it more bcs I don't particularly care about Abyss or just any big-pp-number meta stuff. Even if my artifacts aren't the best, I still can clear everything in the overworld.
I'm a veteran player, I do the story in 3 days, do a whole event in 1 day, do commissions, spend resin, and then I log of. This gets kinda repetitive after 3 years. Genshin gets really boring when you repeat the same thing hundreds of times. Genshin also doesn't care about people that want to play for more than 15 minutes a day. Genshin doesn't add difficult game modes ,not just abyss DPS check, but game modes where you have to dodge, because abyss causes too much anxiety. They induce anxiety by adding a timer and then they say that adding for example: a endless mode would cause too much anxiety. The gamemodes are usually just worse versions of others games you could've downloaded, if genshin was 11gb. Why play tcg, if I can play Lor? This is just my opinion though, so maybe I'm just not the target audience.
@@charmelos1431 I’m a veteran player as well, day 1. I complete everything I need to do in around 10 minutes -events, it’s very convenient because I don’t have a lot of time, so I want to spend time on other games too, like league, rocket league, upcoming solo games, (waiting for Zelda totk currently). I’m really glad that it can be completed so fast, because I can farm all the primos available, and when a new update with a new region drops I have tons of resources to enjoy the game while pulling for new characters. I don’t find it particularly fun to do the 10 min daily, but I don’t really find it boring either. It’s basically a routine. I put on arknights autoplay in the background, pull up a yt video, and go through it without much thought. But when a new region drops I free my schedule and then I can spend 8+ hours every day for a couple of days, then repeat until the next region drop.
that line where Necrit said, " but we haven't seen a new story for this universe since oct last year" sadly true, as a lore content creator from PH... Yone's release was the best for me cause Ruined King turned to be... idk.. looking for more Lore Champs Riot Games!
Early Genshin was a struggle to be sure, but ever since 3.0 with Sumeru it easily became one of my favourite games of recent time. From a day 1 players perspective Inazuma left me exhausted and made me take a break for a few months, yet when the trailer for 3.0 came out it hooked me right back in. Something that league has struggled to do since the announcement of Viego. And we all know how that ended...
@@arkeus5246 for me its that it feel like it could be its own game in a series of games, Sumeru made itself stand out with an amazing story and characters much more than Taxzuma did. Part of the reason for example why people were so mad at the whole Dehya issue isn't because shes just a waifu bait but because they made a liked character bad
I being crushed by Inazuma story pacing, still cant bring myself to actually play game. Maybe as i finish with star rail i'll bring myself to play it again
@@jidojagaming9986 not to mention some pro players dont even play league anymore besides the required games the team demands from them (look at wunder). Moreover some of them dont have fun anymore and only treat it as a job. Theres also a lot of those who just take the paycheck and arent even competetive not to mention lack of ambitions which is just disgusting. I think riot abandoning casual play took a part in all of these examples
as person who played genshin since 1.1 and didn't make break for more than a week (so didn't miss any events) i can say that sometimes it feels overwhelming trying to catch up because sometimes life is too busy and exhausting but when you play casually and just relax it always a blast to play the game. Genshin really built for casual, not fast pacing gameplay (especially with the lore because hell i need sometimes too much effort for my small brain to connect all dots). And it's really feels frustrating when players whine for no new content or that genshin is too casual (which in some way - fair. you have not much places to face a challenge except for abyss or when tryhard for platina medal in combat event) but i think if game would be different - i wouldn't play this for so long. i enjoy playing and exploring the world playing with a lot of different comps and playing different mini-games as it is and having more features in exploring and world quests are more valuable for me than hardcore gameplay (such thing made me drop another game which i enjoyed but the wall of extreme pay to win is too much). anyway i'm really happy to see you enjoy the game and it's lore! I'm not going to jump into star rail (i have not much time for so many ongoing games) and will be happy to explore through you!
Said everything I had in mind! Genshin being a casual game while extremely interesting and fun. Makes me continue to enjoy gaming so much in my busy stage of life.
for real ! imo some people can really underrate the peaceful of the game and how they constantly giving us new stuffs to try even tho not all of them are gud =]]
I know it may be a surprising thing to say, but you know, you don't have to complete every single content in the game and just let people who want any kind of challenge have fun.
@@agrix7436 Well yeah, sure, i have nothing against it. I just said my thoughts and go more for my preferences. Personally i saw a lot of complains from one perspective (tryharders, challengers etc) and i even said that their complains fair too i just can't relate much to this opinions because i'm playing another way so i pointed at it. Even if i do time at time some silly or hardcore challenges, just well - not what i seek in _this_ game on constant basic. And generally it's not my buisness to tell how other people should or shouldn't play or have fun. I just express my preferences and thoughts which was inspired by Necrit's opinion, that's all.
It's been awesome to see Necrit and Zepla trying Genshin and Star Rail out and enjoying both games. Genshin's 6 week content cycle is great. Does anyone remember WoD's content drought and the infamous selfie patch? Oh man... It took 434 days from the last patch to Legion. These games are not meant to be played 24/7, but they're great for people who don't have as much time for games and don't have many hours after work when they get home. Even if you do complete all the content, then you can just take a break, play other games, and come back whenever there's more content for you.
Feel refreshing to hear that out loud. The community talk a lot about the negative, but I always had a positive outlook on the game and having someone else saying it kinda confirmed what deep inside I always knew but let the internet spoild for me
@@yomoheiliv6375 Genshin is a hobby I don't mind speaking of the negative every once in a while but not been able to go on any sm without seeing it get old
Star rail is real fun although most people don't like turn base but I think hoyoverse executed the idea real well by making a turn base game into a half open world too its like genshin, but if it is in the stars and the combat is turn based very good I would recommend you to try it out
Veteran players don't like a lot of the events because a lot of them are still just grindy. If you've been grinding artifacts non-stop for years, many of the events can feel dull.
reasons why genshin events are not as appreciated 1.they repeat themselves, sometimes its literal copy paste from last one with so little interaction, incentive to do more than abre minimum and the better designed ones still give few interaction points 2. they downgrade, tower defense game mode was good, then got worse, then they made mushroom version and was not as interesting to the original one 3. the coop for most of these is bad, clunky or useless, very few of these have current coop options, itou beetle event could have had 7 recolors, 7 stickers and the sizes to allow players customize and pvp between them 4. the biggest one, people get left out often, "you werent playing in version 1? good luck seeing the first mona and albedo events with huge lore chunks tied to them" since they dont rerun 5. archive saves story, but event story? even a recap? nope
Its now 78 days since Necrit got me addicted to Genshin Impact. I'm going to crown my first skill this weekend- Ive also come to realize Kuki is a top 5 waifu. I can do floor 12 of Spiral Abyss but I cant get stars from it yet. Sometimes I feel a little regret not starting years ago but I'm content to not be thirsting for new content. Genshin is life now.
KUKI HAS A TOP TIER CHARACTER DESIGN. im glad you weren't there when she was considered trash because dendro didnt happen. Im glad i built her solely because i loved her as waifu!
@@leolyrics4958 The black Iron Sword? Thats what I went with. The Iron Sting is a bit better but Black Iron looks really good on her and is cheap to upgrade
4:57 to answer this question, YES. It's basically the essence of a gacha game to have regular updates introducing new characters and some story. Literally every gacha game does this
cant wait for him to go in-depth into the lore the way he does for his league vids! I have listened to his lore videos and some of my knowledge of league lore comes from him. I know there are other genshin lore CCs but as someone who knows the caliber of this man and his videos, I look forward when he really starts analysing the lore :D
I tried genshin because of you (I didn’t watch your video but I trust your opinion) and you were right, a masterpiece. I’m confused why some genshin players say “we hate it but we play it”, how coukd you say you hate a game with a good ost, good story, good gameplay, good exploration, and the gacha system works in a way that keeps players from getting everything from first day, and thus they can have fun for longer time and enjoy more when they do unlock things. There’s really a small amount of things to complain about. The passion of everyone involved and they talent shines through every side of Genshin and as someone that has played videogames his whole life and I have my own game idea that want to develop in the future; I’ll say this again; this game is a masterpiece.
@@Swagbastian not in the slightest The game actively encourages taking your time, the characters themselves tell you to enjoy the road (like fr they always do 💀) They encourage you to buy the pass, which doesn’t just give you the rewards in one sitting, but daily gives you an amount during the month (which means they encourage you to spend once or twice monthly and that’s it). The game is by no meaning pushing meta, pushing hours of gameplay, nor pushing thousands of spendings, like Necrit said in this video, people decide by their own hand to spend money. You can totally get all you want by being free to play and managing your resources smartly.
All those events are short lived. Yes the content itself is fine. But it wouldn't be needed if the game had a working game-loop/endcontent. Daily logins force you to play every day without anything to do every day. This breaks people. On some days you have events and those days are fine, but the next day the event is over and all content left is pulling the gacha machine (the only think which is not time gated). This is a perfect maniplulation tactic. Solution: Dayly logins need to be forbidden, weeklys are fine but not dailys.
I like that you mentioned the variety of the events but also chuckle a little because in Genshin's predecessor, Honkai Impact 3rd, we've had an even more insane amount of games within games for events and even just material farming. Everything from 2d platformers to top-down shoot-em-ups to pokemon with DNA splicing to open world metroidvania-style vertical slices to literally fall guys. Gacha games really do pump out an insane amount of content, most of which ends up being good! More folks need to get over their "game bad cause gacha" attitudes and embrace the good in these properties without endorsing the bad.
And yet most of the genshin playerbase on Reddit keep asking for same combat content and complain when hoyoverse introduce unique events and gameplay that's out of the normal gameplay. Some of them are hit and miss but I appreciate the variety.
Indeed, let's not forget how often Honkai has 4 or more events going at once, while still having the daily and weekly missions (Abyss, ER, MA and open world) active. It can be a time-sink if you don't have self-control tbh.
Me being both in Genshin since it started and League just as it was crashing, I kinda know how both games feel rn. I started league apx when neeko came out. When snow rift was still a thing and spirit blossom made it's mark. After that only skins and competitive play was the main focus. While Genshin had a big boom of new players and updated all the time. I also played genshin a bit too much at some point and figured out how it doesn't pay off to complete everything, so now i'm a totaly casual player and just wait for the story events and come online ever so often, while playing league with friend groups. One is for playing with friends while the other for single player relaxation.
Now that you're on your Gacha Game arc, it'd be very neat if you got into the Project Moon universe through Limbus Company... (and then played the other two games, Lobotomy Corporation and Library of Ruina, and read all the side media, etc)
@@smug_slime Yep, I've been sitting on my 60/120 Artifacts, and not to mention all the supports and just enjoyed the game slowly every 1-2 patch cycle. There's almost always enough to do once patches comes.
I find it so funny how League prioritizes veterans over casuals and new players while genshin is doing the opposite. The reason most veteran players hate genshin is that they got nothing to do aside from mindlessly farming artifacts and waiting for Abyss to reset. Nothing else really... The events got really stale after almost 3 years
You'd think that until you remember that the new players have to go through 4 regions to level up some of the new characters. I really didn't think about it until I introduced some people to the game and got the complain that they can't get the Inazuma resources because the place isn't unlocked for them yet.
@@grayarystorjz53 ¾ of character are nearly useless in coop. And making that kind of boss would make game p2w becouse you would need special teams or synergy
Shadow Amidst Snowstorms event was one of their absolute best events and i will stand by that until they bring it back. To spoil it (because most who have started now will never get the chance to play it, although i recommend looking up the cutscenes online!), it's an event centered around Albedo. And despite watching the cutscenes MANY times, I apologize if some events aren't in the exact order! Albedo has been behaving strangely. From the polite and stoic attitude that he usually presents, where he's both trying to adjust to having people around and considering them as friends (since he mostly lived away from civilization for many years), he suddenly behaves... very differently. One of the first hints we get is that he did not stop to greet the traveler, and he behaved quite rudely to Timaeus, one of his colleagues and subordonates (he is the Chief Alchemist of the Knights of Favonius). When he does return to talk to the traveler, he behaves smugly and a little bit sassy. Now Albedo does have some sass with his wording, but this felt... very different. He felt erratic. The original feeling of the first encounter with Albedo during this event is that he is... hiding something. Something about this day made him change quite drastically. We decide to go look for him at his usual spot in Dragonspine after we talk to Sucrose and Timaeus. On the way there, the Adventure Guild is organizing an event to train new recruits and they ask us for help. Eula and Amber join us, but we quickly part ways as we decide to try and meet with Albedo first, especially because this child, Joel, approaches us to find his father and we think Albedo would be able to help us. As we walk towards Albedo's cave in Dragonspine, we get attacked but we're quickly saved by Albedo and we start walking to his cave. On the way there, we discuss about learning how to paint and he describes using a special kind of starsilver to make the paint glittery, and in this case... he behaves normally, like nothing happened. But when we arrive to the cave, we discover everything is ravaged. Alchemical blueprints are missing, which means that a thief must've stolen them. Albedo seems... thoughtful about it, like there's something he isn't telling us. But we embark on our way to discover the thief. On the way, an avalanche happens that sends us far off the cliff to another place in Dragonspine, we decide to part ways as Albedo wants to make sure this wasn't caused by the thief. He tells us to stay right where we are and wait for him, as Dragonspine is very dangerous. We quickly get bored and Paimon suggests we start looking for high quality starsilver for Albedo to turn to paint. Albedo returns and asks us what we are doing, and we tell him we found some starsilver for him to use. Right then is when we notice one important detail about him is missing... Usually, Albedo bears a gold star shaped symbol on his neck, almost like a tattoo, but in this case it's missing. Us (the traveler) take notice of this but don't mention anything about it. And it feels like Albedo suddenly doesn't remember our conversations, about the paint or the thief. And then we hear Bennett call out for help and we decide to go rescue him. Interestingly enough, Albedo doesn't join us. During the event you have the option to go save Bennett right away, or... take a couple of steps backwards and explore a cave in the nearby area. When I did the event, I did that first. What we discover there is an alchemy table that's fallen over, a chest and some gemstones used for Alchemy. We don't have a lot to go off of, but we figure this must be the thief's lair. We go rescue Bennett and then meet up with Albedo again, and then with Amber and Eula and we decide to return to Albedo's cave to rest. There we learn that Albedo can procure pretty much any object as long as he has the blueprint for it. Once again Albedo behaves normally, he's friendly to everyone and really seems to warm up to people. After we rest, we decide to go back to the camp outside of Dragonspine where the Adventure Guild is, but on the way we're hit with ANOTHER avalanche, this time a much more dangerous one. Us, Eula and Amber manage to avoid it, but Bennett falls and Albedo jumps to save him. We go down to try and find them and we only encounter Bennett, him telling us that despite Albedo saving him, the Alchemist quickly disappeared soon after. We decide to continue onwards towards the camp despite being lost, and what do you know, we encounter Albedo on the way! But this one is ALSO different! He's not calm or collected and he's easily distracted, compared to when we talked to him the four previous times. He's also missing the star, which the traveler quickly notices. This "Albedo" ends up taking us the complete wrong direction and soon we find ourselves in a trap. One of the coolest battle cutscenes plays (please PLEASE find it online and watch it) and before this "Albedo" does anything worse, the real Albedo appears and stabs the "Albedo" in the back then tells us to get away. The "Albedo" turns into a giant Whopperflower and we fight it (it's also the boss of the event and it was super fun to fight against, especially in co-op.) We win against it and return to the camp safely this time, and Albedo explains to us, after we return to his cave, that this whopperflower wanted so badly to know what it's like to be loved by humans, that he was trying to replace him. But... he still seems to be withholding information, which we notice even in our dialogue options. Still, we don't press any further and decide to just believe Albedo. At the very end, he seems to be talking to someone else, talking about how after being discarded for being a faulty prototype, he was searching to replace him, and Albedo summons his sword and the camera angle changes to view Albedo from above... with another Albedo looking down at him. We don't get to see the two of them fight it off, but we assume the other Albedo is also killed. Or... is he? Some fun facts: - this Albedo is often referred in the fandom as Rubedo, but he does have an actual name! In the game files, people have found that the name of the model is Dorian, in reference to The Picture of Dorian Gray, and I personally only really refer to him as Dorian. - the thief's cave, which is easy to figure out that it's Dorian's cave, is the ONLY area from an event that remains permanently in the world post-event. There are many other events that introduce new areas, but they're all temporary besides the cave in Dragonspine. You can go visit it, it's in the Entombed City Outskirts, above the lake, you'll see a Cryo Cicin mage in front of it. - Dorian created the whopperflower Albedo! As to why, it's still unclear, but I really hope we revisit this storyline. (It's been 500+ long... long days....) - remember how in the beginning this kid asks us to find his father? Well, it's an actual quest you can still do in game, and, spoilers, you do find his father but with no memories. Many assume that it's Dorian that shapeshifted into him to start being among humans, but I personally think that Dorian instead experimented on him to create the whopperflower version of himself/Albedo, since it doesn't really seem like Dorian has any actual shapeshifting abilities and that Dorian and Albedo are supposed to look either really similar or the exact same (given Dorian is the prototype, so Albedo is based on his appearance rather than Dorian being based on Albedo's) - some people assume we saw Dorian in the recent Windblume event (2023) as he was, once again, behaving a little weird, but who knows!
If you want to discuss more about this event, let's become mutuals on Twitter! You can find me at showsiick, I usually just post my art there but my DMs are open always.
Also genshin makes exceptional husbandos think back before the 2020 the I couldn't think any husbando before genshin aside from the child crush with Cloud from FF
Most live service games ive played in my life simply do not do try with different game modes, maybe besides fornite with their in game concerts and stuff like that. I don't need a major game mode like the tcg every patch, i do enjoy the small things, like going around iconic places in mondstad and taking a picture, or a small auto battler with fungi. It is that simple tho, casual gaming is just amazing. I wish more companies would realize that.
Hearing about this model in Genshin sort of reminds me of Warframe. From when I started playing it until a friend told me "hey there's this cool looking game we should play", things were already different. Then we stopped playing for a while and when we came back, sure a couple of Warframes were added that were the typical "farm parts to get", but also a new special one that required your 'frame to become infected, let the infection grow, and treat it in a new part of your spaceship that was previously unaccessible. Then we didn't play for a while and BAM Archwings, special suits designed for a new kind of maps, with their own weapons. And then BAM a special space ship you can build with friends that allows you to have one friend piloting while the rest move around it. Then BAM Plaines of Eidolon, a complete Open-World map with a bunch of stuff to do. And just recently I saw about a new update that adds a new "playeable character" that's not a 'frame, with a whole new story, gameplay elements, weapons and what not. And to top it off, it's one of THE best communitties in gaming I've ever found. Even in PvP I haven't found a single toxic player, in fact I met someone who was destroying me, asked him what 'frame was he using, and he added me to HELP ME FARM FOR IT.
I like warframe I just don't like the grind For every new content they release it's a new thing yes but also a new grinding Here's a wing so you can fly but oh here's the game mode to farm the upgrade and your Main weapon is unusable Here's open world where you can be free from small corridor but oh here's their own reputation point system/map boss New crew ship > new farm Character in you warframe > New exp grind I like the old time where you grinding for 1 thing but you also got material for other things
Alot of people shit on genshin for being anime game and not having endgame(cuz its caters casuals mostly) but its honestly kinda insane how for a live service game they keep releasing new areas every 2-3 patch with top tier music. Not to mention the lore progressively getting better when devs were criticized during Inazuma
"I missed out on Genshin, I don't want that to happen again" Same dude, same. I played Genshin and managed to stay on top of it until the Albedo event with the Frost zone came out. After that, I just didn't see how I could catch up. Time to hop on the Star Rail and try not to fall off for as long as I can : )
I was among those who didn't care much for Fungi Mechanicus (the auto-battler), but it was really just because I love Theater Mechanicus and was disappointed that FM wasn't a new evolution of it lol
No its not. I'm part of the community and i realy love/hate genshin. And its made by design. The forced DAILY LOGINS combined with ONLY 15min playtime is the real problem! It's a designed conflict which will annoy many players after the honyemoon phase. Some can adapt to it, but most break. Again its a problem by design to force you to either quit, spend money or stay bored. Remove the forced daily logins and the conflict is gone. Weekly or monthy logins are fine. This would allow us to take a break. Casuals should be annoyed by this as well. Daily logins are not chilling. Even at work we get free days and weekends. In my opinion daily logins should be forbidden by law. This conflict will not vanish until they EITHER: "remove dailys" or give us a "game-loop/endcontent".
@@sofieberger8851 hmm instead of forced, rather , Hoyo utilize the FOMO aspects of daily login and resin cap. Especially on f2p players. Personally, I don't really have a problem w missing out on dailies or events or resins, that's up to per individual. I agree on more activities tho, either make resin cap higher , since there's so many domain addition now and more character released, or make a looping combat mode, or maybe a map reset every now and then since after 100% map exploration, there's really no incentive to hang around.
@@sofieberger8851 you wont get that "endgame" its not gonna happen, just move on. I play overwatch only once a week because the balance is dogshit. Its not hard. Just move on or play less.
@@mangshu21 thank you for your recommendation. Yes i should do what you say ... but i can't. I'm to addicted, without a similiar game (withering waves/blue protocol lets pray) i can't move on. At least i know i'm addicted ... its somehow strange to see youtuber and other people going through similiar phases with this game (addiction/love/hate). Its crazy.
@@sofieberger8851bro most gacha games has the daily login system and who cares if you don't do it? It's only 60 gems. Also instead of complaining that genshin has "no repayable content" how about you focus that energy on criticizing hsr being dryer than the Sahara desert. It's always genshin but never hsr.
Genshin was my first gacha and I honestly downloaded it as a joke and figured it would be terrible. 1300 hours later I can proudly say that I have absolutely fallen in love with it. Kayea is my favorite character and all I can say is that it is an experience like no other game in my opinion, even if its very casual. Awsome video dude ❤️
I didn't know that you are playing genshin and I'm amazed. That will be great to see more grnshin related videos from you. You're just making great videos no metter what game it is.
I love Genshin Impact, but I'm seriously enjoying Star Rail right now while waiting for new Genshin content (I kind of blow through new achievements/events/regions really quick to primo farm). I seriously think you'll enjoy the new game too!
Necrit, man, it is Heaven's Bless that you don't know about the Honkai Impact 3rd. A game that adds a NEW MINIGAME IN every 3-6 weeks, from a dice poker club (collect right dices for attack) and plants against zombies (absolut copy) to a fancy auto-battler and a tetris puzzle (collect blocks in a limited area in combination to strengthen your valkyries in battle). Happy You ) PS: Genshin have better story, but Honkai Impact 3rd have story about personality growth. And Golden Courtyard... one of the best stories ever. A-and, all Hoyoverse games in one Multiverse. Live with it, Loremaster )
As someone who played Genshin for awhile, its a fun game, I quit cause like Necrit said, I tried hard and sped up the game. I loved the story and that was the biggest reason I stayed. But eventually I hit a point in the game where I was caught up with story, all I did was log in to do dailies and log out, it was a feeling that I got on the game to do a chore (dailies) and the fun wasn't there. So for those who are thinking of going back to Genshin, or want to play it. Do it! its a fun game nonetheless, just play at a pace that suites you, cause if you rush yourself ahead of what you need like I did, you can find yourself getting pretty burnt out really quick. That and the biggest issue with Genshin is, lets say you're a new player, and region X just released, if you see a character from Region X and get them from the banner you cant build them up if you dont have that region unlocked as all they're materials to level up is from that region, being bosses, etc. So you'd have to play thru every main-quest line til you reach that region
Update: On top of all the other games within the game Genshin has, Necrit forgot to call out the game-mode, a card game, if im not mistaken its a permanent mode?
Actually the only storylocked region in Genshin is Inazuma. If you need Sumeru materials you can just go there as a new player and get them. And I assume that will also be the case moving forward, except maybe for Snezhnaya.
imo hoyovere i the exact opposite of riot. hoyoverse is not really focused on the competitive players (the battle hungry veteran players that want more enemy and way of fighting) while riot used to focus on the competitive players.(they said this year they will give some love to the casual players)
I am genuinely happy you are now on your gacha arc, together with us other gacha players ... Really love good content creator covering our fave games.. good luck on your pulls!
to be fair comparing events 4 genshin vs league is truly a good point but on the long run the events just feels worse for a long player but thankfully there is no rank so you can always not do them and play genshin when big updates arrives
Exactly what i say. Games that have a working game-loop/endcontent don't need events - or at least not as much as genshin. After completing the game the events are all thats left in genshin - thats it, thats all - so they are forced to have much more of these than any other game. Thats fine during the honeymoon phase but gets very stale/bad after the first or second year. And events are not always active. Combine this with forced daily logins and nothing left to do after 15min playtime and you get bored people who start to hate the game besides wanting to love it. Its a artificial conflict by design. In my opinion dailys should be forbidden by law, weeklis are fine but not dailys.
I mean you're comaring genshin to the bottom of the barrel. I'm not too familiar with current-day league, but when I played they had 4 permanent game modes. Twisted Treelines and Dominion is now gone. So what remains is ARAM, Summoners ZZZZ and whatever else they've maybe added since. They did some kind of auto chess thing, but that became it's own standalone game? Regardless comparing an open-world game vs a match-based MOBA isn't exactly the best comparison.
@@sofieberger8851 It doesn't help that the gameplay loop of Genshin is very stale and basically entirely based around the teams you put together and their artifacts. Characters being locked behind gacha hell and artifacts being locked behind a daily super RNG hell grind. I spent 3 months farming in 1 domain to get something, ANYTHING, nice for Childe...yeah I quit the game shortly after as the story tanked in quality and the lack of proper end-game never got addressed. Also doesn't help that the story is just...not good most of the time. Even when it gets a bit interesting it presents it in a very cheesy and/or rushed manner. The side-stories and the limited-events have relatively inoffensive stories, but that also makes them extremely dry and boring. At least the game modes they present are pretty fun, but because they're limited time they won't get improved or added upon unless they return in the future for another event.
@@paledrake you are correct with everything. The fun part, the story itself is somehow good BUT the storyTELLING is bad. I distinguish between the story itself and the way they present it. Dottore killing all his clones is impressive BUT WE DONT SEE IT. All we get are standing characters talking with each other. Again and again and again.
@@sofieberger8851 This. The lore and the world is very intersectional and what happens in it too is good on paper. The problem lies in the execution and the presentation. The civil war in Inazuma has no war tactics in it (Kokomi tactical genius btw) and is generally sloppy instead of having awe-striking set-pieces. Azdaja was interesting, but the story up until the reveal was unengaging at best and the little girl was just goofy most of the time, ESPECIALLY THE MEAN-FACE STOMP IN THE CUTSCENE (I couldn't stop laughing). Also don't get me started on how they handled Signora and how jarring Scaramoch's new player introduction is. Liyue is also dead set on beating into you how grateful people are towards Rex Lapis and how they're basically good to live on their own for 80% of its runtime. Ironically Mondstadt has the best paced and presented story out of the first 3 regions. I can't comment on Sumeru since I've only looked up bits and pieces after I quit.
all i'm gonna say is u will start loving more of the combat gameplay when u get good artifacts, unlock characters and try new team comps at a point where u just want more combat oriented gameplay(at hard difficulty).
A person interested in lore and stories not liking the combat isn't as weird as one might think. Hell, I've been playing since the game launched and not once did I get the urge to do Abyss because I care about the open world and not the Mything Dungeon wannabe.
@@spiritwildfiregaming1975 bro I didn't say I'm not interested in lore. I'm up to date with lore. For example primordial one and the dragon souvenirs, the pari(s) being the product of 3 gods, dainsleif and jester(I think) fighting along side a God which I find pretty ironic(mentioned at the end of pari quest), Xiao was being slaved by a tyrant and had to kill innocent ppl and eat their dreams and many more. But a game's core is its gameplay. There's a reason y many old games(even present) did not even have a story but it was still massively successful. Yes I'm still fine with how the game is going and matter of fact I think it will go even higher in this route but it can go even higher and more enjoyable.
@@M_K499 "But a game's core is its gameplay. There's a reason y many old games(even present) did not even have a story but it was still massively successful" Do...RPGs not count? Because usually the story is their whole thing. Hell, Morrowind's gameplay is atrocious by most people's standard and yet people don't mind it because its story and world are great. Also I didn't say that you in particular didn't care about lore. I mentioned that usually people who care about the world and lore don't really play such games for the sake of challenge, but for...well, the world and the lore.
@@charmelos1431 hard doesn't always mean dps check. I just want the enemies to have a higher movement speed, attack speed, higher damage and rng attacks (or) attack patterns in the open world. At least I want them to add these features in a optional world level
What I love about mihoyo is the sheer fact that they always play risk with new things if it flops or people just over all don’t like it they improve upon it and try another style it’s honestly quite refreshing
@@Swagbastianthey literally tune the event Game modes trying to get new takes on what people didnt like about them and they just keep going better and better
@@Swagbastian it is though, mainly teathre mechanicus, and now the fungi event rebranded, running around with MC was shit. The controls on this new one are also shit, but the concept is way better in my opinion, next time might be just right
@@Swagbastian It is definitely proof, since we havent seen or heard anything about that awful food delivery event. I really hope they fired and sent that person who come up with that event to insane asylum..
I personally fell in love with, specifically, Genshin's combat aspect. Doing Anemo Traveler's ultimate against those Pyro slimes and creating a fire tornado immediately sold me to the game back when it first came out. I wish Abyss Reset was weekly instead of every 2 weeks...
I will be totally honest i love genshin and played the game since the release for 2 years without miss a single day i had all the story done, i did all the events they offered, i had 100% exploration for every region (before Sumeru release) and i could do abyss 36 stars since february 2021 and after 6 months i could do that but easily and all of this as a f2player, i would spend hours playing in co-op with randoms or even help friends who started playing it was totally a magic game that If i didnt had time i could play for 10 minutes or spend the whole day playing it was one of the greatest experiences i had in game but now even tho the story stills really good, the exploration and the events incredible, i still feel that i dont have use to my characters fully build because i can do abyss without thinking and thats what hurts me about the game hope on day they fix that part, but im happy that it stills a great game for new players and i totally recomend all my friends that didnt played before even tho for me its just a montly story nowadays thank you for the video and i hope you continue to enjoy this incredible game
Yeah I feel the same, it is annoying because the fix would be so simple, just make an end game where you can't reuse the same characters so challenge would come from building good enough teams, and it would all of your build characters useful, not only the strongest ones. Also anybody could participate in that, weaker accounts would just do less chambers then stronger ones.
I think my favorite thing about Genshin is that it's not only the least predatory gatcha of all time, but also it's one of the best PVE games ever. It is literally an entire game of PVE, with little to no competitiveness. This is a plus for me atleast, since I prefer a chill game that has levels. Genshin manages to be fun and challenging, with actual strategy put in place. Though I am still salt god over the fact that the common thought is every harbringer will be playable EXCEPT Signora out of fairness for the people who liked her.
@@charmelos1431Half truth half lie. It can be considered as not predatory gacha since A) there is a limit to how much you get screwed over. Japanese gachas have no requirement for pity or spark, unlike other Asian gachas like Genshin. B) Hoyo avoids requiring meta defining characters to clear content C) Primos are easy to come by And D) Genesis crystals to Primo is one-to-one. Could be and there exists worse.
@@synckar6380 while it has a good pity system genshin has one of the lower rates out of any gacha aI have come across, it has less than 1% chance of an ssr, don't forget that you also need to use the weapon gacha to get at least some decent dmg
@@charmelos1431 my idea of predatory was based on how much they advertise the spending itself, in which Genshin honestly doesn't bother to throw the Wish screen at you too often
What gets me mad is how some people just act like it's impossible for League to have actual events, an evolving story, alternative game modes, all of that. It's not exactly an unheard of concept in games like this. And yes, we absolutely SHOULD compare Riot and HoYoverse.
As much as people shit on Genshin for being an anime gacha game, you gotta hand it to Mihoyo. You can't deny that they at least keep trying to make every event feel unique and different. And although not every event is amazing, you can still feel that they cared enough to justify your time and effort playing the game. Which is something that I can't say the same to for Riot and how they make events.
Their demographic is one thing, whales. League doesn't have whales it has Collectors, people who choose to buy skins and accessories that do nothing of their own accord. Genshin is pandering to people who has a ton of cash and want something now than working hard for it.
@@toopink4death492 gacha game are a ressource management marathon for 90%+ of the players because they are f2p. Bulk of the revenues comes from a very large amount of low low spenders or occasional spenders. Whale oriented gacha usually push hardcore pvp content and have a very small playerbase. It's not the case for genshin though, it's a classic fomo casual oriented gacha.
The problem with the minigames, like you mentioned the autobattler, is the fact that they are almost never challenging enough. In the latest summer event, the cannon minigame I can just spam left click and get enough points to get all the rewards, that's just sad.
Regarding 7:32, as a player who started playing genshin since it got released, yes the game events feel incredibly redundant. I am well aware this is whining at a high level, but these events feel soulless to me. It's the same assets you've seen the last years, the same game mechanics of catching, activating or destroying something, and also the same enemy/NPC models. Some of the events are literally just fighting the monsters you've been fighting all the time, except now f.e. you get 30% extra damage when switching characters. Because of that, to me around 80% of the events feel incredibly lazy, while the remaining 20% at least implement new game mechanics like the auto-battler, but even that felt mediocre to me because everything from assets to targeting system to overlays was already used in other events. I'm probably in the minority, but personally I only play genshin out of habit, as Necrit correctly said, it is truly a convenient game to just log in for 20min, smack some enemies around and leave. Anything else is just a drag.
i will ONLY go back to this game if they add a skip dialogue button and i dont have to spam space for literally 10 minutes each time theres a new story
Maybe we are spoiled by the sheer quality of the game, but mini games is not what you want from events. Most of them are half assed and i'm not taking "casual game" as excuse for it. Tower defence event was fun, also prop hunt, arena fights are just do it as always (mechanics doesn't matter), neutral about puzzle events, photo\collecting stuff\mini games are always boring. For combat events it's literally the stronger you are, the less fun you have in game. And i never been bored of Genshin's combat.
The big thing is - events in between new main story chapters has been the bread and butter of gatcha players for years. That's just how Gatcha Games work. Honkai Impact, Arknights, Food Fantasy, all sprinkle events and other little things in between big story drops and have been doing it for a long time.
It's 2017, just lost 5 games in a row, demotion is close and it's just 8:00pm. Pro players said to play the PvE when tilted, proceed to play star guardian a bit, tilt is gone and I'm even praised by teammates for saving the game. Return to ranked to try to save my rank. It's 2020, lost 3 games in a row, odyssey event just ended, nowhere to release tilt. Started playing genshin, tilt is gone, I should go back to League... Couldn't make it back that day. I still play league but it's not taking 5 hrs a day or 16 on weekends as before.
Guild War 2 tried doing it "living story" thing which is live story update, the problem is the server get overloaded on launch day and it was buggy... they abandoned it quickly and move to a slower "season" scheduling which is still impressive... However Genshin is the first game I play that didn't have any noticeable "DAY 1" bugs in their new content like those earlier attempt... the way MHY rotate their developer and beta testing to keep a high quality is really on a class of its own. to do this they need 4 to 6 team so each team can work on a patch for 4-6 month than have another month for testing and fixing before they release... they turn patch making into a mass production pipeline....
ill say, as a veteran since what, 2021? i definitely got numb. the journeu from ar 45 to 60 is just so long and artifact farming definitely consumed most of that time. this definitely made me slow things down a bit to appreciate everything that came out
The game has good lore but bad characters and story ☠️ and no the game isnt good lmao even the gameplay is just decent and then there is the abysmal "events" or updates that practically add nothing
Agree with the huge updates being super underappreciated, 1 half and a month for each update is insane. For the spiral abyss tho 😅 I only do floor 9 and 10 and would love if we actually had rotation of enemies. Theyve been the same ever since I started doing it Im a bit tired (I think floor 12 does change but Im unsure about 11)
9-12 always change? They’re the only stages that change every few weeks. Unless you’ve been playing for less than a few months I don’t know how you can’t notice new enemies being introduced to Floor 9 and 10.
I believe 9-12 changes, however I think they arre always two same ones in the row, they just reset. Aka every 4 weeks new enemies every 2 weeks reward reset.
@@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_ yeah thats what I thought. I mean it does have fungi so I did think at some point it had to change but man. 9 is fine as is but I really want them to mix it up for 10 at least
So basically, you haven't played much actual live service games, so you have a low bar for what's "good" lol. "Who cares if you miss dailies?" Ya man who cares about progression in an rpg? lol.
@@ERMIL1 obviously because Sumeru just came out. Just like how there was so much content when Inazuma dropped it's islands. 3.5 was pretty much a filler update for what 3.6 is offering
veteran players of genshin especially F2P ones are only numb to rotating game modes in Genshin because the rewards they provide are assyou usually get about 1 or 2 crowns to get an ability to level 10 and roughly about 5 Pulls worth of primo-gems. That is the main issue people have with genshin events it doesnt feel rewarding participating in them. unless you're new and participate for the heck of it~ put theres also the perspective of players that went to genshin to avoid other games. like you go and play tft have a 10 game loosing streak where you hit bottom 3. only to be reminded of that BS in genshin during the autobattler event. so on and so forth~
Idk, more times than not the story of genshin was pretty bad, apart from the recent caribert quest which made me confused because the dude has conflicting responses when it comes to Caribert’s well being but it made sense after the story, but apart from that quests it has been pretty bad since most quests are plague with overbloated non skippable dialouges, the annoying “Interpret” system that wants you to interpret the situation in only one way which also slows down the story, and it mostly focuses on NPCs that no one cares about. I still don’t know how the majority of players feel any emotion towards the death of a certain NPC they just met an hour ago. Genshin has great character and world design along with a good set of music, but what it never had is a good story… It had a good amout of lore but never a good narrative. I find the minigames fun since I play with other people, but when alone they are not interesting specially the recent ones besides the rhythm minigame.
It's good to see you enjoying your time playing Genshin and Honkai Star Rail. Genshin is a really great game because of the constant updates and mini games, lots of people would die for their favorite game to have an inch of the content Hoyoverse puts on Genshin.
Other games have a working game-loop/endcontent they don't need new events every month. I would prefer 80% less events and have something to do whenever i want to do it. And by the way: events are not always active and its by design. Cause while they force you to log in daily. They want you to be bored occasionaly after 15min playtime, so all thats left to do is "pull the gacha trigger (not time gated)". Daily logins should be forbidden, weeklys are fine, but not dailys (they are not casual by the way).
A big problem with the story events is that story and character development is time locked with no way for new players to replay it.
I think that’s to put somewhat a fear of missing out. It makes players consume the content when there it is still hype. Otherwise, players would just not mind it knowing they can play it later til they would only play it for the rewards since there’s not that much excitement anymore.
They probably will at some point.
In Honkai Impact, we went for 3 and a half years without any event rerun, then after the 4th aniversary, they started to rerun some of the most popular events
Its kinda neat that the main story line, considers if you met a character in a limited event or not....
Just go to youtube..
Also if you want them to keep those event stories then they have to drop mobile players because their phones would explode with that much content
Most of the events are like filler in anime. It's not integral to the MSQ. Mihoyo has included some exciting events, but I would mostly tell players to do the events for the weapons, gems, and crowns. I often just blast through the dialogue on the last day because there is a lot, and I don't have the time to sit through it (the MSQ takes enough time as is).
Early complaints were that the game didn't have enough content. Now there is so much that it's hard to stay caught up if you even remotely have a life.
Oh man, I can stress this enough. I love the new format of Necrit's videos. Good balance in jokes, content, actually useful and interesting info, and memes.
i agree i agree i agreee
If he gets into the honkai impact (Or star rail) story he's set for content for freaking years to come
With all the plot holes and retcons in hi3 I doubt he will enjoy it
@@RaE7Vx Or just how mind-bending some of it can be.
Looking at you, Su.
@@RaE7Vx hes a lore enjoyer and as an lore enjoyer myself id say he got hooked to genshin, he got hooked to star rail and in prety sure he will get hooked to honkai impact simply becouse that game has the lore that conects it all
I dont know, i dont think the gameplay is interresting enought for him. As he said. it doesnt matter if you have the best story, if the gameplay dont follow, he s not going to stick with it
@@RaE7Vx I mean... LoL has a LOT of retcons and plot holes, so I don't think that's going to be a big problem
That Fungus event was an RTS, not an auto battle. Since you can command each of them to move to where you want, attack the target you want and use abilities.
I miss the tower defence game mode tho... wish we could have like 3 optional levels that rotate or smth of some of the old game modes.
its an rts with poor controls x.x
It would be more fun had they nerfed Bongo-head. Its healing is way to powerful
@@x0x0niks the control worked fine for me, just lacking in features, like selecting more than one fungi at a time.
@@thienphucn1 Remember, it's a very casual game. I don't think these mini games are supposed to be hard at all. I would like it that way though.
Necrit, I'm sorry that you have missed out the best story from Albedo's limited events that happened in 2020 (The Chalk Prince and the Dragon) and 2021 (Shadows Amidst Snowstorms).
it's crazy how much lore were in these temporary events
These events manifested Albedo in my Top5 characters of the entire game even tho I haven't been interested in him at all before. They should have made these events into one of Albedos' key story quests, but I assume they didn't because they had actual important plot progression for the overarching lore that shall not be overlooked as a characters side story. (So instead it's overlooked cause its not playable at all lol). They rly need to bring some of these events back as an optional replay.
@@ymi8238 they didn't give us lore about albedo in he's story quest only important thing he said was "if I lose control destroy monstad would you be here to stop me" but those limited events OMFG they're the reason I get albedo his va is so good his personality is kinda nice and he has probably biggest lore in monstad
Every event is so mid compared to the albedo events, genshin fell off fr
But albedo quest reruns is from the start we go to met albedo in dragonspine, just wait for the third reruns im sure necrit will enjoy albedo strory quest from the first version
I love Genshin's event structure with 1 small caveat. Quite a few important story events were just temporary 2-week events that no longer exist. Anyone who hasn't played Genshin since release will be confused when you meet a new character and Paimon just goes "Oh it's this guy again" while you have no clue who it is because you only met them in an event.
I'd say that's my biggest complaint with Genshin in general. Artifact farming can be incredibly painful, grinding materials can eat up days worth of time if you let it, and the gacha system will sometimes make you question all your life choices, but what's definitely the most disappointing is when they release a story fit for a short novel and then it's gone forever after 2 weeks.
Yep, by far the best example is, meeting Scaramouche in 1.1 and then he dips for over a year, until ppl actually meet him in Inazuma and Sumeru properly lol.
well, thing is they DO have special dialogue for people who have and haven't seen those. Scaramouche has two different introductions based on if you did the 1.1 event or not.
THIS. A good chunk of Eula's character growth WERE in events(one that comes to mind was the Fakebedo one). I would still dislike her if I had to have only her character story as a basis, and not played the events(nowadays I quite like her). Not to mention Albedo himself, having quite a chunk of his origins hidden behind events.
Hell, I'm pissed that we can't have the Kaeya letter that revealed that he is from a regent family from Khaenriah.
I've heard the developers do consider this an issue, and there's reason to think they've been careful enough with their codebase that at least on their side the events aren't lost forever or incompatible with the current version of the game. That said, I expect working out a way to replay events is near the bottom of their very long to-do list. It is, however, probably on the list - which is rare for a gacha game.
There's also the fact that we get new music quite regularly, and when the music is god tier, that is HUGE.
So glad you enjoy genshin and make content for it. Youre really good at explaining story beats and game design
id kill to get some Genshin lore videos. i kept up with the story for the most part but there is a LOT or written aspects that i nvr paid attention to
Have you watched any actual lore archons of genshin?
this game have always had multiple genshin lore youtubers, you don't necessarily have to limit your options to just necrit's, if that's what you meant by this comment, lmao
some of ashikais beginners guide to lore vids are really helpful if youre looking for a crash course
I know Mihoyo isnt a perfect company and they have flaws, but I feel like the community doesn't give them enough credit. I love Genshin Impact, its nice and relaxing to play, and can be engaging when you want it to be. They listen to players feedback and always try to make the game fun and interactive.
When we complained about how annoying Crystalflies were, they added and even gave a free 4 star character with the ability to help us farm them. They added Hangout events to get to know more about certain characters (Still waiting on a Kujou Sara and Xinyan Hangout event). They made artifact farming a bit less painful (And I mean a little bit) by allowing us to swap out five star artifacts with the ones we want and doing the same for weekly bosses and regular bosses material.
Again, the game has flaws (Still hoping for the Dehya buffs), but I will definitely keep playing the game with how things are going. Can't wait for ZZZ (Zenless Zone Zero) to come out and I will probably no life Honkai star rail as well. Also, I'm happy that I'm not the only one who disliked Inazuma's story lol
Yeah people take for granted how much hoyoverse changed the mobile gaming/gacha landscape to make the experiences more immersive and more video game less just gambling.
Also I always see forgetting how when a repeat game mode comes back it comes back with changes suggest from the last round of it. It's neat that they try to improve their little mini games as well
Preach brother.
@@exo_eve7575 why wouldnt you take it for granted? the shit they do for money i still very corporate-esque. yes the thing underneath may be pretty sweet but anything else?
@@Exel3nce after playing through star rail, I have to say that the players give them far enough credit. If not too much credit. Literally, the majority of what players want in genshin is in star rail. It just proves that genshin is just simply a cash cow for Hoyoverse and not a passion project like star rail is. The story of star rail, the characters, the writing in general, is just far better than genshin's. Even the character's personalitys are better. And it feels nice to know that not everyone you meet is immediately your friend or won't ever be your friend. And it's nice that the story is far more adulterated than genshin's but still has far better comedy than genshin. Honkai star rail shows Hoyoverse's true passion. While genshin shows what they can do at a bare minimum. And yes saying bare minimum seems ve y outlandish considering the world and a lot of other aspects but I'm not basing it off that. I'm basing it off how well the story, characters, and systems are compared to genshin.
Since the topic is genshin updates, I believe the most underappreciated updates of genshin are not the mini events, new stories and regions or the spiral abyss. The most underappreciated updates are the updates to the Genious Invocation TCG. Yes genshin has it's own card game in the game, similar to how the Witcher had gwent in it. However while you might argue that every other update in the game is in some way connected to the main income of the game - pulling and building characters - be it because they're meta in combat, you like their gameplay or you like their design and personality in the story or simply because you spent all your free resources that you got trough the events and decide to put in some money. The card game is not only free like everything else in the game, it doesn't let you pay for it in any way. Even if you wanted to pay for it you can't. All cards are aquired by just playing the card game itself either earning them trough combat or buying them with card game currency that is gathered only by playing. And the most interesting part of this all is that genshin characters don't get balance updates. If a character is weak the only way that they can be buffed is if another character is introduced that has good synergy with them and so they become better. In the card game however there are actual balance patches to the cards. There are damage tweaks, cost changes etc. The card game isn't even that much of a popular game-mode in game. Don't get me wrong it's not bad, it's actually one of the most unique card-games i've played but setting aside the 4 weekly PvE battles, every other PvE battle only gives you rewards once and there's really no reason to replay them, other than to try and beat them with another deck. The PvP is very fun but as genshin is a casual game, it has no rank or rewards to playing PvP. It's just for fun. So most people play trough the PvE, play a few matches of PvP here and there when they feel like it but it's far from the most played game-mode. However hoyo not only constantly update it, with every monthly patch we get a few new cards and sometimes balance changes, they also reference it very often in the story quests and events. The existance of this card game, from which they actively refuse to charge any sort of money for, which they constantly update and reference just tells of how passionate the developers are about their game and how much they care about it. This is something I've genuinely not seen in a video game in a long time and never seen to this extent. Again hoyoverse has my full respect for their passion and love for their game.
if they get less predatory, they will get more respect but oh well, better suck them money
Play legends of runeterra instead
1 year later..... Its crazy how they are still giving updates to TCG, There is a dedicated channel to GITCG because the core players of GI dont like that TCG exist in the game or any news related to it, so they release updates on a different channel but still they release updates for the few % players that play it.
They know how to get and keep people excited. There's always something happening, and new things being added or teased.
Yet half their shit is 10x more expensive than league while having less worth for their price. Literally spending 100 dollars doesn’t even guarantee you the character you want…
@@rayinchrist1 Just don't spend. You don't have to anyway.
@@rayinchrist1 genshin does not offer you the oppurtunity to have all the characters you love. You must love, have passion, admire, be patient, save and pray. Gacha does not work by saying "ohh, she is cool, i pull her". Getting a characters needs a long journey between you and that character, not just wanting.
That's not entirely true, during all updates there are a lot of times when nothing happens, and some moments when theoretically if something is happening, it's usually mediocre content like, take a picture of something, get double rewards of something you do every day, or simply give a flower or some nonsense to a random npc, a large part of the community constantly complains about the game situation, and many others, although they do not actively complain, do things only for rewards (they leave the game when they realize it doesn't make sense) what keeps the game alive is content that happens outside of it, like cosplays, animations and fanarts etc.
@@inarikitsune262 And then you have people like me. Being constantly entertained by the game like the original commenter mentioned and being frustrated with all the spoiled Genshin players complaining about the constant stream of content not being good enough.
"You can just log out after 15mins"
600 hours played.
Hoyoverse has always focused in creating stories through their games , they have done so since Houkai Gakuen 2, which is 9 years old and still gets story updates. They mentioned this in their recent documentary of Honkai Impact 3rd that the importance of story is the reason they've succeeded in the gaming market. At one point their game Honkai Impact 3rd had lost half the users and they decided to take a gamble and that's when "Will of the Herrscher" came out, a short animation with its own song depicting a major story shift in Honkai. A few months later they released "Final Lesson" which is one of the most emotionally packed story moment in mobile and gacha gaming, chapter 9 Final Lesson has sort of become a rite of passage in the community because of how impactful it is to the story and it encapsulates Hoyoverses story writing on how they do story.
The chapter 9 is also rite of passage because you are forced to play the worst and cluncliest character: Himeko, and only get to use her good suit before the and. There had been so many people whos interest in honkai had been killed because of himekos clunkiness.
@@michapiasta3072 lol, she's not clunky at all, you just have to press the attack button when she glows
@@zyroberk Its not her timing gimmick thats clunky, but her atacks, she just atacks way to slow.
I do think League could incorporate throw-away games modes (or recyclable ones); were still missing that 3v3v3v3.
Personally, I wouldn't mind a team death match revolving around the Noxian Arenas (no items, only champions). Or perhaps a capture point game mode involving Ionia or The Freljord.
So many potential options...
Capture point game mode? You mean Dominion? It's been ages.
I've followed you since I was hooked on League Lore and your explanations were engaging for me! However, I stopped playing League because ranked was just too toxic, so I just played Genshin. When you started doing Genshin content, it was just the best thing because you've already become one my favorite content creators! I really like the path you're going to, and I'll keep supporting you all the way! Looking forward to what you'll cover in the future :)
Genshin could've been amazing, but for people who actually care about gameplay, this game game has been a letdown. They actively try to put bs mechanics in the game, don't give a fff about player feedback, and even saying end game = anxiety but constantly puts out time gated/limited events.
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Hoyo basically follows masterclass on how to make profit in life service game in terms of game play. Basically make every player have "same" chances in game, except if the player spend money. Avoid gameplay that depend heavily on player's skill.
There's so many combat techniques and fun glitches that got patched already. I'm still bitter for the fact that mihoyo patched TCF tech way too soon..lol
Oh. Finally someone who understands the core of genshin. This is rare.
I'm not a veteran player, I started out a year ago but I did watch ppl play Genshin since day one. I agree that Genshin has a good formula for giving out contents. Essentially Genshin is a casual game. Casual Mobile Gacha to be precise. You can enjoy the story, the gameplay or even try-hard on Abyss. But it's not a game to be speed-ran or play 20hours a day kind of game.
Also the events. I for one am very grateful and find it fun. Something small and new adding up every week/2 weeks. On top of that getting in-game rewards for it.
But maybe I'm enjoying it more bcs I don't particularly care about Abyss or just any big-pp-number meta stuff. Even if my artifacts aren't the best, I still can clear everything in the overworld.
I'm a veteran player, I do the story in 3 days, do a whole event in 1 day, do commissions, spend resin, and then I log of. This gets kinda repetitive after 3 years. Genshin gets really boring when you repeat the same thing hundreds of times. Genshin also doesn't care about people that want to play for more than 15 minutes a day.
Genshin doesn't add difficult game modes ,not just abyss DPS check, but game modes where you have to dodge, because abyss causes too much anxiety. They induce anxiety by adding a timer and then they say that adding for example: a endless mode would cause too much anxiety.
The gamemodes are usually just worse versions of others games you could've downloaded, if genshin was 11gb. Why play tcg, if I can play Lor?
This is just my opinion though, so maybe I'm just not the target audience.
@@charmelos1431 I’m a veteran player as well, day 1. I complete everything I need to do in around 10 minutes -events, it’s very convenient because I don’t have a lot of time, so I want to spend time on other games too, like league, rocket league, upcoming solo games, (waiting for Zelda totk currently).
I’m really glad that it can be completed so fast, because I can farm all the primos available, and when a new update with a new region drops I have tons of resources to enjoy the game while pulling for new characters.
I don’t find it particularly fun to do the 10 min daily, but I don’t really find it boring either. It’s basically a routine. I put on arknights autoplay in the background, pull up a yt video, and go through it without much thought. But when a new region drops I free my schedule and then I can spend 8+ hours every day for a couple of days, then repeat until the next region drop.
@@oh-noe yeah I'm so confuse why Genshin 'try-hards' keep doing this to themselves? Don't they have a job, a life or other games to plays?
that line where Necrit said, " but we haven't seen a new story for this universe since oct last year" sadly true, as a lore content creator from PH... Yone's release was the best for me cause Ruined King turned to be... idk.. looking for more Lore Champs Riot Games!
Early Genshin was a struggle to be sure, but ever since 3.0 with Sumeru it easily became one of my favourite games of recent time. From a day 1 players perspective Inazuma left me exhausted and made me take a break for a few months, yet when the trailer for 3.0 came out it hooked me right back in. Something that league has struggled to do since the announcement of Viego. And we all know how that ended...
😢 that why lol is slowly lost player like dota. To much on competitive but inore casual player who only play for fun
I cant exactly put into words what's so good about sumeru but man I love it so much
@@arkeus5246 for me its that it feel like it could be its own game in a series of games, Sumeru made itself stand out with an amazing story and characters much more than Taxzuma did. Part of the reason for example why people were so mad at the whole Dehya issue isn't because shes just a waifu bait but because they made a liked character bad
I being crushed by Inazuma story pacing, still cant bring myself to actually play game. Maybe as i finish with star rail i'll bring myself to play it again
@@jidojagaming9986 not to mention some pro players dont even play league anymore besides the required games the team demands from them (look at wunder). Moreover some of them dont have fun anymore and only treat it as a job. Theres also a lot of those who just take the paycheck and arent even competetive not to mention lack of ambitions which is just disgusting. I think riot abandoning casual play took a part in all of these examples
as person who played genshin since 1.1 and didn't make break for more than a week (so didn't miss any events) i can say that sometimes it feels overwhelming trying to catch up because sometimes life is too busy and exhausting but when you play casually and just relax it always a blast to play the game. Genshin really built for casual, not fast pacing gameplay (especially with the lore because hell i need sometimes too much effort for my small brain to connect all dots). And it's really feels frustrating when players whine for no new content or that genshin is too casual (which in some way - fair. you have not much places to face a challenge except for abyss or when tryhard for platina medal in combat event) but i think if game would be different - i wouldn't play this for so long. i enjoy playing and exploring the world playing with a lot of different comps and playing different mini-games as it is and having more features in exploring and world quests are more valuable for me than hardcore gameplay (such thing made me drop another game which i enjoyed but the wall of extreme pay to win is too much).
anyway i'm really happy to see you enjoy the game and it's lore! I'm not going to jump into star rail (i have not much time for so many ongoing games) and will be happy to explore through you!
Said everything I had in mind! Genshin being a casual game while extremely interesting and fun. Makes me continue to enjoy gaming so much in my busy stage of life.
@@ivananyaegbu6824 true! sometimes only genshin can bring some kind of peacefulness in mind when everything around is so hectic
for real ! imo some people can really underrate the peaceful of the game and how they constantly giving us new stuffs to try even tho not all of them are gud =]]
I know it may be a surprising thing to say, but you know, you don't have to complete every single content in the game and just let people who want any kind of challenge have fun.
@@agrix7436 Well yeah, sure, i have nothing against it. I just said my thoughts and go more for my preferences. Personally i saw a lot of complains from one perspective (tryharders, challengers etc) and i even said that their complains fair too i just can't relate much to this opinions because i'm playing another way so i pointed at it. Even if i do time at time some silly or hardcore challenges, just well - not what i seek in _this_ game on constant basic. And generally it's not my buisness to tell how other people should or shouldn't play or have fun. I just express my preferences and thoughts which was inspired by Necrit's opinion, that's all.
It's been awesome to see Necrit and Zepla trying Genshin and Star Rail out and enjoying both games. Genshin's 6 week content cycle is great. Does anyone remember WoD's content drought and the infamous selfie patch? Oh man... It took 434 days from the last patch to Legion.
These games are not meant to be played 24/7, but they're great for people who don't have as much time for games and don't have many hours after work when they get home. Even if you do complete all the content, then you can just take a break, play other games, and come back whenever there's more content for you.
Feel refreshing to hear that out loud. The community talk a lot about the negative, but I always had a positive outlook on the game and having someone else saying it kinda confirmed what deep inside I always knew but let the internet spoild for me
The negative is more important. Do you hate genshin not to even care?
@@yomoheiliv6375 Genshin is a hobby I don't mind speaking of the negative every once in a while but not been able to go on any sm without seeing it get old
Love to see Genshin content here! you are the reason I played this game. Hope to see more Genshin videos in the future!
Star rail is real fun although most people don't like turn base but I think hoyoverse executed the idea real well by making a turn base game into a half open world too its like genshin, but if it is in the stars and the combat is turn based very good I would recommend you to try it out
Aren't most JRPGs open world tho?
@@stumpedtroper jrpg isn't that just mostly chatting and dating Sims? Tbh I have never played any of jrpg
Veteran players don't like a lot of the events because a lot of them are still just grindy. If you've been grinding artifacts non-stop for years, many of the events can feel dull.
No they Just boring and half of them are copy paste
@@ziebus904 That too
reasons why genshin events are not as appreciated
1.they repeat themselves, sometimes its literal copy paste from last one with so little interaction, incentive to do more than abre minimum and the better designed ones still give few interaction points
2. they downgrade, tower defense game mode was good, then got worse, then they made mushroom version and was not as interesting to the original one
3. the coop for most of these is bad, clunky or useless, very few of these have current coop options, itou beetle event could have had 7 recolors, 7 stickers and the sizes to allow players customize and pvp between them
4. the biggest one, people get left out often, "you werent playing in version 1? good luck seeing the first mona and albedo events with huge lore chunks tied to them" since they dont rerun
5. archive saves story, but event story? even a recap? nope
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Its now 78 days since Necrit got me addicted to Genshin Impact. I'm going to crown my first skill this weekend- Ive also come to realize Kuki is a top 5 waifu. I can do floor 12 of Spiral Abyss but I cant get stars from it yet. Sometimes I feel a little regret not starting years ago but I'm content to not be thirsting for new content. Genshin is life now.
KUKI HAS A TOP TIER CHARACTER DESIGN.
im glad you weren't there when she was considered trash because dendro didnt happen. Im glad i built her solely because i loved her as waifu!
@@sakiamira The hoodie over dolphin shorts
Koki is one of the best use for aggrivate reaction with dendro plus a healer also free rare 3* weapon is the best for her.
@@leolyrics4958 The black Iron Sword? Thats what I went with. The Iron Sting is a bit better but Black Iron looks really good on her and is cheap to upgrade
@@sQrLLZ best slot to her because of the passive of the weapon.
4:57 to answer this question, YES. It's basically the essence of a gacha game to have regular updates introducing new characters and some story. Literally every gacha game does this
cant wait for him to go in-depth into the lore the way he does for his league vids! I have listened to his lore videos and some of my knowledge of league lore comes from him. I know there are other genshin lore CCs but as someone who knows the caliber of this man and his videos, I look forward when he really starts analysing the lore :D
I tried genshin because of you (I didn’t watch your video but I trust your opinion) and you were right, a masterpiece. I’m confused why some genshin players say “we hate it but we play it”, how coukd you say you hate a game with a good ost, good story, good gameplay, good exploration, and the gacha system works in a way that keeps players from getting everything from first day, and thus they can have fun for longer time and enjoy more when they do unlock things.
There’s really a small amount of things to complain about. The passion of everyone involved and they talent shines through every side of Genshin and as someone that has played videogames his whole life and I have my own game idea that want to develop in the future; I’ll say this again; this game is a masterpiece.
Yes. A very predatory masterpiece... But could it even then be considered a masterpiece?
@@Swagbastian tbf genshin is the least predatory gacha game that I have ever seen
Those who say that are from the toxic or "mass consuming" part of this community.
@@Swagbastian not in the slightest
The game actively encourages taking your time, the characters themselves tell you to enjoy the road (like fr they always do 💀)
They encourage you to buy the pass, which doesn’t just give you the rewards in one sitting, but daily gives you an amount during the month (which means they encourage you to spend once or twice monthly and that’s it).
The game is by no meaning pushing meta, pushing hours of gameplay, nor pushing thousands of spendings, like Necrit said in this video, people decide by their own hand to spend money.
You can totally get all you want by being free to play and managing your resources smartly.
Not even close to being a masterpiece imo, but okay.
All those events are short lived.
Yes the content itself is fine. But it wouldn't be needed if the game had a working game-loop/endcontent.
Daily logins force you to play every day without anything to do every day. This breaks people. On some days you have events and those days are fine, but the next day the event is over and all content left is pulling the gacha machine (the only think which is not time gated).
This is a perfect maniplulation tactic.
Solution: Dayly logins need to be forbidden, weeklys are fine but not dailys.
I like that you mentioned the variety of the events but also chuckle a little because in Genshin's predecessor, Honkai Impact 3rd, we've had an even more insane amount of games within games for events and even just material farming. Everything from 2d platformers to top-down shoot-em-ups to pokemon with DNA splicing to open world metroidvania-style vertical slices to literally fall guys.
Gacha games really do pump out an insane amount of content, most of which ends up being good! More folks need to get over their "game bad cause gacha" attitudes and embrace the good in these properties without endorsing the bad.
And yet most of the genshin playerbase on Reddit keep asking for same combat content and complain when hoyoverse introduce unique events and gameplay that's out of the normal gameplay. Some of them are hit and miss but I appreciate the variety.
Indeed, let's not forget how often Honkai has 4 or more events going at once, while still having the daily and weekly missions (Abyss, ER, MA and open world) active. It can be a time-sink if you don't have self-control tbh.
Im a league enjoyer and an ar 60 genshin enjoyer, cool thing to see im not alone with this combo xD
Me being both in Genshin since it started and League just as it was crashing, I kinda know how both games feel rn. I started league apx when neeko came out. When snow rift was still a thing and spirit blossom made it's mark. After that only skins and competitive play was the main focus. While Genshin had a big boom of new players and updated all the time. I also played genshin a bit too much at some point and figured out how it doesn't pay off to complete everything, so now i'm a totaly casual player and just wait for the story events and come online ever so often, while playing league with friend groups. One is for playing with friends while the other for single player relaxation.
Now that you're on your Gacha Game arc, it'd be very neat if you got into the Project Moon universe through Limbus Company... (and then played the other two games, Lobotomy Corporation and Library of Ruina, and read all the side media, etc)
Me: I love Genshin
Also me after a month of not getting a single good artifact: I love Genshin
I just don't bother with artifacts anymore. It doesn't matter for the most part besides abbys and bp also it's not why I played the game anyway.
@@smug_slime Yep, I've been sitting on my 60/120 Artifacts, and not to mention all the supports and just enjoyed the game slowly every 1-2 patch cycle. There's almost always enough to do once patches comes.
me after spending 11k resin for wanderer: i love genshin
Some things cant be expressed through words.
I stopped arti farming months ago. I’ve done almost only golden fart clouds now and I’m currently at 83m mora. Going for 100m
i am a genshin streamer that hhave been watching your videos for a long time so its so nice seeing my two worlds come together lol
I hope you will cover genshin lore cause i cant find a good place to look into it and i loved your lore videos in the past
As a casual Genshin player since beginning , I totally agreed to your analysis. Hope you do a Genshin lore video.
I find it so funny how League prioritizes veterans over casuals and new players while genshin is doing the opposite.
The reason most veteran players hate genshin is that they got nothing to do aside from mindlessly farming artifacts and waiting for Abyss to reset. Nothing else really... The events got really stale after almost 3 years
Yeah I wish they make a monthly boss that took hour and a lot preparation to beat similar to raid in wow.
You'd think that until you remember that the new players have to go through 4 regions to level up some of the new characters.
I really didn't think about it until I introduced some people to the game and got the complain that they can't get the Inazuma resources because the place isn't unlocked for them yet.
And yet genshin make a tom more then lol
@@grayarystorjz53 ¾ of character are nearly useless in coop. And making that kind of boss would make game p2w becouse you would need special teams or synergy
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Shadow Amidst Snowstorms event was one of their absolute best events and i will stand by that until they bring it back.
To spoil it (because most who have started now will never get the chance to play it, although i recommend looking up the cutscenes online!), it's an event centered around Albedo. And despite watching the cutscenes MANY times, I apologize if some events aren't in the exact order!
Albedo has been behaving strangely. From the polite and stoic attitude that he usually presents, where he's both trying to adjust to having people around and considering them as friends (since he mostly lived away from civilization for many years), he suddenly behaves... very differently. One of the first hints we get is that he did not stop to greet the traveler, and he behaved quite rudely to Timaeus, one of his colleagues and subordonates (he is the Chief Alchemist of the Knights of Favonius). When he does return to talk to the traveler, he behaves smugly and a little bit sassy. Now Albedo does have some sass with his wording, but this felt... very different. He felt erratic.
The original feeling of the first encounter with Albedo during this event is that he is... hiding something. Something about this day made him change quite drastically. We decide to go look for him at his usual spot in Dragonspine after we talk to Sucrose and Timaeus.
On the way there, the Adventure Guild is organizing an event to train new recruits and they ask us for help. Eula and Amber join us, but we quickly part ways as we decide to try and meet with Albedo first, especially because this child, Joel, approaches us to find his father and we think Albedo would be able to help us.
As we walk towards Albedo's cave in Dragonspine, we get attacked but we're quickly saved by Albedo and we start walking to his cave. On the way there, we discuss about learning how to paint and he describes using a special kind of starsilver to make the paint glittery, and in this case... he behaves normally, like nothing happened. But when we arrive to the cave, we discover everything is ravaged. Alchemical blueprints are missing, which means that a thief must've stolen them. Albedo seems... thoughtful about it, like there's something he isn't telling us. But we embark on our way to discover the thief.
On the way, an avalanche happens that sends us far off the cliff to another place in Dragonspine, we decide to part ways as Albedo wants to make sure this wasn't caused by the thief. He tells us to stay right where we are and wait for him, as Dragonspine is very dangerous. We quickly get bored and Paimon suggests we start looking for high quality starsilver for Albedo to turn to paint. Albedo returns and asks us what we are doing, and we tell him we found some starsilver for him to use. Right then is when we notice one important detail about him is missing...
Usually, Albedo bears a gold star shaped symbol on his neck, almost like a tattoo, but in this case it's missing. Us (the traveler) take notice of this but don't mention anything about it. And it feels like Albedo suddenly doesn't remember our conversations, about the paint or the thief.
And then we hear Bennett call out for help and we decide to go rescue him. Interestingly enough, Albedo doesn't join us.
During the event you have the option to go save Bennett right away, or... take a couple of steps backwards and explore a cave in the nearby area. When I did the event, I did that first. What we discover there is an alchemy table that's fallen over, a chest and some gemstones used for Alchemy. We don't have a lot to go off of, but we figure this must be the thief's lair.
We go rescue Bennett and then meet up with Albedo again, and then with Amber and Eula and we decide to return to Albedo's cave to rest. There we learn that Albedo can procure pretty much any object as long as he has the blueprint for it. Once again Albedo behaves normally, he's friendly to everyone and really seems to warm up to people.
After we rest, we decide to go back to the camp outside of Dragonspine where the Adventure Guild is, but on the way we're hit with ANOTHER avalanche, this time a much more dangerous one. Us, Eula and Amber manage to avoid it, but Bennett falls and Albedo jumps to save him. We go down to try and find them and we only encounter Bennett, him telling us that despite Albedo saving him, the Alchemist quickly disappeared soon after.
We decide to continue onwards towards the camp despite being lost, and what do you know, we encounter Albedo on the way! But this one is ALSO different! He's not calm or collected and he's easily distracted, compared to when we talked to him the four previous times. He's also missing the star, which the traveler quickly notices.
This "Albedo" ends up taking us the complete wrong direction and soon we find ourselves in a trap. One of the coolest battle cutscenes plays (please PLEASE find it online and watch it) and before this "Albedo" does anything worse, the real Albedo appears and stabs the "Albedo" in the back then tells us to get away. The "Albedo" turns into a giant Whopperflower and we fight it (it's also the boss of the event and it was super fun to fight against, especially in co-op.)
We win against it and return to the camp safely this time, and Albedo explains to us, after we return to his cave, that this whopperflower wanted so badly to know what it's like to be loved by humans, that he was trying to replace him. But... he still seems to be withholding information, which we notice even in our dialogue options. Still, we don't press any further and decide to just believe Albedo.
At the very end, he seems to be talking to someone else, talking about how after being discarded for being a faulty prototype, he was searching to replace him, and Albedo summons his sword and the camera angle changes to view Albedo from above... with another Albedo looking down at him.
We don't get to see the two of them fight it off, but we assume the other Albedo is also killed. Or... is he?
Some fun facts:
- this Albedo is often referred in the fandom as Rubedo, but he does have an actual name! In the game files, people have found that the name of the model is Dorian, in reference to The Picture of Dorian Gray, and I personally only really refer to him as Dorian.
- the thief's cave, which is easy to figure out that it's Dorian's cave, is the ONLY area from an event that remains permanently in the world post-event. There are many other events that introduce new areas, but they're all temporary besides the cave in Dragonspine. You can go visit it, it's in the Entombed City Outskirts, above the lake, you'll see a Cryo Cicin mage in front of it.
- Dorian created the whopperflower Albedo! As to why, it's still unclear, but I really hope we revisit this storyline. (It's been 500+ long... long days....)
- remember how in the beginning this kid asks us to find his father? Well, it's an actual quest you can still do in game, and, spoilers, you do find his father but with no memories. Many assume that it's Dorian that shapeshifted into him to start being among humans, but I personally think that Dorian instead experimented on him to create the whopperflower version of himself/Albedo, since it doesn't really seem like Dorian has any actual shapeshifting abilities and that Dorian and Albedo are supposed to look either really similar or the exact same (given Dorian is the prototype, so Albedo is based on his appearance rather than Dorian being based on Albedo's)
- some people assume we saw Dorian in the recent Windblume event (2023) as he was, once again, behaving a little weird, but who knows!
If you want to discuss more about this event, let's become mutuals on Twitter! You can find me at showsiick, I usually just post my art there but my DMs are open always.
I really love your analysis videos, and I enjoy them a lot! Can't wait for you to review honkai star rail next, especially its story.
Also genshin makes exceptional husbandos think back before the 2020 the I couldn't think any husbando before genshin aside from the child crush with Cloud from FF
Cant wait for your star rail content!
Most live service games ive played in my life simply do not do try with different game modes, maybe besides fornite with their in game concerts and stuff like that. I don't need a major game mode like the tcg every patch, i do enjoy the small things, like going around iconic places in mondstad and taking a picture, or a small auto battler with fungi. It is that simple tho, casual gaming is just amazing. I wish more companies would realize that.
Hearing about this model in Genshin sort of reminds me of Warframe. From when I started playing it until a friend told me "hey there's this cool looking game we should play", things were already different. Then we stopped playing for a while and when we came back, sure a couple of Warframes were added that were the typical "farm parts to get", but also a new special one that required your 'frame to become infected, let the infection grow, and treat it in a new part of your spaceship that was previously unaccessible. Then we didn't play for a while and BAM Archwings, special suits designed for a new kind of maps, with their own weapons. And then BAM a special space ship you can build with friends that allows you to have one friend piloting while the rest move around it. Then BAM Plaines of Eidolon, a complete Open-World map with a bunch of stuff to do. And just recently I saw about a new update that adds a new "playeable character" that's not a 'frame, with a whole new story, gameplay elements, weapons and what not.
And to top it off, it's one of THE best communitties in gaming I've ever found. Even in PvP I haven't found a single toxic player, in fact I met someone who was destroying me, asked him what 'frame was he using, and he added me to HELP ME FARM FOR IT.
I like warframe I just don't like the grind
For every new content they release it's a new thing yes but also a new grinding
Here's a wing so you can fly but oh here's the game mode to farm the upgrade and your Main weapon is unusable
Here's open world where you can be free from small corridor but oh here's their own reputation point system/map boss
New crew ship > new farm
Character in you warframe > New exp grind
I like the old time where you grinding for 1 thing but you also got material for other things
Alot of people shit on genshin for being anime game and not having endgame(cuz its caters casuals mostly) but its honestly kinda insane how for a live service game they keep releasing new areas every 2-3 patch with top tier music. Not to mention the lore progressively getting better when devs were criticized during Inazuma
Its honestly hard to do something as garbage as inazuma so...
Genshin is a gacha.
It needs endgame content.
If you don't agree, then you hate genshin.
"I missed out on Genshin, I don't want that to happen again"
Same dude, same. I played Genshin and managed to stay on top of it until the Albedo event with the Frost zone came out. After that, I just didn't see how I could catch up. Time to hop on the Star Rail and try not to fall off for as long as I can : )
The thought of a Rogue-like cooperative mode in league made me cry energy cristals :'c I miss Spiral Knights
I was among those who didn't care much for Fungi Mechanicus (the auto-battler), but it was really just because I love Theater Mechanicus and was disappointed that FM wasn't a new evolution of it lol
Necrit was right,the hate really comes from around the community and not from within
No its not. I'm part of the community and i realy love/hate genshin.
And its made by design. The forced DAILY LOGINS combined with ONLY 15min playtime is the real problem! It's a designed conflict which will annoy many players after the honyemoon phase. Some can adapt to it, but most break. Again its a problem by design to force you to either quit, spend money or stay bored.
Remove the forced daily logins and the conflict is gone. Weekly or monthy logins are fine. This would allow us to take a break. Casuals should be annoyed by this as well. Daily logins are not chilling. Even at work we get free days and weekends. In my opinion daily logins should be forbidden by law.
This conflict will not vanish until they EITHER: "remove dailys" or give us a "game-loop/endcontent".
@@sofieberger8851 hmm instead of forced, rather , Hoyo utilize the FOMO aspects of daily login and resin cap. Especially on f2p players. Personally, I don't really have a problem w missing out on dailies or events or resins, that's up to per individual.
I agree on more activities tho, either make resin cap higher , since there's so many domain addition now and more character released, or make a looping combat mode, or maybe a map reset every now and then since after 100% map exploration, there's really no incentive to hang around.
@@sofieberger8851 you wont get that "endgame" its not gonna happen, just move on. I play overwatch only once a week because the balance is dogshit. Its not hard. Just move on or play less.
@@mangshu21 thank you for your recommendation. Yes i should do what you say ... but i can't. I'm to addicted, without a similiar game (withering waves/blue protocol lets pray) i can't move on.
At least i know i'm addicted ... its somehow strange to see youtuber and other people going through similiar phases with this game (addiction/love/hate). Its crazy.
@@sofieberger8851bro most gacha games has the daily login system and who cares if you don't do it? It's only 60 gems. Also instead of complaining that genshin has "no repayable content" how about you focus that energy on criticizing hsr being dryer than the Sahara desert. It's always genshin but never hsr.
Genshin was my first gacha and I honestly downloaded it as a joke and figured it would be terrible. 1300 hours later I can proudly say that I have absolutely fallen in love with it. Kayea is my favorite character and all I can say is that it is an experience like no other game in my opinion, even if its very casual. Awsome video dude ❤️
I didn't know that you are playing genshin and I'm amazed. That will be great to see more grnshin related videos from you. You're just making great videos no metter what game it is.
Your right, we vets got so numb with the gamemodes we just do them for the primos and get out XD
I love Genshin Impact, but I'm seriously enjoying Star Rail right now while waiting for new Genshin content (I kind of blow through new achievements/events/regions really quick to primo farm). I seriously think you'll enjoy the new game too!
he's streaming it, and he's really loving it btw on his twitch!
Yone went from some cool introduction & continuation to the Yasuo lore, to being forgotten right after he's released.
Now Ahri is holding that flag.
Necrit, man, it is Heaven's Bless that you don't know about the Honkai Impact 3rd. A game that adds a NEW MINIGAME IN every 3-6 weeks, from a dice poker club (collect right dices for attack) and plants against zombies (absolut copy) to a fancy auto-battler and a tetris puzzle (collect blocks in a limited area in combination to strengthen your valkyries in battle).
Happy You )
PS: Genshin have better story, but Honkai Impact 3rd have story about personality growth. And Golden Courtyard... one of the best stories ever.
A-and, all Hoyoverse games in one Multiverse. Live with it, Loremaster )
As someone who played Genshin for awhile, its a fun game, I quit cause like Necrit said, I tried hard and sped up the game. I loved the story and that was the biggest reason I stayed. But eventually I hit a point in the game where I was caught up with story, all I did was log in to do dailies and log out, it was a feeling that I got on the game to do a chore (dailies) and the fun wasn't there. So for those who are thinking of going back to Genshin, or want to play it. Do it! its a fun game nonetheless, just play at a pace that suites you, cause if you rush yourself ahead of what you need like I did, you can find yourself getting pretty burnt out really quick. That and the biggest issue with Genshin is, lets say you're a new player, and region X just released, if you see a character from Region X and get them from the banner you cant build them up if you dont have that region unlocked as all they're materials to level up is from that region, being bosses, etc. So you'd have to play thru every main-quest line til you reach that region
Update: On top of all the other games within the game Genshin has, Necrit forgot to call out the game-mode, a card game, if im not mistaken its a permanent mode?
Actually the only storylocked region in Genshin is Inazuma. If you need Sumeru materials you can just go there as a new player and get them. And I assume that will also be the case moving forward, except maybe for Snezhnaya.
imo hoyovere i the exact opposite of riot. hoyoverse is not really focused on the competitive players
(the battle hungry veteran players that want more enemy and way of fighting) while riot used to focus on the competitive players.(they said this year they will give some love to the casual players)
I am genuinely happy you are now on your gacha arc, together with us other gacha players ... Really love good content creator covering our fave games.. good luck on your pulls!
to be fair comparing events 4 genshin vs league is truly a good point but on the long run the events just feels worse for a long player but thankfully there is no rank so you can always not do them and play genshin when big updates arrives
Exactly what i say. Games that have a working game-loop/endcontent don't need events - or at least not as much as genshin. After completing the game the events are all thats left in genshin - thats it, thats all - so they are forced to have much more of these than any other game. Thats fine during the honeymoon phase but gets very stale/bad after the first or second year.
And events are not always active. Combine this with forced daily logins and nothing left to do after 15min playtime and you get bored people who start to hate the game besides wanting to love it. Its a artificial conflict by design.
In my opinion dailys should be forbidden by law, weeklis are fine but not dailys.
I mean you're comaring genshin to the bottom of the barrel. I'm not too familiar with current-day league, but when I played they had 4 permanent game modes. Twisted Treelines and Dominion is now gone. So what remains is ARAM, Summoners ZZZZ and whatever else they've maybe added since. They did some kind of auto chess thing, but that became it's own standalone game?
Regardless comparing an open-world game vs a match-based MOBA isn't exactly the best comparison.
@@sofieberger8851 It doesn't help that the gameplay loop of Genshin is very stale and basically entirely based around the teams you put together and their artifacts. Characters being locked behind gacha hell and artifacts being locked behind a daily super RNG hell grind. I spent 3 months farming in 1 domain to get something, ANYTHING, nice for Childe...yeah I quit the game shortly after as the story tanked in quality and the lack of proper end-game never got addressed.
Also doesn't help that the story is just...not good most of the time. Even when it gets a bit interesting it presents it in a very cheesy and/or rushed manner. The side-stories and the limited-events have relatively inoffensive stories, but that also makes them extremely dry and boring. At least the game modes they present are pretty fun, but because they're limited time they won't get improved or added upon unless they return in the future for another event.
@@paledrake you are correct with everything.
The fun part, the story itself is somehow good BUT the storyTELLING is bad. I distinguish between the story itself and the way they present it.
Dottore killing all his clones is impressive BUT WE DONT SEE IT. All we get are standing characters talking with each other. Again and again and again.
@@sofieberger8851 This. The lore and the world is very intersectional and what happens in it too is good on paper. The problem lies in the execution and the presentation. The civil war in Inazuma has no war tactics in it (Kokomi tactical genius btw) and is generally sloppy instead of having awe-striking set-pieces. Azdaja was interesting, but the story up until the reveal was unengaging at best and the little girl was just goofy most of the time, ESPECIALLY THE MEAN-FACE STOMP IN THE CUTSCENE (I couldn't stop laughing). Also don't get me started on how they handled Signora and how jarring Scaramoch's new player introduction is. Liyue is also dead set on beating into you how grateful people are towards Rex Lapis and how they're basically good to live on their own for 80% of its runtime. Ironically Mondstadt has the best paced and presented story out of the first 3 regions. I can't comment on Sumeru since I've only looked up bits and pieces after I quit.
all i'm gonna say is u will start loving more of the combat gameplay when u get good artifacts, unlock characters and try new team comps at a point where u just want more combat oriented gameplay(at hard difficulty).
If you have broken characters and cracked artifacts, you will steam roll the game
A person interested in lore and stories not liking the combat isn't as weird as one might think.
Hell, I've been playing since the game launched and not once did I get the urge to do Abyss because I care about the open world and not the Mything Dungeon wannabe.
@@spiritwildfiregaming1975 bro I didn't say I'm not interested in lore. I'm up to date with lore. For example primordial one and the dragon souvenirs, the pari(s) being the product of 3 gods, dainsleif and jester(I think) fighting along side a God which I find pretty ironic(mentioned at the end of pari quest), Xiao was being slaved by a tyrant and had to kill innocent ppl and eat their dreams and many more. But a game's core is its gameplay. There's a reason y many old games(even present) did not even have a story but it was still massively successful. Yes I'm still fine with how the game is going and matter of fact I think it will go even higher in this route but it can go even higher and more enjoyable.
@@M_K499
"But a game's core is its gameplay. There's a reason y many old games(even present) did not even have a story but it was still massively successful"
Do...RPGs not count? Because usually the story is their whole thing.
Hell, Morrowind's gameplay is atrocious by most people's standard and yet people don't mind it because its story and world are great.
Also I didn't say that you in particular didn't care about lore. I mentioned that usually people who care about the world and lore don't really play such games for the sake of challenge, but for...well, the world and the lore.
@@charmelos1431 hard doesn't always mean dps check. I just want the enemies to have a higher movement speed, attack speed, higher damage and rng attacks (or) attack patterns in the open world. At least I want them to add these features in a optional world level
What I love about mihoyo is the sheer fact that they always play risk with new things if it flops or people just over all don’t like it they improve upon it and try another style it’s honestly quite refreshing
That's not true at all...
@@Swagbastianthey literally tune the event Game modes trying to get new takes on what people didnt like about them and they just keep going better and better
@@Swagbastian it is though, mainly teathre mechanicus, and now the fungi event rebranded, running around with MC was shit. The controls on this new one are also shit, but the concept is way better in my opinion, next time might be just right
@@Swagbastian Liyue mountains -> inazuma bungee -> middle eastern Spiderman simulator
@@Swagbastian It is definitely proof, since we havent seen or heard anything about that awful food delivery event. I really hope they fired and sent that person who come up with that event to insane asylum..
I personally fell in love with, specifically, Genshin's combat aspect. Doing Anemo Traveler's ultimate against those Pyro slimes and creating a fire tornado immediately sold me to the game back when it first came out.
I wish Abyss Reset was weekly instead of every 2 weeks...
SAME FEELING MAN, THAT TORNADO ULT WAS ENOUGH
I will be totally honest i love genshin and played the game since the release for 2 years without miss a single day i had all the story done, i did all the events they offered, i had 100% exploration for every region (before Sumeru release) and i could do abyss 36 stars since february 2021 and after 6 months i could do that but easily and all of this as a f2player, i would spend hours playing in co-op with randoms or even help friends who started playing it was totally a magic game that If i didnt had time i could play for 10 minutes or spend the whole day playing it was one of the greatest experiences i had in game but now even tho the story stills really good, the exploration and the events incredible, i still feel that i dont have use to my characters fully build because i can do abyss without thinking and thats what hurts me about the game hope on day they fix that part, but im happy that it stills a great game for new players and i totally recomend all my friends that didnt played before even tho for me its just a montly story nowadays thank you for the video and i hope you continue to enjoy this incredible game
Yeah I feel the same, it is annoying because the fix would be so simple, just make an end game where you can't reuse the same characters so challenge would come from building good enough teams, and it would all of your build characters useful, not only the strongest ones. Also anybody could participate in that, weaker accounts would just do less chambers then stronger ones.
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I can't believe you guys, making him play Genshin Impact instead of Deep Rock Galactic....
I think my favorite thing about Genshin is that it's not only the least predatory gatcha of all time, but also it's one of the best PVE games ever. It is literally an entire game of PVE, with little to no competitiveness. This is a plus for me atleast, since I prefer a chill game that has levels. Genshin manages to be fun and challenging, with actual strategy put in place.
Though I am still salt god over the fact that the common thought is every harbringer will be playable EXCEPT Signora out of fairness for the people who liked her.
Is the least predatory thing sarcasm or not?
@@charmelos1431Half truth half lie. It can be considered as not predatory gacha since A) there is a limit to how much you get screwed over. Japanese gachas have no requirement for pity or spark, unlike other Asian gachas like Genshin.
B) Hoyo avoids requiring meta defining characters to clear content
C) Primos are easy to come by
And D) Genesis crystals to Primo is one-to-one. Could be and there exists worse.
@@synckar6380 while it has a good pity system genshin has one of the lower rates out of any gacha aI have come across, it has less than 1% chance of an ssr, don't forget that you also need to use the weapon gacha to get at least some decent dmg
@@charmelos1431 my idea of predatory was based on how much they advertise the spending itself, in which Genshin honestly doesn't bother to throw the Wish screen at you too often
@@nechocat1234 Idk how you came to the conclusion that you need the weapon banner for "decent dmg" that's a crazy take.
What gets me mad is how some people just act like it's impossible for League to have actual events, an evolving story, alternative game modes, all of that. It's not exactly an unheard of concept in games like this.
And yes, we absolutely SHOULD compare Riot and HoYoverse.
As much as people shit on Genshin for being an anime gacha game, you gotta hand it to Mihoyo. You can't deny that they at least keep trying to make every event feel unique and different. And although not every event is amazing, you can still feel that they cared enough to justify your time and effort playing the game. Which is something that I can't say the same to for Riot and how they make events.
What riot event? :^)
@@DjuraValtr Remember Sentinels of Light? Yeah, let's forget about that
Their demographic is one thing, whales. League doesn't have whales it has Collectors, people who choose to buy skins and accessories that do nothing of their own accord. Genshin is pandering to people who has a ton of cash and want something now than working hard for it.
@@toopink4death492 gacha game are a ressource management marathon for 90%+ of the players because they are f2p. Bulk of the revenues comes from a very large amount of low low spenders or occasional spenders. Whale oriented gacha usually push hardcore pvp content and have a very small playerbase. It's not the case for genshin though, it's a classic fomo casual oriented gacha.
@@toopink4death492 Agreed, but Riot makes a lot of money from people who buy all the skins. I'd consider them League's Whales
The problem with the minigames, like you mentioned the autobattler, is the fact that they are almost never challenging enough. In the latest summer event, the cannon minigame I can just spam left click and get enough points to get all the rewards, that's just sad.
I knew Sumeru Archon Quest gon be different when we went through that Samsara Dream.
Regarding 7:32, as a player who started playing genshin since it got released, yes the game events feel incredibly redundant. I am well aware this is whining at a high level, but these events feel soulless to me. It's the same assets you've seen the last years, the same game mechanics of catching, activating or destroying something, and also the same enemy/NPC models. Some of the events are literally just fighting the monsters you've been fighting all the time, except now f.e. you get 30% extra damage when switching characters. Because of that, to me around 80% of the events feel incredibly lazy, while the remaining 20% at least implement new game mechanics like the auto-battler, but even that felt mediocre to me because everything from assets to targeting system to overlays was already used in other events.
I'm probably in the minority, but personally I only play genshin out of habit, as Necrit correctly said, it is truly a convenient game to just log in for 20min, smack some enemies around and leave. Anything else is just a drag.
TRUE THO
i will ONLY go back to this game if they add a skip dialogue button and i dont have to spam space for literally 10 minutes each time theres a new story
Maybe we are spoiled by the sheer quality of the game, but mini games is not what you want from events. Most of them are half assed and i'm not taking "casual game" as excuse for it. Tower defence event was fun, also prop hunt, arena fights are just do it as always (mechanics doesn't matter), neutral about puzzle events, photo\collecting stuff\mini games are always boring. For combat events it's literally the stronger you are, the less fun you have in game. And i never been bored of Genshin's combat.
The big thing is - events in between new main story chapters has been the bread and butter of gatcha players for years. That's just how Gatcha Games work. Honkai Impact, Arknights, Food Fantasy, all sprinkle events and other little things in between big story drops and have been doing it for a long time.
It's 2017, just lost 5 games in a row, demotion is close and it's just 8:00pm. Pro players said to play the PvE when tilted, proceed to play star guardian a bit, tilt is gone and I'm even praised by teammates for saving the game. Return to ranked to try to save my rank.
It's 2020, lost 3 games in a row, odyssey event just ended, nowhere to release tilt. Started playing genshin, tilt is gone, I should go back to League... Couldn't make it back that day.
I still play league but it's not taking 5 hrs a day or 16 on weekends as before.
Necrit... you know what is a roguelike? A genuine question cus I do like this genre a lot and there's no roguelikes in Genshin.
Guild War 2 tried doing it "living story" thing which is live story update, the problem is the server get overloaded on launch day and it was buggy... they abandoned it quickly and move to a slower "season" scheduling which is still impressive...
However Genshin is the first game I play that didn't have any noticeable "DAY 1" bugs in their new content like those earlier attempt... the way MHY rotate their developer and beta testing to keep a high quality is really on a class of its own. to do this they need 4 to 6 team so each team can work on a patch for 4-6 month than have another month for testing and fixing before they release... they turn patch making into a mass production pipeline....
Spiral abyss isn't roguelike what are you talking about
I remember when you started playing Genshin and now you have more hours in the game than me lmao
Really hoping Necrit lays his hands on the peak that is the Xenoblade Series one day🙏. I'm sure he'd love the expansive and surprisingly deep lore.
Also the OST slaps insanely hard.
ill say, as a veteran since what, 2021? i definitely got numb. the journeu from ar 45 to 60 is just so long and artifact farming definitely consumed most of that time. this definitely made me slow things down a bit to appreciate everything that came out
The game has good lore but bad characters and story ☠️ and no the game isnt good lmao even the gameplay is just decent and then there is the abysmal "events" or updates that practically add nothing
Yeah if you played only first quest lol
what i don't like is that every update takes half of my storage
I would love to see his reaction to all the Genshin Impact concerts and fan fairs/events
the story is what keeps me going honestly
Stories, Characters, Music, Enviroment, Dialogue, etc. Holy hell it is sooooo long.
I think the golden apple archipelago event is coming soon and you really don't want to miss this one.
You need to play for around 7 hours a day every day for 3 months to have over 600 hours, I think you might be making a mistake with those numbers.
7 hours are rookie numbers
Will we get a murder of birds and necrit colab on genshin theories?
Agree with the huge updates being super underappreciated, 1 half and a month for each update is insane. For the spiral abyss tho 😅 I only do floor 9 and 10 and would love if we actually had rotation of enemies. Theyve been the same ever since I started doing it Im a bit tired (I think floor 12 does change but Im unsure about 11)
11 changes too
9-12 always change? They’re the only stages that change every few weeks.
Unless you’ve been playing for less than a few months I don’t know how you can’t notice new enemies being introduced to Floor 9 and 10.
I believe 9-12 changes, however I think they arre always two same ones in the row, they just reset. Aka every 4 weeks new enemies every 2 weeks reward reset.
Floor 9 and 10 will be the same until the next region. Floor 11 and 12 change with new patches
@@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_ yeah thats what I thought. I mean it does have fungi so I did think at some point it had to change but man. 9 is fine as is but I really want them to mix it up for 10 at least
"Meanwhile I come from League"
*understandable, have a nice day*
So basically, you haven't played much actual live service games, so you have a low bar for what's "good" lol.
"Who cares if you miss dailies?" Ya man who cares about progression in an rpg? lol.
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you can find the enemies in the spiral abyss in the game, they are just in the new area or somewhere hidden
POV: You're a new player and haven't experience the dreaded new content drought between regions:
3.0 don't seem to have this problem
@@ERMIL1 obviously because Sumeru just came out. Just like how there was so much content when Inazuma dropped it's islands.
3.5 was pretty much a filler update for what 3.6 is offering
we only have 2-3 patches left before fontaine, 3.5 wasnt dry, the events were garbage
@@ERMIL1 you new or blind
veteran players of genshin especially F2P ones are only numb to rotating game modes in Genshin because the rewards they provide are assyou usually get about 1 or 2 crowns to get an ability to level 10 and roughly about 5 Pulls worth of primo-gems. That is the main issue people have with genshin events it doesnt feel rewarding participating in them. unless you're new and participate for the heck of it~
put theres also the perspective of players that went to genshin to avoid other games. like you go and play tft have a 10 game loosing streak where you hit bottom 3. only to be reminded of that BS in genshin during the autobattler event. so on and so forth~
Idk, more times than not the story of genshin was pretty bad, apart from the recent caribert quest which made me confused because the dude has conflicting responses when it comes to Caribert’s well being but it made sense after the story, but apart from that quests it has been pretty bad since most quests are plague with overbloated non skippable dialouges, the annoying “Interpret” system that wants you to interpret the situation in only one way which also slows down the story, and it mostly focuses on NPCs that no one cares about. I still don’t know how the majority of players feel any emotion towards the death of a certain NPC they just met an hour ago. Genshin has great character and world design along with a good set of music, but what it never had is a good story… It had a good amout of lore but never a good narrative.
I find the minigames fun since I play with other people, but when alone they are not interesting specially the recent ones besides the rhythm minigame.
They made billions of $ so their did formula work.
They manage to capture the casual audience which a huge part of their success.
It's good to see you enjoying your time playing Genshin and Honkai Star Rail.
Genshin is a really great game because of the constant updates and mini games, lots of people would die for their favorite game to have an inch of the content Hoyoverse puts on Genshin.
Other games have a working game-loop/endcontent they don't need new events every month.
I would prefer 80% less events and have something to do whenever i want to do it. And by the way: events are not always active and its by design. Cause while they force you to log in daily. They want you to be bored occasionaly after 15min playtime, so all thats left to do is "pull the gacha trigger (not time gated)". Daily logins should be forbidden, weeklys are fine, but not dailys (they are not casual by the way).
@@sofieberger8851 nothing to add, exactly the reason I stopped playing. No actual content
This rook has never played any live service game. Genshin doesn't even have endgame content.