Trailmaster TM38 300cc Chinese Dirt Bike
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- Just received my new Trailmaster TM38 300cc Dirt bike. I go over the bike and some light mods already done.
you can purchase some of the mods here
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This is the bike I'm interested in getting and have been looking for a video just like this forever. This is THE FIRST REAL REVIEW!!! keep us updated, thank you very much. I'm getting things together to purchase one for sure.
I tuned the carb. stock jets are 140 and 42. i switched to 135 and stayed 42, dropped the needle position down to the second lowest setting. it runs perfect now.
I got one today do it already comes with oil if so let me kno because I added a quart.. do I need to let the quart out??
@@jerrmyperryman3683 it comes with a break in oil. You run it for 1 hour and then change it to a motorcycle engine oil. It holds 1.7 quarts. There is a drain on the bottom, a filter on the left and two filters on the right side
Any upgrades you would recommend Ike the Exhaust or the CDI and etc
@@jerrmyperryman3683 the exhaust is a great one in my opinion, it sounds nice and seems to be free flowing. I did drill the holes in the spark arrestor one size larger and may go one more and I'll be wrapping it in 30 mesh with a metal tie so it's national forest legal. Otom cdi is on its way and worth doing. Nibbi has a performance ignition coil which I installed yesterday with a msd boot. Henner Motorsports has some upgrade parts for the engine and suspension. He can send you a advance flywheel key and port the head of you send it to him. I plan on upgrading the chain and sprockets with a name brand soon just for piece of mind. I installed KTM fairing today and will be starting the KTM decals tomorrow. I got all kinds of engine dress up stuff coming so be patient and I'll make another video that includes everything I have done and the part numbers
@@joshyelton thanks brother
Just bought the fuel ejection one! Can’t wait for it to come!! Street legal version
Post some videos of it! I'd love to see it
If the bike was set up like a dual sport I know five guys we would be ordering them right now . Like your video very nice 👍
You should be proud of the bike you bought! I wouldnt buy a volkswagen and put corvette stickers all over it. Support the brand you spent your hard earned money on.
If your Volkswagen had the exact body of a corvette would you keep the Volkswagen badge on it, or put a corvette badge on?
@@Kapilasgarage😂😂😂on god
Just a quick word about battery chargers that are meant for cars being used on small batteries, they may seem like they are not charging but most chargers can sense the size of the battery so they are going to charge at a very low amperage, which is exactly what you want. If you get a small cycle battery that you have to add the electrolyte to before charging, expect a charger to put out less than an amp for several hours and maybe get just over an amp during the peak of a 15-20 hour charge cycle, and you want low and slow for an initial charge. You can check it with a voltmeter during the charge process and if it's over 13 volts just let it take it's time and charge.
I knew that too but a whole lot of people don't. I use a 1 amp motorcycle battery charger, and it's also a trickle charger, good product and won't mess up the battery.
I met a family out in Moab last year that had 4 Chinese dirt bikes and they loved them he said they had them for a couple years and no problem with anything, the father said he wish they could get a big brand name but couldn’t afford it so at least they are all riding and having fun, ride on
thats right, not all chinese bikes are created equal so keep that in mind. this bike is one of the better ones coming from china
So glad u got this...keep me updated..I had cash in hand at dealership last week but was waiting for some reviews....same model n all
So far it's worth it but I haven't took it off road yet. It seems to be more of a mx bike instead a trail so it should hold up to some abuse.
thx much for some knowledge which actually means research most appreciated brother👍👍
I just bought the 2024 model. Has EFI and a small Catalytic Converter on the pipe with an oxygen sensor. Don't know if I really need it? Nice bike.
I just ordered mine the tm38xe. I would love to watch a video of your opinion on the bike also stuff like top speed, miles per gallon...
Can it be registered for the road?
@@Coco-Crisp25 yes
Excellent review thanks Josh top stuff mate it's crazy how the Chinese clone things totally blown away with this bike cheers mate
I took the Tm38 to a mx and a woods track today and just got home. All i can really say is that I won't be needing to "upgrade" to another bike any time soon. It did everything I expected it to do. Plenty of power and the suspension is awesome for nice size jumps. I need to stiffen the front compression a click or two and it will be perfect. Y'all don't be afraid to ride this bike they way you want to. It's not like other china bikes, it will do the job. I didn't get any video of the ride because my new GoPro hasen't shipped yet but I will soon. The rear china tire does slide a little more than I'm used to so when it wears out I'll be getting a nice set but that could also be that I'm running 18psi in it.
@@joshyelton yeah 18 psi is way to much 13 psi is great for track stuff.
@joshyelton hey brother how is the bike a year later? Has the frame or any major parts taken any damage or warping from jumping? I got my daughter one of the xpro hawk 50 and got myself an xpro x6 125 but I want something more my size power wise. Ideally I'd like to get a trailmaster that's powerful enough to turn into a wheelie machine for stunting mostly
Very nice dirt bike!! Thanks for the video!!!🔔🔥🙌👍👍👍
Thank you
Planing on being this bike for myself soon
Can you change the plastics and graphics with the tm31 to KTM as well?
Josh,
Thank you for the really in depth review. You gave a lot of good information. I started with your part 2 of this bike review. How did you determine that the front and rear end are honda replicas? Do the components have part numbers on them and are you inputting them into partzilla or are you measuring items and comparing them to spec sheets? I'm wanting to pull the trigger on the TM33 but the front is different than the TM38.
Keep up the great videos. thank you for sharing the knowledge.
I had some help figuring out what does and doesn't work on this bike. Their is some similar models sold under different names in the USA such as egl and kayo. Those riders are figuring things out as well and sharing the info.
@@joshyelton what doesn't work bro? Just curious
So excited to see the new video
Hey Josh, Glad you picked this up..keep us updated on how she holds up....slap a magnet on the swing arm and let us know if it is aluminum.
Ok I sure will. When I get parts in for the mods I'll be making a new video. If it sticks is it aluminum or not and which is better?
@@joshyelton sticks it's steel..falls off aluminum.
GPX FSE300R 84mm Bore, 53.6 stroke, coming in at 298cc same as this bike… maybe not the only true 300 😉
Good looking bike
But it costs over $2600.00 less than the GPX!
On the cdi box note the red one is not programmable but yes it moves up rev limiter and has a more aggressive ignition i can only assume it has different 'curves'? Or tunes? Sold by nibbi racing the translation to English left a lot to be desired.
Hey Josh, I'm finding that the fron forks are too soft for me. Have you found out what year honda the front forks are based off of? I need to buy stiffer springs. Thank you
Hey brotther, thanks for making this video. Ive been looking at the template x. But i saw your video.... now i think the trailmaster might be the way to go. I ride motorized bicycles. It's fun hitting 50 mph on a bicycle, but it's time to get something different. These would be my first motorcycle 🏍.
The tm38 is the best Chinese dirtbike out there but it is a beast so make sure you can handle it before you buy it. The hawk dlx 250 might be a better choice if it's your first dirtbike and that one is street legal
@joshyelton Hey, thanks for the reply 😀. See, that's the advice I need. I have 0 hours riding motorcycles, so maybe go into it with the hawk or templar. Thanks again!!
@@grendelsgarage9723 your welcome!
I've been waiting on a real video about it
It's a great bike and there's plenty of upgraded parts and accessories for it
@@joshyelton I love it. Keep the videos coming on it. Your the first one doing a review on this bike... THE FIRST ONE TO REVIEW IT... keep the videos coming
Nice job!👍
Thanks
Just looking at these. 1st buy for my teen but I wanna jump on too....wonder how good their assembly would be
Sold i'm buying 😁😁😁😁
Good vid boss I have a kpx 250 on layAway can't wait
Love the bike, i will buy same soon
There's a newer version of it now that's fuel injected and has turn signals
Looks pretty nice. I wonder how heavy it is wet. TM30 listed as 234 lbs "net" weight, 326 lbs "gross weight" whatever they mean by that, I'm not sure.. Maybe weight of crate and everything? My little TM29 is a surprisingly nice little pit bike, battery came charged in that one.
I may have to get one of these TM30s eventually. People trying to get rich off old used up dirt bikes these days.
I'm not sure of the exact weight but I'd say 330ish. The shipping weight was 380lbs. It's not as heavy as my hawk dlx and easier to handle
@@joshyelton Cool man. Thanks for info. Looks like a whole lot of bike for the money regardless.
@@bikersoncall Yeah man that’s still a pretty large bike. I might be happier with something that weighs about 200 lbs even if it has less power.
Yea I can’t ride a bike that is three of me lmfao
Too bad they didn't make an enduro 300cc. Would sell like hotcakes at the right price.
I git the efi model yesterday drop shiped and there was a blue jelly in bags that came with it, wonder if thats grease?
Looks good. I'm glad they coming out with water cooled models. I have an Orion rxb230l that is pretty good and it looks very similar frame/plastic. Are the wheels crf style? Might need a fresh bike I'd like to have wheels. Joe henner is the man he is all over these Chinese bikes. Thanks for the video.
yeah they are crf style. Henner has already got me some cool parts for it.
Hey i have another question. Do you have a link to an air filter for the TM36-TM38? Thanks again!
Have you had any problems with it not going into neutral..? Mine sticks, but then again it only has 5 miles on it.
Josh, what is the part number for the CDI box that you mentioned. I would like to order one for my TM38. Look forward to your updates with this motorcycle
Type this into amazon OTOM Motorcycle CDI Ignition Control Unlimited Speed Igniter Start CDI Box Igniter For ZONGSHEN Engine NC250 KAYO T6 BSE J5 Valve Parts
"Just incase one of your grips gets ripped off?" Is that a thing?
For the price is it worth buying one of those new or good used Japanese bike
I wanna see what you post about this bike 6 months from now on how good it holds up
ive had it around 6 months now and havent had a single issue
Only ones u can map is fule injection
Hi was wondering what type of coolant do you use?
An Alabama KTM stickers on order
IMO a “racing carb” would at least have an accelerator pump on it
I love the bike. If I got signals and brake light, could I register it for riding on the road?
Motobuys sells a newer version that's street legal now call the tm38EX
@@joshyelton thanks 🙏
Used the links. Hope you made a couple of bucks. Thank you!
Thank you. Enjoy your new bike!
How much was it on motobuys? Delivery and all..
Hey Josh, thanks for all the good info. Have you had any luck finding brake and clutch levers that are orange or blue?
Yeah a lot of KTM sets from Amazon and eBay fit
@@joshyelton thank you. I'm sure you have saved a lot of people alot of time and money.
Who makes these trail master bikes? there should be manufacturer info on the frame somewhere. I haven't bought one yet but I've found this same bike sold under different names.
Egl, kayo and trailmaster are similar but not the same. They are made out of different specs. The tm38 is the superior bike out of the three, then kayo and last egl. They share many parts but not all parts. The tm38 are imported to and made to their specs at Trailmaster headquarters in Texas
I THINK HE MEANS WHO IS THE CHINESE MANUFACTURER ON THE BLACK PLATE ON THE BIKE
What’s the top speed of this bike
You get a top speed test yet
How often did you change the oil on the bike?
I say 09 plastics fit in the video but It is 2014 KTM sxf 350 plactics and decals
Hey great video I wanted to know wht type of plastics go on for a long time not even the dealership knew are the wheels ktm fitment also or Honda or Yamaha n the lighting hookup
@@jonathan6347 its 2014 ktm sxf 350 plastics, honda crf250r wheels, hubs and axle. not sure of the swing arm yet but its closer to honda i think
@@joshyelton thank you you've been a big help and what's your opinion on the lighting setup as to why fitment would it take to do a street legal setup with blinkers n tail light n speedometer
@@joshyelton also wht year Honda crf250r or all the hubs the same for that line
@@jonathan6347 for the front I was told a 2019 crf250r hub and rim bolts right on. I'm assuming the axle and spacer would be the same but not sure. I think the tm38 would be a great on road bike. It has 6th gear and a counter balanced engine making it perfect for that.
Can you possibly convert this to a supermoto/enduro?
You sure can, you would just need tires and or rims and a turn signal/break light kit
Well I ordered one and it came defective. Coolant leaking into engine. Motobuys is MIA so I would not risk it.
Tighten the head bolts. Did you not go over it and check every single bolt?
@Josh Yelton I did double check bolts. The only loose bolt was the positive battery terminal. The bike came assembled with no coolant in the reservoir so I topped it off. Upon warm up milky white fluid appeared in sight glass and bike was shut off. Spoke with motobuys they said it could be the water pump seal but they are very slow in getting with me and figuring this out, its been a month now.
I was able to return the bike and get a full refund, the bike was defective but it couldve been due to extreme cold temps we were having at the time of delivery couldve froze the coolant and caused the issue.
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So i have a TM35, with the PE28 carb. I need jets and not sure what to buy. Thanks
How is that TM35 working out. I am looking at that one myself. TM38 would be ultimate, but 35 should still be plenty quick for me.
Price?
Can you make links with all the parts you bought for the bike like Amazon links
Look in the video description and I have an put in some of the parts there
I'm 6ft
'250 do you think this bike would hold me no problem
Absolutely! The tm38 is a massive bike and has a very powerful engine.
Can you please give me the link for the dirt bike and where did you buy it from?
Motobuys.com
I recently got one for myself but was wondering if you can help me with the fuel line setup. I can’t find a diagram and I am new to dirt bikes
Fuel line should have been preinstalled but what do you have going on?
Id put a pumper carb on
What to do if start engine cord is snapped what would you do , most store I called say they only fix Yamaha etc…
The start button or the ignition?
@@joshyelton the push start
@@prime23jordan69 On AliExpress type Otom push starter flameout button
I lost the back wheel brake pads , what brake pads do I search up yo order plz help
Yo plz
Cool bike do u think u could transform it to supermoto
Yeah, should just need rims and a turn signal kit
@@joshyelton litt great to know
I got it but it had no building instructions, and my electric start cord just got disconnected I’m so pissed
Electric start should plug right in. What information do you need to help you put it together? look at this video to see instructions. its almost the same bike "10Ten 250RX 21/18 250cc 96cm Dirt Bike Assembly Video"
For the price it seems like you should just get a yz250 or 450. I am unsure it would hold up to aggressive riding.
It's helds it very well. I've had it for 5 months on aggressive trails and nothing broke yet.
@@joshyelton that's good to hear. I'd like to see one of these in person. It looks like it could be a good backup/loaner bike.
@@joshyelton is there any replacement parts like a top end or valves
@@trevordoherty8343 yes it's a nc250/nc300 engine. All engine parts can be purchased on eBay, amazon or aliexpress
kayo etc gpx these gud to
Hey Josh. What paper oil filter did you find to be the right one?
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@@joshyelton Hey Josh, do you know if this filter would fit the tm36?
@@LuisRodriguez-vq8zv yes it does
@@joshyelton Thank-you sir. I'll be ordering those and the oil you posted from Amazon. 🙏🏻 Thanks again, Josh.
Where’d you buy this bike from?
Motobuys
I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. The 300s you were referring to our two stroke. You are on a four stroke 300. Huge difference.. no one makes a 300 4 stroke.
They using that bike’s title to make the ktm road legal. Not saying everyone one, but some.
I have a 78 Honda xl250s, but I'm looking for a second newer bike, do these hold up well?
Absolutely, best china bike for the money
@@joshyelton Nice. I was looking a a Honda 300 rally, or Kawasaki TW200, etc, but I can get 2 of these for the same price, lol 😆
I would get an fcr carb for it
Hi just purchased this bike after watching your video . I'm having trouble with the small fuse blowing out when going high rpm . Is it okay to delete the small fuse and connect straight Josh?
I replaced mine with a 20amp and haven't had anymore issues. Most bikes comes with at least a 15 or 20 anyway.
How do you find neutral on this bike please help i can’t find the gear that keeps it running while the bike is stopped
So all the way down is 1 then up is neutral up again to 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th. When it's new it can be hard to find it but change the oil and it'll work more smooth
Is there a street-legal version of this bike?
Not at this time but there is other Chinese brands that are. The hawk dlx is my favorite, i own two of those.
Yes, check out dirt legal. They sell a kit to make any bike street legal.
There’s a trail master tm36 that’s street legal. It’s a 36 or 34 I don’t remember.
Josh how you measure correct size kickstarter im wanting to change mine out along with gear shifter.
I am still using the factory kick start lever. If you want to replace it search for nc250 kickstart
@@joshyelton you get any light black smoke with cold start and revving.
@@johnbess7320 tune the carb
Josh u find a front disc cover yet?
Yes it's a crf250r cover. Fits perfectly
@@joshyelton can u send a link
3500?
They are the same quality as honda or yamaha??
Very very close. If it didn't have any logos on it and you were standing beside it or riding it you wouldn't know a difference
How much does it cost? Where did you order it from?
Hit the like button and subscribe to my channel. I ordered it from motobuys.com and it was $3800 plus tax with free shipping and I paid extra for a 18 month warranty
Is the tm36 the same engine as the tm38?
same engine with a different size bore kit
the kenda k760 tire is way better back tire though
Is it 4 strokes or 2 strokes
It's a 4 stroke
How is it holding up?
I haven't road it much lately. I was bit by a brown recluse and got bad sick and since I've been better it's been raining everyday I can ride
Does it come assembled?
it is partially assembled. you have to install the front and rear suspension, handlebar and front rim
Josh can you put and aftermarket exhaust on this. Will 2014 ktm 350 exhaust work on this. Where you get the jets for this at thanks.
It's comes with the jets, the exhaust is free flowing and you won't need to change it, the KTM has a different engine so it's exhaust might not fit.
@@joshyelton graphics for the 2014 ktm 350 fits on this doesn’t it?
@@keithpainter7325 yeah 2014 KTM 350 fairings and decals fit
KTM sxf
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I was finna buy that one but instead I got the Xpro 250cc titan but that one looks just
Alike as the Xpro
The tm38 has alot more upgrades than the xpro. Bigger engine, better suspension
@@joshyelton probably but I’m happy on what i got now. Maybe in the future I’ll probably buy me one of those but you should make a video of how it sounds and rides if you can
@@dayleeday797 have fun on it! I looked at those too , for the price you can't beat it
Where can they be purchased?
Motobuys.com
What website did you use
I purchased from motobuys and it was here in 6 days
Where do you get the rear wheel hub from?
Contact the seller you got it from or motobuys and the can get you one
@@joshyelton I did they don’t pick up you can’t get a after market or online?
@@401RI they go by central time I think, keep calling and they will answer. I've spoke to them twice and didn't have any issues with them. Aftermarket would probably be a honda
What kind of Honda and what year?
Did you remove the trailmaster stickers before u put on the KTM graphics kit? And these bikes are very heavy
No, I used new fairings
#1 Rule never finance a bike..those finance companies are crooked af & double charge you more than what the bike is worth
Around $300 more. It's a fixed rate type of thing. Way better than real financing using affirm
Like 30% interest when I last looked.
Hi what shipping company did they use? A freight company or a box truck with a lift gate?
Saia
China is doing what they do best, ripping off other manufacturers designs and selling them. I'll stick with the real TM made in Italy not China. I'm sure it's a nice bike for the price though China does make everything for the world. Nice review Ride safe Cheers!
is what it is.
I got one today do it already comes with oil if so let me kno because I added a quart.. do I need to let the quart out??
Yes it comes with oil. Run it for one hour and then change it. I replaced the large mesh oil filter with a paper one from otom
Whats the top speed?
Not sure yet. Engine is still being broke in
@@joshyelton can you let us know when you do do it?
@@Nas678 I can try, it doesn't have a built in speedo but I can use gps to find out
@@joshyelton thx
@@joshyelton top speed yet?
Cv or hp?
It produces 31 Horse Power
I ordered a TM38 what type of oil you use?
I'm using ultra lube 10w40 right now. I ordered a case of it on Amazon last year and I'm down to my last quart.
@@joshyelton ty
@@joshyelton is ultra lube the name?
@@johnbess7320 yes ultra lube. I tried to find the listing on Amazon for you but it's saying it's been removed
@@joshyelton what about ultra1plus 10w40?
trail master is only 279cc motor
You won’t be able to map a carb bike I don’t think
You can't but you can change the timing curves through the cdi