I made the mistake of going with Kachis. Which is incredibly comprehensive, but had the negative effect of intimidating me on my first run for everything that could go wrong but doesn’t if you follow the flow of the core mechanics.
@@AnonEMus-cp2mn Kackis isn't a terrible option but he pads out his videos by fluffing up what he says which overcomplicates teaching mechanics a lot imo. I always go to Fallout for mechanic guides because he gets out his vids quick and he explains mechanics really well and concisely
I notice something while helping others teams to acomplish that 3-man Raid on contest, during the final boss damage phase THE LASERS DO HAVE A PATTERN, if the boss is at the middle plataform the safe area will be the middle part on the arena, if the boss teleports to the left/right plataform, the safe area will be at the respective side of the arena, when I notice that I never died to the lasers again, but you still gotta move, sometimes the front/back/middle area of the safe side will be "laserd", so go to front/back/middle of the side to stay safe, if this isn't enough for you to understand it, try to see the arena like a "#". OBS.: If u are using Grand Overture YOU DONT NEED TO AIM, will be way safer if you hip-fire it so you can have a better look at the floor and have a quicker reaction to the attack. Hope this help u guys farm it!
The dots at 9:15 actually do have a purpose. You can identify the number based off of the dots alone. Its in binary. Top dot glowing is 1, right glowing is 2, bottom glowing is 4, and left glowing is 8. If multiple dots are glowing then just add up the values of the dots for the number. It's pretty neat
Note that in the final encounter, when you’re in the bottom rooms, a timer does start once you’ve shot the 4 panels as operator. You can see it at 13:30 ‘sector purge countdown’, and will kill you when it reaches 0. It basically means that you’ve only got ~40 seconds for the scanner to scan the correct clone, kill it, then deposit the nuke in the middle room. Shouldn’t be too much of an issue as a fireteam but worth keeping in mind solo, since you can’t take your time scanning and depositing. Just thought I’d mention since what datto said at 14:48 isn’t entirely true given the above
One note about the comment about Anarchy at the end, it actually isn’t working with some of the seasonal GL mods (weaken and tremors) so Anarchy is really just back on the menu for this dungeon as it’s easy dmg over time while you can stay mobile, perfect for the final boss here
@@fintiniganlucille5547 yeah, having done all the quests and stuff- it really isn't as bad as I initially thought, but I had a good sherpa on my first clear, which made learning it very smooth.
Bungie just wants everyone to hate play their game. These dungeons aren’t fun, they’re over complicated and annoying. Will literally ruin your whole day.
@@keld0n84 I strongly disagree after interacting with it, I dislike the math mechanic for secrets, but the actual encounters are fairly simple after you get used to it. I still think GOTD is the worst RAD they've ever made.
Note for Entrance & First Encounter. For entrance only 1 panel will be wrong. In first encounter only two panels per room will be incorrect. This csn makes runs slightly faster by not having to scan every single panel. Especially if you’re solo.
The lights on the Baby Servitors is an indication of their number, but in binary. The top is 1, right is 2, bottom is 4, and left is 8. So Raneiks-7 will have top, right, and bottom. This is redundant information, but if you can read this, it is faster than waiting for the aiming UI to show that Raneiks' number, especially when they are heavily grouped.
Note for Master mode runs: Tether is currently enabled in that mode *only*. My team baked the first boss with it, but it does cause major framerate drops during DPS (especially if you have a Stasis Titan going ham in their super).
@@naylor7495nova bomb with star eaters class item is the highest possible on prismatic, add in the fragment where light abilities do more damage to darkness debuffed targets and add void weakness (or tractor/tether) on top
If you're solo in the first encounter you can use an auto-loading rocket launcher to kill brigs by holding the core until your launcher reloads then drop the core, quickly fire your rocket, then pick the core up again. This will let you maximize the amount of time you have to kill the brigs, especially the last one.
Thank you for using normal mode gameplay. Everyone else used Contest mode and its a mess to make out whats happening or what they're doing despite instruction.
Am I the only one who finds it weird you have to wait till you have all 4 numbers to shoot the number panels? Atleast I feel they could have made that more clear that you had to wait to attain all the numbers first.
@@MiniMuni69 my group was just lost in what we had to do till someone outside of it suggested waiting. I was sitting there trying to figure out what the amount and location of highlighted dots on the robots was for because we weren't losing progress unless we put in the wrong numbers so I assumed we had to get 4 numbers out of splitting the servitor once
While I'm glad a lot of people are enjoying the new dungeon, I'm not one of them. Maybe I'm in the minority, but this shit's getting way too complex and time consuming for me personally to enjoy and attempt to get and try out these new weapons. The latest dungeons are becoming more and more ridiculous for the sake of difficulty -- at the expense of the fun and re-playability in my opinion -- and it's got to be reaching a breaking point for some people. I know it is for me. Anyway, more power to the people that enjoy it and find it fun.
10:00 Don't instantly suppress. After suppressing the boss, you have the same amount of time to damage the split form regardless of when you suppress. Do some damage with a special or something while it's unified, then when it's about to go immune pop the suppress to extend your DPS time
doing it this way the boss will sometimes activate its death gaze and remain even when split, sometimes still going immune when split. ruined a few solo flawless runs this way
Just an FYI Datto, the extra lights in the mini servitors is a binary code representing the number of the servitor. For example, the servitor with the number 1 will have the top light lit. Servitor number 7 will have top, right and bottom light lit. This is only to identify the correct servitors without the need of aiming in between all the mess. I wonder why none of the guides or content creators have mentioned this at all.
The reason grand overture is working well is because the dps phase is so long you can do 3 full middle volleys pretty easily. Usually dps phases don’t last long enough to take advantage of grand overtures total damage
For final fight if the well lock is using speaker helm with heal nades u can sit in the well and tank everything for dps even more so if you have the well in a location the melee enemies can't reach.
point of clarification Datto. At 14:47...once the 4th panel in a room is shot and the doors close...there is a 40 second timer that starts called Sector Purge Countdown. If you dont dunk the core by then (for whatever reason)....its a wipe. We have wiped a few times to killing the copy...but not dunking the core before this timer ends. That is the only "NEED TO DO THIS BEFORE THE TIMER ENDS" mechanic in this first part.
It doesn’t matter how I try and break this down, raids and dungeons have way too many mechanics to get my head around 😂 I’ve played this once with my clan, it was too much for me to cope with ngl. I still have no idea what some of it was and I got lost soo many times. It’s too fast with too many things going on at once. Completely makes my head spin. I need to learn this in my clan with the roles we had when I first done it but it took so long because I just couldn’t concentrate on everything going on and now I’m not sure if they’re avoiding it with me 😐😂 the amount of money I’ve sunk into this game lately just to still feel bored and burned out is really putting me off of destiny all together. It would be great If you could isolate and practice these encounters atleast because I don’t know how I’m ever supposed to learn this much
@@naylor7495 I've been out-DPSing both of those set ups. Maybe my LFG team mates were just not great with damage, but the damage screens I had, Overture players were getting 4.5+mil, and me around 6.1mil.
I tried Nova Warp on the servitor boss, but my buddy was using Glacial Quake. I couldn't quite tell how effective it was, and it seems like it might push the servitors out and spread them apart which is pretty counter-intuitive. On the final boss, I really like using Chaos Reach with Geomag Stabilizers or Song of Flame with Outbreak Perfected/a solar machine gun like Speleologist.
Tried a Dawn Chorus+Dragon's Breath Scortch > Ignitions Warlock build against the servitor boss: we got him in one phase. What's funny is that even though Song of Flame was over and all heavies shot, the amount of Scortch spreading across the 10 mini servitors lead to infinite Ignitions for the entire damage phase, from full health to his demise, lmao.
I encountered a glitch where if you killed the clones too close to each other or at the same time, The next buff doesn't spon. So try to kill them separately or at different times
First time hitting vespers and I'm running solo because I have no friends and don't play well with dumb people including myself so thank you for the guidance
10:59 fyi ignitions are nerfed against this boss. Dragons Breath is indeed a goat exotic but you won’t get its full potential on this boss. I’ve found jolt to be effective
i'm glad i didnt spend money on this dungeon, others i can do random/lfg, but this seems more complicated than i'd like , rip me doing future dungeons if this is how they are gunna be i guess
I did get the Ice Breaker earlier. Even if I never get the catalyst when retire from Destiny as a whole, at least I can with the first exotic I ever had.
My only complaint is there are too many one-shots in the last encounter. Operater shoots wrong panel, the "arc" field during damage, radiation and the trip mines. One of these could go and I'd like the dingeon a lot more
The way I see it, if you’re doing the mechanics correctly you will rarely or never encounter the vast majority of one shots. The one thing we have desperately needed in dungeons are stakes. Too often could you mess up a mechanic and just get away Scott free. Dungeons are end game content, let’s give them end game stakes.
![Solo Contest Vesper's Host Dungeon (Up To Final Boss) [Destiny 2]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/S7ysq1hvDQk/mqdefault.jpg)
![Solo Contest Vesper's Host Dungeon (Up To Final Boss) [Destiny 2]](/img/tr.png)
The music really never gets old, there's something nostalgic about it now.
wrong
playing this song at my wedding
I've finished the dungeon, but came for the music.
@@simplecircuitsame
@@Charlie_vz you're gonna drop an info guide about your wedding and its going to be good 🔥
Didn’t watch a single guide so I can lose my vespers-host-mechanics-TH-cam-guide virginity to you 🙏
I made the mistake of going with Kachis. Which is incredibly comprehensive, but had the negative effect of intimidating me on my first run for everything that could go wrong but doesn’t if you follow the flow of the core mechanics.
@@AnonEMus-cp2mn Kackis isn't a terrible option but he pads out his videos by fluffing up what he says which overcomplicates teaching mechanics a lot imo. I always go to Fallout for mechanic guides because he gets out his vids quick and he explains mechanics really well and concisely
REALLLLLLL
stupid
Y’all just a dollar sign to him lol & you act like this
The amount of milage dattos gotten from this song is hilarious
Almost 4 years or some shit I think
@@keatonanderson52564? He's been using it since his VoG guide over 10 years ago.
It’s so he doesn’t get copyright struck for music. Use what works.
I notice something while helping others teams to acomplish that 3-man Raid on contest, during the final boss damage phase THE LASERS DO HAVE A PATTERN, if the boss is at the middle plataform the safe area will be the middle part on the arena, if the boss teleports to the left/right plataform, the safe area will be at the respective side of the arena, when I notice that I never died to the lasers again, but you still gotta move, sometimes the front/back/middle area of the safe side will be "laserd", so go to front/back/middle of the side to stay safe, if this isn't enough for you to understand it, try to see the arena like a "#". OBS.: If u are using Grand Overture YOU DONT NEED TO AIM, will be way safer if you hip-fire it so you can have a better look at the floor and have a quicker reaction to the attack. Hope this help u guys farm it!
I’m going to the final boss right now I would love to confirm this
Yeah it's in a 3x3 grid although those front 3 areas even if no lightning still really rnt safe cus the boss and copies
mmmmmm thank you for this
THANK YOU!!!!!
Ty for the info will use
Feel like that "do not enter your menu in the launcher" line was there directly targeted at Jez.
Definitely
It 100% was. Datto raged at Jez forever for doing that
The dots at 9:15 actually do have a purpose. You can identify the number based off of the dots alone. Its in binary. Top dot glowing is 1, right glowing is 2, bottom glowing is 4, and left glowing is 8. If multiple dots are glowing then just add up the values of the dots for the number. It's pretty neat
THE RAID MUSIC LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO
Datto please never change the raid guide music it’s such a nice feeling of consistency and is comforting in a way that’s hard to describe
Sir this is a dungeon not a raid.
@ it’s still the same music
Note that in the final encounter, when you’re in the bottom rooms, a timer does start once you’ve shot the 4 panels as operator. You can see it at 13:30 ‘sector purge countdown’, and will kill you when it reaches 0. It basically means that you’ve only got ~40 seconds for the scanner to scan the correct clone, kill it, then deposit the nuke in the middle room. Shouldn’t be too much of an issue as a fireteam but worth keeping in mind solo, since you can’t take your time scanning and depositing. Just thought I’d mention since what datto said at 14:48 isn’t entirely true given the above
this would have totally fucked me on solo thanks for pointing it out
One note about the comment about Anarchy at the end, it actually isn’t working with some of the seasonal GL mods (weaken and tremors) so Anarchy is really just back on the menu for this dungeon as it’s easy dmg over time while you can stay mobile, perfect for the final boss here
This dungeon seems more mechanically complex than most raids, goddamn
Ikr?, this is actually harder than kingsfall, crotas end, vow, even the newest raid
in practice the mechanics aren't that bad
@@fintiniganlucille5547 yeah, having done all the quests and stuff- it really isn't as bad as I initially thought, but I had a good sherpa on my first clear, which made learning it very smooth.
Bungie just wants everyone to hate play their game. These dungeons aren’t fun, they’re over complicated and annoying. Will literally ruin your whole day.
@@keld0n84 I strongly disagree after interacting with it, I dislike the math mechanic for secrets, but the actual encounters are fairly simple after you get used to it. I still think GOTD is the worst RAD they've ever made.
Note for Entrance & First Encounter. For entrance only 1 panel will be wrong. In first encounter only two panels per room will be incorrect. This csn makes runs slightly faster by not having to scan every single panel. Especially if you’re solo.
The lights on the Baby Servitors is an indication of their number, but in binary. The top is 1, right is 2, bottom is 4, and left is 8. So Raneiks-7 will have top, right, and bottom. This is redundant information, but if you can read this, it is faster than waiting for the aiming UI to show that Raneiks' number, especially when they are heavily grouped.
omg thank you I've been going crazy trying to figure out what they meant.
That’s not binary is it? Binary is 1 and 0 in sequences
Holy shit that's cool.
@@PhilAlm92 Binary is an on/off or yes/no state, there's ways to represent it that aren't just 1s and 0s.
Note for Master mode runs:
Tether is currently enabled in that mode *only*. My team baked the first boss with it, but it does cause major framerate drops during DPS (especially if you have a Stasis Titan going ham in their super).
sorry i’m a well noob, what’s the best warlock dps for the first boss? i assume nova or song of flame but want to run the optimal build
@@naylor7495 stormtrance meme dps
@@naylor7495nova bomb with star eaters class item is the highest possible on prismatic, add in the fragment where light abilities do more damage to darkness debuffed targets and add void weakness (or tractor/tether) on top
If you're solo in the first encounter you can use an auto-loading rocket launcher to kill brigs by holding the core until your launcher reloads then drop the core, quickly fire your rocket, then pick the core up again. This will let you maximize the amount of time you have to kill the brigs, especially the last one.
Datto's guide voice is something i didnt realize i missed
Thank you for using normal mode gameplay. Everyone else used Contest mode and its a mess to make out whats happening or what they're doing despite instruction.
Am I the only one who finds it weird you have to wait till you have all 4 numbers to shoot the number panels? Atleast I feel they could have made that more clear that you had to wait to attain all the numbers first.
Yeah, I was disappointed in my first solo attempt of the boss when I couldn’t shoot 2 first and 2 later
@@MiniMuni69 my group was just lost in what we had to do till someone outside of it suggested waiting. I was sitting there trying to figure out what the amount and location of highlighted dots on the robots was for because we weren't losing progress unless we put in the wrong numbers so I assumed we had to get 4 numbers out of splitting the servitor once
@@lesliejacoby9137 My team were stuck on it too. The dots are the servitor number in binary. Top is 1, Right is 2, Bottom is 4, Left is 8
@@darklordwill905 bruh
Yeah, could have used a "The tech priest resets the system" or something in the message log when you go up after shooting a number.
0:33 ninja vanish
Datto-sama is no match for the Eliksni shogunate
*Instant Transmission Sound Effect*
On todays episode of "listenining to the guide just for the raid music"
While I'm glad a lot of people are enjoying the new dungeon, I'm not one of them. Maybe I'm in the minority, but this shit's getting way too complex and time consuming for me personally to enjoy and attempt to get and try out these new weapons. The latest dungeons are becoming more and more ridiculous for the sake of difficulty -- at the expense of the fun and re-playability in my opinion -- and it's got to be reaching a breaking point for some people. I know it is for me. Anyway, more power to the people that enjoy it and find it fun.
thanks for doing the guide bcus of chat yesterday datto
10:00 Don't instantly suppress. After suppressing the boss, you have the same amount of time to damage the split form regardless of when you suppress. Do some damage with a special or something while it's unified, then when it's about to go immune pop the suppress to extend your DPS time
doing it this way the boss will sometimes activate its death gaze and remain even when split, sometimes still going immune when split. ruined a few solo flawless runs this way
@@tayoffbeat I haven't experienced that but damn that's a tough bug
Just an FYI Datto, the extra lights in the mini servitors is a binary code representing the number of the servitor. For example, the servitor with the number 1 will have the top light lit. Servitor number 7 will have top, right and bottom light lit. This is only to identify the correct servitors without the need of aiming in between all the mess. I wonder why none of the guides or content creators have mentioned this at all.
Man, this looks like a fun dungeon! Can’t wait to try it!
I've also seen a tcrash titan with cuirass get 4 supers off in a single dps phase, because the boss clones+cuirass give so much super energy.
Of course only minutes after completing the dungeon is when thisbis posted. Knew I should've waited until this afternoon
Oh yeah, the raid guide music always hits juuuuuussst right.
Has a contest clear and watches anyway. Here for the music and Datto's voice.
Came for the guide, stayed for the music 🤩
The reason grand overture is working well is because the dps phase is so long you can do 3 full middle volleys pretty easily. Usually dps phases don’t last long enough to take advantage of grand overtures total damage
For final fight if the well lock is using speaker helm with heal nades u can sit in the well and tank everything for dps even more so if you have the well in a location the melee enemies can't reach.
point of clarification Datto. At 14:47...once the 4th panel in a room is shot and the doors close...there is a 40 second timer that starts called Sector Purge Countdown. If you dont dunk the core by then (for whatever reason)....its a wipe. We have wiped a few times to killing the copy...but not dunking the core before this timer ends. That is the only "NEED TO DO THIS BEFORE THE TIMER ENDS" mechanic in this first part.
It doesn’t matter how I try and break this down, raids and dungeons have way too many mechanics to get my head around 😂 I’ve played this once with my clan, it was too much for me to cope with ngl. I still have no idea what some of it was and I got lost soo many times. It’s too fast with too many things going on at once. Completely makes my head spin. I need to learn this in my clan with the roles we had when I first done it but it took so long because I just couldn’t concentrate on everything going on and now I’m not sure if they’re avoiding it with me 😐😂 the amount of money I’ve sunk into this game lately just to still feel bored and burned out is really putting me off of destiny all together. It would be great
If you could isolate and practice these encounters atleast because I don’t know how I’m ever supposed to learn this much
fully agree
The lights on the smaller servitors for the 2nd encounter boss are a visual tell of what number it is. It's a binary code going clockwise
Don’t really play D2 anymore, but here to watch the content anyway.
I've beat it about 8 times and I'm still watching.
For 2nd encounter dps I do not recommend dragons breath. Ignitions were dealing significantly reduced damage to all the servitors.
Yeah it kinda was a let down
You’re laughing
That thing is in the lower stacks and you’re laughing
That servitor took like 7 phases for me and my team. We weren't using any of the mentioned weapons so I'll keep that in mind
Anarchy + Mountaintop has been doing wonders in my LFG runs.
is it better than grand overture or witherhoard BaS edge?
@@naylor7495 I've been out-DPSing both of those set ups. Maybe my LFG team mates were just not great with damage, but the damage screens I had, Overture players were getting 4.5+mil, and me around 6.1mil.
Already know how to do the dungeon
Watching for tradition and that sweet music
I tried Nova Warp on the servitor boss, but my buddy was using Glacial Quake. I couldn't quite tell how effective it was, and it seems like it might push the servitors out and spread them apart which is pretty counter-intuitive. On the final boss, I really like using Chaos Reach with Geomag Stabilizers or Song of Flame with Outbreak Perfected/a solar machine gun like Speleologist.
For the boss welling on top of the right gas tank thing will keep you alive through lightning strikes
who up guiding they datto into they Vesper's host
Time to listen to the music for 20 minutes after already clearing the dungeon several times
15:11 I feel like that was a message to Jez...
the mad lad put the raid music in
worth noting for master there are barrier champions that spawn in the bottom rooms and can make to puppet with the nuke immune...even through walls...
Wow steamy fresh dungeon guide
Tried a Dawn Chorus+Dragon's Breath Scortch > Ignitions Warlock build against the servitor boss: we got him in one phase.
What's funny is that even though Song of Flame was over and all heavies shot, the amount of Scortch spreading across the 10 mini servitors lead to infinite Ignitions for the entire damage phase, from full health to his demise, lmao.
lets gooooo now I can bully people for not doing things the way datto intended
Time to watch a guide for content I'm never gonna actually buy.
😂
Omg the song is on Spotify! Finally!
yk the vids gonna be good when you hear the raid music
Thanks datto
Already ran it a few times. Just here for the music
I encountered a glitch where if you killed the clones too close to each other or at the same time, The next buff doesn't spon. So try to kill them separately or at different times
First time hitting vespers and I'm running solo because I have no friends and don't play well with dumb people including myself so thank you for the guidance
DATTO RAID MUSIC🗣🗣‼️‼️
Here for the music 🎶
My strategy has arrived
Me knowing exactly how to do the dungeon but still watching this video anyway:
In the red room, after shooting the panels, then depositing operator . I die to burning immediately. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong
Hell yeah, Raid/Dungeon music time
how to guide music is what i sleep to
After watching this....I think I'll go play something else. God Bungie, this is ridiculous.
10:59 fyi ignitions are nerfed against this boss. Dragons Breath is indeed a goat exotic but you won’t get its full potential on this boss. I’ve found jolt to be effective
Prospector does wonders too
DATTO!!! Where are your thoughts? How am I supposed to know if I like the dungeon or not!
I love you Datto
if i see a guide without this audio i dont want it
I feel like some of these insults are geared toward Jez, probably.
YAY he used the Raid Guide Music!
I say u can drop the nuke for a bit, but yet as soon as I drop it it blows up
Holy shit, this seems difficult
Can’t believe you made me watch Fallout because you took too long… still love you though
geez this dungeon's got hands
Just here for the tunes~
for the second encounter im shooting the right panels on the wall, not dying, but nothing is happening after i input the 2 sets of numbers
9:57 Suppreshure shank
Happens to the best of us
i'm glad i didnt spend money on this dungeon, others i can do random/lfg, but this seems more complicated than i'd like , rip me doing future dungeons if this is how they are gunna be i guess
If I finished it with lfg everyone can. Give it a try. It is kinda annoying in my opinion tho.
Everything is harder in paper than in practice. Not hard to learn and is a ton of fun.
Who the hell designed this dungeon? The accounting department? Its easier to file my taxes than keep track of this stuff.
I’m here for my opinion and music
damn, the music is fire.
oh boy. the dungeon equivalent of Salvations Edge.
My fireteam and I when we went down we on saw 3 of those clones but couldn’t be able to tell which one because they all looked the same.
I wonder if theres a hidden mechanic to raneiks unified, im constantly getting only 5ish seconds of damage phase and its already invulnerable again
I did get the Ice Breaker earlier. Even if I never get the catalyst when retire from Destiny as a whole, at least I can with the first exotic I ever had.
Raid music is back 🤘
Blue number that faces the center of the room? I’ve replayed so many times and cannot seem to identify where that is/what it looks like
ANARCHY+MOUNTAINTOP RAAAAAAHHHHHHH
For everyone wondering what do the eyes on the servitors mean... they're are a representation of the servitors’ number in binary.
Hey datto just wanna say that even in these dark times for destiny you're still the GOAT! Keep up the good work
Man, i love that signature "Datto explains mechanics so you dont have to beat your head into a wall for 2 hours" music.
In the second encounter the dots on the servitors is the number of the servitor but in binary. Top is 1, right is 2, bottom is 4, and left is 8
When will you do a review video of it
I know how to do the dungeon, I'm just here for the music
Wait are we getting another dungeon with the last episode?
My only complaint is there are too many one-shots in the last encounter. Operater shoots wrong panel, the "arc" field during damage, radiation and the trip mines. One of these could go and I'd like the dingeon a lot more
The way I see it, if you’re doing the mechanics correctly you will rarely or never encounter the vast majority of one shots. The one thing we have desperately needed in dungeons are stakes. Too often could you mess up a mechanic and just get away Scott free. Dungeons are end game content, let’s give them end game stakes.