The game needs new enemy types, the illuminate, and new battlenfronts. Im dying to play on a city ruin map and actually feel like im retaking a planet instead of fighting for some barely settled plot of wilderness.
It doesn’t even need this, The grind just needs to be worth it and actually fun, 8 hours for the new ship upgrades, 8 hours for 8% less explosive drop off damage? Get the fuck out
I really get that but generating entire cities is wayyy more complicated and difficult than creating simple terrain, if that happens I doubt it will be in the near future. And creating an entire new faction also ain't that easy, especially when you're still doing smaller content drops
@TheJestersDoorhey braindead specimen, while you're saying "don't listen to these videos" mabye you should He said 90% of players on PC, not other platforms And 100k players on playstation isn't thriving lmao, compared to other games and loosing 90% of the pc players, it's a total failure
People over exgerrate dead games, Helldivers isn't dead... it still as an active player base, and great gameplay. We see this happen to almost all games now. You can't expect people to play the same game consisently all the time. Helldivers did have a few drawbacks though, considering what sony did.
Al’s big Junie you should know that they are a one hundred developer team and trying to do they best they are and also you should use new weakens and try stuff out and not be use what other people have the point is is to try new stuff
Its sad that people take genuinely good and different mechanics and take it to a new hight,get complain about the game and forget what made the game good in the first place.people just seem to forget whats good after the first hundred hour playtime on games.
@@Singularitytwnobody forgot, yall mfs are dickriding this game so hard. They legit break the game every time they add a patch, they nerf weapons that cost MONEY to get or hours of grinding. While making the enemies tougher
tbh 40k is still pretty chillin. I can still get on every other day and get a lobby almost instantly. I hope it becomes a game that has a long maybe small community : D
If you have crossplay on it’s alive and well. For some reason many PC gamers are just extremely petty and hate on games for the stupidest reasons, majority of the playerbase is on console anyways so it’s whatever.
@@Settiis bro what 😅 I play on PC and my friend group does as well. We have never met someone who doesnt like playing with cross platform on in helldivers... maybe in a game like COD because of the extra tools you get (which is only a problem for most when its pvp, not pve) I think your just swinging at the air with this one
@@FOUR22 No bro that’s not what I meant, I’m saying that many PC gamers like to give games bad reviews for XYZ reason. Like Helldivers 2 isn’t dying in the slightest, even though the steam charts make it seem like that because the PC audience apparently has some issue with the game. I wasn’t personally attacking you or talking about crossplay.
still around 60k total players console + pc included, i still have no problem finding games at all, if you truly enjoy this game theres always people going to play it no matter what
@@TheJestersDoormay I add I hate how people only use one source of data and they just run with it. For example a lot of people use steam player count and somehow think HD2 has only 48k players and considered it a dead game or it's the whole picture ? They don't even consider how tons of other players are also in PlayStation as well
It’s an undeniable fact that all live service games will die someday, some just die slower than others. Which is why I refuse to play a live service game that i have to pay for
@@slappyjo1046fr 40,000 players is still a lot and that’s only on steam probably closer to 100k when you add ps players if it ever comes to Xbox the hype will go right back up
true the release was just at the right time where no new good games were released and people are looking for something new to play. but it would be nice if they kept up with the demand and hired new people to push more content for people to play.
The game has been teasing the Illuminate for way too long. Having only two factions to fight against got boring. Also like you said the nerfs were ridiculous. Instead of figuring out why players liked a specific gun and maybe adding flavor to other guns, they'd nerf it to bring it in-line with other less popular guns. Wut? I still occasionally play with IRL friends but I won't be back consistently until they introduce the Illuminate.
@nahfr. Well yeah, that's how games like this go. People hop back in for new content. I just think it was a mistake to launch with only two enemy factions and then to tease the third for so long. I'll still check it out but it'd have been better for the game for the black hole event to lead straight to the new faction rather than whatever is going on now.
I think they should add different mission types, like invading underground bug bass missions were you invade the direct home of the bugs maybe you go there to put a nuclear bomb and then extract or get some samples or some other stuff OR boarding automatons space ships were you basically hijacked their ship and have shootouts so you can collect data or set up a bomb in their ship in the inside or rescued a important npc who plays a part of the war like a scientist or a war general Also underground missions for the automaton as well Or a missions were the bugs are like in a asteroid filled with bugs going towards a planet and you have a limited amount of time to stop this asteroid from hitting and invading the planet that belongs to super earth and if the hell divers don’t do it in time that planet is controlled by the bugs
Its inane man. Love the game but the community takes all criticism as hate and gets mad. This game has a lot of untapped potential, and a lot of things that have gotten fixed are a result of people criticizing it
I don't interact with the community i am on my own with friends and not caring about what other people think about the nerfs and everything else is nice
After nearly 11 months bg3, a mostly single player game, still has 1/8 of its playerbase, somethings dropping to 1/10…. Meanwhile helldivers 2 after only 5 months as a LIVE service game, has average 1/10 somethings 1/17 of its oh player base
I have no problems with fighting the same enemies for months, and the gameplay loop is inspired. I agree that the nerfs were and are ridiculously bad, the balancing was a terrible idea. But my friends and I still love hopping on and fighting for freedom, regardless of little new content.
Things that can save the game(possibly): new factions, buff weapons, add a mode with bigger map and bigger team(8 to 12 players) add a city area with some broken vehicles we could take(an idea of a human faction would be interesting but still no pvp) maybe add a light air vehicles for bigger maps, every 6 months have the game go on sale for big updates
I also hope they have more factions considering three won’t be enough likes from the first game. I hope they’ve been cooking up several more factions over the eight years of development for this game. I generally hope that this game is successful because is really damn good and personally want to see this my favorite game this year thrive in the future
This entire video can be summed up without even watching it: This is literally just the standard of what happens to coop pve games Every single one of them will have a really big launch, and then as people play it on launch, they drop it after a while LITERALLY every PvE game ever, barring a handful of exceptions, does this The most notable of those exceptions being Left 4 Dead and 2. Because they go on sale for piss cheap, and have been out for 20 years now. Every single other one of them does this. It's literally just how the genre works.
For me it had four reasons: -the nerfs of the weapons -the PSN drama -a small portion of the community that have an IQ as the number of particles in a vacuum -the patrol changes Edit: great video btw.
The core gameplay loop is fun. The balance patch made a lot of weapons much better. They have added new mission types that tie into the story. I had stopped playing as I was capped on everything except level, but they have just added in a new set of ship upgrades so I am back playing. The Sony thing was a massive fumble though, HD2 is still unavailable to purchase in 177 countries, though people who did purchase can still play. Not their friends though :(
The problem with the nerfing is that they nerf way too much. Like guns just aren't allowed to even be decent, outside of some niche ones. And then of course the PSN thing pushed a TON of players away, and on top of that there's just no new big content. They've been teasing vehicles and new factions for months now, and the closest we've gotten to vehicles was the exosuit. The illuminate are supposed to come from meridia, and we have no clue how long it'll take for that to actually happen.
The thing is, its not a dead game yet, their are reasons to why this is happening, but the community is still growing strong. The reason their is this perception is because of mass youtubers making videos, not knowing what they are talking about, just reading a chart are going by their previous experience with the game. Context goes such a long way, which I respect this video for because you give alot of context. Theirs sooooooo many reasons for this drop off, but I think a lot of it is down to lack of content. Nothing major has happened in a little while and people get bored. Do not get me wrong, I love this game and I like horde style shooters, so its perfect for me. But a lot of people come because its popular, and are so use to flowing content that when they dont get it? they get disinterested. But since its a live service game, and the numbers are dropping, thats what people are calling this out for. I guess they are a small studio, did not expect the huge success to begin with and its taking its toll. I reckon this is just the start. Good video though man!:D
they should release the illuminates after their 6 weeks vacation, that would be a good way to bring back the community and to make armor in the cutting edge useful. (in my opinion) Helldivers 2 isn't dead, but isn't as popular is it once was. I'll still keep playing even if we don't get a big update soon.
Considering this was designed around 40k concurrent players total it’s not surprising they didn’t know how to handle over 10 times that amount and especially as a small studio relatively
they should make it where instead of wearing only one type of armor you can wear diffrent helmets, chespeices, arm braces, leggings, etc. and insead of combining passives. combining the armors result in new passives. if you wear all of one armor set then you get the passive it originally comes with.
There’s a reason Valorant / Call of Duty / CS always have hundreds of thousands of players. Shooters are one of the only replayable games. All these type of games / story games are fun for a month. Shooters are the only games that truly last and have players come back EVERY DAY
The easiest way(a lil controversies maybe) for them to make adjustments to balance out metas is 1. add other options 2. Add an attention system, so you can change base functions of weapons without completely removing it. Ofc add trade offs but thats common in most fps
As a guy who worked for a Finnish game company. Lemme tell you. They need to get their summer holiday in. They barely get any sun. However. On the other hand. As a person living in China and experiencing the normalized "crunch" for Chinese devs to produce contents to keep up with the players burn rate... It's not sustainable. It really isn't. Several of my friends working in the industry have decided to quit as the normalized crunch burns them out completely and make them unsanitized to any kind of future games.
I think this game would be able to be the next gta if it was possible for us to explore worlds & colonize it like a minecraft world a mixture of open world, development & creative stuff for you and your friends
It’s because of the summer, People actually have vacations to do, and unless they put it onto Xbox (the place where people still play during the summer) it probably won’t go back to its OG State.
@@gorgistanojevik3196 actually, you’d be surprised, apparently a lot of gamers still go outside, have gatherings, or have vacations. (I’m one of those vacation ones, plus I’m an Xbox gamer.)
As a fellow helldiver’ I do see the lack of content as I have all war bonds and upgrades maxed out only benefit is different store updates on armor sets. But they lost it at the 160 regions that psn locked out of the game
as someone who got the game last month, i think it is still fun. never got a chance to use the op railgun. i still think the railgun is fun for difficulty 8 and under unless you have teammates that can reliably kill all the cannon towers/gun ships/tanks/striders/bile titans for you.
I could not play when it launched and I did not have time to play it, so I was waiting and saved money to buy it, and when I was about to buy the game it was not available in my region. and it still is not available. ...
watching the psn incident in real time among friends and over twitter was tremendous to see, the game seemed mad fun I was maybe a few days off of finally convincing myself to throw the $70 at it so I could play another game with the mates... then the fire nation attacked, everyone in my groups stopped playing, game's still going strong at least, there's still time to catch it
I realize that it's been said and done for a little while, but I think that the thing that pissed people off about the whole PSN account on PC was that when you first booted it up, they didn't strictly tell you it'd be required later. It was a "link this if you'd like, don't worry if you don't." So, like many others, I skipped past it, and didn't think about it again, it was insane that PS came back and thought to completely dismantle what the community made without a PSN account. The crazy thing was, you could still add friends who were on PC and PS if you didn't have a PSN account. They made it such a big deal for no reason.
the main reason i left was because of the crap lobby system, wait to join a game, get kicked the second i load in, walk back and join a mission that has 18 seconds left and once back to the ship the host leaves and i have to walk back to terminal for this to repeat. also nobody uses microphones anymore on a TEAM BASED GAME
I remember that I wanted to buy this game… but then… I got that sense in me that it wasn’t going to be worth it… I literally dodged a bullet by listening to my thoughts.
for me it just gets a bit samey and the grind starts to feel less worth it when you have weapons and strategems that do the job just fine along with very samey feeling maps, missions, and a current lack of post launch content outside new skins and weapons
Helldivers is one of the most fun games I played recently, right there with Battlebit which is sad because both games kinda died due to developers that don't care
Yo I hope you know that what you are doing here is an actual job and you can get paid for your time, amazing video, was not interested in hell divers at all but just hearing you talk about the work that could go into the game and could be seen in the future makes me excited and want to get the game even though ive never played it due to the PSN issues but this is the first time ive heard that you didnt need a PSN account anymore hope hell divers gets the love it deserves and i hope i see more of your content in the future!
personally what i think will revive the game: unblock those 177 countries (yes im coping cus i cant play) and a mega update, tons of new stratagems, new weapons that arent super soakers, new enemy types for both factions maybe even the illuminates instead will revive the game as well as unblocking the countries (copium moment)
I haven't gotten the game yet, I've been dying to play since launch but other things keep taking my money! I'll be buying it soon enough though, I just hope I haven't missed out yet
The balance changes, the Sony stuff (which I didn't get affected by), and I think the Major Orders were getting ridiculous. I think they saw us completing some of them a day or two before the timer was up and made it too hard afterwards. Then combine that with player count going down naturally, it just went down exponentionally.
I left awhile ago. Making guns worse, very grindy, and a clear meta when some of the guns are basically useless. I was on it hard for a month. Id come back if we got vehicles
Did you guys know that this game anticipated no more that 10,000 players at launch. Meaning this game was originally planned for a smaller community anyway. I think is it stayed around 20,000 players that’s enough plus the game doesn’t need a full player base to continue to play anyway. Still a great game to keep in your back pocket for friends. But I mean if 10,000 players is dead than cod and battlefield have been dead for a long time
Even if 10k players is dead (which is not) cod and battlefield have never died, even if I hurts to say CoD and BF still sell hundreds of thousands of copiens whenever a game launches
I stopped playing because when I loaded in I played 5-10 min then all my teammates left simultaneously and it irritated me when I was at level 8 or 9 levels. This would happen multiple times and I got fed up and stopped playing.
To this day I own Helldivers 1 and I wanted to get Helldivers 2 for myself and my GF. Now I can't even get it cause it's not available in my country. Who ever signed off on this at Sony I hope you are fired and homeless. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
Are you guys genuinely brainless? It was "hype" that got the game this amount of players in the first place. The game got an obvious loop so the loop got looped and people got bored and the hype died it should not have been that difficult to see this outcome
To sum up the balancing side of this game: they nerfed a weapon (the railgun) due to a bug where it would 2 shot a bile titan if there was a ps5 player on the team. Yup, they didn't double check or anything, they just assumed the gun was OP and nerfed it into oblivion. And that was just the start of many nerfs...
Idk what yall mean by lost its player base. It's gonna explode again next patch they put out. Like DRG and vermintide/darktide or any other coop game the player base dramatically increases whenever more content gets released
they teased the new faction hella months ago and still have yet to put them out. waiting isnt the issue, its them showing us way too early when it aint even close to being ready for release
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It’s a great game but just so frustrating that it’s just a case of “new enemy types are coming…..eventually”.
Reminds me of the 2000 Darktide players that are left waiting.
Maybe be patient
It hasn’t been a year yet christ. WAR takes time.
@@goofyindividual-pl1bdfor real, and not only that but leakers are still ruining games. Leaking models and sounds months before they are even READY.
Its not a free to play game, it doesnt need constant players. They sold a lot of copies so its a success.
The game needs new enemy types, the illuminate, and new battlenfronts. Im dying to play on a city ruin map and actually feel like im retaking a planet instead of fighting for some barely settled plot of wilderness.
I think what's annoying too is that things like the apc have been done for months but still haven't come out
@@canadiantaxpayer2810 yep
It doesn’t even need this,
The grind just needs to be worth it and actually fun,
8 hours for the new ship upgrades,
8 hours for 8% less explosive drop off damage? Get the fuck out
Maybe some game modes to
I really get that but generating entire cities is wayyy more complicated and difficult than creating simple terrain, if that happens I doubt it will be in the near future. And creating an entire new faction also ain't that easy, especially when you're still doing smaller content drops
I just saw someone in a Helldiver cosplay yesterday and I thought the hype was still alive. Damn
Don't listen to these videos. There was 100k concurrent players yesterday on Playstation alone. The game is thriving.
@@TheJestersDooryeah I was on at like 17:00 and there was 70k on PlayStation
@TheJestersDoorhey braindead specimen, while you're saying "don't listen to these videos" mabye you should
He said 90% of players on PC, not other platforms
And 100k players on playstation isn't thriving lmao, compared to other games and loosing 90% of the pc players, it's a total failure
People over exgerrate dead games, Helldivers isn't dead... it still as an active player base, and great gameplay. We see this happen to almost all games now.
You can't expect people to play the same game consisently all the time. Helldivers did have a few drawbacks though, considering what sony did.
@@Silo-x bruh its not dead, its just not at its peak anymore, 100k on any platform consistently is incredible
They ruined it by nerfing guns and by not adding better guns
Buddy have you not seen the new pach
Al’s big Junie you should know that they are a one hundred developer team and trying to do they best they are and also you should use new weakens and try stuff out and not be use what other people have the point is is to try new stuff
They undid all the nerfs
@@ParisLady15 stop the cap🧢
@@That_lore_guySTOP THE DAMN 🧢🧢🧢
Still one of my favorite games, despite its many flaws.
Its sad that people take genuinely good and different mechanics and take it to a new hight,get complain about the game and forget what made the game good in the first place.people just seem to forget whats good after the first hundred hour playtime on games.
@@Singularitytwnobody forgot, yall mfs are dickriding this game so hard. They legit break the game every time they add a patch, they nerf weapons that cost MONEY to get or hours of grinding. While making the enemies tougher
This happens to apex legends
same
Same can be said for SF6 for me, but so many things kept me from coming back to both games. It got tedious
@@fizz_time7003 what happened to Apex?
tbh 40k is still pretty chillin. I can still get on every other day and get a lobby almost instantly. I hope it becomes a game that has a long maybe small community : D
15k now......
If you have crossplay on it’s alive and well. For some reason many PC gamers are just extremely petty and hate on games for the stupidest reasons, majority of the playerbase is on console anyways so it’s whatever.
@@Settiis bro what 😅 I play on PC and my friend group does as well. We have never met someone who doesnt like playing with cross platform on in helldivers... maybe in a game like COD because of the extra tools you get (which is only a problem for most when its pvp, not pve) I think your just swinging at the air with this one
@@FOUR22 No bro that’s not what I meant, I’m saying that many PC gamers like to give games bad reviews for XYZ reason. Like Helldivers 2 isn’t dying in the slightest, even though the steam charts make it seem like that because the PC audience apparently has some issue with the game. I wasn’t personally attacking you or talking about crossplay.
@eazy261 it's at 25k Lol the in game counter says 43k wtf r u on about?
still around 60k total players console + pc included, i still have no problem finding games at all, if you truly enjoy this game theres always people going to play it no matter what
Exactly. Just brain dead cry babies saying the game is dead. It's not
Nope its noe 30k-40k boy watch closely.
@@willieremboboss there were literally 65k players on this past weekend bro, but go off lmao
@@NotFlighttthose are bot accounts
@@supergoat1507 now you’re just coping
“Helldivers 2 has saved gaming!”
Months later…
“Gaming is dying!”
Anyone that says gaming is dying should be considered brain dead. HD2 is a major success even 5 months after launch.
@@TheJestersDoor agreed
@@TheJestersDoormay I add I hate how people only use one source of data and they just run with it. For example a lot of people use steam player count and somehow think HD2 has only 48k players and considered it a dead game or it's the whole picture ? They don't even consider how tons of other players are also in PlayStation as well
@@TheJestersDoorit’s player base will never get back to 400k
Fascinating argument.
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It’s an undeniable fact that all live service games will die someday, some just die slower than others. Which is why I refuse to play a live service game that i have to pay for
It isn’t even dead
@@slappyjo1046fr 40,000 players is still a lot and that’s only on steam probably closer to 100k when you add ps players if it ever comes to Xbox the hype will go right back up
Yes but this one is a good game, who thinks about this community unlike the others
@@rocketB343s discord wise hell nah and they just nerf everything so i wouldnt claim that
@DarkSlumber the discord doesn't exist don't even think about that discord
It’s not dead tbh this was what it was projected to perform on launch before it exploded unexpectedly
true the release was just at the right time where no new good games were released and people are looking for something new to play. but it would be nice if they kept up with the demand and hired new people to push more content for people to play.
The game has been teasing the Illuminate for way too long. Having only two factions to fight against got boring. Also like you said the nerfs were ridiculous. Instead of figuring out why players liked a specific gun and maybe adding flavor to other guns, they'd nerf it to bring it in-line with other less popular guns. Wut? I still occasionally play with IRL friends but I won't be back consistently until they introduce the Illuminate.
Unfortunately thats how it'll be after a few months of luminate
@nahfr. Well yeah, that's how games like this go. People hop back in for new content. I just think it was a mistake to launch with only two enemy factions and then to tease the third for so long. I'll still check it out but it'd have been better for the game for the black hole event to lead straight to the new faction rather than whatever is going on now.
@@2Foot5 dude yeah i thoigh that was what would happen but instead we get 80 filler mo's that last a whole week
For real 😂
It only has been 7 months chill let them cook 💀
Is left 4 dead dead? Cause it keeps maintaining those 20k for 10+ years
Left 4 Dead is really good, but 20k compared to the high 450k? It's not "Dead", but nowhere near where it was.
I think they should add different mission types, like invading underground bug bass missions were you invade the direct home of the bugs maybe you go there to put a nuclear bomb and then extract or get some samples or some other stuff
OR
boarding automatons space ships were you basically hijacked their ship and have shootouts so you can collect data or set up a bomb in their ship in the inside or rescued a important npc who plays a part of the war like a scientist or a war general
Also underground missions for the automaton as well
Or a missions were the bugs are like in a asteroid filled with bugs going towards a planet and you have a limited amount of time to stop this asteroid from hitting and invading the planet that belongs to super earth and if the hell divers don’t do it in time that planet is controlled by the bugs
The first mission type you've suggested was already a done thing brother.
Honestly thank you so much for bringing all these problems to light the community is so blinded for some reason the glazing for arrowhead is insane
Its inane man. Love the game but the community takes all criticism as hate and gets mad. This game has a lot of untapped potential, and a lot of things that have gotten fixed are a result of people criticizing it
Fascinating argument.
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I don't interact with the community i am on my own with friends and not caring about what other people think about the nerfs and everything else is nice
Oh no 10% of a live service games og playerbase is still here after 6 months what a disaster
They got tired of killing bugs and doing the same objectives
After nearly 11 months bg3, a mostly single player game, still has 1/8 of its playerbase, somethings dropping to 1/10….
Meanwhile helldivers 2 after only 5 months as a LIVE service game, has average 1/10 somethings 1/17 of its oh player base
@@theonesithtorulethemall compare life services to life services man. Most games would kill to keep 10% of their original playerbase.
Cope
Dead game
@@nairbgolden2008 wrong day; escalation of freedom update in like 2 weeks lmao
I have no problems with fighting the same enemies for months, and the gameplay loop is inspired. I agree that the nerfs were and are ridiculously bad, the balancing was a terrible idea.
But my friends and I still love hopping on and fighting for freedom, regardless of little new content.
Things that can save the game(possibly): new factions, buff weapons, add a mode with bigger map and bigger team(8 to 12 players) add a city area with some broken vehicles we could take(an idea of a human faction would be interesting but still no pvp) maybe add a light air vehicles for bigger maps, every 6 months have the game go on sale for big updates
I mean we already know they're working on Illuminate and possibly Cyborg later on as well.
I also hope they have more factions considering three won’t be enough likes from the first game. I hope they’ve been cooking up several more factions over the eight years of development for this game.
I generally hope that this game is successful because is really damn good and personally want to see this my favorite game this year thrive in the future
This entire video can be summed up without even watching it:
This is literally just the standard of what happens to coop pve games
Every single one of them will have a really big launch, and then as people play it on launch, they drop it after a while
LITERALLY every PvE game ever, barring a handful of exceptions, does this
The most notable of those exceptions being Left 4 Dead and 2. Because they go on sale for piss cheap, and have been out for 20 years now.
Every single other one of them does this. It's literally just how the genre works.
Honestly I think the reason how L4D2 is still alive is because of modding, that actually saves games
For me it had four reasons:
-the nerfs of the weapons
-the PSN drama
-a small portion of the community that have an IQ as the number of particles in a vacuum
-the patrol changes
Edit: great video btw.
The core gameplay loop is fun. The balance patch made a lot of weapons much better. They have added new mission types that tie into the story. I had stopped playing as I was capped on everything except level, but they have just added in a new set of ship upgrades so I am back playing. The Sony thing was a massive fumble though, HD2 is still unavailable to purchase in 177 countries, though people who did purchase can still play. Not their friends though :(
The problem with the nerfing is that they nerf way too much. Like guns just aren't allowed to even be decent, outside of some niche ones. And then of course the PSN thing pushed a TON of players away, and on top of that there's just no new big content. They've been teasing vehicles and new factions for months now, and the closest we've gotten to vehicles was the exosuit. The illuminate are supposed to come from meridia, and we have no clue how long it'll take for that to actually happen.
off topic bro this is a really well explained nice to listen to video, just discovered u and subscribed
keep up the good work my g
Most viral games get filled with people who will only play it til the new trend comes out 😂
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40k is still a huge player base. I don't know why people consider games dead if there aren't at least half a million people playing
The thing is, its not a dead game yet, their are reasons to why this is happening, but the community is still growing strong. The reason their is this perception is because of mass youtubers making videos, not knowing what they are talking about, just reading a chart are going by their previous experience with the game. Context goes such a long way, which I respect this video for because you give alot of context. Theirs sooooooo many reasons for this drop off, but I think a lot of it is down to lack of content. Nothing major has happened in a little while and people get bored. Do not get me wrong, I love this game and I like horde style shooters, so its perfect for me. But a lot of people come because its popular, and are so use to flowing content that when they dont get it? they get disinterested. But since its a live service game, and the numbers are dropping, thats what people are calling this out for. I guess they are a small studio, did not expect the huge success to begin with and its taking its toll. I reckon this is just the start. Good video though man!:D
they should release the illuminates after their 6 weeks vacation, that would be a good way to bring back the community and to make armor in the cutting edge useful. (in my opinion) Helldivers 2 isn't dead, but isn't as popular is it once was. I'll still keep playing even if we don't get a big update soon.
Considering this was designed around 40k concurrent players total it’s not surprising they didn’t know how to handle over 10 times that amount and especially as a small studio relatively
Great video totally agree, it's good to see a TH-camr actually talking sense about this game. Keep up the good work 👍
Fascinating argument.
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they should make it where instead of wearing only one type of armor you can wear diffrent helmets, chespeices, arm braces, leggings, etc. and insead of combining passives. combining the armors result in new passives. if you wear all of one armor set then you get the passive it originally comes with.
There’s a reason Valorant / Call of Duty / CS always have hundreds of thousands of players. Shooters are one of the only replayable games. All these type of games / story games are fun for a month. Shooters are the only games that truly last and have players come back EVERY DAY
bet you arrow head saw this vid since they just added 5 crazy good upgrades to the ship that you can get
The easiest way(a lil controversies maybe) for them to make adjustments to balance out metas is 1. add other options 2. Add an attention system, so you can change base functions of weapons without completely removing it. Ofc add trade offs but thats common in most fps
As a guy who worked for a Finnish game company. Lemme tell you. They need to get their summer holiday in. They barely get any sun. However. On the other hand. As a person living in China and experiencing the normalized "crunch" for Chinese devs to produce contents to keep up with the players burn rate... It's not sustainable. It really isn't. Several of my friends working in the industry have decided to quit as the normalized crunch burns them out completely and make them unsanitized to any kind of future games.
I think this game would be able to be the next gta if it was possible for us to explore worlds & colonize it like a minecraft world a mixture of open world, development & creative stuff for you and your friends
It’s because of the summer, People actually have vacations to do, and unless they put it onto Xbox (the place where people still play during the summer) it probably won’t go back to its OG State.
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@@CyberLou ODST has been resupplied, preparing to recruit more to the Xbox cause. The UNSC Thanks you and the rest of the helldivers for your work!
People play more during summer what you on about
@@gorgistanojevik3196 actually, you’d be surprised, apparently a lot of gamers still go outside, have gatherings, or have vacations. (I’m one of those vacation ones, plus I’m an Xbox gamer.)
1:39 this shit caught me off guard and I can’t stop laughing 😂
They have been edging us too much with the illuminates and hive lords, to the point where I'm not even hard anymore.
Weak. You can't edge for months and months with no clear climax in sight?
@@-jax-3631 no because sadly i broke my mewing streak, i need to lock in
As a fellow helldiver’ I do see the lack of content as I have all war bonds and upgrades maxed out only benefit is different store updates on armor sets. But they lost it at the 160 regions that psn locked out of the game
Deciding to revisit Helldivers with my buddy.
Its sad to see a game I would want to revisit in the future seemingly die.
its not dead, its really easy to find matches. 30 thousand isn't a small number of people
stooop dont kill me bro had me twikin
as someone who got the game last month, i think it is still fun. never got a chance to use the op railgun. i still think the railgun is fun for difficulty 8 and under unless you have teammates that can reliably kill all the cannon towers/gun ships/tanks/striders/bile titans for you.
I could not play when it launched and I did not have time to play it,
so I was waiting and saved money to buy it, and when I was about to buy the game it was not available in my region.
and it still is not available. ...
watching the psn incident in real time among friends and over twitter was tremendous to see, the game seemed mad fun I was maybe a few days off of finally convincing myself to throw the $70 at it so I could play another game with the mates... then the fire nation attacked, everyone in my groups stopped playing, game's still going strong at least, there's still time to catch it
“ Now its a ghosts town “
The rolf meme went in hard
I dont know for me it was the lack of new stuff releasing. Sooo many leaks out there but nothing happening.
I realize that it's been said and done for a little while, but I think that the thing that pissed people off about the whole PSN account on PC was that when you first booted it up, they didn't strictly tell you it'd be required later. It was a "link this if you'd like, don't worry if you don't." So, like many others, I skipped past it, and didn't think about it again, it was insane that PS came back and thought to completely dismantle what the community made without a PSN account. The crazy thing was, you could still add friends who were on PC and PS if you didn't have a PSN account. They made it such a big deal for no reason.
the main reason i left was because of the crap lobby system, wait to join a game, get kicked the second i load in, walk back and join a mission that has 18 seconds left and once back to the ship the host leaves and i have to walk back to terminal for this to repeat. also nobody uses microphones anymore on a TEAM BASED GAME
great video man, keep it up.👍
Dawg I haven’t even been able to play it yet. Waiting so long cause I hear so many good things about it and before I can even try it out it’s dead 😢
it has 30k people rn, it's fine and not dead
It was inevitable that this game was going to die down
the way they old yeller every new DECENT weapon after not even the first week of it's existence is so obnoxious bro
have u ever used the scorcher, incinderiary shotgun or sickle?
It’s summer, all games lose a big majority of their player base. Look at every game’s player audience in the summer time
I remember that I wanted to buy this game… but then… I got that sense in me that it wasn’t going to be worth it… I literally dodged a bullet by listening to my thoughts.
If Super Earth got attack, that is where I'll be back
Wasn't it the middle of March when all this shit with Sony went down or am I just imagining things?
I genuinely thought we’d get the new faction quickly after launch and I’ve been waiting ever since.
for me it just gets a bit samey and the grind starts to feel less worth it when you have weapons and strategems that do the job just fine along with very samey feeling maps, missions, and a current lack of post launch content outside new skins and weapons
For me I just got to the point where I feel like I tried everything I wanted and all the maps kinda just feel the same tbh and I got bored
How could someone forget about the slugger?
Its not over bruh, it just got normal. The only thing thats over is the hype.
Helldivers is one of the most fun games I played recently, right there with Battlebit which is sad because both games kinda died due to developers that don't care
Yo I hope you know that what you are doing here is an actual job and you can get paid for your time, amazing video, was not interested in hell divers at all but just hearing you talk about the work that could go into the game and could be seen in the future makes me excited and want to get the game even though ive never played it due to the PSN issues but this is the first time ive heard that you didnt need a PSN account anymore hope hell divers gets the love it deserves and i hope i see more of your content in the future!
personally what i think will revive the game: unblock those 177 countries (yes im coping cus i cant play) and a mega update, tons of new stratagems, new weapons that arent super soakers, new enemy types for both factions maybe even the illuminates instead will revive the game as well as unblocking the countries (copium moment)
I haven't gotten the game yet, I've been dying to play since launch but other things keep taking my money! I'll be buying it soon enough though, I just hope I haven't missed out yet
The railgun was only op because not enough weapons had armour pen while not requiring team reloads
The balance changes, the Sony stuff (which I didn't get affected by), and I think the Major Orders were getting ridiculous. I think they saw us completing some of them a day or two before the timer was up and made it too hard afterwards. Then combine that with player count going down naturally, it just went down exponentionally.
They took this personally...
Bro i cant even play helldivers in my country i was abt to buy it but the next day it says on steam my country was blocked
I left awhile ago. Making guns worse, very grindy, and a clear meta when some of the guns are basically useless. I was on it hard for a month. Id come back if we got vehicles
Did you guys know that this game anticipated no more that 10,000 players at launch. Meaning this game was originally planned for a smaller community anyway. I think is it stayed around 20,000 players that’s enough plus the game doesn’t need a full player base to continue to play anyway. Still a great game to keep in your back pocket for friends. But I mean if 10,000 players is dead than cod and battlefield have been dead for a long time
Even if 10k players is dead (which is not) cod and battlefield have never died, even if I hurts to say CoD and BF still sell hundreds of thousands of copiens whenever a game launches
It got old. The gameplay loop is the same. I’ll get back on when they bring new planets and the illuminates. Other than that it’s dead.
Escalation of Freedom is probably bringing them back
I stopped playing because when I loaded in I played 5-10 min then all my teammates left simultaneously and it irritated me when I was at level 8 or 9 levels. This would happen multiple times and I got fed up and stopped playing.
The nerf of the eruptor got me to stop fighting bugs. To me it was the only fun way to fight them as I have always preferred the bot front.
To this day I own Helldivers 1 and I wanted to get Helldivers 2 for myself and my GF. Now I can't even get it cause it's not available in my country. Who ever signed off on this at Sony I hope you are fired and homeless. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
Helldivers got Rainbow seige 6 balancing
Are you guys genuinely brainless? It was "hype" that got the game this amount of players in the first place. The game got an obvious loop so the loop got looped and people got bored and the hype died it should not have been that difficult to see this outcome
I like the vid, and u remind me of coryxkenshin lmao
Miss that dude frfr
the performance has become so abysmal that i cant even play it anymore
Great video bro
Their idea if adding a new weapon pass each month doesn't work, since the already very underwhelming and weak weapon pool just gets diluted further
Constant nerfs and lack of actual additions you can earn without tedious grind is what killed this game.
50k players is still really big and thriving
This is honestly the most unbiased and reasonable take for hd2. So disappointing, but still had so much fun
To sum up the balancing side of this game: they nerfed a weapon (the railgun) due to a bug where it would 2 shot a bile titan if there was a ps5 player on the team. Yup, they didn't double check or anything, they just assumed the gun was OP and nerfed it into oblivion. And that was just the start of many nerfs...
every games player count looks like this in the summer
You deserve more subs man
railgun nerf really cooked everything
Once the power creep was patched, I stopped playing sadly.
I mean… 40k is still wild. Dead games barely be pushing 5k players
As a titanfall 2 player 40k players is an inconceivable amount lmao
We don’t speak about the creek
even thought there is alot flaws i will stay to the end
Idk what yall mean by lost its player base. It's gonna explode again next patch they put out. Like DRG and vermintide/darktide or any other coop game the player base dramatically increases whenever more content gets released
The nerfs were getting silly at one point. That was about the only frustrating thing. Still playing pretty much everyday
they teased the new faction hella months ago and still have yet to put them out. waiting isnt the issue, its them showing us way too early when it aint even close to being ready for release
6:22 how the hell does a game get removed in Antarctica
Yep, downfall started with the Railgun.