Fixing two screw holes in copper pipe!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.พ. 2024
- Fixing 2 holes a carpenter made why screwing the floor boards down!
Couldn’t have been in a worse place as it was on the joist timber! Using some techniques I was confident to solder the fitting that close.
When doing repairs like this you need to make sure the pipework is as prepped as it could be!
Safe soldering and keep water and fire extinguishers close by
For anyone interested in the flexible bucket, it's a Der Blaue flexible bucket.
Do they have a US retailer? Or do they ship to US if you know?
Thanks
Remove it whilst soldering unless you want a hole in it..
To expensive for what it is!
@@MrB3ngy They have patches in case you do but yeah remove it
You catch water and prevent potential fire the most of a lot of people I watch do videos like this. Not to say they dont do a good job, but I applaud you for doing the most. It shows thought and care.
I try to treat customers homes like my own pal 👊👊👊
@@mmplumber
Why do you wipe the joint with flux after you are done soldering it? You should not do that because it will make it corrode.
@@GhostbannedbyYT
You responded to my comment, but I noticed that you were not able to answer my question either about why he would wipe the joint with the flux after soldering it. Wiping some of the flux off with a rag does not prevent the flux from causing corrosion on the joint. The only way to stop the flux from corroding the joint is to reheat the joint back up to the temperature necessary to melt the solder.
Again...why do an extra step that does no good and actually causes the joint to corrode?
@@GhostbannedbyYT
You might be able to wipe most of the excess off, but there is still enough residue left on the joint to cause corrosion. And once again I noticed that you were not able to answer my question about why he would do it in the first place.
@@GhostbannedbyYT
It sounds as if you are confused about flux. If you believe that flux should be added after the joint is soldered, then you really have no clue what flux is for and how it should be used. I have copied and pasted some information below for you to read and hopefully learn a little bit.
"What is Flux & How Does It Work?
Flux is a chemical compound that helps prepare the metal surfaces for soldering by removing oxides, promoting wetting, and enhancing the flow of solder. It typically comes in the form of a paste, liquid, or core within the solder wire. The flux compound contains active ingredients, such as rosin or organic acids, that react with the oxides on the metal surface.
When heated, the flux activates and starts to remove the oxides, preventing them from interfering with the soldering process. The flux also promotes wetting, which is the ability of the molten solder to spread and adhere to the metal surfaces. By reducing the surface tension of the solder, flux ensures that it flows smoothly and evenly, creating strong and reliable solder joints.
Additionally, flux helps prevent the re-formation of oxides during soldering by creating a protective barrier on the metal surfaces. This barrier shields the freshly cleaned metal from the surrounding atmosphere, preventing rapid oxidation and ensuring a clean and reliable solder joint."
So to summarize for you, flux should be used before you solder a joint, not afterwards.
And just to let you know that I have never used shark bites and I will never use them. I have also replaced all of the copper pipes in my house and none of my soldered joints have leaked.
It's good to see the guy puts something to deaden the sound of the pipe expansion noise on the floor joist.
Me the internet plumbing master:
I WOULD have used a chainsaw and a flat head shovel but I guess his way works too 😅
It's to catch water and stop a fire
@@xdeadwrongxdeadwrong7181I would've just told them to scrap the whole property and build new. Shout out to to plumbers. 💪🏽
@@bowlerfamily not the flexible bucket, the small piece of insulation he installs between the copper and joist
Loving the use of the trowel - sometimes the right tool for the job is the one you happen to have handy!
I would have fitted a metal plate across the recess to protect that pipe. Very neat work. You must have been a carpenters mate in a previous life..!
Agreeed!!!! NAILL PLATES!!!
Yes go buy a couple nail plates for sure. Did have an idiot with a drill once get a screw by one but he missed the wires by 1/2in.
Screw won’t even know the plate is there
@@mikeryan6277 if the guy goes through the nail plates he shouldn’t be in the construction field.
@nusretmetjajic792 You're right. Unfortunately, there are a lot of stupid, unqualified, and lazy people in the building trades.
In this instance, it appears that a nail punctured that water line. A nail plate probably would have prevented it.
Love seeing someone solder rather than crimping. No skill required to crimp its like getting a sparky to plug your cooker in instead of hard wiring it😂 well done mate great content
Very little skill in soldering either
@@interabang depends who’s doing it, from that statement I imagine you’ve got the “it’s getting lagged anyway” mentality
@@frankievaughan8530 Exactly, you "imagine" you know FA in reality. The lagging is to stop the pipe knocking btw
I have been soldering for 30 years, but Propress is a lot faster, and you don't have to worry about water in the pipes. It also has a 50 year warranty. It's the same as the sweat fittings. Either way, I'll be long gone before then.
@@billjordan8779hahaha fuck yeah dude. This one put a smile on my face. I'll be gone before it's my problem again! And I think if one way works for some and one way works for others then what's then big deal? Everyone's got their preference right?
Plumbing is such a beautiful profession, i cant stop watching these videos
As a retired HVAC man I miss soldering and brazing copper pipe a lot. 👍
I was always taught never to cool off your joints as that can cause the solder to crack and leak later.
15 mm pipe leave it 10 seconds and you should be ok I used to make apprentices count out loud to get into the habit
Great advice
You can after waiting a little, but using the flux isn't the best way. A damp cotton cloth is fine
@@alt7244 expensive way to do it pal and your making more work in the clean up
@@andyparky2716 using a damp cloth is expensive? Really? Harder clean up? Ohhhhhkay
The brick trowel was genius
Completely unnecessary if you know how to control your torch
@@creativesuit1930and a good idea for the rest of us
@frederickvanpelt6393 maybe grab a fire extinguisher too in that case 😁
Damm! I love the plumber's trowel.
Excellent work. I drilled through a hidden hot supply the other day while installing a gas cooker. Metal cutting multi tool blade saved the day.
Life saver tools mate!
I bet. They look REALLY handy. I've seen all sorts of tips/blades they can use
The Milwaukee nitrous carbide metal blades are hands down my go to now. They last a long time.
Stop rubbing flux on the hot joint, it shocks the cooling metal which weakens the solder joint and leads to future issues. Let it cool naturally and clean after.
10 seconds is enough then a damp rag no flux
I can't imagine why anybody would ever rub flux on a joint after the fact I was taught to always rub the joint down after its soldered and get any excess flux off of it
@@iveneverhadabadday the reason he is doing it is because the flux can help clean all the oxidation and such off leaving it looking clean and pretty. But you are correct you must clean after with a damp rag or else corrosion will happen leading to pinholes.
@@andyparky2716 thing was still sizzling when he did it. depending on the copper thickness and pipe size, using a blind rule like 10 seconds will lead to problems. Just do all your joints then go back to the beginning after and clean em, guaranteed no issues then.
22 and under your fine mate in my experience but you are correct in that you should try and do a run of joints if possible it's just way more efficient
On that joist is the only place where tectite couplers are handy.
glad to see the skill of soldering is not lost. None of those rubbish clamping.
Don't get me wrong...some of the better plumbing I have seen online. However, the flux afterwards. I can't stand. 1) unless you wipe it good enough it turns green. 2) you are sanding it afterwards so it gonna look good. & 3) there is truly no need. It doesn't enhancing or make better. Other than my personal preferences lol. The best plumbing so far on you tube that I seen.
Seriously impressed with how you cut it on a joist & near a skirting & repair it there 👏
Thanks buddy! Not the first or last time I bet 😂😂
@@mmplumberI know nothing of plumbing firstly, did the join need to be in the joist and not a cpl inches along to make your life easier?
Probably a simple explanation .
@@turbogigwoof2321I'm not a licensed plumber but had been a maintenance tech for 12 years awhile ago. I definitely would have cut out a better place to sweat that.
@@turbogigwoof2321 It's really quick, but there's a hole in the pipe at the joist near the wall. He had to cut it there.
I know nothing about this type of work but was just curious. After cutting the pipe do you really not clean the shavings out of the pipe before adding the connectors?
I once screwed through a copper pipe similar to the video. All i used was the inner tube from bicycle tyre to wrap it as "bandage". 11 years later in 2024, not a single drop has ever dripped.
Why is the space under the floor empty? Shouldn’t it have floor nails, plaster, paper and the lead pipe from when it had gas lighting :D
And loads of loose lengths of copper cable and sleeving from the rewire job !!😅😂
Where the heck you live bro!
Englandshire @@carpentryfirst3048
And bits of smashed up floorboard
And sparks leftovers: snickers rappers; cut cable and loose change [they only like folding money] 😂
That trowel usage is genius.
I thought the same thing
I hate doing plumbing. But I’m starting to hate it less watching your videos. Keep up the good work 👍
I dig that blanket thing. Looks really handy for any type plumbing in confined areas. I'd like to get one now !
It’s a heat proof mat. You can also get cooling gel which is great if working near other joints and or where the pipe is in contact with flammable materials like wood etc.
Monument do a good one with a slit and hole in the middle so you can properly wrap it around a pipe in a tight space
I was more interested in the bendy bucket. I want one of those. 😊
My one sets on fire occasionally so make sure you get a good quality one 😂
Love the insulating masonry trowel! I’m impressed with your soldering technique……
Shoulda had nail plates over the pipe where it crossed the wood.
Haha, brings back memories of a buddy putting down flooring. He accidentally put a nail through a pipe. Pulled the flooring up, repaired the pipe, put the flooring down and as he did, he put another nail through the same pipe. It was not a good day for him. 😂
Don’t flux the hot fitting! Let it cool. A wise old plumber once said to me…..”if you can’t hold your hand on it, walk away”. I’m now that wise old plumber and the sage advice hasn’t changed. Then again, neither has soldering copper pipe 😉
I agree with you a thousand percent but even more so than just cooling it down why why why why why why put flux on a joint after it's been sold I was taught that we should always wipe off any excess flux to be sure that the acid doesn't continue to eat the copper years later
It's an edited cut 🤦
@@rachbatten so? Why is he applying flux afterwards, what sense does it make??
Nail plates over the area would prevent it from happening again.
Nice. Did something similar in my house (diy). Bathroom rip out... 17 years previously... nicked the pipe.
Eventually a fine spray comes out, ceiling below all pink. Cut open the plaster board and soldered in a new bit just like that.
These jobs are very satisfying 😊
I would think that would be rather frustrating.
@@jimmski9908 Every cloud. Gave me the impetus to fit down lights, had the ceiling boarded over which got rid of the 90s artex I hate.
Ahhh, the good old days when floor joists just got in the way of the plumber, so they cut them!
Excellent!
You have some absolute belters comment on ur videos 😂 great content mate
It took a second view to understand why the second cut was where it was (thinking it was pinhole freeze damage). Excellent continuous repair!
Please note the typical wood butchery of the joists by a prior plumber.
I would have personally cut directly over the nail hole and just used one coupling. That would’ve saved messing about cutting the pipe and adding an additional joint. 🤷🏼♂️
Plus you don’t need to rub flux over it, once the solder has taken
This was my first thought.
Title: " Fixing _two_ screw holes..."
There was one at each joist, so either way, it would have needed two couplers.
He put flux on it and whipped it down afterwards to clean up his work..
The flux cleans the copper then wipe it off afterwards
@@strongstories3183 I know what putting flux on the pipe does afterwards but the idea of the flux is to make the solder run, not to clean up the pipe afterwards. Flux is corrosive and if you miss any, you’re going To increase the chances of the pipe corroding in a non-visible place under the floorboards.
Oh the things I've used to stop the torch burning the painted skirting!! 😅😂
How about a safe plate added to avoid future nails
Metal plate above slot protects pipe
You forgot your protective cover plates over the wood.....😮
Tough one, well done.
Beautiful work but I have a problem with how closely it installed to the subfloor. It can be hit very easy by a nail or screw ..
Finally someone doing "everything" correct- even soldered n not that half ass crimp tool that most buy cheap o's
What about the flux applied afterwards?
Nicely done
See brick layers you can become a plumber too! 😊
great to see a skilled tradesman at work.
Thanks 👍
That bucket is sweet
and you still left them unprotected. lol.
Why not sweat the coupling on the cut by the wall onto your new straight piece before putting it in? That way its only 1 side to do in place and a little shorter time to worry about the heat damage.
Put a steel plate over the copper pipe in the wooden beam to protect it.
Craftsmanship
Mark on the floor board that there is a pipe under it to save future accidents.
Water line under a floor
Now that's convenient lol
good job cleaning the flux off, I am coming back and having to redo all the joints in a mees of 90's and t's in my basement because the copper pipes are leaking from the corrosion the flux has caused over the last 45 years becaue they did not do it when it was installed, Must have been a Friday or a Monday
I realized something that in almost all of videos when people are fixing copper pipes no one uses insulation on pipes, is it because the are that piping are going insulated?
Instead of welding near the woods can be used brass compression fittings!!!
This is obviously a old house, this type of plumbing is nonexistent in today’s framing. With that being said I would have put a nail plate in, to prevent exactly what happened.
I was thinking the same. Problem is that pipe runs right against the flooring all the way through, little plates on joists do nothing
I think it's screws. A screw would have already gone through the floorboards before it gets the nail plate, wouldn't be surprised if it would go straight through.
Copper plumbing is still used all the time in new homes, especially in large cities where rats are prevalent. Some cities still require cast drains for the same reason.
I like that blanket I wish more plumbers would use it.
Good job 👏 👍
Plus for wrap pipe at the end
Thankyou for not using that compression garbage
Proper job😊
Beautiful work!
Oh a plumber, not a crimp king.😂
Great job on the repair but why in the world was a pipe ran like that to begin with lol
Love the bucket and I love the flame retardant patch there
😮 that looks like it was a very complicated job.
It wasn’t simple
Also how to wreck the structure of the floor/basement ceiling
Whatever happened to going through the centre of a joist?
That first solder joint 😮
Nice masonry trowel.
Solder, the way a craftsman repairs a problem.
Nail plates after the work would be nice to see.
Is it enough to torch the pipe on the one side?
Nice work 🙌
Beautiful!
Well done
not bad but it's probably a bad idea to solder over your little water basin. A drop of hot solder falls on that and melts a hole in it.
Almost a perfect job. He forgot to place a metal barrier on top of the pipe but oh well I guess that just means job security for him.😂😂
Complete kit with malleable collection tub and cordless pump system
Floorboards should always be marked with pipe runs to avoid that sort of incident.
You mean they should add nail plates?
@@RJ-uu9mh Both.
Homeowner or gc probably said they will add the nail plates after hes done. But this is why the Pipes dont go so close to the edges!
I never put them in but I agree
This is really quality work. I’d hire you
Ah yes, ye ole’ oscillating tool
Careful on copper, I’ve stuck a blade on and it vibrated the pipe and broke a solder joint before!
But, Right tool here. Good repair!
Can I ask a dumb question… is it a flux like material that you apply to the pipe that allows the solder to run in and seal the pipe (as you can’t seem to solder from both sides?)
Yes, it is plumbing flux. Flux is necessary when soldering copper. It removes oxides and wicks, or pulls the solder in the joint.
@@JordanWatson-bz4fb thanks mate!
What Jordan said 👍
What Jodan said, plus it smells good.
Smells like . . . victory.
Glad you asked this I was wondering about the underneath as they didn’t solder it. Always learning
I used to get a job like that every Friday afternoon .
courtesy of Jim the Joiner ! lol
Why cut the pipe in the middle of the joist by the wall when you could cut it between? The hole was obviously in the middle of the second joist. Also, cutting copper with that saw makes a rough interior leading to turbulence and premature failure.
High nevel man , buen trabajo ,i like...
Walter White must have watched this when he started to copy it.
I shudder to think how many times I've had to do that job, ........... and when replacing the floorboards after me, a good few ''chippies'' have spiked the pipe AGAIN!
Don't forget the nailer plates after.
Excess flux turns green and corrodes the copper
Well done!
Bro, don’t acid brush, heat from the bottom, use nail plates
It’s an exhibition fight, fine print says no knockouts. It’s all for the dollars!
Proper nice job.
OK that was fin badass bro srsly
You the man if I would have done that I would have the nine and the one already pushed on my phone
Why do your local builders run pipe so deep under a floor with nail/screw fastening systems? Those pipes are 1/2 inch deep in an 8 inch cavity! Why not put them so shallow they touch the flooring system above?
Gute Arbeit. Er kann es! 👍 ✅
I did not know that an oscillating tool could cut copper.
Yeah they got all types of carbide heads for them. They can be a lifesaver 😂
Nice job done