Happy to see this video being well-received. Actually didn't think it would get this much interest. I really just did a comparison video for the sake of comparison. No intention to really drag down MegaMix in any way. When compared to the other games, the lighting in MegaMix is certainly lacking. However, I still think MegaMix is completely fine. Side by side with others, negatives can be seen. Sill, the game on its own has been enjoyable for me.
Honestly, I like the way MegaMix looks. I always preferred the less... doll like... look of PD F, personally. While MegaMix goes a bit far to the other extreme, in some cases it really works. Heavily shadowed settings, like ODDS & ENDS don't mix well with it at all, not going to even pretend, but other, brighter environments really mesh so good. Eh, Ah, Sou? is one where the shading really popped out with the rest of the environment. Sekiranun Graffiti is another. It just really depends on the setting itself whether the shading looks weird or not. Fun fact though, the models are really just reshaded versions of the Future Tone models! Now I'm going back to playing. They just released packs 4 and 5 yesterday!
shes so BRIGHT oml (but srsly thx for this comparison i never thought we’d be doing diva comparisons again but here we are) the lighting looks the coolest in ft (duh) but f has that anime style that i always like to look at, all of them look pretty good its just that mega39s looks so BRIGHT
Rip the lighting and shadows on Miku for Mega mix, she just looks so bright and out of place in the darker environments in this song due to the change to a more anime artstyle and hardware limitations. I'm still getting the mega mix tho as I feel the portability just barely balances out the negatives.
i wouldn't say its hardware limitations considering the 3rd panel Project Diva F is also a Vita title and can be seen close to the shown one (that is the ps4 edition) this might be a case of just artistic design where they wanted Miku to always be bright as if she herself is a beacon of light
@@kyestar88 i wouldnt say lazy tbh since this game is just an experiment so they put less effort onto it. If its successful they'll release a new one on switch if it flopped at least they didnt spend alot of money on it. In my opinion I like bright miku. She is just too cute
@@frain_breeze1707 i respect your opinion but i still prefer project diva f/f2 over mega39 toon shader😏. So project diva f,f2 and X will be my miku portable experience and my ps4 would be for my full HD graphic miku experince. hatsune miku Future Tone>Miku f/f2&X >mega39
I feel like they should've given the cel shading to the environments in Mega39's. As others have said, Miku look out of place as if the lighting the environment doesn't match her. Still a fun game tho. The important part is how fun the songs are to play.
FT: either too dark or too bright, 3d model looks kinda plastic-ey, excess of shade MM: looks like a cartoon in a photorealistic environment, which doesnt look *horrible*, too little shade F: just the right amount of shade, blends perfectly, 10/10
Okay in Megamix, it's like she has a constant spotlight on her XD She kinda sticks out a bit more in her environment, and at times not in a good way. Makes me wish they got an entirely new playlist for megamix. I know a lot want some returning songs, but with the new toon-like shading, I think new environments would have been a better choice to use than just directly porting it. They got away with it between F and FT because of the lighting and textures, so it saved them time. I really like the new shading for Megamix but... to see it like this, it feels like they were just cutting corners. And that's a feeling I do not like since I LOVE Project diva!
Other than the limitations the Megamix might have in Switch, I feel like the lighting and shading on the models... works and doesn’t work at the same time (all depending on whatever scene is playing out of course!). It does look more anime-ish which makes me nostalgic from the days I’ve played the PSP entry but I do feel like the lack of shading (in some scenes) makes them pop out more where it makes sense like in 1:01 considering where the light source is and how Miku is casting the shadow in Megamix compared to Future Tone. It works in its own way but seeing them side by side really has you seeing the major differences.
I'm probably getting it anyways cause I hate my wallet and having money, but honestly, the draw to 39s/MegaMix just isn't there. It would be one thing if it was almost just a worse graphical port of Future Tone, but it is just a not good idea overall unless you're really hell-bent on getting those new songs.
Mega 39 has a demo. Not many people have mentioned it but there is a demo in the Japan store. It includes common world domination (or something like that) and Romeo and Cinderella. It includes both game modes for the songs and difficulty is up to hard. It includes only the two extra modules (the song specific), the 6 vocaloids (all in original except meiko if I recall just like x) and it doesn't allow to swap head modules but the real game does. You can still change the icons, and allthough not a complain but if you played any of the f, f2nd, x or arcade ports, the x button might complicate you as the x in ps and switch are in different position so if you really struggle to remember the buttons swap them to arrows. PV mode is in the demo too and its very light when talking about size. If you can't read basics of the online store in Japanese just remember that the big button is to purchase and the lower smaller is to download the demo.
My personal rankings of these #1:Project Diva Future Tone(I usually like F/F2nd's version better than FT's version in these videos.It's just in this video I feel like the lighting is slightly better in FT) #2:Project Diva F #3:Project Diva Mega39s(While i do like the new shader they added in this game,it just doesn't suit this song well because of how bright it is here)
they had to cut down the graphics to maintain playable framerate and compare to the PS4, the switch is nowhere near poweful. But when playing in handheld mode, it looks great though
@@majinkz but they had to cut down for framerate and battery life. We dont know if the switch could hold up with the ps4 graphics or not because the developer never say anything about that. Everything is just theory
Love the cel shader for Miku herself in MegaMix but I like the environments from F and FT (FT's slightly more because that lighting/shadow effect ROCKS).
Megamix model looks too bright and out of place in this specific song. In all others i've see, 100% prefer the megamix art style to the "realistic" future tone ( looks great at some shots, but too plastic-y and "doll"-looking otherwise)
Project Diva F models with FT hair and clothes physics= best miku. Honestly if they had done that instead it would look a lot better. I know the only reason they did the shader is so people didnt feel ripped off for buying the same exact game...but i dont think this looks that good tbh.
Megamix is actually good, people said that "FT Graphics are better! " Or "It's not realistic!" Wait a minute... So these people are actually focused on Miku or they're focused on the game? When we play the game what we focus on is the gameplay actually. And both gameplays are the same tho, just the graphic thing. This is my opinion k e
I don’t like future tone for how realistic it is. F is is probably the best looking one out of all of them because mega mix is too bright. That’s my only problem. I really wish they would bring back the old model for miku that’s in project diva f because it just looks so much better.
I appreciate that they went for cell shaded instead of the uncanny doll-like hyperrealism Future Tone had going, but holy cow how lacking can that shader be that it can't even deal with backlighting and dim settings? The oldest one shouldn't be the best looking one.
I play megamix and it is a very good game, but I do agree that they should work on the lighting. I think one of the reasons they use toon shader is for less space since the switch only has 30 gigs but I'm not sure
I would always say I wanted to see one of these that show the song from EVERY SINGLE GAME (even the Mirai series) but then I realized the song that's been in the most games is I think Ievon Polkka. it was in the first game as a song. I don't know if it was in project diva 2nd or project diva extend. I don't know if it was in the arcade version of the first project diva game, but it probably does since it's an arcade version of the first game which had Ievon Polkka. And it was in project diva F as a tutorial. It was in project diva F 2nd as a tutorial I think. It was in Project diva X as a tutorial I think. and it was probably in Project diva f the PS Vita version of Project Diva F and. Since it was projected diva F 2nd then I think the PS Vita version of Project Diva F 2nd also had it. And it might have been in project diva dreamy theater since it's a PS3 version of the first game which had it. I don't think it's in project diva dreamy theater 2nd or project diva dreamy theater extend because it's the PS3 version of project diva 2nd and project diva extend which I don't think had it. and project diva arcade future tone had it and so did the ps4 port of project diva future tone. I think project diva future tone and arcade future tone had Ievon Polkka as a tutorial and a playable song. and megamix Im pretty sure has it too. I don't think any of the Mirai series had it though
I’m not sure why they make miku so bright in mega mix when they can just shade like they did in ft like in sadists music factory the shading and lighting is so good with ft but on mega mix they didn’t do that at all.
if they messed with the toon shader for megamix and allowed it to go darker, I think it would work way better. I think this comparison definitley shows it the most. Athough there are some mvs where i Prefer megamix being brighter and more colorful, I think ft has the edge because of the detailed lighting.
I think F and F2nd did these looks the best. They're perfectly balanced between the toony style and realistic style. It's not too flat, but still not as dramatically "realistic".
I think the og and future tone have better detail, but megamix makes Miku way more visible. Especially with such a dark background, it's important to make sure she's contrasting the background. Sometimes looks weird, but I understand the choice.
Am I the only one who loves the future tone ver? I feel like the shading and atmosphere is extremely well done on that version Even if the hair physics are wack
Bottom left is best for wide shots duiie to the colouring. But top left, close up are really realistic and I really like it. Top right the colours are just too blown out.
The lighting sucks in Mega 39s, but I think it’s my second favorite after F. I love the FT graphics but I feel like the cartoonish charm of Mega 39s and F/X series keep the charm of Vocaloids-real voices, but just characters.
I love how these games are different in a way since that's the point in making another game XD honestly, everyone have a different way to have fun and enjoy these games, so there is one for everyone. Every pv has a way to be able to perceive things and enjoy it's quality.
Mega mix should’ve at least had project F shading. It would also be nice if the texture of her costumes would be visible like in Future tone. I also sorta like project f Miku model a lil bit more than the rest. She looks a little bit more anime-ish and it’s just nostalgic that way.
Am I the only one who noticed the extraction of light from Miku's eyes in DIVA F at 2:57? They only seem to do this kinda stuff in the F series and maybe in X and I wish they could do that again in the games after! (No, the extraction of light from the characters' eyes when they look in a reflection doesn't count.)
i feel this brightness issue is made for the switch for a reason. Since the console in handheld would kinda be difficult to balance between the tv mode and its native (720p?) resolution? as the game would be harder to see in bright light i think but...might just be me. stillllll i would prefer the Future tone over this since i kinda, like the realistic colouring
Ik my opinion is probably unpopular but I like the fact that in megamix miku is bright it makes her stand out and i think the one in future tone is a tiny bit too dark :/ meh idkr
I wish they would've toon-shaded the stages as well, breathe new life into some of the older PVs. FT models will always be my favorite from a technical standpoint, but I do like Mega39's too, it's like a nice in-between, not too uncanny and realistic as FT but not as floaty and plastic-y as the F models.
The models between FT and Mega39's appear to be the exact same. If you look at them closely, specially when the camera is close-up to them, there doesn't seem to be a difference in the polygon count between the two versions. The M39's model does not seem like it's more jaggedy or less rounded than the FT model. Of course, this is what I see glancing at them, and there is the possibility that the models are changed after all, but I'm unable to see it if that's the case. As for the lighting/shading, in this PV, I like F's lighting and shading a bit more. M39's is definitely pretty saturated at times, not as dark as maybe it should be, and it can look off sometimes, but I do think it works most of the time. I don't like FT's look personally. I think that things like skin and hair are what look like plastic to me in those versions. The shadows on those parts to me don't look dark enough sometimes and it makes them look a bit flat. I feel the same when it comes to the DreamyTheater versions on PS3. I think it's all a matter of what song it is what determines if the Cel shading works or not. In this one, I don't think it does, but in something like Catch the Wave, it really works for me. Still, the whole game having it, I don't see it as a problem. It does make the game stand out a bit from the rest, and it at least kind of hides the fact that it's just a port of FT if you're not aware of it.
@@Hachi_Shibaru You have to remember that this PV was made specifically for Project Diva F, of course the F model's gonna look the best. Just look at PVs made specifically for Mega39 like Catch The Wave, it's not technically impressive but it looks great, and there's cohesion because it was made with the Mega39 specifications from the ground up. Also when I said Mega39's models weren't as uncanny as FT I mean that the toon shader helps hide some of the more realistic/uncanny aspects of FT.
@@kyestar88 No, all the baked-in shading and airbrush real-time shadows in the F models makes them look like cheap plastic figures, the stiff, floaty pigtails don't help either. If you like it that's fine, a lot of people do,
@@kyestar88 No, the flat colors make it look like a 3D anime. I agree that the lighting in mega39's is bad in this PV, but mega39's models look much better in newer PVs and the ones made specifically for mega39's.
Even though I prefer 2d look more. But F has the best blend of both. I still want to buy mega mix. I already own all of the Vita versions and future tone.
If only megamix was like the ultimate version of all the handheld games instead of a future tone port. But I guess people prefer the quantity of songs over style.
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Happy to see this video being well-received. Actually didn't think it would get this much interest. I really just did a comparison video for the sake of comparison. No intention to really drag down MegaMix in any way. When compared to the other games, the lighting in MegaMix is certainly lacking. However, I still think MegaMix is completely fine. Side by side with others, negatives can be seen. Sill, the game on its own has been enjoyable for me.
Ok, so MegaMix is the same as F and Future Tone, just with a brighter contrast.
Umm people are actually complaining how weird they made 39s look. So I wouldn't say, "It's well-received"
@@jcd_1991 huh They're talking about the video itself not the Megamix graphics
Honestly, I like the way MegaMix looks. I always preferred the less... doll like... look of PD F, personally. While MegaMix goes a bit far to the other extreme, in some cases it really works. Heavily shadowed settings, like ODDS & ENDS don't mix well with it at all, not going to even pretend, but other, brighter environments really mesh so good. Eh, Ah, Sou? is one where the shading really popped out with the rest of the environment. Sekiranun Graffiti is another. It just really depends on the setting itself whether the shading looks weird or not. Fun fact though, the models are really just reshaded versions of the Future Tone models!
Now I'm going back to playing. They just released packs 4 and 5 yesterday!
FT has the best lighting
F has the best expressions
Mega39 has... brightness
And I think the hair physics are better
Tbh FT shaders looks weird
The hair is the same @@juvef6075
shes so BRIGHT oml (but srsly thx for this comparison i never thought we’d be doing diva comparisons again but here we are) the lighting looks the coolest in ft (duh) but f has that anime style that i always like to look at, all of them look pretty good its just that mega39s looks so BRIGHT
Ikr
it looks like them old ugly mmd models,mega mix i mean
Future Tone and F: subtle lighting that reflects the overall tone of the video
Megamix: *walks in with a LED spotlight* HI HOW THE HELL ARE YA
Rip the lighting and shadows on Miku for Mega mix, she just looks so bright and out of place in the darker environments in this song due to the change to a more anime artstyle and hardware limitations. I'm still getting the mega mix tho as I feel the portability just barely balances out the negatives.
i wouldn't say its hardware limitations considering the 3rd panel Project Diva F is also a Vita title and can be seen close to the shown one (that is the ps4 edition)
this might be a case of just artistic design where they wanted Miku to always be bright as if she herself is a beacon of light
@@kyestar88 i wouldnt say lazy tbh since this game is just an experiment so they put less effort onto it. If its successful they'll release a new one on switch if it flopped at least they didnt spend alot of money on it. In my opinion I like bright miku. She is just too cute
@@frain_breeze1707 i respect your opinion but i still prefer project diva f/f2 over mega39 toon shader😏. So project diva f,f2 and X will be my miku portable experience and my ps4 would be for my full HD graphic miku experince.
hatsune miku Future Tone>Miku f/f2&X >mega39
@@farihinhajimohdlisa9017 th-cam.com/video/feK9mpwDdts/w-d-xo.html
@@ivanc2724 thks for the link, the video feels much better and almost good looking as future tone. cant wait for megamix dlc come to future tone
I feel like they should've given the cel shading to the environments in Mega39's. As others have said, Miku look out of place as if the lighting the environment doesn't match her.
Still a fun game tho. The important part is how fun the songs are to play.
I think i prefer the F because of a the shading and it kinda looks better imo
F looks more natural. The others have crazy shaders
Same, the others are too unnaturally bright
FT: either too dark or too bright, 3d model looks kinda plastic-ey, excess of shade
MM: looks like a cartoon in a photorealistic environment, which doesnt look *horrible*, too little shade
F: just the right amount of shade, blends perfectly, 10/10
@@monca1222 Megamix is too bright and FT is too extreme. Sometimes too bright and other times (like certain times here) too dark
F looks older.
Okay in Megamix, it's like she has a constant spotlight on her XD She kinda sticks out a bit more in her environment, and at times not in a good way. Makes me wish they got an entirely new playlist for megamix. I know a lot want some returning songs, but with the new toon-like shading, I think new environments would have been a better choice to use than just directly porting it. They got away with it between F and FT because of the lighting and textures, so it saved them time. I really like the new shading for Megamix but... to see it like this, it feels like they were just cutting corners. And that's a feeling I do not like since I LOVE Project diva!
個人的にはFが総合点高い
後半の楽譜受け取るとこはFutureのが良いと思う
39'sはやっぱりまだアニメ調が完成されてない感が強い
謎の白さマジで目に悪すぎ
I gree
Other than the limitations the Megamix might have in Switch, I feel like the lighting and shading on the models... works and doesn’t work at the same time (all depending on whatever scene is playing out of course!).
It does look more anime-ish which makes me nostalgic from the days I’ve played the PSP entry but I do feel like the lack of shading (in some scenes) makes them pop out more where it makes sense like in 1:01 considering where the light source is and how Miku is casting the shadow in Megamix compared to Future Tone. It works in its own way but seeing them side by side really has you seeing the major differences.
th-cam.com/video/feK9mpwDdts/w-d-xo.html what limitations the switch can run with future tone graphics perfectly fine
@@kyestar88 Not sure I agree. Vita version had a bit of a blurry look to it and also a frame rate of 30fps which rather noticable.
The brightness works in these kinds 2:28 and 0:33
The lighting change on the 39 model is very weird. Probably to make up for graphics. Are all the 39 models like that?
Sadly I think they are
They're the same models as future tone but with different shadets
Yeah I guess it makes sense they're the same models. It's insane how much of a difference lighting and shading makes.
I'm probably getting it anyways cause I hate my wallet and having money, but honestly, the draw to 39s/MegaMix just isn't there. It would be one thing if it was almost just a worse graphical port of Future Tone, but it is just a not good idea overall unless you're really hell-bent on getting those new songs.
th-cam.com/video/feK9mpwDdts/w-d-xo.html the switch can run on future tone graphics tho
MEGA39sはやっぱりアニメ感あって、「現実に出てきたミク」っぽい
あとの二つはリアルで光沢強いからな……MEGA39sが一番好き
FFはリアルで細かい、メガミックスは可愛さ重視、fはアニメみたいな感じで線が太く感じた どれも好きだ！
この曲はメガミックスのグラフィックが1番似合うと思う...PS4のリアル調も良いけどこの曲はPCから出てくるシーンとかあって周りはリアルでミクだけアニメ調なのがいい味出してる。
Mega 39 has a demo. Not many people have mentioned it but there is a demo in the Japan store. It includes common world domination (or something like that) and Romeo and Cinderella. It includes both game modes for the songs and difficulty is up to hard. It includes only the two extra modules (the song specific), the 6 vocaloids (all in original except meiko if I recall just like x) and it doesn't allow to swap head modules but the real game does. You can still change the icons, and allthough not a complain but if you played any of the f, f2nd, x or arcade ports, the x button might complicate you as the x in ps and switch are in different position so if you really struggle to remember the buttons swap them to arrows. PV mode is in the demo too and its very light when talking about size. If you can't read basics of the online store in Japanese just remember that the big button is to purchase and the lower smaller is to download the demo.
In my opinion I prefer the mega mix' shader but in this song with a dark environment it just doesn't fit
Yeah, the Mega Mix shader works really well in bright and colorfull pvs, but in the darker and more dramatic ones Mega Mix just looks wrong
やっぱり逆光表現が一番綺麗に出ているのはf
Future Tone have the most quality graphics, but I think F is the best looking
Idk it looks bad shaded for me prob cuz its the vita ver
FTの写実的なのも良いし、Mega39sのアニメ調も良い。Fはそもそも顔が違うし。アケミク勢としてはFTが一番好きだけどまあ好みだよね。
the toon shader in megamix is probably my personal favourite graphical style, but it is a bit much on the eyes occasionally with how bright it can be
I like the F style so far than FT but
For megamix i..i dont know its to hard to tell
My personal rankings of these
#1:Project Diva Future Tone(I usually like F/F2nd's version better than FT's version in these videos.It's just in this video I feel like the lighting is slightly better in FT)
#2:Project Diva F
#3:Project Diva Mega39s(While i do like the new shader they added in this game,it just doesn't suit this song well because of how bright it is here)
めがみっくすよりFTのほうが光源感じて好きだなぁ、、、
あとモデルの綺麗さは劣るけど顔のバランス感はDivaFが一番好きかも
やっぱりこの曲はフューチャートーンかFの方が好きだな～…
メガミックスは見やすいけど、昔の方がミクちゃんって言う感じが凄いする！！
I actually really like the megamix art style but i dont know how I feel about the shading
it's the same model just different shading. but I can see how u would think the art style looks different.
nek nek yeah. It’s the lines.
As always, Future Tone looks the best lol mega mikuzu looks so awkward nar way too bright
they had to cut down the graphics to maintain playable framerate and compare to the PS4, the switch is nowhere near poweful. But when playing in handheld mode, it looks great though
Ngọc Tuấn the switch can handle FTs graphics lol. they added the shader for style
@@majinkz but they had to cut down for framerate and battery life. We dont know if the switch could hold up with the ps4 graphics or not because the developer never say anything about that. Everything is just theory
Ngọc Tuấn there’s video of the switch running the game without the shader lol th-cam.com/video/feK9mpwDdts/w-d-xo.html
I honestly don't like future tone... she is an anime character she is not supposed be or look that realistic she looks like a creepy kigurumi
Love the cel shader for Miku herself in MegaMix but I like the environments from F and FT (FT's slightly more because that lighting/shadow effect ROCKS).
画質はFが好きかなぁ…
Rip rimlighting, 2012-2016. Truly, F to pay respects.
Ughh I've just been using F 2nd for it's Edit mode lately. I forgot how gorgeous it's normal PVs are 😍
Megamix model looks too bright and out of place in this specific song. In all others i've see, 100% prefer the megamix art style to the "realistic" future tone ( looks great at some shots, but too plastic-y and "doll"-looking otherwise)
Project Diva F models with FT hair and clothes physics= best miku. Honestly if they had done that instead it would look a lot better. I know the only reason they did the shader is so people didnt feel ripped off for buying the same exact game...but i dont think this looks that good tbh.
Megamix is actually good, people said that "FT Graphics are better! " Or "It's not realistic!" Wait a minute... So these people are actually focused on Miku or they're focused on the game? When we play the game what we focus on is the gameplay actually. And both gameplays are the same tho, just the graphic thing.
This is my opinion k
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I don’t like future tone for how realistic it is. F is is probably the best looking one out of all of them because mega mix is too bright. That’s my only problem. I really wish they would bring back the old model for miku that’s in project diva f because it just looks so much better.
Switchやってて、背景眩しくてノーツ見えねぇよ！と思ってたけどモデルからもう眩しかったのか…。Fや2ndが良かっただけに残念だな😭
I appreciate that they went for cell shaded instead of the uncanny doll-like hyperrealism Future Tone had going, but holy cow how lacking can that shader be that it can't even deal with backlighting and dim settings? The oldest one shouldn't be the best looking one.
DIVA Fが一番良いね。
モデリングが一番かわいいし、表情変化の差が大きいから多彩に見える。
他はこのステージ一番の肝である、逆光の意味が分かってないように思えてならない。
追記
F以外は口の変形の作り方が間違っていて、リップシンクが合っていないという問題がある。
特に、あいうえおの“え”の形が口角上げて笑っているので違和感が半端ないですね。
ftのディティールがリアルですこ
This is one of the few songs where I actually like the lighting for Future Tone
on Play Station they wanted to give her a realistic look
on Nintendo they gave her a more anime look
I have no complains whatsoever
Tbh that is almost literally the difference between the look of most games on both consoles XD
Than there's Switch.....
Excelente video 10 /10 podrías hacer lo mismo plis como una segunda parte
例えるなら
FTとFは｢もしも現実に初音ミクがいたなら｣
39'sは｢ARを使って現実に写し出した初音ミク｣
こんな感じ
It's strange; they're all imperfect in some way. Highly interesting. Thanks for this video!
I play megamix and it is a very good game, but I do agree that they should work on the lighting. I think one of the reasons they use toon shader is for less space since the switch only has 30 gigs but I'm not sure
1:10 caught megamixes fps drop😀
Gameplay wise, Project diva f ( 2nd ) will always be my favorite but looks wise, It'll always be Arcade Future tone
めがみっくすは暗みが消えた
Personally, I like all three of these, but for very different reasons. I can see why this is such a point of contention.
メガミックス影がなくてなんか違和感…でも買いましたどのミクちゃんも可愛い
可愛さが ‼️ハッキリ‼️
*･゜ﾟ･*:.｡..｡.:*･'(*ﾟ▽ﾟ*)'･*:.｡. .｡.:*･゜ﾟ･*
明るさがすごい多いけど多分見えやすいようにしたんだと。
I would always say I wanted to see one of these that show the song from EVERY SINGLE GAME (even the Mirai series) but then I realized the song that's been in the most games is I think Ievon Polkka. it was in the first game as a song. I don't know if it was in project diva 2nd or project diva extend. I don't know if it was in the arcade version of the first project diva game, but it probably does since it's an arcade version of the first game which had Ievon Polkka. And it was in project diva F as a tutorial. It was in project diva F 2nd as a tutorial I think. It was in Project diva X as a tutorial I think. and it was probably in Project diva f the PS Vita version of Project Diva F and. Since it was projected diva F 2nd then I think the PS Vita version of Project Diva F 2nd also had it. And it might have been in project diva dreamy theater since it's a PS3 version of the first game which had it. I don't think it's in project diva dreamy theater 2nd or project diva dreamy theater extend because it's the PS3 version of project diva 2nd and project diva extend which I don't think had it. and project diva arcade future tone had it and so did the ps4 port of project diva future tone. I think project diva future tone and arcade future tone had Ievon Polkka as a tutorial and a playable song. and megamix Im pretty sure has it too. I don't think any of the Mirai series had it though
I’m not sure why they make miku so bright in mega mix when they can just shade like they did in ft like in sadists music factory the shading and lighting is so good with ft but on mega mix they didn’t do that at all.
if they messed with the toon shader for megamix and allowed it to go darker, I think it would work way better. I think this comparison definitley shows it the most. Athough there are some mvs where i Prefer megamix being brighter and more colorful, I think ft has the edge because of the detailed lighting.
こんなんアーケードが1番に決まってるやんずるいわ空間やばいもんリアルさ凄いもんすき
I think F and F2nd did these looks the best. They're perfectly balanced between the toony style and realistic style. It's not too flat, but still not as dramatically "realistic".
F sencond really has the best lighting cuz in Ft you cannot see here, and on 39 YOU CAN SEE HER TOO MUCH
Future Tone: Gorgeous
F: Decent
Meg mix: What the heck is going on
Idk I just love the feeling FT gives off
(Probably cuz I've only watched FT pvs for the past 3 years)
BUT 1:18 FT'S LIGHTING
TO ME
SO GUD
FTがやっぱり一番味があって好きだなあ
mega39sミクさんの整合性を突き抜けた明るさから、現実とは次元が違う存在であることの表現が感じられて一番すこすこのすこ
FTは好きな人は好きだよね
わしもじゃ
まぁスペック足りないからアニメ調になった感じ。正直PS4のFT持ってたら別に無理に買う必要は無いかも。無理にDivaじゃなくてProject Mirai HDとかなら買ったかもしれない。
逆光無いと違和感
I think the og and future tone have better detail, but megamix makes Miku way more visible. Especially with such a dark background, it's important to make sure she's contrasting the background. Sometimes looks weird, but I understand the choice.
Am I the only one who loves the future tone ver?
I feel like the shading and atmosphere is extremely well done on that version
Even if the hair physics are wack
switchのスペック的にライティング表現がむずかしいとかですかね？
Bottom left is best for wide shots duiie to the colouring. But top left, close up are really realistic and I really like it. Top right the colours are just too blown out.
The lighting sucks in Mega 39s, but I think it’s my second favorite after F. I love the FT graphics but I feel like the cartoonish charm of Mega 39s and F/X series keep the charm of Vocaloids-real voices, but just characters.
Future tone:realistic like
Mega mix:anime toon like
Project diva F:simulation like
I love how these games are different in a way since that's the point in making another game XD honestly, everyone have a different way to have fun and enjoy these games, so there is one for everyone. Every pv has a way to be able to perceive things and enjoy it's quality.
Mega mix should’ve at least had project F shading. It would also be nice if the texture of her costumes would be visible like in Future tone. I also sorta like project f Miku model a lil bit more than the rest. She looks a little bit more anime-ish and it’s just nostalgic that way.
Am I the only one who noticed the extraction of light from Miku's eyes in DIVA F at 2:57? They only seem to do this kinda stuff in the F series and maybe in X and I wish they could do that again in the games after! (No, the extraction of light from the characters' eyes when they look in a reflection doesn't count.)
I actualy like the brigthness of Megamix in this song
And im not even joking, FIGTH ME
I like all three
Look, I hate how MegaMix looks too, but theres a thing you cant really be angry at.
MegaMix has the best hair physics of all the Diva games.
Miku literally looks like she is glowing in Mega Mix.. I know it’s toon shader but this song NEEDS atleast some shading to look good
Fが好きすぎる
レシート39000、アケコン買ったなこりゃ
i feel this brightness issue is made for the switch for a reason. Since the console in handheld would kinda be difficult to balance between the tv mode and its native (720p?) resolution? as the game would be harder to see in bright light i think but...might just be me.
stillllll i would prefer the Future tone over this since i kinda, like the realistic colouring
i like the F one the most its a good combo of megamix and future tone
I like future tone's look but I cant afford that device.....I feel bad I wasted money on mega mix
Ik my opinion is probably unpopular but I like the fact that in megamix miku is bright it makes her stand out and i think the one in future tone is a tiny bit too dark :/ meh idkr
(Future Tone + Mega39's) / 2 = F
I wish they would've toon-shaded the stages as well, breathe new life into some of the older PVs.
FT models will always be my favorite from a technical standpoint, but I do like Mega39's too, it's like a nice in-between, not too uncanny and realistic as FT but not as floaty and plastic-y as the F models.
The models between FT and Mega39's appear to be the exact same. If you look at them closely, specially when the camera is close-up to them, there doesn't seem to be a difference in the polygon count between the two versions. The M39's model does not seem like it's more jaggedy or less rounded than the FT model. Of course, this is what I see glancing at them, and there is the possibility that the models are changed after all, but I'm unable to see it if that's the case.
As for the lighting/shading, in this PV, I like F's lighting and shading a bit more. M39's is definitely pretty saturated at times, not as dark as maybe it should be, and it can look off sometimes, but I do think it works most of the time. I don't like FT's look personally. I think that things like skin and hair are what look like plastic to me in those versions. The shadows on those parts to me don't look dark enough sometimes and it makes them look a bit flat. I feel the same when it comes to the DreamyTheater versions on PS3.
I think it's all a matter of what song it is what determines if the Cel shading works or not. In this one, I don't think it does, but in something like Catch the Wave, it really works for me. Still, the whole game having it, I don't see it as a problem. It does make the game stand out a bit from the rest, and it at least kind of hides the fact that it's just a port of FT if you're not aware of it.
@@Hachi_Shibaru You have to remember that this PV was made specifically for Project Diva F, of course the F model's gonna look the best. Just look at PVs made specifically for Mega39 like Catch The Wave, it's not technically impressive but it looks great, and there's cohesion because it was made with the Mega39 specifications from the ground up.
Also when I said Mega39's models weren't as uncanny as FT I mean that the toon shader helps hide some of the more realistic/uncanny aspects of FT.
@@kyestar88 No, all the baked-in shading and airbrush real-time shadows in the F models makes them look like cheap plastic figures, the stiff, floaty pigtails don't help either. If you like it that's fine, a lot of people do,
@@kyestar88 No, the flat colors make it look like a 3D anime. I agree that the lighting in mega39's is bad in this PV, but mega39's models look much better in newer PVs and the ones made specifically for mega39's.
kyestar88 ok furry
Fの表情がダントツにいい
Future tone : amazing shadows and hair
MegaMix 39 : no shadows, Just glowy hair
F2nd : classic on 2 place for me
I like the project diva f models best.
Even though I prefer 2d look more. But F has the best blend of both. I still want to buy mega mix. I already own all of the Vita versions and future tone.
Megamix looks like a whole crime.
Why tf did they change the shading on switch so much. Ps3 looks way better. Even better than ps4 imo. The ps4 shading is just uncanny valley
they used the toon shader in mega39’s to hide the edits they had to do to the modules to increase performance.
Is the Project Diva F runs at 60 fps or its just the video because miku's movement seems to be choppy
megamix be like: none of our characters have noses
Maybe Miku is brighter because is easier to see in Portable mode?
この曲の薄暗い感じが好き
やっぱりがps4いいよw
Never realised how Miku looked so different in each game. Probs cause I was too busy mashing buttons than paying attention to the video.
F:Cell shaded
Future tone:Soft Shaded
Mega mix:UNSHADED
In my opinion F is the best
Mega Mix is too bright
Future Tone is too dark
F is just right
三つ目君用立体映像
笑った
Mega 39 is the best
I think F fits the song better but I like bright colors so visually mega mix is better while F is better pairing
Future tone's lighting is much better but F has more updates style of Miku.
the hair texture/shading for F is so… eh… compared to FT. Her bangs and eyes look way better in FT.
If only megamix was like the ultimate version of all the handheld games instead of a future tone port. But I guess people prefer the quantity of songs over style.
I do think it's a matter of taste, really. But it's true it's a bit of a shame the toonshader doesn't have as dramatic lighting effects.
MEGA39'sでのこの曲の背景の一部は動画再生だけど、ポリゴン処理しているところすらライティングおかしいのはなぁ…
Mega39'sはSwitchのスペックの関係上アンチエイリアスがPS4に比べて低い設定になっているのでしょうね...他の方が仰っていた通り3DSのようなねんどろいどミクのリズムゲームだったら全然良かったと思いますね...
ジャギーの多さは720pである事も関係しますが、恐らくアンチエイリアスも低く設定されていると思います。
しかし、背景の動画再生部を除けば、FTと全く同じポリゴン処理を60fpsで出来ており、PS Vitaからの進化と思うと個人的には好印象です。
sirome あ！そういえば解像度720pでしたね！まあ確かにSwitchにしては良いグラフィックですよね！でも個人的な意見ですが、アニメ調にするなら背景もアニメ調にして欲しかったです...(´；ω；｀)
@@かふぇもかちゃんねる-u3w めちゃくちゃわかります。
新曲以外はFTのデータをほぼ丸々流用しており、トゥーンレンダリングもキャラクターのみの適用に留まってしまったのはやはり残念ですよね…
sirome 新曲だけアニメ調に最適化されてしまうのは仕方ないですが、出来る事なら背景にも適用して欲しかったですよね...あとDIVA10thならエディットモードも復活して欲しかったです...DIVAならではの機能なので...PS4からの新モデルでのエディットも楽しそうだなぁ...(エディット機能はTシャツエディットがありますがあれだと物足りないです...)
Ft looks doll-like, megamix looks cartoony, and F looks like your standard mmd
The winner is Future Tone.
What happens in mega39's??????
F has the best shading,
FT has the best graphics
Megamix is just having fun
メガみくの逆光をもう少し強調したら完璧だった。メガみくの方がモニターから出てきた感あるし