Interesting solution. I have a brand knew '22 GSA and the gas cap stuck on mine. Rather than eliminate the electronics I spent some time investigating what was going on and I found two things both reported by others. First, that little pin / plunger assembly gets dirty, especially if you are riding in a lot dirt / dust. You can feel that if you manually try to move the plunger back and forth. I've used a combination of break cleaner and WD40 to clean mine. The second issue is if you tighten up the two top screws too much which is pretty easy to do when you add that extra ring for the tank bag (I haven't done that yet). One of the solutions to getting your gas cap open is to push down on it before trying to open and that helped me out although with a plunger that is dirty (or has too much pressure and can't move) that may not work. In any case, whatever works for you. And, it would likely be cheaper to do what you did and then purchase a locking gas cap if you wanted it!
thanks for your input, I tried lubing and tightening bolts, but the prob just kept getting worse so I took drastic action. I'm happy with it now. Its a bad design if you ask me.
In my 2022/2023 R1250 GSA the gas cap have stucks after 2 weeks brand new, on-road use only. The dirty doesn't explain that. I use to push down the cap firmly while pull the lever. Is working for now, but I have concerns about the gas cap getting older. More strange is that I left a R1200GS 2018 after 4 years since brand new, 40k km ride and never had hapened. The system is same.
I had a similar issue today , managed to get it open by removing the top section of the outer circle which is held in place by the 2 screws and then found that I couldn't get it to close , finally worked out that it will only operate if I have turned the ignition on and opened the cap within 10 seconds of turning it off, obviously some sort of safety system, so if it won't close after you've filled the tank , turn the ignition on and then turn it off again, also a good idea to clean the little pin with a drop of GT85 using a small artist brush , hope this helps someone but have to say I like what you did , it's great to stick two fingers up to the big corporate boys who would rob us all blind given half a chance . Also hope you checked your service book to see if they ticked the box in your service schedule to say whether or not they had changed your 2019 air filter 👍🏻 . Thanks for posting .
that's how my issues started it just got worse and worse. I never tried lubricant but as you have seen in my video the lock pin bent and is not replaceable. The only choice is to buy the entire assembly. My advice is don't abuse the gas cap. LOL ride safe.
I have a 2019 always find dust and tiny stones under the dust cap, I think it’s a design fault! Hand the cover the hole into the tank the fish out the dirt from around the metal mechanism you pulled out. There shouldn’t be any dirt getting in there in the first place. Keep an eye on it whenever you fill up. And when you close it lift the tab all the way up push down on the edge of the cap beside the tab and release the tab. 🍻
Hey! So I just purchased 2015 gs and couldnt open the gas cap. Looked up vidoe for a quick solution, now im looking for a more permanent one. I see you made this video a year ago. Just curious about an uodate. Do you still use the same method, does it work? Any issues?
Thank you very much for this video. My 2017 1200RT keyless gas cap was opening intermittently just before the warranty ran out and I wasn't quick enough in getting it addressed. My question is: can the fix be done simply by yanking the pin out without the extra dismantling etc? Thanks!
probably, i took it apart to try and fix it but once i saw this pin bent I knew it had to come out, you might be able to pull it like a tooth with the right tools, good luck ! I have had zero issues since doing this fix.
Got at 2020 bmw f750gs and every single time i take it out for a long ride and off road something small always breaks like this its ridiculous. For adventure bikes theyre not that reliable.
@@FrankBartalotta I think hes talking about the bit that goes directly down into the locking mechinism not the part that catches and stops it opening. I was thinking the same thing as mines just got stuck. My bike is still under warranty though so I may try with that before I go chopping bits off!
Indeed, keep is clean and very lightly lubed with thin lubricant and it might not stay locked when you need to fill the bike up. In short, it is a crappy design. If BMW ever designs an airplane, I'm not getting on it, that is for sure.
@@FranksBmwAdv Nah, I just do not have use for "high-tech" uness there is a real advantage to it. I ordered my R1200 GSA LC without keyless and the quick shift option or whatever it was called. In fact, there is still a reason why I still have an 1986 R80 G/S Paris Dakar and 1990 R100 GS. I can get those going anywhere.
@@ioio5239 I don’t get any errors on my gs911. I didn’t disconnect any electronics. Just removed the pin as shown in video. Hope that helps. I’ve always been hard on my gas cap hitting it cause it so hard to close. Now it works like it’s brand new. Good luck 🍀
Too much electronics in BMW bikes, they need to back peddle a little and go back to key start and a key to open the tank. This is an Adventure bike, not a city bike so keep it simple BMW. The dealer told me to keep a WD40 on the bike, not acceptable BMW, get rid of the problem as customers pay a lot of money for a GS.
More of BMW crap workmanship , for the money you spend on these bikes , you wouldn’t expect as many common issues as posted all over social media , fuel cap release , seat lock , seat material , noisy engine etc etc
I understand your frustration. It can be disheartening to see mistakes being made in any industry, especially one that you're passionate about like the motorcycle industry. It's natural to feel like these mistakes might be specific to the MC industry, but it's important to remember that every industry has its share of problems and shortcomings.
Interesting solution. I have a brand knew '22 GSA and the gas cap stuck on mine. Rather than eliminate the electronics I spent some time investigating what was going on and I found two things both reported by others. First, that little pin / plunger assembly gets dirty, especially if you are riding in a lot dirt / dust. You can feel that if you manually try to move the plunger back and forth. I've used a combination of break cleaner and WD40 to clean mine. The second issue is if you tighten up the two top screws too much which is pretty easy to do when you add that extra ring for the tank bag (I haven't done that yet). One of the solutions to getting your gas cap open is to push down on it before trying to open and that helped me out although with a plunger that is dirty (or has too much pressure and can't move) that may not work.
In any case, whatever works for you.
And, it would likely be cheaper to do what you did and then purchase a locking gas cap if you wanted it!
thanks for your input, I tried lubing and tightening bolts, but the prob just kept getting worse so I took drastic action. I'm happy with it now. Its a bad design if you ask me.
In my 2022/2023 R1250 GSA the gas cap have stucks after 2 weeks brand new, on-road use only. The dirty doesn't explain that. I use to push down the cap firmly while pull the lever. Is working for now, but I have concerns about the gas cap getting older.
More strange is that I left a R1200GS 2018 after 4 years since brand new, 40k km ride and never had hapened. The system is same.
It’s an extremely stooped design to begin with. When mine decides to kick and I’m past warranty, I’ll yank that pin right out, too. Thanks!
NO problems was out riding today fueled up!
I had a similar issue today , managed to get it open by removing the top section of the outer circle which is held in place by the 2 screws and then found that I couldn't get it to close , finally worked out that it will only operate if I have turned the ignition on and opened the cap within 10 seconds of turning it off, obviously some sort of safety system, so if it won't close after you've filled the tank , turn the ignition on and then turn it off again, also a good idea to clean the little pin with a drop of GT85 using a small artist brush , hope this helps someone but have to say I like what you did , it's great to stick two fingers up to the big corporate boys who would rob us all blind given half a chance . Also hope you checked your service book to see if they ticked the box in your service schedule to say whether or not they had changed your 2019 air filter 👍🏻 . Thanks for posting .
that's how my issues started it just got worse and worse. I never tried lubricant but as you have seen in my video the lock pin bent and is not replaceable. The only choice is to buy the entire assembly. My advice is don't abuse the gas cap. LOL ride safe.
Great job. Thanks for sharing us your pain. We have the same pain.
This same piece of shit is affecting the R1250RT and R1250GS as well.
thanks, glad it gave you some direction and help, feel free to post how you dealt with it.
Good job Frank, money saving video, thanks
Thanks Frank just did it and all good .. 👏🏻👏🏻
awesome saved a ton of money, no more stress at the pump
I would not pay for new one, good job.
I have a 2019 always find dust and tiny stones under the dust cap, I think it’s a design fault! Hand the cover the hole into the tank the fish out the dirt from around the metal mechanism you pulled out. There shouldn’t be any dirt getting in there in the first place. Keep an eye on it whenever you fill up. And when you close it lift the tab all the way up push down on the edge of the cap beside the tab and release the tab. 🍻
I found it to be a vacuum in the tank which is stopping the lid from opening. I have only fuelled once so far. Had the bike for over a week.
I just bought a brand new GSA yesterday. Can't open the tank.
💩 that sucks. Warranty should cover it. Good luck.
Hey! So I just purchased 2015 gs and couldnt open the gas cap. Looked up vidoe for a quick solution, now im looking for a more permanent one. I see you made this video a year ago. Just curious about an uodate. Do you still use the same method, does it work? Any issues?
Thank you very much for this video. My 2017 1200RT keyless gas cap was opening intermittently just before the warranty ran out and I wasn't quick enough in getting it addressed. My question is: can the fix be done simply by yanking the pin out without the extra dismantling etc? Thanks!
probably, i took it apart to try and fix it but once i saw this pin bent I knew it had to come out, you might be able to pull it like a tooth with the right tools, good luck ! I have had zero issues since doing this fix.
Got at 2020 bmw f750gs and every single time i take it out for a long ride and off road something small always breaks like this its ridiculous. For adventure bikes theyre not that reliable.
You could have just filed the tang off that sticks down into that sliding lock bolt. 2 minutes same deal, No more lock.
no that would cause you to have no clip for the snap to catch on. and cap would be open to air.
@@FrankBartalotta I think hes talking about the bit that goes directly down into the locking mechinism not the part that catches and stops it opening. I was thinking the same thing as mines just got stuck.
My bike is still under warranty though so I may try with that before I go chopping bits off!
I always wipe the mechanism every time I fill up. time to time I have add a thin film of PTFE lubricant
prob a good habit to have, I prob banged mine too many times 44 K on my bike right now. 👍
Indeed, keep is clean and very lightly lubed with thin lubricant and it might not stay locked when you need to fill the bike up. In short, it is a crappy design. If BMW ever designs an airplane, I'm not getting on it, that is for sure.
@@peteryoomla156take a look at the BMW logo? It’s a propeller. They have been in aviation a very long time.
I never seem to have a problem. I stick my key in the slot and my gas cap opens on my R1200 GSA LC.
i assume that a joke, my bike is keyless entry for gas cap. Ride safe
@@FranksBmwAdv Nah, I just do not have use for "high-tech" uness there is a real advantage to it. I ordered my R1200 GSA LC without keyless and the quick shift option or whatever it was called. In fact, there is still a reason why I still have an 1986 R80 G/S Paris Dakar and 1990 R100 GS. I can get those going anywhere.
comments please! what do you think of my fix?
Does removing the mechanism affect the Fault Code reading on a GS911?
@@ioio5239 I don’t get any errors on my gs911. I didn’t disconnect any electronics. Just removed the pin as shown in video. Hope that helps. I’ve always been hard on my gas cap hitting it cause it so hard to close. Now it works like it’s brand new. Good luck 🍀
Thanks. Appreciate the video.
You Rock! I'm copying You
@@thuringervonsausage5232 thx👍
perso j ai eu pareil quand j ai mis mon anneau TANKLOCK .. j avais trop serré deux vis ... maintenant ca va impeccable sans faire tout ca !
lucky you mine was not so simple.
Too much electronics in BMW bikes, they need to back peddle a little and go back to key start and a key to open the tank. This is an Adventure bike, not a city bike so keep it simple BMW. The dealer told me to keep a WD40 on the bike, not acceptable BMW, get rid of the problem as customers pay a lot of money for a GS.
it will never change, i hear ya
More of BMW crap workmanship , for the money you spend on these bikes , you wouldn’t expect as many common issues as posted all over social media , fuel cap release , seat lock , seat material , noisy engine etc etc
I understand your frustration. It can be disheartening to see mistakes being made in any industry, especially one that you're passionate about like the motorcycle industry. It's natural to feel like these mistakes might be specific to the MC industry, but it's important to remember that every industry has its share of problems and shortcomings.