My keyless cap has become increasingly difficult to open. Yesterday it took maybe 15 attempts with the ignition switched on and off to finally get it to open. I just found your video, followed your instructions, and slightly loosened my Givi tank lock ring. It seems to have sorted it so thanks very much!
I have just spent an hour trying to get my cap closed. It just would not click home for me. I found your video and problem solved, I was'nt closing the cap down before screwing in the top plate. I keep a T25 in my glovebox now as a back up. Thanks again for that very helpful video.
Wish I had known that when I toped up for the first time. Got to the petrol station sat on the bike flicked the kill switch off tried to open the cap, would it bloody open?? No chance! I taped it with the palm of my hand thinking it was stuck, still no luck. Found out it helps if you turn the bikes ignition off as well. 😂😂 DOHHHH. Great video once again!
Hi Mark. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience! Ah yes 'ignition off' an important step. That did not even help me. Glad to have found the fix for it though. Cheers Billy
I tried several times to do just that. It did not work for me. The dealer wanted a stupid price for a new one. So I simply used a side cutter, cut the little loop and removed the pin. My cap operates well. I am not bothered about it not locking as the bike is kept in the garage over night. I liked this little hack.
Gutted that this fix did not work for you but you had an alternative that's working for you. That's an alternative way to fix it 😂😂. Thanks for watching and your comments. Cheers. Billy
Great video, one thing that I would add is that, depending how dirty that pin is, it may take a day of riding for the lubricant to work its way in. I used a light gun oil so it it wouldn’t get gummed up. It didn’t open right away and I let it sit overnight. The next day after I arrived at work it opened like a champ. This tip came from my dealer, Irv Seaver in Orange, California.
@@BillysBikeAdventures Wouldn't be without a tank bag, And after 23 years of GS riding The Tank lock ring is simply the best. So simple to use, Just don't overtighten the ring !
Not necessarily, as soon as I signed a paperwork on my new bike, right there in the showroom, the salesman was showing me how to fuel. He couldn't get the tank cap open. Lol
BMW is so in love with technology that they invent solutions to things that never were a problem. Keyless entry on a motorcycle is just one more level of complication that will fail. I have 4 BMW's and will never buy another.
I totally agree n the keyless ride. It is a pain in the arse. I am constantly having to replace the battery in the key fob. Some tech is great. Most large /mid range adventure bikes have a lot of tech so there will always be problems with something. Whatever you choose next, good luck. Cheers. Billy
I fixed this issue permanently by just loosening those top two screws, a quarter to half, a turn. The added tolerance during flexing allows even the dirty pin to open the tank very easily every single time. No issues or warnings. The tank and lock is still very secure and does not move or rattle.
Hi Frank. i did try that at first but did not work for some reason. But great to hear of an alternative solution to this problem. thanks for sharing. Cheers. Billy
I havee an 2023 that I have had problems with since day one. Two things the sales man said. 1 you have only a few sec0nds to open the taln, secondly the bike must have the kickstand DOWN. When I put the kickstand down, I have no issues.
Hi. I have just double checked this and my kick stand does not need to be down to open the tank. Placed on centre stand it works fine. Mine is a 2018 GS so unless they have changed the set up, I ma not sure the sales guy knows what he is talking about. You have more than a few seconds . Just timed switching off the ignition and opening the tank. I went out to 20 seconds after switching off the ignition and still the tank opened. I did not try beyond 20 seconds. I do have a 2018 so this may have changed. Thanks for watching. Cheers Billy
I had this issue with abrand new GSA and what i found the issue to be was as the fuel expnded with heat, it placed pressure on the top section of the ring which you removed mthrough trial and error i realised that pushing down with my thumb on it would allow to release. I further torqued down the 2 screws further which pretty much cured the issue. This might help others without a dirty latch.
Hey, thanks for watching and your feedback. Had previously done all that you mentioned but with no success for me. Great to hear there are options for resolving this issue. Thanks for sharing. Cheers. Billy
I had the problem with 100 km on it... I had installed a tank ring for my SW-Motech tank bag and thought I had over tightened those bolts .... Turns out the cap stays locked until you turn the ignition off with the main keyless button on the bike. It does not open if you just hit the kill switch when stopped.. Never had the problem again.. cheers
HI Constantine. Thanks for sharing your experience and watching the video. Great that you have not had the same experience as me. Quite a common issue by all accounts judging by the comments on FB groups that I have seen. Cheers Billy
i replicated your process yesterday to avoid this problem. Have the allen key for my tank ting bolts in my tank bag now just in case! Have you heard about the recall on shaft drives for dissassembley/lube of the 2 u-joint splines. When I took my ‘22 gs in for service 1 they declined to inspect as rhey asserted there was no issue with insufficient lube. (Internet world reports very differently). Now there’s a recall being issued … for bikes at 1200 miles… great community-building content btw. cheers.
Same here. Don't want to be caught out again so keep a torx tool in my tool box. Just did a search on the recall. Nothing for my bike as yet, although there was a vent valve in to the swingarm. Something to do with stopping water getting in to the final drive. Will keep an eye out for the recall you mention. Cheers. Billy 🙌👍
Thanks for your reply. Can you confirm that you are able to open the gas cap with or without ignition on. And is having the key in proximity also a requirement that you have discovered? Cheers
WD40, cotton bud or rag with a small flat head screwdriver, gently clean around the mechanism that the petrol cap closes to. That should do the trick. Let em know if you have more questions and thanks for watching! Cheers. Billy
Sorry, i did not put that bit in. but just used the WD40 to clean the pin that i indicated on the video. The area around that also needs to be cleaned as well. A cotton bud is a good tool to use as well to to do that. Thanks for watching and your question! Cheers. Billy
Had similar problem. But i've only ever used the petrol tank 3 times in over 5 months. Checking the manual, it says something to the effect of waiting 2 minutes and / or put the key next to the petrol cap. Tried yesterday, in the garage it opened without an issue. But once on the road and it was hitting 30+c, popped into the gas station, it wouldn't open. Waited 2 minutes. Still wouldn't open. Then, what seemed like an eternity, but probably 6 minutes, the cap opened!! So, none the wiser, but maybe has something to do with the heat. Your solution is handy and will make sure carry that tool you had. It does seem an issue though. will try it again in lower temperature.
Hi tokyd. Thanks for sharing your experiences with the petrol cap on your bike. The more feedback the better. I'm sure it will benefit other riders. Cheers. Billy
I agree to a certain extent but if you have that option why have keyless open. No point in having both I don't think. I would prefer a keyed petrol cap anyway but technology is taking over these bikes. Cheers. Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures every car that I know of has a key to open the door in the even the fob fails. To me it just makes sense to have both. Electronics fail all the time.
This is good to know. I just purchased a RS and have heard people complain about this issue and blame the key and technology or something. Certainly annoying and if you were on the road and needing gas this would be an issue. Is there a tool in the kit that can open that part of the tank?
Thanks for watching! An easy fix. Ref tool kit, there was not on when I bought my GSA so unsure. I always carry a fold away set of torx and allan keys anyway so always ready just in case. Cheers Billy
They certainly. Quality gear with a 10 year guarantee. I have the soft panniers for my BMW and the OS base with the 36 L bags (2x18). Thanks for watching 👍. Cheers. Billy
A lot of times people don’t realize that you have to have your bike turned off to open the gas cap. Sometimes you even have to turn your bike on, start it then turn it back off, and it will open up.
@@BillysBikeAdventures if something was wrong, it only happened once in a great, great while. Probably just some kind of a glitch as it didn’t do it every time like if something was actually broken.
Here’s mate. Hope all is good with you. Decided on what bike next, did you go with the T7? Confirmed with Honda yesterday that are lending me an Africa Twin for a few weeks to try out 😀
And you mate , Not did anything as yet just due to work billy I was away for a month and back again tomorrow I managed out on the enduro bike last wk had a great day , I’m hanging on to see when this 490 will come out and roomers of the gas gas 400 ? Steven
Been busy mate, same here, done very little with BBA in July so catching up now until Christmas. no heard / seen much about the 400 as yet but will be a good bike I am sure
Good video, very informative. Would be a lot more helpful though if you could demonstrate how to clean the pin, for the benefit of the mechanicus incompetentus (like me). .
Hi Paul. Thanks for watching and your feedback! Yes, i did not think to include as pretty straight forward from my point of view but did not appreciate how others watching may feel about attempting this so thanks for letting me know. I used a cotton bud and some WD40. Hope that helps a little without a demo. Cheers Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures Is it that simple, just swab around the area with a cotton bud and WD40 to remove all visible crap? I can just about check my tyre pressures without adult supervision so I tend to be a bit careful exactly what I try and do on a £20k bike.
Hi there. Just tried that and worked fine. Kill switch does not affect opening the keyless tank, at least not on my 2018 GSA. thanks for watching. Cheers. Billy
I wish you showed what you did to clean it. Yes, did you put the rag to cover the petrol tank and spray the WD40. Where did you spray the WD40. For a novice like me, it would be better if you have gone through step by step and not miss the most critical step. But thanks anyway to show the rest. Appreciate it.
Hey mate. I simply used WD40 on an ear bud to clean the mechanism. You are right I should have showed that. Thanks for watching and your comments. Cheers. Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures I had the same question; how'd you clean it. But mentioning an ear bud and some WD40 does help going in the right direction. I hope... Anyway, you did save me on my trip with explaining how you opened it, so my gratitude you shall have! Thanks!
Hi CEPrepper. Thanks for watching and your comment. I should perhaps have mentioned that I used some WD40 and a rag to clean it. The reason I did not show it was because you would not have seen anything as filming the actual cleaning of, my hands would have blocked the view due to the very small area i was cleaning. The pin position is as it is because when the pin is in the lock position the lid is closed. Cheers Billy
So first BMW go out of their way by fitting indicator buttons on each handlebar and a cancel button on the throttle side … now they put electronics instead of a key for something as everyday as ‘filling it up’ .. they take away the rear light and substitute it with indicators …. I like my BMW but I seriously doubt I’d upgrade to a new one … they are trying to be clever when clever in reality is /was thought of decades ago … if it ain’t broke don’t fix it ( obviously BMW enjoys all the LED lighting and electronic fuel locks as they know they have customers at the parts department for years and years ahead
I was aware of this already and had to perform it. While one is there...take the time to lubricate all moving parts after a good cleaning. That will keep things moving smoothly for a longer period of time
Ah mate that does sound stressful. So glad that you got it out though. These things happen. I greased up my final drive a couple of years ago and the shaft came off completely, managed to get it back on though. Thanks for watching. Cheers. Billy
Too much electronics in BMW bikes, they need to back peddle a little and go back to key start and a key to open the tank. This is an Adventure bike, not a city bike so keep it simple BMW. The dealer told me to keep a WD40 on the bike, not acceptable BMW, get rid of the problem as customers pay a lot of money for a GS.
I totally agree that some electronics on bikes have gone just to o far. I am always having issues with the battery in my key fob. Never enough charge. Thanks for watching and your comments. Cheers. Billy
Thank god I'll never have to bother with that! I'd never own something with this much electric - even EFI and ABS is too much! 😌 But it's still good to know in case I come by a GS owner that has that problem.
Hi Herla. Thanks for watching and comment. Even the modern 690 Enduro / Husky 701 has ABS etc. Great that you have a bike that does not have as much electric. I do like my T7, its simplicity of just ABS and nothing else. NO issues with key entry to petrol tank. Was bound to happen to my GSA at some stage. Cheers Billy
Another example of BMW creating useless problematic marketing features such as keyless engine start, & keyless fuel cap. So BMW workaround to open fuel cap, now means that anyone can siphon fuel from the bike - without the key - by using a torz driver. Also means anyone can sabotage fuel by access to the fuel cap via the torx screws. So the 'dance' has got more complicated, & opened pandora's box.
I agree to some of your points especially on the complicated nature of keyless ride. The key fob always telling me battery low. Its a pain. Everything else you mentioned, if people want to nick fuel they will get much more from a car or lorry. not worried about fuel being siphoned. Thanks for watching. Cheers. Billy
I knew it and it's a piece of st. You pay lot of money for a system that can be bypassed with a simple allen or torx key in two minute. It's a shame from BMW to make such a poor technical design. 😤
I don't like it either. Give me back a key lock petrol tank lid any day and no fancy keyless ride. It does cause me nothing but bother to be honest. Thanks for watching. Cheers. BIlly
@@BillysBikeAdventures Same request for me. I discovered it when I upgraded the OEM fog pod lights to DENALI, because (and this is another subject of course) the original lighting setup on this bike is realy poor and once again, we pay a lot for this...
good to, clean over time...bought a 750 gs from dealer last week, He could not open the cap to show me how it works....SHUT OF IGNITION DUMMY. I MUCH prefer it be use a real key, so dependent on key fob with a 1 year battery in it controlling to much.
Hi Ed. Kind of getting that thinking myself as well. Key to open no issues at all! Thanks for watching and your comment. Enjoy the 750, I have not ridden one yet Cheers Billy
$35 k bike and a crappy looking fuel tank , these BMWs are just exspensive lemons , wish I hadn’t brought one , have had nothing but issues with locks , lights etc 😡
Ah no, I am really gutted that you have had that experience with your BMW. Apart from the key fob running out o battery really quickly, mine has been all good. Are you going to change? Cheers Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures yeah I still have the bike but on top of that issue , I had the headlight crap out the first week , the seat lock broke in the second week and don’t get me started on the soft crappy material used on the passenger seat (pretty much all happens with in the first month ) so my impressions of BMw and its build quality is very low (as well as thier after purchase support ) personally I wouldn’t buy another one (no need anyway , they are a very expensive lemon )
Switching on and off definitely did not work for me. I am curious, if you did the fix how did you then discover that all you needed to do was to switch the bike on and off? Cheers Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures Because i first did the fix only to discover that the lid still did not open. After i parked the bike and turned off the ignition i though "i'll give it ONE more try" -and VOILÃ. And then it dawned on me: aaah, of course: the ignition must be swithed off for the lid to open. (Just like a bike with ordinary key really- kinda hard to unlock the lid if you dont take the key from the ignition 😄)
Happend to me today when I stopped for fuel on my RT. I didin’t even searched for the problem and this video comes up on home page on youtube. Nice
Hey mate. Thanks for watching. Hope it helped fix the problem. Cheers. Billy
My keyless cap has become increasingly difficult to open. Yesterday it took maybe 15 attempts with the ignition switched on and off to finally get it to open. I just found your video, followed your instructions, and slightly loosened my Givi tank lock ring. It seems to have sorted it so thanks very much!
Ah great to hear the video helped. Cheers. Billy
I have just spent an hour trying to get my cap closed. It just would not click home for me. I found your video and problem solved, I was'nt closing the cap down before screwing in the top plate.
I keep a T25 in my glovebox now as a back up. Thanks again for that very helpful video.
Hi there. Thanks for watching and really great to hear that it has been helpful for you! Cheers Billy
Thanks
Hey Vincent. Thanks for the 'Super Thanks'. I appreciate the support! Best wishes. Billy
Many thanks. Makes the whole concept of a locked fuel cap look pretty stupid when you can open it up so easily!!!
Its does right ~LOL - i would be happy to go back to key ignition and fuel cap. Thanks for watching and your comment. Cheers. Billy
THANK YOU! Just picked up a 2018 R1200GS myself, and it had both a low battery fob, and a sticking pin. Resolved both, thanks to you!
Awesome, great to hear that the video was helpful. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers. Billy
Wish I had known that when I toped up for the first time.
Got to the petrol station sat on the bike flicked the kill switch off tried to open the cap, would it bloody open?? No chance! I taped it with the palm of my hand thinking it was stuck, still no luck. Found out it helps if you turn the bikes ignition off as well. 😂😂 DOHHHH.
Great video once again!
Hi Mark. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience! Ah yes 'ignition off' an important step. That did not even help me. Glad to have found the fix for it though. Cheers Billy
I tried several times to do just that. It did not work for me. The dealer wanted a stupid price for a new one. So I simply used a side cutter, cut the little loop and removed the pin. My cap operates well. I am not bothered about it not locking as the bike is kept in the garage over night. I liked this little hack.
Gutted that this fix did not work for you but you had an alternative that's working for you. That's an alternative way to fix it 😂😂. Thanks for watching and your comments. Cheers. Billy
Great stuff, thanks Billy. I'm putting a t25 in topbox now!
Sound advice! Thanks for watching! Cheers Billy
Great tip that Billy did the trick, cheers Steve
Thanks for watching and glad to hear that it helped. Cheers. Billy
Great video, one thing that I would add is that, depending how dirty that pin is, it may take a day of riding for the lubricant to work its way in. I used a light gun oil so it it wouldn’t get gummed up. It didn’t open right away and I let it sit overnight. The next day after I arrived at work it opened like a champ. This tip came from my dealer, Irv Seaver in Orange, California.
Thanks mate for sharing your experience. Also thanks for watching. Cheers. Billy
Biggest culprit for fuel cap not to open, is an over tight tank bag tank ring !
That's one reason I don't generally like tank bags. Thanks for watching Nigel. Cheers. Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures Wouldn't be without a tank bag, And after 23 years of GS riding The Tank lock ring is simply the best. So simple to use, Just don't overtighten the ring !
Not necessarily, as soon as I signed a paperwork on my new bike, right there in the showroom, the salesman was showing me how to fuel. He couldn't get the tank cap open. Lol
BMW is so in love with technology that they invent solutions to things that never were a problem. Keyless entry on a motorcycle is just one more level of complication that will fail. I have 4 BMW's and will never buy another.
I totally agree n the keyless ride. It is a pain in the arse. I am constantly having to replace the battery in the key fob. Some tech is great. Most large /mid range adventure bikes have a lot of tech so there will always be problems with something. Whatever you choose next, good luck. Cheers. Billy
I fixed this issue permanently by just loosening those top two screws, a quarter to half, a turn. The added tolerance during flexing allows even the dirty pin to open the tank very easily every single time. No issues or warnings. The tank and lock is still very secure and does not move or rattle.
Hi Frank. i did try that at first but did not work for some reason. But great to hear of an alternative solution to this problem. thanks for sharing. Cheers. Billy
Thanks for the information. I was stuck and it really helped.
Great to hear this helped. Cheers. Billy
I havee an 2023 that I have had problems with since day one. Two things the sales man said. 1 you have only a few sec0nds to open the taln, secondly the bike must have the kickstand DOWN. When I put the kickstand down, I have no issues.
Hi. I have just double checked this and my kick stand does not need to be down to open the tank. Placed on centre stand it works fine. Mine is a 2018 GS so unless they have changed the set up, I ma not sure the sales guy knows what he is talking about. You have more than a few seconds . Just timed switching off the ignition and opening the tank. I went out to 20 seconds after switching off the ignition and still the tank opened. I did not try beyond 20 seconds. I do have a 2018 so this may have changed. Thanks for watching. Cheers Billy
Brand new bike and had this issue. I lubed it up and fixed. Thx man
Ah good to hear. Thanks for watching. Cheers. Billy
I had this issue with abrand new GSA and what i found the issue to be was as the fuel expnded with heat, it placed pressure on the top section of the ring which you removed mthrough trial and error i realised that pushing down with my thumb on it would allow to release. I further torqued down the 2 screws further which pretty much cured the issue. This might help others without a dirty latch.
Hey, thanks for watching and your feedback. Had previously done all that you mentioned but with no success for me. Great to hear there are options for resolving this issue. Thanks for sharing. Cheers. Billy
I had the problem with 100 km on it... I had installed a tank ring for my SW-Motech tank bag and thought I had over tightened those bolts .... Turns out the cap stays locked until you turn the ignition off with the main keyless button on the bike. It does not open if you just hit the kill switch when stopped.. Never had the problem again.. cheers
HI Constantine. Thanks for sharing your experience and watching the video. Great that you have not had the same experience as me. Quite a common issue by all accounts judging by the comments on FB groups that I have seen. Cheers Billy
i replicated your process yesterday to avoid this problem. Have the allen key for my tank ting bolts in my tank bag now just in case! Have you heard about the recall on shaft drives for dissassembley/lube of the 2 u-joint splines. When I took my ‘22 gs in for service 1 they declined to inspect as rhey asserted there was no issue with insufficient lube. (Internet world reports very differently). Now there’s a recall being issued … for bikes at 1200 miles… great community-building content btw. cheers.
Same here. Don't want to be caught out again so keep a torx tool in my tool box. Just did a search on the recall. Nothing for my bike as yet, although there was a vent valve in to the swingarm. Something to do with stopping water getting in to the final drive. Will keep an eye out for the recall you mention. Cheers. Billy 🙌👍
Thanks for your reply. Can you confirm that you are able to open the gas cap with or without ignition on. And is having the key in proximity also a requirement that you have discovered? Cheers
Hi. You will need to have you key in range to the bike and have your ignition off to be able to open your petrol tank. Hope that helps. Cheers. Billy
I've also got 2018 r1200 GSA and the same thing happened to me, I found pushing down on the upper side of the fuel cap opens it every time.
No matter what i did, it would not open. But sorted now. Regular cleaning for me
Billy thanks for the hints on fixing the Keyless. I worked like a champ! Cheers from California
Hey there. Thanks for watching and your feedback. Great to hear it worked for you. Sunny California, I am a little bit jealous. Cheers. Billy
What are used on mine was silicon spray it doesn’t collector dirt like wd40 and now works beautifully
Thanks for the recommendation on the silicon spray. Mine still working fine after a WD40 clean but will give silicon a go as well. Cheers. Billy
I use silicone spray too, much better than WD40.
You didn’t show how to clean the pin and what to clean it with? Can you explain more?
WD40, cotton bud or rag with a small flat head screwdriver, gently clean around the mechanism that the petrol cap closes to. That should do the trick. Let em know if you have more questions and thanks for watching! Cheers. Billy
What did you actually do to clean it? Did I miss that… 😮
Sorry, i did not put that bit in. but just used the WD40 to clean the pin that i indicated on the video. The area around that also needs to be cleaned as well. A cotton bud is a good tool to use as well to to do that. Thanks for watching and your question! Cheers. Billy
THanks will keep that in mind. I wish the BMW gas cap would hinge to the right, making it easier to fix the nozzle when filling.
Thanks for watching and its a good suggestion. Cheers Billy
Unless your right handed 😂👍
Had similar problem. But i've only ever used the petrol tank 3 times in over 5 months. Checking the manual, it says something to the effect of waiting 2 minutes and / or put the key next to the petrol cap. Tried yesterday, in the garage it opened without an issue. But once on the road and it was hitting 30+c, popped into the gas station, it wouldn't open. Waited 2 minutes. Still wouldn't open. Then, what seemed like an eternity, but probably 6 minutes, the cap opened!! So, none the wiser, but maybe has something to do with the heat. Your solution is handy and will make sure carry that tool you had. It does seem an issue though. will try it again in lower temperature.
Hi tokyd. Thanks for sharing your experiences with the petrol cap on your bike. The more feedback the better. I'm sure it will benefit other riders. Cheers. Billy
My 2022 r1250gs has been flawless so far. Have not had this issue.
And I hope it never will be 👍 thanks for watching. Cheers. Billy
How do you go about cleaning that pin if it's stuck? Would spraying it with a drop of WD40 be good enough?
That's exactly what I did. A squirt of WD40 and and a cotton bud to give it a wipe. All I. Working order. Cheers. Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures awesome! Thank you!
Thank you! You just saved me an expensive trip to the dealer.
Great to hear that it was helpful. Thanks for watching and our feedback. Cheers. Billy
Cheers fella!!!
Hope it helped. Thanks for watching. Cheers Billy
BMW should have added the ability to use your key to open the gas cap in the event of a failure.
I agree to a certain extent but if you have that option why have keyless open. No point in having both I don't think. I would prefer a keyed petrol cap anyway but technology is taking over these bikes. Cheers. Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures every car that I know of has a key to open the door in the even the fob fails. To me it just makes sense to have both. Electronics fail all the time.
Great tip Billy, thanks
Thanks Joaquin. 👍👍
This is good to know. I just purchased a RS and have heard people complain about this issue and blame the key and technology or something. Certainly annoying and if you were on the road and needing gas this would be an issue. Is there a tool in the kit that can open that part of the tank?
Thanks for watching! An easy fix. Ref tool kit, there was not on when I bought my GSA so unsure. I always carry a fold away set of torx and allan keys anyway so always ready just in case. Cheers Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures Thanks! Good suggestion.
T 25 Torx
Thanks, Billie. Are those six reflective spots on your top shelf Kriega luggage? Considering same myself...
They certainly. Quality gear with a 10 year guarantee. I have the soft panniers for my BMW and the OS base with the 36 L bags (2x18). Thanks for watching 👍. Cheers. Billy
Good info. Thanks. That WD40 is adequate but try JB80 ( Justice Brothers) far superior. Aircraft external hinge LP-2 also works.
Thanks for watching and the guidance on alternative products to WD40. Will give it a try. Cheers. billy
Fixed my 850gs, thanks!
Great to hear it was helpful. Thanks for watching and your comment. Cheers Billy
interesting video. Is it normal for the cap not to open without a battery?
Not sure i understand the question as the key fob obviously has a battery in it.
I didn't think the key did anything other than let you start the bike?? Once the ignition is turned off you can open the fuel cap??
It also works the release for the petrol cap when the bikes ignition has not been switched off from running 👍
Just saved me, thanks!!!!!
Hey Vincent. So great to hear that this content really helped you out. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers. Billy
Perfect tip...Tks!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching. Cheers Billy
A lot of times people don’t realize that you have to have your bike turned off to open the gas cap. Sometimes you even have to turn your bike on, start it then turn it back off, and it will open up.
If you have to turn it off, then back on and then off again, then something is wrong. But yes, bike has to be turned off. Cheers. Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures if something was wrong, it only happened once in a great, great while. Probably just some kind of a glitch as it didn’t do it every time like if something was actually broken.
Well done sir.
Thank you !
Nice tip billy thanks for sharing mate 👌
Here’s mate. Hope all is good with you. Decided on what bike next, did you go with the T7? Confirmed with Honda yesterday that are lending me an Africa Twin for a few weeks to try out 😀
And you mate , Not did anything as yet just due to work billy I was away for a month and back again tomorrow I managed out on the enduro bike last wk had a great day , I’m hanging on to see when this 490 will come out and roomers of the gas gas 400 ?
Steven
Been busy mate, same here, done very little with BBA in July so catching up now until Christmas. no heard / seen much about the 400 as yet but will be a good bike I am sure
Thanks! Saved me 😅
Great to hear 🙌
Had same issue with my f750gs ... luckily havent had it on my 1250 gsa yet ...
Hi Deborah. Thanks for watching and your comment. Hope you got it sorted quickly. Cheers. Billy
The battery dies quickly on these keys. I have to carry extra batteries now.
So true mate. It’s my biggest frustration with them
The complementary problem is the inability to close the cap. Same sticky bit.
Ah good shout tedcrum, yes this can be an issue so thanks for pointing that out!. Cheers Billy
This happened to me too, just loosened up the bracket and it seemed to shut after that.
Good tip thanks for that 👍🏻
Thanks for watching Victoria and your comments 🙌👍. Cheers. Billy
Not bolts, but screws. Anyway, great tip.
Fair pont!
Thank you!
You're welcome and thanks for watching. Cheers. Billy
thank you so much sir
Glad it was helpful. Cheers. Billy
Good to know,cheers
Cheers Ray and thanks for watching 👍
Just lube the pin, this happened to me last week
Hi M Thanks for watching. Agree, bit of lube after a clean, all good. cheers Billy
Excellent… I have to go home and try to sell thank you
Cheers, thanks for watching! Billy
Good video, very informative. Would be a lot more helpful though if you could demonstrate how to clean the pin, for the benefit of the mechanicus incompetentus (like me). .
Hi Paul. Thanks for watching and your feedback! Yes, i did not think to include as pretty straight forward from my point of view but did not appreciate how others watching may feel about attempting this so thanks for letting me know. I used a cotton bud and some WD40. Hope that helps a little without a demo. Cheers Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures Is it that simple, just swab around the area with a cotton bud and WD40 to remove all visible crap? I can just about check my tyre pressures without adult supervision so I tend to be a bit careful exactly what I try and do on a £20k bike.
Nothing more complicated than that. Worked for me since doing the video no problems at all 👍
@@BillysBikeAdventures Great stuff, many thanks, Billy 👍
magic cleaning - I did not see a thing.....
Ha ha, i guess for some, they actually want to see it being done. Thanks will be more mindful of this in the future. Cheers. Billy
Merci👋😀
You are welcome :-)
Just remember it’s not going to open is you switch off with the kill switch 🤣
Hi there. Just tried that and worked fine. Kill switch does not affect opening the keyless tank, at least not on my 2018 GSA. thanks for watching. Cheers. Billy
perfect for all the fuel T-leaves out there
Can't please everyone
I wish you showed what you did to clean it. Yes, did you put the rag to cover the petrol tank and spray the WD40. Where did you spray the WD40. For a novice like me, it would be better if you have gone through step by step and not miss the most critical step. But thanks anyway to show the rest. Appreciate it.
Hey mate. I simply used WD40 on an ear bud to clean the mechanism. You are right I should have showed that. Thanks for watching and your comments. Cheers. Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures I had the same question; how'd you clean it. But mentioning an ear bud and some WD40 does help going in the right direction. I hope...
Anyway, you did save me on my trip with explaining how you opened it, so my gratitude you shall have! Thanks!
Wow, what am I missing. I fill up my gas tank how often in my GSA. Nothing like a key that works 100% of the time. Been doing it for near 50 years.
Great that you dont have these problems. Cheers. Billy
Give it a good clean - doesn’t show cleaning or pin position before changing frames to close it back up…skip the first 3 mins and focus on how to
Hi CEPrepper. Thanks for watching and your comment. I should perhaps have mentioned that I used some WD40 and a rag to clean it. The reason I did not show it was because you would not have seen anything as filming the actual cleaning of, my hands would have blocked the view due to the very small area i was cleaning. The pin position is as it is because when the pin is in the lock position the lid is closed. Cheers Billy
So first BMW go out of their way by fitting indicator buttons on each handlebar and a cancel button on the throttle side … now they put electronics instead of a key for something as everyday as ‘filling it up’ .. they take away the rear light and substitute it with indicators …. I like my BMW but I seriously doubt I’d upgrade to a new one … they are trying to be clever when clever in reality is /was thought of decades ago … if it ain’t broke don’t fix it ( obviously BMW enjoys all the LED lighting and electronic fuel locks as they know they have customers at the parts department for years and years ahead
I was aware of this already and had to perform it. While one is there...take the time to lubricate all moving parts after a good cleaning.
That will keep things moving smoothly for a longer period of time
Thanks for watching and your feedback. Cheers. Billy
That's great. I know how to nick fuel from my mates BMW ☺
Ah, don't tell him Billy sent you 😮
@@BillysBikeAdventures haha, OK what's in it 4 me then 😜
😂😂
So my attempt resulted in me dropping the bracket into the petrol tank!!! Had to make a hook and scoop it out!! Was a very stressful experience!
Ah mate that does sound stressful. So glad that you got it out though. These things happen. I greased up my final drive a couple of years ago and the shaft came off completely, managed to get it back on though. Thanks for watching. Cheers. Billy
No keyless for me thanks anyway :-) Good old keys nothing wrong with.
I tend to agree. More trouble than they are worth sometimes
Too much electronics in BMW bikes, they need to back peddle a little and go back to key start and a key to open the tank. This is an Adventure bike, not a city bike so keep it simple BMW. The dealer told me to keep a WD40 on the bike, not acceptable BMW, get rid of the problem as customers pay a lot of money for a GS.
I totally agree that some electronics on bikes have gone just to o far. I am always having issues with the battery in my key fob. Never enough charge. Thanks for watching and your comments. Cheers. Billy
Thank god I'll never have to bother with that! I'd never own something with this much electric - even EFI and ABS is too much! 😌 But it's still good to know in case I come by a GS owner that has that problem.
Hi Herla. Thanks for watching and comment. Even the modern 690 Enduro / Husky 701 has ABS etc. Great that you have a bike that does not have as much electric. I do like my T7, its simplicity of just ABS and nothing else. NO issues with key entry to petrol tank. Was bound to happen to my GSA at some stage. Cheers Billy
Another example of BMW creating useless problematic marketing features such as keyless engine start, & keyless fuel cap. So BMW workaround to open fuel cap, now means that anyone can siphon fuel from the bike - without the key - by using a torz driver. Also means anyone can sabotage fuel by access to the fuel cap via the torx screws. So the 'dance' has got more complicated, & opened pandora's box.
I agree to some of your points especially on the complicated nature of keyless ride. The key fob always telling me battery low. Its a pain. Everything else you mentioned, if people want to nick fuel they will get much more from a car or lorry. not worried about fuel being siphoned. Thanks for watching. Cheers. Billy
I knew it and it's a piece of st. You pay lot of money for a system that can be bypassed with a simple allen or torx key in two minute. It's a shame from BMW to make such a poor technical design. 😤
I don't like it either. Give me back a key lock petrol tank lid any day and no fancy keyless ride. It does cause me nothing but bother to be honest. Thanks for watching. Cheers. BIlly
@@BillysBikeAdventures Same request for me. I discovered it when I upgraded the OEM fog pod lights to DENALI, because (and this is another subject of course) the original lighting setup on this bike is realy poor and once again, we pay a lot for this...
good to, clean over time...bought a 750 gs from dealer last week, He could not open the cap to show me how it works....SHUT OF IGNITION DUMMY. I MUCH prefer it be use a real key, so dependent on key fob with a 1 year battery in it controlling to much.
Hi Ed. Kind of getting that thinking myself as well. Key to open no issues at all! Thanks for watching and your comment. Enjoy the 750, I have not ridden one yet Cheers Billy
$35 k bike and a crappy looking fuel tank , these BMWs are just exspensive lemons , wish I hadn’t brought one , have had nothing but issues with locks , lights etc 😡
Ah no, I am really gutted that you have had that experience with your BMW. Apart from the key fob running out o battery really quickly, mine has been all good. Are you going to change? Cheers Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures yeah I still have the bike but on top of that issue , I had the headlight crap out the first week , the seat lock broke in the second week and don’t get me started on the soft crappy material used on the passenger seat (pretty much all happens with in the first month ) so my impressions of BMw and its build quality is very low (as well as thier after purchase support ) personally I wouldn’t buy another one (no need anyway , they are a very expensive lemon )
I just did this fix, only to discover that what i really needed to do was to turn the bike off 😆
Switching on and off definitely did not work for me. I am curious, if you did the fix how did you then discover that all you needed to do was to switch the bike on and off? Cheers Billy
@@BillysBikeAdventures Because i first did the fix only to discover that the lid still did not open. After i parked the bike and turned off the ignition i though "i'll give it ONE more try" -and VOILÃ. And then it dawned on me: aaah, of course: the ignition must be swithed off for the lid to open. (Just like a bike with ordinary key really- kinda hard to unlock the lid if you dont take the key from the ignition 😄)