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With SOOOOOOOO many 80/20 extruded sim rigs out there to pick from, it can get a little blurry with what would be the best for any given individual. It's overwhelming. Having stumbled onto this rig in my daily research, I was pointed to this review, and it gave me ALL of the information I needed to make the decision that this is the right rig for me. Thanks for the video and effort, it's truly appreciated.
It really is a gorgeous looking rig George. Personally, I think the cable management clips fit in well. And, if you have a permament sim racing setup, you could certainly do a better job than I did at tidying the cables. 👍
Ive got the F-GT with a DD attached and its solid as a rock, i wouldn't change that rig even if you paid me, it's a top tier rig imo and cheap too.... Id recommend it to anyone...
Currently in the market for one of these after not being 100% satisfied with my improvised setup for my PlaySeat F1. You have been a big help with answering my unasked questions. Thanks 👌🏽
You want the new trackmaster dude... get the Fanatec new Gran turismo Direct Drive wheel bundle for $1,000 too it's super cheap and drops in May they are even better, stronger, and smoother than belt driven wheels and the trackmaster filly fitted is just $1,000 too and you'll never have to get a new one again... th-cam.com/video/IfTkBjuAahY/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/BHDJEfqYSGo/w-d-xo.html That's what it'll look like
Hey loved the review! Just a quick question? Do you find that the tall side arms of the cockpit obscure your view? They stick up quite a way and its probably the only major concern I have with getting this cockpit if I do decide to pull the trigger on buying one
Thanks for you question Angus-I'm stoked you liked the review. That's something that I was initially concerned with also. However, when racing I didn't really notice them and they actually helped with the immersion factor by resembling parts of a roll cage. If it is an issue for you though, you can easily raise the seat and pedal deck up to mitigate for this. Hope that helps. 👍
Can u suggest a FGT cockpit that is - 1. VFM, budget friendly ~ $600-700 2. Sturdy enough for CSL DD 3. Easy to change from GT to formula & back 4. Suitable for games like ets2 to F1. Any suggestions for a slider seat? I’ve seen TR80 mk5, FGT elite/ lite/ 160. But don’t know the difference between them. I’m 5’11”& 70k
Thanks for your question Moonlight. The Next Level Racing F-GT Lite would be the most affordable option ( th-cam.com/video/B9w_4PwtAj4/w-d-xo.html ). However, when running a CSL DD, you'd probably want to use extra straps to increase the rigidity of the rig. See my recent review of the GT Lite Pro for more insights here ( th-cam.com/video/JJpJ7OPT9Lw/w-d-xo.html ). The F-GT Elite is a fantastic option, with the 160 version utlilising thicker aluminium profile. However, as you know, it's a more expensive cockpit. Have you considered the F-GT? It's a solid mid-range rig built with carbon steel and very easy to adjust driving positions. You can also use our coupon code 'ADAPT' to get 5% discount at Next Level Racing ( adaptnet.work/F-GT ). Hope that helps. 👍
Great review! I just finished building mine and waiting for seat to come in tomorrow. Your wheel position and shifter position are helping me see how I’m going to fine tune things once the seat is in place. Right now the standard shifter position seems too high and forward for me. I have the Fanatec SQ 1.5. Wheel deck is also high when rig is initially built. Thanks
simlab alot better i dont like it resting on the floor rather have feets that let it stand rather laying on thye floor and it has alot flex you will see what i mean
Thanks for your kind words mate-I'm stoked you found the review useful. You can actually lower the shifter arm right to the base if needed. In this case, simply install the shifter support bar in front of the shifter plate, so it doesn't get in the way (14:09). 👍
Thanks for your comment @@arubaelitesimracer1769. I'm a big fan of Sim-Lab rigs also (see my GT1 Evo review: th-cam.com/video/TtfTOfG8xb0/w-d-xo.html ). To clarify though, the F-GT Elite does come with feet (11:30). However, I chose not to install these because the rig slides reasonably well on carpet without them. Additionally, with my Fanatec CSL DD and ClubSport V3 pedals, I didn't notice any flex. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork I did notice after words that they do have feet for the rig I use simucube pro and hydrolic pedals and both top and feet had flex on the next level racing cock pit the one your show casing not much not saying a lot but it did had my simlab px1 not even a Little Rock solid but I do like the look on the next level racing cock pit looks pretty cool
@@ADAPTNetwork yeah for the fanatic csl dd which doesn’t have much Nm and plus club sport v3 I wouldn’t think either that it would have much flex wait till you use simucube pro and hydrolic pedals you will see the flex I’m talking about not much but on did notice and showed
Best review of this cockpit on the web period. Wondering if you are able to tell me the height of your desk as I'm also looking at a similar setup to see if I have enough clearance to slide it undernearth.
Thanks for your kind words spchia-I'm stoked you liked the review. In this video, I used the Fully Remi standing desk ( th-cam.com/video/u6mZ3koQr2k/w-d-xo.html ) set at its lowest height (68.5cm including the desktop). Hope that helps. 👍
Fantastic video. Really informative, excellent presentation, and very, very helpful insights. Just wondering, as the upright wheel mount beams seem quite tall, do they ever interfere with your view of the screen?
Thanks for you comment Brickrunner-I'm stoked you liked the review. That's something that I was initially concerned with also. However, when racing I didn't really notice them and they actually helped with the immersion factor by resembling parts of a roll cage. If it is an issue for you though, you can easily raise the seat and pedal deck up to mitigate for this. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks so much for your reply. It’s reassuring to know the vertical beams shouldn’t be an issue. Going to bite the bullet and order it. Really appreciate your help 👍.
Fantastic Review bro, I am considering this rig, I would love to know how much the whole setup costs? + Is this a big rig because I have a decent sized room because I don’t want to but it then it doesn’t fit
Thanks for your comment A-I'm stoked you liked the review. Not including the PC or monitor, the total cost of this setup is £2,742 (UK) / $3,148.99 (US). See the cost breakdown below. 👇 F-GT Elite cockpit - front & side mount edition: £999 (UK) / $1,099.99 (US) - amzn.to/3JUOHnx ES1 sim racing seat: £399 (UK) / $449 (US) - amzn.to/3IPRayn Fanatec CSL DD wheel base (8Nm): £420 (UK) / $500 (US) - adaptnet.work/CSLDD Fanatec Podium Steering Wheel R300: £420 (UK) / $500 (US) - adaptnet.work/R300 Fanatec Clubsport Pedals V3: £340 (UK) / $400 (US) - adaptnet.work/CSPedalsV3 Thrustmaster TH8A shifter: £164 (UK) / $200 (US) - amzn.to/3SRQr5Y Fully assembled, the F-GT Elite has a base footprint of just 121 x 65cm (4:01). However, you’ll probably need to allow for more space to accommodate the seat, pedal deck and shifter mount, depending on their orientations. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your comment Giuseppe. It depends on what type of experience you're looking for really. Both seats are comfortable, however, the ERS1 is definitely the most comfy over long driving sessions and has independent recline adjustment. The ES1 though, feels more like a race-ready bucket seat, which helps with the immersion factor. Hope that helps. 👍
I'd add to Adapt's reply that the bucket does not flex at all. Due to their design, all reclining seats flex, but this seems to be not a major issue for all but the most discerning racers.
Thanks for your comment MR. Pixel. I've been really impressed with the innovation that Next Level Racing has been bringing to it's latest sim racing products.
Thanks for your question Victory Road. Yes, the seat brackets that come with the F-GT Elite are compatible with most side mounted bucket seats. You can also mount other car seats using a compatible seat slider. Same goes with third-party hanesses and seat belts. Hope that helps. 👍
May I ask what your height is? I ask because someone (5' 7-1/2") posted in reddit about the wheel being too close to the torso. With the pedals already close back at rear-most part of the wheel's slant bar, pushing the wheel's slant bar forward pushes pedals forward too, making the pedals out of reach. Like the design was made for taller individuals.
Thanks for your question JGloc. I'm about 5ft 9.5 inches (176.5cm) and average build. As you can see from the video, I was able to drive in a very comfortable position and there is room to move the pedals closer still. There is also scope to move the wheel plate or wheel side-mount brackets back a bit. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork I see. Worried it might be at the limits for shorter guys. In hindsight, just saw you also reviewed the GT Elite. Perhaps that would provide more room backwards? As I saw the pedal arms could be brought further back, is this accurate? Or are they both the same (F-GT Elite and GT Elite... brake to wheel plate)? One more favor pls. Do you know the height from the ground until the highest mounting point on the seat brackets? Would like to compare the height from my NLR Elite office chair's lowest position. Thanks!
Good spot @@jgloc25; on the GT Elite, the pedal deck arms are connected on the inside edge of the wheel mount uprights. By defualt, they connect using a long pass-through bolt, which limits the amount of backward movement. However, you could use T-nuts instead, which would enable you to slide the pedal deck further back ( th-cam.com/video/czXXNvPJaPI/w-d-xo.html ). Does that make sense? Regarding the seat height: the highest seat mounting point is about 30cm from the floor, on the F-GT Elite, and 20cm from the floor, on the GT Elite (without feet installed).
@@ADAPTNetwork Thanks. Are these T-nuts included in the GT Elite set already? First time to use extrusions. For the height, this is with the Universal Seat Bracket, right? Thought their height would be the same.
@@jgloc25 I own the GT Elite with the ES1 seat, and my partner has tried it. She's 5 ft 2, I'm 6 ft 0. There is enough adjustment in the pedal tray and seat sliders (see video) to accommodate both of us (well, one at a time!)
Great review!! One quick question, what is rhe part number that is needed to hold a single screen? I have seen the nlr-e 014 and 017 bit not sure which one is right for the fgt elite side mount wheel. Thanks
Thanks for your comment Julio-I'm stoked you liked the review. You'll need the F-GT Elite direct monitor mount - carbon grey (part number: NLR-E014): amzn.to/3EVoUfs
Thanks for your question EiaC. Next Level Racing has selected mid-weight 40100 profile (measuring 40 x 100mm) for the base, 4080 profile (measuring 40 x 80mm) for the wheel mount and shifter uprights, and four pieces of 4040 profile (measuring 40 x 40mm) for the seat rails and pedal deck (4:15). It's slightly lighter grade than Sim-Lab profile (4:51). However, it has the same core width (15mm). Hope that helps. 👍
Great review thanks ! You mention the length but what is exactly the length when you are in formula position from the top of the seat to the pedals support ? How tall are you ? 🙂 Thanks again for your reviews 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks for your comment Gegen-I'm stoked you liked the review. In the formula postition, I measured the F-GT Elite to be about 185 x 65cm. Of course, this will vary depending on the angle and position of the seat. For reference, I'm about 5ft 9.5 inches (176.5cm) and average build. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your kind words Ghastous. I'm a big fan of Sim-Lab rigs also (see my GT1 Evo review: th-cam.com/video/TtfTOfG8xb0/w-d-xo.html ). No doubt the P1-X is a fantastic cockpit and probably more flex resistant for very high-end pedals. However, with my Fanatec CSL DD and ClubSport V3 pedals, I didn't notice any flex on the F-GT Elite. Additionally, the F-GT Elite has the advantage of being able to support both formula and GT driving positions easily. So, there's pros and cons either way I guess. 👍
Thanks for your question Rafal. I think the ES1 sim racing seat will fit you well. I'm about 176.5cm tall and around 65kg and I felt very secure in the seat as the sides tuck in more closely around the torso. Hope that helps. 👍
A bit late to the party, but perhaps helpful for others: I have the ES1. I'm 182cm (6 ft) and 80kg (176 lb). It fits me like a glove. VERY comfortable, and totally flex free. FWIW, I have it mounted to it's little brother, the GT Elite (wheelplate edition), which is GT style only, and flex-free.
Hello, Superb video as usual. I love your in-depth analyzes of the world of simracing. I would like to know what is the height of the seat from the ground on this cockpit?? Please give me the measurement from the floor to the cockpit seat. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for your kind words Casoni-I'm stoked you liked the review. In the lowest position, the seat sits about 20cm from the floor. This extends to 30cm in the highest position. You can also lift the entire cockpit using the included shock-absorbing feet. In this case, the seat will sit about 35cm from the floor. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your question Cheetah. Looking at the measurments of the Spaco GP, I think it should fit the seat brackets, included with the F-GT Elite, without any problems. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your question mate. The pedal deck uprights are 50cm and the wheel mount uprights are 84cm, as measured from the floor. Does that answer your question, or where you looking for the height of a different part?
@@ADAPTNetwork okay thanks for that, also wanted to know what the base length is from the pedal front to the back of the seat in a gt position, so far I can fit it under my desk if I was to purchase it, however I need to be sure it will fit length-wise from front to back.
No worries @@AdzzVR. The base length is 121cm from front to back (4:01). However, you'll probably need to allow for about 150cm, as the pedal deck arms extend forward in a GT position. Hope that helps. 👍
Great review, appreciate the depth you went into. I'm looking into getting this to replace my old rig. Quick question about the shifter mounting - I want to be able to switch my shifter to the left or right side depending on the car that I am driving (RHD vs LHD); how easy is it to switch the shifter to the other side?
It's not difficult, but it is too time consuming to do it on the fly for complete interchangeability. Planning ahead to ensure you have the slots inserted on both sides would help though.
Thanks for your comment M & C-I'm stoked you liked the review. Like Andrew says, it's not difficult to switch your shifter from side to side, but it is a bit time consuming. I would suggest reaching out to Next Level Racing to purchase an additional shifter arm and shifer plate. You can then install this on the other side of your rig so you would only need to move the actual shifter. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork that's actually a great idea! I mean just having an arm on the opposite side, built up would be great. Switching the plate over with the shifter wouldnt be too much of a hassle. If you go down the full arm route it (opposed to the direct method) would arguably give the rig more rigidity too - not that it has much flex anyway.
Thanks Sbin-I'm stoked you liked the review. The seat brackets that come with the F-GT Elite are compatible with most side mounted bucket seats. I previously tested the Sim-Lab SPEED1, which I would recommend ( th-cam.com/video/TtfTOfG8xb0/w-d-xo.html ). Next Level Racing has also just released the ERS1 seat ( th-cam.com/video/9NUVtCPOUvk/w-d-xo.html ). I'll be reviewing this shortly and it could be a good option if you want a reclining seat. Hope that helps. 👍
love my simlab px 1 strong sturdy and cant have it not laying the floor and no flex at all anywhere and better price this cock pit from next level racing has flex on the paddles and where steering wheel is at not much but you can see the flex trried it didnt like for the rest it looks the coolest pretty only con is u can change f1 to gt quick nothing else and how it looks
Thanks for your comment Aruba. I'm a big fan of Sim-Lab rigs also (see my GT1 Evo review: th-cam.com/video/TtfTOfG8xb0/w-d-xo.html ). To clarify though, the F-GT Elite does come with feet (11:30). However, I chose not to install these because the rig slides reasonably well on carpet without them. Additionally, with my Fanatec CSL DD and ClubSport V3 pedals, I didn't notice any flex. Based on profile thickness, however, the P1 X is probably slightly more flex resistant for very high-end pedals. Like you said though, the F-GT Elite has the advantage of being able to support both formula and GT driving positions easily. 👍
Thanks for your comment @@amigoz3201. The XT120 looks like a very robust cockpit. The F-GT Elite does, however, boast a number of unique features that are worth considering in my opinion. Plus, you have to admit, it's a good-looking rig! 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork it looks ok, but what it has more than xt120? I think nothing… and it even dont has front DD mount for the 1050 eur, come on man, you already understand what i mean ;)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts @@amigoz3201. The F-GT Elite has been designed to switch between formula, GT, and multiple hybrid configurations straight out-of-the-box. Additionally, it's fully compatible with Next Level Racing's motion ecosystem and comes with a number of included extras. It's also worth pointing out that the retail price includes shipping. I agree though, that the XT120 looks very good value for money as an aluminum profile GT rig. 👍
Hi Tornadeitor, thanks for your question. The pedal deck uprights are about 50cm in length, so the pedals can be raised to a maximum height of about 40cm from the base profile. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork gracias. Entonces es 40cm lo maximo que se puede colocar pedales? A contar a partir de la base horizontal? He dejado comentario anterior pero no se que pasa se ha borrado.
Gracias amigo. Yo tengo un cockpit aluminio y he comprado 4 perfiles 350mm, ahora he puesto pedales lo mas alto posible pero no se si esta bien posicion f1 o esta un poco bajo. Por favor, te pido, si alguna vez colocas los pedales arriba del todo, y te acuerdas, enviame una foto o algun pequeño video que yo pueda ver hasta donde te llegan los pies respecto a tu cuerpo, gracias
@@tornadeitor Check out the driving positions segment of the video (9:03) to see the F-GT Elite in the formula position with the pedals at the highest position. Hope that helps. 👍
Hey adapt nextwork great review mate am currently in the market looking for a new rig too but am in a loft bedroom for mine so space can be quite limited until i change my room around by moving my bed to another room we have and ive measured it out so it comes to Seat height is 100cm width from top view is 50cm bottom is 45cm the length is 130cm and pedal plate is width 36cm by length 30cm thats a playseat evolution rig am currently on but not too keen on it as find it awkward to get in and out of it with the centre column dont like it between my legs and always feel cramped in a hunch position with the wheel deck because theres not much room for manoeuvre currently have same wheel rig as you too but the formula v2 rim red version and csl pedals along with advanced paddle module was looking at this one but the price for it is ridiculous in my eyes then you have to buy seat separately which is incredibly expensive so if you know of any other options that would fit the middle range budget if you like it would be helpful looking at the psr1 rig too by next level anywhere also the trak racer tr80 or gt1 evo as another option
Thanks for your kind words Dan-I'm stoked you liked the review. I think the F-GT Elite will be a bit too big for your current space. The Sim-Lab GT1 Evo could be a good option (here's my review: th-cam.com/video/TtfTOfG8xb0/w-d-xo.html ). It has a base footprint of 135 x 55cm, so you may need to find a little extra space still. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork yeah am leading more towards that mate after watching your review on that too just a question would the playseat its self along with the rails that come with be able to screw on to the base of the evo ? thats what am thinking of doing 🤔And with me being in the uk too like when i got the csl dd from fanatec are there brexit charges still in place if you know ? And one more if i did do that with the seat should i buy any extra parts before i place my order ?
@@DanMufc-jt9le In order to mount the Playseat Evolution seat to the GT1 Evo, I think you would need an additional seat slider ( adaptnet.work/7jG5 ). You would then bend the seat slider to match the width of the seat, bolt it to the base of the seat, and then bolt the seat slider to the seat rails of the cockpit. Does that make sense? It's also worth picking up the shifter & handbrake mount, as this doesn't come with the cockpit as standard ( adaptnet.work/6Muv ). Digital Motorsports has a blog post regarding post-Brexit import charges (see here: adaptnet.work/3WhT ). My understanding is that products are sold without VAT. The shipping company then charges UK VAT and a small handling. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork right ok mate thats good to know very helpful mate thanks for that would it be worth sticking with the standard wheel base mount you get with the evo to hold the csl dd bare in mind i got the 8nm one or get sim labs upgraded one ? am not an expert on diy myself so just thinking of a list on what to buy Am also thinking i currently play on a lg c1 48 inch tv for xbox/ps5 etc so like the monitor stand you show in the video would that hold the weight you reckon so i could have that as my ultimate gaming rig 😍and can sit back chill out on my playseat and play games when not driving or would that look overkill on it 🤔Am not to bothered about shifter and mount at the moment as i have the paddle advanced module on my wheel base so ill just use them for now And how was the delivery days for you mate how long did it take for them to send it you and if you had any probs ?
@@DanMufc-jt9le I also have the 8Nm boost kit for the CSL DD and I think the standard GT1 Evo wheel deck would be perfectly stable. As I mentioned in the review, the GT1 Evo comes with a pack of M8 washers to ensure a more rigid connection between the wheel deck and frame. However, it's also worth picking up a pack of M6 washers to help with mounting the wheel base to the wheel deck. Additionally, the Sim-Lab side-mount brackets ( adaptnet.work/7jI4 ) are not compatible with the single screen holder I reviewed. That being said, I think the single screen holder would be more than strong enough to support your 48 inch TV. And, if you did want to use the side-mount brackets, you could still mount your TV using the integrated monitor mount ( adaptnet.work/7jI6 ). Regarding shipping, my GT1 Evo arrived before the new Brexit rules came into place. However, subsequent deliveries from Europe have been pretty speedy. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks for your comment mate. The F-GT Elite is certainly not the cheapest aluminium profile cockpit. However, it's worth noting that shipping is included at that price. Plus, you get a lot of included extras; parts like the seat sliders, buttkicker mount and cable clips are things that other brands only supply separately.
So not as heavy as the p1 meaning less aluminum and less strength. The $500 plastic set is ridiculous and for the price being more expensive then the p1 is bigggggg nope
Thanks for your comment Aj. I'm a big fan of Sim-Lab rigs also (see my GT1 Evo review: th-cam.com/video/TtfTOfG8xb0/w-d-xo.html ). No doubt the P1-X is a fantastic cockpit and probably more flex resistant for very high-end pedals. However, with my Fanatec CSL DD and ClubSport V3 pedals, I didn't notice any flex on the F-GT Elite. Additionally, the F-GT Elite has the advantage of being able to support both formula and GT driving positions easily. So, there's pros and cons either way I guess. 👍
Thanks for your comment El Maha. The F-GT Elite is certainly not the cheapest aluminium profile cockpit. However, it's worth noting that shipping is included at that price. Plus, you get a lot of included extras; parts like the seat sliders, buttkicker mount and cable clips are things that other brands only supply separately.
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With SOOOOOOOO many 80/20 extruded sim rigs out there to pick from, it can get a little blurry with what would be the best for any given individual. It's overwhelming. Having stumbled onto this rig in my daily research, I was pointed to this review, and it gave me ALL of the information I needed to make the decision that this is the right rig for me. Thanks for the video and effort, it's truly appreciated.
Thanks for your kind words dude; I'm stoked you found the review useful. Happy sim racing man. 🏎🏁
The research and time involved to make such a good looking rig and the cable management is definitely an after thought.
It really is a gorgeous looking rig George. Personally, I think the cable management clips fit in well. And, if you have a permament sim racing setup, you could certainly do a better job than I did at tidying the cables. 👍
Ive got the F-GT with a DD attached and its solid as a rock, i wouldn't change that rig even if you paid me, it's a top tier rig imo and cheap too....
Id recommend it to anyone...
Thanks for your comment Curlee. Great to hear that you're enjoying the F-GT. 👍
Awesome review man! Told me everything I was hoping to find out that wasn't obvious on the manufacturer website.
Thanks mate-I'm stoked you liked the review. Happy sim racing! 🏎🏁
Currently in the market for one of these after not being 100% satisfied with my improvised setup for my PlaySeat F1. You have been a big help with answering my unasked questions. Thanks 👌🏽
Thanks for your comment
Shannon-I'm really glad I could help. You'll love the F-GT Elite!
You want the new trackmaster dude... get the Fanatec new Gran turismo Direct Drive wheel bundle for $1,000 too it's super cheap and drops in May they are even better, stronger, and smoother than belt driven wheels and the trackmaster filly fitted is just $1,000 too and you'll never have to get a new one again...
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That's what it'll look like
Thanks for sharing your thoughts @@Ellesdy1. The TR120 looks like a very solid rig. 👍
Got myself one of these cockpits, very happy with it !
Thanks for your comment Dallas. I'm stoked to hear that you're enjoying the F-GT Elite-it's a fantastic rig in my opinion! 👍
Hey loved the review! Just a quick question? Do you find that the tall side arms of the cockpit obscure your view? They stick up quite a way and its probably the only major concern I have with getting this cockpit if I do decide to pull the trigger on buying one
Thanks for you question Angus-I'm stoked you liked the review. That's something that I was initially concerned with also. However, when racing I didn't really notice them and they actually helped with the immersion factor by resembling parts of a roll cage. If it is an issue for you though, you can easily raise the seat and pedal deck up to mitigate for this. Hope that helps. 👍
Can u suggest a FGT cockpit that is -
1. VFM, budget friendly ~ $600-700
2. Sturdy enough for CSL DD
3. Easy to change from GT to formula & back
4. Suitable for games like ets2 to F1.
Any suggestions for a slider seat?
I’ve seen TR80 mk5, FGT elite/ lite/ 160. But don’t know the difference between them. I’m 5’11”& 70k
Thanks for your question Moonlight. The Next Level Racing F-GT Lite would be the most affordable option ( th-cam.com/video/B9w_4PwtAj4/w-d-xo.html ). However, when running a CSL DD, you'd probably want to use extra straps to increase the rigidity of the rig. See my recent review of the GT Lite Pro for more insights here ( th-cam.com/video/JJpJ7OPT9Lw/w-d-xo.html ). The F-GT Elite is a fantastic option, with the 160 version utlilising thicker aluminium profile. However, as you know, it's a more expensive cockpit. Have you considered the F-GT? It's a solid mid-range rig built with carbon steel and very easy to adjust driving positions. You can also use our coupon code 'ADAPT' to get 5% discount at Next Level Racing ( adaptnet.work/F-GT ). Hope that helps. 👍
Great review! I just finished building mine and waiting for seat to come in tomorrow. Your wheel position and shifter position are helping me see how I’m going to fine tune things once the seat is in place. Right now the standard shifter position seems too high and forward for me. I have the Fanatec SQ 1.5. Wheel deck is also high when rig is initially built. Thanks
simlab alot better i dont like it resting on the floor rather have feets that let it stand rather laying on thye floor and it has alot flex you will see what i mean
Thanks for your kind words mate-I'm stoked you found the review useful. You can actually lower the shifter arm right to the base if needed. In this case, simply install the shifter support bar in front of the shifter plate, so it doesn't get in the way (14:09). 👍
Thanks for your comment @@arubaelitesimracer1769. I'm a big fan of Sim-Lab rigs also (see my GT1 Evo review: th-cam.com/video/TtfTOfG8xb0/w-d-xo.html ). To clarify though, the F-GT Elite does come with feet (11:30). However, I chose not to install these because the rig slides reasonably well on carpet without them. Additionally, with my Fanatec CSL DD and ClubSport V3 pedals, I didn't notice any flex. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork I did notice after words that they do have feet for the rig I use simucube pro and hydrolic pedals and both top and feet had flex on the next level racing cock pit the one your show casing not much not saying a lot but it did had my simlab px1 not even a Little Rock solid but I do like the look on the next level racing cock pit looks pretty cool
@@ADAPTNetwork yeah for the fanatic csl dd which doesn’t have much Nm and plus club sport v3 I wouldn’t think either that it would have much flex wait till you use simucube pro and hydrolic pedals you will see the flex I’m talking about not much but on did notice and showed
Very nice review, thank you
Thanks for the kind words SimRacer-I'm stoked you liked the review. 🤙
Putting mine together as we speak
That's awesome mate-enjoy the new rig. 👍
Nice
Best review of this cockpit on the web period. Wondering if you are able to tell me the height of your desk as I'm also looking at a similar setup to see if I have enough clearance to slide it undernearth.
Thanks for your kind words spchia-I'm stoked you liked the review. In this video, I used the Fully Remi standing desk ( th-cam.com/video/u6mZ3koQr2k/w-d-xo.html ) set at its lowest height (68.5cm including the desktop). Hope that helps. 👍
Fantastic video. Really informative, excellent presentation, and very, very helpful insights.
Just wondering, as the upright wheel mount beams seem quite tall, do they ever interfere with your view of the screen?
Thanks for you comment Brickrunner-I'm stoked you liked the review. That's something that I was initially concerned with also. However, when racing I didn't really notice them and they actually helped with the immersion factor by resembling parts of a roll cage. If it is an issue for you though, you can easily raise the seat and pedal deck up to mitigate for this. Hope that helps. 👍
Thanks so much for your reply. It’s reassuring to know the vertical beams shouldn’t be an issue. Going to bite the bullet and order it. Really appreciate your help 👍.
Fantastic Review bro, I am considering this rig, I would love to know how much the whole setup costs? + Is this a big rig because I have a decent sized room because I don’t want to but it then it doesn’t fit
Thanks for your comment A-I'm stoked you liked the review.
Not including the PC or monitor, the total cost of this setup is £2,742 (UK) / $3,148.99 (US). See the cost breakdown below. 👇
F-GT Elite cockpit - front & side mount edition: £999 (UK) / $1,099.99 (US) - amzn.to/3JUOHnx
ES1 sim racing seat: £399 (UK) / $449 (US) - amzn.to/3IPRayn
Fanatec CSL DD wheel base (8Nm): £420 (UK) / $500 (US) - adaptnet.work/CSLDD
Fanatec Podium Steering Wheel R300: £420 (UK) / $500 (US) - adaptnet.work/R300
Fanatec Clubsport Pedals V3: £340 (UK) / $400 (US) - adaptnet.work/CSPedalsV3
Thrustmaster TH8A shifter: £164 (UK) / $200 (US) - amzn.to/3SRQr5Y
Fully assembled, the F-GT Elite has a base footprint of just 121 x 65cm (4:01). However, you’ll probably need to allow for more space to accommodate the seat, pedal deck and shifter mount, depending on their orientations. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork thanks for the help 🙏🏼
HELP! I can't decide between ERS1 seat or ES1 seat
Thanks for your comment Giuseppe. It depends on what type of experience you're looking for really. Both seats are comfortable, however, the ERS1 is definitely the most comfy over long driving sessions and has independent recline adjustment. The ES1 though, feels more like a race-ready bucket seat, which helps with the immersion factor. Hope that helps. 👍
I'd add to Adapt's reply that the bucket does not flex at all. Due to their design, all reclining seats flex, but this seems to be not a major issue for all but the most discerning racers.
I am biased for this brand because I am also an Aussie
Thanks for your comment MR. Pixel. I've been really impressed with the innovation that Next Level Racing has been bringing to it's latest sim racing products.
Same. In Melbourne. Owned 2 GT Lite rigs, and now a GT Elite. Customer service is amazing.
Is F-GT Elite compatible with third party seats and harnesses like Trak Racer?
Thanks for your question Victory Road. Yes, the seat brackets that come with the F-GT Elite are compatible with most side mounted bucket seats. You can also mount other car seats using a compatible seat slider. Same goes with third-party hanesses and seat belts. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork thank you so much for the response. This will help definitely.👍🏽👍🏽
May I ask what your height is? I ask because someone (5' 7-1/2") posted in reddit about the wheel being too close to the torso. With the pedals already close back at rear-most part of the wheel's slant bar, pushing the wheel's slant bar forward pushes pedals forward too, making the pedals out of reach. Like the design was made for taller individuals.
Thanks for your question JGloc. I'm about 5ft 9.5 inches (176.5cm) and average build. As you can see from the video, I was able to drive in a very comfortable position and there is room to move the pedals closer still. There is also scope to move the wheel plate or wheel side-mount brackets back a bit. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork I see. Worried it might be at the limits for shorter guys. In hindsight, just saw you also reviewed the GT Elite. Perhaps that would provide more room backwards? As I saw the pedal arms could be brought further back, is this accurate? Or are they both the same (F-GT Elite and GT Elite... brake to wheel plate)?
One more favor pls. Do you know the height from the ground until the highest mounting point on the seat brackets? Would like to compare the height from my NLR Elite office chair's lowest position. Thanks!
Good spot @@jgloc25; on the GT Elite, the pedal deck arms are connected on the inside edge of the wheel mount uprights. By defualt, they connect using a long pass-through bolt, which limits the amount of backward movement. However, you could use T-nuts instead, which would enable you to slide the pedal deck further back ( th-cam.com/video/czXXNvPJaPI/w-d-xo.html ). Does that make sense?
Regarding the seat height: the highest seat mounting point is about 30cm from the floor, on the F-GT Elite, and 20cm from the floor, on the GT Elite (without feet installed).
@@ADAPTNetwork Thanks. Are these T-nuts included in the GT Elite set already? First time to use extrusions.
For the height, this is with the Universal Seat Bracket, right? Thought their height would be the same.
@@jgloc25 I own the GT Elite with the ES1 seat, and my partner has tried it. She's 5 ft 2, I'm 6 ft 0. There is enough adjustment in the pedal tray and seat sliders (see video) to accommodate both of us (well, one at a time!)
Great review!! One quick question, what is rhe part number that is needed to hold a single screen? I have seen the nlr-e 014 and 017 bit not sure which one is right for the fgt elite side mount wheel. Thanks
Thanks for your comment Julio-I'm stoked you liked the review. You'll need the F-GT Elite direct monitor mount - carbon grey (part number: NLR-E014): amzn.to/3EVoUfs
what are the masurements of the aluminum, i mean, is it 8020 or bigger? and thickness? thank you!!im looking to buy a used one
Thanks for your question EiaC. Next Level Racing has selected mid-weight 40100 profile (measuring 40 x 100mm) for the base, 4080 profile (measuring 40 x 80mm) for the wheel mount and shifter uprights, and four pieces of 4040 profile (measuring 40 x 40mm) for the seat rails and pedal deck (4:15). It's slightly lighter grade than Sim-Lab profile (4:51). However, it has the same core width (15mm). Hope that helps. 👍
Great review thanks !
You mention the length but what is exactly the length when you are in formula position from the top of the seat to the pedals support ?
How tall are you ? 🙂
Thanks again for your reviews 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks for your comment Gegen-I'm stoked you liked the review. In the formula postition, I measured the F-GT Elite to be about 185 x 65cm. Of course, this will vary depending on the angle and position of the seat. For reference, I'm about 5ft 9.5 inches (176.5cm) and average build. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork thanks a lot for your feed back, It's very nice to have specific feedback like yours. Good job keep it up !
No worries @@gegen1769-glad I could help.
Great review its just a shame the P1X is still the better option as its cheaper.
Thanks for your kind words Ghastous. I'm a big fan of Sim-Lab rigs also (see my GT1 Evo review: th-cam.com/video/TtfTOfG8xb0/w-d-xo.html ). No doubt the P1-X is a fantastic cockpit and probably more flex resistant for very high-end pedals. However, with my Fanatec CSL DD and ClubSport V3 pedals, I didn't notice any flex on the F-GT Elite. Additionally, the F-GT Elite has the advantage of being able to support both formula and GT driving positions easily. So, there's pros and cons either way I guess. 👍
I don't know how you assembled that thing with just the included allen wrench.
Haha, magic hands mate...just kidding-I did use a few extra tools but you probably couldn't tell from the timelapse. 🤙
I put it together with just the included tools, really easy.
I would also like to ask about the ES1 Elite armchair. If I am 180 cm tall and weigh 73 kg, am I slim, will it not be too big or wide for me?
Thanks for your question Rafal. I think the ES1 sim racing seat will fit you well. I'm about 176.5cm tall and around 65kg and I felt very secure in the seat as the sides tuck in more closely around the torso. Hope that helps. 👍
A bit late to the party, but perhaps helpful for others: I have the ES1. I'm 182cm (6 ft) and 80kg (176 lb). It fits me like a glove. VERY comfortable, and totally flex free. FWIW, I have it mounted to it's little brother, the GT Elite (wheelplate edition), which is GT style only, and flex-free.
Hello,
Superb video as usual.
I love your in-depth analyzes of the world of simracing.
I would like to know what is the height of the seat from the ground on this cockpit??
Please give me the measurement from the floor to the cockpit seat.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks for your kind words Casoni-I'm stoked you liked the review. In the lowest position, the seat sits about 20cm from the floor. This extends to 30cm in the highest position. You can also lift the entire cockpit using the included shock-absorbing feet. In this case, the seat will sit about 35cm from the floor. Hope that helps. 👍
I was looking to get this and was wondering if you knew if the Spaco GP seat would be compatible on this rig.
Thanks for your question Cheetah. Looking at the measurments of the Spaco GP, I think it should fit the seat brackets, included with the F-GT Elite, without any problems. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork Thank you
This might actually be the rig I need, how high is the front part before the base holder?
Thanks for your question mate. The pedal deck uprights are 50cm and the wheel mount uprights are 84cm, as measured from the floor. Does that answer your question, or where you looking for the height of a different part?
@@ADAPTNetwork okay thanks for that, also wanted to know what the base length is from the pedal front to the back of the seat in a gt position, so far I can fit it under my desk if I was to purchase it, however I need to be sure it will fit length-wise from front to back.
No worries @@AdzzVR. The base length is 121cm from front to back (4:01). However, you'll probably need to allow for about 150cm, as the pedal deck arms extend forward in a GT position. Hope that helps. 👍
Great review, appreciate the depth you went into. I'm looking into getting this to replace my old rig. Quick question about the shifter mounting - I want to be able to switch my shifter to the left or right side depending on the car that I am driving (RHD vs LHD); how easy is it to switch the shifter to the other side?
It's not difficult, but it is too time consuming to do it on the fly for complete interchangeability.
Planning ahead to ensure you have the slots inserted on both sides would help though.
Thanks for your comment M & C-I'm stoked you liked the review. Like Andrew says, it's not difficult to switch your shifter from side to side, but it is a bit time consuming. I would suggest reaching out to Next Level Racing to purchase an additional shifter arm and shifer plate. You can then install this on the other side of your rig so you would only need to move the actual shifter. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork that's actually a great idea! I mean just having an arm on the opposite side, built up would be great. Switching the plate over with the shifter wouldnt be too much of a hassle.
If you go down the full arm route it (opposed to the direct method) would arguably give the rig more rigidity too - not that it has much flex anyway.
Great review Adapt. Do you know any other seats you'd consider that are compatible?
Thanks Sbin-I'm stoked you liked the review. The seat brackets that come with the F-GT Elite are compatible with most side mounted bucket seats. I previously tested the Sim-Lab SPEED1, which I would recommend ( th-cam.com/video/TtfTOfG8xb0/w-d-xo.html ). Next Level Racing has also just released the ERS1 seat ( th-cam.com/video/9NUVtCPOUvk/w-d-xo.html ). I'll be reviewing this shortly and it could be a good option if you want a reclining seat. Hope that helps. 👍
Have you been able to get your hands on a monkeydriver seat to test?
Thanks for your comment mate. I only recently heard about Monkeydriver, but the rig looks nice and compact. I'll add it to the review list. 👍
Where can I buy that seat you have???
Thanks for your question fondoo-great sim racing setup by the way! You can pick up the ES1 sim racing seat here: amzn.to/3IPRayn
@@ADAPTNetwork thank you sir
Simlab still the best
Thanks for your comment XPO. I'm a big fan of Sim-Lab rigs also (see my GT1 Evo review: th-cam.com/video/TtfTOfG8xb0/w-d-xo.html ).
love my simlab px 1 strong sturdy and cant have it not laying the floor and no flex at all anywhere and better price this cock pit from next level racing has flex on the paddles and where steering wheel is at not much but you can see the flex trried it didnt like for the rest it looks the coolest pretty only con is u can change f1 to gt quick nothing else and how it looks
Thanks for your comment Aruba. I'm a big fan of Sim-Lab rigs also (see my GT1 Evo review: th-cam.com/video/TtfTOfG8xb0/w-d-xo.html ). To clarify though, the F-GT Elite does come with feet (11:30). However, I chose not to install these because the rig slides reasonably well on carpet without them. Additionally, with my Fanatec CSL DD and ClubSport V3 pedals, I didn't notice any flex. Based on profile thickness, however, the P1 X is probably slightly more flex resistant for very high-end pedals. Like you said though, the F-GT Elite has the advantage of being able to support both formula and GT driving positions easily. 👍
Just bought simXlab XT120 for my sc2pro it is the same as P1-x for just 629 eur! Nextlevel is jist crap for thw price you paid! Sorry!
Thanks for your comment @@amigoz3201. The XT120 looks like a very robust cockpit. The F-GT Elite does, however, boast a number of unique features that are worth considering in my opinion. Plus, you have to admit, it's a good-looking rig! 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork it looks ok, but what it has more than xt120? I think nothing… and it even dont has front DD mount for the 1050 eur, come on man, you already understand what i mean ;)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts @@amigoz3201. The F-GT Elite has been designed to switch between formula, GT, and multiple hybrid configurations straight out-of-the-box. Additionally, it's fully compatible with Next Level Racing's motion ecosystem and comes with a number of included extras. It's also worth pointing out that the retail price includes shipping. I agree though, that the XT120 looks very good value for money as an aluminum profile GT rig. 👍
Cuanto es altura maxima permite pedales a partir de perfil de base?
Hi Tornadeitor, thanks for your question. The pedal deck uprights are about 50cm in length, so the pedals can be raised to a maximum height of about 40cm from the base profile. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork gracias. Entonces es 40cm lo maximo que se puede colocar pedales? A contar a partir de la base horizontal? He dejado comentario anterior pero no se que pasa se ha borrado.
Yes, that is correct @@tornadeitor; the pedals can be raised to a maximum height of 40cm from the horizontal base profile.
Gracias amigo. Yo tengo un cockpit aluminio y he comprado 4 perfiles 350mm, ahora he puesto pedales lo mas alto posible pero no se si esta bien posicion f1 o esta un poco bajo. Por favor, te pido, si alguna vez colocas los pedales arriba del todo, y te acuerdas, enviame una foto o algun pequeño video que yo pueda ver hasta donde te llegan los pies respecto a tu cuerpo, gracias
@@tornadeitor Check out the driving positions segment of the video (9:03) to see the F-GT Elite in the formula position with the pedals at the highest position. Hope that helps. 👍
nice voice, broo🙂
Thanks for your kind words Andi-I appreciate it. 👍
Hey adapt nextwork great review mate am currently in the market looking for a new rig too but am in a loft bedroom for mine so space can be quite limited until i change my room around by moving my bed to another room we have and ive measured it out so it comes to Seat height is 100cm width from top view is 50cm bottom is 45cm the length is 130cm and pedal plate is width 36cm by length 30cm thats a playseat evolution rig am currently on but not too keen on it as find it awkward to get in and out of it with the centre column dont like it between my legs and always feel cramped in a hunch position with the wheel deck because theres not much room for manoeuvre currently have same wheel rig as you too but the formula v2 rim red version and csl pedals along with advanced paddle module was looking at this one but the price for it is ridiculous in my eyes then you have to buy seat separately which is incredibly expensive so if you know of any other options that would fit the middle range budget if you like it would be helpful looking at the psr1 rig too by next level anywhere also the trak racer tr80 or gt1 evo as another option
Thanks for your kind words Dan-I'm stoked you liked the review. I think the F-GT Elite will be a bit too big for your current space. The Sim-Lab GT1 Evo could be a good option (here's my review: th-cam.com/video/TtfTOfG8xb0/w-d-xo.html ). It has a base footprint of 135 x 55cm, so you may need to find a little extra space still. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork yeah am leading more towards that mate after watching your review on that too just a question would the playseat its self along with the rails that come with be able to screw on to the base of the evo ? thats what am thinking of doing 🤔And with me being in the uk too like when i got the csl dd from fanatec are there brexit charges still in place if you know ? And one more if i did do that with the seat should i buy any extra parts before i place my order ?
@@DanMufc-jt9le In order to mount the Playseat Evolution seat to the GT1 Evo, I think you would need an additional seat slider ( adaptnet.work/7jG5 ). You would then bend the seat slider to match the width of the seat, bolt it to the base of the seat, and then bolt the seat slider to the seat rails of the cockpit. Does that make sense? It's also worth picking up the shifter & handbrake mount, as this doesn't come with the cockpit as standard ( adaptnet.work/6Muv ).
Digital Motorsports has a blog post regarding post-Brexit import charges (see here: adaptnet.work/3WhT ). My understanding is that products are sold without VAT. The shipping company then charges UK VAT and a small handling. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork right ok mate thats good to know very helpful mate thanks for that would it be worth sticking with the standard wheel base mount you get with the evo to hold the csl dd bare in mind i got the 8nm one or get sim labs upgraded one ? am not an expert on diy myself so just thinking of a list on what to buy Am also thinking i currently play on a lg c1 48 inch tv for xbox/ps5 etc so like the monitor stand you show in the video would that hold the weight you reckon so i could have that as my ultimate gaming rig 😍and can sit back chill out on my playseat and play games when not driving or would that look overkill on it 🤔Am not to bothered about shifter and mount at the moment as i have the paddle advanced module on my wheel base so ill just use them for now And how was the delivery days for you mate how long did it take for them to send it you and if you had any probs ?
@@DanMufc-jt9le I also have the 8Nm boost kit for the CSL DD and I think the standard GT1 Evo wheel deck would be perfectly stable. As I mentioned in the review, the GT1 Evo comes with a pack of M8 washers to ensure a more rigid connection between the wheel deck and frame. However, it's also worth picking up a pack of M6 washers to help with mounting the wheel base to the wheel deck. Additionally, the Sim-Lab side-mount brackets ( adaptnet.work/7jI4 ) are not compatible with the single screen holder I reviewed. That being said, I think the single screen holder would be more than strong enough to support your 48 inch TV. And, if you did want to use the side-mount brackets, you could still mount your TV using the integrated monitor mount ( adaptnet.work/7jI6 ). Regarding shipping, my GT1 Evo arrived before the new Brexit rules came into place. However, subsequent deliveries from Europe have been pretty speedy. Hope that helps. 👍
1k?
Anit no way b'y
Thanks for your comment mate. The F-GT Elite is certainly not the cheapest aluminium profile cockpit. However, it's worth noting that shipping is included at that price. Plus, you get a lot of included extras; parts like the seat sliders, buttkicker mount and cable clips are things that other brands only supply separately.
So not as heavy as the p1 meaning less aluminum and less strength. The $500 plastic set is ridiculous and for the price being more expensive then the p1 is bigggggg nope
Thanks for your comment Aj. I'm a big fan of Sim-Lab rigs also (see my GT1 Evo review: th-cam.com/video/TtfTOfG8xb0/w-d-xo.html ). No doubt the P1-X is a fantastic cockpit and probably more flex resistant for very high-end pedals. However, with my Fanatec CSL DD and ClubSport V3 pedals, I didn't notice any flex on the F-GT Elite. Additionally, the F-GT Elite has the advantage of being able to support both formula and GT driving positions easily. So, there's pros and cons either way I guess. 👍
Thanks for sharing your thoughts @Musicbox Entertainment. Let me know how you find the Alpine TRX once you have it set up. 👍
1000 $???????????
Thanks for your comment El Maha. The F-GT Elite is certainly not the cheapest aluminium profile cockpit. However, it's worth noting that shipping is included at that price. Plus, you get a lot of included extras; parts like the seat sliders, buttkicker mount and cable clips are things that other brands only supply separately.