Those were the venue’s cameras that we were not allowed to use. We weren’t even allowed to have the passcode to the wall panel to pull down the projection screens or adjust audio levels of their mics.
Much thanks, can you link if you already did one, but if not a video on cameras, types pros cons camcorders, those Sony's, BMD studios, pockets comparisons, DSLRs, Cinema models.
Thank you for sharing your video, I love live production. I will recommend you to bring your own speakers for venues like this, a pair of QSC K12’s will save you a lot stress and you have full control on the room.
11 times a year I do a hybrid event in a cinema; big enough we need podium mics and venue has no in room audio except for HDMI; as its a cinema not designed for conferences; am using the atem extreme iso at the moment the room audio delay is too much; and onsite speakers get the echo brain shutdown so to "fix" use a mixer and lug a couple speakers there and do all the audio myself.. but effort to hump in and out adds another 20mins to setup; etc wondering if you ever done a video/had to solve this. Looking to upgrade to a constellation 1/2me but I'm thinking something like going further to have a 60hz output in addition to having an audio embedder closer to their HDMI will reduced the effect/lag and maybe do some positive sound re-enforcement? expecting will get some feedback issues as well as the speaker placement currently avoids it and don't even need to do active suppression/feedback destroyers.
FYI. Typo on your homemade label at 9:06 where "Reciever" should be "Receiver". I before E except after C. Just for next time you make the label... Great video!
for feedback check out the Behringer Shark series; I've had great success with the Behringer FBQ100 especially with single person portable setups with sensitive podium mics and monitor speakers; and bigger setups basically put it on the output of the mixer so can have a physical volume control if digital mixer controller stops; i have two for L+R and just recently got the FBQ1000 but haven't played with it enough to use for a live event yet.
Nice use of the Video Assist to embed the audio 👌 that was slick. I find, Macs can be a little unreliable when it comes to sending out lots of outputs (especially with PowerPoint). I use a Windows laptop with a Startech Dual HDMI adapter, which allows me to send both the Presenter View and main out via the two HDMI's, by setting one of the external HDMI's as the "Main Display" which will default it to the presenter view (accomplishing the same job as your 2 macbooks). For confidence monitors I have seen some people use Guitar or base stands to hold up lighter TV's and for more robust screens, they used a guitar amp stand (which gives the Ideal 45 degree tilt). In terms of recording the output from the PC's I use OBS on each laptop to do a basic window capture and output via OBS (which also lets me do things like overlays and custom stage displays on the fly. This is instead of having the use of a Hyperdeck.
Thanks for the video, very complex audio routing there. I have a question for you, I have seen that you provide a HDMI and Wireless transmitter to the lectern/podium for any laptop use, question is, how do you share that on zoom if the laptop has powerpoint slides and yet zoom down scales the quality if used as a camera input? Is there a way I can share that lectern laptop as a second camera in zoom to have high resolution slides? Thank you
Nice setup. I like the Video Assist Hack...Sweet. I've not seen those Sony Z cameras before. Question: could you not also tap into the built in PTZ they had on the wall or was that not an option? Thanks for sharing your setup.
Thanks for sharing. I’d love to see a schematic of some of these setups. You’ve got some amazing creativity-it’s fun to watch your solution to the challenges you face. What converters are those? I’ve been using the BMD bidirectional converters with my setup. Are they rack mounted or just velcro’d in? Thanks again.
Interesting how they hired the room, yet get no access to all the equipment 🤔 Well done on the work around. Great job as always 😀 Thanks for the thorough walk through.
So I have a question for you. What if a room presenter wants to speak back and forth with an online presenter? The way I am routing audio out of zoom right now is it comes out of my zoom laptop and into my audio mixer and into the room speakers from my audio mixer. I use the auxiliary out potting down the zoom input so that it doesn't feed back. However, when the in-room speaker speaks through the in-room microphone, it goes out to zoom and I presume it would come back in to my zoom laptop because they're having a dialogue back and forth. How do I handle that feedback? Echo
The way you've described it, you shouldn't have an echo feedback loop. The mic channels can have their Aux Send knobs turned up, but keep the Zoom input channel Aux Send knob turned off. The will allow the mics to send audio to both the in-room speakers and to Zoom, and allow the Zoom guest to speak with those people on Zoom AND in the room without the feedback loop. I do this all the time.
I see the same dual PowerPoint laptops in most of your set ups. Is there a special reason you don’t just have one laptop for PowerPoint and output the slideshow screen to an HDMI splitter or hub, then out to all the displays or switcher inputs that need the PowerPoint?
I do this with an ATEM mini Extreme. HDMI output 1 to the venue projector and HDMI output 2 to the multiview monitor. Then I can use the virtual webcam of the ATEM to output to our Teams laptop. This setup also lets me control the outputs for in room projector and and virtual output separately using the HDMI 1 output buttons on the bottom right of the ATEM. Simple.
re using the room audio; how did you find the audio delay for this venue? Personally I've had lots of negative experiences with room delay to the point I hump in some speakers but I mostly done small and cheaper venues where one or two 15inch speakers will cover it.
Hi Brian. Thanks for this. Q: Why do you have 2 laptops with the same slideset instead of just 1 with 2 outputs (presenter view and presentation itself)? I've had the latter work fine (even if setting it up is a bit finicky)
Good question, one is a backup if it’s not being used for presenter view. also for when preparing next speakers slides while current speaker is up for seamless transition, always good to have a machine ready to pull up whatever client needs last minute. Mostly just backup though.
Great question. I was wondering the same thing. We still have a second laptop with all the slides on it but it only makes its way onto the table if laptop A fails for some reason.
Great walkthrough! I'm a little unclear on how the de-embedder solves the loopback issue. Wouldn't you still have the same issue of the audio that you're sending to the room being included in the XLR out you're receiving? Asking because I just ran into the same issue a couple of weeks ago (Crestron systems are the bane of my existence) and 'solved' it by including a separate speaker just for the audio from Zoom.
Yes there is still a little bit of a loop back issue which I got around by just muting the mic icon on zoom itself when a virtual presenter started speaking. Then unmuting when someone in the physical space used a mic to ask a question. Pretty manual work around but it worked well in a pinch.
How’d you get around the potential audio feedback loop with room audio? Thats my biggest issue I’ve been trying to solve, to mix minus who’s on zoom to not send their voice back at them.
Hi, I have realized that Zoom itself does a bit of mix minus-ing in my productions. Have never had any online guests complain of an audio loop, neither have I personally faced any issues of that sort
You'll need an audio mixing board with an "Aux Send" jack, like the Yamaha MG10 or Mackie ProFX10v3, to accomplish this. Lots of videos on TH-cam to show you how to do a mix-minus.
Good tip with the video Assist to not loop audio!! Thats really smart.
great walk through! nice to see how you've worked around the specific limitations of the venue.
Thanks david!
Thanks for another great video.
But you see cameras on the wall. What is the reason you don't use them?
Those were the venue’s cameras that we were not allowed to use. We weren’t even allowed to have the passcode to the wall panel to pull down the projection screens or adjust audio levels of their mics.
Never heard of perfect cue. Interesting. Thanks.
Been out of stock since forever
Nice! Why don't you use the PTZ from the venue? 🙂
Thanks you for your video! There No sound after 8:50
Very professional presentation. Thanks to the author for sharing the video!🧡💋
Great Video - thanks! Which floor stand did you use for the confidence monitor?
Much thanks, can you link if you already did one, but if not a video on cameras, types pros cons camcorders, those Sony's, BMD studios, pockets comparisons, DSLRs, Cinema models.
Thank you for sharing your video, I love live production. I will recommend you to bring your own speakers for venues like this, a pair of QSC K12’s will save you a lot stress and you have full control on the room.
Yes we offer to do sound as well and being our own mics etc but it always seems to come down to budget for the client.
@@A2ZProductions all clients 😂
11 times a year I do a hybrid event in a cinema; big enough we need podium mics and venue has no in room audio except for HDMI; as its a cinema not designed for conferences; am using the atem extreme iso at the moment the room audio delay is too much; and onsite speakers get the echo brain shutdown so to "fix" use a mixer and lug a couple speakers there and do all the audio myself.. but effort to hump in and out adds another 20mins to setup; etc
wondering if you ever done a video/had to solve this. Looking to upgrade to a constellation 1/2me but I'm thinking something like going further to have a 60hz output in addition to having an audio embedder closer to their HDMI will reduced the effect/lag and maybe do some positive sound re-enforcement? expecting will get some feedback issues as well as the speaker placement currently avoids it and don't even need to do active suppression/feedback destroyers.
FYI. Typo on your homemade label at 9:06 where "Reciever" should be "Receiver". I before E except after C. Just for next time you make the label... Great video!
“Pretty simply setup” 😂😂😂
for feedback check out the Behringer Shark series; I've had great success with the Behringer FBQ100 especially with single person portable setups with sensitive podium mics and monitor speakers; and bigger setups basically put it on the output of the mixer so can have a physical volume control if digital mixer controller stops; i have two for L+R and just recently got the FBQ1000 but haven't played with it enough to use for a live event yet.
Nice use of the Video Assist to embed the audio 👌 that was slick.
I find, Macs can be a little unreliable when it comes to sending out lots of outputs (especially with PowerPoint). I use a Windows laptop with a Startech Dual HDMI adapter, which allows me to send both the Presenter View and main out via the two HDMI's, by setting one of the external HDMI's as the "Main Display" which will default it to the presenter view (accomplishing the same job as your 2 macbooks).
For confidence monitors I have seen some people use Guitar or base stands to hold up lighter TV's and for more robust screens, they used a guitar amp stand (which gives the Ideal 45 degree tilt).
In terms of recording the output from the PC's I use OBS on each laptop to do a basic window capture and output via OBS (which also lets me do things like overlays and custom stage displays on the fly. This is instead of having the use of a Hyperdeck.
You need to get some production surround/tech surround. Basically some table cloths to hide all of your cables and gear from the audience.
Yes usually we have table cloths, tech drape or facades but unfortunately on this event we did not. I agree it looks better hidden.
Have you guys tried the Yolobox Pro yet?
I wonder whats the cost of this total set up. from wire right down to containers.
Thanks for the video, very complex audio routing there. I have a question for you, I have seen that you provide a HDMI and Wireless transmitter to the lectern/podium for any laptop use, question is, how do you share that on zoom if the laptop has powerpoint slides and yet zoom down scales the quality if used as a camera input? Is there a way I can share that lectern laptop as a second camera in zoom to have high resolution slides? Thank you
I just wrote identical question and removed it when saw yours. This powerpoint sharing and videofeed quality is something I have been wondering also.
Can you share what controller button can use on madmapper?
Nice setup. I like the Video Assist Hack...Sweet. I've not seen those Sony Z cameras before. Question: could you not also tap into the built in PTZ they had on the wall or was that not an option? Thanks for sharing your setup.
Thanks for sharing. I’d love to see a schematic of some of these setups. You’ve got some amazing creativity-it’s fun to watch your solution to the challenges you face. What converters are those? I’ve been using the BMD bidirectional converters with my setup. Are they rack mounted or just velcro’d in? Thanks again.
The red ones? They're Decimator MD-LXs. They aren't rack mounted (as they don't have rack mount kits).
Thanks!! That's exactly what I was looking for!
Interesting how they hired the room, yet get no access to all the equipment 🤔 Well done on the work around. Great job as always 😀 Thanks for the thorough walk through.
So I have a question for you. What if a room presenter wants to speak back and forth with an online presenter? The way I am routing audio out of zoom right now is it comes out of my zoom laptop and into my audio mixer and into the room speakers from my audio mixer. I use the auxiliary out potting down the zoom input so that it doesn't feed back. However, when the in-room speaker speaks through the in-room microphone, it goes out to zoom and I presume it would come back in to my zoom laptop because they're having a dialogue back and forth. How do I handle that feedback? Echo
The way you've described it, you shouldn't have an echo feedback loop. The mic channels can have their Aux Send knobs turned up, but keep the Zoom input channel Aux Send knob turned off. The will allow the mics to send audio to both the in-room speakers and to Zoom, and allow the Zoom guest to speak with those people on Zoom AND in the room without the feedback loop. I do this all the time.
I see the same dual PowerPoint laptops in most of your set ups. Is there a special reason you don’t just have one laptop for PowerPoint and output the slideshow screen to an HDMI splitter or hub, then out to all the displays or switcher inputs that need the PowerPoint?
I do this with an ATEM mini Extreme. HDMI output 1 to the venue projector and HDMI output 2 to the multiview monitor. Then I can use the virtual webcam of the ATEM to output to our Teams laptop. This setup also lets me control the outputs for in room projector and and virtual output separately using the HDMI 1 output buttons on the bottom right of the ATEM. Simple.
How do you get all your devices connected to wifi?
re using the room audio; how did you find the audio delay for this venue? Personally I've had lots of negative experiences with room delay to the point I hump in some speakers but I mostly done small and cheaper venues where one or two 15inch speakers will cover it.
Hi Brian. Thanks for this. Q: Why do you have 2 laptops with the same slideset instead of just 1 with 2 outputs (presenter view and presentation itself)? I've had the latter work fine (even if setting it up is a bit finicky)
Good question, one is a backup if it’s not being used for presenter view. also for when preparing next speakers slides while current speaker is up for seamless transition, always good to have a machine ready to pull up whatever client needs last minute. Mostly just backup though.
@@A2ZProductions OK - that does make sense. Redundancy is key for anything live. I just don't have the economic muscle as a non-profit enthusiast
Great question. I was wondering the same thing. We still have a second laptop with all the slides on it but it only makes its way onto the table if laptop A fails for some reason.
What tripods are those?
Viltrox VX-18M Heavy-Duty Video Tripod with VT-01 Fluid Head
8m5s - "pretty simple setup" 🤣🤣🤣 Awesome rig!
Great walkthrough! I'm a little unclear on how the de-embedder solves the loopback issue. Wouldn't you still have the same issue of the audio that you're sending to the room being included in the XLR out you're receiving? Asking because I just ran into the same issue a couple of weeks ago (Crestron systems are the bane of my existence) and 'solved' it by including a separate speaker just for the audio from Zoom.
Yes there is still a little bit of a loop back issue which I got around by just muting the mic icon on zoom itself when a virtual presenter started speaking. Then unmuting when someone in the physical space used a mic to ask a question. Pretty manual work around but it worked well in a pinch.
Again I was told that the venue was providing sound, mics and audio board which was not really the case.
can i know that power strip brand or amazon link at 9:14
Belkin Surge Protector w/ Rotating & Standard Outlets + 8ft Sturdy Cord with Flat Pivot Plug for Home, Office, Travel, Desktop & Charging Brick, 4320 Joules a.co/d/3QIYahO
@@A2ZProductions thank you :) you are just awesome!
amaaaazing hack in the audio system
I think you answered this in another video but i cant find it. What brand of wireless video transmitters / receivers are you guys using in this video?
Accsoon CineEye 2S Pro Wireless Video Transmitter & Receiver
How’d you get around the potential audio feedback loop with room audio? Thats my biggest issue I’ve been trying to solve, to mix minus who’s on zoom to not send their voice back at them.
Hi, I have realized that Zoom itself does a bit of mix minus-ing in my productions. Have never had any online guests complain of an audio loop, neither have I personally faced any issues of that sort
You'll need an audio mixing board with an "Aux Send" jack, like the Yamaha MG10 or Mackie ProFX10v3, to accomplish this. Lots of videos on TH-cam to show you how to do a mix-minus.