Is using birth control a sin?
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- "Is using birth control a sin (specifically: condoms, diaphragms, family planning, hormonal implants, IUDs, RU-486, birth control pills, vasectomy, tubal ligation)?"
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As a christian. Preventing pregnancy is not a sin. But terminating it is a sin. The lord said be fruitful and multiply he didn't say be fruitful and multiply mindlessly or stupidly. If a married couple do no have the financial capacity to take care of more than 2 children, the wisest thing is to prevent their conception. Unless you want to tell me that they should stop having sex completely
i agree
Preventing pregnancy is a mortal sin that will send one to hell; just look at the story of Onan.
@@christsavesreadromans1096 Is this true?
@@PatientPerspective It is, look at the catholic teaching on birth control
@@christsavesreadromans1096 In the end he says it's a sin after birth control. He have meant the term medical abortion. I've never heard birth control after. Its purpose is to prevent pregnancy not end it.
Of course children are a gift but not every person is equipped to provide for a child mentally or financially. Many traumatized children learn beliefs that may protect them emotionally and physically as children and continue with distorted beliefs in adulthood. Not everyone should be parents.
In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone and marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again.
I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world.zq11
@@a.39886 not true. Every person is responsible for their own salvation.
@@Christ_Is_Life10-10 can people be born by themselves
Then use self control. They’re reproductive organs not fun let me stick it in something cuz I have no self control organ
@@a.39886 Throughout all of human history the poorer of the society even more children they have. That goes for currently in America and throughout America's past
it's not really our business
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Stop messing with birth control. Start practicing self-control, which is a fruit of the Holy Spirit and is thus pleasing to God.
We don’t need to learn self control if it’s just one condom because we know if is not the time to do it but you know who doesn’t It’s Quagmire
Stop comparing us to quagmire
This assumes all sex is about loss of control in bed. The better way to phrase it is discernment. Sex, like eating, and walking, is action. You can control when and who you have sex with, what you eat, where you walk and wise to do so. A lot of murderers have self control. That doesnt mean their discernment criteria of right and wrong behavior is sound.
@@PatientPerspective I didn’t think about it like that
A small amount is not bad but too much is an addiction
We always hear "children r a gift from God", if it is why we have to prevent it somehow. Imagine that what will happen in this world if there is no any birth controls at all. Maybe God has given humanity to have a wisdom about medical and scince bcz for helping us to live our life better from sins and His curse. We need to specify it good or bad as good is not sin, but bad is sin totally.
Well said
Childbirth goes from $10k-25k depending on the state. I'll leave that
In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone and marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again.
I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world...2.....
Summary: speaker is not totally wrong from a medical standpoint. But definitely does not give an accurate medical portrayal of IUD's and oral contraceptives.
As a current medical student studying the reproductive system, wanted to clear up some of the medical points in this video, so that we can pay attention to what this man has to say about the ethics behind birth control and not get so thrown off about the medical points. After all, he's an ethics professor, not a health care professional like he states.
1. He's making pretty broad claims about oral contraceptives and IUD's. Not totally right. But not totally wrong either. Here's what I mean. He states that IUD's work POST-conception. There's 2 types of IUD's: copper and hormonal. It is true that IUD's can impair implantation of a fertilized egg in the uterus. HOWEVER. The main mechanism of action is actually prior conception. IUD's will lead to sperm toxicity and death (copper) or no ovulation aka no released egg for the sperm to fertilize (hormonal). Meaning the chances of getting a fertilized egg with an IUD already in place is almost impossible in the first place. The only scenario that would make sense is if the egg is fertilized and the mother chooses to get an IUD placed somehow hours/days afterwards. Sure then, an IUD would work post-conception.
2. Oral contraceptives are a similar case. The main type of oral contraceptives is a combination of estrogen/progesterone. Their main mechanism of action is to suppress hormones released from our brain (hypothalamus/pituitary gland) which then means no LH surge or ovulation. Which means no egg is released from the ovary. No egg. No fertilization. Sure there are certain types of oral contraceptives (progestin only) that will create an environment in the endometrium (womb) that less favors implantation. But progestin only oral contraceptives are not prescribed as much anymore. And progestin also works to thicken the cervical mucus, so that less sperm enters the uterus. So technically yes. If a woman is on a progestin-only contraceptive for some reason. And sperm happens to get pass the cervical mucus barrier and etc. It may work post-conception. But this is not the main mechanism and just wanted to highlight that for all you.
Thank you for posting this!
Thank you for taking the time to clarify.
Thanks for clarification, putting any kind of an object into wife's body seems brutal to me. Burden of birthing is already upon her, why not help her with other things and just be careful? Use condoms and just be careful with God given precious wife!! Christians ought to be taught these things, but I see so many Christians get triggered by discussions of birth control which is not helping anyone make right moral choices.
@@Vpy2023 I think it’s not christians but Catholics who are against birth control. Catholics believe that one must not perform sexual intercourse with any means of trying to prevent conception. Meaning each time they have sex, it has to be natural without contraceptives and depending on whether an egg is available, one might or might not get pregnant. I personally feel that God gave us brains to make decisions and we ought to have sex in a responsible way. If we are really not ready for kids, we should not try to have kids. It does not mean that we don’t have sex with our spouse, but maybe use a condom to prevent an unwanted pregnancy so that we can continue to give pleasure to our spouse and enjoy God’s gift of us in our marriage. Because sex is not just for procreation, it is also for us to enjoy with our spouse. Of course if we use condoms and still get pregnant, it just means that it is God’s desire for us to have that child and we should just go on to have that child. Under normal circumstances, we should always enjoy God’s gift of sex in a responsible manner.
1:14 - 1:18 "We should never have complete control over the process of procreation." Why? People are supposed to have children they don't want and / or can't afford? How cruel. Children who are planned on are not the ones who are abused. . . . Genesis 9: "1 Then God blessed Noah and his sons and told them, 'Be fruitful and multiply.' " God was specifically speaking to Noah and his sons, not me, not you, not any religious figureheads.
Sexual relations are for Procreation, not for recreation. That is God's design. If you don't want children, then stay single and don't have sexual relationships.
I'm with you. I'm not sure he has a great theological argument. It's not just Noah though, it's in Gen 1 as well. But I would say that it was for the Jews in general because that was how they would thrive. Conversation becomes easy and faith based I do however disagree with abortion.
@@cynthiax56 My first point would be that it could be about both, fun and procreation. But I think "Becoming one flesh" is what it's for. We're not to withhold and the bible says it's not good for man to be alone.
@@BoringDad88 I'm also against abortion.
Cynthia X But the thing is , when a married couple becomes one , God says not to withhold sex from either partner ,unless they need to pray. And also not to withhold it so the man or woman does not get tempted to sin. God did not just create sex to make babies but also for a husband and wife to pleasure each other.
And if you aren't actually using it for contraception? What then? I use the birth control pill to regulate my periods. It also helps with acne and weight loss.
Do they really help with weight loss? I know some make someone more hungry.
Never use it. Consider the true reason you are using it. Is it simply a vanity. Best way to control weight is to practice self control, what the apostles call "doing violence" to the flesh. Eat less and be more active. Some people are genetically overweight, which can't be prevented. Still, physical activity is good for your body soul and mind. Most all drugs are unnatural and BAD for the body. Also, you don't know how this may affect your future fertility if you are married and DO procreate in the future. They will not admit it, but birth control and lack of physical activity and sunshine is linked to many cancers, especially breast and ovarian, which is why cancer is so prevalent today.
I don't see that you're hurting anything by using it for those purposes. God never said to not use birth control for medicinal purposes.
@@doriswhite1348 The use of birth control is linked to several hormonal disorders which affects a persons sensitivity to all kinds of cancers among other things. Generally, if GOD did not create it, you shouldn't put it in your body.
@@stephanieburton9074 I"m not advocating it; just saying certain things prevent pregnancy. What diseases do IUD's cause? Men's birth control ("rubbers")?
I was put on birth control pill when I was eleven years old, because if I hadn't been big cysts would burst on my ovaries, causing me to have surgery, and I would have a very high risk of ovarian cancer
In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone and marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again.
I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world...2,,
There was no scripture provided. Please make sure the answers are backed by scripture.
1 corithians 6:9-11
@@thewakandanpanda1324 great scripture but how are you attributing this to birth control…? Are you saying birth control leads to sexual immorality?
Actually, he referenced Psalm 127:3 multiple times. “Behold, children are a gift of the Lord, The fruit of the womb is a reward.”
Psalms 127:3
Scripture never says that everything must be backed by scripture. Scripture is not the sole authority and does not claim to be-this is a 505 year old perspective invented by one man. Contraception is a sin. It’s disordered against nature, plays God & violates the natural law. The Fruit of the Reformation is rotten. Christians are to have no part in contraception. NFP only, 97% effective. The Unitive & Procreative are inseparable because God made it that way. Contraception is a by product of Modernism.
@@trevorsrq6179 Yes. Sola scriptura is not biblical.
What about a woman's health?
What about using birth control just to manage life, women are expected to work and be themselves 24/7, what does the bible say about using it to help balance hormones?
The Bible doesn't say anything about this. This is part of the reason why Jesus established the Catholic Church to be able to authoritatively teach on morals throughout the ages. I'd suggest reading Humanae Vitae which explains The Church's stance on contraception! :)
@@peytonsmith8256 Jesus establishes the Catholic Church? Maybe you should watch John MacArthur’s sermon on why Catholicism is not true Christianity
@@radiancemussington9131 Or watch any number of videos that point out that Catholicism is the one true religion. ; )
I'm curious why non-christians come to clearly Christian videos? I don't click atheist videos just to comment, so why do you?
freedom of speech
Freedom to watch what i want and to find out how christians use logic/faith in this issue
Because it's interesting. We live and associate with Christians every day.
Caitlin Goodson I’m a Christian and just because someone is atheist doesn’t mean they don’t deserve to be curious or have an opinion. Love don’t hate.
@@mcwho3 I was raised christian too, because it was the way it was, till I started reading books, some Einstein, Hawking. So I don`t understand why other people don`t read it it makes a lot of sense. When I talked to my mother about the beginning of the Earth my mother sad no. My mother was raised with religion and is still a believer. I think still that when kids go to sunday school they are brainwashed to indoctrinated by some old stories you can not check and people oh well. God created everything even this coronavirus I hate god for that. Jezus the grand grand son of David who set up his friend so he was in the front line and died so he can make love to his wife great . Jericho all people murderded accept I woman sure how fantastic . People want to live forever maybe people have work in heaven and think in that there is no end seeing your favorite bands a google amount . Greetings from Erik born as a protestant who likes history science as much I can understand it.
Abstaining is 100% effective for birth control. It does not allow for any control from God. Is that sin? I think we get too caught up in the act of sex itself and should leave those decisions well in the hands of the couple. It is nobody’s business but theirs.
Mary abstained. God controlled that situation.
@@teejaybee9 Well said.
@@teejaybee9 I love this response
This is a great point
The video is not talking about sex. It is talking about female contraceptives and the Christian faith.
Question: does doctors give how they actually work? How como there is a chance of getting pregnant?
Sex is not just for having a baby it is a gift of God for our own enjoyment in marriage women don t want to be pregnant every year till you go through menopause I'm sick of people thinking it is all up to God to decide how many children you have it has to do with when you get married so if a women gets married when she's 18 she has to more children than a women who gets married in her 30s we can't afford to have a lot of children in this day and age how stupid can people be
@GR8 FINDS I agree. I am 54 and my husband is 65. We stopped having sex a few years ago because I am still fertile and haven't begun the change. Condoms don't agree with me and my periods are too irregular to practice natural methods. So we just decided that touching and petting will have to do.
We don’t have to make women keep having babies just because their body is made for it. As a man, I find it very sick to make my wife go through so many pregnancies. For me, having 2-3 is enough. It’s not about how her body looks after having children because it is a matter of fact that a woman’s body will change. She may have stretch marks all over her tummy, have broader hips or breasts that are huge because of the milk inside and become saggy after breastfeeding. But those are just normal reminders that a woman has done the most beautiful job of creating a child with her body. And having so many children means one will be deprived of sexual enjoyment with their spouse because with children comes great responsibilities and they might also be the ones interfering with your sexual life in their younger days.
This is actually answered straight from scripture. Read 1 Corinthians 7:1-40. Sex is not for only having children. God understands we have desires so that's why having sex only in a marriage is not sinful at all no matter the purpose. you are definitely miss understanding. There is freedom in God under His word. Sexual pleasure is not sinful between wife and hatband. God never says we NEED children. Just like he says we don't NEED a wife or husband. He gives us that to actually avoid our sinful ways. He gives us a way to have sex and honor Him at the same time. That's what marriage is.
Through the guidance of the Holy Spirit within you, you will discern what is right and wrong. While the scriptures do not explicitly state whether sexual intimacy outside of procreation is good or bad, they emphasize the importance of self-control. If we struggle with self-control, it is better to be married to one partner and to express our love for them through the act of sex (only for procreation) while supporting each other in our journey towards the Lord God.
Bible also says you can own and beat slaves so long as they don’t die within a few days.
Exodus 21:20
It's actually less complicated than you think
When we anachronistically read early American chattel slavery into the Bible we are doing violence to the Text
The writers of the Torah, along with the NT authors, would NOT have understand the word slave (doulos) as referring to a kidnapped person performing forced labor. This is because the punishment for "man stealing" was death. By biblical standards, the slavers in the south who owned Africans that had been kidnapped would have been sentenced to capital punishment.
There are only three circumstances in which slavery was lawfully performed:
1.) Wsomeone could not pay a debt they had incurred and needed to pay it back
2.) When someone could not provide for themself and subjected themself to slave labor as a means of employment
3.) When prisoners of war from opposing armies were captured.
@@jacobschiestel4746 Thanks for backing Slavery up, your about as scummy as the evil Bible is. Guess your also cool with stoning unruly kids to death too (Deuteronomy 21-18-21).
So again, actually buy biblical standard anybody who owned a slave in America should have been sentenced to death. Concluding that the Bible did not condone slavery as we know it today.
That does not mean that the Bible was not Weaponized so colonizers could justify their actions, but you cannot say the Bible supported that. That was man going outside biblical context doing their own thing.
Booo false dichotomy.
Control of your reproduction and the idea that children are valuable are not opposed ideas.
That is insane.
That's like saying having friends is good so you can never put locks on your door.
Friends are some of the most important things in life, but that doesn't remotely mean that you shouldn't get to decide when and how a friend gets access to you or your home.
Exactly, today our zoology ma'am was taking sexual reproduction and we discussed several issues like population explosion and so on
totally agree with you on the mentality of our culture being anti life, but there is no difference between artificial contraception that is barrier or hormonal - both prevent the married couple from becoming a total gift to one another which is the covenantal sign of marriage - become one flesh - be fruitful and multiply. Sex is always about the possibility of life b/c that what love brings forth. NFP is not contraception - it is always open to the possibility of life!
His conception of hormonal birth control is inaccurate.
Most hormonal birth control does not allow for fertilization in the first place because it prevents the release of an egg.
Thank you!!! Who needs science when I can just make stuff up off the top of my head.
What about people who take birth control to treat medical issues such as cramps and mood swings?
You mean natural happenings in a woman's cycle?
@@Friggsdottir I have had an injury that involved getting my skin ripped open deeply an inch and a half or 2 inches wide. It very close if not to the bone. I couldn't see the tissue that well due to the blood but I figured it could not be that bad cause period cramps hurt worse. I got 10 stiches the next day when I realized I could see things I was not supposed to be able to see. I am on the pill and am almost fully functional during my period now. So when you are laying there praying to God for mercy from the pain in your stomach, then you can voice your opinions on birth control.
There’s women who have ignored appendicitis to the point of it being life-threatening, because it hurt LESS than their period does every month…
Simple question. Lots of tap dancing. No answer.
That is because old books of myths and legends have no real answers for today's questions...
It's a very complicated question with many different angles and it's not easy to answer in a short time, but he did a great job answering many questions that I had, but not all of them.
Is it really a simple question, or is it a question we are _pretending_ is simple?
If you follow the evidence instead of leading the evidence. Its not even a question because you have to presuppose sin is something real. If murder is a sin then we dont even need a judicial system because it will all wash out after a person or pre-fetus is dead. But hey, as long as someone accepts god into their heart you can do anything and get past Peter guarding the gate. Dahmer dancing in heaven. It's not wise to subscribe to that belief if anyone cares about truth. And hey, if your kid dies of cancer, it was all part of God's plan too.
@@hotice8885 nah. It's simple if you don't have presuppositions.
NATURAL FAMILY PLANNING IS the most safe and conscience method. If God gave us these cycles, we CAN have control without harmful drugs/devices. So glad he mentioned it!!
Correct,...ll agree
Condoms are not harmful, and a woman needs to be examined and screened on what birth control is recommended. There is the spounge, the diaphram, IUD and other forms of birth control available, not just the pill.
Pat Saxon those all have unnecessary and sometimes horrible side effects the conscience method of timing your cycle when done properly is very effective
@@tututhebudgie2154 Condoms, diaphrams, and the spong are perfectly safe with no negative side effects. When it comes to medical birth control, like the pill and IUD as long as FDA approved, a doctor examins the woman and screen on what types of birth control is recommended. Birth control works and perfectly safe, even non-medical birth control is an alternative like the spong, diaphram and even the condom.
Nope, not 100% effective and hard to follow calender. It is very risky using the NFP, besides ProLife even thinks that the NFP is also sinful.
Dude u didn’t even answer the question at all !
Every other video by u guys is great
But u beat around the bush horribly
No mention of natural law or the history of christian churches' stance on artificial contraception and why they took that stance. Confused thinking on display here.
Sir, you have many medical points incorrect in your video. IUDs actually prevent ovulation, meaning that they are pre-fertilization. Please make sure your content is medically accurate in the future.
Amen!
IUD’s work by causing irritation in the uterus and thickening the secretions to aid in keeping the sperm and ovum separate....however, if this doesn’t happen and conception occurs, the IUD prevents implantation and also increases the risk of an ectopic pregnancy. The main mode of action of IUD’s is not to prevent ovulation although some do have a mild hormones that may suppress ovulation. Again, that is not their primary mode of action.
His entire worldview is based on stories mythical stories beginning with magic fruit trees and talking snakes. Do you really expect correct scientific information here?
@@nicholasflamel1134 we’ll see one day if the stories are real or not you better hope your right
@@nicholasflamel1134 and what is your morality based on? Are you a slave to cultural norms, or do you truly believe that morality is just a man made construct?
Not only is birth control not a sin but people need to use birth control tio prevent the spread of diseases like AIDS and for the population control.
Omg thats true
One of the sanest comments I've seen in here.
Birth control is not a sin, if used between married couples only.
Is it a sin not to trust God?
There was a time in church history when believing husbands and wives did not have the option of modern birth control methods , and they either obstained or simply trusted God with the outcome; or they knew something of the ovulation cycle and when pregnancy might or might not occur.
"But now we have 'modern' methods of determining the outcome, who nees to trust God implicity as a child in this matter. We have the answer now and so we will determine our own future."
The Bible is plain: It is God who gives the increase; it is God who said multiply and fill the earth; it is God who opens the womb and closes the womb.
The Scripture says to cast our cares upon the Lord; to cast our own souls upon the Lord. The Scripture says that the body (whether man or woman) is for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. We are told as believers to trust in the Lord with ALL your heart and lean not to your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him adn he will direct your paths - Prov 3;5, 6
Why is that now - apparently, too hard to do with respect to having or not having children?
In whom or what do we really trust with our bodies?
Ian McDonald He works thru means; birth control is one of those means. And unlike abortion, it's not murder
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the Bible doesn't speak about 'birth control' as we are accustomed to today. I understand your words. All I am saying is that God wants us to trust Him with everything, and that includes our bodies, and that blessedness of marriage and procreation. There is a much greater joy in trusting God even in marriage and leaving to Him an outcome. He can open a womb and He can close a womb. It is God who gives the increase.
If husbands and wives want to use the devices of men, that is their business. There is a perfectly natural way for birth control, two actually , one is abstinence - but that is not a good idea for a prolonged time.
The other way is what was called the Rythm method based on the ovulation cycle. This way neither the husband or his wife is being subjected to 'mechanical devices or unnatural pharmaceutical concotions which are foreign to the body and can change the wifes body over time.
People are free to choose to do or not to do what they want.
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you will not always have that opinion friend :) :)
One day God will opne your eyes - yes, the one you deny.
You are right about the "Catholic" church - it IS all about money and poitical power. It is a religious system, but not one that is truly centered on Jesus Christ - except in name only.
And tragically many protestant denominations across the board are also about money and political power; and what is more, many protestant - Christian denominations are being seduced to return to the Ruthless arms of the Roman Catholic system. Rome calls it Ecumenism.
I would only urge you to simply call upon the name of Jesus Christ.
He was not a money hungry, political entrepeneur. He truly does care about your person - spirit, soul and body.
Yes, 16 years lost. But Jesus can redeem those years for you if your will trust Him with all your heart.
Jesus can turn wasted years into a fruitful life, one in which we can be at rest in our souls - and be satsified with Him, and one in which He can help us to truly help others in His name.
I will pray for you.
You may have wasted 16 years in the 'catholic' faith; I wasted 53 years of TV watching. But God has been merciful to me and very patient, and has given me a clean conscience before Him. I love Him who gave Himself for me.
Acts 2:38
In Genesis 9 where God says to, ". . . multiply and fill the earth.," he was speaking specifically to Noah and his sons, not all of us.
The best contraception that prevents a possible fertilized egg from being destroyed are condoms and spermicide. Sterilization is also good if you are too old or have had enough children.
An egg is "destroyed" by the female's body every month unless a woman becomes pregnant. Egg and sperm are basically the same thing, although the egg has some other cellular contributions. You seem to be fine with throwing away an entire condom full of millions of sperm cells but overly concerned with one egg. It makes no sense.
@@nicholasflamel1134 "fertilized egg" is the key. She didn't say an egg, she said a possibly fertilized egg. How about properly reading a comment before giving someone an attitude.
Sex is one desire. Wanting offspring is another, completely different desire.
To fulfill one of these desires without having the other desire is NOT a sin.
To create offspring without the desire to create offspring is the real sin!
This person is NOT a medic.
Well what were you expecting? His a Christian smf
Is there ANY UNsinful way to actually have healthy sex with your married partner without having kids? Or is Sex only for recreating? And should be done according to how many kids you plan on having? So if you plan on having 2 kids that means you can only have sex 2 times in your married lifetime?! Then become abstinence?? I'm so confused.
Madam. Adams look up NFP. It’s 99% effective if practiced correctly. It works naturally how God created women’s bodies.
There do exist people in the world, my parents, for example, who never use birth control, yet dont all have 40+ kids. My parents have been married over 40 years now and they only produced 5 children. At 45, my mom started menopause. GOD chooses how much you can bare and wont give you more than that. My gramma, my mothers mother, she birthed 9 children and her mom...19! Trust God. He knows.
Well the thing is , God created us to be fruitful and multiply yes , but he also created us to satisfy our partner. Read 1 Corinthians verses 3-5. God is not a mean God , why else did he create us to have a sex drive? If I yearned to satisfy my husband sexually yet I could not afford a kid would I obstain? Or would I have like 58 kids because of how many times I was turned on ? You see , it all depends on your intentions as to why you are preventing the kid. I truly believe it all depends on you are your husbands circumstances.
@Swovon keeping your legs closed and your reproductive organs to yourself until marriage is the most effective form of birth control and you will never get stds. Duh
@Bruh Commenter If they choose to honor the flesh rather than God, then of course they can if they want to. We all have free will. It is still sin.
I appreciate that you at least distinguish different types of birth control and reasons for it. I'm a single, celibate young woman taking an oral pill that prevents ovulation solely to prevent ovarian cysts. After having surgery to remove an extremely large (over 12cm) cyst (performed by an oncologist due to concerns on the ultrasound). The oncologist then checked me again a few months later to see if I was developing more cysts (which I was, despite remaining on the pill). The dr told me that each time I have a cyst rupture it forms more scar tissue on the ovaries, which impairs fertility. So along with not wanting more extremely painful ruptured cysts, and the possibility of needing more surgical removals, if I ever want to have children once I marry, I need to stay on the birth control until I'm ready to try for children. I'd happily castrate (without anesthesia) any man who tells me my birth control is a) not medically necessary (oncologist told me "if the cyst ruptures before I can surgically remove it the infection will kill you in about a week. But don't worry about the pain. You'd be unconscious from the pain within minutes and we'd just keep you comatose afterwards. It's really the only way to control that much pain." or b) a sin. My birth control is the only thing preserving my fertility.
Then there's my mother who required a hysterectomy in her 30's. After me (baby #4) she had a few very bloody miscarriages (admitted to the hospital after each one. 6 years after me, she was finaly able to conceive #5 that lived, but had complications (affecting only her, not the baby) the drs wanted to do a hysterectomy immediately after the birth even though lil sis slid out without even a proper push and was caught midair because they weren't quite ready. My mom objected to the hysterectomy saying she wanted at least one more, so they told her she better get busy as soon as she was healed, and 2 years later #6 was born (almost 11 lbs. with half a push) then they wanted her to heal before the hysterectomy, plus she didn't want to jeopardize nursing. But by then she was extremely anemic. Even with birth control (not nearly as good as some kinds now) she'd bleed for 3 weeks and be lucky to get a week off (while nursing and on strong oral pills). Four months after baby sis was born they decided to operate (left her ovaries tho) and took her months to recover because she was so anemic but also low on blood from the past 3 years (including 2 very hard pregnancies). What pisses me off to this day were that many of the "good Christian" women from church refused to help with her 5 children (thankfully the older kids could help lots), housework, caring for an infant and toddler while we were at school, and her recovery from surgery because it was a "sin". Eventually my 2 grandmothers each spent 2 months living with us to help with everything. So much for the "church family" helping.
It is judgemental "Christians" like this who give true Christans a bad name and drive others away from Christ. Frankly, it's really just none of your business to judge if someone is worthy of assistance, and you need to just help those who need it if you are able to do so. Mind your own business, err on the side of helping, and let God sort out the rest. God won't punish someone who helps where it might not actually be needed, but you will be judged for refusing to help those who you could and should have helped.
As a guy I totally agree with your stand ✂️so as to protect your own life. After what my mother went through I took “measures” trying to protect my wife’s life after the birth of our son and her not recovering even after a year, it wasn’t until afterwards we found out we were dealing with her narcissistic family bent on our destruction. To this day I’ve never regretted my decision to stop at one child only that we couldn’t reverse the damage from her parents doing sexual trauma to her while growing up and then regain her health back.
God gave us legs but we drive cars. Ultimately I see nothing wrong with birth control and it is a necessity. To everyone who’s against birth control, do you have 5+ kids and do you know what it’s like to raise that many kids? Would you like the right to have the number of kids you’d like stripped away from you and your spouse? It’s really something to think about. No one should decide for someone else. I take what these religious leaders say with a grain of salt but it’s interesting hearing different opinions on things.
I think that legs and car analogy is not a very good one when describing this topic.
@Rogelio Caballero wrong. In nature many animals have sex for pleasure not just reproduction you door knob. So the analogy stands. Using your words, birth control enhances the act of sex by letting you not have to worry about an accidental pregnancy
"God gave us legs but we drive cars" is a faulty comparison. The natural end of legs is to take us from place to place and cars help us achieve that end. A relevant comparison would be that God gave us legs but we can chop off our legs, though that would be violence against yourself and therefore a sin.
@@Polumetis I understand your viewpoint though I disagree. Cutting off your legs would directly harm you and make you unable to walk which would greatly prevent you from living a life able to do many things like care of yourself and others and to do that intentionally is severe self harm. Pregnancy comes with many health risks so birth control can reduce severe maternal health risks and deaths which is one of many reasons I’m grateful for contraception. If I and many more mothers had more support, they and I maybe would not have a need to use birth control but that’s not realistic for many families. As a mom, I like the fact that my spouse and I will be able to plan and discuss having children when we’re ready. My pregnancy was
unplanned, I don’t agree with abortion and knew I wanted to be a mom. We love our baby boy and I’m blessed by God to be able to care of him. Because I have one child, I already know many wouldn’t be able to raise a child even if they are physically able to produce one. I respect an individual’s use or lack of contraception use for this reason. I respect others views and I’m thankful I have the freedom to make these decisions for myself and same for others and their decisions. Thanks for being respectful though we may not agree on the issue.
@@DelaneyB.444 I think they are comparable. The only difference is that contraceptives such as condoms don't cause pain. But they both harm, that is to say impair, you.
Congratulations on your son! I watched a few shorts you made with him and he's a sweetheart. God bless!
Psalm 127
Deciding not to have sex is not a sin and is a form of birth control
Interesting that so few people choose that one.
¿Why? @@hotice8885.
Our physical beings are created with a desire for sex.
This is a completely unrelated desire to the desire for offspring.
Hence, people can desire sex without desiring offspring.
For that matter, it's possible to desire offspring without desiring sex.
¿Is that such a complex idea that you can't comprehend it?
@@peterblock6964 --As I look at this original post, and as I look at your comment (question to me), it doesn't seem like my understanding is the one that is off track, here.
@@hotice8885 It should be obvious why so few people choose the option of not having sex.
I am 54 and my husband is 65. I got pregnant 2 years ago but miscarried ( we were relieved). After, we both decided that while I am still fertile, we wouldn't have sex since we are too old for more children. We are quite happy with each other even without it.
Birth control is not a sin! My husband and I are in control of when and if we want children.
We've been married for 6 months and for it's a no!
Age gap Love Jesus was also referring to folks like you, “Father forgive them, they know not what they do.” Just meditate on that and realize that is a sin.
You just put up some red flags. You guys are in control? So you guys are greater than God? Just realize that God can do whatever he wants. He made it possible for Mary to give birth to a son while being a VIRGIN. I don’t know the answer myself but I am not going to risk doing something that is not Gods will for my life.
Noah David Yeah, really what people need to meditate upon is this. It’s either you wanna lose your soul forever or give your body for adoration in a sinful way for a limited time. You pick! Needless to say, the former is not God’s will. It’s your own! In marriage, you are called for pro-creation and unity. Doing that is not a way and is unacceptable. I feel terrible for the people that have to answer to God, later on.
Why would what do you say or recommend that something is not a son when you are not God?..🤔🤦♀️
@@NervousDisordo
¿So you think we're all farm animals that are being raised for slaughter or slavery or …?
I realize that religious imagery frequently uses farm animal metaphors for humans.
¿But really?
Don't take this literally.
We're not farm animals for some 'god' in the sky.
We can be married and abstain from sex to not have any more children no need for birth control.
seems like a miserable marriage
Good luck with that!
Why?
We can also go to the amusement park and not ride the rides so that we won't need seatbelts.
Take a look at the amount of orphaned children that came from unplanned pregnancies. Then look at the amount of children who are neglected and abused by their parents because the child wasn't planned or wanted. Think about the babies that are killed after they are born. Many of these types of atrocities could be prevented by a contraceptive. But let's opt to dehumanize the use of contraceptives. There definitely isn't human trafficking, child marriage, or rape to worry about.
@@Jannahinshallah87 Not everyone is religious. There are over 4,000 religions that exist, 12 being major religions of the world. Each having their own different interpretation of the bible. Whose to say that YOUR religion's interpretation is the correct one? Only because you BELIEVE it to be so. YOU BELIEVE that God wants sex for procreation and for us to spread our seed. However, what about the other interpretations of his word? What about those who are not religious? Far too many people have sex recreationally and turn to birth control as a way to prevent pregnancy. Married couples in monogamous relationships turn to birth control to prevent pregnancy. God's will is only an interpretation of what you believe his will is. Sweet Tooth was only pointing out that without contraceptives, EVERYONE is forced to procreation and there are many people who should not procreate because they may be mentally ill and sometimes child birth causes mental illness. Far too many children are in foster care, abused, neglected, and yes murdered..unwanted pregnancies raise these numbers.
No Sweet Tooth, many of these atrocities can be prevented by the practice of right living which involves the use of the mind- the intellect to control the lower faculties- the passions. Making right decisions using your brain instead of your fleeting emotions promotes good and Godly living.
K J Yes but look at in this way...there’s are millions of teens/adults having sex. Every day. We can tell each of them to have self control but would they all listen ? No. Birth control has helped many people. There’s is so many orphan children its so sad to see...Not everyone has common sense or self control , people make mistakes and sometimes don’t even value that child or simply cannot afford to care for it. I am against abortion but each person is going to do what they need or want to do. Then it comes back to us and our walk with God
Imagine your poor wife gettin g pregnant so soon after having such tough time with her previous pregnancy. Rather inconsiderate or is it just plain ignorance.
She can abstain as well poor wife, that's an option. Things have consequences even for women
why have sex so soon then? that makes no sense nor did what you said at the very end make anny sence when you think about it
just go ahead and use birth control who cares you have a choice
You can always tell if someone gets a paycheck in their organization or not by how timid they are to give a direct answer.
Birth control IS a sin. It is directly in conflict with God’s plan.
So women who have ovarian cysts (which are extremely painful) that can only get rid of them through birth control are evil sinners? People who just want to make love with their spouse without worrying about a child when they aren’t ready is bad? Isn’t that better then not taking birth control and getting pregnant and having an abortion?? And what about people who just don’t want a child?
@@kayleemarie1901 it's called natural selection. Deal with it.
@@kayleemarie1901 you picked the wrong side to have a rational argument with. A lot of them are yet to pull their heads out of their legalistic asses
@@Vadim_Slastihin no you can deal with that fact that you are a disgusting human being with zero empathy or logic.
i’m on birth control i hope that makes you mad
So if birth control is a sin, then what about the infertile couples who will never conceive a child, through medical means or any other way.
What about the people who never marry and therefore never bear children? Will they all be doomed to hell simply because they never had kids? What about the children who sadly passed away before they ever got to grow up and have children of their own?
I'm so tired of the debate of, "is it a sin, is it not a sin?" The short answer is no. It isn't wrong for a Christian husband and wife to choose to not have children.
I don't want children myself. Yes, I want to get married and be a wife someday, but children will never be a part of the picture. That is unless I continue to help care for my nieces and nephews, or if I someday go on missions trips to show love to children here in America or in other countries.
I just don't desire to have children of my own. I never have, actually. I've spoken to God on this topic more times than I could ever remember. One time that really sticks in my mind though was one day when I was cleaning in the kitchen. My mind strayed as I worked and I got to thinking about having and not having children.
"God," I asked, "why am I this way? If I'm not meant to have children, why didn't you just make me infertile to begin with?"
Then there spoke a voice so warm and gentle in the depth of my soul. "Because I gave you that choice."
I fell to my knees right there in the kitchen and cried, thanking God for His loving grace, and I thank Him for it still.
Isn't it a wonderful thing? Being given the gift of choice? We as humans have been granted that gift by God himself. How we use that gift has been left up to us.
Some women might feel birth control is immoral. Others may believe it's perfectly okay, as long as it's only preventing pregnancy and not killing it.
It all just depends on the woman. And do you notice that the majority of women who believe birth control is immoral actually WANT children themselves? So they judge and put pressure on those of us who have chosen not to procreate. I'm so done with being looked down upon by women who have or want children simply because I desire not to.
Yes, children are a beautiful gift from heaven, but they're a gift not all people are meant to have.
Katie Drake God says be fruitful and multiply which goes to the marriages not to the people who are single therefore God doesn’t see single people as bad people if they follow his word and don’t have sex out of marriage, but God made a man “fruitful “ which means gave him the ability to make life and which means a married couple should multiply (have kids) birth is sinful because God made marriages to bring life to the world. And children are a blessing from the lord
Katie Drake honestly, I’m not Christian but I think it’s absurd to think you HAVE to have children. then overpopulation would be much worse! do whatever feels right to you and let the other Christians be judge mental, as long as you’re happy with you choice.
Katie Drake I agree with you , and yes it is a wonderful blessing. What is making me curious is why are many people bringing up scripture and saying God says to be fruitful and multiply yet they are not bringing up what this verse in 1 corinthians: 3-5 God clearly says to not withhold sex unless each partner agrees on it and also unless they need to pray.
Yes, all child-free couples will be condemn and go to hell. Because they defy the purose of sex, strictly for procreation, not for enjoyment.
Pat Saxon
Wow your beliefs are so backwards.🙄
No one should be obliged to accept a “gift” they don’t want.
Nice brain, is it functioning well ?
If you dont want a baby, keep your legs closed. GOD said that.
Stephanie Scroggin So you expect married couples who don’t want to be parents to have celibate marriages?
If a couple is married, they can choose to abstain from the act of procreation, and fully consecrate their bodies to God as a team. As long as they do not engage in the act of procreation, they are helping each others souls get to Heaven. This is biblical. If a couple wishes to marry, they must either agree to the above or be open to children each time they engage in the marital act. A couple who marries but plans not to have children is not married in the eyes of God, but commits fornication. This is not a human opinion, but Gods law.
Stephanie Scroggin You really should give the 21st century a try.
Not every married couple wants kids. That doesn’t mean that they don’t wish to express their love for each other by knocking boots.
I'm glad a Protestant discusses the issue of birth control. But, interestingly, he did not answer the question, "is it a sin?". This is a prime example of why Protestants don't have any teaching. They cannot teach. They don't have the authoriry to teach. He admits that birth control is not good because of the word control itself. Then he goes on to justify that it is not really bad, not a sin if, A big IF, it only prevents conception or if it does not cause abortion. Thanks to the Catholic Church, she teaches. She teaches that contraception is wrong.
Domingo Melchor The Catholic Church teaches many things that are not supported by the Bible whatsoever. So what exactly is your point?
And Protestants don’t have any teachings?! Protestant Christians teach the BIBLE which is the Word of God, not what a mere mortal, wearing fancy robes and living in an extravagant palace in Italy says.
However, if you were actually listening to the video you would’ve gathered that it is not a simple yes or no answer to the topic at hand. Out of the two forms of birth control, the one that aborts a pregnancy is wrong because it is ending a life already begun. So that would be considered a sin but not necessarily the other forms of birth control. Also, the presenter was speaking to the motive of the couples wanting to use contraception as well. Are there health reasons involved, is the couple needing time in between children, etc.
Not everything in the Bible is as cut and dry as the 10 commandments (the 4th of which you as a Catholic don’t actually observe, which is a sin). Other topics are based on principals, like modesty, worship music, etc. Principals give guidelines which leave room for different perspectives within said guidelines. Thus you’ll have different interpretations of these principals. Like modesty for instance: Some women believe that modesty means wearing dresses down to the ankle while other ladies will wear dresses to the knee. Neither are bad or contradictory to scripture. Just different. I believe the same goes for contraception (accept in the case of abortion, which is murder).
There are many things the catholic church teach that contradict the Bible, would you like me to give an example?
I didn't see birth contrôle in the commandement...
Doesn’t have to be. Read the rest of the Bible
@@MangoLemonaideFresh Yes it does, the Bible don’t say shit about abortion. But it does say you can own and beat slaves so long as they don’t die within a few days (Exodus 21:20). Stone kids to death (Deuteronomy 21:18:21). Also women are not permitted to teach or assuming authority over a man and must be submissive (1 Timothy 2:12). Pretty immoral God.
You’re ignorant on how iuds and implants work. Do research beforehand.
Some women need hormonal birth control to manage medical conditions such as endometriosis and PCOS. There is nothing wrong with that. Men have no idea what women go through. Children ARE a blessing, but scar tissue, heavy bleeding and debilitating cramps are not.
Maybe if actual funding and research were alotted to Endo and PCOS, things would be different. Barely a penny compared to the multibillion dollar Birth Control industrial complex…And if women spent less time and money on cosmetics and selfies, and actually advocated for ourselves and each other…Satan hates the womb. It was through the womb God entered the world as a human being to redeem the human race.
How many women with this problem uses these methods and how many without even having the chance of having these problems are using them contraceptive methods?
@@EphesianRose Also literal Billons an Billons an Billions are given to the abortion industry. If we used that money for other stuff this world could be a better place. Find healthy cures for reproductive/hormonal problems. Fix the foster care system an adoption more easy.
This didn’t answer anything really. I don’t think the Catholic Church differentiates between the method of contraception. It’s all a mortal sin, and if you die in a state of mortal sin, you go to hell. Right? So what do I do? Tell my husband we are never having sex again until I’m passed menopause? Because I can’t mentally or physically or financially have any more kids.
Asking the real questiong
@H0ll0ws.0f.The.V0id
Can you biblically justify the idea of contraception distinctions
He said the answer at the tail end. Birth control is a sin after conception not before.
@_jillkay I would encourage you to look into Christopher West and The Theology of the Body. It has helped answer many of my questions.
NFP is acceptable to the church.
I came for comment wars! :D🍿
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@@melmoore9033 Then both of you came to the right place. :), :), :)
i feel this is actually true, it becomes a tradition in the world. Children is a blessing even in the animal world. its our normal nature. some people want to have childrens but they cannot. think about it guys.
the world already has too many children who are dying and cant even have food. How about promoting adoption. It will also save the environment from global warming
Tom Rodriguez, so what does Luke 23:29 means to you?
Sometimes animals eat their young, are you really using animals an an example here??
@@aslater5 Animals who eat their kids are just having a mental moment, you should not consider their actions as the norm.
@@دليلالعبدفيكشفالهبدok then you could say that animals that have offspring are just having a mental moment and maybe don’t want to have kids
I see no practical difference between birth control and "natural family planning" or abstinence. If you are trying to avoid having 17 children, then you're applying birth control in one way or another.
The difference is that hormonal birth controls are abortifacient--they terminate pregnancy in its very early stages after the egg is already fertilized, which is the point when life starts. Such birth control methods include the morning after pill (plan B), IUDs, daily birth control pills, etc. (although the last 2 aim to prevent ovulation, ovulation can still occur and if an egg is fertilized, it will not implant into the uterine lining but will miscarry as a direct result of the womans choice to take this medication, i.e. an abortion). These birth control methods are sinful because they involve killing a human child after conception. Non-hormonal birth control methods, such as condoms, pulling out, vasectomy, etc., are not inherently sinful because they prevent the conception from ever taking place, and thus they shed no blood. These methods can be acceptable for Christian couples who want to pace the birth of their children, or feel that they are done having children.
No natural family planning is different because with natural family planning a woman observes her cycle and chooses to abstain from having sex during her fertile days. A woman can only get pregnant a couple of days during the month. So if she is not able to accept the responsibility that comes with having sex (with good reason and not just for selfish purposes) she chooses not to engage in it. It's the responsible thing to do. Abstinence is not wrong that would be the same as saying priests and nuns are sinning and preventing pregnancies from taking place by not having sex. With artificial birth control a woman also can not or does not want the responsibility which comes with having sex but she wants to continue having sex during her fertile period because she still wants the pleasure of sex without any sacrifice or responsibility that comes with it. It's the irresponsible thing to do. Think of it in this way if you want good grades you can either put in the hard work, practice self discipline and study or you can cheat. Both produce the same results but the methods used are different, the one being moral and the other immoral.
@@ninjakn3628 God is also not pleased with condoms and pulling out because of how it spills and wastes seed (Genesis 38:9-10) Seed is sacred. Sperm was not meant to go into a condom, napkin, hand, swallowed, spilled onto the floor or wasted but into the vagina so it can bear fruit and bring forth the next generation. Vasectomy could be acceptable given the circumstance for example if it's done to stop cancer from spreading but if it's just done because you don't want anymore children it's also not right. The only acceptable form of birth control is natural family planning where a woman observes her cycle and abstains from having sex on her fertile days. There are only a couple of days a month during which a woman can get pregnant. So she can still have sex on her infertile days but you should not be engaging in sex, during fertile days, if you are not able to accept the responsibility that comes with having it- Also should add that natural family planning should be used prayerfully and with reason and not for selfish purposes.
@@robinj4184 Some cycles are irregular, some are too short that even having sex during a period can lead to pregnancy. Thus "natural birth control method" is just a myth.
@@دليلالعبدفيكشفالهبدFor many the l natural method work for others it don’t it depends
the legalistic in this comments section is mindblowing
Would he get to the point.
yes. but there are many sins which we tolerate in the church
Yes, and it's shameful.
So what this is a terrible point.
Those sins should not be tolerated also.
There are reasons for family planning?", "Can I afford to have children?", "Is it something I want?" "Is it the right time?" "How many can I afford?" and these are logical questions that couples should asked them selves and you really do not have to have children to complete a marriage. There are economic reason to have children and there are economic reason not to have children. Children are a major responsibility and can be an economic stress. It should not be a religious obligation to procreate for the lord, that is between the married couple only.
@Biblisk Kristendom I agree, anxiety and fear shows a lack of trust in God. Which is something we all face.
And the first commandment God gave Adam and Eve, was to be fruitful and multiply
@@infinitenature703,
¿Just what about Patrick Saxon's comment shows anxiety and fear?
I see common sense.
Apparently that's something commonly lacking amongst religious types.
God didn't write those words, @its yeshua not jesus so get over it, humans did.
Use your brain.
How about a DEBATE on this topic? It could be: "Is Contraception Sinful?"
i agree
Women should have 100% control when or if they want to have children. Birth control is essential for women's physical and mental well being.
Absolutely not! This goes against Gods design and purpose for women in this world
Women are even more mentally ill an sadder then ever birth control has not helped. Christian men an women don’t have 100% ownership over themselves only God does.
@@stevenirizarry9427 How do you know what God's "design and purpose" for women would be?
Why do so many religious people feel like they're qualified to speak on God's behalf?
@@stephenkohler3472 have you read the Bible? God said it’s not good for man to be alone and made a helper suitable for him. As crazy is this may sound to people Gods purpose for creating women was to help the man fulfill his God given destiny
@@stevenirizarry9427 Last I checked the Bible was written by men. No matter the source, all your beliefs were edited by human beings.
I do not agree that EVERYONE has to have kids just because "its a blessing". That's a VERY selfish reason to have kids, in my humble opinion.
I also agree that not everyone is called to parenthood, or at least not at the moment. Having kids just because it’s a blessing does seem to be a selfish reason. But not having kids just to pursue your own worldly ends is also selfish, perhaps even more so, since you are living your life for yourself, not for a family and certainly not for God.
@@killianmiller6107 Did I even mention the reason why I don't want kids??? No, so don't make assumptions and stereotypes that it is because of pursuing worldly things! My reason is very UNSELFISH as to why I don't want to bring any INNOCENT humans into this world. It could be my own health, or my own life circumstances that made me decide to NOT BRING INNOCENT CHILDREN into this life. Also the corruption of this country and planet are another reason. So believe me, my reasons are VERY much UNselfish. So please before stereotyping everyone who chooses not to have kids, maybe at least ask them first.
Yes, it's a sin.
There can only be sin if there is a god to sin against. You have provided ZERO evidence that your invisible god exists.
@@nicholasflamel1134 Roman's 1. 18-32
@@claytonmcminn1121 Why do you think quoting things out of old book matters? Your bible says the earth is "fixed and unmovable", that bats are birds, that insects only have 4 legs, and that slavery is perfectly OK, even if it is enslavement of young virgin female war captives who's family you just murdered. You have ZERO evidence for your sadistic invisible god, and your old book is NOTHING to look to for moral guidance. Stop PRETENDING to know things you do not know.
I have a medical condition and I'm in pain and sick all the time so I use birth control pills to treat it. You think that's a sin? I'm most likely infertile anyway and it's my body. I don't deserve to suffer
@@aragornsonofarathorn2170 Do these delusional religious people THINK its a sin? Probably. They think anything some lying pastor or Republican politician tells them to think. The ACTUAL problem is, they don't THINK for themselves.
please comment on married couples having sex but don't want children
It doesn't matter if a married couple doesn't want children - according to Christianity. They must have them, and if they don't, they're just "selfish."
@@Hindutvaiscringe bring the scripture n back your answer bru
@@Hindutvaiscringe
"Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. BUT IF they cannot control themselves, THEY SHOULD MARRY, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion." 1 Corinthians 7: 8-9
And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein. Gen 9:7
@@TR-yy1ub an order for when the earth needed to be populated. And after God murdered everyone on the plant but Noah and his family, an order given when the earth needed to be repopulated. There's plenty of people on earth now - if people don't want to have children they don't have to have children.
This really helped me weigh the different options and perspectives to have around birth control for when I'm married someday. It's my first time thinking through this and this helped me think of this for the first time so thank you
I’ve only see two scriptures in the Bible where God told man to “be fruitful and multiple”. The first time to Adam and Eve when the world population was two. And again to Noah after the flood; world population was eight. Neither time did i see where it indicated that this was an lasting command for all generations. Unless I missed something, I have a gut feeling this is scripture has been misunderstood.
That's putting it very gently and politely.
I think people have gone completely off the deep end neurotically on this issue and lost their minds.
its yeshua not jesus so get over it What verses do you see that sex in a marriage is sin if you are taking measures to prevent pregnancy?
That was interesting. He actually sounded reasonable. I'm not a female so I won't make any definite statements. God bless.
But you are a human who was once carried in a mothers womb. You can make a statement too.
@@sarahs7253 True. I try to generate the positive in everyone.
@@RoLPeace what is the positive you are generating? i believe a man should have a say also. and you definatly can make a definitely statement about your beliefs, even if its contrary to someone elses beliefs.
i agree with what he’s saying for the most part, but he didn’t back most of it up with scripture. yes children are gifts, but how is not having children a sin? some people say that bc the bible says to be fruitful and multiply, every couple should have kids. but that doesn’t mean not having kids at the moment is a sin right? having kids is a gift, but that doesn’t mean every couple has to have a kid every time they have sex. if it was a sin then a couple who was infertile would be permanently stuck in sin bc they aren’t able to have kids. that would also mean a man shouldn’t always have to place his seed in his wife, while having sex. some scripture hints that that’s waiting seed, but that sperm will die anyway, just in your body, so what’s the difference if it is not used outside the body? and if that is true, then how would using a condom be considered a sin. idk i’m still a teenager and i’m trying to figure out what the bible says ab this topic. i’d appreciate feedback.
He did mention that the emphasis is on the word "control". He implies that we should not take control of our child-bearing abilities. Couples who dont have kids are held by God himself to not have kids: at least for the time they dont conceive.
@@josephokonkwo9776 I know its a stretch but that seems like saying "God should be in control of my life so I'm letting go of the steering wheel." We have many thousands of scientific advancements that allow us to "control" aspects of our life yet people don't talk about that as much. We are not supposed to sit by and wring our hands just waiting for the wind to blow us to our next thing to do.
I'm just starting to look into this topic because I think its an interesting question and it seems to me that most religious leaders oppose contraception because it is used out of wedlock, which I entirely agree is a sin but would you tell your brother to throw away his electronics because other people look at pornography on theirs? IMHO 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦 sin is more about the intent behind it (example: murder vs killing in self defense, having a single beer vs 8 shots) instead of the actual action.
I would like to clarify, if you feel God is telling you not to do something then absolutely follow that instead of ANYTHING else. This could mean that God told a former alcoholic that he should never drink again and that would be a different situation entirely, but that still wouldn't mean for you and me to have a few beers would always be a sin.
Please elaborate on the iud. It is my understanding that the copper acts as a spermicide. This would mean that fertilization actually does not occur. I would love to be sure though.
I think you're right. I know that the inflammatory reaction and changes to mucus in that area are two of the main points of the copper IUD. And hormonal forms of birth control work by preventing ovulation. So I'd also like to hear more about how preventing the egg from coming down to be fertilized in the first place is an abortion.
Go to Pulse life advocates Why the IUD is an abor on Google. You will see why some contraception are actually abor embryology has shown.
What if you can’t afford children but god said men owe women sex and he gave us the gift of sex for happiness and to better link the husband and wife. But if you don’t have enough money for a child are you not supposed to have sex?
Kellz Yes, I think that's what they're saying.
Only when she is obulating and once you get her pregnant, don't have sex again, until she is ready for another baby.
Patrick Saxon that makes no sense
Kellz, God didn't say those things.
Hot Ice read 1 corithians 7:3-4
Is pulling out a Sin?
Genesis 38:8-10
@@Make_Australia_British_Again In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone and marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again.
I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world...27
Yes for sure
Of course it is!
Of course it is NOT - and to suggest it is does untold harm
The Real Christ never told women to make sure they popped out kids for the devil that rules the religious world. As a matter of fact when God told Adam and Eve "be fruitful" it was before they sinned not after.
What?????
And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
Shoutout to all the woman who take birth control for acne or other reasons not related to sex !
Thank you! I've got endometriosis
its yeshua not jesus so get over it Wait one second. I know that is hard to believe, but I know of women who use birth control to help with abnormal cramp pain and acne. Not all women are using it because they want to have careless sex. Some women abstain from sex and still use it for more practical purposes.
@its yeshua not jesus so get over it not every teenage girl wants to be a mother
Why watch the video if you’re just going to leave hateful comments? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but he is simply providing insight on the situation for those dealing with this circumstance. If it’s not helpful to you then move on
I'm still looking for a Bible verse that would say it is wrong or not
Whatever the Bible doesn't prohibit, it permits. Even the Bible is clear on this in 1 Cor 6:12 "Everything is permissible to me, but not all things edify." It's also worth noting that the ancient Greco-roman world had effective chemical birth control in the form of a now-extinct plant called Silphium, yet Scripture saw fit not to even mention the topic.
you will not find one because is not. i wrote a comment on this abortion thing.
@@Nukepositive the story of onan is about contraception being a sin.
@@larryharbison9093 - not its not. Onan's sin was in not providing a child for his brother
@@Jagshemasher that was a sin, you’re correct, but usually they were only shamed in public for that, God slayed Onan. It’s an important detail that he withdrew because the act was used for pleasure since he attempted to take away the procreative aspect of it.
My husband and I really had no choice but a permanent birth control. I had 5 children and all 5 were c-sections. I have a lot of scar tissue and my 5th pregnancy was difficult. I was just done!!! I hate when people get judgmental about birth control when getting pregnant could be a death sentence for the mother and child.
Scar tissue should prevent pregnancy naturally
YES! USING BIRTH CONTROL IS A SIN!
I have 5 children, all c sections. I went on birth control because another pregnancy would have been very dangerous for me. Did I sin??
And owning slaves ain’t. Exodus 21
@Carolus Martellus Thank you . God Bless
@@debi_ChildofGod That depends on what kind of birth control. If you use NFP then you're not. If your periods are regular then it's more reliable than the pill and no side effects, no increased chance of breast cancer or any other health issues. It's what God intended for families if not abused and in your case it would not be abusing the natural way God gave us. Many families do abuse NFP and they use it for the wrong reasons. You'd be using it for the right reasons and you wouldn't be wrong to continue it indefinitely.
@@1Hope4All My husband got the V after i hit 40. Theres an increase of stokes in a lot of birth control after 40. and hes in his 50s now. We are looking forward to grandchildren at this point. :)
Children are a gift and birth control doesn't prevent God from gifting you. You deciding when the time is right is your free right. Baptists in general supported birth control, abortion and family planning until Ronald Reagan's culture war. A culture war that is forbidden in the book of Titus. Making non-Christians live under Christian law is forbidden in Corinthians. I would be careful what ideologies I attach myself to. It may be a stumbling block.
Well if baptists support abortion than they are not being a true christian
@@dellaswanson9837 could you please quote me the scripture opposing abortion?
@@thesavoyard "thou shall not murder"
@@thesavoyard "your hands made me and formed me" psalm 119:3a
@@thesavoyard "For You formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb. I praise You for I am fearfully and womderfully made. Wonderful are Your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from You, WHEN I WAS BEING MADE IN SECRET, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my UNFORMED SUBSTANCE. In YOUR BOOK were written, every one of them. The days that were formed for me, when as yet there were none of them."
Children are gifts from God and every child is genetically unique and special ---no two children are alike.........God loves them all!
children aren’t the only gift God gives nor is everyone meant to be parents.
@@jj4891 finally someone with sense
@@asdfghjzxcvbnm7637 yeah looks like it.
I think be fruitfull and multiple means.
Be a good Christian & help another people to be good Christians
@@jj4891 Yes not everyone is meant to be a parent but if you have been granted the gift of fertility then you have your answer. There is a reason YOU are fertile and the next person is not fertile. Fertility means YOU have been chosen by God to be a parent!! Congratulations! AND you are correct, children aren't the only gift but they are a result of the greatest gift which IS giving LIFE to another human being.
Not a single Bible verse mentioned.
Because there are no verses on this topic, likewise do the catholics pull assertions on birth control from sources outside of the Bible in the stoics.
The Bible is not the only source of divine truth. Arguments from nature and tradition are acceptable in establishing the truth of theological viewpoints, though not preferred.
@Tim Carter Thank you, that actually is very relevant to my concerns. Good timing haha. Have a blessed day.
The reason the Bible does not specifically mention birth control is because only the pagan world used it having kids when married was always the celebrated default of marriage unless one is chaste. If one happens to have relations an don’t get pregnant naturally then that was Gods timing.
''children are a gift''
tell that to a women who got raped and got the abortion denied.
The child itself is still a gift and can go on to live a great life
@@swoopes7777 wtf
Literally less than 1% of abortions are done because someone was raped. Check your facts
Most women who are pregnant from rape don’t regret there children living. Whether if someone wants something or not doesn’t change if it’s a gift. All human life is valuable statistically abortion make the rape experience even worse because there’s the death of a child. An now she has blood on her hands.
No child is an accidental child but some parents may be accidental parents.
children should be born out of love not because it is the low
@@erikjanhobma Not because it is the law.
G K Chesterton quote “ best form of birth control is self control ‘
I'm married...and my wife has had three pregnancies. Two were horrible, and she almost died (went into renal failure from the rupture). One was born 2 months premature and the child almost died along with the mother. We are done trying pregnancies.
So we now use birth control. Because we are both still under 40 years old, so we still want to be intimate with each other.... but having my wife almost dying everytime she is pregnant is not being responsible for the child we have.
So the best form of birth control is whatever you discuss with your wife, and is best for the family.
Then you must be a virgin if you believe that self control is the best form of birth control. You sound like that you never had sex in your life. Sex is natural, normal and very healthy and to hold off from your married partner is a sin according to the bible.
Pat Saxon Rape is also a sin in the Bible. If a man forces himself on his wife when she rejects that’s a sin and vice versa. Self-control doesn’t stop after marriage.
Nope, you are wrong! Sex is also a privilage and a gift from God to enjoy. It is a part that makes a relationship wonderful and obligation between married couples. You don't have to complete a marriage by having children. There are reasons for family planning?", "Can I afford to have children?", "Is it something I want?" "Is it the right time?" "How many can I afford?" and these are logical questions that couples should asked them selves and you really do not have to have children to complete a marriage. There are economic reason to have children and there are economic reason not to have children. Children are a major responsibility and can be an economic stress. It should not be a religious obligation to procreate for the lord, that is between the married couple only.
@@patricksaxon3983 couples do not need to have children to complete their marriage. But not consummating (having sexual intercourse) means the marriage is not complete. Because the two has not come together as one flesh. If sex does not take place, the couple has not come together as one flesh because they have not given or received of the body of their spouse.
Unfortunately, his claim that birth control methods that prevent implantation are abortifacients is factually incorrect. Pregnancy occurs only when the fertilized egg (or blastocyst) implants in the uterine wall. By definition, a woman is not pregnant if there has been no implantation. If a woman is not pregnant, she cannot have an abortion. Let me say this again: you cannot have an abortion if you are not pregnant, so labeling birth control that prevents implantation as a method of "abortion" is medically false.
I understand your reasoning, and technically based on current literature, you are correct, but that has not always been the case. Back (in the 90s, I think) they affirmed pregnancy began at conception, not implantation. Who knows the exact motives, but the medical community eventually changed their position and now views the beginning of pregnancy as implantation. My concern is that all the DNA and genetic makeup of a human is present at fertilization (conception). Your answer included when doctors would acknowledge pregnancy begins, but what is your take on when life begins, because this is the central controversy for Christians using birth control and thus the main point of his argument? Obviously, when life begins is disputed, but I think that is a far more important question, than when medical professionals validate a pregnancy.
Can there be implantation without conception?
That's not true. Life begins from the time fertilization happens..
Procreation is one of the purposes of marriage? Not all marriages. Because, if that were so, there would be no such thing as barren women, nor sterile men, nor miscarriages, nor stillbirths. And some people do not want to bring children into this evil world but do want to have a domestic partner. Also, if someone were really a Christian, they would adopt before procreating; they would pity the orphans. To bring new ones in, when there are still orphans in the world, is selfish.
Complete nonsense view you got there
Uh spread forth and multiply... dont spout off about how one is or is not christian if you do not understand the faith.
@@crypticcity5529 Understand the faith? The faith is to love God and others with all one's heart, mind, spirit, strength, or in other words 100%, and adopting an orphan instead of procreating evinces that faith / love, whereas procreating instead of adopting denies it. Such faith / love is only found in a few in this world. Jesus himself questioned if, upon his return, he would even find ONE who had this faith / love (Luke 18:8).
@@DDFreeman procreating doesnt deny it, you can still adopt if you have a child you know 😂
@@crypticcity5529 Which is more loving, to adopt one and procreate one, or to adopt two and procreate none? The question answers itself. Imagine yourself being one of those orphans - no family, no parents, unwanted, and probably abused. It would mean the world to you to be adopted by two loving parents, maybe even save your life. Yet the common thought carnal men have is to "pass on" their genes and so they are gung-ho to procreate and don't even take any thought about the orphans. It is a stupid cruel world. Thank God that when Jesus returns only God's people will inherit it and all of the stupidity and evil will end !! Amen !!
I’ll save you all 8 minutes. No there is nothing wrong or sinful about using birth control, and anyone who says otherwise is wrong. Pure and simple.
The reason birth control is sinful has to do with God's design for sex.
God made sex for two purposes namely for procreative purposes and unitive purposes (meaning to deepen the love and bond between the spouses)
However one must never separate the procreative purposes of sex from it's unitive purposes because God never intended for the two to be separate. For every act in marriage to be chaste it must meet both the procreative and unitive purposes of sex.
Let's take IVF for example: it's procreative but it's not unitive because there is no sexual union which takes place between the spouses which bonds them together. Therefore it's not within God's will because it separates the procreative purposes of sex from it's unitive purposes.
Birth control does the opposite of IVF. The sexual union takes place but it's closed off to procreation thereby rendering the act sterile. So birth control separates the sexual union from it's procreative purposes.
Let's take BDSM as another example. It is possible for BDSM to be procreative but hitting, choking, tying up your spouse during sex does not bond you together so it's non unitive and therefore BDSM should also not be practiced in a Christian marriage because it also separates the procreative from the unitive.
Unnatural sexual acts are all non procreative and non unitive so it's not within God's design.
Not saying God wants us to conceive every time we have sex but we should at least be open to life resulting from that act so if it is impossible that a baby could result from the act you are doing or it's contraceptive then it's wrong.
People can look up natural family and use that (prayerfully and with reason) instead of condoms, birth control and artificial contraceptives.
That’s false, it’s entirely sinful and will send one to hell. The Catholic Church absolutely does not accept any form of contraception.
Obeying God is "pure" not sinning against him. Your "opinion" doesn't matter
Just hugg your wife
Lol, not married yet, just wondering in it.
@@PrincePeno me to, but there should be completely no touching before marriage
@@thenameofthegame4037 Of course, what are you thoughts on using “Condoms”?
@@PrincePeno doesn't matter.
All I know is that I try to follow a thing in my heart what most people refer to as 'god'
And that thing learned me that if you want to be able to feel him. Understand him and follow him.
You should take extremely good care of your body mind and soul.
Maby even give up sexual intimacy completely.
If sexual pleasures are used for pleasure only it will become a dangerous thing than will posses you.
Marriage is a holy thing
Marriage mean to promise someone that you will be there for her.
(and you should want to do this like you life depends on it. Because actually it does. Take marriage serious if it meant for you. Because its no joke. Divorce is hell.
Especially for children.
Always be there no matter what your state of being.
You can always do right.
Doing wrong is a choose
That our body forces sometimes
Repenting is the rent to salvation.
If meant, Pick the right woman out of the storm (this world)
Its better not to mary then to marry to the wrong one.
Make wise decisions. life is all about decisions. Its a continuous day by day war all about making or creating decisions.
We live in a crazy world full of temptations to things that are bad enough to call the destiny: hell
Creating a strong Defense against the bad things in life is the most important thing to desire.
So you can fight back against every thing that wants to harm what is good in this world
Thats all we can and I think should do in this life no matter the limitations of our bodys.
Read Rome Sweet Home by Scott and Kimberly Hahn. Kimberly set out to biblically prove Catholic teaching was wrong on this subject and she and her husband (an anti Catholic Protestant pastor and biblical teacher) ended up converting to Catholicism. Fascinating book.
Read it & underlined their thoughts. I saw a lot of “I felt” and “we think” all the way through that book. It’s an ok story but very subjective. I think that some of their “discoveries” were taken out of context and very subjective. Again, nice story but they need to go back to their research.
@@jaylightfoot3303 I am pretty sure the research has been thorough. The book is over two decades old and has been updated multiple times. Their conclusion remains unchanged for them who had six children. Ultimately the ingredient that is necessary when discerning content like this is the wisdom of the Holy Spirit. Our human nature can block us from what God is trying to show us.
@@janinepettit2019 agreed. Except that ultimately the Holy Spirit gives us common sense and wisdom to follow the rules of interpretation when handling rightly, the Word of God. Longevity of a book is no indicator of correct interpretation. If longevity were an indicator then the satanic bible has been around way longer. There are rules of interpretation that must be followed when interpreting scripture. Feelings are not part of interpretation.
100 years ago, all denominations almost unequivocally were against all forms of birth control. What changed? Are we following the culture on this?
Birth control is a very valid question in highly populous countries like India and China. And, generally speaking, we already are overpopulated across the globe.
@T M in GODS ARMY!
Well, the culture got rid of things like slavery, although the bible is still perfectly ok with it. I would say culture got it right on several new developments like that.
Thank God for Margaret Sanger who lead the birth control movement in 1921, because birth control was considered illegal back then.
@@missaleromanum5614 if everyone has to subsist and needs to be left to the vagaries of nature and disease, then yes, we are not overpopulated. But if we want industrialization which brings access to important things like medicine, food distribution, clothing which requires a well developed transportation system which again requires industrial scale of energy prodution, we are definitely overpopulated!! When God gave us technology, he also gave us birth control, why do we have to blame the devil for everything?? Don't we have our own God given free will and heads to use? There are birth control methods that don't involve killing the embryo which can be used for sure, which is again possible only if there is large scale industrialization.
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Very much appreciate this “honest answer” from a truth/biblical perspective. For me this presentation is clear and to the point. I am a married evangelical woman who attended public school and received sex education there. When I couple what I was taught about oral contraceptive in sex ed with this simple dividing line between before and after fertilization I find the answer I was seeking. Thank you for these helpful videos Southern Seminary.
What about birth control for cramps or acne ? Are they a sin too ?
~sarcasm~
They aren’t a sin if used for that. Because God knows that you are using it for that reason.
Sooooo many safe options for cramps and acne compared to taking drugs that DO MESS UP your own natural hormones and DO raise the risk of developing certain cancers (proven statistically to raise breast cancer risk by nearly 25%)!
Pharmaceutical birth control drugs actually ALTER your body's hormones, when are people going to understand that it is extremely harmful and leads to so many cancers and issues in the future??? As King Soloman said, my people perish from lack of knowledge! And to this day people are suffering needlessly from lack of KNOWLEDGE.
LOOK AT ALL THE MEN WHO THINK THEY KNOW SHIT ABOUT BIRTH CONTROL!
You're all a joke.
@@ObsidianNightFury Would that be the god that created cramps and acne?
I hate how bc makes me feel anyway
Any birth control after conception is murder. Abortion is wrong on every angle. However, if a married couple choose not to have more children and it is not taking a life how is this wrong? Should you keep having children even through you can not pay for them or raise them correctly. Children are very expensive and I would rather have less children and have my wife raise them in the home than to have more children and be forced to have the State raise them. This is a question only the couple can answer.
So, was me having an abortion 4 weeks ago because I have a serious amount of health issues wrong? I was on my death bed for a week when I had my daughter back in 2015. I immediately had Filshie clips put on my tubes to prevent pregnancy and took birth control. Both failed. Having an abortion was my only option if I wanted to stay alive for my daughter and four step children.
So is it truly wrong on every angle? Or am I supposed to risk almost dying again and leave my five kids to suffer?
@@motherdemoness2739 i think you can answer your own question whether allowing your child to get murdered is right or not. Its obvious like many people who abort feel incredibly guilty about it becaus ethey know its wrong. I would rather die than kill the child im pregnant with because I know that God knows better and He always has better
@@dellaswanson9837 mmm. Nope. I don’t have any guilt. Nice try, babe. Was I supposed to die and leave my children without a mother? If that’s the case then you’re not pro-life. Only pro-birth. A fetus’s life is not near as valuable as mine is when I’m a mother of five already.
@@motherdemoness2739 maybe its not about your choice or what you want. Maybe that decision belongs to God alone. I wouldnt fight Him over that.
That’s your opinion everyone should have the choice I don’t like abortion but people should be given the choice
I noted a few inaccuracies in the mechanisms of birth control. You should consider redoing this particular video.
In my personal opinion, no, birth control is not sin. By the same logic of “preventing life” or “preventing God’s gift” being sin, one could argue that abstaining or refusing sex is sin, which of course isn’t true. I also believe that God is who creates souls, not humans, so if a child is born, it was fated to be and part of God’s plan. If a human makes a decision that would otherwise result in children, then it wasn’t fated to be. God does not explicitly forbid the decisions humans make not to have children, birth control is merely a tool, to aid in that decision. And I disagree with your interpretation of the semantic of “control”. It is not control in the sense of controlling fate or God’s plan, no more than control over how fast you go to work and the decision to drive a car being a sin because it increases the chances of dying.
Did yu kno God wanted everyone to go to heaven? But not everyone goes to heaven because God gave us free reign over our actions nd that means we can sin if thats our choice but God doesn't like sin because it separates us from Him nd if He had it His way no one would sin "The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance." 2 Peter 3:9. Yu cant just say God's will is always fulfilled because thats not the case because if it was the Earth would have been a much better place
@@justusetpeccator_ In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone and marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again.
I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world.zq.
Thank you for sharing this perspective. I think a more balanced and nuanced conversation is needed for such a topic. For example, the songs of Solomon highlights that sex is pleasurable and should be enjoyed within a marriage covenant. So sex within marriage isn’t only for procreation. Also, when you discussed your personal use of conception, it would be nice to hear your wife’s perspective and how she felt finding out she was pregnant shortly after.
In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone and marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again.
I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world...2
@@a.39886 yo, quit spammin'
@@invictagecko9606 do you feel threaten by this?
There are reasons for family planning?", "Can I afford to have children?", "Is it something I want?" "Is it the right time?" "How many can I afford?" and these are logical questions that couples should asked them selves and you really do not have to have children to complete a marriage. There are economic reason to have children and there are economic reason not to have children. Children are a major responsibility and can be an economic stress. It should not be a religious obligation to procreate for the lord, that is between the married couple only.
Yes!!!
Then that shows lack of trust in God.
Worrying is a sin. God ALWAYS provides.
@@RealwithAida I wouldn't necessarily call it a sin
Alexandra sooo their worrying cuz they are making plans.
@@rachelscottspeaks8097 I don't want to clean stinking shit and hear whining babies.Does that makes me selfish???
A repost from a reply I did.. because I'm so sick of people painting birth control as a sin:
I'm married...and my wife has had three pregnancies. Two were horrible, and she almost died (went into renal failure from the rupture). One was born 2 months premature and the child almost died along with the mother. We are done trying pregnancies.
So we now use birth control. Because we are both still under 40 years old, so we still want to be intimate with each other.... but having my wife almost dying every time she is pregnant is not being responsible for the child and family we have.
So the best form of birth control is whatever you discuss with your wife, and is best for the family. Birth control is NOT directly discussed in the bible. So discuss, and pick the route that is best for your FAMILY...or yourself.
Logan there is one method discussed in Genesis 38 and the man was struck by God and killed for it, so i think that’s pretty clear what God thinks of birth control...
@@user-qd1by3kp6g , Onan was struck down for selfishness. It was the intent behind the act that caused his death. He was to give the wife of his brother children, so the lineage could continue. He did not want to raise his brother's children, and deceived. He used the woman as a sex object, and did not do any of his actions out of love...and only for his own selfishness. This passage has nothing to do with the sin of masturbation or birth control. It is a man that treated a woman horribly and did not do what he was *DIRECTLY* asked to do.
You can twist any old testament passage to mean anything. If Jesus did not address it, then I do not believe it was important enough for God to make a judgement on it. No one follows all the laws in Leviticus. And no one should take ALL actions in the old testament as their personal actions. People should take away the intent and purpose of the story, and not cherry pick one verse to mean a "Commandment from God!"
Logan i disagree, but that’s ok. 👍🏻
I recommend natural family planning. I know people who didn't get pregnant for 15 years through this, it has on certain days a pearl index of 0 and no negative health effects. Most contraception causes early abortions and is only not counted as such, because legally speaking you get counted as pregnant after the zygote implamanted in the womb, even though the zygote already has a full human dna at conception. So most birth control that contains hormones is sinful, because of them causing early abortions and therefore taking innocent lives. But they are unhealthy and you can still get unplanned pregnant anyway, so I recommend you either buy a book about natural family planning or go to a course about it (some courses are online). Wish you all the best!
@@tamaratodorovic
I actually got a vasectomy. My wife has been through enough. Allows us to share our love anytime we wish, and has a 99.98% effective rate. And no health risks to my wife. Thank you though.
I'm 14 years old. Please keep that in mind before you comment, since I've seen some pretty aggressive comments on both sides. Just remember you're talking to a depressed 14 year old.
I plan to get my tubes tied when I turn 18. I've never wanted kids, even when I was asked about it as a small child. I don't believe I will change my mind. Abortion is a different subject, so let's leave it out of this. Birth control is the woman's choice. The man can be involved, but mainly it is her decision. (Obviously don't tell your husband/boyfriend that you're on the pill when you're not, that's just deceptive.) It is your choice whether you support it, but I do.
And if you want abortion rates to go down, you should love birth control. Birth control prevents the need for abortion.
Children are not a gift for everyone. They would not be a gift for me. Many people should not have children. My mother is abusive, and I believe that she should not have had a child.
I'm gay, so I couldn't accidentally get pregnant, which just adds another level of "ew" to the whole thing for me.
You're only 14 years old, that is a very confusing time of life. Don't make life changing decisions like that when you're so young. Enjoy your childhood, and pray to God for wisdom and clarity about any things that might be troubling you/confusing you. But like it says in James, make sure your faith is in God alone before you ask. A double minded person shouldn't expect to receive anything from the Lord. May the Lord bless you with clarity, truth, and righteousness. Read God's word, it has all the answers you are searching for.
Any form of birth control is a sin. Do not knowingly prevent pregnancy. It is a willful sin before God. Do not do anything permanent especially because later you might change your mind.
I don't know where you can find a dr. who will permanently sterilize an 18 yr. old. That's malpractice.
Since you are not expecting to have heterosexual sex, there would be no physical reason for the procedure.
I urge to to spend time reading the bible and trust God for guidance and peace.
i completely agree. im 15 and have similar plans. it should be the womans choice whether or not to have kids and too many people use religion as a way to try and do so. i believe youre very brave for speaking out at such a young age. i also have depression and its amazing that youre comfortable speaking out. keep your head high! much love,
@@Aleksandrovich1989 don't tell other people what to do. its not your choice, ya know
Simple answer... if you want kids then have kids, if you dont want kids use a birth control .. whichever form you choose. It is not bad or wrong or immoral. What is more important is how your body reacts and feels while using a birth control. Put yourself first and make this the life you want to live. :)
Is we don't want anymore kids the same as we cannot in no way afford anymore kids?
But your reward is in heaven, when you breed and procreate for the lord. According to Tony Perkins of the Washington Watch christian radio show, large families are a blessings.
Pat Saxon
But what if a person can’t financially have a family. Not everyone is destined to have a family.😑🤷🏻♂️
@@patsaxon5284 not really in my country large family is having financial problems
@@allisonali3439 To add to that, the state does not even provide adequate support to allow people to have many children.
@@kennethfok I lived in Philippines our country is very religious and every family here is large (not all) other family is not educated enough to know the contraceptives and family planning especially the poor one
(my English is not that good)
Umm…some women uses birth control as a method to have regular periods, clear skin and keep hormones in check. Try having your period once every 4-6 months and passing out several times due to pain and blood loss.
It's not the birth control itself, it's the purpose. Prevent pregnancy and used for other medical conditions is fine (no child involved). After conception it is not.