TaylorMade Qi10 Max vs Ping G430 MAX 10K: The most forgiving drivers ever? 🤯
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- TaylorMade and Ping have launched their most forgiving drivers ever with 10,000 MOI, so we put their claims under the microscope in a head-to-head test!
TaylorMade Qi10 Max and Ping G430 MAX 10K looks set to be two of the biggest-selling drivers of 2024, but would they live up to their promises in the hands of TG test pro Neil Wain?
Plus, Neil and equipment Simon Daddow talk you through all of the tech in the two drivers, the stories behind the models and dive into the data to help you decide which is best for your game.
Read our full review of the TaylorMade Qi10 Max ➡️ www.todays-gol...
Read our full review of the Ping G430 Max 10K ➡️ www.todays-gol...
For more equipment tests and reviews, Top 100 golf courses rankings, tour news, insight, interviews and loads more, visit the Today's Golfer website: www.todays-golf...
FOLLOW US
Subscribe to our channel: / todaysgolfer
Today's Golfer on Facebook: / todaysgolferbauer
Today's Golfer on X: / thetodaysgolfer
Today's Golfer on Instagram: / todaysgolfer
Today's Golfer on Threads: www.threads.ne...
![Megan Thee Stallion - Neva Play (feat. RM) [Official Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/TpYTyAaTRts/mqdefault.jpg)
💰🤑To avoid any confusion the TaylorMade Qi10 Max has a price of £499 / $599, where the Ping G430 Max 10K is £599 / $650.🤑💰
G430 10K already reduced to £550 in UK.
Thanks for your input @@Liam.Bellamy
Got the Ping 10K set at 7.5 flat. It's a low spin beast with plenty of height when I tee it up with a 4" tee. I'm probably the most accurate driver in my group of buds. This might not fair lol.
Thanks for your input, good to hear you've found a set-up that works for you.
Great guys. Two questions. What are the S and X next to the Taylormade max on your chart? Plus Ping is continuing their SFT driver?
Hi Paul yes Ping will continue the G430 SFT throughout this year.
It was the Tensei Blue S and Mitsubishi Diamana X.
Hope that helps
Just wondering for the Qi10 MAX 8.5 degree test, did you guys use the 10.5 degree head and drop it to 8.5 degree? Also, for the Qi10 MAX 9 degree head will it get similar backspin like the 8.5version (something like 2400RPM)? thx
We did.
Yes we'd expect more manageable spin number for Neil from the 9deg head, it also would not have an open face angle thanks to dialling down the loft.
Hope that helps.
Well done. Thank you 😊
Thanks for taking the time to say so. 👍
great review I think this years Driver lineup is gonna very competitive across the board will be tough to choose which brand to go with just wish the prices were not so outlandish 800-900 canadian for a driver is getting pretty steep cheers all from Vulcan Canada
Tough to chose for sure, there's some very strong options that warrant the upgrade this year.
Thanks for your feedback.
👍
Only the rich golfer can afford those prices! One can get clubs with similar tech at less than half the price and almost brand new.
Biggest Big Bertha in 1997 was around US $500 and approx $1000 in Australia. Wow, was it a game changer! Price doesn't look too bad in 2024 relatively. Although at 75 yo now it won't make much difference to me. LOL.
@@iangodsell9073 We feel your pain Ian. Thanks for your input.
You gents are the best!
Thanks Robert.
Love your work boys.
Thanks for taking the time to say so Warwick, much appreciated.
would be good to see the comparison in dispersion in your video's😀. Both numbers and the actual shots. Thank you
This was just a first hit video Daniel so we didn't include it. We have done further testing since and you can see the dispersion data versus most other 2024 driver here on our website.
shorturl.at/tEGJV
👇Scroll to the bottom of the page.
2023 Taylormade: “Our new mini driver is so good, no one needs to play a $600 driver anymore!”
2024 Taylormade: “Hold my beer.”
Did they really say that?
I think the volume of all these drivers is 460 cc, may be the face depth is smaller or the back is elongated just a bit in the max like the burner of the dinosaur era
Both profiles sit right on the edge of the rules, it's how you shape the 460cc that allows you to do this. Ping reduce face height, where TM have a really clever over hanging skirt.
Ping markets the 10k to spin less than the standard max. Does taylormade say the qi10 max is supposed to spin less than the standard qi10?
It's not been part of their marketing ploy.
From what we've seen the Qi10 Max is spinning more than the standard Qi10, hence why we can dial down loft.
Wouldn't it be better testing maximum forgiveness drivers with slow swinging high handicapper? Having a great ball striker with high speed makes no sense.
Understand where you're coming from JBH, but these two forgiving drivers are aimed at any/all golfers.
Neil typically prefers more forgiving drivers over lower spin models (albeit he is is playing the G430 LST currently) and players like Collin Morikawa are playing the TM Qi10 Max on tour. So, to say they're only for slower speed high handicappers isn't being fair to them.
@todaysgolfer appreciate your comments, thanks
Tour pros like Cam Champ have 10k in play as it’s lower spinning than the max model.
Thanks for your input@@markushayes amazing that just a few years ago the idea of tour pros using a 10K MOI driver would have been almost unthinkable.
Again great information but leave the data on the screen,we’re not tuning in to see these two guys
Thanks for the feedback, we'll have a word with our video editor.
What about sound ?
Ping say the 10k Max is a little louder, it's not something we really picked up or found distracting. Nothing like the G425.
Hope that helps.
Which gives the best MOI per £
Ping.
In the UK the Ping is 0.06p per MOI point, where the TaylorMade is 0.05p.
If you wait another year ping are bringing out the new drivers
Question is will there be another 10K option?
Thoughts?
🙀
If you had dropped the ping 10k to 9 Degree the launch angle, spin and height would have all come down plus more ball speed and distance, hardly a fair test.
Absolutely correct, but spin (1993 RPM) and shot height (23 YDS) then become unplayable for Neil, which isn't the case with the TM.
We've just published a driver test data chart on our website to show the pair compared at various lofts and against all the leading 2024 competition if you're interested.
shorturl.at/moDKY
@@todaysgolfer launch was over a degree higher and higher spin, making it a similar loft would have given similar numbers to the taylormade in 8.5.
@@FPLGOLFER Completely understand why you'd think that in theory, we thought the same. In reality though the numbers didn't quite stack up, as the test data on our website shows.
When testing it's important to understand we want to use the same specs for each club. That's always our start point. There are times however when it's necessary to set the driver up to best fit the player, if we're give an honest opinion of how the club performs and avoid using misleading data. Where we do this we of course show why and how we've done it.
🤌🎯
These are not interesting videos. A good video has hitting, sound, shot tracer, outdoors demo'ing and indoors, numbers, etc. Not two guys chatting about a screen and paper. Hannah has you guys beat.
Thanks for your opinion Station.
As an amateur golfer looking to pick between these two drivers and having seen all the videos where pros hit every ball straight and long, this video is exactly what I was after to help me decide. Thanks guys and keep up the good work.
@@wixsas Go look up Hanna's video on these - she does a great job discussing all their points these 2 guys read off the websites, but then she does a fair share of testing OUTDOORS - discussing sound, feel, performance, misses, etc.. (also, go get fit, yourself).
@@wixsas Thanks so much for taking the time to say so, glad we could help.
Ping loose a lot of customers because of the feel and sound alone
Well they lose those less interested in performance
@@paulmcgee1867 if this was the case then Taylor made would not be the most played driver on all tours.
TM is not the most played and hasn’t been in at least 4 years. They survey drivers in 3 categories.
1. Top count(Titleist and Ping have been 1 and 2 consistently with TM coming in third)
2. Top Model: Ping has won this with LST almost every week (Titleist in 2nd TSR3, usually with Callaway third)
#1 at both Masters and Memorial for example.
3. Non contractual. Ping easily wins this week in week out. At a recent full field event on PGA tour Ping had 14 staffers and 39 drivers in play. At KFT they had 17 staffers and 47 drivers. TM rarely has more than 3 or 4 non staffers playing their driver. If they ain’t paying them they ain’t playing them