Matt Rife: The Disadvantages of Being Attractive
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Gaining over 18 million followers on Tik Tok, Matt Rife’s success eventually led him to a Netflix special. Known for being the “hot comedian” fans swooned over Rife’s crowd work, pushing his Tik Tok content into the millions of views. However, his rise came to a sudden stall when the internet turned against him, over one joke in particular. Perhaps this is the result time and time again of a star who rises to fame too fast, or perhaps beauty isn’t that advantageous after all.
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If ur a lonely kid who is ugly people will assume that you're creepy, when ur the quiet kid who is attractive everybody will think that you're mysterious. Talking about self-experience. Looks matter a lot these days.
If you’re ND or disabled, god help, cause regardless of attractiveness level, NT people can notice it from a mile and immediately you’re “creepy” regardless. Only if you’re an attractive woman you can sort of get away, and by get away I mean be absolutely fetishized
They've always mattered
Looks have always mattered
An attractive quiet kid can also be seen as stuck-up because “how could an attractive person be antisocial/ have social anxiety?”
Ugly quiet kids get pitied more because people think “they just don’t have anyone *on their level* to be friends with”.
@@Currentlyprocrastinating37People project their insecurities onto quiet people so bad istg
Hanging out with my attractive cousin was always surreal. We'd just be out walking and men would yell at her from across the street to join them. Men would follow her around. Men would smile creepily at her. It was kind of unsettling. And to her it was white noise. I'd never been more grateful to be a 6/10 woman, since being a hot girl seems to mean being harassed by men so much you don't even notice it anymore. (Though she also had some horror stories)
Really? I'd assume you'd get more attention as a 6/10 girl because guys are more likely to approach you because they view you as the "easier target" with a higher success rate for shagging.
Exactly my life! On another point, my cousin and I have been living in different countries for 20 years, now suddenly she's always with me and I feel very protective of her because men are just the worst 😮💨
My best friend is incredibly pretty, that classic kind of pretty with a symmetrical face. The amount of shouts, whistles she gets from men are ridiculous. It feels creepy, to her as well as to me. I always just insert myself between her and them so they piss off. And then there are also countless of SA attempts, and some not just attempts unfortunately. Being an attractive woman might have benefits, but it also puts you in a lot of danger
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@@marina-gb6jz You're the jealous friend.
I feel like Henry Cavil is also a good example of someone has the disadvantage of being attractive because he's honestly been sexually harassed during interviews by hosts and co-stars and had his opinions belittled. People laugh it off as just being "thirsty" for him, and expect him to take it because he's a guy and supposedly doesn't have it as hard as 'ugly' people. So, I guess my point is that attractiveness allows people to excuse and get away with objectification, which hurts the person being objectified. Also, as the attractive can either second guess people's motives all the time, their own worth, or the value in really working hard; good people like Cavil try to avoid this and Matt Rife pointed out the disadvantage.
Anyways, great video!
Henry being harassed is more of a gender issue that allows such behaviors to be even shown. It's supposed to be not viewed as a negative at all, but a compliment for most men to boost their confidence or ego as you said. He of course lives entirely different than others, which is why it's subjectively okay and why he has take it head on. Also, Henry is an actor that fulfills roles that sexually objectifies him anyways; films do well just because of his looks solely and I'm sure he knows it humbly. I'm not downplaying his work ethic or anything of that sort, but it's inevitable that physical looks will overshadow your efforts in a visually, driven industry. The whole thing about ulterior motives applies to everyone but on a lower frequency level; for all celebrities, they would probably need to be cautious about people using them or undermining their so called worth.
That said, I don't believe anything in life doesn't have some sort of drawback or downside. When the advantages of attraction vastly outweighs the negatives, it practically negates them because you are honestly way better off otherwise. Not to say you can just solely rely on it, but understand how much more difficult it is if you didn't have it to do anything in life. Don't think about looking average, but actually perceived ugly in society since we are talking about the extreme ranges of the spectrum. Literally anyone would want to have some perceived attraction about themselves, which is why it's associated with luck and hated for.
Who
Cares
Most men wish they were Henry Cavil
Ever heard of leg extension surgery?
@@CrimsonBladeWielder1998 why even mention this . this is Soo stupid 💀
And the fact that him being objectified is normalized just because he is a man. It's ridiculous. Absolute double standards. Nonetheless, Henry wouldn't like to live the life of an unattractive person for a day if he was given the choice lmao.
@@La_Horca your goddamn right he wouldn’t
*Absolutely Brutal*
It hurts to hear my parasocial girlfriend call herself mid.
NoSkates cannot skate in the skate zone because Donna filed a restraining order against him.
That's what makes her more attractive. She knows her place in the social hagiarchy. There's nothing worse than a guy/girl who thinks they're hotter than they actually are.
But then it can get into dangerous territory of low self-esteem if someone calls themselves mid. The ultimate goal is to be comfortable with yourself and to be the best person you can be through personal growth. @@canadianturtle7240
@@canadianturtle7240and she is smart
@@canadianturtle7240That's so true because when I saw her for the first I just saw a mid girl talking about the internet. But as I kept watching she seemed like a female friend to me who understood my struggles and cared about me thanks to her self-demeaning humor. I feel a connection to her which I never did when I would look at hot girls with hourglass bodies. I guess now it's obvious that relatable-ity is the key to being successful in any kind of relationship
The disadvantages of being attractive are kind of like the disadvantages of being a tall man. Sure there are times when it might be annoying to be constantly asked how's the weather up there, have people ask to get things off the top shelf, worry about blocking people's view at the cinema, or fitting into a plane seat, but it still has an overwhelmingly a positive impact on your life.
I'd like to say, it really depends on your physique. My bf is nearly 2 meters tall, sufferes from several health impacts, so no, being attractive is not on par with being tall. You'll never have physical problems/disadvantages from being too pretty, but from being too tall? Yes, absolutely. I do see your point on being tall being percieved as a good thing (eventhough in reality it's not, at least not always).
It depends on so many other factors. If you're constantly being treated as simply the "pretty boy/girl" and people don't take you seriously because of it, or when they have overly high expectations and pretty people don't meet those high expectations, they get judged extraordinarily harshly. I do not think it's quite the same as being tall. It depends on which kinds of advantages you happen to value more as well. Then there is the attractive guy who is short, or the beautiful woman who is 6 foot.
As a tall guy, these are not problems and are hardly annoying
IDK, i'm 192 cm(6'4) and never really noticed any particular advantages from it(beyond it being useful for the sport that i used to play).
@@awesomedinosaur3033I am 6”5 and have no disadvantages
Sorry but the title is wrong, he had no disadvantage from being attractive, his disadvantage was his personality
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Accurate
looks can't save bad personality
Nuh, the real disadvantage is women disliking douches. HOW DARE THEY?
right he’s not even attractive
Matt Rife is wild to me. He was so embarrassed about having a female audience that he decided to use his Netflix special specifically to try and get rid of his own audience with a 1950s style DV joke. So many entertainers would be happy just to have an audience period.
Most didnt really care about his stand up they mainly wanted to just thirst over him and fantasize about him. Thats the equavalent of saying women should stop complaining about men giving so much attention they should be greatful of any person giving them platform. But the thing is Matt wants to be a serious comedian not just a thirst trap
@@lazysnorlax3015 I can assure you that most comedians couldn't care less what the hell their fans do with their content when the bill collector arrives lol
If he has done that on purpose, I totally agree. If you see a comedian as a “one person company”, you wouldn’t want as a company to attract the wrong type of consumer. There are good clients for a company and bad clients, you want to attract the best clients most of the time. If he kept that audience, his fame and success would not only expire when he looks expire (ie getting old) but it also must suck to not be able to tell the jokes you want as a comedian
That's not what happened. 🦜
@@liamk2 This is a damning projection of your own psyche than it is anywhere close to an analysis of another living breathing human being. Stick to what you know, and keep it there, away from everyone else 🎯
I think the modern standards of conventional attractiveness are so artificial, most of the time when someone points out a super hot “out of this world” hot person, I can’t understand it because they don’t look human to me. Maybe it might be me being autistic, but I think “imperfections” or whatever is what makes people not go completely in the uncanny valley. Are some people beautiful and ethereal? Yes, but that’s including the things that stick out beyond what magazines show. I can’t understand wanting to be a doll.
i kinda get that, but i think as someone attracted to monsters im on like... a different plane of existence
There was actually a study that kind of supports how you feel - it showed that faces that were too symmetrical were perceived as uncanny or unattractive, so some amount of asymmetry is actually desirable and makes people attractive (search for: Asymmetry and human facial attractiveness: symmetry may not always be beautiful).
@@Man-ej6uvnot the flex u think it is homie
I completely agree! I don't find Matt Rife attractive because he really does fall into that uncanny valley for me. His lips and teeth are so strange looking to me that it detracts from whatever other traits of his I find beautiful.
I was talking to my boyfriend about this recently too; every celebrity/ influencer looks the same these days because they all get the same procedures done and it makes all of them less beautiful.
When you look at movie stars / models from the 90s, they all looked unique. Teeth especially! I think Patricia Arquette's little crooked teeth were so cute, same with Donald Faison (Turk from Scrubs). His teeth were a defining feature of his face and it made me so sad to look up recent pictures of him and see veneers.
Hey, I'm not autistic but I feel the same. Bearded big lumberjack? Nope. Beardy dadbod guy who's tall as a tree? Nope. Dude who's pretty enough to be a chick and skinny with noodle arms, glasses, and a weird nose? HAWT. Also he has to be appealing personality-wise or I will fall asleep.
People have different taste and that should be embraced; there's someone for everyone. It's so weird to idolize these uncanny creatures though.
As a unattractive person, this is just depressing.
relatable
Honestly, the idea that only attractive women get sexually harassed is not true at all. For women especially, how attractive or unattractive their looks were did not really stop them from being sexually harassed or worse. It's a toxic problematic idea that should really be dismantled.
I just saw a video of an attractive young white slim blue eyed blonde girl say that she applied to Harvard as a joke and got in, got a job she wasn’t qualified for, got offers for jobs, trips, and free opportunities and thought she was just lucky, people tried to point out it’s because she attractive she has the the world in her hands, basically she’s living life in easy mode! I was a young attractive girl and yes I could get any job I wanted, but I was SO lonely. Men would either completely stay away from me due to being intimidated by me or they would harass me for sex, women disliked me, my friends were jealous and made me feel bad about it and distanced themselves from me, and I could never tell who really liked me for me or because of how I looked. Now that I’m older and the hotness has waned it’s amazing that I still have poor confidence from being isolated and unsure of how people think of me.
Id honestly take this loneliness anytime if is the price of being attractive. Because even when you are attractive, there is at least one person or two that are there for you. That being said, I sympathize.
You could just had made the first move on people that you got to know enough not to be shallow or too insecure, you would surely be at least appreciated? Made friends that feel just as pretty as you? Or that are mature enough to be jealous and bitter about it? Pretty wasn’t your problem
Have you ever considered it's not just your looks your personality might also play a part. I know two very beautiful people everyone loves them they both have husbands and children and are humble people never even mention what they look like. I am what they class as beautiful also and believe me the people who don't like me do not not like me not because of my looks but more so because I'm very blunt. A few girls I've been friends with have been slayly nasty because they are competing with me, but as soon as I feel a competing vibe I move on nicely. Maybe stop blaming your looks and look within.
Tbh the best thing to do is make friends with people that are either equally or more attractive than you. At least as a woman. I also like to be friends with people who make more money than me for the same reason.
i also wanna say you can be attractive and a minority, so your experience is still marred by bigotry and gross comments. but if you're able bodied, cishet, perisex, white, and attractive... then yeah that's like... not EASY but so fucking lucky and privileged.
I don't mind dark humor, but the joke has to actually be funny. If your joke is offensive but really subpar, it's just offensive at that point.
It's still subjective at the end, the audience laughed, you didn't. Who is to say the joke wasn't funny.
The point is where the intention lies, he tried to pull off the joke and failed. He shouldn't be shamed and canceld for it
@@StillAwesome21agreed
@@StillAwesome21they laughed bcz hes good looking
No it’s just a joke that didn’t land as hard 😂
As a fellow mid girlie, it is interesting to sit back with slightly less bias (definitely still some) and watch people go: “either I am having a hard time, or you are having a hard time, but it can’t be both!!”
Two groups can have issues related to the same subject, simultaneously. Things are complex :(
This. Things are FAR more complex than this surface level video.
FACTS!!! But as an art kid, was taught that beauty isn't as important as what is conveyed in the right context. Eg. A Victoria's secrets model could be the ugliest girl in lets say a community that values bigger girls. But that doesn't mean that it's the end of the world. As long as she aligns to the values of that said community in different ways. People will always see the beauty that is within. :)
So, if you're an "ugly kid", or am "too pretty for your own good" just switch around a bit. You'll be amazed at what you can find. But generally: decent hygiene + kindness and empathy will not go wrong yah 😉 All the best!
The jaw surgery and implants and veneers helped him a ton. He didn't catch too many looks during his early Wild 'n Out days.
He's natural ..teeth improvement don't count. Men age better. Facts.
@@Davido50 lmfao what a gay simp
@@Davido50 Men are also painfully gullable.when it comes to plastic surgery. Facts
Handsome squidward
@@Davido50 men are just more gullible
I remember hearing from a Psychologist, Social-Scientist, or similar ilk say that the only time being attractive (especially for a woman) is detrimental is when they are on trial for a sex-related crime (like a Black Widow being on trial).
Yup there are actually more disadvantages to being an attractive woman
wait can you explain more? i've never heard of this :o i've only heard of people dismissing women's claims because they're "not attractive enough" for anyone to desire them
@@sugucide No, you misread what I said. A "Black Widow" is a classic profile of a female serial-killer: one that constantly remarries and subtlety kills her current husband so she can inherit wealth - especially through life-insurance. In sex-related cases where the accused is an attractive (female-)defendant; apparently the attractiveness works against them because the jury can easily see how her attractiveness seduced the victim so they end up disliking/distrusting her more.
@sugucide i guess its kinda a the skirt arguments, like what did you think gonna happen ?
And also i guess they will say that you flirt with anyone .
@@sugucide Oh, awesome possum. I wrote a whole paragraph-essay explaining what I meant in detail and I guess the YT Algorithm thought I should go ____ myself.
I’d trade my disadvantages for his. 😂
you cant
@@BOB-fd4lu A man can dream
It doesn't help that his attractiveness is purchased. He created his own "hell."
he had work done?
But there are so many celebrities richer than him who have had way worse outcomes from plastic surgery. At the very least it worked wonders for him
@@atharva-naiktrue but if he’s trying to become more attractive then he shouldn’t be complaining about how he’s attractive? It’s like if I said “ugh I hate red cars” and then went out of my way to spend money on a red car despite already having a perfectly fine car.
@@thabokgwele5268 his jaw
@@thabokgwele5268 I think he had his teeth fixed. Had he not he would have been the comedian with jacked teeth
As a pretty person, I promise there are very little disadvantages to being attractive. But the advantages aren’t as prevalent either. Like they don’t matter if you’re like me (socially inept) and don’t really talk to or see anyone ever. A hermit.
autism really does hard counter the whole attractive thing :/
It is a net positive. However, I think it varies between men and women. Attractiveness in women tends to have higher highs and lower lows compared to men
@@julianmateus7911 best and worst aspects pretty much. I agree
The only disadvantages I see is people might view more as something to look at than have anything important to say. Otherwise they're no downsides. Finding potential partners are easier, people giving special treatment and opportunities might arise based on your appearance
@@lazysnorlax3015 like I said, those good things aren’t suuuper prevalent. At least personally. I am autistic, so I think I have an added problem that often cancels out being pretty. Not entirely, of course. Especially with job interviews, those tend to do well for me.
It's very clear why the bias would be against same sex whether or not someone is also attracted to the same sex - it's about who your competition is. It's a known thing in some queer spaces that people can end up stuck between wanting someone or wanting to be that person, dealing with envy with the person they love. It's really obvious when you think about it
What does Lil nas x sing in montero? " want to f*ck those I envy" or something like that.
are we gonna ignore the fact that matt has obviously had some kind of plastic surgery? like come tf on, you think his comical chad-jaw spawned from magic powers?
This. I mean his old photos are out there and a plastic surgeon confirmed he did his chin and jaw.
That's a good point, lol. I wonder if this information would influence men to get plastic surgery like how women are influenced by Kim K..
@@t.7124 True. A lot of guys already try out unhealthy lifestyles (exercise, diets, steroids and bogus supplements, etc.) to try to be more attractive. It's interesting that plastic surgery has more of a stigma attached, probably because it's usually stereotyped as a "feminine" thing (even though celebrities of both genders regularly use it).
@@julias.6658
Exercise and diet is unhealthy?
@@modie84 Usually, no. But things like carnivore diets, overextending yourself, using exercise as your only coping mechanism, etc. can be very unhealthy.
i mean i genuinely do think matt rife specifically is a bad example of the disadvantages of being attractive because like.... none of his jokes are funny. all the material i've seen is just. weirdly sexist. the joke is just haha. sexism. i don't think it matters if stand up comedy is already sexist because other people being sexist isn't funny either. not really saying this as someone who gets offended by these jokes either. it's just not funny.
also using success as a measure of talent doesn't really work when people WILL just care about people who are hot and pay to see them in person. nash grier went on a tour and his act was literally just that he's hot and thousands if not millions of teenage girls went to see him. matt rife hasn't made even one funny joke in his entire career. why is it so hard to believe his fans care about his face and not his comedy? and like. honestly even just ignoring all my personal feelings on whether i think matt rife is funny or not, you aren't exactly doing good science by assuming he must be talented just because he's successful when one of the things you talk about is how attractive people get unfair advantages and find it easier to find success in the first place.
You might not think it's funny but hundreds of thousands of others do. The reason he got this far is because a sizable amount of people DO think his jokes are funny. And a sizable portion of them are women too. It's not a bad example just because you don't like it. The majority just doesn't agree with you.
@@canadianturtle7240 that speaks more to the commonality of sexism than anything else.
@@canadianturtle7240 people liking sexism doesn't make refusing to make a joke funny
@@666kittycat666I would say that says more about Matt Rife's ability to make the joke than the commonality of sexism. The average "common" person would not be able to make these jokes because they do not possess the qualities of Matt (charisma, good looks, comedic timing, etc.). If the average person could get a way with making these jokes in a workplace, school, setting, then yes you'd have an argument, but that's not what this is. Especially when other women co-sign his jokes and play along with him
@@canadianturtle7240 I thought they did all the time. The unfunny jokes were ever only funny within groups that don't notice the -isms in the premise of the jokes themselves.
Gay haha? She has a dick haha?
I (a guy) actually liked a lot of his online shorts standup, until I saw some of his longer interviews I realized as a person person he is an entitled terrible person which clouds any appreciation of him. Benign violation theory to humor can probably explain this.
That's the first time I've seen the 'offending' joke, and you're right, it's not that offensive by comedy standards. It's a solid joke, but I also think his delivery of it wasn't that great. Maybe seeing it out of context isn't fair, but for me, it didn't come across as obviously ironic and cheeky. Someone like Jimmy Carr is regularly able to get rooms of women laugh at deeply misogynistic material. But then he's been doing it a lot longer, and perhaps his audience know what to expect a bit more. But I also think there's something about the delivery too.
I've also heard comedians talk similarly about people being giving TV slots before they've sufficiently worked on their comedy skills to really crush it. They might have written a great routine, but aren't quite there with the timing and performance yet. And that's something that could definitely happen if your career is being accelerated by your good looks and social media fame. You often see a similar thing happen when you get a comedian who gets famous on the back of one of those Got Talent programmes. Having said that, there are a few 'overnight' successes from social media that absolutely smash it when they get on TV.
Delivery is everything. As the great George Carlin once said, "You can say the worst of things as long as they're not said cold." Unfortunately the delivery on this one was a bit too chilly.
Matt Rife had surgical help to achieve his current face; it’s not natural blessed genetics.
He has implants in his jaw and mid-face, and had buccal fat removal. If you look at pictures of him a few years ago you’ll easily see his face was much flatter and his jaw not as square.
This also the reason behind why he got so hopping mad at the plastic surgeon who made a harmless joke about him being ‘a client’ (I forget the exact joke but it’s easy to find) Matt Rife put an angry threatening comment on the joke referencing HIPAA and the privacy his medical files, which attracted a lot of negative attention. The surgeon had a small following, but Matt’s stupidity earned him a Streisand effect 😂 someone, especially a comic, who has not had plastic surgery would have just laughed at the joke and found it harmless. the fact that he was SO mad at the joke really outed him!
No I think the surgeon was capping. Matt was living paycheck to paycheck so no way he had money for surgery, veneers maybe. The fact is that that these plastic surgeons on tiktok are D1 haters who make videos for clout and many people bought into the lie becuase they’re miserable haters and want to believe that the person that they hate is fraudulent in some way and that their attractiveness isn’t “natural” whatever that means.
I would get mad too if some random clout chasing doctor and some faceless haters kept saying I got plastic surgery when I didn’t. I’m pretty sure every attractive person has gotten the makeup/plastic surgery accusation from people. Even I got it and I’m still a teenager. Never underestimate the jealousy of the avg person
i think the reason why his alleged plastic surgery was not mentioned in this video is because that's not the point she wanted to come across. he's _currently_ conventionally attractive, so she uses him as an example for the video's topic, but yeah.
@@bharatcarballo5144she's probably clueless about it and like all his female fans thinks he was born the way he looks😂
i think a lot of veteran comedians say they approve of his comedy is cuz they dont wanna seem like a hater and get attacked by the mob. his crowdwork is above average but his jokes are just okay, nothing special. mark normand is 10x funnier but no one really knows about him compared to rife. looks definitely is the reason for his huge success more than anything else.
Objectively, yes. Personality? No.
Very unique exploration and topic. Thanks for putting this together and exploring it in such a thoughtful way.
My problem is the "joke" was just exactly how abusers think. It's how they justify they're abuse, and convince their victims that they"deserve" it. Things are funny because we find a kernel of truth in it. So if you find that "joke" funny, you think it's a little bit true that women deserve to be beaten, and that DV victims should be ashamed and hide the signs off their abuse in case it makes other people uncomfortable.
Nah bruh, lots of jokes are like this. It's for shock value.
If any Dave Chappelle or anyone of his ilk said it, no one would bat an eye. Matt just has a reputation for being soft so people got mad
What gets me is that it could have been a moment of reflection within society to be like, "Huh, maybe I should look at certain things and situations differently, and take action" but, folks just refused to go deeper, and that resulted in a bunch of superficial backlash.
@@okeneWhen people are surprised by something safe, their reaction will be laughter.
When people are surprised by something unsafe, their response will be fight or flight.
You cannot convince women to laugh at a red flag joke 🚩
exactly
@@okene Comedy isn't for everybody and I'm willing to bet most of the women who follow him, were never comedy fans, so when says something "offensive", they go nuts.
Stand-up has always pushed socio-political boundaries. Contraversial topics and jokes have always been good with crowds.
What got me with the Matt Rife thing was just how much he defended his actions.
I feel like a professional would have released a statement about not intending to offend domestic violence victims and just exclude the joke from his next routine.
What he did, basically dying on the hill of the joke- is what really caught people’s attention and made them really mad.
Apologizing for a few words opens the door to being put on trial again in the future at any time the mob desires. I don't even watch Rife that much, but doubling down was the best decision, because at the end of the day its a joke and he has no obligation to apologize. To anyone offended by Rife: 1. You can stop watching him at any time 2. Look into Joey Diaz.
@theKevatron People expect comedians to be hyper contraversial. The number of people that defended Dave Chapel is proof of that.
What I mean by apology is something like a single tweet that goes, "I said X, and people thought I meant Y. I don't support Y because I said X."
Easy.
It's not that people don't like him. It's when people with a large reach begin to ignore what their words can mean to vulnerable groups that bothers people.
He doubled down with another offensive joke
@@franjkav telling people to buy a helmet is offensive?
@StillAwesome21 Linking to a page to buy helmets for children with special needs is clearly a jab basically saying "if you found that joke offensive, you're mentally disabled". He doubled down on an old timey misogynist joke with an even lazier ableist joke. To me, it just reads like he was trying to piss people off as much as possible after the initial reaction to his special. That way he maximizes the backlash during his "cancellation" so that when he comes back, he can hit the "I'm canceled" button as much as he feels like to appeal to the anti-PC crowd. I mean, he's doing a career in comedy, so he's probably aware that he's in the market of pissing certain people off.
Though to me, those two jokes in particular read like the most boring and gauche "offensive jokes" you could come up with. Like, saying something misogynist or ableist isn't "pushing the boundaries" because both of those things are already so strongly reinforced by our society already. It's not new, it's not insightful, it's the same shit you can hear in any damn 4chan board. You can get on people's nerves in a lot of ways, like waving your hand in front of their face, insulting their mother, or making fun of someone for something they have no control over. Being "provocative" doesn't always indicate you're actually funny, mainly you know how to hit people's buttons. Comedy can involve hitting people's buttons or even being cruel sometimes, but inducing outrage like how Rife did it here is less about making people laugh and more about baiting people into giving you as much attention as possible so you can hopefully gain more notoriety from it.
He aint all that in either attractiveness or comedic talent, just not my cup of tea or piss or whatever it is people drink. Mattaeo Lane now WHEW!
Matteo is so cute 🥺❤
Thats yo opinion.
Donna! Don't call yourself mid. You're premium.
premium in the lower end, right !
so is she a product? a service maybe?
Agreed 😊
naah. she mid.
She is mid. It's fine to be realistic
Interesting that you didn’t address all the cosmetic work he’s had done to look as conventionally attractive as he does. From the closing of his gap to the work he’s had on his jaw for a symmetrical appearance/face. But I guess that’s not the angle of the video.
Do you think women would care?
@@jordan42068 yes we would through this comment i learned he had work done, so it makes the little compassion i had for him go, he hates women wanted beauty priviledge then complain...he has an unsufferable personality... if a woman get her boobs done then complain of the attention by showing them everywhere it looks like this to me now...if its his natural beauty then i have compassion because no one should be objectified for their natural body, but this...
Symmetrical face =/= attractive, MatPat has looked into it on style theory
I've seen it. He doesn't say it doesn't equal attractiveness. He says it's not the be all end all of attractiveness and that there are many components to being attractive, which still lines up with the literature. His video more argues that the Tik Tok filter (shows a mirror image of people's faces, making them more symmetrical) makes people unattractive. This makes sense because the filter isn't realistic and creates an uncanny valley effect. No one is an exact mirror image of their right/left side of their face .
@@DonnaIRL I do feel I have a ‘good side’ and it can make me selfconsious
Yall citing MatPat for this lol
Yup, to find attractive face we need to go deeper on blackpill, but that's depressing
I'm just surprised that not many people were discussing his 5-10 minute bit toward the end of the special that consisted of him making a flight attendant's job more difficult then cyberbullying a woman online for her weight (granted, she had started the Twitter squabble but as a celebrity it's generally seen as bad form to punch down even if provoked)
NGL, I didn’t make it that far
it's seen as celebrities punching down because people don't view celebrities as human
For 40 years I've been told I'm "really handsome" and "cute" and once in a while "hot." And for those 40 years I wondered why I've had almost zero close male friends. Or why women seemed to enjoy humiliating me when they turned me down... only to wander back a few years later and ask me out. The only advantage seems to be that gorgeous women really seem to want my attention.
Yep they want to try to humble you because they think every girl likes you.
Whats confusing to me is that there are several comedians I find more attractive than him but they just do their comedy without making it a big thing
It is crazy cause its true the more physically attractive you are the more you can get away with. What's even crazier is everyone knows that to be true and its still true. Shallowness is one of those things that seems so natural in people that it sometimes makes you question how evil it actually is. And its one of those qualities in a person that simply wont go away by them realizing it.
Lol Dane Cook. That explains it a bit.
@@wabdihhe was Matt Rife for the MySpace generation
The one time I watched Dane Cook he started "humping" the stage he was performing on. That was enough for me.
I was average, then pretty hot, then average again and now I'm ugly. Definitely experienced the advantages and disadvantages in all stages. When I was hot, dating was so hard because men I were attracted to would feel like I messing with them like what's the catch? Or that I was unapproachable because I was hot. Now that I'm ugly I'm basically invisible. When I was average, it was best. Matt Rife is absurdly attractive. Maybe because I was once in his shoes, lookswise, I don't judge his comedy that way. I find him to be genuinely funny. He reminds me of all the HBO comedy specials of the 80s and 90s of my youth that were unapologetically offensive. It's apparent that he does put effort into his appearance. He was blessed with the face, but he puts in a fuck ton of effort to maintain the body that matches. No one gives the guy credit for that.
He’s actually had quite a bit of cosmetic work done on his face, so I wouldn’t necessarily say he was naturally blessed. Jaw and cheek implants, buccal fat removal, and perhaps more. If you look up the before and after pictures it’s quite dramatic.
I laughed at how every person who made a tiktok or TH-cam video about how’s he’s not funny (he’s not very), still somehow managed to be less funny themselves despite acting like the rulers of comedy
what ive noticed from roast battle, is people with obvious flaws, can prepare a better defense, because they know what their opponent is going to attack. normal, or attractive people are more prone to being caught off guard.
As someone who has been described and declared as attractive by others - I myself think I’m super average - I can tell you a disadvantage is the unwanted goddamn attention. People try to justify me being literally harassed with “well when you get old soon, you will wish people turned to look at you”
Uhhh nnnno.
I don’t ask for attention. I literally dress below average to keep people from bothering me.
Ignoring people or coming off as very soulless as possible is the only thing that spares me.
Another thing is having to prove that I’m decent at doing something. People think that since I’m attractive there’s no way I can have a skill of some sort because all I do is care about my looks.
I do nothing to myself. My face has a ton of spots and so do other areas of my skin. I don’t do any crazy personal care.
So as an “attractive” person people don’t immediately assume I’m well-versed and experienced at what I do.
Hon, I'm sorry to break it to you, but you're about as average as they come.
This is true. I remember when people people started saying that Kumail Nanjiani's comedic ability got reduced just because he got jacked up for a superhero movie role. They found the same person to be comedic when they were ugly but not so much when they became conventionally attractive.
At the end of the day people are JEALOUS. I wish more people would admit it
disadvantage of not being funny more like
Another disadvantage of being attractive is you can't make certain jokes without looking narcissistic. For example, let's say I - an ugly man with 0 girls - just got a new perfume. I can make a statement like, “Just one spray of this and all the girls at the party will fight for my number” and it would be received as funny and humorous.
Meanwhile if a hot guy who is known for being a player said the same thing it comes off as egotistical and might get remarks as “Uhh he's so full of himself”
I think it comes down to the delivery
Oh boo hoo lmao
I don’t really care that much about what people think of me if I think a joke is funny I’ll say it
@@emperorhideyoshi3223 Thats how I would justify P*do and Racist jokes 💀
The dude just looks healthy and has a good life. Sad to see that people can't even manage to do that these days.
I first say Matt Rife maybe 6 months ago on a few random clips, and all the jokes i saw were of him poking fun at himself for being hot. But when I looked in the comments, I didnt see people thristing over him. Or hating home. Morso cringing about how much he referred to his own physical attractiveness. I didnt see anythint else qbout him until the Netflix special. I didnt realize people had so many hard opinions about him.
They didn't he said a joke that offended his largely female audience and they didn't like it. Most people think he's okay, and that is it. If he wasn't attractive women wouldn't constantly tell him that and fawn over him online.
What about the paradox of super attractive people (esp women) in highly technical, intellectual, professional positions being deemed incompetent or looked down upon? Rife has had a hard time in comedy but imagine the hate if he or Alix Earle were a tech CEO.
Nah attarctrive men in those positions do well. Attractive women are the ones who have it hard there.
that never happens. women might be looked down upon for being women, but the attractive ones will definitely be favored.
This is 100% true. I work for a global company and some of my co-workers from Europe and Brazil are very attractive. What people say to them to their face is positive, but they say some really demeaning things about them behind their back. The idea that they earned their positions solely based on how they look is still very real in 2024.
the special needs helmet twitter link was absolutely hilarious
I was actually at the filming of this special, and going into it I had watched some of his hour long standups, not just his short crowdworking clips from Instagram/Tiktok. I think the issue with it was the fact that the "dark" jokes just weren't funny.... like alot of his joke kinda fell flat and I came away being disappointed. I honestly had to rewatch the first part to remember the joke they were referring to but regardless, it just wasn't a good special. It's like he tried so hard to attract men that he lost what made him unique and resorted to "low blows". I also think in the past he's been able to walk this line of being funny without being cruel so this special felt more "shocking" than it would've coming from another comedian.
Great to hear from someone that was at the taping
How were they low blows ?
Beauty isn’t universal, I don’t like men with feminine traits like this, he isn’t tall, but most of all, I prefer the ones who don’t claim they’re so attractive. You nailed it! I love your approach and personality, just discovered you, I subscribe, happy I found you!
I really don't like these types of videos, especially as someone who grew up on the uglier side. No matter what anyone says, the "Halo effect" and "Horn effect" IS real. The disadvantages of being attractive is nowhere near the burden of loneliness that ugliness brings. People assume the worst out of you without even getting to know you, and the scary thing is it's subconscious: People don't even realize they're treating you badly or giving you dirty looks, it's almost like a natural reaction to your presence. Once I grew older and started to become more attractive, I can tell you there's a WORLD of difference. So anytime I see someone complain about being too attractive, my initial reaction is "boo hoo"
Honestly, the idea that only attractive women get sexually harassed is not true at all. For women especially, how attractive or unattractive their looks were did not really stop them from being sexually harassed or worse. It's a toxic problematic idea that should really be dismantled.
I really don’t think he is attractive
why not? from a guy's or a girl's perspective?
@@zeratultemplar6604 as a woman... he just looks like any 20something guy youd see on the subway. hes just not interesting.
@@SD-zz4ovI agree. He’s very blah
Yup, I will die on this hill, the internet will not convince me Matt Rife is attractive. Mr. Handsome Squidward is a butterface.
@@SD-zz4ov y'all just have Tiktok brain. Female version of looking at Margot Robbie and going "she's mid".
When someone says or does something unusually stupid, I always say, "You're _so_ pretty!"
You know who's way hotter than Matt Rife? Anthony Jeselnik. His hotness is effortless.
Being mad at someone for how much better they look than you sounds crazy to me lmao
Another banger video, Donna. Thank you as always!!!
Rife has some quick-witted crowd work. Other than that, I 'd say his comedy is just okay. It's good enough to make money, but not great enough to be legendary. He is being carried by the fan-girling effect, no doubt. There aren't any female comedians that have men fawning over them in droves, so a close example I can think of is Livvy Dunne. She's a college gymnast who has a massive social media following, to the point that hundreds of young men are showing up regularly to her events. They are even disruptive at times. Objectively, she's a decent gymnast, but not considered an Olympic or world level contender. Her popularity is driven by her attractiveness, not her skill. Good-looking people just have it easier than the rest of us.
I'm sure some people were offended by the joke itself, but imho the actually offensive thing was when he said he wrote his special "for the boys". I've never been a fan of his (he's not been on my radar at all tbh) but I've had that experience of being part of a fan community that's openly rejected by the creators of the thing we're a fan of. It really sucks.
I respect an artist who wants to take their career in a different direction, one that they know will move them away from the fan base that gave them their start. I respect that! It takes strength as an artist to move away from what's safe and working. But you can do that while still appreciating the people who supported you enough to give you your start.
His face is such a strange phenomenon to me, because... he looks fine, even good, when he's on stage, or sitting in an interview. But as soon as I see a photograph of him, he looks like a really offputting, deformed ken-doll?? But both are him, during the same period of time. My brain is so confused.
lol i have met people like that before. he might look like a deformed ken doll because .. i just read that he had chin and cheek implants!!?
When someone is on a stage or being interviewed is signaled as an important person, being the center of attention and whatnot, our oonga oonga brain goes "durr durr the chieftain, durr durr shaman of the tribe". I think that's it. That being said I think the guy is handsome either way, perhaps not as photogenic as he could be but the depressing thing is that even a bad photo of a handsome dude would be better than a good photo of mine.
Thank You Donna!!!! Enjoying your videos.
No, his personality and him always talking about his looks makes him very unattractive to me. I would use him for his money and looks and hope he just wouldn’t speak too much. Just be quiet and look pretty
He is objectively attractive though. But yes. I'd even add the fact that he did crazy things to his face to be even more in line with todays standards (women are globally 10 times harsher)
@@SquallSZ yes, men are much less picky. And I don’t know what he had done.. some surgeons say he did have jaw implants and others don’t!
His disadvantage isn’t that he’s “hot” his disadvantage is that he’s stupid and unlikable, so his looks is really all he has, and he hates it, but doesn’t work on himself, rather becomes more annoying.
You would use him for his money? Good Lord. I’m glad I’m a gay man. Some women are vile
@@anaalicia5029 how can they not know? Isn't it their job?
great presentation Donna, I loved your background when you were narrating. keep it up. cheers
He has surgery face
Yes the comedian living paycheck to paycheck before he blew up had money for surgery. Look inward and ask why you're a hater
@@nile7999He has gotten a jaw implant. Just google it.
@@nile7999PHOTOS ARE OUT THERE. Do some research Google is free.
@@nile7999bro he literally had fillers done😂
@@nile7999stop being stupid and just do research
Thank you for this content. It was really interesting. I did not even think of him being attractive until I saw some of the shots in this video. Good for him.
I’m too gay to find the humor in any of his jokes, let alone the straight comedy at large that apparently inspires him
Attractive people gain the praise/criticism from people around them, and then it becomes liked/disliked, they make it apart of their personality (more or less) because it lives in the back of their head. And so attractive people are either the likable attractive people or the dislikable attractive people. That's for them but everyone is has that kind of issue I'd say, pros and cons to their traits.
I think gay men put a higher emphasis on looking good, so when a man is unattractive, we typically assume he is a slouch in other regards. We can’t imagine letting our appearance slide.
Attractive women have so much power. I think we can plainly see this because we are outsiders in their dynamic with men. So we don’t assume good looking women are necessarily great people.
aka shallowness
Wow, what an awesome and unbiased video!! I loved the points you made, I've seen many video essays critizicing Matt Rife but this is by far the best.
Yooo, new video dropped. Let's go!
As someone who grew up a 4, but dedicated years to improving my physique, face, confidence, charisma etc. and is now a solid 8, I can confirm that the most depressing thing in life is spending thousands of hours making an incredible transformation, only to somehow still get the same results.
And the part @17:50 is amazing. She says that everyone wants to get with the most genetically desirable (most attractive) person, and therefore glorifies the traits in their own gender that best reflects themselves. This is EXACTLY what the fat acceptance movement does. They've convinced overweight girls that they're actually 10's and deserve a 10/10 man.
I mean, she says the woman @19:43 is "medium" in physical attractiveness. No. She's not medium. A 2 isn't medium lol.
In a world where men can work hard to become as attractive as possible, yet still get rejected, meanwhile severely overweight women think they're hot and deserve a perfect man, we're in massive trouble. Pun intended.
A group of guys should just go to one of his comedy shows and sit at the front row with a straight bored face the entire show.🤣
@@hawpsy_6587 Funny enough, not long after making that comment a group of people actually did that to someone and it was hilarious.
Hiring actors NOT to Laugh at a Comedy Show
@@hawpsy_6587 Can't post links in youtube but the title was on a previous comment.
When you’re content about yourself due to the consensus of being accepted by others because you’re attractive everything becomes easier
I don't find this guy attractive at all, in certain shots his face looks extremely artificial. But even by the standards of conventional/universal attractiveness I just don't see it
Its because he did stuff to his face recently. (But if this guy is not attractive, then I just discovered im à troll. !)
He looked a lil trans to me at first glance. If you search for his older photos, you can definitely tell he did something to his face.
@@7twenty8kind of weird to conflate plastic surgery and trans people. I'm 40, ftm and I've never had surgery
@@7twenty8 youre a weirdo
This is so on point. I’ve often lamented that because I’m not attractive. I still remember interviewing for a job when the recruiter mentioned I look like Woody Allen. Didn’t get the job, and that person probably never realized how I’m haunted by that comment. There are so many people in the world. I just get to be one them😊
... We just going to ignore that Rife was also a 6/10 before he got veneers, cheek filler, fat reduction on his cheeks, and a chin implant a couple years after he started Wild'n out?
cheek filler?? chin implant? are you kidding me? lolllllllllll
@@SueP-jg9vxlmao he didn’t get surgery it’s just some salty ass plastic surgeon on tiktok who claims every trendy person got surgery
@@emperorhideyoshi3223 yea come to think of it, a lot of the videos i see from this guy....are BS. everyone raves about him and loves him but he keeps saying people had all this surgery when it is very clear they did not, and its just different contouring
@@SueP-jg9vxok lil bro
I really love your take on how Matt Rife got cancelled because his shows were full of internet people instead of traditional comedy people. I don't agree with everything you say, but you tend to make some REALLY damn good points.
Disadvantage and attractive are two words that don't belong in the same sentence.
True
I'm bi, and for me finding someone extremely attractive or visually appealing doesn't make me want them sexually at all, in fact, it's very weird that I start to feel even more insecure around them if they compliment me or rate my attractiveness more nicely. I mostly develop a liking for any person over a longer period of time which includes knowing them and spending quality time, lastly I think majority of the individuals are average, if some say ur attractive while others just say meh then ur average, we should just digest that, cause out of 8.1 billion people at least a few billion find you attractive.
It's okay, my girlfriend said I'm a very handsome man! 😲
I think the positive bias effect is probably even more pronounced with attractive women. Like with guys it definitely exists, but with women it’s probably almost unquantifiable
I can absolutely recognize that attractive people have their own disadvantages by default through their attractiveness. I'm sure it's crushing to know that people are more interested in your looks than your craft. I can imagine the pressure that one is under to live up to the lofty expectations of their audience because of they way they're perceived. But let's be fuckin' for real: being attractive, while not a perfect life, is way better than being unattractive. While I can acknowledge the disadvantages of being attractive, I'm not going to pretend as though both are equally difficult dispositions. I guarantee if someone like Matt Rife had the choice to look like himself, or look like me, he would DEFINITELY choose to look like himself. Being attractive is just fuckin' better. It's hardly even a conversation.
That being said: pretty people are still people. Their struggles are worth recognizing and addressing just as much as anyone else's. We should support people when they're going through a hard time and try to raise them up (provided they aren't horrible people who do horrible things). I do want everyone to end up happy and healthy and safe. But unless this world changes, I'm gonna continue to believe that being attractive is better than being unattractive.
Honestly, I've come to accept and embrace the fact that I'm a mid/average looking guy. I already treasure my alone time as it is, so usually being overlooked or not being hounded by people is already to my benefit. Yes, there are moments that shadow of not being attractive enough for people comes through at times but that's normal to feel at times. Comparison is the thief of joy. I'm just doing me and staying in my lane.
How is this man attractive ??? If he is attractive than Erling Halland is divine. Cristiano Ronaldo makes him look like the hunchback of Notre Dame.
Hunchback is more visually interesting
Are you blind?
This man 9/10 looks better than all your exes and current partner if you have one
really sober and thorough video I subscribed :)
Donna you are absolutely stunning and I need you to realize that
uh...
she should not judge herself may be?
Sad how she didn’t even reply to this😂😂💔
People consider me attractive and it does have a big impact on the way im perceived. People in general are very nice to me (although i am also very nice to everyone i meet). Where i notice a possible "disadvantage" is when im out in social settings like a bar or a party. 8 or 9 out of 10 of the men there will say something to me, make eye contact with me, something. While women can tend to be more standoffish until we get to talking. Ive always had a harder time connecting with women instantly vs men, and i never thought the way i looked would have anything to do with that. Also in theblong term i become much closer to my female friends and stay friends much longer than with men who tend to come and go much much more.
Shoutout to the mids (5-6ers)! We be a friendly bunch of cool cats 😎
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Um well from a personal standpoint great video. People often do perceive attractive people as having it together and being lucky, not looked as much for skill level. But in that it is a double edged sword; people tend to get more intimidated by you as an individual, especially if your skills out shine looks. At my rap performances I'm one of the most unique and skilled in the room. I get hatred from most men rather than women but I touch on straight gutter material. Aside from the dream aspect, there's a target on your back. People tend to try the pretty boy because they think he can't fight. People tend to violate space to ego check and test the individual. Everywhere you go it's almost a competition, you stand out... And no if you're attractive you don't get compliments often people really size you up and take your existence personal. Or tend to veer away from you because "hey they might have to step their game up". But we all have our foes to fight in life
He once talked about how he is older than his deceased father. That there is deeper than most of his audience combined. He includes handicap people in his crowd work and makes fun of them like they were the same as everyone else. That there is a person of substance.
Awesome video. Super interesting analysis. Great way to kick off my day. Keep up the good work👍
I never watched Matt Rife due to his popularity with primarily women & I don't like guys who are too popular with the ladies.. But I didn't realize it could be just as bad for men as it is for women when it comes to attractiveness. I always thought hot guys had it so easy bc they can get all the ladies! But I guess I can't make assumptions.
As an attractive woman, I've experienced jealousy from other females my entire life. Since childhood I've had girls target me and be mean to me for no reason even though I thought we were friends and that we cared about one another. I lacked social skills and was insecure which made it even worse b/c I didn't know how to stand up for myself. So I think being attractive isn't for the faint of heart. I feel like you have to be even more socially aware than if you're average looking to protect yourself and not unintentionally offend ppl. I've had a life filled with trauma and tragedy. I've had a lot of sociopathic ppl (men and women) come into my life and try to destroy me & I didn't understand why! Men hated me and were jealous if I wasn't attracted to them, women hated me just b/c. I even had grown women attack me when I was just a teenager. It amazes me the shit I've had to go through.
Honestly, life is fucking hard for all of us. It's hard if you're attractive, average, or unattractive, just in different ways.
Be happy, you weren't ugly.
Love your videos. Always a nice suprise when it pops up on my yt 🙌
Nah, attractive people have it way easier. Any complaints/problems they have are petty contrivances.
I think attractive people who don’t have much to offer tend to think their attractiveness is the reason they aren’t taken seriously, when in reality anyone who looks unconventional will struggle to be taken seriously regardless of their resume or talents. If Matt Rife had more to offer than dumb humor and good looks, he would be taken seriously.
Overall the advantages of being attractive outweigh the disadvantages FOR SURE
Well said, it's really that simple.
As a male, I’ve always thought Matt was funny. I honestly didn't know most of his fans were female.
Let's not forget that beauty is different in each culture same with comedy.
I'm french i never find him attractive and the sketches that i saw of him were not funny to me. But i don't know if it's representative of his humour. In almost of All the sketches that i saw of him he was always trying to flirt with someone of his audience and why note one times but several times in multiple sketches...!!! I just thought this guys was weird.
You could do more research, instead of telling us about your confirmation bias.
@StillAwesome21 why would i do more research? In the end, the videos that i saw of him were the videos that himself put for communication purposes, so in the end, obviously, i'm gonna think that's representative of his work..and because its not my humor I just didn't watch him simply as that.
And now is in a controversy..ok, but his humour was never my thing anyway.
A woman being attractive is completely completely different from a man being attractive. Look around, at the end of the day, looks don’t matter as much as you think. Confidence is key, and a personality. Typically unattractive dudes have this as they have too put in effort, for attraction men they may not develop these skills. Leading them too be alone. More so than anyone else.
What are you talking about? I wasn't hired by Goldman Sachs because my resume was impressive. Some girl in HR thought I was hot enough in interviews to pass me along for recommendation.
It’s so weird how attractiveness works sometimes too, not many women in my family would go crazy for a Matt Rife, in their eyes he’s just some skinny white boy but a young Morris Chestnut would be a different story lol. “Pretty privilege” or whatever they call it is hard for me to really believe in. It’s just too subjective that I’m glad I don’t keep myself up at night wondering if I’m a 6 or not. Who cares? You’re a 6 in your home state, a 3 in LA and a 10 in the slums so it doesn’t even matter when it comes down to it.
He's far from skinny lol
Pretty Privilidge is scientifically proven... Doesn't really matter if you belive in it or not. It's like not believing in snails.
When people say looks don't matter, of course they do, they just don't want to tell you the truth and they make you think you got a chance.
I never knew so many people found this guy attractive…?
He looks like a dorky kids who's dressing up.
dave chappelle - okay influence
dane cook - bad influence
thats all we needed to hear