If base from price of Mi 9 and Mi 9T pro compared with Chinese price here in Malaysia roughly the price of Mi 10 pro is around RM3199/3299($750).I really hoping its still the same if not Xiaomi is screwed
same here! more than this Oneplus promised not to jump over 1000$ barrier, which is cool. Oneplus have the advantage of a better display, same SD 865 and all flagship specs, and if the camera is good, I'm definitely going for it!
Same here. Really wanted to buy Mi 10 Pro but after the price announcement I'm waiting for OnePlus 8. That should be also a good phone with much better software than Xiaomi. I hope the price is right.
If I was to buy this phone, I'd go for the China version, wait the allotted time to unlock the bootloader, install TWRP then Magisk and then flash Xiaomi EU ROM. Doing this, you would end up with an even better version than the Global ROM. Xiaomi EU ROM is debloated, optimized and you'd have all the language support needed
But you won't have the European lte bands. In Germany the Chinese version is basically useless, because you can hardly use lte on it. Changing loader and Rom does not change the lte bands.
@@muuhnkin4611 That's true but I have a China version of Mi Max 3 and have Xiaomi EU on that and it works fine for me in the UK....some lte bands are missing but on three network, it's fine
@@jasong1033 missing band 20 would mean dropping from 95% net coverage to about 40%. So no connection for more than half of the country Here in Germany, other bands than 20 are mostly used in cities, in rural areas you would have basically no network without lte band 20.
2 things. Thats way too much money in Europe considering Xiaomi software and camera optimization have a long way to go (they are getting better every year). Flashing the global rom does NOT give you the missing 4G/LTE frequencies that is optimal for use in several European countries..
Hey Frankie, something to consider. Those of us in the USA have to be mindful for the lte band support. The global version is actually missing band 4g- 12 / 17 & 5g n41 that the China rom has. Buying a global rom version would leave me with a phone that doesn't have a primary 4g band and no 5g support.
Two other important problems with chinese versions (I had these with my mi8) there is no in app purchase (was a problem for my drone app, I could not get some extra features) and you can not use your phone to pay. The other problem with flashing your phone would be that you can not lock your bootloader and secured applications will not work for example bank applications. I also heard you could not stream more than 480P netflix videos with the unlocked bootloader.
NOTE: For potential cheap xiaomi phone buyers A xiaomi phone with china rom may cost slightly cheaper than the global version, do note that some apps may not work properly or have notification delays due to the lack of Google services integrated within the rom. You'll have to unlock the bootloader and flash the global rom, unlike oneplus which is more user friendly without bl unlock. In addition, after flashing the rom, some apps may still not work properly as it requires your system to pass safetynet because it detects that your bootloader is unlocked. You'll then have to root your device and flash magisk in order to pass safetynet. If you've being following the rooting scene for a while, it was noted by magisk dev john wu that Google may patch safety net in the near future which might permanently break the functionality of hiding your bootloader. Basically, passing safety net is a cat and mouse game with Google and you'll constantly need to update to the latest version of magisk. If you like xiaomi phones and don't want to give yourself a hard time, do yourself a favor by just buying the global rom version instead as it works right out of the box although it may cost more. Saving a couple of hundred bucks isn't worth it imo when you have to go through the tedious process of tweaking the china rom ver to work internationally. I learned this the hard way a year ago.
Agreed Mohammad! The more time I think about it I do feel they got the European pricing wrong. It’s ok to price phones at this level, but to make such a big jump year on year was probably not a good idea. Sales will reflect this unfortunately. All the best my friend!
I was honestly thinking about buying the Mi 10 Pro this year but the first second i Saw the price I'm like: No fricking way.. It is a beautiful phone with great specs but not a 1000 euro nice phone..
@@FrankieTech there Will absolutely be a reason why it's priced that high but most 2020 phones are going to be much more expensive and a big reason I believe that's is of is the 865 plus the 5G modem is just to expensive to make for the moment and that's why it cost so much.. I hope it's something like that because if they only bumped up the price that extremely without any REAL good reason then they have lost their ways..
@@exx0dus exactly because of the world problems they should have kept it lower. People struggle paying the rent now and don't think about paying for a chinese brand phone that nobody knows about in Europe 1000€. Really not the right time to try to rip off people.
@@LnZ_Blu Yeah the third party sellers are still pricing it way over $705. I haven't come close to seeing that price outside of China yet. Redmi needs to get this under control or they are going to lose a lot of customers to Oneplus or Realme.
Good one Jose...I'm.waiting for mi 10 pro launch in India..If its pirce would be around one plus 8 pro..I would definitely buy mi 10 pro ..by the way It's a strong contender against S 20 ulta..May be equal or even better than ultra
I accidentally bought the Chinese version of the Mi Max 3 with a buggy beta ROM on it, so I had to flash the China ROM onto it, set it to English and side-load Google services onto the phone along with a Roman keyboard. I am suprised about how stable the China ROM has been and how fast I got new updates. I never encountered a single bug in the two years that I've had the phone. My brother has the global version and we found out something interesting. Video quality on the Chinese ROM is way better than on the global version! If there are going to be 300 Euro price differences between Chinese and global versions of Xiaomi phones, then I don't mind using the Chinese versions. You can simply set the language to English, uninstall any Chinese bloat, side-load Google services and install a Roman keyboard.
Europe has different regulations for taxes and software etc. that's why if you've realised, xiaomi now has EU -Global versions of the ROMs. so the Hong Kong version would be pure Global while Europe version would have EU tuned Global.
well you forgot mention main difference between them is supportive bands for 4g and 5g here is different hardware and is important to check if your country network provider is operating in those bands. otherwise you will get network issues!
That’s a great point, and I definitely experience that here in Hong Kong. The China versions of OnePlus are super cheap, mean while the official Hong Kong version is a good 100+ USD more.
It is too expensive for Europe. I live in Germany and almost everybody has iPhone or Samsung. Nobody knows Xiaomi or know it as a brand that has quite good things (far from premium) for low price. Also having the latest iPhone or Samsung brings you the rich status, which is important for many. We bought Xiaomi mi 9 or mi 9T pro because it was 320€ instead of 800-1000€ Samsung or iPhone flagships but now for same price nobody would buy. I won't either, I am staying with my Samsung S8+, it's still a very modern looking phone, better than Xiaomi mi 10, thinner and more elegant.
I can't understand why people are making all the fuss is about, It's Time for Xiaomi to be one of the big players out there, this is a phone with the best specs out there and it deserves a price that comes with it if you can't afford it there are other options for your budget, I believe if it was another brand in the back of this phone you will not be hearing this mush complaints. let's just face it guys the majority of people can't afford flagship phones.
Good point, and this definitely is a flagship, but I guess for some it’s a tough pill to swallow especially since the China versions are so much cheaper.
First of all thanks for the reply, But this is just an overreaction by some people, and a Xiaomi's to blame as well because they made a big jump in price, which could have been avoidable if they increased the price bit by bit like OP is doing, I understand that it's unacceptable to have this price gap between the global ROM and the CHINA ROM, but if you see what Huawei is doing With their devices they dropping phone's with lower specs theoretically in paper speaking and they came with a +1000 dollars price point and they come with china ROM only with no support of google services, But the MI 10 PRO is an S20 ULTRA competitor witch comes with 1500 Dollars the people should take that into consideration.
You can check video comparisons between mi 9 and mi 10 Pro global in terms of photo. There has been almost no progress, this 108mp camera is useless because of the bad software. The software of Xiaomi phones is no where near Apple, the price is 300€ more expensive... Also, the iPhones really look like serious phones which brings you respect from other people. The Xiaomis mi 10 look like a joke, there is nothing premium in the build to justify that price. Mi 9 was really a good deal for 320€, but the mi 10 Pro at 1000€ is just sad... The hardware of mi 10 looks just like Xiaomi mi note 10 which is 400€ currently on German market. If we pay thousands of euros the we want premium hardware and close to perfect software. This is really no place for Xiaomi. What they did with mi 9 and mi 9t pro was perfect.
one main thing that is most of the time overlooked is that, China version is cheaper because it has less 4G and 5G bands. Meaning that you are also paying the additional 4G and 5G bands on a Global Version. This is really not an obvious thing unless you look deeper on its spec sheets ofcourse.
Hey Frankie, you know I'm a big fan so please take this as constructive criticism. I thought the idea of this video was really good and would be very helpful but I don't feel you fully (or maybe clearly) explained what all the differences would be for an average user. So you did clearly said explained language support which is understandable, you touched upon 'tighter integration of Google services' on the international version but didn't really explain what this is or would mean for the user, like does it just mean installing everything yourself from the Play Store achieves the same result? I wasn't quite sure whether the hardware is identical or almost identical as you interchanged between saying both a few times. I guess what I'd suggest is have an on screen 'differences' chart (or a written list on paper you can show in the video). If it really is just languages and having to install Google Play Store yourself then for English speakers then definitely don't get the international version but if there is more to it then the chart can explain these points. Anyway, love your videos and keep safe. Looks like things have improved a lot in HK and mainland China which is good.
I think you miss a really important aspect when comparing China and Global version, what would keep me from buying China version. It is the supported bands and living in Europe (Hungary) the lack of B20 in the China version can be a problem. And it is always the case with Xiaomi phones, China version don't have B20. It is not always the case with other manufacturers. I had the China version of the Mi Note 2, i really did not mind only having English, but in the summer time, when we were doing camps, the lack of B20 was really painful. (And the price is keeping me from buying the global version :D )
Yes very good point, and yes I apologies I did miss that important point. The Hong Kong version is essentially Global but uses many of the same bands as China, so I can essentially use China ROM phones with full LTE support here. I'm aware about this band 20 now so will make sure to mention in future videos. Thanks for watching!
I was eagerly waiting for the global version but that price has turned me off so much. I am considering the China version but I'm sceptic because I might end up disliking Xiaomi from all the ads and bloat. Confused really
I can understand the concern. The China ROM versions aren't bad at all, you do get used to them. But in most cases I do love the deep Google integration on the Global ROM (saved passwords, Google voice, Google pay, etc), Global 4G and LTE band support and multiple language support.
Similar China/ intl pricing differentials with other Chinese phones. Wish they would just align pricing, not like it costs them substantially more to manufacture n ship!
Great video! Is there any problem installing TH-cam app in Chinese version? Can we install play store and use it 100%? What do you mean "full integration with Google services"? May I get the all the updates on the apps? What are the differences in the 4g and 5g frequencies? Thanks!
Thanks for making this video! Just what I'm looking for. I'm considering to buy a Chinese variant for Oppo's phone because of the cheaper price, but I'm just worried about the software. What are the main disadvantages if you can explain more in detail? Does the global variant have fewer ads? I'm kind of worried if that could be a nuisance. Also, is there any issues with using apps that aren't supposed to be allowed in China? Like Instagram for example or any Google-related apps. Also, can we remove or disable all the Chinese bloatware fully? I hope you will respond to my comment, it would be much appreciated :)
After i saw the prices , i bought myself a galaxy s20+ on ebay for 739$ 🤷🏻♂️ yes the PLUS VARIANT for 260$ less.. official dual sim version made for europe supporting all of the necessary bands .. id only pay that much money if it was a mi mix alpha-ish device ... theres no way this is going to be a successful product in Europe considering the fact that major brands (samsung, lg etc) loose their prices and probably will cost a lot less in a month or two and they also support all the European 4g & 5g bands so essentially you’re getting a better deal (china rom version of mi 10 / pro doesnt support all of the necessary bands) ... i have owned every single flagship device from xiaomi since the original note 1 pro on snap 810 ... last device I bought frrom xiaomi is the mi note 10 ... great device , mediocre chip (snap 730g) ....
Yes, many are buying actually Samsung or iPhone after this release. I don't know if it's a cincidence but the iPhone 11 ist kind of sold out in Germany during last weekend 😅
There is another problem between global rom and china rom. The widevine security level in china rom is L3 and global rom is L1. This will affect the compatibility of the Netflix and other apps even you flash to global rom on the china version phone because the bootloader must be unlocked when using global rom in china version phone and this will affect the SafetyNet can't be passed.
@@artdogg50 now im looking at second hand P30 pros or s10+ (its about 30-33k). Brand new xiaomi phones on that price level doesnt even have decent screens and speakers.
Yeah Redmi is dreaming if they think people will chose the MI 10 Pro over the latest IPhones and Samsung at roughly around the same price. They are going to lose a lot of business, I don't care what anyone says different.
Frankie you are correct in not to flash the china rom with global rom, tried that one on Mi5 china rom before, after flashing it had a lot of bugs/ issues( ie. heating issues, sound issues, photo quality not as good as the china rom, internet issues and calling issues) .
I'll have to stick with my Redmi Note 8 Pro here in Australia Frankie. Would love the new global version but phones are like cars now; out of date the moment you leave the store ☹️
China ROM! Easy choice as an English speaker to save 3000RMB. Furthermore, the China ROM has way more features than the global ROM. China ROM is my preferred choice even if the price was the same!
Certainly not worth that for the European version when you can get very good alternatives for half the price. The China version will probably have problems in Europe with Google pay and nfc functionality and doesn't have proper European band support in any case so should be a non-runner in Europe. Of course, for people who like miui and and don't care about value for money why not get the European version. All Chinese brands charge 30-40% more in Europe though so not surprised by this although thought it would be around €100 cheaper
The Global version is SINGLE SIM. And for me, this is a deal-breaker, especially as I travel a lot (well, a bit less lately...). It costs HKD 6000 (I live in Hong Kong), which is nearly double the price I usually pay when buying Xiaomi phones in the past. I like the screen and cameras very much, can accept that there's no 3.5mm audio port and no SD card slot. But I just can't accept SINGLE SIM, especially as I travel. And this is even more frustrating when I know that the China version has Dual SIM. This is a big BIG disappointment for me. Long time fan of Xiaomi, disappointed. So I'll see if the K30 Pro Zoom global version will have Dual SIM or Single SIM. If Single SIM also, I'll be buying another brand for the first time in 8 years.
Wow sorry to hear Damien. I only ever use a single SIM so it’s a non issue for me, and I also prefer deep google integration, multiple language support, and less annoying ads of the Global versions. But agreed that is a letdown if you value that!
@@FrankieTech thanks for your reply 🙂. I have a particular lifestyle, living between two countries (hence the need of dual sim). In the past, I would buy Xiaomi flagship models without any second thoughts, as the prices were always reasonable. I must admit that this year, it's the first time I really hesitated because of the price tag. So perhaps this single sim is a blessing in disguise, as it helped me decide 😉. Stay safe and take care.
If you can order a Xiaomi phone from China then you're smart enough to flash a global or European version into it. I live in Australia, with no Xiaomi stores here, so I have to order phones from china and install a global ROM. It works. One thing you have to mention is that: you buy a phone from your local Xiaomi store and you get a warranty with it.
I feel you bro! It’s definitely taken a step up in the price department! I think the price should go own soon, as they just know people aren’t too happy with the current pricing!
People loved Xiaomi for its superb specs and budget friendly pricing. I was so disappointed with they pricing for the global version. It lacks many things compared to its counterparts with the same price range as them. I hope they reconsider the price.
Im so much excited about the global release. Expecting the price will be same or close to the china pricing.. but with that price, im waiting for one plus 8. If one plus 8 also disappoint, ill go one plus 7t pro.
The main "issue" with the China version is the lack of some LTE bands we want in EU, or at least nordic countries. I'd be fine with only English language. Also the lack of videwine L1, some google integration for NFC and banking apps is also important.
I was ready to go upto £750.00 but if they are pushing it up that far then why wouldn't you just go with Samsung, Oneplus or even Apple and have peace of mind that the software interface will be fit for purpose in a years time. Too much risk... not enough gain. For that reason, I'm out.
Exactly, I own a business iPhone 6 which worked since years, a Samsung S8+ since 3 years and an iPhone 11. All work after all these years like a charm, while my colleague's Xiaomi broke after one year. I used a mi 9 for 3 months, it's a very good phone taking into consideration that it was just 300€, but paying 1000€ for mi 10 pro is just not worth it. The reactions I got from friends using the mi 9 werent great either, nobody heard about the brand and were very suspicious. Now imaging paying 1000€ for this toy. 😅
@@lorep7412 Think they are getting carried away with their own publicity. I'm sure they'll bring the price down very soon if they don't sell any. Market forces will come into play. Probably too late for me though.. I'm refocusing on the OnePlus 8 pro.
If all the difference is the languages. You can just take the chinese rom, and use it as English for the main OS. And then use google play store to change the keyboard to Gboard, that should let you use the keyboard with all the apps in your own language. Isn't it right?
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Are you Team Mi 10 Pro Global? Mi 10 Pro China? Or Team other Phone?!
Global
Global
I'm team global version!
If base from price of Mi 9 and Mi 9T pro compared with Chinese price here in Malaysia roughly the price of Mi 10 pro is around RM3199/3299($750).I really hoping its still the same if not Xiaomi is screwed
Team global
After the price announcement now I'm looking at the Oneplus 8. Hopefully Oneplus doesn't screw up with the price like Xiaomi.
Should be an exciting release!
same here! more than this Oneplus promised not to jump over 1000$ barrier, which is cool. Oneplus have the advantage of a better display, same SD 865 and all flagship specs, and if the camera is good, I'm definitely going for it!
Same i m literally waiting for the oneplus 8 (non pro) HOPEFULLY it will not reach 700$
Same here. Really wanted to buy Mi 10 Pro but after the price announcement I'm waiting for OnePlus 8. That should be also a good phone with much better software than Xiaomi. I hope the price is right.
Guess what they screwed up with the prices.
If I was to buy this phone, I'd go for the China version, wait the allotted time to unlock the bootloader, install TWRP then Magisk and then flash Xiaomi EU ROM. Doing this, you would end up with an even better version than the Global ROM. Xiaomi EU ROM is debloated, optimized and you'd have all the language support needed
But you won't have the European lte bands.
In Germany the Chinese version is basically useless, because you can hardly use lte on it.
Changing loader and Rom does not change the lte bands.
@@muuhnkin4611 That's true but I have a China version of Mi Max 3 and have Xiaomi EU on that and it works fine for me in the UK....some lte bands are missing but on three network, it's fine
@@jasong1033 missing band 20 would mean dropping from 95% net coverage to about 40%. So no connection for more than half of the country
Here in Germany, other bands than 20 are mostly used in cities, in rural areas you would have basically no network without lte band 20.
@@muuhnkin4611 Well, you'd be better of with the global version then
@@muuhnkin4611 damn I didnt know this. So China version won't be able to use all networks like global version?
They shouldn't place mi 10 pro for 999€. It doesn't have IP rating, qhd screen, usbe 3.0. It just doesn't cut it at 999€
And it doesn't have DEX mode like Samsung or Huawei...
599€ xiaomi mi 10
799€ xiaomi mi 10 pro
will be perfect
@@elandalousi6959 if mi 10 €599 i Will pre-order right now
really disappointed with the price of global rom.. the price is equal with the iphone X at the launch event
Iphone X is also not as good as this
@@wouterdehaut337 it's also 2 years ago 😂
@@harits3602 So whats ur point?
@@wouter.d.h. it's 2 years ago, things get better over time
@@wouterdehaut337 camera, Processor both are better💀gives better software update
Cool video Frankie, you just forgot to mention the lack of B20 in the China version
And the missing Dual Sim in the Global Version
Where are you where band 20 is crucial?
@@kriskquinn.68 EU, if you're not in the city it's crucial
Actually i was a bit disappointed with the pricing strategy that they did towards their flagship ina global version. Hopefully Xiaomi will reconsider
Definitely higher than I expected! We shall see bro!
Why? apple doing this for ages and Samsung also started .. so why not this? everyone knows that Europe/UK always pay more like sheeps...
2 things.
Thats way too much money in Europe considering Xiaomi software and camera optimization have a long way to go (they are getting better every year).
Flashing the global rom does NOT give you the missing 4G/LTE frequencies that is optimal for use in several European countries..
I feel proud when u put the MYR in the price
Thanks for watching bro! Love my Malaysia viewers!
hallo malaysian here
Yeahh , Malaysian viewers here
Same here
Me malaysian here
Hey Frankie, something to consider. Those of us in the USA have to be mindful for the lte band support. The global version is actually missing band 4g- 12 / 17 & 5g n41 that the China rom has.
Buying a global rom version would leave me with a phone that doesn't have a primary 4g band and no 5g support.
Two other important problems with chinese versions (I had these with my mi8) there is no in app purchase (was a problem for my drone app, I could not get some extra features) and you can not use your phone to pay. The other problem with flashing your phone would be that you can not lock your bootloader and secured applications will not work for example bank applications. I also heard you could not stream more than 480P netflix videos with the unlocked bootloader.
We cant do in-app purchases on a Chinese variant phone?? What about buying apps?
Xiaomi should've just dropped it at $800 max for the base variant.
NOTE: For potential cheap xiaomi phone buyers
A xiaomi phone with china rom may cost slightly cheaper than the global version, do note that some apps may not work properly or have notification delays due to the lack of Google services integrated within the rom. You'll have to unlock the bootloader and flash the global rom, unlike oneplus which is more user friendly without bl unlock. In addition, after flashing the rom, some apps may still not work properly as it requires your system to pass safetynet because it detects that your bootloader is unlocked. You'll then have to root your device and flash magisk in order to pass safetynet.
If you've being following the rooting scene for a while, it was noted by magisk dev john wu that Google may patch safety net in the near future which might permanently break the functionality of hiding your bootloader. Basically, passing safety net is a cat and mouse game with Google and you'll constantly need to update to the latest version of magisk.
If you like xiaomi phones and don't want to give yourself a hard time, do yourself a favor by just buying the global rom version instead as it works right out of the box although it may cost more. Saving a couple of hundred bucks isn't worth it imo when you have to go through the tedious process of tweaking the china rom ver to work internationally. I learned this the hard way a year ago.
Thanks for the explanation! I will wait! A am sure the price will go down quickly! Real me and other brands are on the battle!
Hay Frankie 🙂. Usually the difference between global and Chinese rom is about 100 dollars. 1100 dollars is insane! Xiaomi is stretching it...
Agreed Mohammad! The more time I think about it I do feel they got the European pricing wrong. It’s ok to price phones at this level, but to make such a big jump year on year was probably not a good idea. Sales will reflect this unfortunately. All the best my friend!
@@FrankieTech Definitely. Usually Xiaomi is smart with marketing, I really don't get their brains with this rn.
Another Good Xiaomi phone, but way overpriced. Time to move on
I was honestly thinking about buying the Mi 10 Pro this year but the first second i Saw the price I'm like: No fricking way.. It is a beautiful phone with great specs but not a 1000 euro nice phone..
Yeah I understand the concern Jimmy. I'm sure there's more behind the story of why the price is in Europe what it is, but it is unfortunate.
@@FrankieTech there Will absolutely be a reason why it's priced that high but most 2020 phones are going to be much more expensive and a big reason I believe that's is of is the 865 plus the 5G modem is just to expensive to make for the moment and that's why it cost so much.. I hope it's something like that because if they only bumped up the price that extremely without any REAL good reason then they have lost their ways..
Hey your Spanish is nice dude, my first language is Spanish it was a surprise when you spoke in Spanish
Frank , is the global version identical to the chinese version ?
Or there's difference in the specs and hardware...
Xiaomi should had increased the price slowly, has OP has been done in the last years. Not considering it anymore at this price.
It is because of world problems
@@exx0dus exactly because of the world problems they should have kept it lower. People struggle paying the rent now and don't think about paying for a chinese brand phone that nobody knows about in Europe 1000€. Really not the right time to try to rip off people.
i prefer the global version... everything china is risky now
Its not true!
I'm fade of google products.
Global version looks bigger than China version
A lotta xiaomi enthusiasts going to migrate to one plus
That might be the case Jose, but China ROM versions are still a great price!
@@FrankieTech great price but still depends on the 3rd party sellers.
@@LnZ_Blu Yeah the third party sellers are still pricing it way over $705. I haven't come close to seeing that price outside of China yet. Redmi needs to get this under control or they are going to lose a lot of customers to Oneplus or Realme.
Good one Jose...I'm.waiting for mi 10 pro launch in India..If its pirce would be around one plus 8 pro..I would definitely buy mi 10 pro ..by the way It's a strong contender against S 20 ulta..May be equal or even better than ultra
I accidentally bought the Chinese version of the Mi Max 3 with a buggy beta ROM on it, so I had to flash the China ROM onto it, set it to English and side-load Google services onto the phone along with a Roman keyboard.
I am suprised about how stable the China ROM has been and how fast I got new updates. I never encountered a single bug in the two years that I've had the phone.
My brother has the global version and we found out something interesting. Video quality on the Chinese ROM is way better than on the global version!
If there are going to be 300 Euro price differences between Chinese and global versions of Xiaomi phones, then I don't mind using the Chinese versions. You can simply set the language to English, uninstall any Chinese bloat, side-load Google services and install a Roman keyboard.
Can you buy apps and in-app purchases though on the Chinese ROM? Someone pointed out that's one of the problems for that ROM.
Europe has different regulations for taxes and software etc. that's why if you've realised, xiaomi now has EU -Global versions of the ROMs. so the Hong Kong version would be pure Global while Europe version would have EU tuned Global.
Thanks for sharing the info! I really hope you’re right! I will be shocked if the Hong Kong version is 50% more than the China unit.
well you forgot mention main difference between them is supportive bands for 4g and 5g here is different hardware and is important to check if your country network provider is operating in those bands. otherwise you will get network issues!
Where did you buy your mi 10 pro global?
What is the difference between global version and normal version phones?
I worry that Xiaomi will go the path of Oneplus where the cheaper Chinese versions are nowhere to be seen in import markets
That’s a great point, and I definitely experience that here in Hong Kong. The China versions of OnePlus are super cheap, mean while the official Hong Kong version is a good 100+ USD more.
It is too expensive for Europe. I live in Germany and almost everybody has iPhone or Samsung. Nobody knows Xiaomi or know it as a brand that has quite good things (far from premium) for low price.
Also having the latest iPhone or Samsung brings you the rich status, which is important for many. We bought Xiaomi mi 9 or mi 9T pro because it was 320€ instead of 800-1000€ Samsung or iPhone flagships but now for same price nobody would buy.
I won't either, I am staying with my Samsung S8+, it's still a very modern looking phone, better than Xiaomi mi 10, thinner and more elegant.
Exactly, they wont move many
Hey you again! Hey there
I can't understand why people are making all the fuss is about, It's Time for Xiaomi to be one of the big players out there, this is a phone with the best specs out there and it deserves a price that comes with it if you can't afford it there are other options for your budget, I believe if it was another brand in the back of this phone you will not be hearing this mush complaints. let's just face it guys the majority of people can't afford flagship phones.
Good point, and this definitely is a flagship, but I guess for some it’s a tough pill to swallow especially since the China versions are so much cheaper.
First of all thanks for the reply, But this is just an overreaction by some people, and a Xiaomi's to blame as well because they made a big jump in price, which could have been avoidable if they increased the price bit by bit like OP is doing, I understand that it's unacceptable to have this price gap between the global ROM and the CHINA ROM, but if you see what Huawei is doing With their devices they dropping phone's with lower specs theoretically in paper speaking and they came with a +1000 dollars price point and they come with china ROM only with no support of google services, But the MI 10 PRO is an S20 ULTRA competitor witch comes with 1500 Dollars the people should take that into consideration.
You can check video comparisons between mi 9 and mi 10 Pro global in terms of photo. There has been almost no progress, this 108mp camera is useless because of the bad software. The software of Xiaomi phones is no where near Apple, the price is 300€ more expensive... Also, the iPhones really look like serious phones which brings you respect from other people. The Xiaomis mi 10 look like a joke, there is nothing premium in the build to justify that price. Mi 9 was really a good deal for 320€, but the mi 10 Pro at 1000€ is just sad...
The hardware of mi 10 looks just like Xiaomi mi note 10 which is 400€ currently on German market.
If we pay thousands of euros the we want premium hardware and close to perfect software. This is really no place for Xiaomi. What they did with mi 9 and mi 9t pro was perfect.
one main thing that is most of the time overlooked is that, China version is cheaper because it has less 4G and 5G bands. Meaning that you are also paying the additional 4G and 5G bands on a Global Version. This is really not an obvious thing unless you look deeper on its spec sheets ofcourse.
Hey Frankie, you know I'm a big fan so please take this as constructive criticism. I thought the idea of this video was really good and would be very helpful but I don't feel you fully (or maybe clearly) explained what all the differences would be for an average user.
So you did clearly said explained language support which is understandable, you touched upon 'tighter integration of Google services' on the international version but didn't really explain what this is or would mean for the user, like does it just mean installing everything yourself from the Play Store achieves the same result?
I wasn't quite sure whether the hardware is identical or almost identical as you interchanged between saying both a few times.
I guess what I'd suggest is have an on screen 'differences' chart (or a written list on paper you can show in the video). If it really is just languages and having to install Google Play Store yourself then for English speakers then definitely don't get the international version but if there is more to it then the chart can explain these points.
Anyway, love your videos and keep safe. Looks like things have improved a lot in HK and mainland China which is good.
I think you miss a really important aspect when comparing China and Global version, what would keep me from buying China version. It is the supported bands and living in Europe (Hungary) the lack of B20 in the China version can be a problem. And it is always the case with Xiaomi phones, China version don't have B20. It is not always the case with other manufacturers. I had the China version of the Mi Note 2, i really did not mind only having English, but in the summer time, when we were doing camps, the lack of B20 was really painful. (And the price is keeping me from buying the global version :D )
Yes very good point, and yes I apologies I did miss that important point. The Hong Kong version is essentially Global but uses many of the same bands as China, so I can essentially use China ROM phones with full LTE support here. I'm aware about this band 20 now so will make sure to mention in future videos. Thanks for watching!
I was eagerly waiting for the global version but that price has turned me off so much. I am considering the China version but I'm sceptic because I might end up disliking Xiaomi from all the ads and bloat. Confused really
I can understand the concern. The China ROM versions aren't bad at all, you do get used to them. But in most cases I do love the deep Google integration on the Global ROM (saved passwords, Google voice, Google pay, etc), Global 4G and LTE band support and multiple language support.
Another great review. Thanks Frankie.
Question:
Is there a great difference between a 90Hz and 120Hz phone?
Thanks Willie! Not as much as from 60 to 90 Hz in my opinion
60 -> 90 is 50% increase, 90 -> 120 is 33%, much less noticeable
@@Peizxcv true
Hello Frank thanks for your awesome content but I'd like global version but right now I'm scared the virus is spreading fast here in Nigeria
Similar China/ intl pricing differentials with other Chinese phones. Wish they would just align pricing, not like it costs them substantially more to manufacture n ship!
Great video! Is there any problem installing TH-cam app in Chinese version? Can we install play store and use it 100%? What do you mean "full integration with Google services"? May I get the all the updates on the apps? What are the differences in the 4g and 5g frequencies? Thanks!
Thanks for making this video! Just what I'm looking for. I'm considering to buy a Chinese variant for Oppo's phone because of the cheaper price, but I'm just worried about the software. What are the main disadvantages if you can explain more in detail? Does the global variant have fewer ads? I'm kind of worried if that could be a nuisance. Also, is there any issues with using apps that aren't supposed to be allowed in China? Like Instagram for example or any Google-related apps. Also, can we remove or disable all the Chinese bloatware fully? I hope you will respond to my comment, it would be much appreciated :)
600 euro yes. 1000 euro no.
Price matters most for us consumers.
After i saw the prices , i bought myself a galaxy s20+ on ebay for 739$ 🤷🏻♂️ yes the PLUS VARIANT for 260$ less.. official dual sim version made for europe supporting all of the necessary bands .. id only pay that much money if it was a mi mix alpha-ish device ... theres no way this is going to be a successful product in Europe considering the fact that major brands (samsung, lg etc) loose their prices and probably will cost a lot less in a month or two and they also support all the European 4g & 5g bands so essentially you’re getting a better deal (china rom version of mi 10 / pro doesnt support all of the necessary bands) ... i have owned every single flagship device from xiaomi since the original note 1 pro on snap 810 ... last device I bought frrom xiaomi is the mi note 10 ... great device , mediocre chip (snap 730g) ....
Yes, many are buying actually Samsung or iPhone after this release. I don't know if it's a cincidence but the iPhone 11 ist kind of sold out in Germany during last weekend 😅
Does it come with Snapdragon? If so, where did you buy it from?
@@lorep7412 no unfortunately it is the exynos version , but at that price im not mad at it ...
Prices in Europe are crazy... I stay @ My global Mi8 and Mi9T 👍😃✔️
No way I'd pay over $1000 for the MI 10 Pro. May as well just buy a Samsung S20 or S20 Plus. Redmi has officially lost their damn minds. 🤦♂️
Not redmi but yea i agree
Look the price now haha for that price xiaomi still have better specifications even if it cost 1000€
Hi Frankie, it is true that Global version is only Single SIM and China version is Dual SIM? Thank you for answer
There is another problem between global rom and china rom. The widevine security level in china rom is L3 and global rom is L1. This will affect the compatibility of the Netflix and other apps even you flash to global rom on the china version phone because the bootloader must be unlocked when using global rom in china version phone and this will affect the SafetyNet can't be passed.
Thanks for the Video and Information Frankie !!
Thanks Jean Michel!
I paid £807 for the 12GB Ram 512GB Storage Chinese version. That's much cheaper than the base model EU version which is 8GB 256GB 999 Euros.
Hi Frankie , nice video like always . quick question , is the china version support all networks world wide like the global version usually does ?
Thanks! It doesn’t it will support only bands like 1,3,5 and 7 that are predominantly used in China/Hong Kong
@@FrankieTech my friend has a Huawei device Chinese version and it supports global networks, maybe not all of them but most.
It does not have B20, which is used a lot over here
Take china version unlock bootloader and change to global version,u save money and get global verdion
Black Shark 3 pro or Mi 10 Pro??
I want better bigger Phone with better sound
With that price I'd rather go samsung/huawei. Same with CN, 3rd party sellers are selling it for a high price too
Yeah I haven't seen it priced at $705 yet outside of China. It's always priced a lot higher by third party sellers.
@@artdogg50 now im looking at second hand P30 pros or s10+ (its about 30-33k). Brand new xiaomi phones on that price level doesnt even have decent screens and speakers.
mi 10 pro at the price of iphone?
no IP68
inferior camera
inferior software
NO THANKS
Exactly, with the price you get the iphone 11 pro max
Yeah Redmi is dreaming if they think people will chose the MI 10 Pro over the latest IPhones and Samsung at roughly around the same price. They are going to lose a lot of business, I don't care what anyone says different.
Inferior camera?? How ??It's camera is best with latest Samsung imhx image sensor ..
No need of ip68
.It's just eye catching
Mi 10 pro wud be around 50 k in India..I guess its good deal then
I'll take China rom all day everyday with that price difference even tho I live in France
Frankie you are correct in not to flash the china rom with global rom, tried that one on Mi5 china rom before, after flashing it had a lot of bugs/ issues( ie. heating issues, sound issues, photo quality not as good as the china rom, internet issues and calling issues) .
Thanks for sharing bro! Yeah I don't recommend it either now in 2020! Thanks for watching bro!
Hi frankie. ..it's Tony from India ..
Good to see you frankie again😆😍
Haha, thanks for watching Tony!
I'll have to stick with my Redmi Note 8 Pro here in Australia Frankie. Would love the new global version but phones are like cars now; out of date the moment you leave the store ☹️
is the Fortress version is global .
Great video comprision as always stay safe bro 🙏 👍
Thanks bro! Stay safe!
China ROM! Easy choice as an English speaker to save 3000RMB. Furthermore, the China ROM has way more features than the global ROM. China ROM is my preferred choice even if the price was the same!
China version and flash to the European ROM firmware is the best option I think.
the oppo x2 have better display, better cameras software....this is unreal, is like xiaomi is laughing on our face
Oppo x2 costs 1200....
Great Video Frankie.
I think it's best to wait a couple of months. The price will definitely go down.
Certainly not worth that for the European version when you can get very good alternatives for half the price. The China version will probably have problems in Europe with Google pay and nfc functionality and doesn't have proper European band support in any case so should be a non-runner in Europe. Of course, for people who like miui and and don't care about value for money why not get the European version. All Chinese brands charge 30-40% more in Europe though so not surprised by this although thought it would be around €100 cheaper
The Global version is SINGLE SIM. And for me, this is a deal-breaker, especially as I travel a lot (well, a bit less lately...). It costs HKD 6000 (I live in Hong Kong), which is nearly double the price I usually pay when buying Xiaomi phones in the past. I like the screen and cameras very much, can accept that there's no 3.5mm audio port and no SD card slot. But I just can't accept SINGLE SIM, especially as I travel. And this is even more frustrating when I know that the China version has Dual SIM.
This is a big BIG disappointment for me. Long time fan of Xiaomi, disappointed. So I'll see if the K30 Pro Zoom global version will have Dual SIM or Single SIM. If Single SIM also, I'll be buying another brand for the first time in 8 years.
Wow sorry to hear Damien. I only ever use a single SIM so it’s a non issue for me, and I also prefer deep google integration, multiple language support, and less annoying ads of the Global versions. But agreed that is a letdown if you value that!
@@FrankieTech thanks for your reply 🙂. I have a particular lifestyle, living between two countries (hence the need of dual sim). In the past, I would buy Xiaomi flagship models without any second thoughts, as the prices were always reasonable. I must admit that this year, it's the first time I really hesitated because of the price tag. So perhaps this single sim is a blessing in disguise, as it helped me decide 😉.
Stay safe and take care.
P40 pro instead of mi 10 pro
Better wait for oneplus 8/pro than $1100 with miui
If you can order a Xiaomi phone from China then you're smart enough to flash a global or European version into it. I live in Australia, with no Xiaomi stores here, so I have to order phones from china and install a global ROM. It works. One thing you have to mention is that: you buy a phone from your local Xiaomi store and you get a warranty with it.
Here in the UK. The China phone is missing the B32 band
Which is needed for vodaphone and a few other networks.
Now that Xiaomi has a device with bands 12 & 17 for the U.S. the price is through the roof! I’ll give it a few months and see how the pricing is then.
I feel you bro! It’s definitely taken a step up in the price department! I think the price should go own soon, as they just know people aren’t too happy with the current pricing!
Does global version still have dual SIM tray? I've heard rumors that global version is single SIM only.
I also heard that, please confirm
Global version does not have dual SIM tray.
WHY IS THE PRO €999?!, I thought it was meant to be $700?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is it just me, or the chin bezel looks bigger on the global rom version?!
Yeah
Phone looks also bigger
Great video. Wow. The midrange phones are getting just as expensive as the other top brands. Take care amigo.
People loved Xiaomi for its superb specs and budget friendly pricing. I was so disappointed with they pricing for the global version. It lacks many things compared to its counterparts with the same price range as them. I hope they reconsider the price.
Can we buy global version in chaina?
Why u didn't showed the charges and accessories are.they diffrent ?
Do you think as a french, it would be annoying to have China version ? Pliiizzz answer I need help
Am planning to get oneplus 9r
Nd there are both visions. Am from india soo what is ur opinion abt get a Chinese version...
Im so much excited about the global release. Expecting the price will be same or close to the china pricing.. but with that price, im waiting for one plus 8. If one plus 8 also disappoint, ill go one plus 7t pro.
hows the keyboard?
The main "issue" with the China version is the lack of some LTE bands we want in EU, or at least nordic countries. I'd be fine with only English language. Also the lack of videwine L1, some google integration for NFC and banking apps is also important.
Please do a comparison between other cheap brands like Realme etc. Thanks!
Not considering this phone at this time. Will probably import the Redmi K30 instead.
Do they have the same LTE bands or whatever? and Can you install Mi dialer on a mi note 10 global?
Are LTE bands the same on both ?
I was ready to go upto £750.00 but if they are pushing it up that far then why wouldn't you just go with Samsung, Oneplus or even Apple and have peace of mind that the software interface will be fit for purpose in a years time. Too much risk... not enough gain. For that reason, I'm out.
Exactly, I own a business iPhone 6 which worked since years, a Samsung S8+ since 3 years and an iPhone 11. All work after all these years like a charm, while my colleague's Xiaomi broke after one year. I used a mi 9 for 3 months, it's a very good phone taking into consideration that it was just 300€, but paying 1000€ for mi 10 pro is just not worth it. The reactions I got from friends using the mi 9 werent great either, nobody heard about the brand and were very suspicious. Now imaging paying 1000€ for this toy. 😅
@@lorep7412 Think they are getting carried away with their own publicity. I'm sure they'll bring the price down very soon if they don't sell any. Market forces will come into play. Probably too late for me though.. I'm refocusing on the OnePlus 8 pro.
Mi10Pro Global👍
That global is too expensive. I'll get something else.
is there dual sim support for global version?
That is a big fat NO, unfortunately.
If all the difference is the languages. You can just take the chinese rom, and use it as English for the main OS. And then use google play store to change the keyboard to Gboard, that should let you use the keyboard with all the apps in your own language.
Isn't it right?
Is it safe to allow the vendor to install global Rom on the phone before shipping it?
Sorry my Friend.
My English Little broken.
I dont understand
Global version and China are same?
Or
Which is good?
Thank you so much bro and great review 😊👍
Where is k30 pro..?
Mi note 10 pro or mi 10 (not pro) for better camera ?
If i buy Mi 10 ultra China version
do it have signal in US and Europe?
I was totally shocked when they announced the pricing. But I cam see from where they are coming.
I always watch your videos, all your videos are really great
Xiaomi is going to fail in this strategy