Disastrous Take Off at Shanghai Airport - Avient Aviation Flight 324

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  • On 28 November 2009, Avient Aviation McDonnell Douglas MD-11F, registration Z-BAV (c/n 48408), on flight 324 from Shanghai Pudong International Airport to Manas International Airport, near Bishkek, crashed during its take off roll.
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  • @doylepro
    @doylepro 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Saw this with my own eyes. Was travelling onboard a 747 freighter from Tashkent enroute back to base in Kuala Lumpur as a Loadmaster. We were parked on the cargo ramp opposite of the terminal. We were all loaded, buttoned up and I was just about to take my rest on the spacious upper deck seat when a sudden thump shook my plane . My first thought was a deck loader must have hit us, then I look outside on my left window to see a huge flame trailing this plane yawing on the runway( It looks as if it was a narrowbody-later I find the reason it looks smaller since the tail's gone by then) , a huge balls of fire ensued and it keeps burning for hours. We were kept on the parking for 3.5 hour before leaving back to base. It was a the most horrifying experience in my career.

    • @MPCFlights
      @MPCFlights  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @peterresetz1960
      @peterresetz1960 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That must have unsettling affected on you every time that big aluminum tube you're in starts a takeoff roll.
      Safe flying.

    • @doylepro
      @doylepro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@peterresetz1960 It does & ironically the Captain on my flight told me- It will be forgotten in days as it was just a cargo aircraft, just like ours.

    • @alexandreleite2541
      @alexandreleite2541 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for your service.

  • @jimsanders4412
    @jimsanders4412 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Filling out forms on takeoff roll??? Seriously???!!! 🤬 Total idiots in the cockpit!!🤦‍♂️

    • @grahamstevenson1740
      @grahamstevenson1740 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Makes a mockery of the sterile cockpit rule.

    • @tcaldeira1
      @tcaldeira1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No... actually crew worked plenty prior to this journey, only 5Hs of sleep. They were reaaly exausted.

    • @deepthinker999
      @deepthinker999 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, the idiots are the executives who created these unrealistic work schedules.

    • @grahamstevenson1740
      @grahamstevenson1740 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@deepthinker999 Whatever you think of work schedules, pilots should NOT be engrossed with, irrelevant communications during such phases of flight. There's a thing called the sterile cockpit rule below 10,000 feet (FL 100).
      asrs.arc.nasa.gov/publications/directline/dl4_sterile.htm

  • @jeanneewaseck6635
    @jeanneewaseck6635 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    "Life is a journey" - buut after enough of these videos, I think I'll drive myself!

    • @deepthinker999
      @deepthinker999 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      35K automobile fatalities in the U.S. every year. You are much safer with the (4) main line carriers flying in the USA.

  • @californiadreaming9216
    @californiadreaming9216 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    50 % power on takeoff ?!? Un-freaking-believable.
    STAGGERING incompetence.

    • @oneworldawakening
      @oneworldawakening 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The crew was exhausted.

    • @michaellane7030
      @michaellane7030 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Or super tired, being that tired is worse than being drunk. 😢

    • @deepthinker999
      @deepthinker999 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      These independent freighters are notorious for poor maintenance, old planes, overworked crews, and shady business practices.

  • @Bren39
    @Bren39 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Who does paperwork during takeoff roll? I don't care how tired he was... No one should be doing that.. Paperwork could have waited a few minutes.

  • @Tahoe_Z71
    @Tahoe_Z71 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    No wonder it was disastrous. It left the ramp with no crew.

  • @dubbledub4588
    @dubbledub4588 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Blaming this crash on high blood pressure and lack of sleep is entirely inappropriate. Fatigue is a real challenge that we all face every day, but this was gross negligence/incompetence. Whoa...

  • @melvyncox3361
    @melvyncox3361 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video! Unbelievable!What a crew.No wonder the airline went bust.l.remember Avient.l'm sure they also flew DC-10s.

  • @JohnShields-xx1yk
    @JohnShields-xx1yk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    50% power, I wouldn't let them drive my car let alone an aircraft, imagine if that was full of passengers, talk about brain dead.

    • @deepthinker999
      @deepthinker999 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      or physically exhausted ? OTR truckers are limited to (11) hours of work each day by the DOT.

  • @Robert-rv3zm
    @Robert-rv3zm หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If your recreation is accurate, I could tell right away that the crew obviously had not set the flaps for takeoff.

  • @lbowsk
    @lbowsk 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There has got to be more to this story. Why was the power set incorrectly? Every jet takeoff has a target thrust that must be achieved early in the takeoff run. It's a numerical value, an EPR, a target N1, something. To suggest that they did not set the proper take off thrust brings up more questions than it answers. Furthermore, the recreation shows the engine gauges near the top of their scales. This is not what would show with 50 percent power. For example, in the Air Florida crash at DCA was determined that the crew neglected to select Engine Anti-Ice after they started the engines. This mistake caused the DISPLAYED EPR to be "correct" but in reality, it was far below what it should have been. The Fuel Flow and N2 (gas generator portion) of the engine NEVER lie, but its unlikely these guys knew what those values should have been.

  • @colinmccarthy7921
    @colinmccarthy7921 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It should never off happened.

  • @ganderson158
    @ganderson158 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a shame in more ways than one. RIP. I now sleep deprived but why?

  • @BrianMorrison
    @BrianMorrison 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Avient had a poor reputation for paying its bills. There was a reason it registered its aircraft in Zimbabwe.
    Crew failed to engage the auto throttle and the Clamp annunciation on the displays never appeared, if the thrust levers had been advanced further then the A/T would have engaged and the acceleration would have been normal. Fatigue, lack of currency, and fatal complacency.

    • @josepha.r5839
      @josepha.r5839 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      " registered its aircraft in Zimbabwe" Wow! That's pretty desperate to stay afloat ... and then not.

  • @floycewhite6991
    @floycewhite6991 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The plane couldn't be at fault. It wasn't 30 years old yet.

  • @gusmc01
    @gusmc01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He "instinctively rotated" or he rotated because another pilot was screaming "Rotate!!"??

  • @MeaHeaR
    @MeaHeaR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why Hub Caps is be Flashjnğ Off Undd Õnn ¿¿¿¿

  • @cowboy6591
    @cowboy6591 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is why you don't take your sister to the senior prom!!

  • @jimthompson5612
    @jimthompson5612 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even though the co-pilot had the controls the pilot still should have been totally concentrating on the takeoff and not filling out paperwork

  • @Madskills810
    @Madskills810 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No excuses.....These guys were complete idiots. Im just glad they didnt have 300 people sitting behind them.

    • @deepthinker999
      @deepthinker999 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      These were experienced professionals working for a sleaze bag company. The executives should have been prosecuted for the loss of life that they caused.

  • @peterresetz1960
    @peterresetz1960 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    From what the captioned narration told, was that the captain who should have been the minor touring pilot whilst on takeoff roll, was instead doing paperwork.
    Head monitoring pilot, most importantly was the captain, should head noticed the airspeed and called it out and the throttle position as the pilot is looking forward flying the plane keeping it centered on the runway.
    Also. One of the monitoring pilots, if not both, should have noticed the power settings for the engines were only at 50%.
    The blame here seems to be squarely on the shoulders of the captain who was not performing his proper self assigned duties as monitoring pilot.
    Although, in all fairness, the whole light crew was seriously sleep deprived, and fatigued enough to overlook the serious air of the engine power setting.
    It would be interesting to know how much forward velocity the aircraft lost when it rotated then according to the video, dragged the tail of the aircraft fuselage for quite a substantial distance. If the video is accurate, the aircraft lost a significant amount of speed due to the friction similar to just putting on the brakes.
    At least some survive the crash, and no one on the ground was injured.

  • @TheWidebody747
    @TheWidebody747 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fatigue and auto throttles. Not good.

  • @georgecoons6872
    @georgecoons6872 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thats called popping a bonzie wheelie.

  • @thomasmoseley6955
    @thomasmoseley6955 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incompetent crew, totally unprofessional.

    • @deepthinker999
      @deepthinker999 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      or maybe very unlucky.

  • @neetumukundan3020
    @neetumukundan3020 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great work. So realistic....m a new subscriber

    • @MPCFlights
      @MPCFlights  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks and welcome

  • @MrAlbertoAngulo1
    @MrAlbertoAngulo1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry, I don't think anyone is talking about the autothrottles... they were activated for takeoff. I don't think so. The crew was tired.

  • @grahamstevenson1740
    @grahamstevenson1740 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fatigue claims yet more.Those pilots should never have been flying.

  • @JamesStreet-tp1vb
    @JamesStreet-tp1vb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such simple mistakes of the most rudimentary configurations. Trying to takeoff with the engines at 50%. Lord have mercy.

  • @flyingtigerline
    @flyingtigerline 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nicely done.

  • @57Jimmy
    @57Jimmy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, the bad weeds got pulled and the others lived to fly another day.

  • @colinashby3775
    @colinashby3775 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Proof that 50% just won’t get you off the ground doesn’t matter how long the runway.

  • @michelscotto3900
    @michelscotto3900 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maurizio is that you here ?? in english now Grazias ))) Como estas ? bién ?
    michel Scotto from paris 🤝👋👋🤝

    • @MPCFlights
      @MPCFlights  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, ça va? :)

  • @chandrachurniyogi8394
    @chandrachurniyogi8394 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    complacency can be dangerous for any pilot . . .

  • @axelshares
    @axelshares 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good work amazing video

    • @MPCFlights
      @MPCFlights  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

    • @malcolmwhite6588
      @malcolmwhite6588 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MPCFlights I really like how you show a simulation of the accident aircraft beautifully flying in the clear skies somehow feels respectful and like a lovely tribute that it’s all back in one piece flying high again😊❤

  • @warungmaduracakmus
    @warungmaduracakmus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just wondering why cargo airlines are notorious w/ tired pilots on board? In passenger service i see the crew are well rested than cargo crew...

    • @deepthinker999
      @deepthinker999 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Greed - Follow the money trail for your answer.

  • @markcardwell
    @markcardwell 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow

  • @CAROLUSPRIMA
    @CAROLUSPRIMA 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You do a really good job. I don’t see how you could have made a better video about this crash. I also don’t understand why you don’t have more views and subscribers.
    Keep up the great work.

    • @MPCFlights
      @MPCFlights  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! I do have a main channel in spanish, Mauricio PC

    • @CAROLUSPRIMA
      @CAROLUSPRIMA 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MPCFlights Oh. I see. Thanks.

  • @HazyJ28
    @HazyJ28 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you using FSX or something else?

    • @GabbieGirl007
      @GabbieGirl007 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fsx or P3Dv4

    • @MPCFlights
      @MPCFlights  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is P3D

  • @richardshiggins704
    @richardshiggins704 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These 2 were well passed their sell by date irrespective of fatigue issues .

    • @Biigfish559
      @Biigfish559 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not really from what I see in a lot of these videos; I'm 60 myself and although I'd never fly a plane myself, I am surprised at how many late 50s-60+ year old pilot's there are, possibly mainly on cargo craft only but as long as the doc says they are fit, no probs!

    • @deepthinker999
      @deepthinker999 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Biigfish559 Because of COVID there is a pilot shortage. Experienced pilots took early retirement to get a buy out package.

  • @Tonystark-ey8oe
    @Tonystark-ey8oe 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey pal❤

    • @MPCFlights
      @MPCFlights  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey Tony!

  • @TheHaratashi
    @TheHaratashi 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Being tired had nothing to do with it - they were all idiots.

  • @Marrio49
    @Marrio49 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh they were tired were they? They didn’t have the sense enough to call in and request replacements. If they had survived, they should have been sued for negligence and incompetence with high fines.

  • @carlweitzel1753
    @carlweitzel1753 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How? Just how?

    • @deepthinker999
      @deepthinker999 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Overwook & Lack of rest. Greedy douche bag executives.