Perfect considerations. I'm totally in love with the 14m2 base (10 core CPU, 16 core GPU, 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD). I found the NEW base M2 pro for €200 more than the refurbished m1 pro (a bargain!). I was coming from an intel 2017, so I had to choose between m1 pro and m2 pro. I was initially influenced by the various negative reviews, then i realized that which made no sense to me. The slower SSD compared to the previous model is not a tragedy, both because it is still very fast and responsive, and because the faster speed of the previous model would ONLY be noticed if you transferring a very huge amounts of data to an external SSD (or from an external SSD) that was faster than the internal SSD... which NEVER happens! On the other hand, performances has definitely improved. I did a final cut export test using m1 pro 14" 10 core and m2 14" 10 core. One hour and 36 minutes of video, 4K prores: masks and various effects applied. Export completed about 40 minutes with m1 pro (very good result) and 26 minutes with m2 pro (amazing result)! Honestly, I don't know why this difference, but the result is this. Maybe even better render times. For me nothing else is needed. The rest is just the bulls*t.
Although I miss the thin MacBooks, I have to admit I’m proud of them for prioritizing functionality this time around. To give consumers a better experience and improve their system overall 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
why dont you get the air for the thin macbooks that you miss? you mean thin AND pro? See thats not ideal, stuffing power into a thin chassis.. hence the heating and performance issues of some of the past models, or some other aspect has to be sacrificed like battery life.
Today i just bought the Macbook Pro 14" M2 Pro chip 1TB 16GB [CPU 12 cores, GPU 19] . I bought it because it was really a steal deal from where i came from. its only cost around 1600$ if i converted to USD. Tomorrow my first Mac will arrive at my door step. i hope everything goes well for me and my experience.
Here comes the dilemma. M1 pro 14. vs M2 pro 14 - for a 300 euro difference in Europe. I don't have a super demanding workflow but I want to keep my MacBook for many years.
The M1Pro is a great machine, and as I say at the end of my video, you get 90% of the M2Pro. If money is not the real issue, than the M2 will have longer software support and better battery. In both cases you do not go wrong
Great machine, but I prefer the 16” because of its larger battery, you will get more of that stunning mini led display, better speakers, no thermal throttling. I have been using it for some time and I can assure everyone it is not heavy at all, the perfect size for pro users.
Macbooks don't need recycled at all. I don't know of anyone that gets rid of even the old ones. My old intel macbook pro 2017 is a Plex Server, my macbooks older than that are basically decorations. I'm never gettting rid of them :)
For me, over the last 30 years, 13 inch is too small for a laptop, 15 inch is great but no good for portability and so.... 14 inch is ideal. And then, we all need tons of performance, but we also want good battery life!! HERE is the problem that up until now has been unsolved. I have a M1 Mac Book Air base model - the performance & battery life are record breaking for a laptop!!. .. but I need equivalent performance to my desktop (iMac).... it looks like the 14" MB Pro is what I need, I will buy one this month.
I really wish Apple didn't weld the SSD to the computer :/ Sometimes new macbooks out of no where will send 9 to 12 volts straight to the SSD, completely frying it, and destroying the computer as a whole since the SSD is welded to it. The worst part is, since a computer that has had this happen doesn't start up, Apple has often refused to cover this massive engineering flaw under warranty, making it a total loss for anyone who does not have Apple Care +. So long story short, if you buy this computer (which is still a great computer) or any other MacBook, purchasing Apple Care + is an absolute must.
I'm using macbook pro 2.3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5. I really hate this keyboard...one of the biggest regret I have made purchasing this laptop. I hope the M2 solves the keyboard issue...Now I feel so oldskool. Anyone using such old models and upgrading to m2? Thoughts? only advantage of the old one its it being thin...how about weight...has it become a nuisance and something we just got to get used to?
One thing to add is Apple raised battery replacement prices on March 1 2023 in the US. Now it costs $249 USD to get the 14 and 16 Pro batteries replaced. 3-years of AppleCare+ for the 14 Pro is $279 USD. I’m sure that’s a coincidence 😂 It could be worth it to get the extended warranty then get the battery replaced before the 3-year mark.
Just to let everyone know the sand mark leather case isn’t that brilliant and I would suggest going with something such as the mous case which is a bit pricey but is not only support resistant but is also water resistant which can help protect a Mac if you travel with your Mac a lot
I can buy an M2 pro 16GB 1TB for €1800, $2000. Its barely used, is it a good deal ? Se said it was 3049 new so i was like yea that makes sense but now im doubting that.
I have a Late 2013 MacBook Pro and am looking to buy a new one. I also plan on opening an advertising agency in the future and will use the new Mac as the main Editing computer. Is the M2 Pro base model enough considering I’ll only be editing the videos on it and keep them on an external hard drive ?
Hi Adelina, first of all good luck with your advertising agency! I run my entirely TH-cam channel on the M2Pro base model, without an external hard drive, but with added storage
Go for the M1 Pro 14 inch if money is an issue if ur a student in college. ONLY go for the m2 pro 14 inch if money is no issue and that ur work flow is really demanding because the M1 Pro is more than good enough for most user. So in my opinion and a lot of TH-camrs opinion go for the m1pro
Actually M1 Pro 10C is even sligthly better than M2 Pro 10C at multicore testing (something like 12040 vs 12010). It is because M1 Pro 10C has more performance core than M2 Pro (8 vs 6). At single core, M2 Pro is better.
Great video, Dion! Currently have M1 MacBook Air (16GB and 1TB), and FCPX works wonderful except for long videos. Made a 30min recently: skipped frames and stopped exporting in the middle. Feels like I need an upgrade, but I'm a digital nomad who travels all the time so I'm thinking... M2 MacBook Pro base model? Or a maxed out M2 MacBook Air?
So you're telling me that as a graphic designer that mainly uses photoshop, illustrator, indesign & figma 16GB will be enough to run everything smoothly?
I bought an MB pro m2 14 like 3 days ago and love it, but when I scroll on google chrome or like Netflix or youtube, when the scrolling slows down the screen stutters maybe it’s the 120 hz ?
I really like this review. Not just a sum of all the specs, but really with a focus on practical and functional features, even such as the color preference. Absolutely a joy to watch, thank you. ❤
I have a late 2019 16 inch MacBook Pro mid speck. I was heavily contemplating the 14 or 16 inch pro this year but have to say, especially after this video, for somebody who edits a couple short videos a week, I'm going to go with the MacBook Air this round. I won't be saving much time considering 90% of my work is online and I'm looking forward to better portability. Still wish they had a 16in option for the Air as that would literally give me everything I need at a much more reasonable price.
Hello, new subscriber here. I haven’t had a laptop in over 10+ years but need one now that I’m doing more photography related travel. I’m interested in this one with 1 TB of storage and 32GB Ram (I think apple has a new name for it, lol). My questions: (1) would opting for the next higher level of GPU and CPU cores be overkill and/or a waste of $? I’m not a gamer but want to avoid the spinning wheel of death at all costs when several apps are open ( e.g. Ps, Lr, Nikon Raw editor, and various 3rd party software like Topaz, Nik, Portraiture; and also want to get into video editing eventually. (2) can this machine be used with a mouse or a stylus pen? I was never good at editing on a track pad. Enjoyed your video. Thank you.
Hi Rachel, 32 GB RAM and 1 TB of the M2Pro should be enough for your workflow, so no need to further upgrade. And yes, I highly recommend the Logitech Master MX Master. I am not aware of a mouse or stylus that work directly on the laptop. I do know that Bamboo might have some products that serve your needs
A real problem is when you find the M1 Pro 16 for 1800 at Amazon with 512GB and the M2 Pro 16 with 1TB for 2700, so heavy discounted but stil... 1000 euro difference. I don't know what to do.
Hi Julian, this is very personal. The M2 is overall better, but the M1 is a truly great device that will serve the needs of most for years to come. So then it boils down to the importance you attach to a bigger screen, taking into account that it weighs more as well.
@@DionMedia thanks man I appreciate the response. I went for a 2021 pro m1 16 inch. I want it mainly for my music production and nearly everywhere I looked, I heard this one was the sweet spot between cost and performance
I have the unbinned M1 Pro 10/16 cores, 16 GB RAM with 1 TB SSD. I think it"s amazing. I just got it, for $500.00 off. I think I made the right decision, in passing up the M2.Its minor upgrades in WIFI, HDMI, etc. mean little for most people, at this point in time. Also, I prefer the sound of the speakers on the M1, and like that it has a larger heat sink.
Hi Dion- question: what do you recommend among M2 pro or Ipad pro for “work from home”. Particularly web browsing and legal drafting in MS office. Thanks!
Bought M1 Pro refurbished in Calgary, returned after 1 month due to logic board issues. Errors: SOCD report detected. (AP watchdog expired) Bought brand new m2 pro yesterday. No more refurbished.
Hi Dion, is this base model (10/16) enough for the photo/video editing softwares you use? I watched a lot of conflicting reviews about needing/not needing higher gpu/cpu's, Im deciding between 10/16 and 12/19 ones and as I am only planning to edit videos from my new drone/ raw photos from a camera, cant really say which one is a better investment/wiser choice function/money wise. I would be doing the edits most likely not on a daily basis.. Thank you
10 16 will be not just enough for you but even to good. Go with 10 16 and you will not even be able to get to the limit with what you plan to use it for
@@Jomexo so does the better cpu/gpu apply only for heavy using of davinci,premier pro,final cut, photoshop etc - on multiple screens ? I will be using 1 external screen, prob the upcoming apple miniled or other 5k but max of 1 screen. I thought initially that 32g ram would do,but reading reviews on how gpu is important for these softwares got me unsure..
I’d prefer MacBook Pro 14-inch with M1 Pro 10/16 and 1tb SSD rather than 2023 base version. They are sold for the same price, CPU/GPU performance is comparable, but previous model has a better SSD speed.
funfact: 2021 wasn't last year 6:54 that was hilarious returning the 16 inch because of the much slower ssd in the base models, which you didn't mention I think. in the end i expected more for 3000€. im really afraid of the huge ass notch in the 14 inch, which is why is stick to my 2020 mb air for now.
Ok, right on two fronts. The M2Pro was supposed to come out last year, but I somehow “forgot” that we are already in 2023 :). Yes, the base model of this year has only 1 SSD of 512 GB which makes it indeed slower (not much, but it is slower) than the base model of 2021 with 2 SSDs of 256 GB each. This does not apply to the upgraded models. But, I should have mentioned it. As far as the notch is concerned, as long as Netflix is not producing a horror series called “The Notch”, I would not be to afraid
@@DionMedia ah yes that is true. the numbers i have seen say the 2023 ssds read speeds are 50% slower than the 2021 ones. id call half the speed much slower. not what i expect for paying higher prices. this problem should not exist. i meant apps with massive menus on top which wont fit on the left side of the notch. afraid of apps looking absolutely terrible. the dell xps can fit a webcam in a slim bezel for example. also im used to my OP7TPro since 2019 so every notch or punchhole is very weird for me. hehe yeah sounds more like a documentation. have a nice week✌
@bedinhooo I also think that this squared design is the best . It looks so good, premium and pro, and this ports is something that was missing on a pro notebook. Great video!!!
@@Evenaardez Yeah I think depends if you solely use the laptop or not. If you don't move around a lot and don't use an external screen. It's worth it for the 16in. If you like to move the laptop around or might just get a big monitor then why not the 14in.
Hi Jagger, good question, due to the nature of the dimming source of the M1Pro and M2Pro there is some ghosting in some areas, but unless you are looking for it, it will not be noticeable
@@DionMedia Hi Dion, thanks for replying. I like to have different wallpaper for my desktops. When I switch across desktops quickly, there is a noticeable amount of ghosting because the brightness of each wallpaper varies. It hit me the most when I switch across Excel windows. I just have to stay slow.
I am web and app developer .I need to run bunch of chrome tabs , 2 3 docker containers and emulators for app development . Will 16/512 be fine for me ? Or Should i go for higher spec?
Dion, I'm agonising about choosing my new MacBook. My goal is to edit heaps of FCP, using heaps layers , pro res and plugins like keyper . For the sake of future-proofing, I've been thinking about the following configuration: M2 16inch Pro Max 32GB ram and 30 GPU. Any recommendations? Thank you in advance!
Wow, with these specs you will rather future proof! Depending on the footage you use you might even turn the specs down but the configuration you describe is top of the top
@@DionMedia ,Oh, Dion, thanks for taking the time to reply. Highly appreciated. I know its kinda big investment but hoping it's worth. The reason for going MAX are its 2 video encoders. I'm happy with the 30 GPU instead of 38. However, someone else suggested that long term use relies on greater RAM (say 64GB) instead of getting extra SSD storage. As I don't work 3D, graphics or 8K video (for now), I thought that 32GB ram provides a sufficient future-proof configuration for Final Cut for the next 6 or 7 years. Thanks a lot for enlighten my 1st world dilemma 🙃
For environmental preservation, why are we still not able to send our M1s back to them to swap the internals if it's the same design still? Boggles my mind. I'm still rocking a pristine 17 inch macbook maxed out in late 2011. Someone would have to gift me one of these for me to upgrade. No thanks. What?!
Everything is soldered onto the board. System On chip design. You have to specify your specs at purchase.. Its because of this design that these macbooks can fit so much horsepower into such a small space. So it's a tradeoff. If you want ungradeability, get a Windows machine. If your still rocking a 2017 macbook, then imagine how long one of these would last! ,)
For someone concerned about the environment, it boggles the mind you'd want to swap M1 for M2 considering marginal performance gains. But I guess it's awesome to virtue signal, huh? :D
You're comparing both base model specs right? Will those minor performance gains be apparent when comparing the unbinned M1pro vs the base m2pro? Both 10/16 cores. I have a feeling it be be about the same
I’ll keep watching your videos as I’m keen to support a UK TH-camr. But you really lost me with the dead animal skins around the devices. I get that they are sponsoring but harming and killing animals to protect tech is just not necessary.
Hi Anthony, thanks for your comment and I appreciate you are following me. I will dive a bit deeper into this topic. You know your argument is part of a much wider debate. One of the arguments used by those companies who produce leather cases is that they use the byproduct of another (meat) industry and that therefor the leather used in leather cases is not the result of animals killed for the purpose of producing cases. I think this is a rather solid point. There are also Apple vegan leather cases. But, as said, I will get a bit deeper into this topic myself. I am no vegan, but just like most I do not tolerate animal abuse. Your argument will of course be that the whole meat industry is animal abuse, a point which to a large extent is true.
Sorry. I feel like these kinds of comments are not necessary. Everyone's different and everyone has the right to do what they want. I get your stance on animal cruelty and trust me I am against that type of behavior. (a) Your comment made it seem like your judging his character base on something he is doing that your against. He seems like chill person and is one of very few TH-camrs that I like watching for tech reviews. Let people do what they want without you having to tell them that their choice to use animal product is wrong. You don't have to tell everyone your beliefs. Keep them to your self. Also, I'm not saying that you are not going to educate anyone about animal crudity and what you believe, you should BUT there is time for everything. We need animals and animals need us. Not trying to bash you or anything but just wanted to make you think about that. 😊
Did you compare the entry level M1 Pro with 8/14c to the entry level M2 Pro 10/16c chip? Because that basically makes no sense. I am currently at the situation that 16GB ram is NOT a good recommendation for creative professionals because the unified memory quickly fills up once you pre render video footage. I need to swap out my 2021 M1Pro 16GB ram with a 2023 M2Pro with 32GB ram. Comparing the higher end M1 pro 10/16 with the entry level M2 pro 10/16 literally gives no performance gain. For the end user, it is basically the same chip for the same price with just a different name on it. Only the ports were improved on the 2023 model. Price is also the same if not a little more expensive. #Apple for invisible upselling - removing the cheap option and offering more expensive options that are at least 250$ each. Only the much more expensive M2 Pro with 12/19c will give the advertised 20% performance gain, which sounds like a "better chip selection with more functional cores" to me.
Hi Pascal, I appreciate your elaborate comment. Most people buy the base model, hence my decision to compare these two. I myself edit 4k every day and for me 16GB RAM is sufficient
I have a base M1 MBA that I use Parallels to run my Windows-only accounting programs. It runs okay but virtualization would be better with 16GB. I've gotten away with 256GB because of OneDrive but now I've only have 75GB remaining. Otherwise, my M1 MBA is still a dream even after two years. What would you recommend upgrading to? M1 MBP, M2 MBP or M2 MBA?
Hi Dion, first of all you look very smart in black. To me you are the best one to trust on honest critics and reviews of all these laptops, phones etc etc. Keep up. I like to follow you.
512Gb will have around 490Gb usable. you dont want to fill an SSD to the max, else it will cause drastic performance issues (should keep around 10% free). so in reality, your 512GB: you should be using around 440GB maximum. This allows space to decompress, pagefile growth
Hey Dion! The quality of the microphones really suprised me pleasantly. I'm going to Mexico for a year in September and plan to become an audio-visual mediadesigner after that (just for context) and I'm deeply considering getting the 14" M2 base model. If I'm honest to myself I know that the M1 Pro would be a great choice as well, but the better performance and battery life could make a little difference in the future. What do think about that? (awesome video by the way ^^)
Hi Daniel, first of all thanks for your compliment and good luck with your move. Exciting! Both devices are great but in view of your activities I would myself take the M2, that has a series of small advantages over the M1
Hi Jolly, I soon will do a comparison video, but the short answer is “no”, unless you are a heavy user including a lot of content creation (but even then the MB Pro 14 is a truly great machine
Honestly, I think that you forgot to tell us about the worse speed of SSDs for base models (512gb) versions. Also I read many articles and seen tests about how M2 Pro is NOT always the better and M1 Pro was almost the same. It is still based on the same technology process and overclocked.
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Perfect considerations.
I'm totally in love with the 14m2 base (10 core CPU, 16 core GPU, 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD). I found the NEW base M2 pro for €200 more than the refurbished m1 pro (a bargain!). I was coming from an intel 2017, so I had to choose between m1 pro and m2 pro.
I was initially influenced by the various negative reviews, then i realized that which made no sense to me. The slower SSD compared to the previous model is not a tragedy, both because it is still very fast and responsive, and because the faster speed of the previous model would ONLY be noticed if you transferring a very huge amounts of data to an external SSD (or from an external SSD) that was faster than the internal SSD... which NEVER happens!
On the other hand, performances has definitely improved.
I did a final cut export test using m1 pro 14" 10 core and m2 14" 10 core. One hour and 36 minutes of video, 4K prores: masks and various effects applied. Export completed about 40 minutes with m1 pro (very good result) and 26 minutes with m2 pro (amazing result)! Honestly, I don't know why this difference, but the result is this.
Maybe even better render times.
For me nothing else is needed. The rest is just the bulls*t.
Hi, thanks for sharing your insight!
wouldn't the uk price be lower than the us?
With proper currency conversion, yes. But Apple has their own currency conversion formula ;)
Although I miss the thin MacBooks, I have to admit I’m proud of them for prioritizing functionality this time around. To give consumers a better experience and improve their system overall 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Hi Immanuella, my point as well. And, somehow I got used to this model and I actually like it now a lot
@@DionMedia Dion I’m so glad to hear that you’re enjoying the new MacBook and you’ve now gotten now used to it!
@@DionMedia Dion I’m so glad to hear that you’re enjoying the new MacBook and you’ve now gotten now used to it!
why dont you get the air for the thin macbooks that you miss? you mean thin AND pro? See thats not ideal, stuffing power into a thin chassis.. hence the heating and performance issues of some of the past models, or some other aspect has to be sacrificed like battery life.
Thisbis actually thin its like t14s
Today i just bought the Macbook Pro 14" M2 Pro chip 1TB 16GB [CPU 12 cores, GPU 19] . I bought it because it was really a steal deal from where i came from. its only cost around 1600$ if i converted to USD. Tomorrow my first Mac will arrive at my door step. i hope everything goes well for me and my experience.
Here comes the dilemma. M1 pro 14. vs M2 pro 14 - for a 300 euro difference in Europe. I don't have a super demanding workflow but I want to keep my MacBook for many years.
The M1Pro is a great machine, and as I say at the end of my video, you get 90% of the M2Pro. If money is not the real issue, than the M2 will have longer software support and better battery. In both cases you do not go wrong
Great machine, but I prefer the 16” because of its larger battery, you will get more of that stunning mini led display, better speakers, no thermal throttling. I have been using it for some time and I can assure everyone it is not heavy at all, the perfect size for pro users.
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The latest version of my all-time favourite Mac!
Do you think the 16gb of RAM is enough for heavy video editing?
For me it is
Macbooks don't need recycled at all. I don't know of anyone that gets rid of even the old ones. My old intel macbook pro 2017 is a Plex Server, my macbooks older than that are basically decorations. I'm never gettting rid of them :)
That is the spirit!
For me, over the last 30 years, 13 inch is too small for a laptop, 15 inch is great but no good for portability and so.... 14 inch is ideal. And then, we all need tons of performance, but we also want good battery life!! HERE is the problem that up until now has been unsolved. I have a M1 Mac Book Air base model - the performance & battery life are record breaking for a laptop!!. .. but I need equivalent performance to my desktop (iMac).... it looks like the 14" MB Pro is what I need, I will buy one this month.
Hi, thanks for sharing your pov. I hope to soon review the 15 inch model!
I really wish Apple didn't weld the SSD to the computer :/ Sometimes new macbooks out of no where will send 9 to 12 volts straight to the SSD, completely frying it, and destroying the computer as a whole since the SSD is welded to it. The worst part is, since a computer that has had this happen doesn't start up, Apple has often refused to cover this massive engineering flaw under warranty, making it a total loss for anyone who does not have Apple Care +.
So long story short, if you buy this computer (which is still a great computer) or any other MacBook, purchasing Apple Care + is an absolute must.
thanks for sharing your experience
I'm using macbook pro 2.3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5. I really hate this keyboard...one of the biggest regret I have made purchasing this laptop. I hope the M2 solves the keyboard issue...Now I feel so oldskool.
Anyone using such old models and upgrading to m2? Thoughts? only advantage of the old one its it being thin...how about weight...has it become a nuisance and something we just got to get used to?
One thing to add is Apple raised battery replacement prices on March 1 2023 in the US. Now it costs $249 USD to get the 14 and 16 Pro batteries replaced. 3-years of AppleCare+ for the 14 Pro is $279 USD. I’m sure that’s a coincidence 😂 It could be worth it to get the extended warranty then get the battery replaced before the 3-year mark.
Hi Steven, thanks for sharing your thoughts!
I’m thinking of getting the M2 MacBook Pro 16gb and 1T ssd, over the MacBook M3 Pro 14 inch.
sounds like a great choice!
Just to let everyone know the sand mark leather case isn’t that brilliant and I would suggest going with something such as the mous case which is a bit pricey but is not only support resistant but is also water resistant which can help protect a Mac if you travel with your Mac a lot
Did you just get your mac from your suit? 😂
If you buy 20 Gant suit, you will get one MB for free :)
Me after watching this video: I don't want it... I need it! 😬
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everybody is video editing for the fucking sake
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the intro when he pulled the macbook out of his jacket just explained it all... genius 😂❤
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I can buy an M2 pro 16GB 1TB for €1800, $2000. Its barely used, is it a good deal ? Se said it was 3049 new so i was like yea that makes sense but now im doubting that.
Great vid. Particularly…the 199.00 battery program I had no idea about this
I have a Late 2013 MacBook Pro and am looking to buy a new one. I also plan on opening an advertising agency in the future and will use the new Mac as the main Editing computer. Is the M2 Pro base model enough considering I’ll only be editing the videos on it and keep them on an external hard drive ?
Hi Adelina, first of all good luck with your advertising agency! I run my entirely TH-cam channel on the M2Pro base model, without an external hard drive, but with added storage
Hi Dion, do you recommend M2 macs for electrical engineering(both studies and workplace)?
Hi, it is the best you can get. If you have the budget for it and your study requires heavy CPU and GPU tasks, then you might consider the M2
Go for the M1 Pro 14 inch if money is an issue if ur a student in college. ONLY go for the m2 pro 14 inch if money is no issue and that ur work flow is really demanding because the M1 Pro is more than good enough for most user. So in my opinion and a lot of TH-camrs opinion go for the m1pro
Thanks for your POV
Heck even m1 macbook is more than enough for most people.
Actually M1 Pro 10C is even sligthly better than M2 Pro 10C at multicore testing (something like 12040 vs 12010). It is because M1 Pro 10C has more performance core than M2 Pro (8 vs 6). At single core, M2 Pro is better.
Buy the M1 MacBooks instead, use them and then sell them when the M3/M4 chips under newer 4 or 3nm process comes to the MacBooks.
Great video, Dion! Currently have M1 MacBook Air (16GB and 1TB), and FCPX works wonderful except for long videos. Made a 30min recently: skipped frames and stopped exporting in the middle. Feels like I need an upgrade, but I'm a digital nomad who travels all the time so I'm thinking... M2 MacBook Pro base model? Or a maxed out M2 MacBook Air?
Go with the m1 pro 👍🏽
you could get it cheaper at Apples Refurbished. The M1 Pro is still a crazy Chip
yeah I went with a discounted new M1 Pro 10/16/1TB . The m2pro base performance difference is not enough for the price difference for me
@@benjiman818 very good decision!
Hi Sergio, you created a good discussion. I agree with @Benjamin Soares (I still have to do a comparison video, but this is my preliminary view)
So you're telling me that as a graphic designer that mainly uses photoshop, illustrator, indesign & figma 16GB will be enough to run everything smoothly?
Yes
so you dont feel you need the 32ram for professional use?
Correct, I prefer to upgrade the storage, as I edit internally.
I have the base 16 inch macbook pro with 1 tb of storage
Great!
I bought an MB pro m2 14 like 3 days ago and love it, but when I scroll on google chrome or like Netflix or youtube, when the scrolling slows down the screen stutters maybe it’s the 120 hz ?
Hi, that is a good point. It should not be the case. Try Safari instead of Chrome
Why the touch pad is getting bigger and the keyboard smaller
I really like this review. Not just a sum of all the specs, but really with a focus on practical and functional features, even such as the color preference. Absolutely a joy to watch, thank you. ❤
Your comment made my day, thank you so much! 😃
I have to say that I don’t miss the slim older MacBooks. And this is just incredible, thank you Dion. Great video as always!❤❤❤
Hi Rasheed, thanks! As always!
Love the review. What is the name of the leather case company?
Sandmarc
I have a late 2019 16 inch MacBook Pro mid speck. I was heavily contemplating the 14 or 16 inch pro this year but have to say, especially after this video, for somebody who edits a couple short videos a week, I'm going to go with the MacBook Air this round. I won't be saving much time considering 90% of my work is online and I'm looking forward to better portability. Still wish they had a 16in option for the Air as that would literally give me everything I need at a much more reasonable price.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and enjoy the MB Air. Excellent choice
There's a rumor that the next MacBook Air line will have a 15 inch model as well
Hello, new subscriber here.
I haven’t had a laptop in over 10+ years but need one now that I’m doing more photography related travel.
I’m interested in this one with 1 TB of storage and 32GB Ram (I think apple has a new name for it, lol).
My questions:
(1) would opting for the next higher level of GPU and CPU cores be overkill and/or a waste of $?
I’m not a gamer but want to avoid the spinning wheel of death at all costs when several apps are open ( e.g. Ps, Lr, Nikon Raw editor, and various 3rd party software like Topaz, Nik, Portraiture; and also want to get into video editing eventually.
(2) can this machine be used with a mouse or a stylus pen? I was never good at editing on a track pad.
Enjoyed your video. Thank you.
Hi Rachel, 32 GB RAM and 1 TB of the M2Pro should be enough for your workflow, so no need to further upgrade. And yes, I highly recommend the Logitech Master MX Master. I am not aware of a mouse or stylus that work directly on the laptop. I do know that Bamboo might have some products that serve your needs
A real problem is when you find the M1 Pro 16 for 1800 at Amazon with 512GB and the M2 Pro 16 with 1TB for 2700, so heavy discounted but stil... 1000 euro difference. I don't know what to do.
Can I BE TOO. 😊
Extremely Amazing, Awesome & Truly Wonderful Apple MacBook Pro M2 Review Video by you Sir......👽👻😉😛
Thanks Dante!
does upgrading ssd means
buying the another higher model or does the apple
adds/ replaces the base model with another ssd ,eg. 512- 2tb?
please reply
I’m wondering as well. Did you find out?
I have a conundrum from people. I have the option (for exactly same price) to get either M1 pro 16 inch, or m2 pro 14 inch. Which one?!?
Hi Julian, this is very personal. The M2 is overall better, but the M1 is a truly great device that will serve the needs of most for years to come. So then it boils down to the importance you attach to a bigger screen, taking into account that it weighs more as well.
@@DionMedia thanks man I appreciate the response. I went for a 2021 pro m1 16 inch. I want it mainly for my music production and nearly everywhere I looked, I heard this one was the sweet spot between cost and performance
I have the unbinned M1 Pro 10/16 cores, 16 GB RAM with 1 TB SSD. I think it"s amazing. I just got it, for $500.00 off. I think I made the right decision, in passing up the M2.Its minor upgrades in WIFI, HDMI, etc. mean little for most people, at this point in time. Also, I prefer the sound of the speakers on the M1, and like that it has a larger heat sink.
I am thinking of doing the same because of the deal of $600 off
How did you get $500 off?
@@yatanomusic ,sale before Christmas! I think you can find it for $400 off right now.
For most people, I still think m1 is a much better value.
Awesome content as usual Dion!
Thanks as always for your support Adnan
You didn't mention the M2 Pro natively supports two exernal displays, while the M1 Pro does not.
True
It's good for interior design students to study ?
Very informative video. Thank you for your research on this laptop.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Dion- question: what do you recommend among M2 pro or Ipad pro for “work from home”. Particularly web browsing and legal drafting in MS office. Thanks!
HI Rajeeta, I would go for the M2Pro, that will last you for many years. The combination iPad Pro and MS office is ok, but not ideal
Great Review👌Do you still think today 21june 2024 , that the m2 is a better choice for video editing? Thanks in advance for any advice!
Love your videos Dion keep up the great reviews!
Thanks!!
I came for the mac and stayed for the jacket. What jacket is that? And, nice computer too!
Hi Chris, the jacket is from Gant. Thanks :)
Would 1TB also be enough for occasional video editing?
Yes, for sure.
Bought M1 Pro refurbished in Calgary, returned after 1 month due to logic board issues. Errors: SOCD report detected. (AP watchdog expired)
Bought brand new m2 pro yesterday. No more refurbished.
Hi Dion, is this base model (10/16) enough for the photo/video editing softwares you use? I watched a lot of conflicting reviews about needing/not needing higher gpu/cpu's, Im deciding between 10/16 and 12/19 ones and as I am only planning to edit videos from my new drone/ raw photos from a camera, cant really say which one is a better investment/wiser choice function/money wise. I would be doing the edits most likely not on a daily basis.. Thank you
10 16 is enough for you
10 16 will be not just enough for you but even to good. Go with 10 16 and you will not even be able to get to the limit with what you plan to use it for
@@Jomexo so does the better cpu/gpu apply only for heavy using of davinci,premier pro,final cut, photoshop etc - on multiple screens ? I will be using 1 external screen, prob the upcoming apple miniled or other 5k but max of 1 screen. I thought initially that 32g ram would do,but reading reviews on how gpu is important for these softwares got me unsure..
Hi Martina, see discussion below
you should compare the 10 core M1 Pro vs 10 core M2 pro, free content. Also are your comparisons between the base models?
Hi, I just did my comparison. It is live since an hour
I’d prefer MacBook Pro 14-inch with M1 Pro 10/16 and 1tb SSD rather than 2023 base version. They are sold for the same price, CPU/GPU performance is comparable, but previous model has a better SSD speed.
I just got this , super 🔥
Good
watching your M1 pro and this m2 pro back to back makes it look like nothing really changed
funfact: 2021 wasn't last year
6:54 that was hilarious
returning the 16 inch because of the much slower ssd in the base models, which you didn't mention I think. in the end i expected more for 3000€.
im really afraid of the huge ass notch in the 14 inch, which is why is stick to my 2020 mb air for now.
Ok, right on two fronts. The M2Pro was supposed to come out last year, but I somehow “forgot” that we are already in 2023 :).
Yes, the base model of this year has only 1 SSD of 512 GB which makes it indeed slower (not much, but it is slower) than the base model of 2021 with 2 SSDs of 256 GB each. This does not apply to the upgraded models. But, I should have mentioned it. As far as the notch is concerned, as long as Netflix is not producing a horror series called “The Notch”, I would not be to afraid
@@DionMedia ah yes that is true. the numbers i have seen say the 2023 ssds read speeds are 50% slower than the 2021 ones. id call half the speed much slower. not what i expect for paying higher prices. this problem should not exist.
i meant apps with massive menus on top which wont fit on the left side of the notch. afraid of apps looking absolutely terrible. the dell xps can fit a webcam in a slim bezel for example. also im used to my OP7TPro since 2019 so every notch or punchhole is very weird for me.
hehe yeah sounds more like a documentation.
have a nice week✌
Great video Dion! You're a very
clear speaker.
Thanks Ed!
Awesome real review not comparison from start to finish like many youtubers
Thank you so much 🙂
can anybody tell me what is the 3rd laptop on that table on the video?
@bedinhooo
I also think that this squared design is the best . It looks so good, premium and pro, and this ports is something that was missing on a pro notebook. Great video!!!
Thanks Brenda
Yo that intro trippy af XD
that was out of pocket ( literally )
i would still wait for 3nm M3
:)
Very informative, thank you
My pleasure
So why did you choose 14 inch instead of 16 inch?
Hi, good question. I do this for better portability and better price. I work with a desktop setup, so when needed I have the (much) bigger screen.
@@DionMedia Thank you, I am just so conflicted because it has a better battery life, speakers, slightly better performance, and bigger screen.
@@Evenaardez Yeah I think depends if you solely use the laptop or not. If you don't move around a lot and don't use an external screen. It's worth it for the 16in. If you like to move the laptop around or might just get a big monitor then why not the 14in.
Awesome review, Dion. Thank you
My pleasure!
Do you notice display ghosting on your unit?
Hi Jagger, good question, due to the nature of the dimming source of the M1Pro and M2Pro there is some ghosting in some areas, but unless you are looking for it, it will not be noticeable
@@DionMedia Hi Dion, thanks for replying. I like to have different wallpaper for my desktops. When I switch across desktops quickly, there is a noticeable amount of ghosting because the brightness of each wallpaper varies. It hit me the most when I switch across Excel windows. I just have to stay slow.
God bless everyone everything.
I am web and app developer .I need to run bunch of chrome tabs , 2 3 docker containers and emulators for app development . Will 16/512 be fine for me ? Or Should i go for higher spec?
as i buyed my mac pro m2 pro chip 1 week ago it was best as i am also using the same purpose of what you"ve has said
Thank you ...I will buy soon
Am I the only one that saw our man pulling out Mac from his blazer 😂
No, more did :) But thanks for appreciating
M3 out soon!
Yes, I am also waiting anxiously
Your vibe is just amazing bro, should i buy this mac right now as well ?
Thanks for the vibe remark :). The purchase decision is of course entirely up to you
Dion, I'm agonising about choosing my new MacBook. My goal is to edit heaps of FCP, using heaps layers , pro res and plugins like keyper . For the sake of future-proofing, I've been thinking about the following configuration: M2 16inch Pro Max 32GB ram and 30 GPU. Any recommendations? Thank you in advance!
Wow, with these specs you will rather future proof! Depending on the footage you use you might even turn the specs down but the configuration you describe is top of the top
@@DionMedia ,Oh, Dion, thanks for taking the time to reply. Highly appreciated. I know its kinda big investment but hoping it's worth. The reason for going MAX are its 2 video encoders. I'm happy with the 30 GPU instead of 38. However, someone else suggested that long term use relies on greater RAM (say 64GB) instead of getting extra SSD storage. As I don't work 3D, graphics or 8K video (for now), I thought that 32GB ram provides a sufficient future-proof configuration for Final Cut for the next 6 or 7 years. Thanks a lot for enlighten my 1st world dilemma 🙃
I like this
Dion thanks for the review, the information was very helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice suit Dion! 😍🖤
Thanks, from Gant
M1 Pro has better speakers?
The m2 can fit in jacket pockets 😅😅
:), depends on the size of the pockets :)
For environmental preservation, why are we still not able to send our M1s back to them to swap the internals if it's the same design still? Boggles my mind. I'm still rocking a pristine 17 inch macbook maxed out in late 2011. Someone would have to gift me one of these for me to upgrade. No thanks. What?!
Everything is soldered onto the board. System On chip design. You have to specify your specs at purchase.. Its because of this design that these macbooks can fit so much horsepower into such a small space. So it's a tradeoff. If you want ungradeability, get a Windows machine. If your still rocking a 2017 macbook, then imagine how long one of these would last! ,)
For someone concerned about the environment, it boggles the mind you'd want to swap M1 for M2 considering marginal performance gains.
But I guess it's awesome to virtue signal, huh? :D
Love your videos! Keep it up :)
Hi Ethan, thanks!
Love the starting scene where you get the Macbook Pro out of your jacket hahahah
:)
Great video
Well presented video. Informative.
Thank you!
Best review 😊
Thank you 😃
May I ask you, do Macs have Airdrop or Airplay? I never use Mac before.
yes they do! That's the great thing about having multiple items in the Apple ecosystem. file sharing is awesome between a mac and iPhones
also has find my, and syncs notes between your iphone
Yes
@@fsdafas749 That is great! I wish I be able to afford a Mac one day.
You're comparing both base model specs right? Will those minor performance gains be apparent when comparing the unbinned M1pro vs the base m2pro? Both 10/16 cores. I have a feeling it be be about the same
Hi Benjamin, the comparison will come up, but I expect that your gut feeling might be more or less correct
hmm
I’ll keep watching your videos as I’m keen to support a UK TH-camr. But you really lost me with the dead animal skins around the devices. I get that they are sponsoring but harming and killing animals to protect tech is just not necessary.
Hi Anthony, thanks for your comment and I appreciate you are following me. I will dive a bit deeper into this topic. You know your argument is part of a much wider debate. One of the arguments used by those companies who produce leather cases is that they use the byproduct of another (meat) industry and that therefor the leather used in leather cases is not the result of animals killed for the purpose of producing cases. I think this is a rather solid point. There are also Apple vegan leather cases. But, as said, I will get a bit deeper into this topic myself. I am no vegan, but just like most I do not tolerate animal abuse. Your argument will of course be that the whole meat industry is animal abuse, a point which to a large extent is true.
Sorry. I feel like these kinds of comments are not necessary. Everyone's different and everyone has the right to do what they want. I get your stance on animal cruelty and trust me I am against that type of behavior. (a) Your comment made it seem like your judging his character base on something he is doing that your against.
He seems like chill person and is one of very few TH-camrs that I like watching for tech reviews.
Let people do what they want without you having to tell them that their choice to use animal product is wrong. You don't have to tell everyone your beliefs. Keep them to your self. Also, I'm not saying that you are not going to educate anyone about animal crudity and what you believe, you should BUT there is time for everything.
We need animals and animals need us. Not trying to bash you or anything but just wanted to make you think about that. 😊
Did you compare the entry level M1 Pro with 8/14c to the entry level M2 Pro 10/16c chip? Because that basically makes no sense. I am currently at the situation that 16GB ram is NOT a good recommendation for creative professionals because the unified memory quickly fills up once you pre render video footage. I need to swap out my 2021 M1Pro 16GB ram with a 2023 M2Pro with 32GB ram. Comparing the higher end M1 pro 10/16 with the entry level M2 pro 10/16 literally gives no performance gain. For the end user, it is basically the same chip for the same price with just a different name on it. Only the ports were improved on the 2023 model. Price is also the same if not a little more expensive. #Apple for invisible upselling - removing the cheap option and offering more expensive options that are at least 250$ each. Only the much more expensive M2 Pro with 12/19c will give the advertised 20% performance gain, which sounds like a "better chip selection with more functional cores" to me.
Hi Pascal, I appreciate your elaborate comment. Most people buy the base model, hence my decision to compare these two. I myself edit 4k every day and for me 16GB RAM is sufficient
❤
Can you adjust the fan? Thanks
Yes, you can, but the recommendations by Apple is not to do so, as the fan adapts automatically
@@DionMedia ok, thanks for the info, I was just used to my old MacBookPro- I may get a cooling mat.
I have a base M1 MBA that I use Parallels to run my Windows-only accounting programs. It runs okay but virtualization would be better with 16GB. I've gotten away with 256GB because of OneDrive but now I've only have 75GB remaining. Otherwise, my M1 MBA is still a dream even after two years. What would you recommend upgrading to? M1 MBP, M2 MBP or M2 MBA?
Hi Mark, thanks for your question. As your programs are not to intensive I would lean towards the M2 MBA + upgrade the RAM
Hi Dion, first of all you look very smart in black. To me you are the best one to trust on honest critics and reviews of all these laptops, phones etc etc. Keep up. I like to follow you.
Hi Yvonne, thank you for you compliment and your continued support. Very important for me
Hello how much free space in m2 Mbp 512gb? At clean setup ?
512Gb will have around 490Gb usable. you dont want to fill an SSD to the max, else it will cause drastic performance issues (should keep around 10% free). so in reality, your 512GB: you should be using around 440GB maximum. This allows space to decompress, pagefile growth
@@DionMedia thansk for your answer.
I am buying a 12c 19 gpu 1tb 32gb rma so I can emulate Pokemon emerald
Sounds great to me!
Hey Dion! The quality of the microphones really suprised me pleasantly.
I'm going to Mexico for a year in September and plan to become an audio-visual mediadesigner after that (just for context) and I'm deeply considering getting the 14" M2 base model.
If I'm honest to myself I know that the M1 Pro would be a great choice as well, but the better performance and battery life could make a little difference in the future.
What do think about that?
(awesome video by the way ^^)
Hi Daniel, first of all thanks for your compliment and good luck with your move. Exciting! Both devices are great but in view of your activities I would myself take the M2, that has a series of small advantages over the M1
@@DionMedia Thanks for the advice ^^
In your opinion, if I already have the MacBook Pro 14" with the M1 chip in it, is it worth upgrading to the M2 Pro version? Thanks!
Hi Jolly, I soon will do a comparison video, but the short answer is “no”, unless you are a heavy user including a lot of content creation (but even then the MB Pro 14 is a truly great machine
@@DionMedia thank you!
Honestly, I think that you forgot to tell us about the worse speed of SSDs for base models (512gb) versions. Also I read many articles and seen tests about how M2 Pro is NOT always the better and M1 Pro was almost the same. It is still based on the same technology process and overclocked.
You chose the cost down base model……😂
Well, not really :)