A moment of your time, please: 1. I never once claimed to be an expert on IP laws or tried to explain IP laws to anyone. I'm just posting my findings. What little ones are left after all these years. I don’t expect game devs to respond back to me because I don't have a following and some of them have distanced themselves from the internet, the industry, or this 20-year-old game entirely. That makes my work much harder because of it. I sometimes mess up facts because of it. Even when I double or triple check. 2. The issue isn't "DURR HOW DO IP LAW WERK?" That’s the straw man that keeps getting shoved in my face. The issue is Sega's double standards when it came to handling these C&Ds. SEGA ENCOURAGED FAN GAMES BEFORE AND AFTER SORR, but they pick and choose which ones get shut down sometimes. Some Sega fan games thrive and some get taken down. THAT’S THE ISSUE. The Taxman made a non-profit Sonic fan game and Sega let him handle the mobile Sonic ports and Sonic Mania (a damn fine sonic game too). The SORR team makes a non-profit SOR fan game and Sega shut them down. There are more instances of certain Sega fan games getting shut down over the years. I could've gone more into detail about it, but this is a review of the SORR game itself. This is a gaming channel after all. SORR is, and has always been, a freeware game. Don't believe me? Here: sorr.forumotion.net/t86-sorr-project-history 3. BTW, the "unreasonable demands" was an obscure Space Ghost: Coast 2 Coast reference. Props to anyone who gets it. I excel in making references that only 5 people on earth will get. That's my fault. And if you still feel the need to insult me or leave a thesis paper in the comments, don’t worry. This channel is doing just fine without you. I just wanted to honor a request from one of my subscribers. Nothing more.
PSA - I absolutely love SORR, but 5.2 is pretty terrible as the AI is insane and irritating. It came from nowhere and it's unclear how it's linked to 5.1, but I would recommend 5.1 to everyone and 5.2 to no-one as it is far too hard.
A very important thing to note is that Christian Whitehead was NOT hired BECAUSE of his fangames. He pitched his Retro Engine remake of Sonic CD to Sega. That pitch impressed them and so they hired him to do the Remakes on mobile. That in turn gave him a good name and good will from sega. So than the team pitched Sonic Mania to Sega. Point is the circumstances of SORR and Mania are completely different. It still is weird that Sega shut it down and kinda shitty too but they didnt just hire Christian Whitehead to make the mobile remakes because they saw "Retro Sonic" (the Sonic fangame the retro engine was made for if i am not mistaken)
I've lost track of how many times I've played through this fan remake. It literally never gets old with all of the characters, paths you can take and things you can unlock. So fun.
Streets of Rage Remake is the definitive Streets of Rage game. Yes, I even consider this better than Streets of Rage 4, even after Mr. X Nightmare DLC. This is to me, the best beat 'em up game ever made.
Did you guys played final fight ultimate lns?, I thougt that sor remake was the best fan game and now I guess it is the second. Whatever they are the 2 best beat'em up games ever made by far for fans
Totally agree. I’ve tried to play streets of rage four recently after finally acquiring it and it’s just no comparison to remake. I played remake for like 12 years straight though, so maybe I’m just used to that lol. 4 is definitely good but man it’s just lacking something imo
Tons of easter eggs. Double dragon 2 nes helicopter stage. Train stage inspired by turtles in time. SOR4 got inspired by it and added it . The Tomato store from shenmue and the music where you unlock the extras is the tomato store theme. Definitelly a sega fan's dream
I'm glad you covered SOR REMAKE! This game is so good! If SOR4 never came out and we were left with this game, I woulda been okay with this. It would be great if Sega made this available for the current systems.
18:18 The game also gives you the ability to change out soundtracks if you have your own music. A man by the username of Iceferno has produced a few albums of original SOR styled music that people can use in Remake.
oh yes the remixes by Iceferno on s0rr remake are fiere. I can't post links because of scammers and bots used to do that, but search "Gardeweg - All I Want (Streets Of Rage 3 Remix)"
Streets of Rage Remake is easily the best fangame I've played, I love the "compilation/remake" way in that it integrates content from the original trilogy in a seamless manner, the amount of content is incredible. My favorite feature is the ability play with SoR 1&2 versions of characters, all with different moves and stats. If this game came out in recent years it would have garnered so much attention, so it's great to see videos like these bringing more exposure to it.
I totally agree with this. I was sitting here thinking the other day that I really think this is my favorite game of all time. I’ve put well over 1000 hours in it in the last 12 years. That’s OCD levels of insane for a beat ‘Em up. And I still play through it like 5x a week on my Steam Deck. Based on that it’s GOTTA be my favorite game ever lol
I don't know if i forgot to tweak the difficulty balance or something when i last played it, because i remember playing the game just fine and then the final boss (Shiva and Mr. X, the SoR2 route) knocked ALL of my remaining lives and continues. Like, the difficulty spike was THAT obnoxiously excessive. Kinda put me off from playing it more, but i still want to give it another shot. EDIT: so update, i managed to get much more comfortable playing V5.2, basically i copied the option configurations i had from 5.1 and also *left one of the new balancing options from v5.2 set to "ORIGINAL",* because if you set it to "BALANCED" it weakens some of the player characters, particularly the SoR3 versions which i like to use the most, so that's probably what was messing my experience.
Thank you so much for this underrated and detailed overview of the game. I nearly forgot about this game's existence due to the legal reasons. Despite the time needed for unlocking some content, it looks worth it considering how much features was added. I'm more than tempted to try this game out now.
From what I remember, there was a big change in the latest version with the AI from 5.1. The previous made the ai smarter depending on the difficulty, whereas the current one, even on easy, the enemy is super smart. It's been 3 years, so I can't be sure, but I remember it was polarizing. At least they have an ai tool to tweak that. That's the best way to solve any issues with your game; add some damn options.
I thought something was up when the enemies started dodging my attacks on normal around the 15:23 mark. It's like some kind of input reading or something. I gotta give props to the SORR team for making competent and challenging AI. And we definitely have plenty of options to tweak the AI as we see fit.
GrooveMaster303 gave his permission for us to use his music in our feature length Streets of Rage Fan Film “Rage: Unleashed” coming out later this year 😁 SOR is the best franchise Sega ever created and SORR is unbelievably good.
@@8StringFuryGaming Thanks dude 😄👊🏻 We’ve also got the legendary IceFerno on board as well! 😁🔥 Search “Streets of rage movie film teaser” and click the thumbnail with Estel 👍🙂 I’d love to hear your thoughts!
20:18 is why this game is worth its weight in gold and held in high regard. Sega had one job to bring streets of rage back yet opted for the "4th" instalment (which I'll likely never play) and then the weak-ass copyright takedown. watching this review re-sparked my interest in playing this again. the only complaint I have is there have been some instances where my entire progress has been wiped booting the game up but nothing in this game is game-breaking. I wish it was on steam or something similar. Top retrospective and review. your content is often so good I revisit your videos on occasion.
I followed their development up through version 1.2.1, or whatever the first 'official' post Sega takedown edition was. Didn't know there was a new build as little as three years ago. Gotta go get it. Great video!
The only music theme then is not included in the remake is The Poets III from Bare Knuckle 3 and is not a suprise because that theme is lost media (even the original composers forgot this theme then they not included in the live concerts). I discovered that theme by accident in youtube then is actually a mix with Blood in the floor by Michael Jackson and then i finded the original theme and a remix with Pokemon Black & White 1&2 setup but the channel then uploaded that videos was deleted so... is more lost media then anything.
What is the name of the song in 1st minute of video, and the song at 19:28? Really good video. I agreed with everything you said which is rare to happen for me. I also love the extra information you put in the video, like when you mention the names of some of the artists for the music. Really good and rare to see info like that in moat videos.
Its incredible this is available for free and other companies dare to sell things like Anthem for 60 dollars...... It would be fantastic to see this released on ps4......
Great video SoR remake was amazing its a shame I think Sega maybe could have done something similar to Sonic Mania with SoR remake. I really appreciate and thank you to all the people that made and contributed to SoR remake such amazing talented people
Also last thing, Glad to find another big fan of SORR . Super under rated game and really inspiring to make your own passion fan game project like all of these guys did.
One of the greatest games I have ever played. Period. So much variety. So much to enjoy. I'd love to play it for my channel but I'm honestly worried Sega might do a Sega and claim the video. They seem to have a REAL problem with this one.
Great video!!!! You got me playing this again =D. You should check out streets of rage 2 New era by gsaurus and Final Fight LNS by CON 5 DUROS. They're doing great work for us beat um ups players. Why would they add a command moves for the 3 blitz moves? When you can't execute/buffer the inputs during the auto combo... You have to stop attacking. Hit the combo button, then quickly down, forward, up to do a blitz. During that time your just standing there like a toe tickling psychopath, while all the enemies beat you up. It's just so strange that you have to hit button. Then do the inputs.
It doesn't look bad in 4:3 with scanlines, but then when you compare it to the originals in retroarch with biliner filtering and reshade it looks...terrible. It's a shame cause everything else about it is god tier.
I used 2 versions of Slow Moon. One in the middle and one at the end. Here's both of them: th-cam.com/video/GQgek_ycK8g/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/YNBdv5Brd4c/w-d-xo.html
Having so much trouble getting the game. Help anyone? Just got a PC too 😞 Update: downloaded it and it works Great but discord and opera GX aren’t fully showing the window anymore
It could be possible. When I was researching, the sources I found claimed she originated from the Remake. This tweet I found from the Streets of Rage Saga Twitter account also claims she was first seen in SOR Remake. It's also possible that I could've gotten some bad info. twitter.com/SagaStreets/status/1475696378940571650
The fan games are always better because they fans actually give a shit and are passionate about what they make. If these game companies had any brains whatsoever, they'd just hire these fan creators at a discount and save money while ALSO making more money with a better product! But because they're insecure untalented losers, they have to send cease and desists that ultimately end up failing. Yes, Streets of Rage Remake is THE best Streets of Rage game existing out there! Far better than Streets of Rage 4 (which I own) and worth $30 or more, if it was an official game. It's THAT good! Its bizarre that it's free, while Streets of Rage 4 cost money and had that garbage pseudo-anime art style attached to it.
![Streets of Rage 3/Bare Knuckle 3 [#Sega Genesis Review]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gWNPKg4md_g/mqdefault.jpg)
![Streets of Rage 3/Bare Knuckle 3 [#Sega Genesis Review]](/img/tr.png)
A moment of your time, please:
1. I never once claimed to be an expert on IP laws or tried to explain IP laws to anyone. I'm just posting my findings. What little ones are left after all these years. I don’t expect game devs to respond back to me because I don't have a following and some of them have distanced themselves from the internet, the industry, or this 20-year-old game entirely. That makes my work much harder because of it. I sometimes mess up facts because of it. Even when I double or triple check.
2. The issue isn't "DURR HOW DO IP LAW WERK?" That’s the straw man that keeps getting shoved in my face. The issue is Sega's double standards when it came to handling these C&Ds. SEGA ENCOURAGED FAN GAMES BEFORE AND AFTER SORR, but they pick and choose which ones get shut down sometimes. Some Sega fan games thrive and some get taken down. THAT’S THE ISSUE. The Taxman made a non-profit Sonic fan game and Sega let him handle the mobile Sonic ports and Sonic Mania (a damn fine sonic game too). The SORR team makes a non-profit SOR fan game and Sega shut them down. There are more instances of certain Sega fan games getting shut down over the years. I could've gone more into detail about it, but this is a review of the SORR game itself. This is a gaming channel after all. SORR is, and has always been, a freeware game. Don't believe me? Here: sorr.forumotion.net/t86-sorr-project-history
3. BTW, the "unreasonable demands" was an obscure Space Ghost: Coast 2 Coast reference. Props to anyone who gets it. I excel in making references that only 5 people on earth will get. That's my fault. And if you still feel the need to insult me or leave a thesis paper in the comments, don’t worry. This channel is doing just fine without you. I just wanted to honor a request from one of my subscribers. Nothing more.
PSA - I absolutely love SORR, but 5.2 is pretty terrible as the AI is insane and irritating. It came from nowhere and it's unclear how it's linked to 5.1, but I would recommend 5.1 to everyone and 5.2 to no-one as it is far too hard.
A very important thing to note is that Christian Whitehead was NOT hired BECAUSE of his fangames. He pitched his Retro Engine remake of Sonic CD to Sega. That pitch impressed them and so they hired him to do the Remakes on mobile. That in turn gave him a good name and good will from sega. So than the team pitched Sonic Mania to Sega. Point is the circumstances of SORR and Mania are completely different. It still is weird that Sega shut it down and kinda shitty too but they didnt just hire Christian Whitehead to make the mobile remakes because they saw "Retro Sonic" (the Sonic fangame the retro engine was made for if i am not mistaken)
I've lost track of how many times I've played through this fan remake. It literally never gets old with all of the characters, paths you can take and things you can unlock. So fun.
Streets of Rage Remake is the definitive Streets of Rage game. Yes, I even consider this better than Streets of Rage 4, even after Mr. X Nightmare DLC. This is to me, the best beat 'em up game ever made.
Did you guys played final fight ultimate lns?, I thougt that sor remake was the best fan game and now I guess it is the second. Whatever they are the 2 best beat'em up games ever made by far for fans
Totally agree. I’ve tried to play streets of rage four recently after finally acquiring it and it’s just no comparison to remake. I played remake for like 12 years straight though, so maybe I’m just used to that lol. 4 is definitely good but man it’s just lacking something imo
Tons of easter eggs. Double dragon 2 nes helicopter stage. Train stage inspired by turtles in time. SOR4 got inspired by it and added it . The Tomato store from shenmue and the music where you unlock the extras is the tomato store theme. Definitelly a sega fan's dream
I'm glad you covered SOR REMAKE! This game is so good! If SOR4 never came out and we were left with this game, I woulda been okay with this. It would be great if Sega made this available for the current systems.
so true i would be playing the remake non stop because i always watched video of remakes sor remake and characters gameplay
I had no idea about the shop being able to be stolen from. Between everything else, this game was a long arduous work of wizardry.
18:18 The game also gives you the ability to change out soundtracks if you have your own music. A man by the username of Iceferno has produced a few albums of original SOR styled music that people can use in Remake.
Cool. This really is the gift that doesn’t stop giving.
oh yes the remixes by Iceferno on s0rr remake are fiere. I can't post links because of scammers and bots used to do that, but search
"Gardeweg - All I Want (Streets Of Rage 3 Remix)"
Sega can't be upset that's there falt for taking forever to make a Streets of Rage 4.
Streets of Rage Remake is easily the best fangame I've played, I love the "compilation/remake" way in that it integrates content from the original trilogy in a seamless manner, the amount of content is incredible. My favorite feature is the ability play with SoR 1&2 versions of characters, all with different moves and stats.
If this game came out in recent years it would have garnered so much attention, so it's great to see videos like these bringing more exposure to it.
Could be my fave video game of all time.
I'd love to have a crack at some of the soundtrack if it ever gets another update.
I totally agree with this. I was sitting here thinking the other day that I really think this is my favorite game of all time. I’ve put well over 1000 hours in it in the last 12 years. That’s OCD levels of insane for a beat ‘Em up. And I still play through it like 5x a week on my Steam Deck. Based on that it’s GOTTA be my favorite game ever lol
@@chiarosuburekeni9325 defo... just wish it had online capabilities
@@bibby5000 man that would be insane.
Remember people. If the non official version of a product is better than the official it’s the companies fault 😈
SOR Remake is fantastic!
And when SOR 5 is coming along the way, it could be a nonstop masterpiece!
Couldn't be happier with the algorithm for recommending me your video
Good stuff, brother
Thanks!
I don't know if i forgot to tweak the difficulty balance or something when i last played it, because i remember playing the game just fine and then the final boss (Shiva and Mr. X, the SoR2 route) knocked ALL of my remaining lives and continues. Like, the difficulty spike was THAT obnoxiously excessive. Kinda put me off from playing it more, but i still want to give it another shot.
EDIT: so update, i managed to get much more comfortable playing V5.2, basically i copied the option configurations i had from 5.1 and also *left one of the new balancing options from v5.2 set to "ORIGINAL",* because if you set it to "BALANCED" it weakens some of the player characters, particularly the SoR3 versions which i like to use the most, so that's probably what was messing my experience.
play version 5.1, they unnecessarily inflated the difficulty in 5.2
I don't get why some in the comments need to hate on SoR4 to be able to admire the Remake, they're two awesome games in their own right.
THE PIXEL DOUBLE FEATURE???? YOU'RE AMAZING MAN!
Thank you so much for this underrated and detailed overview of the game. I nearly forgot about this game's existence due to the legal reasons. Despite the time needed for unlocking some content, it looks worth it considering how much features was added. I'm more than tempted to try this game out now.
From what I remember, there was a big change in the latest version with the AI from 5.1. The previous made the ai smarter depending on the difficulty, whereas the current one, even on easy, the enemy is super smart. It's been 3 years, so I can't be sure, but I remember it was polarizing. At least they have an ai tool to tweak that. That's the best way to solve any issues with your game; add some damn options.
I thought something was up when the enemies started dodging my attacks on normal around the 15:23 mark. It's like some kind of input reading or something. I gotta give props to the SORR team for making competent and challenging AI. And we definitely have plenty of options to tweak the AI as we see fit.
GrooveMaster303 gave his permission for us to use his music in our feature length Streets of Rage Fan Film “Rage: Unleashed” coming out later this year 😁
SOR is the best franchise Sega ever created and SORR is unbelievably good.
That's awesome!
@@8StringFuryGaming Thanks dude 😄👊🏻
We’ve also got the legendary IceFerno on board as well! 😁🔥
Search “Streets of rage movie film teaser” and click the thumbnail with Estel 👍🙂
I’d love to hear your thoughts!
20:18 is why this game is worth its weight in gold and held in high regard. Sega had one job to bring streets of rage back yet opted for the "4th" instalment (which I'll likely never play) and then the weak-ass copyright takedown. watching this review re-sparked my interest in playing this again. the only complaint I have is there have been some instances where my entire progress has been wiped booting the game up but nothing in this game is game-breaking. I wish it was on steam or something similar. Top retrospective and review. your content is often so good I revisit your videos on occasion.
I followed their development up through version 1.2.1, or whatever the first 'official' post Sega takedown edition was. Didn't know there was a new build as little as three years ago. Gotta go get it. Great video!
The punch loops can be fixed by setting the options from Sor2 style combo to Sor3 style combo.
Doing the lords work sir.
What a fantastic job. Great Remake.👏👏
It is crime that u don’t have more subs. Great video and delivery, brother.
The only music theme then is not included in the remake is The Poets III from Bare Knuckle 3 and is not a suprise because that theme is lost media (even the original composers forgot this theme then they not included in the live concerts). I discovered that theme by accident in youtube then is actually a mix with Blood in the floor by Michael Jackson and then i finded the original theme and a remix with Pokemon Black & White 1&2 setup but the channel then uploaded that videos was deleted so... is more lost media then anything.
What is the name of the song in 1st minute of video, and the song at 19:28?
Really good video. I agreed with everything you said which is rare to happen for me. I also love the extra information you put in the video, like when you mention the names of some of the artists for the music. Really good and rare to see info like that in moat videos.
Thanks. Here's the first: th-cam.com/video/JHaLUaPrMss/w-d-xo.html
And 19:28: th-cam.com/video/G7N7c8FWyNo/w-d-xo.html
Ah hell yeah man this shit was the BEST until 4 came out. This still has an important place in SoR history all the same.
Still better than 4
I truly love Streets Of Rage Remake and I been wanting to play this game for years
Thank you for this video, man. Cheers from Brasil! =D
Yeah… they changed the AI for the 5.2 update. I think they changed it to rival the sor4 one. It’s very good now.😊
Its incredible this is available for free and other companies dare to sell things like Anthem for 60 dollars......
It would be fantastic to see this released on ps4......
Great video SoR remake was amazing its a shame I think Sega maybe could have done something similar to Sonic Mania with SoR remake.
I really appreciate and thank you to all the people that made and contributed to SoR remake such amazing talented people
Also last thing, Glad to find another big fan of SORR . Super under rated game and really inspiring to make your own passion fan game project like all of these guys did.
11:43 even one of the pictures in the background has Joe Musashi on it.
Enjoyed every 22:08 of this video. This really should've been an official release. EASY
Alright now I want a fight between Mr. X (Streets of Rage) and Mr. X (Resident Evil 2)
Funny stuff....I subbed ;)
💮🥀🌻For Paul Clark, the BGM 1401. 😞🙏
You forgot to mention another excellent Sonic fan game. Sonic Robo Blast 2, which is the greatest Sonic game of all-time.
I have seen every video of yours and enjoyed them. Now give me more.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed them.
One of the greatest games I have ever played. Period. So much variety. So much to enjoy. I'd love to play it for my channel but I'm honestly worried Sega might do a Sega and claim the video. They seem to have a REAL problem with this one.
Sega should just pay to release this
Probably yes , the King.
SOR video gets an auto-like from me!
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Great video!!!! You got me playing this again =D. You should check out streets of rage 2 New era by gsaurus and Final Fight LNS by CON 5 DUROS. They're doing great work for us beat um ups players.
Why would they add a command moves for the 3 blitz moves? When you can't execute/buffer the inputs during the auto combo... You have to stop attacking. Hit the combo button, then quickly down, forward, up to do a blitz. During that time your just standing there like a toe tickling psychopath, while all the enemies beat you up.
It's just so strange that you have to hit button. Then do the inputs.
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It doesn't look bad in 4:3 with scanlines, but then when you compare it to the originals in retroarch with biliner filtering and reshade it looks...terrible. It's a shame cause everything else about it is god tier.
Could you share a link to the remix of slow moon please?
I used 2 versions of Slow Moon. One in the middle and one at the end. Here's both of them: th-cam.com/video/GQgek_ycK8g/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/YNBdv5Brd4c/w-d-xo.html
@@8StringFuryGaming Thanks! Love the SORR remixes but always forgot to check out Screens of Rage
Having so much trouble getting the game. Help anyone? Just got a PC too 😞
Update: downloaded it and it works Great but discord and opera GX aren’t fully showing the window anymore
The GOAT Streets of Rage game. SOR4 doesn't even compare.
I think Ash was based off of an actual gay Japanese personality who dressed like Ash but was less built.
Didn't Rudra originate from a series of fan books?
It could be possible. When I was researching, the sources I found claimed she originated from the Remake. This tweet I found from the Streets of Rage Saga Twitter account also claims she was first seen in SOR Remake. It's also possible that I could've gotten some bad info. twitter.com/SagaStreets/status/1475696378940571650
Well lol i finally completed thie game..... Twice lol
Nintendo fans should learn a thing or two from Sega fans, not just for getting things done but for video game preservation.
Cody 😂
Remember when games were fun, first and foremost?
Sega is pretty much dead anyways... And they are scared that nobodies can make better games
I downloaded somebody link to play as abadede and it fucked up my entire game it went from 5.2 to 5.1 and blaze is naked can somebody help me out bruh
Oh god damn it
yo can someone help me out
The fan games are always better because they fans actually give a shit and are passionate about what they make. If these game companies had any brains whatsoever, they'd just hire these fan creators at a discount and save money while ALSO making more money with a better product! But because they're insecure untalented losers, they have to send cease and desists that ultimately end up failing.
Yes, Streets of Rage Remake is THE best Streets of Rage game existing out there! Far better than Streets of Rage 4 (which I own) and worth $30 or more, if it was an official game. It's THAT good! Its bizarre that it's free, while Streets of Rage 4 cost money and had that garbage pseudo-anime art style attached to it.