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So there's something weird going on here... "ZZEW" is on the box, but "ZZAW" is on the case. And if you look up the brands, "ZZAW" seems to be legit. I'm not sure if ZZEW is rebranding/re-boxing ZZAW hardware and selling it on their own Amazon store.
probably a typo tbh
its just a stylized font Greg, its not an "E" on the box, its a lowercase "A" ... "ZZaW"
yes it is ZZ"a"W. they have good cases. i use a C4, matx case that's as small (or even smaller) as other itx cases.
just saw how much you paid for it ... it's around 110 dollars shipped direct from china to here in the philippines, really tempting at this local pricepoint to be honest. they've got cheaper cases in their "C" and "B" line as well, I think it was the C2 I almost bought, its about 60 dollars shipped lol
Did you not get the 2 brackets to mount 2 120mm fans in the front of the case ? that’s what the extra 4 holes in the front side of the case are for
Make this a series! I love seeing different cases. Especially sff
I think we've about 5 or so rn. It basically already is a series hahah.
@@GregSalazar I know! I’m really enjoying it!
Yeah it is a series really there enough videos there. This one was pretty cool. Thanks for doing it!
I also enjoying seeing different cases - especially smaller m-atx cases. There's really a hole in the market for smaller cases that don't require the itx/sff tax. Nice video, Greg!
@@GregSalazar hope you cover the boutique itx cases such as shumadan d53, acat s1, six ge, etc.
I love cases like this , however the lack of cable management and the fact the power supply is on show like that ruins it and the price is abit steep.
Well, I have seen it in a very old PC case, that I'll call a "motherboard wall" in a PC case (not back cover), was mounted on a hinge and there was a 1 screw to secure it after the cable management beside the "motherboard wall". If something like this was used in this case it would be possible to hide all of those cables.
Also on a marketing picture I can see that you can mount 2 2,5 inch drives on top of a PSU that, in my opinion, is the most optimal way of storage in this case. I mean, for a consumer PC it doesn't really matter if you have 2,5 or 3,5 inch spinning hard drive.
Good to see a review of some non-well-known brands like this. I am a little bit of sick of seing next popular brand case review. They are needed, but from some other brands you can see some cool ideas too. @Greg keep up searching for those!
Yeah, the price is steep af especially considering it looks like a trash can.
also the screws are pot metal pieces of shit. they strip/break (i had 5 break when i was building int this case) so easily. i have never had a screw strip or break when building b4 this
@@LeitoAE "Very old case" You mean, anything pre-2014 when cable management was a premium extra?
@@saturnGEEK No. I mean before 2000 era when there was no such thing as gaming pc gear. It was simple white/beige case with totaly closed front without air intake and a blue button 🤣. It was a cheap design so there was costs saving on back panel, but to mount a motherboard and tidy cables you could unscrew 1 screw and the motherboard tray was on a hinge. It could be opened like a door. Of course when motherboard was mounted you could not fully open it because of CPU cooler and other stuff, but it was the first and only time when I saw this design. 😝
Its 2 am here in Germany right now but hell yeah I'm watching this video😁
Hey there!
From Denmark 😊
Same bro
Who needs sleep when there's a pc build going on 😆
I'm typing this at 3:30 in the morning, and the night is still young.
The case is $94 in Aliexpress at this moments. I know for folks in the US amazon and newegg are more trusted sources for finding, but for me and people in other countries this is a way better deal. Good job on the video, seems you found a hidden gem.
The Amazon cost is clearly someone reselling the cases with a markup. It won't be much of a markup due to the high costs in freight.
The case cost around $63 in china which is more of a budget case.
I like the cut out design, and that it is made of aluminium. That being said, I dislike everything else about it, the lack of space for fans, larger graphic cards, storage, cable mangement, and it is over priced for a case without fans.
In other words, it fails even for the category of build that it advertises itself as. But I agree with you that the one-piece design itself and the aluminum material is a good idea.
Just bad reviev.
You can install 2x120mm fan on front, 2x120mm with AIO rad in back, 120mm on top and i think 90mm fan on bottom.
There no problem to fit 3090 STRIX with slim fans on front, or 3080 FE / 3070FE with 2x full size 120mm on front/
With ATX psu you can fit 3.5 hdd (even 2 -3 if you have 3d printer) in top fan place, or 120mm fan and hdd's with SFF case.
overall its 7/10 case, it little on hot side if you have decent gpu and top of the line cpu with 240mm rad, but nothing criminal.
I love the whole shipping companies see the fragile sticker and say challenge accepted, "sees the sticker, laughs, and then yeets the box into the front of the trailer of the delivery truck".
Now I'm kind of curious how an ITX Motherboard and a SFX Power Supply type build would look like in this case. I'm liking the look of the actual case.
In a word, "roomy"
Might be interesting to watercool.
This same manufacturer actually has even smaller models than this for ITX builds. Which is kind of crazy imo because this case is already smaller than a lot of itx cases on the market already.
If you are doing that you might as well have a Fractal Design Node 202 and be able to fit it in a bag.
Can you show the cases with the Tempered Glass installed? I wanted to see it on this case, especially with the red screws included. I wanted to see how the components looked inside with the panel installed as well. Great video regardless. Not a fan of the case because I can't imagine wanting to connect new stuff an having to lift/flip the whole thing just to find the ports.
Sure, I'll be sure to include that going forward :-)
I'm personally very interested in very small footprint Matx cases like this. I have never understood why a lot of micro ATX cases are so big when they don't have to be. Even a lot of Matx "mini towers" are almost the size of smallish ATX cases. That's the novelty of this thing imo.
I have this Case. I bought it 2 years ago. This case is extremely durable and solid case. I'm from the Phillipines and the shipment works around 4 days from China to Philippines.
They gave me a solid RGB Mice in White Color and a lot of free wirings and cables. The packaging are the same in the video. I'm still using this game and it's so sleek very minimalist design.
The finished build looked surprisingly good, although I just can't get past the obvious Mac Pro inspired cheese grater holes in the front of the chassis.
I have this in my shopping cart for the past 2 or 3 years and was hesitant to pull the trigger. Really appreciate this video.
Finally, another 'play-it-safe' type of scamazon shopper. I'm that way too. "I'll wait for an in-depth video review". 𝟐-𝟑 𝒚𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒔 𝒍𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒓
@@RANDOMNATION907 Lol, guilty as charged. I wanted something unique for a HTPC, Just did not trust the brand and could not find a solid review at the time.
been eye balling this case for about a year so glad a US youtuber finally too the plunge! thanks for the review
I wish I had something like this! It looks amazing. I love the more taller rectangular cases. They look so much better than the huge square boxes
I think that this would be a good case to use a SFX PSU for the extra space it'll give you (possibly letting you fit that top case fan). Also definitely a candidate for custom cables. I'd be very interested to see a build with this using a Ryzen APU and liquid cooling setup!
Greg's approach at the end of this video is miles ahead of GN throwing too much useless data at us
I like the GPU having immediate ventilation. That's a cool feature. Otherwise, not really for me.
You might look at the Segotep Typhon, IO is out of the top under a top cover so a bit easier access, the GPU gets the direct air, and the power supply has a shroud to live behind (I hesitate to call it a basement since it looks like the top is fully open in product photos)
Every time I see a SFF build I get all excited to build one! .... then I price it out....full ATX mid towers are fine 🙂
Glad you mentioned the EVGA P2 huge power supplies and extra long huge graphics cards since that's exactly what I had in mind.
Well that and "I should have bought a smaller power supply"
omg ive had this case for 7 months and i absolutely love it i picked it as its so rare in the case scene.
Specs is
5900x
Rtx 3090
32gb ddr4
msi b550 mortar wifi
ek 240mm aio
custom acrylic panel across the top with 7inch screen panel really helps hide excess cables
Id like to see a pic. I just don't see a build in this case being done well at all or cooling be great. so many other great options at the same price. Said like 130 bucks right?
@@Ryan-re1rs well I switched from a lian-li o11 dynamic that was fully watercooled with 3x360mm rads my 5900x is 10c hotter and 3090 is 7-8c hotter than when it was on water and it think it’s thanks to the 3090 founders cooler being pass through so you almost have a wind tunnel 2 120mms in the front and 2 on the 240mm aio on the back so imo for the size of the case the cooling is excellent all my fans are artic p12 and they are barley audible at full speed.
So at load my 5900x is 67c stock
Rtx 3080 is 68c 100% load but with replaced thermal pads and paste room temperature around 24-25c
ZZAW, Thats an "A" not an "E". They're common on online retailers here in south east asia, m-atx and itx styles for all their cases. Been wanting to try out their B1 for a while now. This the first time a mainstream youtuber featured them as far as I know tho, thanks for taking the risk for us Greg lol
That is most certainly an "E" on the box. You won't convince me otherwise.
@@GregSalazar I promise you its a lowercase "a" if you squint bro hahahaha
@@bozzman5855 I'm squinting really hard rn and I can juuust make it out ;-)
Just finished registering for college, now watching this amazing video !
Thanks for watching! And congrats!
@@GregSalazar Thank you !!
Thank you for this review of the C1 case, I hope you'll cover their other options as well. FYI these C1 can be obtained for around $108 here in the Philippines :)
I don't know... seems a bit expensive to me. I love my Phanteks eclipse p400 se, and it came with an RGB strip, and three fans at only $120 Canadian.
Perfect timing, I literally just stumbled upon it on amazon!
Ha! It's definitely a weird one, but that's what makes it cool :-)
@@GregSalazar yeah just have a hard time getting over that price tag. Might be worth it if it included some fans and more filters?
Perfect timing, Greg just crossed 800k subs on youtube 🎉🎉🎉
Interesting case concept. Personally I would end up modding it with an improvised shroud for the PSU and wires up top. I think closer to a hundred would be more reasonable price wise
ZZAW is actually a very solid chinese brand, they mainly sell in SEA or at least in my region they're much more attainable down here in SEA.
They're a very good alternative for SFF cases in which most of the time reaches the upper 200-300 usd range and they make them in a much more affordable price without sacrificing the experience and looks of the case.
For the C1 you can actually fit a 240mm AIO on the rear and that helps a lot with the clean build and the temps if you do push for a higher tier or TDP CPU. You can also place a 3.5" HDD near the PSU and 2x 120mm fan near the GPU area.
Here locally we can get it at around 130-120USD (converted) and I bet you can get it even cheaper if you go to Aliexpress or something so I think it's just because it was imported in US that's why it was priced that kinda high.
I've had my current buuld in this case for about a year (i'm in the US). Use an sfx power supply (i'm using an V850 from cooler master), gives you a ton more room in the top. I also pre-routed my cables under the motherboard BEFORE mounting the board! Takes a bit of measuring but wayyyyyyy cleaner. I have a 5900x on a 240 AIO. Be VERY careful if you go this route, there is almost zero tolerance for AIO clearance!!!!!! I did a lot of work making mine fit.
The best thing about this case is it can be taken apart bit by bit. I took the front inside panel, power button, fan mount, PSU bracket etc. And custom painted them all. It's all screws, not rivets.
It's actually ZZAW C1. I love building in cases like these. I recently just build in the GEEEK A7 Pro, SGPC K29, SGPC K39, ZZAW C2, JONSBO D30, JONSBO V11, IQUNIX EZ-1, AKALLA A5 Max, NZXT H1 V2 as a hobby (helps me relax while watching your videos). Below is the specs for my ZZAW C2 one of the 2nd lowest end budget build.
- ZZAW C2 (SGD75)
- Ryzen 2600X (SGD179)
- Corsair Vengance 16GB 3200mhz (SDG104)
- HP Green 1TB NVMe (SGD101)
- Gigabyte B450M (SGD133)
- Noctua NH-D9L (SGD81 only veritcial mount that can fit)
- Gigabyte RTX 3060 Gaming OC 12G (SGD695)
- 4 x 120mm case fans (SGD45)
- Cooler Master SFX 650W (SGD157)
It's amazing how much you can cramp into a 13.8L case.
First video I’ve seen today, and what a way to start.
Thanks for watching!
Love the videos about weird cases on this channel. Keep up the good work, Greg.
I just bought this exact case from M@C BIDS (auction site for Amazon returns near Pittsburgh). My main pc is in a SSUPD Meshlicious case. I am addicted to building these little itx pc's. It's a neat litte case with the motherboard rotated down and the video card in the front.
P.s. I won the auction for $12. I got the Razer itx case also for $37.
So glad you chose this case! Had my eyes on it for a while.
This gives me an idea for my S/O's upgrade build. It is all aluminum, so it would be easy to strip down and take to a shop and have it painted to any custom color/theme you would want. Thanks for showing this.
That Mag board looks like it was made for that case....Looks amazing
Gratulations for 800k subs! Let's go for the million next.
Much appreciated!
I do not like small or micro cases BUT the look of the case sold me. Still not for me but really cool looking and I enjoyed watching and listening to the commentary. Thank you
Genius idea to use the 2060 with the PCIe power to the side. I wonder if you used an SFX PSU with an ATX bracket if you'd be able to hide some cables above the power supply. Also, I bet you could find a motherboard with the USB headers at the bottom. That might make the cable management a bit better. Otherwise, it's a cool case and I think it's a neat idea they decided to use aluminum.
Such a shame , if they flip the top psu , they already have venting for one fan anyway they can make another for the psu fan, then rise the front pannel inputs to the top instead of the bottom , put a Psu shield across the top they could have easily had a psu cover that screws in. this case would have been lovley.
The parts look good In this but black wire ties would look better and cleaner but you must have been out. I love the front panel Apple style holes with triangles look in front of case.
I'm getting major Segotep Typhon vibes from the rotated motherboard layout, I keep thinking about moving my system into that case for GPU reasons, 1) it gets direct flow from the front fans blowing straight at it 2) hanging it from the IO bracket should mean no sag. The fact that we get full ATX motherboard compatibility, a rear panel to hide cables in, a PSU basement (it looks open at the top in product photos, maybe it would be more accurate to call it a shroud), the cables come out the top instead of the bottom so it seems like easier access, and that it's about half the price all seems to make that case seem like a better option IMO. The only thing that's kept me from doing it is that it won't fit my existing water cooler, the typhon only officially has 240mm rad support, and the larger Phoenix T1 seems like it would leave a lot of empty space.
The one thing I don't like about PC cases where the motherboard I/O panel is not directly accessible from the outside is that said panel contains a lot of ports that may need to be used on a regular basis. After all, you only have two USB ports on the front of the case. Motherboard I/O panels typically have at least four, sometimes more. You may need access to them on a regular basis.
Finally. Been looking for a relative review for this case. 👌
You could route front panel cables behind MB, between board and case. Don't know about lenght, but I have done it in some builds.
i built my personal gaming pc in the ZZAW C2 (awesome naming scheme they have huh haha) its a 13 liter mATX case. i have an i7 10700 on an asus prime b560m, seasonic 650 focus platinum atx psu and a rtx 3070 fe. its a nice looking build. very very tight fit of the matx motherboard and atx psu but its in there. the case is a decent amount smaller then the NR200P (20 liters) to use a atx psu and a matx motherboard, you want to use a motherboard that isnt wide enough to use the 3rd wide mounting hole. the asus prime b560m was perfect cause it has a few fan headers and rgb headers, 4 ram slots, decent vrm cooling, 2x m.2 slots, color matches the case and the pcie 16 lane is the top slot. i want to build in the ZZAW C1 case, just the cost makes it kinda hard to want to do so
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If you had colored sleeved cables cut to the correct length it would be way better looking and maybe then I would think its cool.. but at the price for this I could have alot of other options for cases and this wouldn't be one of them...
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Custom cables would help alot in this case.
thats a great package job
"handie with care" is my favorite part of the fragile label
15:09 Makes a pun unintentionally :) hahah
All of these unique cases that you've showcased on your channel lately are really inspiring.
For cases from ZZAW, the front panel cable go below the motherboard...
The case looks fine, but as someone who relies on Wi-Fi this case would be limited to cabled external antennas which is always kind of messy. The Sama im01/im02 might be less flexible in its micro-atx config but is a bit more conventional and cheaper
Quick way to do the upside down motherboard to cooler alignment. Instead of trying to see the cooler through the holes in the motherboard, take a small screwdriver or allen wrench and put it through the hole in the motherboard. You will be able to see the shaft of the screwdriver below the MB and be able to quickly align the cooler.
Another great one Greg. I built in this case last year, but ended up returning it to Amazon. I felt like for the price I was very unimpressed with the finishing on my unit. The edges were rough and there were many imperfections (scratches/marks/dings) straight out of the box. It was a cool and unique case but I wouldn’t pay any more than $80 for it
I got the pink version of this case. You can actually fit 240mm radiator on the back. Very good temp when 90mm fan installed at the bottom. Generally very satisfied with the case. Thankfully, the price in my country actually not that absurd. That price would kill the deal for me.
Yep, I believe we mentioned 240mm AIO support.
congrats on 800 thousand subs ,way to go greg
Greg, about this build, I notice there is no fans for intake.. but the temps is good!
My latest build was in the ZZAW B6 and I really like it and has great options for building for a mini itx form factor.
using a ZZAW C4 matx case. solid case for my itx build
I just built a new PC thanks to this guy, not sure if i should have waited on the 3070ti though
Nice case. That's solid metal right there
The ZZEW C1 PC Case is an awesomely designed case. It is lacking some storage innovation for drives …. But it’s a great layout and an add-in over plate to cover the misc psu cabling would be something in a revision to look at 🥰👍. Working with ITX builds for many years, you see pricing here for this case is a little high but still reasonable imo.
I would buy it and never use a filter. Great review!
holy gods i thought that was a spark at 17:05
I love the industrial look of this case / build. Please keep the build inspo coming!
Heavily Mac Pro inspired front, but I like that. I also like the compactness. That is also my goal when constructing a new case myself.
Love the random builds in random cases the wackier the better imo
This would be a great series featuring not only unusual cases but other unique component designs. The design of this case is interesting and I think it could have been really good. I love the idea of the GPU placement, bringing in all that fresh air from the front of the case. But the lack of a PSU shroud, what looks like very challenging cable management, a weird case fan setup (92mm?) and that horrendous dust filter makes this a no for me especially for the price. I would have enjoyed just seeing a quick review of thermals because I'm not sure if I agree with you Greg that the temps will be acceptable here. I agree that people will often obsess about a degree or two, but frankly I think this one could throttle that i5-12600 CPU. Great video as always Greg!
This actually looks pretty sick
Good choice of motherboard. I run the MAG B365M and it's a sweet board. With the M.2 socket, I'd run a SATA drive for storge away the OS on the NVE card. Other than that, I'd like to think this case will take off and the prices come down as a result. (USD 119.00 at the time of writing).
I say that this is the best matx case, and SSUPD/K39 v2 are best ITX case depends on your GPU size. I just love space efficiency.
Decent case. I just cleaned up my build room and packed up 26 120mm fans and nearly everyone of them came with small bags of either black or silver fan screws, so that shouldn't be an issue.
I've been here a while and live all of your content. You could try routing the cables under the motherboard.
I was going to suggest routing the USB 3.0 cable under the motherboard. I usually do this for USB/Audio/Fan etc. cables in smaller builds or inverted cases. 90 degree HDMI/Displayport/USB adapters or cables can help with cases like these.
Interesting concept of a case. Now lets wait they improve the cable management
I like it. You could add thicker rubber feet for more graphics card cable room. Shorter power supplies would help with those cables. It's unique.
Sweet little case. Very cute Pepsi! My female cat is named Jelly Bean. She's super rude 80% of the time but I love her :D
That came out awesome! I hope that a future revision adds a shroud to the PSU area for cable management. Thanks for sharing the underseen products in the market.
CONGRATS ON THE 800K @Greg Salazar !
I just love your videos! Every video is something educational and it’s amazing to learn something new every time!
sleeved cable this build needs matching color would look sick
The packaging is amazing! It's great for transporting the rig in the future.
I recently setup a system with the MAG Z690 Tomahawk board and it did the same double reboot thing. Freaked me out!
00:40 yeah SFF builds are more popular in east Asia where living space can be small especially for students in dorms and such.
I have a beQuient!!!! 500DX, thermalfake P3 mounted on the wall and the new Hyte Y60. I have no need for this case but damnit I want it. If it was a little taller and could fit a 360 AIO and a 240 rad in the back, then I'd be game for some water cooled aluminum.
With a power supply shelf and some cable management in the back this would be an amazing case.
I really dig this case. It's different, aluminum, not the norm. I would buy one. It would be a challenge, but this thing would look epic with a custom loop in it.
You should check out the ZZAW/ZZEW c3 it supports atx psu, 360mm aio, full sized gpu's and an matx mobo. In a sub 20l case. Also the zzaw c1 where i live is only about 80-90 usd
Interesting but how are you supposed to use the WiFi with standard antennas?
Looks like a lot of accessories such as a proper external antennas which is not pointing at the desk and a bunch of right angle cables and adapters will be needed 🙂🤦♂️
Love that finish/color, shame there isn't some wire storage...looks sick though.
I'd install 2 more fans beneath the graphics card. Front of the case with some mods if I were you and will definitely use a better heatsink for the CPU cause there's tons of space there and the temps would be super enjoyable.
One way to get around that HDMI clearance issue would be a right angle adapter
Neat case, it wud cool to see this case with rgb and an Aio. Pls Greg.
Love this case it’s amazing. You should check out the K39 it’s Smol but amazing
Your fan screw issue isn't an issue at all as most manufacturers have the proper screws included when purchasing fans.
Cool, Greg actually bought this case. I have this. I wanna see how a pro builds in one. ZZAW does a lot of cases with super tight tolerances. Going Air-cooled is def a safe bet in this thing because the radiator mounts are a pain to use. I think the 4 case fan screws are meant to be used with the front mount brackets because those things only mount to one side of a case fan (super jank, we know). There's technically 6 fan mounts. The 92mm below, the 2 120s on the back (also for AIO), the 120 above, and the 2 you dangle on the front with those janky brackets.