That and you get what you pay for in production value. What I mean by this is cheap baits with a ton of variance in the manufacturing changes how the baits work. I've had a single unit of a make/model kill and the one in the box next to it never catch a fish.
Dang I’ve been fishing the drop shot now for 5 years. Thanks so much for the awesome tips. It took me a few years to figure out some of these tips and learned a lot more from this video
Would love to see this underwater perspective on Ned rig and shakey head. And great work. This is so much better than any other underwater video I have seen.
I am also surprised by the results and think it is counterintuitive. But using my high school education, I’d hypothesize that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. And force equals mass x acceleration. Therefore, the heavier the drop shot weight, the greater the rebound force pulling back against the lure as you drag and stop the weight. And because the water simulates a more weightless environment, the result is magnified as the effect of gravity is reduced due to buoyancy. 🤓😳 So as your test demonstrates, it is important to adjust the size of the weight to achieve the desired effect! I’m actually really glad you did this. It will change the way I drop shot fish. 👍🏻
some of the best info on the net, your are doing and showing the things I would do but can't for lack of a pool and camera equipment, thank you brother.
Thanks for this video. I fish 80% drop shot and try all kinds of baits. Im always wishing I could test in a pool to see what Im actually doing. Drop shot is #1 method of sub-surface bass fishing. If I were challenged with only one option in a competition, I would choose the drop shot.
Perfect underwater video, I guess the difference of the weight is how easy the weight gets moved with the presentation and how tight that weight pulls the line. Thanks for the always great content!
I’m a firm believer in there isn’t a wrong way to fish if it catches them! With that being said the drop shot was developed to be a tight line technique, a few twitches then a 2 or three foot drag. If you decide to revisit this I’d like to see that retrieve underwater. These are the best underwater videos though, nice job!
I've been avoiding the drop shot for years, but seeing it under water I have a whole new perspective. I can't wait to use it now! Thanks for the great video. That robo worm has great action. Now, I gotta get back to trying to tie this drop shot knot for the 35th time....🤦♂️
If you could Show the action of the bait and you working rod at same time would be great. So we can see how you are moving rod to make bait move how it does on video.
I really like the z man baits for this. Now I can actually see why I like it so much....it looks like it does in my head. Thank you for your hard work. 👍🏻👍🏻
Enjoy the methodology and experimentation. Definitely have a niche concept/location that'll produce endless material. I like how its a few baits with multiple changes to the terminal tackle. Really allows for a greater understanding. Biggest takeaway from this video was the pink floating worm. It blended into it's surroundings. Found that to be interesting.
I really love all your videos. I have a very analytical & scientific approach to my fishing so your info is always interesting and relevant. I was surprised by many of the learned facts in this video, especially how vertical the baits were in the “video fishing” style. I will certainly be doing more wacky when fishing this way. Loved the floating baits on a casted slow retrieve. Thanks again. Keep up the great work.
Just thinking of things I have tried in the past is clamping a very small lead weight about a foot or two above a worm with a slip sinker above it allowing the worm to float. Try that on a video and see if you like that action or not and why??
Awesome video. One thing I would like to see is a t swivel on the drop shot with different leader lengths going to the worm. In other words, at the T, 6" leader to the worm and a 12" leader to the dropshot from the T. Thanks so much for this!
Great video JS! I’m usually not a fan of pool videos ( mainly because of the typical drab commentary) but you always seem to put an element of excitement in all of your videos... lookin forward to the next one. Good luck with your tournament buddy👍🎣
Always love your contents. I you may let me ask, it will be nice if you could add a small window how you are putting actions while the main screen showing the underwater footage. I am always curious how the drop shot is reacting when you apply action with your rod. looking forward to your upcoming contents.
Thanks for making that video I normally hook my drop shots 18 to 24 in off the bottom seeing how this works at one foot, and at 4 ft and at 6 in was a big help I will stick to the 18 to 24 in your video shows a great fall and wiggle and the swimbaits works better with the one quarter ounce weight for the technique I'm using this answer many questions thanks a lot
I have not fished the drop shot but I guess I always assumed you would want something floating or to keep it off the bottom. Otherwise I would do something else. Drop shot to me is a technique for 6+ inches off the bottom. Please continue the great videos. Please feel free to comment (anyone) on this comment.
The edit was to include this next sentence, as I missed it vid . This is a fantastic brilliant watch . I'm totally gobsmacked esp shotttin had be thoting Very good ,deserves a sub and like without being talked in it. . But pleas man don't start thus begging for likes in every vid .
Great video.. I only discovered drop shotting last spring, and was blown away at how well it worked. Great information in this video.. you’ve got a new subscriber!
Just a thought on the weight affecting the action. With the lighter weight, when you would shake the rod, the weight would jump off the bottom and swing under the bait. Thus, the bait stayed 10-12" off the bottom. With the heavier weight, when you shake the rod, the weight is staying on the bottom, so the bait isn't coming up as much, there's no slack.
This is a very revealing, particularly from a fishing-from-shore perspective, where you[re reeling in from deep to shallow. But I imagine it would be a different perspective (even with the Keitech), fishing from shallow to deep, as it would be from a boat
I’d try a small wagon. Low to the bottom. Something w wheels to mount the go pro on. It will be smoother and less jump when trying to film. Keep up the good work. Great info.
Really enjoy this series. Seeing similar baits (floating vs sinking) with Ned and Nemo would be interesting. I make a lot of my own soft plastic and leave most without salt so they float. This is great info. For vertical fishing with a floating worm, using a slightly heavier hook on a Texas rig might end up with a more horizontal lure presentation.
This is awesome. Just like you mentioned, the way you visualize the bait is different then what is happening. When you work the baits it would be cool to see 2 frames in the same screen. The bait and the way you are working it
I have done these same test with the same results. You should do one on jerkbaits and you will see why kvd and i use med. Heavy rods. You loose half of your baits action being absorbed from those flimsy med. Rods. Use braid to leader and your jerkbait will move twice as much with half the effort. Do the test. You will see why jerkbait fishing doesnt have to wear you out. We all learn from each others different styles. Great job on drop shot video.
I really enjoyed the under water footage, it definitely showed me how bait looks & reacts when it's worked, I usually use a heavier wait when fishing in deep water & current, I would like to see under water footage of a ned rig or shakyhead!👍 also have learned a lot on your jig videos, that's become 1 if my favorites now! Thank you!
You are becoming the next bass professor. Your videos are so good it's insane and every time I watch them I learn so much. I'm right there with you on how you thought a lure would work a certain way and then it didn't (better or worst). Seeing this video is certainly going change up some of my presentations (aka Keitech drop shots). Very good video! Also me: Even the way you stored the rods in the rack behind you look cool - at a slant. Which now I'm wondering if I have been storing mine wrong - lol.
Excellent video! The time and effort you put in testing, creating and editing you series is incredible. You are definitely making me a better with these videos, much appreciated!
If you set up a pole with a wheel on it for filming, you can roll it back up the pool and stay parallel with lure, I would like to see how the lures act on a longer retrieve.
The reason the lure is staying closer to the bottom with the heavier weights is because the sloping downward contour of the pool is causing the weight to roll down to deeper water pulling the lure down with it.
Nice video. Strike king worm looks like it's bubblegum in the video. The zoom methiolate worm is like a hunters orange. And they are hard to find. I love them in the spring weightless.
Man this answers sooooo many questions!!! Can’t wait to get back out there with my drop shot!!! If I can keep the Drum off of my bait that is... Every time I throw my drop shot I catch Drum? Prob my location I’m fishing good ole Tennessee river. Drum capital of the world! 😂
Amazing video-learning the different length on weight/hook leader will change my fishing-My questions are what you do in grass like Guntersville (my home lake) -I change the length depending on how thick and tall the grass is. What Spinning Reel do you recommend.
Hey man love your videos dude I like how u go in depth and really go out of your way to help us better understand I was wondering if theres any difference in fishing power plant lakes vs other lakes
It actually makes sense with the different actions of the bait with the different weights. The net downward force on the bait + weight is different as you increase the weight. The downward force is always the same. There's an upward force in the form of buoyancy, which is dependent on the density of the sinking object. The sinking "object" here is the weight AND the bait. Now, the bait is significantly larger than the weights used to the point the the volume difference when increasing weight sizes is practically insignificant. When you increase the weight, you now have a heavier total mass with almost the same volume. This is a higher total density, means less buoyancy, less upward force. Basically, you'll end up with higher sinking velocity. Inertia will play a role in the way the bait acts after the weight hits the bottom along with the final speed of the weight and bait the moment the weight hits bottom. You'll get even more different actions if vary how high you lift the weight off the bottom and let it drop again.
Underwater reviews are needed for every bait out there. I have yet to use the drop shot but now know how! Thanks!!!
That and you get what you pay for in production value. What I mean by this is cheap baits with a ton of variance in the manufacturing changes how the baits work. I've had a single unit of a make/model kill and the one in the box next to it never catch a fish.
Dude your content is awesome! Straight to the point and not 15 minutes of teasers.
Spot on Deck.....!! Well said!
Dang I’ve been fishing the drop shot now for 5 years. Thanks so much for the awesome tips. It took me a few years to figure out some of these tips and learned a lot more from this video
Would love to see this underwater perspective on Ned rig and shakey head. And great work. This is so much better than any other underwater video I have seen.
Great idea! I’d also love to see the Ned rig and shakey head underwater.
I am also surprised by the results and think it is counterintuitive. But using my high school education, I’d hypothesize that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. And force equals mass x acceleration. Therefore, the heavier the drop shot weight, the greater the rebound force pulling back against the lure as you drag and stop the weight. And because the water simulates a more weightless environment, the result is magnified as the effect of gravity is reduced due to buoyancy. 🤓😳 So as your test demonstrates, it is important to adjust the size of the weight to achieve the desired effect! I’m actually really glad you did this. It will change the way I drop shot fish. 👍🏻
some of the best info on the net, your are doing and showing the things I would do but can't for lack of a pool and camera equipment, thank you brother.
Real helpful knowing the actual presentations of baits. Allows for much better effect in target. I appreciate you bruh.
Excellent video showing the worms various actions with different weights and leader line lengths. Nice job...
Love the underwater shots! Thanks for putting this together!
Thanks for this video. I fish 80% drop shot and try all kinds of baits. Im always wishing I could test in a pool to see what Im actually doing. Drop shot is #1 method of sub-surface bass fishing. If I were challenged with only one option in a competition, I would choose the drop shot.
Great video. You open my eyes on the different leader lengths and also using the French fry on a Carolina rig.
Perfect underwater video, I guess the difference of the weight is how easy the weight gets moved with the presentation and how tight that weight pulls the line. Thanks for the always great content!
I’m a firm believer in there isn’t a wrong way to fish if it catches them! With that being said the drop shot was developed to be a tight line technique, a few twitches then a 2 or three foot drag. If you decide to revisit this I’d like to see that retrieve underwater. These are the best underwater videos though, nice job!
GREAT footage for 2 guys taping a Go-Pro to the end of a pole!! Excellent video, Jonny!!
Good work. Learnt more from this than anything else I’ve watched so far. It would be interesting to see how things change in flowing water
I've been avoiding the drop shot for years, but seeing it under water I have a whole new perspective. I can't wait to use it now! Thanks for the great video. That robo worm has great action. Now, I gotta get back to trying to tie this drop shot knot for the 35th time....🤦♂️
If you could Show the action of the bait and you working rod at same time would be great. So we can see how you are moving rod to make bait move how it does on video.
Erin Bussard was about say same. Cuz then we can see when working with slack line or rod 👍 great series
+1
I'd say the same. A picture in picture in one corner would be enough. Great video anyway.
Add a view of you working the rod with the under water footage so we can see how what you are doing impacts the bait. Love your videos!!
Really cool video. I’ve never drop shot for bass. But this video has planted some serious interest. Thanks!
😊 Awesome video! Thank you for your valuable time and valuable information.
God Bless you and your family brother.
Excellent views of multiple techniques. What a great perspective. Thank you!
I really like the z man baits for this. Now I can actually see why I like it so much....it looks like it does in my head. Thank you for your hard work. 👍🏻👍🏻
Extremely well-done video!
This helps me visualize with more clarity and understanding what is happening beneath the surface with my baits.
Thank You!
Excellent analysis! Decided to start drop shot fishing this year and this is some great insight, thank you!
Awesome video- learned a ton and didn’t expect some of the results.
Love this. I’m new to bass fishing. You are helpful and very informative. Thanks for sharing all of your knowledge.
Good content to understand how the drop shot works
All the work you put into these videos, thank you, great stuff.
Enjoy the methodology and experimentation. Definitely have a niche concept/location that'll produce endless material. I like how its a few baits with multiple changes to the terminal tackle. Really allows for a greater understanding. Biggest takeaway from this video was the pink floating worm. It blended into it's surroundings. Found that to be interesting.
Awesome job, Jonny. These videos are getting better and better
I have never learned so much . Excelant video . Great watching you
I really love all your videos. I have a very analytical & scientific approach to my fishing so your info is always interesting and relevant. I was surprised by many of the learned facts in this video, especially how vertical the baits were in the “video fishing” style. I will certainly be doing more wacky when fishing this way. Loved the floating baits on a casted slow retrieve. Thanks again. Keep up the great work.
Just thinking of things I have tried in the past is clamping a very small lead weight about a foot or two above a worm with a slip sinker above it allowing the worm to float. Try that on a video and see if you like that action or not and why??
Awesome video. One thing I would like to see is a t swivel on the drop shot with different leader lengths going to the worm. In other words, at the T, 6" leader to the worm and a 12" leader to the dropshot from the T. Thanks so much for this!
I was very surprised on the vertical fishing. I now know that I need to wacky rig my worms to get the presentation I thought I was trying to achieve!
Great video. I know more now about drop shots. Thanks Professor. Better light, new hat and the white shirt!!!!! Nice.
gold nugget knowledge right here. great video
Ok im fishing dropshot next. Sick video, no problem with the small shakes
Great video JS! I’m usually not a fan of pool videos ( mainly because of the typical drab commentary) but you always seem to put an element of excitement in all of your videos... lookin forward to the next one. Good luck with your tournament buddy👍🎣
These videos are great. Changed my perspective on using a drop shot
Always love your contents. I you may let me ask, it will be nice if you could add a small window how you are putting actions while the main screen showing the underwater footage. I am always curious how the drop shot is reacting when you apply action with your rod. looking forward to your upcoming contents.
Love the underwater testing tank. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for making that video I normally hook my drop shots 18 to 24 in off the bottom seeing how this works at one foot, and at 4 ft and at 6 in was a big help I will stick to the 18 to 24 in your video shows a great fall and wiggle and the swimbaits works better with the one quarter ounce weight for the technique I'm using this answer many questions thanks a lot
Great content! underwater jig test! different trailers / weights
I have not fished the drop shot but I guess I always assumed you would want something floating or to keep it off the bottom. Otherwise I would do something else. Drop shot to me is a technique for 6+ inches off the bottom. Please continue the great videos. Please feel free to comment (anyone) on this comment.
Great job young man. Keep up the good work.
Knowing this information is very helpful. Love it.
Great way to teach. Videos and explanations are excellent.
The edit was to include this next sentence, as I missed it vid . This is a fantastic brilliant watch . I'm totally gobsmacked esp shotttin had be thoting Very good ,deserves a sub and like without being talked in it.
. But pleas man don't start thus begging for likes in every vid .
Great video.. I only discovered drop shotting last spring, and was blown away at how well it worked. Great information in this video.. you’ve got a new subscriber!
Excellent work! Very thorough. Subscribed.
Just a thought on the weight affecting the action. With the lighter weight, when you would shake the rod, the weight would jump off the bottom and swing under the bait. Thus, the bait stayed 10-12" off the bottom. With the heavier weight, when you shake the rod, the weight is staying on the bottom, so the bait isn't coming up as much, there's no slack.
Really appreciate your underwater videos!
Very informative video and very well explained! Thanks for sharing!
This is a very revealing, particularly from a fishing-from-shore perspective, where you[re reeling in from deep to shallow. But I imagine it would be a different perspective (even with the Keitech), fishing from shallow to deep, as it would be from a boat
EXCELLENT video. This is quality stuff
Thanks I know now that I do like the robo worm for that rig.
I’d try a small wagon. Low to the bottom. Something w wheels to mount the go pro on. It will be smoother and less jump when trying to film. Keep up the good work. Great info.
I don't know about you but that kitec and a half ounce drop shot at Don Pedro is fire
Awesome video! Very informative!
Wow! Your video was so informative. I’m a new subscriber and want to thank you for your work. You know what works!
Really enjoy this series. Seeing similar baits (floating vs sinking) with Ned and Nemo would be interesting. I make a lot of my own soft plastic and leave most without salt so they float. This is great info. For vertical fishing with a floating worm, using a slightly heavier hook on a Texas rig might end up with a more horizontal lure presentation.
great information. I learned a lot about drop shoting.
Nicely done. Some very good info !
This is awesome. Just like you mentioned, the way you visualize the bait is different then what is happening.
When you work the baits it would be cool to see 2 frames in the same screen. The bait and the way you are working it
I have done these same test with the same results. You should do one on jerkbaits and you will see why kvd and i use med. Heavy rods. You loose half of your baits action being absorbed from those flimsy med. Rods. Use braid to leader and your jerkbait will move twice as much with half the effort. Do the test. You will see why jerkbait fishing doesnt have to wear you out. We all learn from each others different styles. Great job on drop shot video.
As always Jonny, great info! Offer still stands.
I really enjoyed the under water footage, it definitely showed me how bait looks & reacts when it's worked, I usually use a heavier wait when fishing in deep water & current, I would like to see under water footage of a ned rig or shakyhead!👍 also have learned a lot on your jig videos, that's become 1 if my favorites now! Thank you!
You are becoming the next bass professor. Your videos are so good it's insane and every time I watch them I learn so much. I'm right there with you on how you thought a lure would work a certain way and then it didn't (better or worst). Seeing this video is certainly going change up some of my presentations (aka Keitech drop shots). Very good video!
Also me: Even the way you stored the rods in the rack behind you look cool - at a slant. Which now I'm wondering if I have been storing mine wrong - lol.
Great informative video thanks Tyler
I don't think I hurd you say "umm" 1 time, few edits. Pretty darn good man.
Very very Helpful, thank you!!
Dude this video is so good. Thanks for making it! 👍👍👍 3 thumbs up
Excellent video! The time and effort you put in testing, creating and editing you series is incredible. You are definitely making me a better with these videos, much appreciated!
If you set up a pole with a wheel on it for filming, you can roll it back up the pool and stay parallel with lure, I would like to see how the lures act on a longer retrieve.
Great information. Your knowledge is amazing.
The reason the lure is staying closer to the bottom with the heavier weights is because the sloping downward contour of the pool is causing the weight to roll down to deeper water pulling the lure down with it.
Keith Schultz I'm surprised no one else has noticed that!
Nice video. Strike king worm looks like it's bubblegum in the video. The zoom methiolate worm is like a hunters orange. And they are hard to find. I love them in the spring weightless.
That was very informative, thanks for doing this.
Great video Jonny! definitely some things to try out...learned a ton.
I really like these vids (along with all the rest of em) keep it up bud. Good stuff
Man this answers sooooo many questions!!! Can’t wait to get back out there with my drop shot!!! If I can keep the Drum off of my bait that is... Every time I throw my drop shot I catch Drum? Prob my location I’m fishing good ole Tennessee river. Drum capital of the world! 😂
Best underwater dropshot video I have seen....great job!
Great video. Been thinking about trying drop shot for years maybe it's time to make that happen in 2020.
Nice work dear love wonder water futage but please also add you rod and retrieve action it would be helpful
Hey man, this is a GREAT video. Thanks for making it. I learned some watching it.
Fantastic video.Thanks for the info.
Excellent work! This has been very insightful, makes me actually excited to drop shot more now.
Gonna try this drop shot rig today, Thanks and New subscriber
looking forward to more
Great information! Keep up the great work!
Thanks for these videos. I think your content is awesome!! Please keep it up!
Amazing video-learning the different length on weight/hook leader will change my fishing-My questions are what you do in grass like Guntersville (my home lake) -I change the length depending on how thick and tall the grass is. What Spinning Reel do you recommend.
Nice video man...good job
Side note: Love my OG FTM hat, but definitely digging the new lid Johnny!!!
Awesome work! Thank you so much.
always good stuff and well worth the time!
Please do more underwater videos
I’m glad I found this channel. ~Subscribed/Liked~Solid content for sure! Keep up the great work!🤟
Hey man love your videos dude I like how u go in depth and really go out of your way to help us better understand I was wondering if theres any difference in fishing power plant lakes vs other lakes
It actually makes sense with the different actions of the bait with the different weights.
The net downward force on the bait + weight is different as you increase the weight. The downward force is always the same. There's an upward force in the form of buoyancy, which is dependent on the density of the sinking object. The sinking "object" here is the weight AND the bait.
Now, the bait is significantly larger than the weights used to the point the the volume difference when increasing weight sizes is practically insignificant.
When you increase the weight, you now have a heavier total mass with almost the same volume. This is a higher total density, means less buoyancy, less upward force.
Basically, you'll end up with higher sinking velocity. Inertia will play a role in the way the bait acts after the weight hits the bottom along with the final speed of the weight and bait the moment the weight hits bottom.
You'll get even more different actions if vary how high you lift the weight off the bottom and let it drop again.