The idea of having massive debt that you have to pay off by farming and you gain more debt every day is hilarious to me. I wish that game was actually good.
Hardspace: Shipbreaker has that, but it's not a farming game. You have a huge debt to pay off, it gains interest each day, and you work it off at your job. It's still a nice chill-out game if you play on the open shift difficulty with unlimited oxygen.
Also not a farming game but a management game. Recettear: An Item Shop's Tale You have a debt you have to pay that increases each week def recommend it!
Wild Seasons was the worst scam ever... was kickstarted, humble sold, and such and the dev just vanished... we've been trying to get steam to delist it for years at this point
They had a planned PS4 release, it was even advertised by the publisher in one of their other games on PS4. That's how I learned about the game. They used to have dev live streams on TH-cam too. At first they advertised you could also marry any character regardless of gender, then they changed their minds and only let you marry some of them. lol
@@jeromed9750 That ended up being unintentionally the best non-standard Game Over I've ever seen. Didn't expect an indie farming game to go straight "Far Cry intro" like that.
Josh, just to let you and anybody else watching the video who aren't aware know... the three cat girls shown in your gameplay of Farm Debt Repay Life are stolen from a fairly well-known Japanese eroge Nekopara. Lolas is Azuki, Gothilia is Cinnamon, and Lily is Maple 😭
nooooo not Wild Season, I didn't even know you could still buy that?! I was one of the early backers, at the time it felt like there was a lull in the farming sim scene ("cozy games" wouldn't even be a term for years), stardew valley wasn't out yet, and the devs SEEMED very open and communicative with the community. I even just searched "wild season quickfire games" on youtube and their channel is still up with all the podcast episodes where they were talking about the development process. TBH I still think the hook about ending up in one of those cozy farm sim small towns but they're very suspicious and uneasy of you at first is a pretty neat idea and I still want to know how it would've played out. when they suddenly made a statement that the game was going to become episodic people were pissed, then the actual 'episode 1' released and things got worse, and then as far as i know all the quickfire games accounts were ghosted. there's probably more story out there somewhere, some years ago I tried to look through their accounts again and some twitter statistics bot had taken over their twitter account for months. any time a friend sees that game in my account and asks about it I just have to respond with nervous laughter.... oh, wild season. one of my clearest memories of that game is going into some sort of beach area and walking right until i can see the edge of the terrain and solid black beyond it. that was the moment I realized there was no hope left for that game.
15:45 Honestly, the hearts partially disappearing proportional to health percent seems harder to implement than either a traditional health bar or regular zelda-style hearts. True commitment to a bad design idea.
It's not, you just have to incrementally make an image disappear, same as with a health bar. I think they liked the aesthetic of the heart-system but couldn't be bothered to actually make it, so they just made a health bar with heart aesthetic
It's likely just a healthbar with no background and a png with the three hearts as the meter. As the health bar goes down with damage, it masks out the hearts
@@WarKeineAbsicht To make it you use the heart sprite, set the displayed definition in pixels by pixels and then use a simple script to change the sprite definition relatively to your health variable.
The first one has an arrow before words to imply it’s a narrator but that doesn’t really help much especially if you don’t know what that means nor notice it. It’s even worse since the player character’s portrait shows up during this so makes them look lazy by putting it in the player’s talking box. Also fun fact Farm Debt Repay Life is copyright infringement, those three girls are from a visual novel series about the main character running a pastry shop with his sister & their pet cat girls joining in. Lotas is Azuki the munchkin cat(also the oldest of the cats), Gothilia/Godzilla is Cinnamon the scottish fold, Lily is Maple the American Curl.
Exactly. Why put the character portrait and name if it's a narrator? There are actually a few instances where the portrait is not there. It's very inconsistent. I had no idea about the cat girls, but a lot of people are pointing it out! 😲
@@JoshGamingGarden I don’t even know why these characters are there past the weird cat stuff, I wouldn’t be surprised if the character sprites was stolen from fan content
Keep working on it, look at stardew valley, all by one guy and it’s huge. Post it as an alpha/pre-release version and have somewhere in the main menu or setting where people can give feedback or update you on bugs that you may not have spotted. Good luck and wish you the best
7:34 Somehow, Brock who looks like Brock from Pokemon being married to Misty who does not look like Misty from Pokemon cracks me up more than it should 😂
Oh I remember being so excited for Wild Seasons at one point 😭 The idea sounded so promising in the kickstarter, but luckily I was a teenager with no money
Wild Seasons was worse... I bought off humble for $19 US dollars before it became obvious we were scammed and think the backers say in the reviews they paid 24 on up?
You can actually get full refunds on steam as long s it's within a certain time frame. You could basically "borrow" them to make a review video and not keep them if it's bad.
Steam has so much grade inflation that even "Mostly Positive" makes me pause and read the reviews to see what's wrong with a game. Lower than that...yikes.
wild seasons set the standards so low the other asset flip games seem much more competent in comparison lol. If only Godzilla was actually in the game, i think it would certainly improve the farming experience to sell turnips to Godzilla.
There is an upcoming game called "Wild Seasons" that seems to be a deckbuilder-roguelike with a gimmick where you "grow" your cards in a garden - sadly they will be confused with this mess of an abandoned kickstarter.
Omgosh, the, "Lame... I mean Lamu..." had me ROLLING! Ever since I tried the game it's been an ongoing roast in my Discord. Hilarious! Thanks so much for this awesomely terrible series of game reviews Josh~ 💚
This was hilarious, but I also think it would be a good video for developers to check out before releasing their own games. You've got some good tips in here about what makes games feel good to play.
This is why I now will only wait for reviews from the brave people like you Josh for me to make a decision. Farming games have popped up so much and unless they have a demo for me to try I wait for others like you to see if its a go or no go. because I have bought some regrettable purchases I should have done research on.
These games feel like part of the steam bundle keys scam. They make a lot of barely playable games and they know almost no one would buy them directly so they sell these bundles with 30+ random steam keys, promissing at least one good game on the bundle. So they make money without really making games
I am actually dying laughing that the "town" in the second game is a "stall" LOL and no dialogue... omg! The slow bat death!?? That was "lame" I mean Lamu!?? I can't deal OMG lmaoo
Maybe the “toilet paper rolls” outside of the doors are for the cat girls to scratch and play with because oftentimes real cats like to play with toilet paper rolls? I have no idea… lol…
as someone who is planning on making a farming game, now I know that I can't just throw things in a program, hope for the best, and release it. what a shame🤣 (complete sarcasm, intended)
I'm someone who doesn't program and I've been messing around with a project to develop an HM fan game using the BYOND engine and the first game mystified me because the core gameplay seems to be barely functional. It's like looking at the fangame I'm afraid to make but it's a game people buy for real money. The diagonal movement thing is something I ironed out quickly referring to documentation by others so I'm sure for whatever engine Wild Seasons was made in... SURELY someone had documented a way to fix this very, very common issue in pixel games? And the fact putting items into the shipping bin is so difficult is craaaazy, one of the first things I implemented was picking up items and putting them into the tile your player is facing... I'm actually not sure how they messed this up given the engine seems to be RPG maker? So, basically, what I'm saying is as someone with next to no coding experience who is making a fan game for free, the immediate issues jumping out at me are ones I fixed within a few hours of studying and troubleshooting. Wow. I feel so bad for anyone who kickstarted this. My condolences, y'all.
Even when farming sims are good, they dont have a really big fanbase- farming/gardening is already such a boring task and can be such a hit or miss with casual gamers and thats with like actually well designed farm games. i cant imagine how awful bad ones can be.
Lol I think those are actually supposed to be toilet paper rolls in that last game. Maybe as a reference to how cats like to unravel toilet paper rolls? It's kind of a shame, that last one could've been fun if they leaned more into a quirky cat girls push you into debt and it didn't feel so spaced out for no reason
Thank you so much for this. I'm in the process of developing my own farming sim and this is fantastic, organic research as to what NOT to do for my upcoming game. Eventually, I'd love to share the game details with your community via discord to simply see what their thoughts on it are and get some active feedback. 😊❤️
You should definitely know your blood type, not for the kooky reasons people will have you believe, but in case you need a transfusion, have it written somewhere with you always.
I watch you since the SoS: PoOT videos you made and I love how your humour has developed! You entertain is so much and I am sorry for this suffering you had to endure.
the debt game looks like stardew valley, sun haven, roots of pacha and traveller's rest had a really fucked up lovechild (looks like stolen assets, there's an uncanny resemblance to some of the items in each game)
One funny thing about the first game, at 4:19 you talk about bad scrolling. I'm currently playing the latest title of simply the biggest company in the genre, and even thou it is supposedly a pc game, there is no scrolling at all.... You can only drag the inventory or the scroll bar.... This is one of the most frustrating things in RF5, lol
Wild Season was dropped. I did back the game.... They abandoned it, sadly, and never released the entire thing, just a partial game. Honestly I don't understand how/why it wasn't pulled from the Steam storefront... I would gladly give you access to more info, sadly the dev posted Kickstarter updates that you could only read on their now (dead) website.
I'm working on making a narrative puzzle game (some VN style, some 2.5d), but I still like videos like these because it's a good "what NOT to do" sort of thing.
Thank you for suffering for us, Josh! I'd be interested in a part 2. When I looked at Wild Season on Steam I didn't see an option to buy it, strange. One of the worst games I played lately was Spellfarers, a free to play cozy MMO type game similar to Palia. But the controls were pretty bad...among other things.😅
Oh wow the catgirls from farm dbet repay life are stolen assets 😂😭 Literally Cinnamon, Azuki, and Maple from Nekopara (not a farming sim, look up at your own risk)
The absolute audacity of Wild Season to copy the map from FoMT on top of everything else! It may not be a 1:1 recreation, but I noticed the uncanny similarity as soon so you started walking around the farm. 🙃
I love how logical your explanations on how each game could improve! Bizarre how they charge so much for these when they clearly aren't ready. I hope their devs see this video!! And looking forward to more!!
I never comment on anything but this video was so funny that I have to "recommend" two very bad games for you to waste more of your sanity on. First is "Pretty Princess Magical Garden Island," as far as I know it's only available on Switch, but it's a terrible Animal Crossing clone with bad controls and game mechanics. I wanted to enjoy this game -- really, I did -- but even the "pretty princess" veneer wasn't enough to make me want to play more. Second is "Brookhaven Grimoire," a game that has so many problems I don't know where to start. Aside from looking like it stole assets straight from Stardew Valley, it has enough mechanical issues to render it unplayable, the story hook starts intriguing and goes right into "disturbing," and on top of everything else, it has been abandoned by the dev. Honestly I felt so bad about buying this game that I uninstalled it and hid it on my games library. If you review either of these games (or both? haha /jk but what if), I would be both elated and VERY sympathetic for what you'd have to go through.
I can't believe how hard this video made me laugh. The first time I lost it is Josh's deadpan delivery of "here they're walking much faster without even having to go diagonally." The worst farming game I've played is called World's Dawn. Much like these it barely worked and was not fun. The map design was horrible, the controls felt unresponsive, and lots of things did not make sense. It might have improved since I played it since it has a "very positive" rating on Steam now.
yay!!! i'm so glad you made this video. it's always so much fun to watch you review those disasters LOL it's my favorite type of video i had a very difficult week and my depression was kicking my butt and making me reconsider being on this planet, so thank you Josh for always posting amazing content. i'm sure everybody would love to see more of this type of video!!
@@brittanyxxbabyxx2186 It does help with people learning about developing, same can be applied to all arts. But then there is a point where the flaws are so obvious, if you can't see them, you should never contribute to that art form yourself (Big rigs comes to mind).
i actually noticed that in "Farm Dbet Repay Life" the cat girls are stolen from a visual novel called Nekopara! They just made pixel versions of the characters and slightly changed them for their game! Their names are all different, but im so confused on why they didn't just make their own cat girls 🤣
That Wild Season sure reminds me of Harvest Moon BTN. Lamu really looks like an Early Access game. I guess for the last game, the naming was messed up when they translated it into English. The Wild Season looked promosing and probably would have been a nice game after some polishing,but it was abandoned. Too bad.
The wild seasons mayor looks exactly like harvest moon / story of season's mayor Thomas 😂 it feels like it's trying very hard to be an old harvest moon game
Oh gosh this is gonna be a ton of disasters isnt it.... Edit: the repay debt mechanic in the last game is interesting. Too bad it's not super polished as a game.
Valthirian Arc: Hero School Story is just about the most disappointing game I've ever played. It doesn't really get bad till the end, where the quests you need to level up your students reasonably have just all disappeared and the story progression stops because you can't level up your newer students! It's like it punishes you for doing the thing that increases your school's reputation, which is graduating the damn students. It was especially frustrating because it was a game I wanted to like, I had played Valthirian Arc on Kongregate a long time ago and had a good time, and didn't remember that previous game having the same sort of frustrating progression issues late game that this one had.
it's interesting how stark the difference in presentation is in poorly made farming games before and after stardew valley hit it big. truly a game that revolutionised the genre.
Wild Season was such a scam. They started as early access and once they earned money from a kickstarter and early purchases they just ghosted everyone. Still upset about the $20 or so that I will never get back. It's why I'm so hesitant to buy early access games nowadays unless I've heard REALLY good things and the devs are transparent and active.
Did you set timers so you could refund the games if they were bad? 10+ bucks is not a small amount of money. Lamu seems like a partly skeleton of what can be a good game, but it also shouldn't be in early access yet (or it should be free). It's almost like this is their way to raise money to develop the game and it's just the start instead of something far enough along for play testing (so early access).
red X as next button gives me physical pain. I wonder if there's some buggery going on that shunts the coordinates and graphics for the buttons to weird places and/or overlap
Hey Josh, long time casual viewer. Like you, I got my finger on the pulse of farming sims (first was Harvest Moon 3 on GBC). Keep this up: the farming game niche is exploding, and I've been scammed so many times on promising looking games by this point I could probably fund the development of my own
@@JoshGamingGarden I did right away! By the way, money is dropped by killing the bats 🤣 and the bat followed me into my house! I'm saddened by farm debt repay life, I have that for a while but haven't booted it up yet, might not be able to get a refund now. I thought they seemed similar but never made the connection
The option to just sell the farm and have the game end is absolutely hilarious, especially since it's clearly the superior choice 😂 Tbh, the whole review was hilarious, your sarcasm is just great 😂
Wild Season was also going to be sold in 4 episodes (each episode unlocking a season iirc). Did any of the other episodes come out? Scummy regardless. ETA: Monster Harvest had similar issues to I saw being talked about on Wild Harvest. The Devs don't even seem to have it in their page. As someone who was active in the Discord and saw how things went I can't even sarcastically say big shocker
As a pokemon fan, Nexomon somehow manages to be even easier and more dumbed down than gen 1-2 pokemon. However I give the prize for worse pokemonlike to TemTem. Ridiculous economy, needless mmo mechanics, increasingly expensive "micro" transactions, charging players $5 for a single use dye. Just remember kids it takes skill and tact to pull off making a game out of spite for another game, neither of wich crema had.
I have so much respect you played so much of that first game, it looks terrible! Looks like the developers not put love into that one, and selling it for 19 dollars is crazy!
I'm so used to recent farming games taking cues from Stardew's artstyle and UI, it's crazy that Wild Seasons immediately reminded me of Harvest Moon FOMT. That's the only thing I can say about this abandonware lol.
@JoshGamingGarden oh, that's even more fascinating! Amusing to think in another timeline, this game could've taken off as /the/ indie farming sim, but alas 😅
ahhhh the wild seasons. I remember the drama when it launched lol thank god i was a poor student who couldn't do kickstarter back then It sounded really promising and the devs did live stream on twitch i think? few times too so it looked like it was going to come out all good lol
The idea of having massive debt that you have to pay off by farming and you gain more debt every day is hilarious to me. I wish that game was actually good.
Hardspace: Shipbreaker has that, but it's not a farming game. You have a huge debt to pay off, it gains interest each day, and you work it off at your job. It's still a nice chill-out game if you play on the open shift difficulty with unlimited oxygen.
@@MegamanXfan21xx Thanks for the suggestion!!
Also not a farming game but a management game. Recettear: An Item Shop's Tale You have a debt you have to pay that increases each week def recommend it!
They went for realism with this one
You also start off with massive debt in Animal Crossing
Wild Seasons was the worst scam ever... was kickstarted, humble sold, and such and the dev just vanished... we've been trying to get steam to delist it for years at this point
I feel so bad for the Kickstarter backers 😭 The game is way overpriced as it is, I can't imagine some people gave even more!
@@JoshGamingGarden One reviewer said they paid $100 for EA and copies for all their friends
that's wild 😭
They had a planned PS4 release, it was even advertised by the publisher in one of their other games on PS4. That's how I learned about the game. They used to have dev live streams on TH-cam too. At first they advertised you could also marry any character regardless of gender, then they changed their minds and only let you marry some of them. lol
@@InazumaDash time to normalize polyamorous relationship, and milfing
The fact that the first game gave you the in game opportunity to quit the farm and go back home is hilarious
They already knew what kind of game they had, was just looking to make a few bucks from it.
Level of self-awareness some people need
they do this in some harvest moon games too! you can straight up say no and then the credits roll
7:50 I need “I am a placeholder saplings” on a shirt or something, it’s too iconic already 😂
You should DIY it it would be awesome. I’m envisioning something tie dye.
8:57 "Denise tells me to leave this town as soon as possible. Of course, I'm very tempted..." I love your sense of humor with these terrible games
16:11 "So that was lame -- uh I mean Lamu" LMAO
@@catsplat1272 I'm dead just hearing that LOL
I find it crazy that they added dialogue options to just give up on the game and go back to the city!
@@jeromed9750 That ended up being unintentionally the best non-standard Game Over I've ever seen. Didn't expect an indie farming game to go straight "Far Cry intro" like that.
Josh, just to let you and anybody else watching the video who aren't aware know... the three cat girls shown in your gameplay of Farm Debt Repay Life are stolen from a fairly well-known Japanese eroge Nekopara. Lolas is Azuki, Gothilia is Cinnamon, and Lily is Maple 😭
Oh my god, I thought you might be exaggerating until I got to that part of the video, but no, it literally is them without any edits at all, wtf
I remember seeing this game on sale... I remember my initial reaction was, that's gotta be a ripoff. Man was I right 😂
😊
Wait... You're actually right, lol. I didn't even realize at first xD
I knew I recognized them!! Glad someone said it!
the bat endlessly smacking you and then following you into the house had me wheezing
nooooo not Wild Season, I didn't even know you could still buy that?! I was one of the early backers, at the time it felt like there was a lull in the farming sim scene ("cozy games" wouldn't even be a term for years), stardew valley wasn't out yet, and the devs SEEMED very open and communicative with the community. I even just searched "wild season quickfire games" on youtube and their channel is still up with all the podcast episodes where they were talking about the development process. TBH I still think the hook about ending up in one of those cozy farm sim small towns but they're very suspicious and uneasy of you at first is a pretty neat idea and I still want to know how it would've played out.
when they suddenly made a statement that the game was going to become episodic people were pissed, then the actual 'episode 1' released and things got worse, and then as far as i know all the quickfire games accounts were ghosted. there's probably more story out there somewhere, some years ago I tried to look through their accounts again and some twitter statistics bot had taken over their twitter account for months. any time a friend sees that game in my account and asks about it I just have to respond with nervous laughter.... oh, wild season. one of my clearest memories of that game is going into some sort of beach area and walking right until i can see the edge of the terrain and solid black beyond it. that was the moment I realized there was no hope left for that game.
15:45 Honestly, the hearts partially disappearing proportional to health percent seems harder to implement than either a traditional health bar or regular zelda-style hearts. True commitment to a bad design idea.
It's not, you just have to incrementally make an image disappear, same as with a health bar. I think they liked the aesthetic of the heart-system but couldn't be bothered to actually make it, so they just made a health bar with heart aesthetic
It's likely just a healthbar with no background and a png with the three hearts as the meter. As the health bar goes down with damage, it masks out the hearts
@@WarKeineAbsicht To make it you use the heart sprite, set the displayed definition in pixels by pixels and then use a simple script to change the sprite definition relatively to your health variable.
Basically it's a single progressbar hearts are just painted over it. So when it shrinks it gets cropped. nothing too nuclear.
@@liliya_aseeva It's simple but definitely more difficult than having a set number of hearts!
The first one has an arrow before words to imply it’s a narrator but that doesn’t really help much especially if you don’t know what that means nor notice it. It’s even worse since the player character’s portrait shows up during this so makes them look lazy by putting it in the player’s talking box.
Also fun fact Farm Debt Repay Life is copyright infringement, those three girls are from a visual novel series about the main character running a pastry shop with his sister & their pet cat girls joining in. Lotas is Azuki the munchkin cat(also the oldest of the cats), Gothilia/Godzilla is Cinnamon the scottish fold, Lily is Maple the American Curl.
Exactly. Why put the character portrait and name if it's a narrator? There are actually a few instances where the portrait is not there. It's very inconsistent.
I had no idea about the cat girls, but a lot of people are pointing it out! 😲
@@JoshGamingGarden I don’t even know why these characters are there past the weird cat stuff, I wouldn’t be surprised if the character sprites was stolen from fan content
Pastry and cat? Nekopara?
@@wailmerwithinternetaccess7934 Yeah it's Nekopara
I want to work at my farming game again after seeing this. Its already at a better state then those. Im glad i did not post it to steam yet haha
That's awesome
Don't give up!
ooooh do keep us posted👀
Keep working on it, look at stardew valley, all by one guy and it’s huge. Post it as an alpha/pre-release version and have somewhere in the main menu or setting where people can give feedback or update you on bugs that you may not have spotted. Good luck and wish you the best
7:34 Somehow, Brock who looks like Brock from Pokemon being married to Misty who does not look like Misty from Pokemon cracks me up more than it should 😂
Other than having squinty eyes he doesn't look much like Brock either
No one:
Absolutely no one:
The Wild Season mayor FLOORING it through town: 🏃💨💨💨
lol, it kept popping up over and over when you were loading up Wild Seasons while I was playing BG3. I was like 'you ok over there Josh?"
I was NOT OKAY 😭
@@JoshGamingGarden
Oh I remember being so excited for Wild Seasons at one point 😭 The idea sounded so promising in the kickstarter, but luckily I was a teenager with no money
lol I shudder to think about what projects I would’ve backed if I had the funds as a teenager 😭 I was so hyped for re:legend
Oh wow! Those are expensive games with no content. I'd say don't do a second video just because I feel like they don't deserve the money.
Wild Seasons was worse... I bought off humble for $19 US dollars before it became obvious we were scammed and think the backers say in the reviews they paid 24 on up?
You can actually get full refunds on steam as long s it's within a certain time frame. You could basically "borrow" them to make a review video and not keep them if it's bad.
@@stressedbigjess I believe it's 2 hours.
This video honestly made me laugh so much. “Dude, I know- I bought the game” 💀💀💀 thank you for your sacrifice Josh
Steam has so much grade inflation that even "Mostly Positive" makes me pause and read the reviews to see what's wrong with a game.
Lower than that...yikes.
wild seasons set the standards so low the other asset flip games seem much more competent in comparison lol. If only Godzilla was actually in the game, i think it would certainly improve the farming experience to sell turnips to Godzilla.
There is an upcoming game called "Wild Seasons" that seems to be a deckbuilder-roguelike with a gimmick where you "grow" your cards in a garden - sadly they will be confused with this mess of an abandoned kickstarter.
Omgosh, the, "Lame... I mean Lamu..." had me ROLLING!
Ever since I tried the game it's been an ongoing roast in my Discord. Hilarious! Thanks so much for this awesomely terrible series of game reviews Josh~ 💚
This was hilarious, but I also think it would be a good video for developers to check out before releasing their own games. You've got some good tips in here about what makes games feel good to play.
“Who is Lamu? Who am I?” This was amazing 😆 thank you for sacrificing for us 💕
This is why I now will only wait for reviews from the brave people like you Josh for me to make a decision. Farming games have popped up so much and unless they have a demo for me to try I wait for others like you to see if its a go or no go. because I have bought some regrettable purchases I should have done research on.
Okay, personally, I'd love for farming sim to have "placeholder trees" as an actual crop item.
These games feel like part of the steam bundle keys scam. They make a lot of barely playable games and they know almost no one would buy them directly so they sell these bundles with 30+ random steam keys, promissing at least one good game on the bundle. So they make money without really making games
Nobody noticed that the cat girls in the last game are the characters from nekopara but with different names. Random and bizarre.
17:31 the fact that the girls are literally just stolen designs from nekopara and they just gave them different names is actually so funny
I love how you were able to canonically end the second game early
I am actually dying laughing that the "town" in the second game is a "stall" LOL and no dialogue... omg! The slow bat death!?? That was "lame" I mean Lamu!?? I can't deal OMG lmaoo
"That was Lame, I mean Lamu" JOSH STOP I'M DYING XD
The name change from Gothilla to Godzilla made me laugh harder than I'd like to admit
17:35 ARE THOSE THE CHARACTERS FROM NEKOPARA 😂???
Maybe the “toilet paper rolls” outside of the doors are for the cat girls to scratch and play with because oftentimes real cats like to play with toilet paper rolls? I have no idea… lol…
as someone who is planning on making a farming game, now I know that I can't just throw things in a program, hope for the best, and release it. what a shame🤣 (complete sarcasm, intended)
The amount of shade, burn, and sass!!! I love it!
I laughed so much when you said “we see the beautifully face lifted main menu” hahaha.
I'm someone who doesn't program and I've been messing around with a project to develop an HM fan game using the BYOND engine and the first game mystified me because the core gameplay seems to be barely functional. It's like looking at the fangame I'm afraid to make but it's a game people buy for real money. The diagonal movement thing is something I ironed out quickly referring to documentation by others so I'm sure for whatever engine Wild Seasons was made in... SURELY someone had documented a way to fix this very, very common issue in pixel games? And the fact putting items into the shipping bin is so difficult is craaaazy, one of the first things I implemented was picking up items and putting them into the tile your player is facing... I'm actually not sure how they messed this up given the engine seems to be RPG maker?
So, basically, what I'm saying is as someone with next to no coding experience who is making a fan game for free, the immediate issues jumping out at me are ones I fixed within a few hours of studying and troubleshooting. Wow. I feel so bad for anyone who kickstarted this. My condolences, y'all.
Even when farming sims are good, they dont have a really big fanbase- farming/gardening is already such a boring task and can be such a hit or miss with casual gamers and thats with like actually well designed farm games. i cant imagine how awful bad ones can be.
Lol I think those are actually supposed to be toilet paper rolls in that last game. Maybe as a reference to how cats like to unravel toilet paper rolls? It's kind of a shame, that last one could've been fun if they leaned more into a quirky cat girls push you into debt and it didn't feel so spaced out for no reason
The speed walking NPCs in the first game are too too funny! I laughed out loud
Funny enough, I think a Godzilla farming game could be more fun than these ones you played today. xD
Thank you so much for this. I'm in the process of developing my own farming sim and this is fantastic, organic research as to what NOT to do for my upcoming game. Eventually, I'd love to share the game details with your community via discord to simply see what their thoughts on it are and get some active feedback. 😊❤️
Love this !
You should definitely know your blood type, not for the kooky reasons people will have you believe, but in case you need a transfusion, have it written somewhere with you always.
I watch you since the SoS: PoOT videos you made and I love how your humour has developed! You entertain is so much and I am sorry for this suffering you had to endure.
the debt game looks like stardew valley, sun haven, roots of pacha and traveller's rest had a really fucked up lovechild (looks like stolen assets, there's an uncanny resemblance to some of the items in each game)
One funny thing about the first game, at 4:19 you talk about bad scrolling. I'm currently playing the latest title of simply the biggest company in the genre, and even thou it is supposedly a pc game, there is no scrolling at all.... You can only drag the inventory or the scroll bar.... This is one of the most frustrating things in RF5, lol
"that was lame - i mean lamu" - lmaoooooo
Wild Season was dropped. I did back the game.... They abandoned it, sadly, and never released the entire thing, just a partial game. Honestly I don't understand how/why it wasn't pulled from the Steam storefront... I would gladly give you access to more info, sadly the dev posted Kickstarter updates that you could only read on their now (dead) website.
Steam probably doesn’t pull games because they still get a hefty cut of the game cost.
Josh: So that was lame, I mean.. Lamu, i couldn't stop laughing!!! haha i hope you got an instant refund!!! xD
I'm working on making a narrative puzzle game (some VN style, some 2.5d), but I still like videos like these because it's a good "what NOT to do" sort of thing.
Thank you for suffering for us, Josh! I'd be interested in a part 2. When I looked at Wild Season on Steam I didn't see an option to buy it, strange. One of the worst games I played lately was Spellfarers, a free to play cozy MMO type game similar to Palia. But the controls were pretty bad...among other things.😅
Oh wow the catgirls from farm dbet repay life are stolen assets 😂😭
Literally Cinnamon, Azuki, and Maple from Nekopara (not a farming sim, look up at your own risk)
The absolute audacity of Wild Season to copy the map from FoMT on top of everything else! It may not be a 1:1 recreation, but I noticed the uncanny similarity as soon so you started walking around the farm. 🙃
I was thinking THE SAME THING!
What’s fomt?
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I laughed way too much watching the lamu section. Thank you Josh for putting yourself through this
A Nekopara farming sim sounds pretty cool...wait wtf do you mean "Lotas" and "Gothilia"?
I love how logical your explanations on how each game could improve! Bizarre how they charge so much for these when they clearly aren't ready. I hope their devs see this video!! And looking forward to more!!
I never comment on anything but this video was so funny that I have to "recommend" two very bad games for you to waste more of your sanity on.
First is "Pretty Princess Magical Garden Island," as far as I know it's only available on Switch, but it's a terrible Animal Crossing clone with bad controls and game mechanics. I wanted to enjoy this game -- really, I did -- but even the "pretty princess" veneer wasn't enough to make me want to play more.
Second is "Brookhaven Grimoire," a game that has so many problems I don't know where to start. Aside from looking like it stole assets straight from Stardew Valley, it has enough mechanical issues to render it unplayable, the story hook starts intriguing and goes right into "disturbing," and on top of everything else, it has been abandoned by the dev. Honestly I felt so bad about buying this game that I uninstalled it and hid it on my games library.
If you review either of these games (or both? haha /jk but what if), I would be both elated and VERY sympathetic for what you'd have to go through.
I can't believe how hard this video made me laugh. The first time I lost it is Josh's deadpan delivery of "here they're walking much faster without even having to go diagonally."
The worst farming game I've played is called World's Dawn. Much like these it barely worked and was not fun. The map design was horrible, the controls felt unresponsive, and lots of things did not make sense. It might have improved since I played it since it has a "very positive" rating on Steam now.
Lamu's characters are just from Nekopara, an entirely different property that they don't own.
yay!!! i'm so glad you made this video.
it's always so much fun to watch you review those disasters LOL it's my favorite type of video
i had a very difficult week and my depression was kicking my butt and making me reconsider being on this planet, so thank you Josh for always posting amazing content.
i'm sure everybody would love to see more of this type of video!!
"nothing against facelifts"
I feel your pain Josh- I think the worst farming game I played was Big Farm Story. I don't mind grinding in a game, but this was just stupid LOL
I love constructive criticism with actual helpful ways to improve the game.
Most of these are shovelware. The devs have no intention of improving the game, they just want a quick buck
@@catsplat1272 I know but it’s nice to point out all the flaws in detail instead of just saying “oh it looks bad. It’s bland it’s boring” ect
@@brittanyxxbabyxx2186 It does help with people learning about developing, same can be applied to all arts.
But then there is a point where the flaws are so obvious, if you can't see them, you should never contribute to that art form yourself (Big rigs comes to mind).
i actually noticed that in "Farm Dbet Repay Life" the cat girls are stolen from a visual novel called Nekopara! They just made pixel versions of the characters and slightly changed them for their game! Their names are all different, but im so confused on why they didn't just make their own cat girls 🤣
That Wild Season sure reminds me of Harvest Moon BTN. Lamu really looks like an Early Access game. I guess for the last game, the naming was messed up when they translated it into English.
The Wild Season looked promosing and probably would have been a nice game after some polishing,but it was abandoned. Too bad.
Supposedly (never got that far in) episode 1 ends with something taking your animals
The wild seasons mayor looks exactly like harvest moon / story of season's mayor Thomas 😂 it feels like it's trying very hard to be an old harvest moon game
Raise your hand if you were a victim of Wild Seasons ✋
*Was one of the backers 😭
Oh gosh this is gonna be a ton of disasters isnt it....
Edit: the repay debt mechanic in the last game is interesting. Too bad it's not super polished as a game.
Valthirian Arc: Hero School Story is just about the most disappointing game I've ever played. It doesn't really get bad till the end, where the quests you need to level up your students reasonably have just all disappeared and the story progression stops because you can't level up your newer students! It's like it punishes you for doing the thing that increases your school's reputation, which is graduating the damn students.
It was especially frustrating because it was a game I wanted to like, I had played Valthirian Arc on Kongregate a long time ago and had a good time, and didn't remember that previous game having the same sort of frustrating progression issues late game that this one had.
Wild season is def an rpg maker game lol
Yepp, thought so too.
Adding my like for part 2! More please!
I was scared my demo would appear in this list lol
you're safe! 😅
Got me laughing at "helllllo with 5 Ls" 😂
it's interesting how stark the difference in presentation is in poorly made farming games before and after stardew valley hit it big. truly a game that revolutionised the genre.
Toilet paper rolls above the doors make sense... they're cats, probably scratch at them
Wild Season was such a scam. They started as early access and once they earned money from a kickstarter and early purchases they just ghosted everyone. Still upset about the $20 or so that I will never get back. It's why I'm so hesitant to buy early access games nowadays unless I've heard REALLY good things and the devs are transparent and active.
20:50 what an interesting decoration style 😂🧻
Did you set timers so you could refund the games if they were bad? 10+ bucks is not a small amount of money.
Lamu seems like a partly skeleton of what can be a good game, but it also shouldn't be in early access yet (or it should be free). It's almost like this is their way to raise money to develop the game and it's just the start instead of something far enough along for play testing (so early access).
Lolllll the toilet paper roll lamps 😂😂😂😂😂
red X as next button gives me physical pain. I wonder if there's some buggery going on that shunts the coordinates and graphics for the buttons to weird places and/or overlap
Hey Josh, long time casual viewer. Like you, I got my finger on the pulse of farming sims (first was Harvest Moon 3 on GBC). Keep this up: the farming game niche is exploding, and I've been scammed so many times on promising looking games by this point I could probably fund the development of my own
Hey that's me! The first review for Lamu xD what a joke of a game
I see we had a very similar experience 😆 I hope you got a refund!
@@JoshGamingGarden I did right away! By the way, money is dropped by killing the bats 🤣 and the bat followed me into my house! I'm saddened by farm debt repay life, I have that for a while but haven't booted it up yet, might not be able to get a refund now. I thought they seemed similar but never made the connection
There's no need to do a part two. Bless you, Josh 🤣
The option to just sell the farm and have the game end is absolutely hilarious, especially since it's clearly the superior choice 😂
Tbh, the whole review was hilarious, your sarcasm is just great 😂
I love that the fact that they sometimes translate Gothilia as Godzilla.
I absolutely want to see more videos like this lol. Though, I'm sorry for the anguish this must cause you...
Loool I hope you can write these purchases off as business expenses 😂
Wild Season was also going to be sold in 4 episodes (each episode unlocking a season iirc).
Did any of the other episodes come out? Scummy regardless.
ETA: Monster Harvest had similar issues to I saw being talked about on Wild Harvest. The Devs don't even seem to have it in their page. As someone who was active in the Discord and saw how things went I can't even sarcastically say big shocker
Nope the dev claimed oh we're handing off to another studio then nothing ever ever again
Wow, I've played amateur rpg maker games that were 10 times better.
Definitely would be interested in more of these videos!
As a pokemon fan, Nexomon somehow manages to be even easier and more dumbed down than gen 1-2 pokemon. However I give the prize for worse pokemonlike to TemTem. Ridiculous economy, needless mmo mechanics, increasingly expensive "micro" transactions, charging players $5 for a single use dye. Just remember kids it takes skill and tact to pull off making a game out of spite for another game, neither of wich crema had.
I've heard good things about Cassette Beasts as a Poké-alike at least
I have so much respect you played so much of that first game, it looks terrible! Looks like the developers not put love into that one, and selling it for 19 dollars is crazy!
I'm so used to recent farming games taking cues from Stardew's artstyle and UI, it's crazy that Wild Seasons immediately reminded me of Harvest Moon FOMT. That's the only thing I can say about this abandonware lol.
It released a year before Stardew Valley did! Indie farming sims were so rare at that time, but yeah you can tell they took a lot from FOMT!
@JoshGamingGarden oh, that's even more fascinating! Amusing to think in another timeline, this game could've taken off as /the/ indie farming sim, but alas 😅
Fellow Qc! Just found your channel and enjoyed this video a lot!
This is basically a battle of how many features are working for the amount paid😂
In Lamu the bat doesn't kill you, it's actually rabies slowly cutting your health.
Why is the guy in the first game wearing a ghost bandana (Hitaikakushi)? Did he die in the accident? Was that supposed to be a twist?
ahhhh the wild seasons. I remember the drama when it launched lol thank god i was a poor student who couldn't do kickstarter back then
It sounded really promising and the devs did live stream on twitch i think? few times too so it looked like it was going to come out all good lol
16:14 reminds me a lot of the Perfection "end" of Stardew Valley.