Love it or hate it you have to respect the Legion for having reached such a mass. It is one of the biggest empires in post war america, prints its own money, has its own army, its own politics and religion and is overall a well oiled machine
@angrybanana5476 The Legion is actually morally grey. The Courier's dialog with Caesar alone is enough for that. The problem with the Legion is the extreme things they do that are not relevant to their goal of "security at any cost", such as the persecution of women (yeah, women were not exactly legally equal to men in Roman society, but they could be far more than just slaves and incubation tanks). This makes them cartoonish and unrealistically "evil for the sake of being evil".
He didn’t emulate the Roman Republic or Empire, he beat tribals that didn’t know any better into a form resembling the crude understanding that Edward had of the organization of a Roman Legion during the Republican period.
I did actually have the thought during my playthroughs that Lanius was actually overplayed a little bit. He sounded like such a ruthless warrior, and if he was that enraged that his own tribe surrendered how in the hell would the courier convince him to surrender? Even considering what happened to the example, Joshua Graham? Just didn't make sense to me. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Caesar planted lots of fake Lanius around the wasteland just to keep his forces in check.
@@breakerdawn8429 Come on, this is Fallout. Suspension of disbelief is part of the fun. It could make sense in this more supernatural and unusual depicted dystopia.
@@breakerdawn8429I think it’s possible that “Lanius” is the mask more than the man behind the mask. It’s quite possible that the Lanius we meet isn’t the first or only one. Hell, just take a look at his face. He’s supposed to be scarred up, but he isn’t. It’s quite possible that a previous Lanius was and that’s the story that Caesar tells. But at the same time, others tell stories of how fierce Lanius was as a child of the Legion, which contradicts Caesar’s story since Lanius was a fully grown man when Caesar met him. I think it’s extremely likely that there always has been more than one Lanius.
Lanius is far more intelligent than anyone gives him credit for, thats a main facet of his character. He’s more than just some mindless warrior, he’s a military tactician (hailed as a genius) who correctly surmises that when faced with defeat by the courier it’s better to retreat than to allow outright destruction. It’s also important to remember that Lanius has likely been with Caesar long enough to completely mature and focus his will into building the legion rather than unrepentant slaughter.
The legion is the only competant faction in the wasteland since they dont need the courier to accomplish any of their goals. The courier helps, but caesar has his own agents ready to go.
@@AmericanBrit9834arguably Legion territory is incredibly stable. At least according to the lore since we don’t get to see proper legion territory. I agree it won’t work long term unless the top brass can ensure a clean transition of power over time. Which I doubt is possible in the wasteland.
@@DefeatedRoyalist Difficult for the wasteland, outright impossible for the Legion. Caesar effectively created a cult of personality for himself. It is downright impossible to fill in a gap like that.
This is how you can tell that New Vegas was written by former Interplay employees. The writing is so good that Todd Howard fumes to this day that New Vegas is still the overall favorite of past, current, and future fans.😂
@@redterrorproductions1373They nuked NCR in the TV series off screen.vthe biggest faction was nuked, and Todd's favorite faction (the BoS) are the new biggest power. Despite it being established that the brotherhood of steel and Super Mutants came from the west. Super Mutants are still numerous because FEV must not be that rare since there's a new strain in every Bethesda game. In another state. In terms of the brotherhood. A dying institution in the west. Is the powerhouse of the east in fallout 4 and 76. Additionally the Enclave despite being Mostly extinguished in fallout 2. The west. And in the east in fallout 3. Bethesda cannot let go of Todd's favorite factions. The brotherhood and the Enclave They cannot let go.
@@oldomen3788 don't even, Interplay literally made the brotherhood way more important than it needed to be in 2, at least Obsidian nixed it in NV Todd doesn't care lol, he's probably happy because it's still a cash cow for Bethesda Don't fanboy, it's damn annoying
@@Ayem427 hey. We can disagree, but I do think the bethesdadisation of turning a Philosophical horror game into a 1950s aesthetic action comedy RPG In 4, 76 and TV show. (With poorer writing). I like fallout 3... But it's vastly inferior to New Vegas in terms of story. It certainly looks like Bethesda can't let go of the Brotherhood and want to fanboy off of that faction, hell with the lore. It to me seems apparent with a historical and popular faction like the NCR is just wiped out. They've been bastardized
@@Ayem427 it is. It's like when Disney bought Star wars. Now I'm not the biggest fan of these games, but I do love them. They are very good and when I go back and play them I want to be able to play them knowing that the continuity is still coherent. Todd Howard's biggest issue is that his narcissism can't stand that his games aren't the fan favorites. Fallout New Vegas, at least in my mind, is solidly Obsidian's game. And the fact that former interplay employees made the current fan favorite, and probably the fan favorite for all time mind you, is just icing on the s*** cake for him. He does nothing but defile something that was once great. It was going somewhere with Van Buren. I think interplay could have done a better MMO as well. He can only mimic real creativity. Sounds kind of like the devil!
I'll add, the only situation in which a female courier can fight in the arena, is against dogs or Benny. Always an exception to the rule as usual with the legion.
Maybe im still baked but maybe covering Joshua Graham in pitch and setting him on fire was Caesar's parting gift to him. He knew Joshua wasn't from his group and he roped him into it. He knew the pitch burns on the outside and the fall is short. If god wanted him to live thats on him. Its messed up but honestly why even send men after him if you know he's dead? Caesar knows hes alive because he wants him alive.
The first faction i get vilified by, simply for the assassin squads. Its a nice source of caps l even tho I already got over 200K but....its not about the money
@@AllenReyes-991 considering that I called them the most brutal faction it’s obvious that I know they are evil. I never tried justifying their atrocities, or even arguing in favor of the legion or anything like that, I’ve only said they’re the most brutal with a respectable charismatic leader. And funnily enough I’m 99% sure in-game Caesar actually has neutral karma
Before this video, i always referred to Caesar's Legion as the Neo Roman Empire when talking about it like a Nation State, after this, i now think it wouldve most like called itself just the "Roman Empire"
Small correction not really related to legion. Desert Rangers arent exactly precursors of NCR Rangers, those two were separate organizations with separate, long histories. Desert Rangers got absorbed into the ranks of NCR Rangers when they joined the Republic
I am in fear that the legion wont go down quiet in the end, legion is very likely to maintain as a large threat with it only issue bieng it own ranks since it over issue of realying on a single leader would encourage cloak and dagger it likely that lanuies would be able to keep an hold but it be loose at best
Isnt if fun that the tv show makes the cononical ending " it dosent matter because more nukes went off and reset 200 years of history back to where we where at the beginning of faoout 1 "
@dalton6108 ya. It's frustrating. If you don't follow the story of the thing you share a continuity with then you shouldn't be able to advertise your thing as part of it
The legend in game was alright but so mutch was cut it’s a shame there was supposed to be so mutch more there are lots of lore friendly mods to help thaw
All the tough guys talking shit about the Legion are emitting a lot of virtue signals, I see. We get it, you hate the Legion because they're slavers and sexists and etc. Seriously, I'm starting to think you people either hate fun and storytelling, OR you are projecting your inner sexism and imperialist opinions. Which is it?
Small teeny tiny nerdy correction. Synthesis, thesis and antithesis are not a part of Hegelian dialectics. Also Marxist and Hegelian dialectics are very different (Marxist dialectics being more materialist). Great vid id love to see more like this
Ceasar was a fool, he built himself up as an intellectual but when you look at what he actually did you realize he's just another dumb raider. You, the player can kill every single legion in the Mojave and he'll say, yeah this guy murdered a whole legion camp, ruined my plan to destroy the monorail, ruined my plan to recruit the khans, got the brotherhood, khans, and boomers to join the NCR but hey he killed that guy that shot him so all is forgiven let him walk right up to me because what could go wrong?
You do realize without "player character syndrome" that we, as the player, would have been shot dead instantly for even trying to kill Caeser...right? Dude disarms you before you're even allowed into his camp, and forces your companion outside his tent as well. He is surrounded by his most powerful and trusted guard, six of them, plus himself. Dude realizes he would benefit more if you were with him rather then against, that is why he extended an olive branch and even forgave your transgressions against the Legion. This isn't like the NCR, who did/does the exact same thing, who just lets you waltz up to the main NCR guy in New Vegas, with all your weapons, and expect you to not cap him in the head...least they could have done was disarm you.
@@Rpground And then he gives you your weapons back and tells you to go blow something up and never sends someone to ensure you in fact destroyed the bunker, assuming you didn't just shoot the guard and run in to slaughter him since you don't have to deal with the gate guards now.
@@Halvos12your equipment is still taken away in the weather station and you're still surrounded by praetorians. Every precaution was taken to prevent you from killing Caesar.
@@CaesarSonOfMars And given you can sneak hold out weapons past the guards the only thing stopping you from putting a bullet in his head is the fact that most players don't do enough damage to win using a .22 but without the game mechanics as you mentioned before believe it or not a .22 is still deadly.
@@Halvos12 theres actually only a few spots in ceasars tent where you can kill him with a sneak critical with a .22. even with a stealth boy, why would you waste a stealth boy to kill him with a .22?
Since it was asked what I think about them: Intense revulsion, and shoot to kill on sight, extremely sparse exceptions. Message to Caesar as I enter his tent: "Sic semper tyrannis."
Maybe I'm baked but maybe lanius is a ghoul or super mutant of some kind. @ 59 mins. Ghouls and mutants are somewhat accepted in the legion but I don't think they could be accepted heroes. Caesar would have his reasons to conceal the fact that he was relying on non traditional help. And explain the wildly contradictory back story of lanius in game.
cuz its considered iconic for fallout. its basically its theme song all the fallout menu background music has it but its fluffed up in different ways. all franchises do it. elder scrolls is a big example of it too.
@@cpob2013the problem is that they are Attila holding their own against the Vietnam era US army. That makes no sense, a faction that has semi-automatic rifles, proper artillery, machine guns, real firepower on their side, would crush the legion in any realistic scenario. It is unbelievable that they stood up to the NCR for as long as they did. Any research into real history will show you that that kind of technology disparity would result in a slaughter, no matter their competence or their enemy's incompetence
@@romitkumar6272The game has been out for over a decade, and people still pretend the Legion totally ignores firearms and other technology. Wild. Not to mention, guns alone don't win wars.
@@HelghastGrunt the legion does use guns, it just uses really shitty ones like lever actions and bolt actions, and not in large enough numbers to make a difference. And since they don't have a supply base of ammunition because they loot their guns and ammo rather than manufacturing them, the guns they do have might as well not exist. And yes guns are the only determining factor in any large scale conflict with this much technological disparity. Ask the samurai or the zulu what happens when you storm a machine gun nest with sharp sticks.
I love this video, but Caesars legion is the SpongeBob glove world kid rollercoaster of the fallout factions which is a failure and just pathetic faction compared to others and it is impossible to talk about Ceasar and name 1 thing they did right none and it's impossible to not talk about the dump truck of awful things Ceasar has done in his "Legion"
Nerd activated: The have cleared their territory of all hostile things; raiders, slaver, savage tribes, feral mutants, all hostile wild life. Drugs and alcohol is gone. All citizens get an abundance of food, water, and electricity. There's no corruption. They atleast give their opps the choice to join and make good use of their pathetic lives instead of just outright committing genocide like the NCR, BoS, Minutemen etc That's more than "1 thing" 🤓🤓🤓
@@uhhyeacoolman2786I'm sure the safe roads and supplies are worth knowing every woman in your life is either a breeding machine or a slave if they're old, yk, like your mom
@@uhhyeacoolman2786 most get abused and become part of legion either as a slave or a legionary also they did not need to destroy new-Caanan and dogtown like wtf Ceasar like i said everytime you made a point about him their is always be bad things about him
Caesar's Legion: Reddit's Most Feared Faction
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you mean reddits most beloved faction
@@cameraslimeno that’s ncr or railroad
@@cameraslime, c'mon, really?
Finally, the complete compendium to the Legion in its entirety.
It's got all of the lore.
Chefs kiss.
Thank you, very much.
Love it or hate it you have to respect the Legion for having reached such a mass. It is one of the biggest empires in post war america, prints its own money, has its own army, its own politics and religion and is overall a well oiled machine
Its the second biggest one we know, actually one of the only two we know
And they did all that in like 30 something years.
And their leader is on the front lines.
Ngl The legion had the best quests, like blowing up the monorail or killing Kimball
I just wish they had more tbh, would’ve loved to see the legion towns they had planned.
@Iron_Age yea, it sucked that they cut that out since the legion is supposed to be morally grey , but being a fascist terrorist is still fun
@@angrybanana5476they’re evil but at least lawful evil
@angrybanana5476 The Legion is actually morally grey. The Courier's dialog with Caesar alone is enough for that. The problem with the Legion is the extreme things they do that are not relevant to their goal of "security at any cost", such as the persecution of women (yeah, women were not exactly legally equal to men in Roman society, but they could be far more than just slaves and incubation tanks). This makes them cartoonish and unrealistically "evil for the sake of being evil".
@@Iron_Age
Honestly Cesar’s outlook on things is much more in line with Sparta’s golden age than the transition from republic to empire.
He didn’t emulate the Roman Republic or Empire, he beat tribals that didn’t know any better into a form resembling the crude understanding that Edward had of the organization of a Roman Legion during the Republican period.
I did actually have the thought during my playthroughs that Lanius was actually overplayed a little bit.
He sounded like such a ruthless warrior, and if he was that enraged that his own tribe surrendered how in the hell would the courier convince him to surrender? Even considering what happened to the example, Joshua Graham? Just didn't make sense to me.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Caesar planted lots of fake Lanius around the wasteland just to keep his forces in check.
Thats kinda the point of Lanius lol hes more myth than person
So you're telling me he has a few dozens of 7 foot men all around the Legion territory?
@@breakerdawn8429 Come on, this is Fallout.
Suspension of disbelief is part of the fun. It could make sense in this more supernatural and unusual depicted dystopia.
@@breakerdawn8429I think it’s possible that “Lanius” is the mask more than the man behind the mask. It’s quite possible that the Lanius we meet isn’t the first or only one. Hell, just take a look at his face. He’s supposed to be scarred up, but he isn’t. It’s quite possible that a previous Lanius was and that’s the story that Caesar tells. But at the same time, others tell stories of how fierce Lanius was as a child of the Legion, which contradicts Caesar’s story since Lanius was a fully grown man when Caesar met him.
I think it’s extremely likely that there always has been more than one Lanius.
Lanius is far more intelligent than anyone gives him credit for, thats a main facet of his character. He’s more than just some mindless warrior, he’s a military tactician (hailed as a genius) who correctly surmises that when faced with defeat by the courier it’s better to retreat than to allow outright destruction.
It’s also important to remember that Lanius has likely been with Caesar long enough to completely mature and focus his will into building the legion rather than unrepentant slaughter.
Love how new vegas continues to be dissected
dont get me wrong cuz i like new vegas and i enjoyed this video but its also easy views lol
@@owningkoningtbf faction like the Legion, would probably never be made especially in this new age. At least without a significant changes.
@@breakerdawn8429Is a world wide nuclear war not a significant enough change?
Figure that's a pretty world altering event.
All of the Fallouts do lol, NV is just the best for views
The legion is my go to faction in NV I absolutely love them
Amicus
Ave, Amicus
Ave, amice!
The Legion would be better if they had more time to polish the game
The Roman name for Odysseus is Ulysses. The name is a Latinized version of the Greek name Odysseus
Very interesting
They sound like a decent group of lads
The legion is the only competant faction in the wasteland since they dont need the courier to accomplish any of their goals. The courier helps, but caesar has his own agents ready to go.
The legion literally only has numbers, that’s it. If House gets his way they are driven from the field like whipped dogs.
Eh, competent in that they don't need the player's help? Yes. Competent in creating a stable and long-thriving empire? No and hell no.
@@AmericanBrit9834 yeah the legions whole premise is to be long lasting but that isn't counting Caesars death or if they stop expanding.
@@AmericanBrit9834arguably Legion territory is incredibly stable. At least according to the lore since we don’t get to see proper legion territory.
I agree it won’t work long term unless the top brass can ensure a clean transition of power over time. Which I doubt is possible in the wasteland.
@@DefeatedRoyalist Difficult for the wasteland, outright impossible for the Legion. Caesar effectively created a cult of personality for himself. It is downright impossible to fill in a gap like that.
This is how you can tell that New Vegas was written by former Interplay employees. The writing is so good that Todd Howard fumes to this day that New Vegas is still the overall favorite of past, current, and future fans.😂
?? Todd howard isn't mad
@@redterrorproductions1373They nuked NCR in the TV series off screen.vthe biggest faction was nuked, and Todd's favorite faction (the BoS) are the new biggest power.
Despite it being established that the brotherhood of steel and Super Mutants came from the west.
Super Mutants are still numerous because FEV must not be that rare since there's a new strain in every Bethesda game. In another state.
In terms of the brotherhood. A dying institution in the west. Is the powerhouse of the east in fallout 4 and 76.
Additionally the Enclave despite being Mostly extinguished in fallout 2. The west.
And in the east in fallout 3.
Bethesda cannot let go of Todd's favorite factions. The brotherhood and the Enclave
They cannot let go.
@@oldomen3788 don't even, Interplay literally made the brotherhood way more important than it needed to be in 2, at least Obsidian nixed it in NV
Todd doesn't care lol, he's probably happy because it's still a cash cow for Bethesda
Don't fanboy, it's damn annoying
@@Ayem427 hey. We can disagree, but I do think the bethesdadisation of turning a Philosophical horror game into a 1950s aesthetic action comedy RPG
In 4, 76 and TV show. (With poorer writing).
I like fallout 3... But it's vastly inferior to New Vegas in terms of story.
It certainly looks like Bethesda can't let go of the Brotherhood and want to fanboy off of that faction, hell with the lore.
It to me seems apparent with a historical and popular faction like the NCR is just wiped out. They've been bastardized
@@Ayem427 it is. It's like when Disney bought Star wars. Now I'm not the biggest fan of these games, but I do love them. They are very good and when I go back and play them I want to be able to play them knowing that the continuity is still coherent.
Todd Howard's biggest issue is that his narcissism can't stand that his games aren't the fan favorites. Fallout New Vegas, at least in my mind, is solidly Obsidian's game. And the fact that former interplay employees made the current fan favorite, and probably the fan favorite for all time mind you, is just icing on the s*** cake for him.
He does nothing but defile something that was once great. It was going somewhere with Van Buren. I think interplay could have done a better MMO as well.
He can only mimic real creativity. Sounds kind of like the devil!
Amazing just simply amazing and I love the legion in New Vegas keep up the amazing work
Glad you like it! There will be more to come.
@@Iron_Age amazing I can’t wait to see them
I'll add, the only situation in which a female courier can fight in the arena, is against dogs or Benny. Always an exception to the rule as usual with the legion.
Hypocrisy is rampant in all the factions. Definitely another reason why New Vegas is so good!
I'm starting to think I might be a legionnaire.
Maybe im still baked but maybe covering Joshua Graham in pitch and setting him on fire was Caesar's parting gift to him. He knew Joshua wasn't from his group and he roped him into it. He knew the pitch burns on the outside and the fall is short. If god wanted him to live thats on him. Its messed up but honestly why even send men after him if you know he's dead? Caesar knows hes alive because he wants him alive.
Youre still baked xDDD
You're giving Ceasar too much credit, if he was that competent, his first attempt at taking the dam would've been successful.
Later he for sure wants him dead so why not kill him then and there. Cesar shows no sympathy for Joshua in what little were shown and told
Toss my salad, Caesar!
The first faction i get vilified by, simply for the assassin squads. Its a nice source of caps l even tho I already got over 200K but....its not about the money
I get more dosh from the Rangers, plus they're so easy to kill off even on Very Hard
this is the Way
I don’t think you know how to use the word vilify
Based
This is awesome dude. Thanks for taking the time to put all of this together!
Most brutal faction with a respectful leader
Personally I can only respect Caesar after I feed him a mini nuke.
Caesar is actually incredibly stupid, and not respectful at all lmao
@@AllenReyes-991 considering that I called them the most brutal faction it’s obvious that I know they are evil. I never tried justifying their atrocities, or even arguing in favor of the legion or anything like that, I’ve only said they’re the most brutal with a respectable charismatic leader. And funnily enough I’m 99% sure in-game Caesar actually has neutral karma
@DirtyDev this guy spends WAY too much time in NV Reddit debates. He was absolutely frothing to counter points you didn't even make 😂
@@RevulsiveLooper exactly lol
LANIUS IS THE BEAST OF THE EAST
toke me 5 minutes to kill him so called 'Beast from the east" my ass is better the Lanius
Lanius the beast of the East? More like Deceased.
@@neiabaraja8040 HE WOULD SNAP YOU IN HALF YOU NERD
“I have the-I have the most slaves!” - Caesar, probably
Before this video, i always referred to Caesar's Legion as the Neo Roman Empire when talking about it like a Nation State, after this, i now think it wouldve most like called itself just the "Roman Empire"
Small correction not really related to legion. Desert Rangers arent exactly precursors of NCR Rangers, those two were separate organizations with separate, long histories. Desert Rangers got absorbed into the ranks of NCR Rangers when they joined the Republic
Vuples took an orbital laser to the face 🤷♀️
As he should
Vulpes is to goated to be killed
@@morbidzombii tell that to me and my Big Iron. Throw him on the burn pile in Nipton every time.
I tried to fulfil my threat and wear Vulpes' head, but it wasn't equiptable. :(
When i read the title i thought it was gonna be a video about the republic of Dave, caesar is still a good runner up though
My only regret is that you can't send them *more* Hopeville missiles.
Nice profile picture, do you have the name of the artist?
@@AdaraHepburn938 oh, some random picrew from like six years ago, sorry 😅
Average anime pfp take
@@someshtbaglcpl5455 ok fascist 🤣
@@someshtbaglcpl5455 cope
Bold claim for someone in bradley-hercules range.
My legion playthrough was my favorite one thus far, but im working on an ncr playthrough now
what the hell did that beginning bit about the rule of 3 have to do with anything
Thank you so much for this video ❤
Ave true to caesar
My favorite TH-camr finally uploaded😚
Thank you Mr bobbyb
Looks like Dustin Poirier
23:55 "Joshua would live this" lmao great video tho
They honestly should have inspired more so off of Sparta
I am in fear that the legion wont go down quiet in the end, legion is very likely to maintain as a large threat with it only issue bieng it own ranks since it over issue of realying on a single leader would encourage cloak and dagger it likely that lanuies would be able to keep an hold but it be loose at best
My playthroughs usually end the same. No Gods, no masters, except for me.
Ain't that a kick in the head.
I have played numerous playthroughs over the years, but never the Legion storyline. I always get on their bad side early on 😂
Isnt if fun that the tv show makes the cononical ending " it dosent matter because more nukes went off and reset 200 years of history back to where we where at the beginning of faoout 1 "
Guess they don’t want a halo experience. They get to make their own story instead of making sure it fits the lore.
@dalton6108 ya. It's frustrating. If you don't follow the story of the thing you share a continuity with then you shouldn't be able to advertise your thing as part of it
The legend in game was alright but so mutch was cut it’s a shame there was supposed to be so mutch more there are lots of lore friendly mods to help thaw
Ulysses is the roman name for the greek odysseus
MY LEG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only thing scary about the legion was their bloated hp values
well done 👍🏻
Hail ceasar
Veni Vidi Vici
Great vid
Crazily enough playing this ever since it came out I have not once sided with the legion I don’t know why but I just can’t
You're not fully experiencing the game if you don't join them at least once. Put your personal beliefs aside and roleplay in the rpg
@@CaesarSonOfMars that is the best way to play no 🧢
All the tough guys talking shit about the Legion are emitting a lot of virtue signals, I see.
We get it, you hate the Legion because they're slavers and sexists and etc.
Seriously, I'm starting to think you people either hate fun and storytelling, OR you are projecting your inner sexism and imperialist opinions.
Which is it?
Neither, it's just Reddit brain. A.K.A Neoliberalism.
Reddit brain. Not as bad as twitter brain, but reddit brain is still a toxic mess.
Didn’t seem so scary when Veronica and I swung through their camp with shotguns
Small teeny tiny nerdy correction. Synthesis, thesis and antithesis are not a part of Hegelian dialectics. Also Marxist and Hegelian dialectics are very different (Marxist dialectics being more materialist).
Great vid id love to see more like this
3:38
Ave
Ceasar was a fool, he built himself up as an intellectual but when you look at what he actually did you realize he's just another dumb raider. You, the player can kill every single legion in the Mojave and he'll say, yeah this guy murdered a whole legion camp, ruined my plan to destroy the monorail, ruined my plan to recruit the khans, got the brotherhood, khans, and boomers to join the NCR but hey he killed that guy that shot him so all is forgiven let him walk right up to me because what could go wrong?
You do realize without "player character syndrome" that we, as the player, would have been shot dead instantly for even trying to kill Caeser...right? Dude disarms you before you're even allowed into his camp, and forces your companion outside his tent as well. He is surrounded by his most powerful and trusted guard, six of them, plus himself.
Dude realizes he would benefit more if you were with him rather then against, that is why he extended an olive branch and even forgave your transgressions against the Legion.
This isn't like the NCR, who did/does the exact same thing, who just lets you waltz up to the main NCR guy in New Vegas, with all your weapons, and expect you to not cap him in the head...least they could have done was disarm you.
@@Rpground And then he gives you your weapons back and tells you to go blow something up and never sends someone to ensure you in fact destroyed the bunker, assuming you didn't just shoot the guard and run in to slaughter him since you don't have to deal with the gate guards now.
@@Halvos12your equipment is still taken away in the weather station and you're still surrounded by praetorians. Every precaution was taken to prevent you from killing Caesar.
@@CaesarSonOfMars And given you can sneak hold out weapons past the guards the only thing stopping you from putting a bullet in his head is the fact that most players don't do enough damage to win using a .22 but without the game mechanics as you mentioned before believe it or not a .22 is still deadly.
@@Halvos12 theres actually only a few spots in ceasars tent where you can kill him with a sneak critical with a .22. even with a stealth boy, why would you waste a stealth boy to kill him with a .22?
Anyone notice Caesar doing political ads for Kamala Harris? The bull has come lol
i fw this video
Thank ya brotha
Since it was asked what I think about them: Intense revulsion, and shoot to kill on sight, extremely sparse exceptions.
Message to Caesar as I enter his tent: "Sic semper tyrannis."
Maybe I'm baked but maybe lanius is a ghoul or super mutant of some kind. @ 59 mins. Ghouls and mutants are somewhat accepted in the legion but I don't think they could be accepted heroes. Caesar would have his reasons to conceal the fact that he was relying on non traditional help. And explain the wildly contradictory back story of lanius in game.
They are? I thought they were killed.
I fear the "essential" faction, not these literal NPCs
Why does nearly everyone doin lore on whatever fallout game, use this same annoying damned background track from f1 or f2…
To make you ask why
cuz its considered iconic for fallout. its basically its theme song all the fallout menu background music has it but its fluffed up in different ways. all franchises do it. elder scrolls is a big example of it too.
Bro what? It's fire
Feared? Most absurd and unbelievable actually.
How? Societies like the legion fill history books. He's a post apocalypse Attila
@@cpob2013exactly
@@cpob2013the problem is that they are Attila holding their own against the Vietnam era US army. That makes no sense, a faction that has semi-automatic rifles, proper artillery, machine guns, real firepower on their side, would crush the legion in any realistic scenario. It is unbelievable that they stood up to the NCR for as long as they did. Any research into real history will show you that that kind of technology disparity would result in a slaughter, no matter their competence or their enemy's incompetence
@@romitkumar6272The game has been out for over a decade, and people still pretend the Legion totally ignores firearms and other technology. Wild.
Not to mention, guns alone don't win wars.
@@HelghastGrunt the legion does use guns, it just uses really shitty ones like lever actions and bolt actions, and not in large enough numbers to make a difference. And since they don't have a supply base of ammunition because they loot their guns and ammo rather than manufacturing them, the guns they do have might as well not exist.
And yes guns are the only determining factor in any large scale conflict with this much technological disparity. Ask the samurai or the zulu what happens when you storm a machine gun nest with sharp sticks.
I love this video, but Caesars legion is the SpongeBob glove world kid rollercoaster of the fallout factions which is a failure and just pathetic faction compared to others and it is impossible to talk about Ceasar and name 1 thing they did right none and it's impossible to not talk about the dump truck of awful things Ceasar has done in his "Legion"
Nerd activated:
The have cleared their territory of all hostile things; raiders, slaver, savage tribes, feral mutants, all hostile wild life. Drugs and alcohol is gone. All citizens get an abundance of food, water, and electricity. There's no corruption. They atleast give their opps the choice to join and make good use of their pathetic lives instead of just outright committing genocide like the NCR, BoS, Minutemen etc
That's more than "1 thing"
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The Legion has cleared their territory of raiders and dangerous wildlife making it safe for citizens of the Legion dude.
Play the game
@@uhhyeacoolman2786 Also all their citizens get an abundance of food, water, and electricity
@@uhhyeacoolman2786I'm sure the safe roads and supplies are worth knowing every woman in your life is either a breeding machine or a slave if they're old, yk, like your mom
@@uhhyeacoolman2786 most get abused and become part of legion either as a slave or a legionary also they did not need to destroy new-Caanan and dogtown like wtf Ceasar like i said everytime you made a point about him their is always be bad things about him