2013 Lexus ES vs GS 0-60 MPH Mashup Review: What's the best new Lexus sedan?
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- ( www.TFLcar.com ) Here's an interesting question. What is the best new Lexus Sedan? Is it the 2013 Lexus ES300h or is it the 2013 Lexus AWD GS350? The new Lexus ES300h is of course a large 200 horsepower hybrid 4-door Lexus sedan that gets an amazing 40 MPG combined. While the new 2013 Lexus AWD GS350 is also a large 4-door Lexus sedan but with All-wheel-drive and of course a very powerful 3.5L V6 that puts out 306 HP. In another fun and exclusive TFLcar Mashup review we try to find out which of these very similar Lexus sedan's is the better car. It is a matchup of power versus fuel economy or perhaps another way to look at it might be brown versus technology.
I fail to understand the point of this video........obviously the GS is faster, and handles better. They could have at least brought along a regular ES 350 instead of this eco
dats what im tryn look up n this is what they sho me smh
But why.. es is about boring and comfort.. Hybrid makes it more boring and comfort. Why try to make somethign sport that isn't sporty.
yea
@@emeraldages I ride in one every day and that is indeed it.
alpha7ization well in the previous generation, the GS hybrid was the fastest version of it. Well, tied to the V8 version at least.
I think the GS might be my favorite car from Lexus. That thing is beautiful. They did a really good job with the new design.
What about the IS ? What is your opinion on that? Thinking of getting one. Thanks!
@@Sir_BoazMutatayi I had a 2017 IS200t F-Sport for a couple of years & now a 2016 GS350 F-Sport that I just bought last year. While my IS was a fun car, I personally like the GS a lot more. It's a class above so it has a lot more features as well as a higher quality cabin a smoother ride, a lot more interior room especially in the back seat & even better handling. It's easily the best car I've owned so far.
@@DisneyMusicVideos same
13k differnce is huge though. And considering you get almost everything with the ES as you can in the GS. That said, the GS is a very nice car.
@DisneyMusicVideos Just out of curiosity, are you a girl or a guy?
You tested a hybrid against a regular V6 ?????
@Ester Laubersheimer haha stfu ur a robot tryna give ppl virus’s and scam them
My sentiments exactly....!
Bro crazy 11 years later and you channel grew so big, nice job :D
Thanks for the kind comments. Very much appreciated!
Actually we're trying not be like Top Gear. We don't have the budget, the access to cars or the writers. But we appreciate the comparison to what is our favorite car show.
My girls got the 09 ES and the ride is so smooth, nice interior and it always turns heads when we roll up to places
I would take the GS350 F Sport instead. It looks better and drives better than both of these.
One is a great touring car and the other great sports sedan. Both are excellent choices for people that have money and don't like German and American car's nickel and dime method of picking features.
ES is styled more as a luxury vehicle and GS is styled in a modern sports car view
Welcome back. Nice to have around TFL again.
You guys are your own thing, and it's great. You give real-world analysis of how these cars are, and don't do the typical automotive journalist thing I can't stand, which is to review EVERY vehicle, whether a crossover or SUV or minivan, with regard to how it should perform on a race track. You understand what people want to hear about a given vehicle type, and you always hit the important stuff. Plus, the real-world 0-60 is the most helpful and realistic performance metric I've ever seen!
GS is better by a mile.
I would have liked both cars to be non-hybrid tested side-by-side.
Agreed!
These cars have aged so well
I'm glad you presented the ES as a great car because of its mileage and didn't say it's a piece of junk because of cvt, regenerative braking etc etc. Some people want a high end car that gets great mpgs and they aren't going canyon carving with it on the weekends. Great review.
He made the comment a half minute after the video went live. We get hundreds of comments each day and we read them all. We care enough about our viewers to read all of their comments. We would hope that they at least care enough to watch the video before they comment.
The GS is a fantastic car, Lexus finally did something worthwhile with that model.
The self closing trunk and tiny shades on the rear windows of the ES caught me off guard.
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Thanks for the kind comments and thanks for watching. We just took delivery of brand new orange (Sakhir Orange Metallic) 560 HP BMW M6. This could be the fastest 0-60 MPH car that we've ever tested up in Mile High City. Please stay tuned.
We also have GS 300h, basically ES300h on rear wheel drive and body of GS with Safety Sense Toyota like lane departure warning, etc.
The regular es350 without the hybrid would have been much quicker!!
True. But it still would not be the GS. Also it definitely would not take My GS350 F sport. The ES model was made for the wife for grandma no sportiness at all.
@@davolbc The ES is not for so called grandma and the wife anymore....incase you didn't know the GS is now extinct!! lol
That's strange because I just purchased one and it was delivered Today. Maybe the new ES is better than the old one but the gas pedal and the brake pedal when I drove one were nothing like the GS also the steering as well. To each his own I guess.
@@davolbc I should of said that Lexus is no longer selling any new GS in America because of poor sales...the ES outsells it.
Alot of people don't know that the ES stands for "executive sedan" and the Lexus ES nickname was also the baby LS because of the smooth ride and it being biased towards luxury and not sport like the GS.🇺🇸🇯🇲🌴☀️🌴
Well you enjoy driving yours and I will enjoy driving mine. And the G in GS stands for GREAT haha.
I agree. The ES I drove was really low rent inside for a $44K car. The GS interior was the best I have seen. The two cars may look similar inside, but the quality of materials is a world apart between the two.
Its the same
I’m currently pushing GS300 on 7 plate bought at a bargain price but if I have to choose between these two I will go for ES for me it’s always about comfort and reliability.
ES is just a Camry isn’t it ?
This review just further confirms how perfect Lexus is! Loving everything Lexus!!
Ever since I was a kid I been dreaming a Lexus GS sedan I was driving yet this was 1990 ‘s so the whole thing came to life when I saw a GS 2017 😮
The ES is a baby LS ! Great buy
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realllyyyyy great review guys!!!!!! one of my favorites from tfl car
Please watch the video before you make a comment. We talk about this in the video. It's just easier for all of us.
In my opinion you guys are doing marvellous job and also great mashups
We would love to do this mashup but we can't seem to get our paws on a Ford Focus ST.
You guys are a nice change of pace from the other automotive reviews. Question: Among the entry level AWD/4WD sport luxury cars, which one is the most fun to drive?
I drove the older IS-F and the convertible. Both vehicles are better handlers, but they were vastly inferior to the GS for overall ride and competence. The new IS is supposed to be updated, but overall feel is something of a mystery to us. I think, like the last model, the IS will compete with the BMW 3-Series whereas the GS competes with the BMW 5-Series. We'll post the IS video the moment we get our hands on one.
Greatly enjoy your reviews guys. Good job again on this mashup! -------
I wanted to add that one concern that haunts me every time I find myself considering the ES... that tap, tap, tap “plasticy” center console with all of those nice details above and around it. Do you feel me on this? This hurts a bit, but it looks and feels cheap to me . I have trouble picturing the designers/engineers going "this is a great idea, let's skip the leather." Looking forward to the 2014 IS-F review.
The bottom line is that you simply can't go wrong with either car.....
Justin, thanks for the info. For the GS hybrid, its only downfall is the lack of an AWD option. I think Lexus is saying if you want a hybrid AWD vehicle, get a RX 450h, their top-selling crossover. Lexus also has wonderful interiors as well. I was at the Indianapolis Auto Show, and I didn't want to leave the vehicles (especially the ES 300h and GS 350).
bring back the GS
How can we measure the new IS against these two cars when no one has driven it yet? Once again did you watch the video when we mention this fact?
Actually the proper plural of Lexus is just that Lexus
It has a totally different interior and it's larger. That's why it's more expensive.
I was shocked at how harsh the GS is on the road. I test drove both the ES and the GS and the GS feels much more harsh than the ES... Like a German car with giant rims and a sport suspension
+lovin f30 even in eco or normal mode?
Long Ho yes. I think it's aimed at being a sporty Lexus so it felt more firm than a BMW 5 series
What about the IS ??
Great review. Make more of these type of review, not those crazy match up reviews.
Deepanjan - you're speaking my language! I am chomping at the bit to get the Fiesta ST. I think, given its overall price, it may compete with the FIAT 500 Turbo as well. Thanks for watching!
You guys have an excellent sound track and reviews! Thank you for your entertainment! Greetings from Belarus.
No Levinson on the ES. Forget it.
Hey there, sorry for commenting the old post , is the levinson system worth walking away for ? I hear they are pretty good , you would say Deal breaker ?
@@timj41 I ended up getting a slightly used Lincoln Continental. 400 hp all wheel drive and a Revel Sound system. Couldn’t be happier!
Entertaining? Yes. But this video leaves something on the table. The whole story is not told here. I drove both cars here and the GS is leaps and bounds more luxurious than the ES. Did you guys notice the 18 way power seats in the GS? They are sublime. if you take the time to look the GS has way more luxurious touches than the ES.
Both of them are excelent car in their competition in the market
0-60 for the GS was actually 8.10 and the ES350 gets 7.1 in my area so point... ES.
A power opening trunk really isn't a bragging point. Things like that have been around at least since the mid-90s.
Blue always wins over silver, and that is not an opinion, but a fact literally speaking. End of story.
Its like Lexus designed the spindle grill for just the GS, then tries to stick it on every model in their lineup. it looks bad on every other car.
Especially the RX.
Would have been better if they compared Lexus ES 350 and a GS 350 for a more direct comparison. The GS would be better, but by how much?
Well the ES is the full size car so it should be more roomier than the GS which is a mid size sedan. You buy the GS for the sporty look and power. You buy the ES for affordability, smooth ride and roominess. I have owned both and love both but prefer my GS 350 F-Sport.
I heard the gas go faster on the gs.. is that true or the same fuel consumption
@@Catsanime That is true.
Why yes I do! We did an older video with me hanging out in the ES hybrid's trunk.
well you guys win, this is much better than top gear because you actually learn stuff about the cars. thanks
GS is more expensive than ES simply because RWD is more expensive to build than FWD, besides the GS being a bit more refined inside.
John McCann thats the awd model
Just imagine if they made them AWD, it'd be a killer in the 0-60 test!
You should have do e es 350
Totally agree with you there! I don't get it how complicated it is to answer a question properly. You weren't rude or arrogant in any way, so no need for the snooty reply. One would imagine that if you want people to watch your videos, you'd at least try to be polite/nice, but apparently that's not the case with these guys.
need a review and 0-60 time for all new infinti Q50 or Q50S
Actually the ES kicks some real ass because it doesn't need premium gas so even more gas savings than advertised in this video. A pretty compelling case of verbally value.
why no more touch screen on navigation that ugly mouse control sucks
Great review! look forward every day, plus you guys are funny, keep up the good work!
this is probably the first review that i agree with both sides. who wins both who loses both. The main thing to take away is that i see it with my own eyes the furture generation is all about self driving cars so they can stay on their cell phones or relax and talk to friends while going to their destination. was in a conversation with my nephew and hes all about using uber and lyft and plans on saving and buying a c8 corvette just to have a weekend toy. Thats just the new mindset.
I have both of these cars! GS350 F Sport & ES300h both 2015 models. Amazing vehicles.
great show as always but i would like to comment on the power lift gate
i own a 2013 gs 350 and it includes a power lift gate
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I'd like to know how the GS awd is holding up now in 2021 I want it in rwd but hard to find that so I might get the awd
I love the way u guys do your job. great job
Yessir it's the 450h. Same displacement of 3.5 liters as the GS 350, but it's even FAST and has even MORE horsepower (338 instead of 306 in the gas model). Not to mention it gets great gas mileage too, which is why it's IMO Lexus' best car because it gives great performance and great gas mileage, just showing you certainly can have both.
Good review guys!! I am back after months of missing!! But as always good review!
i have a 2012 camry hybrid i love it, japanese cars last forever my 2002 toyota highlander runs like new at 225,000km, they keep a good resale value, and theyre very reliable.
I disagree about you comment stating there's not difference in rear seat leg room. I'm 6'4" and can not fit in the back of a ES.
Thank you!
Interesting comparison. It does become quite lengthy, though. It felt like the entire video should have been about a third shorter. A lot of the time I was waiting for the narrative to move forward.
Thanks!
Love the New Intro! Keep it up guys! :D
Nice Rush t-shirt!! 2112 Baby!!!
Nope, did not contradict myself of misspeak at all. If you want rear heated seats you have to buy a GS because it is not available on the ES. Multi-zoned heating and cooling is a gimmick, it does not really work. The point is the ES satisfied 99% of most people's needs and they should offer rear heated seats. Charge $500 for it, people will pay it. The GS offers some amazing multi-contour seats, but I don't think that is worth $10K plus.
the gs350 awd is so much better i am going to buy it
Lucky
Did you get it? How do you like it? I'm currently looking g at a 13 gs awd with 39k on it?
is it me or both both cars look alike
Very excited to see what you two have to say about the new rav4. Also, maybe any chance for the new Mazda 6?
I really dont understant auto reviewers obsession with "fun to drive" and it only being definable with speed and handling. These cars arent sports cars. The real story is despite the price gap the cars are nearly identical inside.
EricMakesMovies well the gs IS the midsize sport sedan
sport in the loosest of terms
EricMakesMovies well it is a sedan, not a coupe so
Awesome review. Can't wait to see the new Rav4. From what I've read it's pretty damn good.
Great video. Interesting over all and very detailed. Have you guys done a 2012/13 Hyundai Genesis R spec sedan with the V8 5.0L. Thats what I drive everyday and I would love too see what you guys have to say about it. I has everything these cars have with more power and for less money. Keeping the brand image aside.
I'd actually rather have the GS
AWESOME REVIEW GUYS!
The comparison should be between the Camry hybrid and ES hybrid
Both good cars...for quite different purposes
That steering wheel at 3:07 looks incredibly warped when Nathan turns it.
ES is always the cheapest option while still driving a Lexus level vehicle, GS on the other hand is a step higher from performance and horsepower
Great video! Slowly loving the Lexus, I ordered an IS300h due January 2019.
Would it not have been better to compare the ES300h vs the GS300h or GS450h at a push?
Alex, Roman gets hundreds of questions each day. All he's trying to do is point to where query is addressed. We work our asses off to accommodate viewer's questions and comments. I disagree with you about his response, he's just trying to be pragmatic.
Nathan is wrong. A proper transmission is a manual transmission. Since you can't get on on either Lexus... nor the 535xi (which I rather have over the GS)... I would have to lean to the ES300h.... and take the leftover $13k and spend it on a used Subie for winter.
E63 and e55 vs gs350 - similar gasoline consumption but how can you compare 510 and 465 vs 306 hp?
Would be closer with ES350 and its detuned engine
In fact, I have watched the whole 18 minute video and nowhere in this sequence do you mention the letter IS. Now, I am not only talking about the new, but as the other gentleman said the OLD IS, since you have driven it in the past. The only thing we can see in this video that mentions the letter IS is a link to a video from the car show. Now if you could only give your personal opinion on how the old IS measures against these two good looking cars and how you might anticipate the new IS to be.
They say the ES is nearly as luxurious, but the GS's interior is actually far superior (aesthetically and functionally). GS also looks nicer on the inside, but as said before, there is more space in the ES.
Justin Mogannam ES and GS are two different cars the ES is a family sedan thr GS is a wealthy dad car different people's car.
Terrible editing. Why do you cut in scenes in the middle of the host talking and pause his speech.
Because you're not the producer it's bad editing? Maybe that was the whole point, lol focus on cars. This isn't editing tutorial, and no need to put anyone on blast for their work, there's a reason you're not working for them lol
Qwerty Ytrewq WTF are you talking about? Your points make no sense. That scene that cuts off in the middle of the host's speech doesn't work. It has nothing to do with me not being the producer, the video not being an editing tutorial, or me working for a small youtube video operation.
The market decides which is better.
Roman, why don't you load the engine like Nathan usually does when doing 0-60 tests?