I own a 2014 GS350. I was given a loaner 2022 ES350 for a couple days by Lexus while they took care of a fuel pump recall. The ES was nice but the GS driving dynamics were simply worlds better in any driving situation, from around town stop and go to higher speed sweepers to twisty two lanes. New or used, the GS is well worth the difference in price and you will probably get most of that difference back when you sell or trade it.
Just picked up a 2013 ES 350 with only 30k miles on it, one owner kept it cherry. GS would have been nice, but honestly the ES is nicer than most domestics in my opinion.
STS 1 you can put regular gas in both GS and ES. They both have same 3.5 V6. Heck, you can even put regular gas in an LS even tho they recommend premium. I have an LS460 4.6 V8 and I’ve been putting regular gas in it for the last 2 years lol
@@805NAVE I'm glad you're ok with regular in your GS. I have GX470 also and tried using regular once till engine started to ping like it was going to fell apart. Now, even though ES and GS have 3.5L engine, they are NOT exactly the same. GS has GDI I believe and ES has PFI, GS makes 302HP and ES 268HP. GS does require premium where ES does not, I'm talking about 2016 model years.
I had a GS300 and found out when gas went through the roof that on regular it runs just fine!🤷♂️ that's Toyota quality! other European luxury cars "Need" that premium. Technically the Lexus GS would "like" premium IMHO
2013, I thrash it which most drivers my age don't. It struggles for grip off the line but once moving is sure quick enough, that's what makes it a great cruiser. I am surprised at the good lock and how it sticks to the corners, just breaks away at the back if pushing too hard.
Own both models. There’s no doubt that the GS is the much nicer car. It’s a no brainer that the GS should be the choice if you’re in the used car market.
YES! Perfect 👌! This is the review video that I've been looking for! Straight up: ES350 vs. GS350. All the other titles were clickbait for something else similar.
I own a 1998 Lexus ES 300 with almost 200k miles. Just test drove a base model 2013 GS 350. It was pretty powerful! Sport mode definitely hugs the road Which is great when turning tight corners. Also test drove a 2014 IS 250 but it felt too cramped inside and I’m only 5’8. Next, I’ll test drive a 2013 - 14 ES 350 BUT i might have to go with the GS 350. UPDATE: I've had the 2013 Lexus GS 350 w/Luxury package for over a year now and love it!
Great video, I have a video of the IS hybrid vs the CT hybrid if you would like to see it Demise? (along with other LExus models) th-cam.com/video/78P8JueMKCw/w-d-xo.html
Demise Media You’re not wrong about that! They make a nice car and the GS considering being the same price in this scenario is just a great way to go! Let me know how you go.
The ES is a entry level vehicle. The GS cost more and is refined to go against the European sports cars. The ES is more or of a limo that’s why it is bigger. There is no comparison between the two. One is sporty the other is entry level luxury.
Hi mate! Firstly thank you so much for watching and commenting :D You are right the ES is technically entry level luxury but here in Australia I would say the Honda Legend/ Genisis (at the time as they're no longer in Aus)/ Holden Caprice and such would be considered entry level luxury at $60k where-as the Lexus ES was around $90k which still ofcourse was cheaper than E Class, 5 series, etc... I understand where you're coming from and at the same time if someone is buying a used car of these they will definitely be comparing the two :) Anyways have a good one mate and look forward to seeing you on the next one 😊
Brilliant comparison! I'm in the market for a Lexus sedan right now and was considering both the ES350 & GS350. I was already leaning towards the GS more, and after watching your video, i've fully made up my mind to go with the GS. Thank you so much!
@@SergCarReviews i still have my 2013 Avalon. Still deciding. Lol The car runs like a top. Ill probably keep it for awhile. Almost 100k miles. Ride is very stiff for my liking. I like luxury cars to ride like a Lincoln👍
paul tanner That’s awesome mate! Great to hear from you and look forward to seeing you at the next one! It is going to be the 2021 IS350 versus the 2020 GS350 I hope you enjoy that one 😄
I have 2 different ES gens but I love GS more even tho I don’t own one. I also have an LS460. Bug GS is still my fav, I would get older generation with the V8, GS460 or 430. Also THANK YOU for keeping up all the rear sunshades!!!!
The 430's were a beautiful car, just such a good cruiser and the sunshades are so good haha!! I actually haven't driven the LS460 before but driven the LS500 a few times, they're so good even did a video on it :)
This was a brilliantly well thought out video. I agree with your points. Up here/over here in Canada, the primary ‘other’ difference is the availability of AWD on the GS (only the latest ES’s have added it). So, the GS is perfect for our Canadian Winters (snow!). Thanks for the great video.
Hey :) Firstly thank you so much for watching!! Soo glad you enjoyed it :D And yes this was a fun one to film, both such good cars and surprisingly similar yet so different! Hope to see you in the next few videos I have coming up! We have the LS460, the LS500 vs S Class, the LC500, an Aston Martin DB9 and so much more lined up!! 😄
This is the only thing that keeps me from copping the GS.. I need FWD OR AWD due to the ice and snow I get in Midwest U. S... Although no where near Canadian winters. Hard to find the AWD GS here for sale.
I believe the ES350 and GS350 Sports Luxury both have 3-climate zones, 2 at the front and 1 for the rear passenger area. The controls are located on the read arm rest.
I have owned the 2015 GS AWD and really enjoy the car. In fact in 2021 my dealer wants to. Up it back at about 80% of what I paid fir it. But I’m sticking with it and appreciated your review.
Wow that's amazing Bill! Goes to show how strong the car market is now :D Thank you so much for watching and appreciate the kind words :) See you on the next one!
@@outsideboy23 I would absolutely recommend the GS as a first car. Confident handling, great ride, quiet, good features and tech (once you get used to the mouse thingy), and just a pleasure to drive. About the only downside is so-so mileage (it's a big car), and it requires premium.
I just bought a used 2016 GS350 F-Sport (white exterior, red interior) last month that replaced a 2017 IS200t F-Sport. Incredibly amazing car so far! My grandma drives a 2012 ES350 which is a very comfortable car, but I far prefer the GS cause it has far sportier handling & is still very comfortable & is a huge upgrade from my IS.
because the ES is the complete package for its price. if you've got the extra scratch, absolutely go for the GS but if you are just at the edge of being able to afford a luxury vehicle and you want Lexus, the ES won't disappoint. It's not sporty but it is no slouch and people love riding in these cars.
Tyler Pyle Yes you’re very right Tyler! It was so much car for the money brand new. Still so surprising how after 4 years they were worth the same price! Thank you so much for watching by the way :).
You really can't go wrong. I've had a GS and an ES; (both older model years): '99 gs300(2JZ) and a '03 es330. The GS was a little more sporty. But the newer ES's have come along nicely *even has a sport mode too. The only real difference is FWD or RWD. Unless you're getting the GS 350 F sport it's not really worth the extra$ IMHO, The ES is the most bang for your buck. The GS is a little more sporty but it's just not a sports car(except the gs300's *2JZ)😁. Either vehicle is going to perform well, and will last a very long time! GL
@@thatguybrooke I have the '20 GS350 F Sport RWD and my wife has the '16 CPO ES350. Driving it more, GS is actually pretty good for me, the ES definitely isolates the passenger from the road.
You’re right! I actually answered a persons question a few months ago on it. Es350 legroom Front - 41.9 in. Back - 40.0 in. GS350 legroom Front - 42.3 in. Back - 36.8 in
Hello Yashaska, thank you so much for watching :). It's so cool you have both! I've done a review comparing both and I agree with your takes on them. Look forward to seeing you on the new videos 😄!
i own both too ....the es being a front wheel car is more fuel efficient ...more leg room...and probably the better cas for you if you go on a longer trip....its smooth as silk....gs on the other hand is a beast the awd system is better ...it was my favorite car ...till my close friend bought a gsf 😥😥
Haha we always have that one friend 😄! And very true the ES is amazingly comfortable and so nice on a good stretch of road and any winding road the GS all day 👌
Me too...I have both these and they are awesome for their particular purposes... ES ultra luxury and GS mid option which is lighter than the top model and hence a tag bit quicker...of course to top these two I also have the legendary LS430 Euro tuned ultra luxury sedan black/beige combo...all these are my daily drives...
No way!! I actually drove the LS460 the other week and going to put that review up very soon! Haven’t driven the LS430 though, very curious to see how it drives though especially after driving all these other models!
We just bought a mint 2012 GS450H Sports Luxury with just over 50K Kms and it's a beauty. More power even than the GS350 thanks to the electric motors of the hybrid drive system and yet it gets better than 8L/100Kms around town and 6.2L/100Kms on the highway. Plus being the Sports Luxury it comes with all the bells and whistles. This replaced the 2003 LS430 that had given great service for the past 9+ years and was still going strong. Just wanted something a little newer and the GS is the perfect vehicle.
Thank you so much for watching mate! Congratulations mate on your new addition! They are such beautify cars and the 450h is very rare too so great find! Feel free to send me some photos on IG (same username)! Thank you again so much for watching 😄😄😄!!!!
Owner an LS 400 and two LS 430’s also rode in an ES before buying a 2013 GS 350 with 34k miles on it recently. It has the luxury package. The LS and to a lesser extent ES autos are fine , comfortable machines. They handle fairly well, and are loaded with comfort and comfortable limo driving. The GD has brought me back to my youth, fifty years ago. Also oodles of luxury yet this one feels and handles like a driving beast which has made driving fun again. Both are very dependable. Hope to hand this GS over to my grandchildren in about fifteen years when the vehicle will have about 60 K on it, hopefully still in mint condition. Both LS and G S are masters of the road and unbelievably dependable enjoyable transportation. Asp own an RX 350 with all wheel drive., a 2011 eleven with less than 40 K miles. Great for safe, dependable all weather driving. Never met a Lexus that ai did not fall in love with.
Thank you so much for sharing! Lexus's are great cars and It is very much like that, the more you drive, the more you fall in love with them! Thank you for watching mate and see you on the next one! 😊😊😊
I wonder if you are getting the same engines in Australia that are provided in North America: the 2013, '14, '15 Gen 6 ES 350 has a 2GR-FE rated at 268 HP. (Maybe they use a different measuring/calculation system in the different market places?) I've had a 2014 ES 350 since April of 2019 and love it. Prior to that I drove a 2003 Camry 4 cyl. and, living in Western Canada, did a lot of mountain driving in winter (ski trips). The fwd never let me down: the secret being to have good snow tires (not "all-weather" or "4-season"). So far I've had no problems with the ES although to be fair, I don't ski any more (age), and Covid has kept us close to home for the last 2 years. When I upgraded from the old Camry (it was at 280,000 km) I was really interested in the Avalon but could not find one in good condition. A bit of a "brain wave" hit and I started looking for an ES...so glad I did! They might look the same, might have slightly different options (I like the some of the ones in an Avalon), but the driving, quiet, road sense of the Lexus really sold me. The years of Lexus and especially the ES being at #1 for reliability did not hurt neither. My daughter is still driving that old Camry, doing a long of mountain skiing in the Rockies she's got it up to 320,000 km now and still no problems. Beat them with a stick and they laugh at you.
Haha mate! That is a lot of klms and amazing to hear! And absolutely! The people that say they're the same haven't yet driven them to figure out like you said the better refinements in overall driving sensations between the two brands! Thank you so much for watching Ed and hope to see you in the next videos! :)
Greetings from Singapore.....FWDs are great for everything - easier to work on - less parts - less drivetrain loss - more interior space for the same wheelbase . . . . Except handling. . . . Pick your compromise and live with it :)
Well, because the entire World is metric does not excuse. But either left or right just keep you window elbow to the white line and anywhere you drive in this beautiful planet you will be safe (except Tahiti - 114 klm of household garbage bins died that day). The Peugeot 404 was hired and I nearly went bankrupt on return.
Great review! I am the owner of many es and is. I want the GS. 97 ES300, 2003 ES300, 2009 IS 250, 2011 ES 350 and now 2004 ES 330. Oh yeah , my sons 1999 RX 300 and 2013 RX 350.
Great review. I was told the GS also came in AWD. Any idea if this was as good as the RWD? I live where there is snow and have been looking for a reliable, used, AWD
Hey mate! Thank you so much for watching 😄 And here in Aus they didn't bring those... not much snow in this side of the world so mate I couldn't really tell you. Thanks again mate and see you on the next one!
If you want a car that drives like a Lincoln/boat on the water, buy the ES. For better handling and HP get the GS. I've had both. Both great cars except for the difference in handling.
@@Sharpswordherald WAY more. As well as a flat floor as it's FWD and a GS is AWD or RWD and has a driveshaft creating that hump in the floor between rear passengers.
Hey mate! Thank you so much for watching! And I don't think you'll find a GS same year model cheaper then an ES (in the same generation) but the prices will be very close. I couldn't tell you why it didn't really make a lot of sense to me either... Are you looking to buy one? Thanks again for watching 😄😄😄
Bravo66 No way mate that’s awesome!! How do they both compare? Unfortunately we don’t have the AWD version in Australia... I’ve owned a few Passat V6 AWDs so I do appreciate a good all wheel drive!
Hello mate. I like the AWD better during snow. But the RWD not so good during winter season, I rather drive the Accord front wheel drive during winter then RWD model. I live up in Utah, US
I own a GS F-Sport and love it. To me, the ES looks fatter and more of an older person's car. The GS looks sporty and more slender. I also like the sharper angles of the GS. In LA you will always find an ES going 10 under the speed limit. Not me!
Mate! I just put up a video on the 2020 GS350 F-Sport and compared it to the IS350 F-Sport! They are such an awesome car :D! Thank you so much for watching and feel free to subscribe, we've got plenty more videos coming :D
I own and drive an ES350. I have driven an LC500. Until this video, I was unfamiliar with the GS350. Thanks to this video, when it is time for me to buy a new Lexus, I will consider the GS350.
To me nice review but improvement should be 1 various camera position to show different angles. Like exterior view while driving. 2 U didn't tell more on space like Head shoulder knee room in comparison. Other wise nice video. Make new video of current version with this perspective. We live to watch
Hey mate! Thank you so much for watching and your kind words! With my latest car reviews I got a second GoPro and had two angles and tried telling a bit more about the cars too! That's why they're 30+ min videos 😂 I don't do reviews anymore man but will keep it in mind for the new content 😄😄😄
That’s interesting you say that because I know here in Australia it’s very different to other countries. So both of these cars at the time were the ‘top of the range’ Sports Luxury and S+ came standard on them. Where are you from?
@@SergCarReviews USA, where the Luxury Package GS350 is a rarity because a majority of the models they focused on selling here are GS350 F-Sport's that cannot be had w/ the Lux Package unfortunately..
@@SergCarReviews Interesting indeed.. Was the GS F 5.0L V8 also available in the Australian market? That was another GS where the Luxury Pckg yet again was not available for US-spec models, but I've seen Canadian-spec & a Middle East-spec GSF's w/ the Lux Package.. 🙃
@@robecor_ it was but we saw barely any! And the few that did come were fully optioned with everything available on it. The market here in AUS is more into SUVs now and anyone buying a sports sedan owns a C63 (like you can’t even imagine how many there are on the road!)
Hi Sergei. It sounds to me like you have the base gs with the luxury package which is hard to come by here in NY. I think I would like that combination. I looking for a 2018/2019 GS and like the looks of the f sport, but i'm wondering if the 19 in wheels might bring in a little too much road noise.
Hey Jose, first thank you so much for watching and your feedback! Here in Australia I know it’s a bit different to other markets, we get a fraction of the models and options other countries do, however here in Aus it was a SL. I’ve driven the new ES (video coming soon) in the Luxury (17”) , F-Sport (19”) and SL (18”) and even though were taking about an inch (yes it does make a difference 😅) I’ve found the f sport too hard and the SL with 18” wheels the perfect drive for both handling and comfort. Hope this helps :) Hope to see you on the next video!
Hey Gene! Thank you so much for watching and congratulations on your purchase!! They are an awesome car and that is a great price! Where abouts do you live? Feel free to subscribe because I've got plenty more videos coming soon :).
I initially wanted a 2000s Accord as a budget university commuter, but saw an ‘07 ES350 for only a little bit more so decided to go with that. Glad someone else has made that comparison
Do a review on the 2020 GS versus the 2020 ES. Even though one is front wheel drive and the other is rear wheel drive, Lexus has really closed the gap between these cars! This is one reason the GS has been discontinued after this year!
Heyy! Thank you so much for watching!! I would love to do a review between the two but there are no GS‘s going around at the moment! And literally the gap is so much smaller since and I’m loving the ES now! Unfortunately here in AUS they’ve discontinued the ES350 range and it’s just the ES300H. I’ve posted a couple weeks ago the 2021 ES300h and the 2015 ES300h and literally as were talking posting a full review on the 2021 ES300h! Would love to hear your view and thoughts 😄
I bought a '14 GS RWD three years ago. (90k) Some fool had lowered it! The struts were shot and bumps were a nightmare. But, the turning was dangerously accurate, you could easily do things you shouldn't do in a car. (after new struts) Then three warning lights went on after a small bump in my driveway. The price of stock springs had dropped by half and I got them in. Went up 2", and bumps are now dreamy. Handling is good, but I won't push it anymore. Sadly, I get a strange "oink" starting in hot weather. I fear a motor mount is damaged. Moral: Don't you dare lower this car.
Mate you took me on a journey 😄😂😂!! And they are ridiculously smooth! And I can only imagine what lowered springs could do to it!! Would've been a lot of fun though! 😄😄 Thanks again for watching 😊
Hey mate! Firstly thanks so much for watching 😄! So I can only speak for here in Australia, there are a lot of taxes which need to be paid for cars over a certain value and thus these taxes are never received back. With regular depreciation the GS should be a little bit more in price but mate I just am not sure why and how it turns out the ES is the same haha. Now the GS is discontinued I think their value should retain a bit better because they are such an awesome car! Are you considering buying one??
The Es holds its value better because it’s a better (Long term car) it’s less maintenance and less issues and the most sold lexus on the market. It’s a better daily driver but it’s definitely not the better car. This generation the GS has gotten a little ugly which is why they finally decided to stop making them
@@WHERESSS 😂😂😂 one the suspension boom mic drop 🎤. All cars have somewhat issues including ALL lexus models no car is issue less. It’s virtually impossible bud 🙄
I've never driven the ES but I have a 2012 GS 450h. It's even more powerful than the GS 350 and the fuel economy is clearly better. However, when you put your foot down, the power power isn't instantaneous. It hesitates for a second or so, which I don't like. But nothing else about it irritates me in normal driving.
This is why I never buy used cars and if I did not from young people. Younger people beat the piss out of their cars and older people drive them gently and maintain them well and keep them garaged they don’t do a 0-60.
Firstly thanks so much for watching 😊! And on your point, I worked for dealerships for 9 years and have been on thousands of test drives. From my experience the older clientele would be more inclined to do tests like these. Anyways thanks for your comment and good luck with your next car 😄
@@bluwng I am 70 years old, I service and garage all vehicles. I have 2 vehicles an ES 350 2018 and a 4.9 liter, carbureted Quadrajet V8 vehicle that is 35 years old Group 3 race car now worth more than a home and signed by its builder + a KTM 1290 . Guess what, I lift a wheel on the KTM and I redline both vehicles any chance I get. It is called .... Rage Rage ... th-cam.com/video/w-sM-t1KI_Y/w-d-xo.html Do not go gently into that goodnight
A new smoother and more responsive 8 speed transmission was introduced in 2014. The 2014 also added rear cross traffic alert to the blind spot monitor option.
Yes! GS is what I'm leaning towards more n' more. I'm in the market for a Luxury sedan; narrowed down between ES350 and GS350 most likely. The Only thing else coming close could possibly be an Acura RLX. But every time I see these videos I keep leaning more towards the GS over my initial desire for the Cool yet practical ES350 😅🤷♂️ . YOLO right?
911, Porsche. I'm assuming? Well, that's a "sports car" and they're indeed "sportier" than the Lexus but in so many other categories it beats Porsche. Reliability wise Porsche can't touch Lexus. It's not a sports car but it also has four doors, seats 5 comfortably, luxury options out the wazoo, tons of trunk space etc. For an all-round, but far above average vehicle, Lexus ES and GS are the way to go.
I have driven the model GS before this one, have never driven the ES of any generation. My limited impression? I didn't really feel that the GS was SPORTY, at best, it was a luxury car that was trying to tell you " I am also sporty ". (Note that when I capitalized it was an attempt to emphasize that characteristic.) I am kind of odd about putting cars in "pigeon holes" so in my definition of sporty-luxury cars, both of these cars are hoping you will think they are sporty (if that will get you to buy them) but to me they have luxury way too well covered. That GS was almost an isolation tank.
Howard Kerr Hi Howard, I will be the first to agree that the generation prior to this GS was far from sporty even in the V8 (GS430). It was far more a luxury car than anything else. This generation tested was a lot more playful and ‘sportier’ almost attempting to be like a S-Line on an Audi or an M pack on the BMWs. I know it seems confusing and maybe needs to be driven to understood 😆. Also thank you so much for watching! If you haven’t subscribed, do watch the channel because I’m releasing a video every week for the next 5 weeks including the LS500 vs S Class and evening reviewing the LS460! Hope to see you in the other videos :)!
I have had my eye on a 2015 GS 300 FSport with 40,000 miles on it.... I am happy with the cost and thinking this is really nothing, as far as miles, for the car. Thoughts?
Jim Gann Hi Jim! Firstly thank you so much for watching 😄! Now to answer your question, if you like it then go for it! You’ll be pleasantly surprised every day you jump in it and drive it and even look forward to it! The mileage is really low for a Lexus and quite the average for the age. Make sure it has the service history as well and everything checks out. Good luck with it mate and please let me know how you go 😄 If you like send me some photos on Instagram @serg.ss! Will be great to see it :)
Kj Jones I own a GS350 F sport, which is a higher model and better car in comparison to the ES. Do your homework before you embarrass yourself next time.
Kj Jones you really are uneducated. First of all the GS is no doubt a higher model hence the price difference and specs, go to Lexus and ask any representative to help educate you. It was always the competitor of the E class, bmw 535i, Audi A6, and Cadillac CTS. ES is a better seller, but that’s about it because it resonated with older people and idiots like you!
Kj Jones go to Lexus.com and see the line up in order of small size vehicle to their flagship including price differences. Stop embarrassing yourself and let grown people talk who actually know about vehicles.
Hi John, thanks so much for the question! Now over here in Australia we don’t have the diesel so I couldn’t tell you engine wise however I can say how th cars feel. The IS is on the shorter wheel base so it’s much more rigid and you feel a lot more of the road than you do in the GS (longer frame). That makes the GS a much smoother ride and more comfortable. If price and budget allows the GS is definitely the way to go! Hope this helps :)
There sure as hell wasn't a $30,000 Yankee dollar difference between these two cars in the USA when they were new. More like $10-15k depending on how you optioned them. And yes today used they are similar price, a similar year/miles/condition ES350 is going to be 2-4k cheaper than a GS. Just did the comparo, figured all I do is drive on the interstate and bought the ES350. Styling wise they looked almost identical in my eye, both are pretty sharp, this gen ES really did away with the fuddy duddy old lady styling of past gens IMO.
Hey Aaron! Firstly thank you so much for watching, I really appreciate it :)! Congratulations on your new car well done mate! What year model was your one?? I’m sure you already love the car! It’s hard not to love 😄 Yeah the price difference here in Australia is ridiculous and it’s mostly just taxes which cause it to be such a massive difference, and that’s why they depreciate a lot harder. Haha thanks so much for watching and look forward to seeing you on the next one!! It’s the 2020 GS vs 2021 IS 😄 Catch up soon!
@@SergCarReviews I love the smooth plush ride the ES gives but im use to a more sportier drive being that my previous car was a Infiniti G35. A GS350 will be my next car no matter what though. & thanks for the great video !!!
I liked your review and I do believe the GS is a better car, but I think you were a little bit biased and could’ve tried to been a little more objective.
Lol I mean I could definitely see the biased opinion wit the GS but salute to you but just like you said if you have the money for the GS go with the GS if you just trying to get a good reliable car, that still looks good then go for the ES and if you’re just going for the GS for the looks you can literally upgrade And modify es to where it looks like the GS I also doubt that all the people in these comments have both cars
Haha appreciate you watching and commenting! It’s true the bias is obvious but man a NA V6 RWD is just 😄... Thanks again mate! Feel free to check out all my other Lexus reviews 😊😊
@@SergCarReviews Yes, currently got a 2016 Aurion, same motor as the ES350 can totally relate to how it drives like in this video, this time want a RWD car and the GS350 ticks all the boxes.
@@zraudiovlogs7044 Definitely worth it mate :D You'll love it! Let me know how you go :D If you like send me any questions on instagram - @serg.ss Talk soon mate!
How can an ES drive better than a Camry when both them are FRONT WHEEL DRIVE? The only definite differences I can find are interior details and Mark Levingston audio in the Lexus. Also the Avalon started off from a Camry anyway. I might as well just buy a Camry V6 leather or even a hybrid Camry. Otherwise a GS which have a completely different rear wheel drive platform, not a "tinkered" Camry platform found on both Avalon and the ES.
@@SergCarReviews So Jag 2 liter Diesel or 2 variants of a 2liter Turbo petrol where not Jaguars best attempts... Well they are trying.....again and again and again. Toyota just keep doing 500K miles with regular servicing.
It is clear Lexus is starting to go "cheap' The 2019 is 2.5 4 cylinder + battery with that eCVT that just annoys along with the cheap out on interiors . If you find a 3.5 L V6 ES ultra Luxury sports from 2017 - 2018 .. Grab it. The fuel economy is amazing as is the comfort and the Lexus 2.5 safety system. Full panoramic roof, Mark Levinson sound system. front heated and cooled seats with memory and it has a full size spare with an alloy wheel. The GS probably was the Ultimate if you can find the V8 . We appear to be going into a Boring future.. and I hate it.
Hi David! That's a fair point you bring up! What I will say is my opinion was based on driving both cars with an open mind and was only developed after driving both cars. Something to remember when I do my reviews is that I've usually had the car for a couple of days if not weeks at a time so by the time I make my videos I have finally formed an opinion. I am not like others who prefers a badge/brand etc and hopefully you can tell from the videos. Also once an opinion is formed I feel like there will always be a bias towards it :D Anyways hope that makes sense and hope to see you on the newer videos :D Serg
Yes and no. Its actually bigger, longer wheelbase, bigger trunk, bigger back seat. Hell of a lot more refinement in terms of ride/interior appointments/noise isolation/features if you compare 2014 Camry vs a 2014 ES.
Hi Tim, firstly thank you so much for watching 😄 hope you enjoyed it! So the engine itself is the same as the Camry V6 but as Aaron mentioned the car it self is very different and if you are comparing them would be worth to drive both. Some people can’t justify the difference but then a lot of others can. Let me know how you go :)
Hey Chris! Thank you so much for watching :D So with the engines, the engine blocks themselves are the same however the GS has direct and port injection. ES350 - 2GR-FE GS350 - 2GR-FSE Anyways hope this helps :) See you on the next one!
Hahah I try to be different! Although some of my new videos comparing new and old versions like the 2020 IS vs 2021 IS will go into those details :) Look forward to seeing you on the next video 😄!!
What county are you in? I know Lexus make different spec models for different countries so it just depends what country you’re in. I know I’m the US and Canada they had more features. Here in Australia that was the top of the range that you could get :) Thank you so much for watching :)
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I own a 2014 GS350. I was given a loaner 2022 ES350 for a couple days by Lexus while they took care of a fuel pump recall. The ES was nice but the GS driving dynamics were simply worlds better in any driving situation, from around town stop and go to higher speed sweepers to twisty two lanes. New or used, the GS is well worth the difference in price and you will probably get most of that difference back when you sell or trade it.
Very well put! Thanks so much for watching 😄😄
That's funny I'm in the same situation, my 14 gs350 fsport is way better than the 2023 es350
Just picked up a 2013 ES 350 with only 30k miles on it, one owner kept it cherry. GS would have been nice, but honestly the ES is nicer than most domestics in my opinion.
No way!! Mate!! Congratulations!!! That's awesome!! Send me some pics on instagram - @sergcarreviews 😀
wow really low miles how much did u pay for it? im looking for an es350 around that yr as well
Simplicity of ES, less mechanical crap, regular gas vs premium for GS - something to consider. GS is better looking for sure though.
STS 1 you can put regular gas in both GS and ES. They both have same 3.5 V6. Heck, you can even put regular gas in an LS even tho they recommend premium. I have an LS460 4.6 V8 and I’ve been putting regular gas in it for the last 2 years lol
@@805NAVE I'm glad you're ok with regular in your GS. I have GX470 also and tried using regular once till engine started to ping like it was going to fell apart.
Now, even though ES and GS have 3.5L engine, they are NOT exactly the same. GS has GDI I believe and ES has PFI, GS makes 302HP and ES 268HP. GS does require premium where ES does not, I'm talking about 2016 model years.
Not sure mechanicalluy but can agree the ES is nice and simple and the GS is so good looking :D
I had a GS300 and found out when gas went through the roof that on regular it runs just fine!🤷♂️ that's Toyota quality! other European luxury cars "Need" that premium. Technically the Lexus GS would "like" premium IMHO
I am 25 with an old soul. Got the es350...I’m good cruising DONT worry about me
Oh and it was only about 18K in 2020 :)
They're such a good car :)
@@MidtownMeezus what year is yours?
Me tooo I bought a 2016 ES 350 in caviar panoramic sunroof. I love my car 💖 I’m 28 🤷🏾♀️
Alexis Congratulations Alexis 😄😄
I own a GS350, great cruiser which is why I got it. Quiet, smooth, flick into sport mode when passing and plenty of power, great sounding burble.
Murray Brown it’s just such a beautiful car! What year model is yours?
2013, I thrash it which most drivers my age don't. It struggles for grip off the line but once moving is sure quick enough, that's what makes it a great cruiser. I am surprised at the good lock and how it sticks to the corners, just breaks away at the back if pushing too hard.
Murray Brown Haha that’s what they’re built for and what they can withstand! Love it
@@murraybrown1711 Gotta ❤️ that '13 6-speed..
Is it reliable I have seen a 350h 2015 that has 130kmiles is it a good buy? Will it be reliable?
Own both models. There’s no doubt that the GS is the much nicer car. It’s a no brainer that the GS should be the choice if you’re in the used car market.
jerry ho The GS is such a nice car 👌
ES is fantastic car, but GS is cooler for sure
DIAMLER the ES is so boring to me, is and gs look much better
But they are the same and they look the same. The GS isn’t nicer than the ES, just a more expensive ES.
@@robertoling7708 Maybe the gap has become a lot smaller with the 2021 models but back then driving both, the difference was huge!!
YES! Perfect 👌! This is the review video that I've been looking for! Straight up: ES350 vs. GS350. All the other titles were clickbait for something else similar.
Haha I’m glad you enjoyed the video mate 😄 See you on the next one!!
Hey mate! I’ve just uploaded a video on the 2015 ES300h and 2021 ES300h if you’re curious 😄 Hope you’re doing well!
I own a 1998 Lexus ES 300 with almost 200k miles. Just test drove a base model 2013 GS 350. It was pretty powerful! Sport mode definitely hugs the road Which is great when turning tight corners. Also test drove a 2014 IS 250 but it felt too cramped inside and I’m only 5’8. Next, I’ll test drive a 2013 - 14 ES 350 BUT i might have to go with the GS 350. UPDATE: I've had the 2013 Lexus GS 350 w/Luxury package for over a year now and love it!
Great video, I have a video of the IS hybrid vs the CT hybrid if you would like to see it Demise?
(along with other LExus models)
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Demise Media You’re not wrong about that! They make a nice car and the GS considering being the same price in this scenario is just a great way to go! Let me know how you go.
CarsofGlasgow the hybrids Lexus make are so good too!
@@CarsofGlasgow Nice, thanks. I'll check your video out as well.
@@demisemedia Thanks man
I was looking for this exact comparison, found this and gave this an instant thumbs up for having Australian models!
Thanks so much for watching mate 😄
The ES is a entry level vehicle. The GS cost more and is refined to go against the European sports cars. The ES is more or of a limo that’s why it is bigger. There is no comparison between the two. One is sporty the other is entry level luxury.
Hi mate! Firstly thank you so much for watching and commenting :D You are right the ES is technically entry level luxury but here in Australia I would say the Honda Legend/ Genisis (at the time as they're no longer in Aus)/ Holden Caprice and such would be considered entry level luxury at $60k where-as the Lexus ES was around $90k which still ofcourse was cheaper than E Class, 5 series, etc... I understand where you're coming from and at the same time if someone is buying a used car of these they will definitely be comparing the two :) Anyways have a good one mate and look forward to seeing you on the next one 😊
Brilliant comparison! I'm in the market for a Lexus sedan right now and was considering both the ES350 & GS350. I was already leaning towards the GS more, and after watching your video, i've fully made up my mind to go with the GS. Thank you so much!
Thank you so much for your kind words Aamir!! Have you bought it yet??
The smile on your face said it all. I appreciate your passion! I thought i wanted an ES. You may have changed my mind. Lol. Great review sir👍
Haha it’s such a great car 😃! Thanks so much for watching Paul really appreciate it :) Hope you enjoyed my other reviews too!!
paul tanner Hey Paul, how did you go??
@@SergCarReviews i still have my 2013 Avalon. Still deciding. Lol
The car runs like a top. Ill probably keep it for awhile. Almost 100k miles. Ride is very stiff for my liking. I like luxury cars to ride like a Lincoln👍
paul tanner That’s awesome mate! Great to hear from you and look forward to seeing you at the next one! It is going to be the 2021 IS350 versus the 2020 GS350 I hope you enjoy that one 😄
@@8corymix8 the avalon is a good car too, dont test drive a GS, your mind will be made up
I have 2 different ES gens but I love GS more even tho I don’t own one. I also have an LS460. Bug GS is still my fav, I would get older generation with the V8, GS460 or 430. Also THANK YOU for keeping up all the rear sunshades!!!!
The 430's were a beautiful car, just such a good cruiser and the sunshades are so good haha!! I actually haven't driven the LS460 before but driven the LS500 a few times, they're so good even did a video on it :)
This was a brilliantly well thought out video. I agree with your points. Up here/over here in Canada, the primary ‘other’ difference is the availability of AWD on the GS (only the latest ES’s have added it). So, the GS is perfect for our Canadian Winters (snow!). Thanks for the great video.
Hey :) Firstly thank you so much for watching!! Soo glad you enjoyed it :D And yes this was a fun one to film, both such good cars and surprisingly similar yet so different! Hope to see you in the next few videos I have coming up! We have the LS460, the LS500 vs S Class, the LC500, an Aston Martin DB9 and so much more lined up!! 😄
Thanks and the very best of luck.
This is the only thing that keeps me from copping the GS.. I need FWD OR AWD due to the ice and snow I get in Midwest U. S... Although no where near Canadian winters. Hard to find the AWD GS here for sale.
I agree. AWD is a must. (btw. I realize that this is one year later)
I believe the ES350 and GS350 Sports Luxury both have 3-climate zones, 2 at the front and 1 for the rear passenger area. The controls are located on the read arm rest.
You're right! I even show it on camera at 2:48 but out of habit I said dual zone 😄! Thank you so much for watching mate :D
I have owned the 2015 GS AWD and really enjoy the car. In fact in 2021 my dealer wants to. Up it back at about 80% of what I paid fir it. But I’m sticking with it and appreciated your review.
Wow that's amazing Bill! Goes to show how strong the car market is now :D Thank you so much for watching and appreciate the kind words :) See you on the next one!
Would u recommend for a first car?
@@outsideboy23 I would absolutely recommend the GS as a first car. Confident handling, great ride, quiet, good features and tech (once you get used to the mouse thingy), and just a pleasure to drive. About the only downside is so-so mileage (it's a big car), and it requires premium.
sometimes me and my wife make love to your videos in the background....Keeep up the good work mate.....
Your wife should be concerned about who's actually exciting you!
12:14 shoulders twitching with joy. This is a great video man, very fun to watch
Glad you enjoyed it 😄 Plenty more coming!!
I just bought a used 2016 GS350 F-Sport (white exterior, red interior) last month that replaced a 2017 IS200t F-Sport. Incredibly amazing car so far! My grandma drives a 2012 ES350 which is a very comfortable car, but I far prefer the GS cause it has far sportier handling & is still very comfortable & is a huge upgrade from my IS.
Congratulations mate, white with red is a favourite of mine it looks soo good 👌👌 and so true it’s such a big difference between them!! Enjoy 😄
Lexus did this on purpose! The Gs was built specifically with a younger buyer in mind as the Es is catered to older buyers and women
Have a 2013 ES350 and installed some mods, gapped an aggressive 540i and other sport coups. Love this car.
Haha no way!! What work did you get done to it? Feel free to send me some photos on IG (same username). Thanks for watching 😄😄!!
GS wins but people buy the cheaper ES though.
Yeh so true... especially here in Australia the gap was huge!
because the ES is the complete package for its price. if you've got the extra scratch, absolutely go for the GS but if you are just at the edge of being able to afford a luxury vehicle and you want Lexus, the ES won't disappoint. It's not sporty but it is no slouch and people love riding in these cars.
Tyler Pyle Yes you’re very right Tyler! It was so much car for the money brand new. Still so surprising how after 4 years they were worth the same price! Thank you so much for watching by the way :).
You really can't go wrong. I've had a GS and an ES; (both older model years): '99 gs300(2JZ) and a '03 es330. The GS was a little more sporty. But the newer ES's have come along nicely *even has a sport mode too. The only real difference is FWD or RWD. Unless you're getting the GS 350 F sport it's not really worth the extra$ IMHO, The ES is the most bang for your buck. The GS is a little more sporty but it's just not a sports car(except the gs300's *2JZ)😁. Either vehicle is going to perform well, and will last a very long time! GL
@@thatguybrooke I have the '20 GS350 F Sport RWD and my wife has the '16 CPO ES350. Driving it more, GS is actually pretty good for me, the ES definitely isolates the passenger from the road.
Still… an amazing comparison and review video. Cheers.
Thanks so much mate!
Just bought a 2016 GS 350 F Sport today!
Mate!!! Congratulations!!! 👌👌 What colour combo did you get? Feel free to send me some pics on Instagram 😄😄
One thing this video failed to mention was the bigger back seat and trunk in the ES.
You’re right! I actually answered a persons question a few months ago on it.
Es350 legroom
Front - 41.9 in.
Back - 40.0 in.
GS350 legroom
Front - 42.3 in.
Back - 36.8 in
I have both GS & IS.
GS is touring car. Good for long distance journeys.
IS is a driver's car. Good for daily driving....
Hello Yashaska, thank you so much for watching :). It's so cool you have both! I've done a review comparing both and I agree with your takes on them. Look forward to seeing you on the new videos 😄!
i own both too ....the es being a front wheel car is more fuel efficient ...more leg room...and probably the better cas for you if you go on a longer trip....its smooth as silk....gs on the other hand is a beast the awd system is better ...it was my favorite car ...till my close friend bought a gsf 😥😥
Haha we always have that one friend 😄! And very true the ES is amazingly comfortable and so nice on a good stretch of road and any winding road the GS all day 👌
Me too...I have both these and they are awesome for their particular purposes... ES ultra luxury and GS mid option which is lighter than the top model and hence a tag bit quicker...of course to top these two I also have the legendary LS430 Euro tuned ultra luxury sedan black/beige combo...all these are my daily drives...
No way!! I actually drove the LS460 the other week and going to put that review up very soon! Haven’t driven the LS430 though, very curious to see how it drives though especially after driving all these other models!
That’s very true! Which ES are you getting?
We just bought a mint 2012 GS450H Sports Luxury with just over 50K Kms and it's a beauty. More power even than the GS350 thanks to the electric motors of the hybrid drive system and yet it gets better than 8L/100Kms around town and 6.2L/100Kms on the highway. Plus being the Sports Luxury it comes with all the bells and whistles. This replaced the 2003 LS430 that had given great service for the past 9+ years and was still going strong. Just wanted something a little newer and the GS is the perfect vehicle.
Thank you so much for watching mate! Congratulations mate on your new addition! They are such beautify cars and the 450h is very rare too so great find! Feel free to send me some photos on IG (same username)! Thank you again so much for watching 😄😄😄!!!!
Owner an LS 400 and two LS 430’s also rode in an ES before buying a 2013 GS 350 with 34k miles on it recently. It has the luxury package. The LS and to a lesser extent ES autos are fine , comfortable machines. They handle fairly well, and are loaded with comfort and comfortable limo driving. The GD has brought me back to my youth, fifty years ago. Also oodles of luxury yet this one feels and handles like a driving beast which has made driving fun again. Both are very dependable. Hope to hand this GS over to my grandchildren in about fifteen years when the vehicle will have about 60 K on it, hopefully still in mint condition. Both LS and G S are masters of the road and unbelievably dependable enjoyable transportation. Asp own an RX 350 with all wheel drive., a 2011 eleven with less than 40 K miles. Great for safe, dependable all weather driving. Never met a Lexus that ai did not fall in love with.
Thank you so much for sharing! Lexus's are great cars and It is very much like that, the more you drive, the more you fall in love with them! Thank you for watching mate and see you on the next one! 😊😊😊
Brilliat review! Keep up the good work mate!👍
Hey Kai!! Mate thank you so much for watching and your comment!! 😃 Really appreciate it :)
Sure mate😃
I wonder if you are getting the same engines in Australia that are provided in North America: the 2013, '14, '15 Gen 6 ES 350 has a 2GR-FE rated at 268 HP. (Maybe they use a different measuring/calculation system in the different market places?) I've had a 2014 ES 350 since April of 2019 and love it. Prior to that I drove a 2003 Camry 4 cyl. and, living in Western Canada, did a lot of mountain driving in winter (ski trips). The fwd never let me down: the secret being to have good snow tires (not "all-weather" or "4-season"). So far I've had no problems with the ES although to be fair, I don't ski any more (age), and Covid has kept us close to home for the last 2 years. When I upgraded from the old Camry (it was at 280,000 km) I was really interested in the Avalon but could not find one in good condition. A bit of a "brain wave" hit and I started looking for an ES...so glad I did! They might look the same, might have slightly different options (I like the some of the ones in an Avalon), but the driving, quiet, road sense of the Lexus really sold me. The years of Lexus and especially the ES being at #1 for reliability did not hurt neither. My daughter is still driving that old Camry, doing a long of mountain skiing in the Rockies she's got it up to 320,000 km now and still no problems. Beat them with a stick and they laugh at you.
Haha mate! That is a lot of klms and amazing to hear! And absolutely! The people that say they're the same haven't yet driven them to figure out like you said the better refinements in overall driving sensations between the two brands! Thank you so much for watching Ed and hope to see you in the next videos! :)
Greetings from Singapore.....FWDs are great for everything - easier to work on - less parts - less drivetrain loss - more interior space for the same wheelbase . . . .
Except handling. . . .
Pick your compromise and live with it :)
How can you guys drive with the steering wheel on the right? Feels out of place.
It's sort of like when you use your other hand for the first time but after a while you just get used to it
@@SergCarReviews oh I see
Well, because the entire World is metric does not excuse. But either left or right just keep you window elbow to the white line and anywhere you drive in this beautiful planet you will be safe (except Tahiti - 114 klm of household garbage bins died that day). The Peugeot 404 was hired and I nearly went bankrupt on return.
Gs 350 the way to go. Thanks.
Laolu Adegbesan my pleasure mate! New GS350 video coming very very soon 😄!!
Cool review! I learned a few things👌😁 thanks for the review, I subscribed😁
Gerhard! Thank you so much for checking out my channel and thank you so much for subscribing!! That means a lot :D See you on the next one :)
@@SergCarReviews send you channel link to my brother also...he is a huge Lexus fan
@@gerhardstrydom5249 Legend! Feel free to send me a message on instagram if you have it :)
Great review! I am the owner of many es and is. I want the GS.
97 ES300, 2003 ES300, 2009 IS 250, 2011 ES 350 and now 2004 ES 330.
Oh yeah , my sons 1999 RX 300 and 2013 RX 350.
Wow that's quite the collection! All amazing cars!! And if you have an opportunity definitely go for a drive in one! You won't be disappointed 😄
Great review. I was told the GS also came in AWD. Any idea if this was as good as the RWD? I live where there is snow and have been looking for a reliable, used, AWD
very good cars I own one
Hey mate! Thank you so much for watching 😄 And here in Aus they didn't bring those... not much snow in this side of the world so mate I couldn't really tell you. Thanks again mate and see you on the next one!
If you want a car that drives like a Lincoln/boat on the water, buy the ES. For better handling and HP get the GS. I've had both. Both great cars except for the difference in handling.
Haha couldn't have put it better myself! Thanks so much for watching Michael 😄
Which one gets better gas mileage, do you find them to greatly contrast each other
No comparison.
GS even at a slightly higher price.
Bad on Lexus for dropping the GS.
I’m a big fan of the GS and really wish it was still around!
It’s more than slightly higher
Quick question. Which of both models have the most passanger space for rear and front? Like the leg room and all that good stuff.
Es350 legroom
Front - 41.9 in.
Back - 40.0 in.
GS350 legroom
Front - 42.3 in.
Back - 36.8 in.
Hope this helps 👌 Thanks for watching 😄
ES has way more back space for passengers
@@Sharpswordherald WAY more. As well as a flat floor as it's FWD and a GS is AWD or RWD and has a driveshaft creating that hump in the floor between rear passengers.
@@KylePetersonDmaster223 yeah bro, I can’t stand that big hump in the back of the GS and LS
You've mentioned that ES holds its value better in the long term compared to the GS. How is that so? you never elaborated on the reasson why. Thanks
Hey mate! Thank you so much for watching! And I don't think you'll find a GS same year model cheaper then an ES (in the same generation) but the prices will be very close. I couldn't tell you why it didn't really make a lot of sense to me either... Are you looking to buy one? Thanks again for watching 😄😄😄
I own two of GS 350 AWD and RWD.. I love both and alway garage.
Bravo66 No way mate that’s awesome!! How do they both compare? Unfortunately we don’t have the AWD version in Australia... I’ve owned a few Passat V6 AWDs so I do appreciate a good all wheel drive!
Hello mate. I like the AWD better during snow. But the RWD not so good during winter season, I rather drive the Accord front wheel drive during winter then RWD model. I live up in Utah, US
Yeah that makes sense... And beautiful part of the world and from what I know home of Stradman! Hopefully one day I’ll visit 😄!
I never understand why anyone would own two vehicles that are so similar
I own a GS F-Sport and love it. To me, the ES looks fatter and more of an older person's car. The GS looks sporty and more slender. I also like the sharper angles of the GS. In LA you will always find an ES going 10 under the speed limit. Not me!
Mate! I just put up a video on the 2020 GS350 F-Sport and compared it to the IS350 F-Sport! They are such an awesome car :D! Thank you so much for watching and feel free to subscribe, we've got plenty more videos coming :D
Agreed
I really enjoyed this video brother, good breakdown of the cars and features. I'll go with the GS350,
Thank you so much for watching Arturo :)
My pleasure bro
I own and drive an ES350. I have driven an LC500. Until this video, I was unfamiliar with the GS350.
Thanks to this video, when it is time for me to buy a new Lexus, I will consider the GS350.
To me nice review but improvement should be
1 various camera position to show different angles. Like exterior view while driving.
2 U didn't tell more on space like Head shoulder knee room in comparison.
Other wise nice video. Make new video of current version with this perspective.
We live to watch
Hey mate! Thank you so much for watching and your kind words! With my latest car reviews I got a second GoPro and had two angles and tried telling a bit more about the cars too! That's why they're 30+ min videos 😂 I don't do reviews anymore man but will keep it in mind for the new content 😄😄😄
I see that you've got the Luxury Package which comes w/ S+ Mode, usually only found in F-Sport models..
That’s interesting you say that because I know here in Australia it’s very different to other countries. So both of these cars at the time were the ‘top of the range’ Sports Luxury and S+ came standard on them. Where are you from?
@@SergCarReviews USA, where the Luxury Package GS350 is a rarity because a majority of the models they focused on selling here are GS350 F-Sport's that cannot be had w/ the Lux Package unfortunately..
Here in Australia it’s the total opposite, people either get the Luxury or Sports Luxury and the F Sport was the forgotten one 😂
@@SergCarReviews Interesting indeed.. Was the GS F 5.0L V8 also available in the Australian market? That was another GS where the Luxury Pckg yet again was not available for US-spec models, but I've seen Canadian-spec & a Middle East-spec GSF's w/ the Lux Package.. 🙃
@@robecor_ it was but we saw barely any! And the few that did come were fully optioned with everything available on it. The market here in AUS is more into SUVs now and anyone buying a sports sedan owns a C63 (like you can’t even imagine how many there are on the road!)
Hi Sergei. It sounds to me like you have the base gs with the luxury package which is hard to come by here in NY. I think I would like that combination. I looking for a 2018/2019 GS and like the looks of the f sport, but i'm wondering if the 19 in wheels might bring in a little too much road noise.
Hey Jose, first thank you so much for watching and your feedback! Here in Australia I know it’s a bit different to other markets, we get a fraction of the models and options other countries do, however here in Aus it was a SL. I’ve driven the new ES (video coming soon) in the Luxury (17”) , F-Sport (19”) and SL (18”) and even though were taking about an inch (yes it does make a difference 😅) I’ve found the f sport too hard and the SL with 18” wheels the perfect drive for both handling and comfort. Hope this helps :) Hope to see you on the next video!
You could just get different tires specifically for comfort
Great video. I drive a 2013 GS350 w/140K miles & love it
Thank you so much! And that's amazing! Goes to show how sturdy they are!!
Bought a 2017 ES for $24K, love it. Handles as well as my older Honda V6 Accords. Smoother ride though.
Hey Gene! Thank you so much for watching and congratulations on your purchase!! They are an awesome car and that is a great price! Where abouts do you live? Feel free to subscribe because I've got plenty more videos coming soon :).
@@SergCarReviews I live a little west of Philly, PA. I'd recommend this car to anyone that has an SUV. It's a great commuter.
@@gben2457 Exactly! It’s such great value when they’re more than a few years old! Hope you’re well mate 😄
Hondas are nothing like Lexus. Stop posting comments under the influence.
I initially wanted a 2000s Accord as a budget university commuter, but saw an ‘07 ES350 for only a little bit more so decided to go with that. Glad someone else has made that comparison
Do a review on the 2020 GS versus the 2020 ES. Even though one is front wheel drive and the other is rear wheel drive, Lexus has really closed the gap between these cars! This is one reason the GS has been discontinued after this year!
Heyy! Thank you so much for watching!! I would love to do a review between the two but there are no GS‘s going around at the moment! And literally the gap is so much smaller since and I’m loving the ES now! Unfortunately here in AUS they’ve discontinued the ES350 range and it’s just the ES300H. I’ve posted a couple weeks ago the 2021 ES300h and the 2015 ES300h and literally as were talking posting a full review on the 2021 ES300h! Would love to hear your view and thoughts 😄
Hey mate! I've just uploaded the 2020 GS350 vs 2021 IS350! Feel free to check it out :)
I bought a '14 GS RWD three years ago. (90k) Some fool had lowered it! The struts were shot and bumps were a nightmare. But, the turning was dangerously accurate, you could easily do things you shouldn't do in a car. (after new struts) Then three warning lights went on after a small bump in my driveway. The price of stock springs had dropped by half and I got them in. Went up 2", and bumps are now dreamy. Handling is good, but I won't push it anymore. Sadly, I get a strange "oink" starting in hot weather. I fear a motor mount is damaged. Moral: Don't you dare lower this car.
Mate you took me on a journey 😄😂😂!! And they are ridiculously smooth! And I can only imagine what lowered springs could do to it!! Would've been a lot of fun though! 😄😄 Thanks again for watching 😊
Do you have a video of ES350 2015 and Avalon 2015?
Hi Obidiegwu, We actually don't get the Avalon here in Australia so I can't film it! Thank you so much for subscribing and see you on the next video 😄
GS is like an LS on budget 😂
What about the awd version of the GS? Is it better than the rwd?
We don't get the AWD here in Aus so I couldn't tell you. I assume it would be good for snow and weather! Thank you so much for watching.
@@SergCarReviews I ended up getting the AWD version and the handling is great and I feel confident driving in the rain and when it snows.
Awesome mate! Congratulations on your car!! 😄😄
That GS350 0-60 looks sub 4 seconds 0-60 how did you manage to do that?
It’s 0-60 klms not miles 😄 Thank you so much for watching Ayush
Thank you for the Review! Why does the ES hold its value better?
Hey mate! Firstly thanks so much for watching 😄!
So I can only speak for here in Australia, there are a lot of taxes which need to be paid for cars over a certain value and thus these taxes are never received back. With regular depreciation the GS should be a little bit more in price but mate I just am not sure why and how it turns out the ES is the same haha. Now the GS is discontinued I think their value should retain a bit better because they are such an awesome car!
Are you considering buying one??
The Es holds its value better because it’s a better (Long term car) it’s less maintenance and less issues and the most sold lexus on the market. It’s a better daily driver but it’s definitely not the better car. This generation the GS has gotten a little ugly which is why they finally decided to stop making them
@@zendariuskincaid5205 name 1 issue in the GS
@@WHERESSS 😂😂😂 one the suspension boom mic drop 🎤. All cars have somewhat issues including ALL lexus models no car is issue less. It’s virtually impossible bud 🙄
@@zendariuskincaid5205 OK, so if its a problem in EVERY Lexus model, that pretty much nullifies your argument that the GS is more maintenance.
I go for GS 🤩
It’s such an awesome car 👌😄
I've never driven the ES but I have a 2012 GS 450h. It's even more powerful than the GS 350 and the fuel economy is clearly better. However, when you put your foot down, the power power isn't instantaneous. It hesitates for a second or so, which I don't like. But nothing else about it irritates me in normal driving.
This is why I never buy used cars and if I did not from young people. Younger people beat the piss out of their cars and older people drive them gently and maintain them well and keep them garaged they don’t do a 0-60.
Firstly thanks so much for watching 😊! And on your point, I worked for dealerships for 9 years and have been on thousands of test drives. From my experience the older clientele would be more inclined to do tests like these. Anyways thanks for your comment and good luck with your next car 😄
@SergCarReviews I doubt it plus you speculate.
@@bluwng I am 70 years old, I service and garage all vehicles. I have 2 vehicles an ES 350 2018 and a 4.9 liter, carbureted Quadrajet V8 vehicle that is 35 years old Group 3 race car now worth more than a home and signed by its builder + a KTM 1290 . Guess what, I lift a wheel on the KTM and I redline both vehicles any chance I get. It is called .... Rage Rage ... th-cam.com/video/w-sM-t1KI_Y/w-d-xo.html Do not go gently into that goodnight
can the es 350 2015 be tuned into a GS model?
I would like to know, if theres a big difference with a 2012 and a 2015 gs
Hey Kai, with the 2012 it is the same. The 2011 is a total different design though.
A new smoother and more responsive 8 speed transmission was introduced in 2014. The 2014 also added rear cross traffic alert to the blind spot monitor option.
GS is for real drivers.
& the LC :)
T8PolestarCyan Nothing beats a RWD fast saloon
Yes! GS is what I'm leaning towards more n' more. I'm in the market for a Luxury sedan; narrowed down between ES350 and GS350 most likely. The Only thing else coming close could possibly be an Acura RLX. But every time I see these videos I keep leaning more towards the GS over my initial desire for the Cool yet practical ES350 😅🤷♂️ . YOLO right?
911, Porsche. I'm assuming? Well, that's a "sports car" and they're indeed "sportier" than the Lexus but in so many other categories it beats Porsche. Reliability wise Porsche can't touch Lexus. It's not a sports car but it also has four doors, seats 5 comfortably, luxury options out the wazoo, tons of trunk space etc. For an all-round, but far above average vehicle, Lexus ES and GS are the way to go.
@@thatguybrooke Hey mate, just saw your replies! How did you go, what did you end up buying??
not a family man but ill get one to carry more language for long road trips, and probably after a couple of years turn in into a drift missile.
Haha I'm gonna guess the GS then? cos rwd things... 😂
@@SergCarReviews lol true
I have driven the model GS before this one, have never driven the ES of any generation. My limited impression? I didn't really feel that the GS was SPORTY, at best, it was a luxury car that was trying to tell you " I am also sporty ". (Note that when I capitalized it was an attempt to emphasize that characteristic.)
I am kind of odd about putting cars in "pigeon holes" so in my definition of sporty-luxury cars, both of these cars are hoping you will think they are sporty (if that will get you to buy them) but to me they have luxury way too well covered. That GS was almost an isolation tank.
Howard Kerr Hi Howard, I will be the first to agree that the generation prior to this GS was far from sporty even in the V8 (GS430). It was far more a luxury car than anything else. This generation tested was a lot more playful and ‘sportier’ almost attempting to be like a S-Line on an Audi or an M pack on the BMWs. I know it seems confusing and maybe needs to be driven to understood 😆. Also thank you so much for watching! If you haven’t subscribed, do watch the channel because I’m releasing a video every week for the next 5 weeks including the LS500 vs S Class and evening reviewing the LS460! Hope to see you in the other videos :)!
I have had my eye on a 2015 GS 300 FSport with 40,000 miles on it.... I am happy with the cost and thinking this is really nothing, as far as miles, for the car. Thoughts?
Jim Gann Hi Jim! Firstly thank you so much for watching 😄! Now to answer your question, if you like it then go for it! You’ll be pleasantly surprised every day you jump in it and drive it and even look forward to it! The mileage is really low for a Lexus and quite the average for the age. Make sure it has the service history as well and everything checks out. Good luck with it mate and please let me know how you go 😄 If you like send me some photos on Instagram @serg.ss! Will be great to see it :)
I have es but l like gs
RIN Khammas They’re both so good!
Kj Jones you clearly don’t know anything about cars
Kj Jones I own a GS350 F sport, which is a higher model and better car in comparison to the ES. Do your homework before you embarrass yourself next time.
Kj Jones you really are uneducated. First of all the GS is no doubt a higher model hence the price difference and specs, go to Lexus and ask any representative to help educate you. It was always the competitor of the E class, bmw 535i, Audi A6, and Cadillac CTS. ES is a better seller, but that’s about it because it resonated with older people and idiots like you!
Kj Jones go to Lexus.com and see the line up in order of small size vehicle to their flagship including price differences. Stop embarrassing yourself and let grown people talk who actually know about vehicles.
Does anyone know the difference between these 2 and the IS (no ES in the UK, I'm buying a IS 220d so would love to know for comparison!)
Hi John, thanks so much for the question! Now over here in Australia we don’t have the diesel so I couldn’t tell you engine wise however I can say how th cars feel. The IS is on the shorter wheel base so it’s much more rigid and you feel a lot more of the road than you do in the GS (longer frame). That makes the GS a much smoother ride and more comfortable. If price and budget allows the GS is definitely the way to go! Hope this helps :)
I own a GS350 2013, And previously owned a 2007.
Awesome! Thank you so much for subscribing Freddie :D! Send me some photos on Instagram @sergcarreviews :)
There sure as hell wasn't a $30,000 Yankee dollar difference between these two cars in the USA when they were new. More like $10-15k depending on how you optioned them. And yes today used they are similar price, a similar year/miles/condition ES350 is going to be 2-4k cheaper than a GS. Just did the comparo, figured all I do is drive on the interstate and bought the ES350. Styling wise they looked almost identical in my eye, both are pretty sharp, this gen ES really did away with the fuddy duddy old lady styling of past gens IMO.
Hey Aaron! Firstly thank you so much for watching, I really appreciate it :)!
Congratulations on your new car well done mate! What year model was your one?? I’m sure you already love the car! It’s hard not to love 😄
Yeah the price difference here in Australia is ridiculous and it’s mostly just taxes which cause it to be such a massive difference, and that’s why they depreciate a lot harder.
Haha thanks so much for watching and look forward to seeing you on the next one!! It’s the 2020 GS vs 2021 IS 😄 Catch up soon!
For your use case, I think you made the smart choice.
can it run on r87 Gas or does citron on 91 octane
Hey Rory I wouldn't be able to tell you, hopefully someone reading the comments knows! Are you looking at buying one?
It needs 95 octane premium fuel.
Im a 23 that just bought a 2016 ES over a 2014 GS & I TOTALLY REGRET IT NOW I WISH I BOUGHT THE GS 😔 still a good car though
Mate congratulations! And how come??
@@SergCarReviews I love the smooth plush ride the ES gives but im use to a more sportier drive being that my previous car was a Infiniti G35. A GS350 will be my next car no matter what though. & thanks for the great video !!!
You still own a nicer car than 97% of people your age around the world
ES looks so classy to me 😍 The GS looks sporty.
Agreed!! 😄
I bought a 2020 GS350, had to have a rwd car, im a child of the sixties...hate front wheel drive
I liked your review and I do believe the GS is a better car, but I think you were a little bit biased and could’ve tried to been a little more objective.
Lol I mean I could definitely see the biased opinion wit the GS but salute to you but just like you said if you have the money for the GS go with the GS if you just trying to get a good reliable car, that still looks good then go for the ES and if you’re just going for the GS for the looks you can literally upgrade And modify es to where it looks like the GS I also doubt that all the people in these comments have both cars
Haha appreciate you watching and commenting! It’s true the bias is obvious but man a NA V6 RWD is just 😄...
Thanks again mate! Feel free to check out all my other Lexus reviews 😊😊
Did this GS350 come with the 8speed or 6speed auto transmission?
From memory this is the 8 speed 😄 Are you looking at buying one??
@@SergCarReviews Yes, currently got a 2016 Aurion, same motor as the ES350 can totally relate to how it drives like in this video, this time want a RWD car and the GS350 ticks all the boxes.
@@zraudiovlogs7044 Definitely worth it mate :D You'll love it! Let me know how you go :D If you like send me any questions on instagram - @serg.ss
Talk soon mate!
Lexus switched to an 8 speed in 2014, at least in the North American market.
GS F i am in love with
I love lexuses
But GSF damn
The best!!
My dream GS F!
❤️ my GS trey fiddy..
__ Thanks so much for watching 😄
My Baby!!!! I'm coming to get cha🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Which one are you getting?? Thank you so much for watching 😊
ES for looks, GS for RWD 👍🏾👍🏿
richiesworld1 except in snow winter areas
Unless you want to do doughnuts :D haha! Btw thank you so much for watching guys :D
Lexus gs 350 awd or f sport either one im happy
I always love a good f-sport, in the GS I’m in love with the Sports luxury for those adjustable seats!! Thank you so much for watching 😄
I have a teen and a 21 yr old they’re both impressed with my GS. Solid and quick. The infotainment system sucks.
Thanks for the heads up, would u advise to not bother and use GPS on phone?
I thought the reverse camera would be a bonus
John o oh definitely i only use my phone Waze or some app. The car is awesome though.
I just got a es350 300h and i love it
Olboync24 They’re so good!
Obviously GS is better of the two.
ES is just a restyled Camry.
I have to say even the ES drives a lot nicer than the Camry though
Avalon*
Tyler Pyle It looks like the Camry
How can an ES drive better than a Camry when both them are FRONT WHEEL DRIVE? The only definite differences I can find are interior details and Mark Levingston audio in the Lexus. Also the Avalon started off from a Camry anyway. I might as well just buy a Camry V6 leather or even a hybrid Camry. Otherwise a GS which have a completely different rear wheel drive platform, not a "tinkered" Camry platform found on both Avalon and the ES.
@@SergCarReviews Especially if you get the Ultra Luxury trim. Really no comparison to the Camry!
Love that whining V6 sound
Like it!!!👍👍👍
Thank you so much for watching 😃
Please consider test Genesis g80 vs Lexus LS.
@@nusarasun1050 Hi Nusa, will definitely try! My next video is the LS500 vs the 740Li 😄
Gs350 against Jaguar XF the best years
What were the best years for the XF?
@@SergCarReviews So Jag 2 liter Diesel or 2 variants of a 2liter Turbo petrol where not Jaguars best attempts... Well they are trying.....again and again and again. Toyota just keep doing 500K miles with regular servicing.
I want a GS.......
They're so good!
I love both
Haha it’s like that Ashdeep 😄 Thanks so much for watching by the way 😃
The smile says it all 😁
😄😂 Haha can’t hide it!! Would you pick GS too??
GS
So good! And thanks so much for watching :)!!
i DO drive the gs everyday lol i fuckin love it too
Hahhaa love it 😄!!! Have you seen the latest GS video??
It is clear Lexus is starting to go "cheap' The 2019 is 2.5 4 cylinder + battery with that eCVT that just annoys along with the cheap out on interiors . If you find a 3.5 L V6 ES ultra Luxury sports from 2017 - 2018 .. Grab it. The fuel economy is amazing as is the comfort and the Lexus 2.5 safety system. Full panoramic roof, Mark Levinson sound system. front heated and cooled seats with memory and it has a full size spare with an alloy wheel. The GS probably was the Ultimate if you can find the V8 . We appear to be going into a Boring future.. and I hate it.
How can you give an honest unbiased opinion if you're admitidely biased?
Hi David! That's a fair point you bring up! What I will say is my opinion was based on driving both cars with an open mind and was only developed after driving both cars. Something to remember when I do my reviews is that I've usually had the car for a couple of days if not weeks at a time so by the time I make my videos I have finally formed an opinion. I am not like others who prefers a badge/brand etc and hopefully you can tell from the videos. Also once an opinion is formed I feel like there will always be a bias towards it :D
Anyways hope that makes sense and hope to see you on the newer videos :D
Serg
gsall day
Makes the two of us! 🤫😄
Es is just a v6 Camry isn’t it ?
Yes and no. Its actually bigger, longer wheelbase, bigger trunk, bigger back seat. Hell of a lot more refinement in terms of ride/interior appointments/noise isolation/features if you compare 2014 Camry vs a 2014 ES.
Hi Tim, firstly thank you so much for watching 😄 hope you enjoyed it! So the engine itself is the same as the Camry V6 but as Aaron mentioned the car it self is very different and if you are comparing them would be worth to drive both. Some people can’t justify the difference but then a lot of others can. Let me know how you go :)
Thank you so much for watching Aaron 😄
They don’t have the same engine
Hey Chris! Thank you so much for watching :D So with the engines, the engine blocks themselves are the same however the GS has direct and port injection.
ES350 - 2GR-FE
GS350 - 2GR-FSE
Anyways hope this helps :)
See you on the next one!
@@SergCarReviews excellent review btw. Not some walk around talking about useless stuff like the edges and styling.
Hahah I try to be different! Although some of my new videos comparing new and old versions like the 2020 IS vs 2021 IS will go into those details :)
Look forward to seeing you on the next video 😄!!
Add another lexus is350
vkhiev I wish I could’ve! Feel free to subscribe because I’ve got plenty of IS350 videos coming out soon :)
The ES is definitely not sports luxury...
What county are you in? I know Lexus make different spec models for different countries so it just depends what country you’re in. I know I’m the US and Canada they had more features. Here in Australia that was the top of the range that you could get :) Thank you so much for watching :)
But ES350 IS NOT a sport luxury
Hey mate! Here in Australia it is! I know in different countries they have different specs. Thanks so much for watching :)